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grand mesa
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Hi David

viscid remnant
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whats up

grand mesa
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Gonna stream rogue

viscid remnant
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okay okay

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u got me interested

grand mesa
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Oh no I’m asking u lmao

viscid remnant
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ah

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well i got 0 gear and nobody 2 play with atm

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doing a bit of good olfash gold grind

grand mesa
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No one wants to see me try rogue lol. If I don’t kill on first kidney sepsis I’ll probably afk

viscid remnant
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cuz u need to play outlaw

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more fun

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because u can

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kindey

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vanish kidney

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some1

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skill

grand mesa
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Stupid lego

viscid remnant
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iam doing good ol fash callings

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and making a playlist

viscid remnant
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@grand mesa its almost complete

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just need glove and ring

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glove for 4set

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bigdam

grand mesa
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Sickkkk

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Big dam

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Started gearing second druid

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For feral/random rdruid Shit

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What do u think

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Kultiran druid?

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Or worgwn

tropic schooner
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🐮

viscid remnant
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i mean the logical is nf

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but if u want to troll id play kultiran

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igot braindmg

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not nf

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nelf

grand mesa
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Yeah ne obv bis but Fuji has inspired me to look as stupid as possible

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My druid already male nelf

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With bald head and pornstache

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I lost bet when we didn’t kill jailer Tuesday

viscid remnant
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make kultiran

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and name it

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kultyrone

tropic schooner
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thats offensive

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my male panda

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is prime dumb

obtuse bramble
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Zandalari Troll to troll

viscid remnant
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@grand mesa outlaw time

grand mesa
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Sickkk

viscid remnant
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XD

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my guy said

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hes leaving

grand mesa
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Oh no why

viscid remnant
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idk

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he got a life

grand mesa
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Traj

viscid remnant
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idk if u saw

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that game against hunter

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was heroic

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i understand how u play outlaw now

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u blast blind on cd

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its broken

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icant

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ye idk not going to lfg

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ill play later

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need to eat

grand mesa
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Kk

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I saw only the rogue mage. Was working 🫠

signal arrow
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Bro I queued 3 2's games

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3 times rogue mage

lime light
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I can log in a bit

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Davider

safe heart
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Last night I did 3s and played dk 11 out 12 games and I think 9 or 10 of those weree demo dk

lime light
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Yup

viscid remnant
signal arrow
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up to 7 games now, 6 had a rogue in them triggered

grand mesa
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Rogues everywhere

signal arrow
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Do you usually win rogue/ mage?

grand mesa
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Yup

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Uhh yeah recently

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We historically didn’t

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But I think we figured it out some

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Idk how well it would work against really good rogue mage tho that actually separate bomb/duel

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Atleast at 22-2300 they tend to bomb combust opener which is easy trinket nether

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Then I’m draught and just beat the shit out of the rogue

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We lost a lot on second combust but I just avoid the db at all costs on 3rd kidney/second combust

grand mesa
signal arrow
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Do you go rogue or mage?

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My dh usually goes mage but maybe rogue is better target

grand mesa
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We try to go rogue but sometimes the mage just accidentally takes gross dam

viscid remnant
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i think the only way u win with dh

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if he outskills the rogue

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and pre blur/dark every go

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XD

grand mesa
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Yeah that’s what we do too

signal arrow
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Yeah that makes sense

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I mean it's dumpster CR anyways just wanted to help my dh mate get the transmog set from 1800 with my low rated ally
druid

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but rogue / mage have been giving us trouble

grand mesa
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I tell him to blur sometimes when his stun dr is off and I got a weird Frelimo in my gibblets

signal arrow
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Mainly because he doesn't pre blur the stuns

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so I need to be on top of my game

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so he doesn't die

grand mesa
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Rogue mage is so bad as dh rdru

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It’s actually cursed

grand mesa
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I’ve made flow charts on paint on how I think we should CD trade

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Hahahahaha

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Lmaao

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honestly one game I got a restealth with shadowmeld

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and I was like " ok I just sit here until your trinket is back up"

grand mesa
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You’re playing feral aff?

signal arrow
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XDDDD

signal arrow
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so a swap on me could be deadly

viscid remnant
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rogue mage is cursed on every comp

grand mesa
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As long as you have trinket tranq ur safe. I also make him blow his trinket nether first so it delays swap to me

viscid remnant
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cuz its rogue mage

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but priest prob bis cuz u can actually kill the mage with it

grand mesa
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But like feral aff is huge imo. Match his re with yours and rake him out

viscid remnant
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ye but if they swap on u

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its over

signal arrow
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and I like to incap roar rogue out when I walk through him in stealth

grand mesa
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Only reason why I think I’d like bear aff is incapping duel

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But idk if that’s worth losing feral aff for me

