resto

[thorn plover]

Don't need it for any bosses

42c in may someone kill me

[balmy spire]

where do you live wtf

afrika?

[spark river]

Canada is one hell of a climate

[weary trail]

Hellya, we got all the biomes, including the death biome where it’s just endless miles of blazing infernos

Aka my backyard

[stable verge]

What in the world

Better have cheetah skin to handle that shit that early on

[thorn plover]

Fucking northern Canada. What is this

This isn't what I signed up for

[kind star]

its 21c here today in montreal area

[lyric surge]

We're coming to join you!

[solar hollow]

anyone know why so many top rdruids in mythic+ prefer eclipse espadrilles?
https://murlok.io/druid/restoration/m+

[haughty ibex]

cuz it sims better for them ig

i mean there is no other way to tell wat ur char needs so

[thorn plover]

Because it's farmable

Most people arent gonna spend a milly on a pair of boots

[solar hollow]

yea but they prefer those boots over the haste/maserty crafted boots. In fact, if they arent using those, theyre using haste/vers boe or haste/vers crafted boots

[kind star]

and those boots are on the wowhead 'bis list' most ppl prolly just using that blindly without using qelive/topgear

[solar hollow]

qelive has the haste/masery crafted boots as the top performing (excluding voidspire boe)

[haughty ibex]

simlist is not real and u shouldnt base ur conclusions off that

is either boes or m+ boots

if someone has myth boots why would they craft for haste mastery instead of haste versa

[kind star]

yeah 100% but most ppl dont think about that

[haughty ibex]

i mean inshallah top 100 or watever thinks about that

[kind star]

oh yeah that

[solar hollow]

so top rdruids are valuing the 4 ilvls on 6/6 mythic espadrlles over having more optimal secondary stats from crafted 285s? Top rdruids btw prefer vers/haste over haste mastery on those boots anyways

is that just the sweetspot amount of vers?

[thorn plover]

Top rdruids are not thinking this much about what items they equip

[haughty ibex]

there isnt a sweetspot

[thorn plover]

They throw it on and go

[haughty ibex]

they sim and see wow this is better

[thorn plover]

Stats make very very little difference

[haughty ibex]

they get os by smth and they like wow i need more versa

[spark river]

tell that to the maisara shoulders im going to bonus roll

[thorn plover]

I crafted 🤷‍♂️

[fleet jewel]

haste/mastery >>>

[hearty coral]

I got lucky and rolled those in 2

[rustic copper]

lol

bro is living in 2024

[thorn plover]

So you're telling me that if I switch my haste mast boots to haste vers boots I'll push 22s like the "top rdruids?" Surely it's the stats letting them do that

[spark river]

You re not playing doc like the top rdruids

[rustic copper]

min maxing gear is some of the lowest hanging fruit you can get to improve

[hearty coral]

I think it's a give and take argument

[zenith fable]

Gotta play that sweet sweet hb

[hearty coral]

There's a lot of people who think changing 400 of one stat to 400 of the other will make them do 50% more damage

But at the same time gear stuff is pretty simple to deal with for the most part so it should just be done properly

Or at least things like having your weapon and trinkets ascended etc

[thorn plover]

I'm talking like, 40 stats not 400

[thorn whale]

I guess if you’re doing 15’s

[hearty coral]

I'm agreeing because even 400 for a lot of classes is not 50% when going from one to the other

[rustic copper]

50%

[viral pelican]

Hi guys does having more haste help or hurt regarding mana? More casts but also easier to stay at 12 abundance?

[hearty coral]

I've had to have this argument with someone before it's not made up lol

[rustic copper]

people need to realize 1% is a large difference

massive even

[hearty coral]

It is but when you are the same ilvl and there's a huge gap between you and someone it's not usually gear that's the issue

[thorn plover]

Sure, I'll agree with that. But look at the original argument. It's 285 haste mast vs 289 haste verse

[rustic copper]

if you're equipping 3+ crafted items long term you're an idiot

that is the wrong reply

[hearty coral]

Lol

[rustic copper]

lol

[thorn plover]

Lol

[hearty coral]

They are like tf that have to do with my abundance

[viral pelican]

Lol anyone know?

[rustic copper]

if you press the same filler spell distribution with more haste you will burn more mana, if you change what spells you are casting you will do more healing without going oom and that is how you should think of haste

[viral pelican]

Ty!

[rustic copper]

you will cast slightly more rejuvs, way more regrowths and slightly less wg

[thorn plover]

That's a lot of words to say press regrowth

[rustic copper]

and that equates to same mana more healing

[hearty coral]

Press regrowth

...

[viral pelican]

So, fill new casts with regrowth yes?

That makes mana better with more haste?