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Last night I put up a full row of dots + swarm on mage and he went from like 40% to caut to pod while DH was in stun bomb lmao

signal arrow
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Lmao

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but you're actually playing draught?

grand mesa
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Yeah

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You don’t need throughput healing u know

signal arrow
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I think if I didn't extend Cenarion ward my dh would die a lot more XD

grand mesa
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Not like ur fighting fury warrior

signal arrow
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Yeah but you can pre extend

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hots before stun

grand mesa
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I guess but flourish can do the same

signal arrow
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True

grand mesa
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Dh rdru is strong but it gets hard fucked by some shit for sure 😂

signal arrow
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Most annoying is probably SV hunter

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Atleast for me

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I hate the matches where I run around the pillar all game

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Feels so dumb

grand mesa
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I love those games lmao

signal arrow
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idk I always feel so stupid doing it

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but it's the best strategy

grand mesa
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Yeah I think most games if the sv hunter goes you it’s a win

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If you got a good pillar

signal arrow
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Yeah it's not an unwinable matchup in any way

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it's just very annoying XD

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I hate it when people pillar me

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so I feel dumb doing it to them too

grand mesa
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I think we get away with dumb shit against rogue mage cause the dh just accidentally shit out so much damage. Just like connects for a few seconds before frost nova or sheep and then the mage has to block hahahaha

signal arrow
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Yeeep XD

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bro one game we played DH / Disc with our DH / Rdruid

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And I swear

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the dh had no fun that game

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My dh just went disc all game and the other dh went for me

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and I just pillared him all game

grand mesa
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Dude. I don’t think there’s many rdruids

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Dps forget how to play against Druids

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I haven’t seen reverse magic or the fury root break in a while

signal arrow
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trueee he didn't run reverse

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now that I think about it

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But it's the best thing ever when you Root - root - root - Cyclone - Cyclone - Vortex him and then you run LOS and he's like " damn bro are you serious?"

grand mesa
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I fucking love watching DHs sit there in roots

signal arrow
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Same haha

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but Imprison range is same as cyclone right? vs good DH's it's not so easy

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if you root him and try to cyclone off he imprisons you

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and then can connect again

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Lucky we played on low CR lol

grand mesa
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I can’t wait for DF where we’ll be further from range and running around pillars even more

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Imagine if we had natures vigil now lol

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U flourish hots it’s the same pressure as earth ele lego 😂

signal arrow
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I remember there was some change to natures vigil

grand mesa
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It was converted to healing originally. Then changed to convert to damage

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It was 20% damage or 40% healing converted to healing or something. Now healing converts to damage

signal arrow
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Ahh I see

clear pulsar
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Yeah its the opposite of what your role does

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Damage for resto

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Heal for other specs

stray sigil
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noob

grand mesa
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Hi Fuji

viscid remnant
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hi

stray sigil
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hello

grand mesa
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I don’t think I have any arena over the weekend 🥲

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Guess I just farm mounts

stray sigil
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u only q with ur dh ?

grand mesa
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Ya

viscid remnant
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q with feji

grand mesa
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Idk if Fuji would want to play with me hahaha

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He watched some 2s last night

viscid remnant
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idk

clear pulsar
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Feji is washed

stray sigil
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washed fuji 600 cr higher than face everytime

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true or true

clear pulsar
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True

grand mesa
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Face I’ll play with your necro MM

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😂😂😂😂

viscid remnant
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but feji is a feral 1trick

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unluck

stray sigil
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wrong ill have u know i have 2.2 xp on ret and ww

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ggez

viscid remnant
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legendary

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go ww rdr

stray sigil
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was like 4 years ago for ret

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ww i havent touched in months

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i prob suck cock agane

viscid remnant
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i feel u

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havent touched rdru in months and played today

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it was so awful

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but after like 5 games i got into it

grand mesa
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Haven’t touched my holy priest in months

stray sigil
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mayb i q it today

grand mesa
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Stream

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While I farm mounts

stray sigil
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i have a meeting in 30mins maybe ill stream after

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if obs doesnt make me drop frames

haughty compass
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Path of ascension purple xmog is a pain in the ass to farm

grand mesa
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I haven’t even started yet…

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Finishing up necro/tea party first

stray sigil
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true i have to do tea party for rep thsi week

grand mesa
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How long has it been taking u pykan

clear pulsar
stray sigil
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he said mm

haughty compass
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I mean I guess it’s not as bad time-wise as the tea party

stray sigil
haughty compass
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But it’s a grind and the fights aren’t exactly easy

stray sigil
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bruh the rep for tea party is so garbage

haughty compass
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Yea it takes forever

stray sigil
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its like 800 or something a week

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atleast necro was like

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a lot of rep when u had a ton of constructs

haughty compass
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I did until I got the toys from it and now I cba

stray sigil
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its the only not full bar

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and its yellow

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it needs to be done

grand mesa
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^

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I need to go back and do MOP farm. I was best friends on paladin and mage not my druid 🫠

stray sigil
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i just finished mop yesterday

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everything but black prince

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best friends with all the tillers

viscid remnant
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thats so weird

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u do those

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roleplayer things

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TEA PARTY

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bruh

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go q some pvp

grand mesa
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HE IS A FELLOW BAR FILLER

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I RESPECT

viscid remnant
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fellow psycho

stray sigil
lime light
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I log or not @viscid remnant

viscid remnant
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Iam afk abit going to workout

signal arrow
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I am starting to get so tilted by fury warrior

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I have no idea how to win against that fking class with unholy dk in 2v2

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He just trains the unholy DK all game with fking 40% healreduce

stray sigil
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can the dk not kite out the stacks ?

signal arrow
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No because of Conquerors banner

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He can't be slowed

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during banner

stray sigil
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ya but theres no way u just lose instantly on banner

viscid remnant
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u cant win

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its hardcounter

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if warr has more than 1 braincell

stray sigil
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how long do i sit in lfg today

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u think

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100% lose

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usually third

stray sigil
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i wonder what wins out

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banner vs limb

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if they both go mustar dd into it

signal arrow
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Eh the issue is just

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the dmg is about the same

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between DK and fury

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but Fury has fking 40% heal reduce on 100% uptime

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So I need to heal like 40% more to keep my dps alive compared to how much the enemy has to heal

grand mesa
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Death strike gets fucked too

signal arrow
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Yep

grand mesa
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Yeah I never thought about that tbh

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Dh has no problem getting away for a bit and clearing stacks or nether

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Dk kinda fucked huh

signal arrow
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The matchup is very rough

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I think we won like 2 games out of 10

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And those were only wins cause the furys had no hands

stray sigil
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r u playing cat or bear aff into it

livid wasp
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hi

lime light
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u will never win vs a furry warrior

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as a dk

livid wasp
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vulpera warrior?

lime light
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yup

misty shuttle
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folks is there a way to use a ground target ability or trinket on yourself?

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instead of where the mouse is?

viscid remnant
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i think u ned to make a macro

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with cast @proud ledge

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not sure if it works with everything

misty shuttle
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that worked

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ty

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❤️

viscid remnant
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👍

stone breach
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poor @proud ledge

tropic schooner
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they deserve all the pings

clear pulsar
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Rude

wise valley
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Hello friends

viscid remnant
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👋

livid wasp
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so dreadful cant even get back to 2.1k anymore

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no inflation at all

viscid remnant
grand mesa
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1 more week zechey

livid wasp
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nah I dont believe in that anymore

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unless I spend 500 euros on a boost

viscid remnant
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2much

livid wasp
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3.2k ele locks

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at 2k mmr

signal arrow
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oof that's rough

livid wasp
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im streaming if someone wants to watch this clown fiesta

grand mesa
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whats twitch

signal arrow
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I've had enough pvp for today XD got super tilted getting my dk guild mate to 1800 but we did it

safe parcel
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Hi guys, what do you do against assassin rogues as a resto druid? I seem to die within 2 seconds

stray sigil
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You legit commit everything if he vendetta sepsis

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Except tranq

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And then you have it back up for next vendetta sepsis

stray sigil
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if he plays short vendetta

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His dmg outside of that window is kinda low

stray sigil
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u wont have trinket up for next one

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fyi

signal arrow
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That is true your dps has to cover you there

safe parcel
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whats the cd on sepsis vendetta

stray sigil
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90s

grand mesa
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Sepsis is 1.5 when dispelled goes down to 30s

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Err

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60s

stray sigil
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vendetta can like

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go down to 1:30 very easliy

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if he has good uptime

viscid remnant
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basically u trinket once and next u die tettleslul

stray sigil
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so if u panic and both trinket

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u die

signal arrow
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He won't get vendetta below 1 min so if you rotate trinkets and your dps has any way to save you on their go it's ok

stray sigil
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no matter what

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to the next sepsis

signal arrow
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Yeah for sure you can't both trinket

stray sigil
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even if u dont its a tight window

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and if ur partner has no dispell for u

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kinda over anyways

grand mesa
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I trinket dispel first and if he goes me again it’s trinket darkness by DH

stray sigil
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very sick design imo

grand mesa
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Then trinket back up for third

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Then I die 4th

viscid remnant
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cant u get

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vendetta below 1 min

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with perfect uptime

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and nf priest

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I mean I guess technically it's possible but I haven't seen it in a game

viscid remnant
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iam notsure though

signal arrow
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Ever

stray sigil
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maybe vs uhdk/demo with ruptures on everything and all that shit

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with nf priest

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for sure

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1min

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easy

grand mesa
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I haven’t seen vendettas that fast imo

signal arrow
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I mean with NF priest maybe

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but you also should not give the rogue 100% uptime