[rustic copper]

yes cast lots of regrowth

[thorn plover]

Regrowth is cheap

[viral pelican]

Nice thanks guys!

[rustic copper]

you are talking about raid yes?

[thorn plover]

There's a good chart Niko made and shares showing how cheap regrowth is 😏

[viral pelican]

Yep! I was trying it on my druid

[rustic copper]

you don't think of mana like other healers, if you never press wg and you are good with your abundance usage it is impossible to go oom

your mana bar is your wg and soul of the forest regrowth budget

[viral pelican]

By this do you mean that soul of the forest rejuv is cheaper for getting 2 extra rejuvs out for free so you have the opportunity cost of using it on regrowth for faster healing? Do you almost always use rejuv to spend sotf?

[hearty coral]

Yes and yes

[sudden rover]

does it work in pve? I have the same items for pve and pvp

can I have 3 free gems for raids basically

ah nvm it doesnt work even with the conquest enchant on it, damn

[rustic copper]

It works in pve on the 246 items

Good for super early in the season

[topaz pumice]

I'm thinking of trying a no apex build in 18's, w/ balance talents. Wondering what general consensus is on best next talents outside of apex b/c Everbloom seems weakish to me in teh current iteration. How do we feel on Regenesis vs. Reforestation?

[thorn plover]

Everbloom weak? Are we playing the same class?

[topaz pumice]

yup. does very little healing overall, most of the time I feel like I don't need it

[grand herald]

question, are you trolling?

[rustic copper]

50% lb uptime 2 sm cpm

[thorn whale]

Give it a go let us know how it goes

I believe that it’s horrible

But you lmk

[rustic copper]

I’m curious if their current build even has photo

Or if they’re just not pressing lb

[spark river]

cant play photo if you go 2x regenesis

5head

[rustic copper]

Smart

[smoky sail]

Post logs

[pine torrent]

@spark river https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/qKTxrNwkmgXGLRnQ?fight=last&type=healing
improving day by day, hope you're proud 🙂

[topaz pumice]

You clearly have some unresolved issues that I wish you luck in addressing

But if you're wondering why I think it might have a reasonable chance, it only does ~20k hps

but you have hte option of replacing it w/ cenarius

so yeah, will be less healing on bosses, but on trash packs it might be significantly better

[haughty ibex]

doc detected opinion rejected

[thorn whale]

No

I’m also wondering what you talented out of to get doc in this log you’re sending

[haughty ibex]

can u like actually send the log and not a screenshot im curious

[topaz pumice]

I haven't done any high keys with the build I was just thinking if it would ever make sense to drop Everloom for DoC and keep all your other good healing talents

Purely thinking through it

[thorn whale]

It would not

I’ll save you the trouble haha

[topaz pumice]

b/c everloom ends up only around 20k hps and most of that is overheal

and if you can retain all your other good talents, like regrowth cleave, etc.

might be worth

[haughty ibex]

lb is 3rd healing spell in all my logs idk

is like dropping wg

[topaz pumice]

Lifebloom is

but not everbloom

[oak garnet]

Meta druid talents for high keys are pretty well established.

[spark river]

Always happy to see people enjoy druid 😄

[oak garnet]

No use beating your head into the wall trying to invent new stuff

[topaz pumice]

It's fun to theory craft -- even if you get a straight sidegrade, teh mana economy would be worth

And I'm only doing 18s so not pushing meta at all

[haughty ibex]

wdym mana economy

[thorn whale]

Why do you even care about your talents then

You play Mickey Mouse keys

[haughty ibex]

do u have any mana problems playing doc

[topaz pumice]

nope

[thorn whale]

You don’t want to optimize for hard content

Then don’t

But let’s not pretend it’s good

[oak garnet]

I have never oomed in a 5 man and I play liveliness : /

[rustic copper]

post the log

[topaz pumice]

I didn't say it was, I was seeing if it could be given everbloom does not feel nearly as impactful as DoC

[thorn whale]

Everbloom mega carries your healing on all boss fights

[oak garnet]

One well timed meld drink (if even needed) on top of a few sips here and there is usually all you need the entire run

[thorn whale]

And you want to trade that for 15 seconds of dumb healing

[haughty ibex]

i think ur feelings are a bit wrong but in lower keys everything can work

[thorn plover]

hps a terrible metric to use in m+

[thorn whale]

A very situational metric

[topaz pumice]

I dont' disagree, it's extremely likely optimized talents are already what everyone runs, but that's not always the case and I was just thinking through how I might mess around and see if there is a side meta

[thorn plover]

overall hps*

[thorn whale]

You’re a free spirit Toki, I like that

[topaz pumice]

I have never ran regenesis in a key and didn't know how to compare it to something like reforestation or thriving vegetation since I had extra talent points on my non-meta, most likely over-cooked build

That was really the beginning and end of my question

[noble oasis]

hi guys, guides seem to be split on this, should i bother with embellishments at all?