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like you drag him LOS of his healer

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if he still goes you he is in trouble

viscid remnant
stray sigil
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i mean for most classes thats not very possible

viscid remnant
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u trinket smokeyb die in duel

stray sigil
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perma slowed all game

viscid remnant
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trinket duel die smokeyb

stray sigil
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auto applied

viscid remnant
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its braindmg

stray sigil
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ye

signal arrow
stray sigil
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flag sub is also dumb

signal arrow
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Should be possible ^^

viscid remnant
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they dont even need flag to 1shot in duel

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kyrian fine enough

signal arrow
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I haven't seen anyone play flag since forever

viscid remnant
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ye its a ded cov

signal arrow
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sub and outlaw are kyrian and Ass is NF

stray sigil
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flag is for 2s carries

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with shitters

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Fair XD

stray sigil
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force any trinket

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send the flag duel

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gg

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lul

signal arrow
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Yep

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The most tilting losses are those where you kill the mage but your dps commited trinket for it and then he just dies in the duel and you are stuck in the 1v1 against the rogue

stray sigil
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u 2.4 yet

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i wanna know if i bother pushing

signal arrow
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Me?

stray sigil
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how big is conduit at 278

signal arrow
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It's barely an upgrade tbh

stray sigil
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ok nvm i go mordor and pla yfro fun

signal arrow
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I think my adaptive swarm did like 0.5% more hots

grand mesa
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278 not worth

signal arrow
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like 0.5% more effectiveness or something

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And 1% CDR on natures swiftness

grand mesa
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And new season coming out next week or two anyway

signal arrow
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kinda useless

grand mesa
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With new condi levels anyway

signal arrow
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But honestly I hit 3k M+ score before I hit 2400 from PvP

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so I got the conduit upgrades from M+ anyways

grand mesa
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Yeah same lmao

stray sigil
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well i came back to feral like a month left into ssn

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2*

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got banned for 1 month

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couldnt get eitehr

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kekw

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kekW

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unlucky

stray sigil
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this game is super ded too

signal arrow
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I'm only a 2's andy anyways I barely play 3's if I do it's only with friends for fun

stray sigil
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theres nobody in lfg

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ye i dont have those unfort

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grand mesa
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Unironically Start raiding 😂

signal arrow
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Yeah I mostly play pvp with guild mates I raid with

grand mesa
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That’s honestly why I do it. Bigger social circle and u find folks interested for keys and arena that u know aren’t weirdos

signal arrow
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but most of them have no idea about PvP XD

grand mesa
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My DH is my raid lead lmao

signal arrow
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I think the highest rated player besides me is like 1600

signal arrow
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my guild is like full PvE players

stray sigil
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i dont have the patience for raiding

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They only ask me to get them to 1800 for the transmog set

grand mesa
stray sigil
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do i send the kt human today

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XD

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XD

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good one

signal arrow
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you need the Mario Transmog

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that Xaryu was using

viscid remnant
stray sigil
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kt human is close looking to dwarf

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tall dwarf

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maybe its worth

grand mesa
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Fuji I’m doing KT human today

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On alt druid

stray sigil
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ok fine ill do it too

grand mesa
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I want to show belly

stray sigil
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no other choice

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they have nice mustaches

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can prob do a nice eggman

grand mesa
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Trueeee

livid wasp
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haha

signal arrow
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Like you swiftmend extend Cenarion ward

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go behind pillar

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Shadowmeld drink

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and your dps is giga safe

grand mesa
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I love it it’s so good yea

stray sigil
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i sweear meld

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bugs so many times for me

grand mesa
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I see he’s got trinket nether and I go extended CW

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Drink time

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Thag druid you said was a doucjr Fuji

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Last night

stray sigil
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ye

grand mesa
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Cloned himself out of all of his mana

stray sigil
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wdym

grand mesa
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He was at like 5k mana when I had 30k when neither of us drank

stray sigil
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oh

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lol

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he was pressing too much ?

signal arrow
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It's so funny to me when the enemy druid goes for a clone when his dps has no pressure

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like "thanks for wasting your mana"

grand mesa
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Yeah if you get too cute with cloning and rooting like crazy

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U oom yourself without even realizing it

signal arrow
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But Mistweaver monk mana is actually disgusting

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Like I go to drink full from 50% and he still outmanas me

grand mesa
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The dh always panics about that and I’m like bro just hit him

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Then he dies

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Idk

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stray sigil
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drinks barely matter in 2s

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damp gets so high so fast

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like grats u can heal for 2k

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? ??

signal arrow
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With SV hunter / Rdruid for example we usually won as long as I had mana

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because eventually the SV hunter just has too much pressure

grand mesa
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Sv pressure is kinda nuts

signal arrow
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Yep same as BM

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but DH has a lot of pressure too

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just easier to get kited out

grand mesa
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My dh whines too much about uptime

haughty compass
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A good DH is a giant headache

signal arrow
grand mesa
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Pver melees are the worst

signal arrow
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Trueee XD

grand mesa
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They lose 1s of uptime they lose their minds

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In arena

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Yep same with the DK I played with

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he was so mad whenever they pillared him

grand mesa
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I’m sure u noticed that carrying your raider friends

signal arrow
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Yeah haha

viscid remnant
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dhs its just the worst

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i play with a dh he gets steel trapped against hunter

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he malds harder than ev

signal arrow
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XDDDD but to be fair steel trap is so annoying

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it's the only long root in the game that is not dispellable

viscid remnant
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ye its stupid

grand mesa
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We hate steel trap

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And diamond ice

signal arrow
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Yeah but tbh when I played sv / Rdruid vs DH / Rdruid

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even though the dh was like in cc 50% of the time

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he did same dmg as the survival with the remaining 50% uptime

grand mesa
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Dh does more dam with less uptime for sure

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Zechey got abom limbed oof

signal arrow
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I think the difference between a good dh and a bad DH is also massive like how they use their mobility to reconnect and their cc to reconnect

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Like I can immediately tell if the enemy dh is bad just looking at the way he uses his fel rush and stuns

grand mesa
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I just check to see if they have reverse 😂

signal arrow
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Hahaha yeah that too

grand mesa
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Haha you know that 1-2 GCD wait

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Where u mass entangle

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Then u pause like

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Does he have it???

signal arrow
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XDDD

grand mesa
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HE DOESNT HAVE IT WE WIN

signal arrow
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Tbh I don't even run mass entangle though I only run it vs Windwalkers

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I play bash into everything else

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Because if he is in meta I like to do bash -> clone but if you do mass entangle -> clone he can imprison you on the clone cast right?

grand mesa
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Ya

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Sometimes I don’t even clone. I just leave lmao. Find another pillar

signal arrow
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Haha fair

grand mesa
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Cause like if u bash you still have to be within 20yd for the clone cast then run out. If he trinkets it for some reason you didn’t get very far. Mass entangle is like 30 yard range and I just get further away lol. That 1 min timer on bash feels like forever too sometimes when a dh is riding ur nuts. Atleast for me

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I tried bash a lot when they ran reverse like crazy

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I bait reverse with dumb shit all the time

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Only to root then behind a pillar and lol away

grand mesa
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Just ended up preferring ME more I think

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But if they trinket offensively then you can atleast maybe get a kill window during a stun

grand mesa
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My DH always makes it a healer race lmao

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He’s chasing some guy around a pillar. The dh is chasing me around a diff pillar

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If I play with my dh mate it's the same

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But I also tell him to go healer because I'm confident I live longer than the enemy on 1800 CR xD

grand mesa
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Root?

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Xd

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Lmao

viscid remnant
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What else can u do

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Hibernate his healer

grand mesa
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That’s what I was wondering lol

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grand mesa
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Haha I love hibernating feral Druids

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grand mesa
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Even if they shift out u know they’re annoyed

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Today a shaman really surprised me

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I bash his dps, in bear form and he starts casting hex on me

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so I can't shift out for the clone

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I was like damn that's big brain

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Just had to wait out the cast in bear and I was like damn that was annoying

grand mesa
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Oh that’s clever

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But I mean he probably could have also sheared it haha

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True hahaha

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Dunno if he had shear up I don't remember

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haha I love being 2k

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Imma watch some zechey before I go to sleep now blobthumbsup

livid wasp
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stopped already

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Oh you ended stream I see

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like last game was some rogue who was an alt of some 2.6k cr main rogue

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90% of games are like that

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Oof yeah I also faced some pretty good players when I was playing with guildies today

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I think people just don't start to pvp that late into the season so it's mostly high rated people on alts

livid wasp
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no inflation at all idk

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last season you could 1v3 at 2k mmr

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at last week

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pretty true

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Best time to q. I learn a ton playing the big gamers

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Also very true

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“Oh just do damage”

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Lol

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When I first climbed in 2's and I was facing the big guys was when I learned a lot

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@haughty compass you still didn't elaborate what you bait reverse with 👀 me and @grand mesa are curious

stray sigil
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Pointless roots mostly

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Are you feral? O.o

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On my hunter I trap too, and they always reverse the first one

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I am feral yes. I dabble with moonkin too

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not being ferAl

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Resto Is the only Druid spec I don’t enjoy

stray sigil
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feral atleast has instant root

stray sigil
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Feral always my number 1. But I like moonkin too 🤷‍♂️

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I would love to just try out feral for fun

stray sigil
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boomie is lame

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nop

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But I'd play against some really sweaty gamers at my rating and get destroyed

stray sigil
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ferals not bad 2s

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It’s gotten pretty lame yea

stray sigil
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def have ti work a bit more than most classes

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But with starburst, and spread pressure it’s kinda fun

stray sigil
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but its not bad

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i would only play boomy

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for rbgs

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2s feral is only fun with another dps

viscid remnant
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boomy is lame

stray sigil
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just to press starfall

viscid remnant
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feral too complicated for my pepega brain

stray sigil
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an do nothing

viscid remnant
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guardian is ...

stray sigil
viscid remnant
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rdru afk healing

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What is pepega

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<— boomer

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LOL

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Hahahahaha

stray sigil
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its david irl

haughty compass
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I’m loling

viscid remnant
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iam sure that is a good explaination

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That gif is too funny

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Honestly probably is for me too, but I’ve played it so long I can’t play anything else

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i mean tbh i could probably play it but idk im too healerbrain

stray sigil
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nop u couldjnt

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if i play outlaw

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its the same shit as feral

stray sigil
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feral is far too complicated for ur tiny brain

viscid remnant
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tbh

stray sigil
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wtf

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no shot

viscid remnant
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ye instead of rip

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u press snd

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wow

stray sigil
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u think outlaw is hard ????

viscid remnant
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big diff

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I loved playing windwalker but I'm too dumb with that 1 minute crit chance legendary

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Me press xuen me do big dmg is about the level of mental capacity I can afford when playing dps

stray sigil
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keefers took a sec for me

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but now its kinda normal

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I’m gonna play large brain dragon in DF. First reroll. I’ve been Druid since 2004

stray sigil
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ive seen clips of duel

haughty compass
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Aka when Fuji was an infant

stray sigil
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that class looks not fun

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looks like they do nothing

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Unless they really change feral tree

stray sigil
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not only feral

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druid tree to

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imo

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could use some improvs

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Druid tree not bad tbh

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Comparatively

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look at the diagonals

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its so dogshit

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Have you seen the shaman tree? 👀

stray sigil
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compared to the other trees

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so many things not connected

haughty compass
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My Druid dies In the shadowlands

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Fuji is right

haughty compass
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Shaman is insane

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Other classes have so much more choices

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SP is insane

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Rogue

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Hunter even

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druid was the first tree

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andf it shows

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I'm still gonna be a druid main unless the class is unplayably bad

haughty compass
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Wait til mage tree... arcane mages gonna have more than 1 school and be op watch

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But I'm still a bit disappointed

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Bet

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i definitely think they will fix up the tree or i'll prob have to switch to rogue for pve, but i doubt it stays this ass for feral

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mages already fucking qqing

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about 43s db

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lmfao

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so cringe

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i was watching xaryu cry about it

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and his sheep chat

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mages are the main characters of wow and ive come to terms w ith that

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I can’t stand that dude

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And I like everyone

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i dont mind him but when it comes to mages

viscid remnant
stray sigil
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he is 10000% biaed

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yea

stray sigil
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and not 23

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Nice

stray sigil
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as it is now

edgy shale
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rogue is nuts too

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But they get shifting power right?

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Is mage tree out?

viscid remnant
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But ye druid talents look so bad compared to sham

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So realistically it's less?

haughty compass
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It’s not right

stray sigil
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idk if itll be on the tree

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or if theyll take it

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and no the tree not out

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ah alright

stray sigil
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prob warrior/mage next

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I’d play arcane tbh. Numbingg is so sick

stray sigil
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id assume

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so they changed it baseline to longer CD

stray sigil
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with all the datamining

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aparently an instant aoe cc on 23s cd was not balanced

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Who would have thought

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mages

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stray sigil
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rogues

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priests

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prob

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Xarbad wants

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Stun

stray sigil
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prob looked fien to them

viscid remnant
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For mage

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They already changed so much about the hunter tree

stray sigil
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yeah he wants

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I’m sad

stray sigil
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deep freeze

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for fire mage

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rn

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LOL

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? ? ?

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XD

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LOL

viscid remnant
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He has braindmg

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Ok dude

stray sigil
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lets just give a stun to fire mage atm

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what could go wrong

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they could DR their rogues kidney GG

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Mage lock wins everything

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also

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they need to gut combustion

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to how it was before

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that spec never gonna be ok with it like that

edgy shale
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before when? hasn't that ability had like 20 iterations

stray sigil
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the dot one

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i bet theyll have cdr in their tree to

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for combust

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where u make a massive ignite or whatever? that was busted in pve, and we all know that the idea of balancin both modes at once makes blizz head explode

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kinda cringe

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was the aoe dot yes

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was in what like cata/mop i think

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maybeon ly cata

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isnt fire mage good in pve anyways

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always has been

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I'm pretty sure mage will keep shifting power for DF it's the most iconic covenant ability I think

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oh, that version. Yea that shit was fun as hell in BGs. uhh fire mage was acutally p ass at the start of this tier, but mages cried so much they got buffed into a top spec

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so yea p much fuji lol

viscid remnant
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Need to gut cdr mechanics across the board tbh its stupid

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Mirrors of torment probably gone

stray sigil
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in cataclysmic ssn

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that was hella op for casters

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i fucking remember spicy chciek/fire godcomp

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being everywhere

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and that trinket was so cringe

edgy shale
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was like vial

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but for caster

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vial was like a rogue only thing too

edgy shale
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i kinda remember?

stray sigil
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its from dragon soul

edgy shale
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oh yea

haughty compass
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Fuji talking cata. Bro you were what? 13? Lol

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LOL

stray sigil
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ye i was 13 or 14

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i remember i wanted to be a boomy so bad cuz i wanted this trinket to crank in bgs lol

haughty compass
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My rbg team was the first rbg team to use the smoke bomb solar beam strat in wsg

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We were top of the ladder

stray sigil
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idk anything about actual stuff from cata

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was too young

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Season 1 cata. Never lost strand or wsg

stray sigil
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i just remember watching streams

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sodas and mitch i think

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reckful

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and saw those trinkets

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That was my peak, just washed up since then

stray sigil
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bro strand

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was kinda fun

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no cap

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Was a strand master

stray sigil
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but i was a mustar dd beach fighter

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Cata was 11 years ago? Damn man you guys have been playing forever meanwhile I started BfA VerySadCat

stray sigil
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i mean i "played"

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i was casual player until notorious bfa

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lol

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First tier I was grey parsing heroic tettleslul

haughty compass
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Go to 6:53. My potato computer

viscid remnant
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But starting in bfa sounds tragic

haughty compass
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Doing a strand tank defense

stray sigil
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FERAL CHARGE

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BASH

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CLONE

viscid remnant
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But legion was so good i wish i could go back to legion

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Iwas playing

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viscid remnant
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12hr a day+ every day

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Had 2% vers tettleslul

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And I was so confused how I'm dying so fast lmao

signal arrow
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Or raid and M+ too?

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My buddy made that video

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Pretty good back then

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My brain would shut down if I did 12+ hours of PvP

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That was 100th win too

stray sigil
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wtf

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were u not playing

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skin glyph

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ni wotlk

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? ? ?

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u mad lad

haughty compass
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I have no idea

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I just know I played with like 250 ping and was like a 2300 player

stray sigil
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i was drooling eating my glue sticks laying dk in wotlk

haughty compass
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Neat little montage in that video somewhere

viscid remnant
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But itwas fun

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Mainly m+ and like

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Trying to unlock artifact appearences

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For every spec

stray sigil
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LOL

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DAVID DIRTY PVER

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LOL

viscid remnant
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On a lot of classes

stray sigil
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PVER

viscid remnant
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Ye

stray sigil
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PVER

viscid remnant
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Iwas a pver

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viscid remnant
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I really liked collecting artifact appearences

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It was just cool

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Made alot of alts

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Understandable bro they look cool AF

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I still have the Rdruid artifact staff transmogged

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On all my Druids

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(mainly cause I don't have Scythe from Aggramar) VerySadCat

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I think i did magetower on 10ish different specs

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I wish I played in legion

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Some of those mage tower transmogs look so cool

viscid remnant
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Ye

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Also idk i remember i grinded neltharians lair to get outlaw artifact that is high res thunderfury

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By doing some sketcy skip

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Was just fun idk

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How in tarnation does resto Druid survive in pvp?!

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Thats why bfa was so awful to me i quit like a month after it started untill season 4

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Lol Fuji muted

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Rekt

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wise valley
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@stray sigil wtf

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Any specific matchup or just in general?

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@stray sigil if u say nothing that means iam better than u at feral (real and true)

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Say nothing if we are gonna q bm jungle tonight

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Sick.

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safe heart
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Pve healing is not like pvp healing

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I wanna make the switch but I’m not sure where to begin and Improve I assume throw a couple hots then kite and cc?

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Also do u have versa gear and playing correct talents etc

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Never gotten above 1600s tbg but I’ve played others classes like faceroll dh and hpal to mid 16s. But with Druid not even 1k. But it’s so demoralizing getting clapped that find myself rage quitting vers around 18% right now.

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I mean it's rough with that low vers but in your rating range it should definetly still be good enough to survive atleast try to optimise your hot uptime mostly you NEVER want to get stunned with no hots up or only few hots up. Rdruid unlike other healers can keep healing while he's stunned so you have an advantage in that regard.

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Try to extend cenarion ward with swiftmend as much as you can

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And run like a madman around the pillar

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Thanks, should I focus on arena macros? How do I improve awareness? What do I look at lol?

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Would have to look at gameplay footage to give advice that better fits your situation if you are on eu we can do some games tomorrow or something I can log on my unholy dk

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It's easier to give advice when I see what you're doing

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Awareness comes with experience and I can recommend the addon "GladiatorLossa"

shut wedge
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Yeah true makes sense, well I’ll keep a lookout for more advice here but I appreciate what you’ve answered so far

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It's a robot voice that calls out enemy CD's being committed

shut wedge
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I’ll download that now for sure

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Like if an assa rogue uses vendetta the voice will say "Vendetta" etc. it can be overwhelming at first especially if you don't know what all the abilities do

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But in the long run it's really helpful

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And definetly get an addon to track diminishing returns if you don't have it

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Like Sarena or Gladius

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for example you see there is 2 seconds of diminishing return on the enemy for a stun then it's usually best to wait out those 2 seconds and stun after so you get the full duration stun in.

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Oh and maybe post a screenshot of your talents too👀 maybe you're not playing with optimal talents they differ a bit from PvE

viscid remnant
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Id also recommend bigdebuffs

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And deminish

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To track dr on urself

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And also make ur ui not cluttered

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Yeah big debuffs is great too

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It just had some bugs a while back but I think all is fixed now

viscid remnant
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Never had an issue with it

signal arrow
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Beginning of the season the addon was completely bugged just not showing debuffs at all 😅 but yeah haven't had an issues since it got fixed

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Was especially frustrating in M+

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People were yelling for dispells and I'm like "Lol I can't see the debuffs"

viscid remnant
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I havent done a key higher than 10 since bfa

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Wouldnt knoe

haughty compass
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Hunters have a bunch of changes to their talents already 😠

viscid remnant
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Good or bad

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shut wedge
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Cause then I could understand why you feel squishy

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I just figured naturally I’m comfortable w/ the class do pretty well in raids and M+ but when I jump into arena I’m like a new born giraffe trying to find its legs.

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It’s incredibly frustrating but I want to improve, I feel I’ll have to stop doing everything else in wow and strictly focus on pvp matches and pvp accessories lol

safe heart
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If you're using mouse over heals, that's bad too

shut wedge
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I use vuhdo am I a scrub? xD

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I'm using mouseover heals too it's very doable even at 2400+

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But I don't use Vuhdo

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But that is not what's holding you back for sure (not at that rating range anyways)

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It's mostly optimising hot uptime and kiting / using CC correctly

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Yeah I just bring it up because it's a good habit to break early while he's learning

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That's true

viscid remnant
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Mouseover 💀

safe heart
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The biggest thing is to realize your positioning is monumentally important as a healer, you need to have awareness of what enemy kill conditions are

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And as the healer you're the one they want to lock out

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Also doing damage as a healer is no where near as important in pvp as it in keys so don't try too hard to pump

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Playing too aggressively will almost always get you killed or worse , cc'd

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Arena123 clone bro

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I guess ^^ but cba getting 3 new binds for every cc

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It's working for me as is

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Not a rank 1 player and I don't aspire to be I'm happy getting to Elite blobthumbsup

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It'll change ur gameplay hundo p
Everyone I know who resisted it (including myself) wouldn't go back

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But it's an optimization , not required

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Bro there is a rank 1 mage who clicks all his abilities 💀

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After I heard about that I was like cba optimising my binds if that guy can do it with clicking

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This is no troll but

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If he's playing rmp, I could see that

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Hahahaha

safe heart
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Like I'm not kidding

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If he's playing anything else , sounds sus

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His name is watchmeclick or something

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Imean u do u

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Id just hate moving my mouse that much

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Ye thats understandable i guess

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Idk about ur bind situation but cc for 123 rly changed the game for me

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On any class

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Its too good

stone breach
viscid remnant
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I used to use focus but its too annoying cuz it randomly disappears when ppl stealth etc

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It's an addon that saves your action bars

stone breach
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sure, I more mean the mental relearning

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Oh I see

stone breach
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the actual moving them isn't so bad, takes like a minute

signal arrow
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I have almost the same binds for PvE and PvP even though I don't use most of them in PvE only difference ofc is covenant spells since in raid you play NF and in PvP necro

stone breach
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I have to make space for my arena1/2/3 binds

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and I also keep a few of my pvp binds taking up good real estate in pve

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clearform

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Zxc
123

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True or true

viscid remnant
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Uh

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No

stray sigil
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dont need 123

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i dont use that shit

stone breach
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arena1/2/3 cyclone is lifechanging

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Fuji not muted anymore wuuut

viscid remnant
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Cuz u an ape 2s main

stray sigil
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na even when i played 3s

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i have fast hands

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dotn need 123

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I don't 123 kick tho

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I just kick and focus kick

stray sigil
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i could sue 123

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but i like focus

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for duels/wpvp shit back i nthe day

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so i never bothered

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It's not like blind on rogue

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Where you press it and it instantly does stuff

stray sigil
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only reason clone 123 is good

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is cuz hunter feign or meld

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takes a bit less time

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True

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That's fair