[wary belfry]

uh

yes but also who is telling you not to use embellishments lol

some random vod?

[noble oasis]

icy veins bis list says to avoid the 2pc leather embellishment set

unless im misunderstanding it

[wary belfry]

bis list isnt 'equip all of these items'

frankly that page isnt very useful at all

[noble oasis]

no of course but it specifically states to avoid the embellishment set aha

i use qelive as well, just wondering if i should bother looking at crafted gear

im 285ilvl with 0 crafted gear atm

[wary belfry]

embellishments are a clear upgrade over no embellishments

you need 2 of them

[noble oasis]

alright, i assume its wrist + boots unless im filling lower ilvl slots?

[wary belfry]

no

[spark river]

The guide also recommends wearing hunt + arcanoweave or 2x arcanoweave

Stop fixating on a bis list

[noble oasis]

ya i was just a bit confused tbh considering it does recommend that + says to avoid which is why im asking

not rly fixating on the list here...

[noble oasis]

are there then specific slots for the embellishments i should be targeting or

[idle lake]

yes

your crafted slots

[noble oasis]

yes which are?

[idle lake]

the slots where you crafted an item

[wary belfry]

yea i mean its gonna depend on your gear man

[spark river]

You d want to fill out slots that are the biggest upgrade

[noble oasis]

and if none of them are?

[idle lake]

you have optimal stats on every item at max ilvl?

[noble oasis]

as in if i have 289 gear in all slots then i have to take the ilvl hit for 2 crafted pieces...?

[spark river]

Yes

[noble oasis]

yes so which slots would i then do that in

[wary belfry]

you said ur 285

[spark river]

In that case you d target slots where you lose the least amount of stats

[wary belfry]

you dont have 289 in all slots

[noble oasis]

which are wrist boots?

[noble oasis]

yes i dont

[idle lake]

so the slots where u dont have 289 u craft

[noble oasis]

im trying to understand what i should do...

[idle lake]

unless its tier

[spark river]

You should sim on qe and see whats your biggest upgrade

[idle lake]

my slots r cloak and belt

:D

[noble oasis]

alright perf thank you guys

[wary belfry]

mine is cloak + chest

[idle lake]

if u go onto qelive

use upgrade finder

will tell u

[noble oasis]

was just trying to understand how i should go about things as i do get closer to 290

[noble oasis]

will do!

[idle lake]

i love my life

any advice for bonus rolling on windrunner spire

do i switch my spec at all

[spark river]

bonus roll chim instead

[idle lake]

got 1 spare

hit mt ring in one try

3 weeks until guaranteed gaze

❤️

[sudden rover]

nice tmog

[idle lake]

ty :))

[thorn plover]

Theres a crafted "set" isn't there? That's what IV is saying to avoid

[stable iron]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YDxVX7bcvQfHzrJR?fight=3&type=healing&source=7 Anyone around for a log review? Parsing green and feels bad. WoWanalyzer kind of just said "hey good job!" but I know this is shit

[sudden rover]

44cpm (low), 86% uptime lifebloom (shud be 100) and bad abundance stacks

cast more, track your lifebloom and work on your abundance stacks

[stable iron]

Big, thank you, kisses your pfp

[sudden rover]

yw

[median salmon]

Is there a macro that shifts you into bearform and uses survival of the fittest?

[radiant narwhal]

typically if I want to press a button in a certain stance, I bind that button to the stance button

so for me cat form is R and then HotW is R

then I /cancelform

[median salmon]

thx

[keen plover]

6% wipe on 3rd boss of SEAT in what would be my last timed 18. I hate this place

[half star]

So close though! You’ll get it next time

[formal plaza]

Is Wild Growth beneficial to use just prior to an AOE damage event to get another hot up on everyone (whilst stacking Abundance of course)... or do we always WG after the damage event?

[proven phoenix]

either is fine, ideally right before

[radiant narwhal]

did WG used to have a hefty initial heal?

or am I bugging and tweaking

[echo path]

Still does

Bursts for a few ticks after cast then ticks down in healing

[radiant narwhal]

I mean like a physical big one

like regrowth

not just the ticks

[tough portal]

No the only direct heal on WG cast that I recall since at least BFA* is the Embrace talent that nobody played until this xpac and definitely not in M+

[keen plover]

34:00/34:00 WE DID IT! 18 resil achieved
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tL2ZnVXFR819kPcw?fight=1&type=healing

[half star]

Let’s goooo!! I told ya!

Just enough seconds lol

[echo path]

Back in Wod it was instant cast and basically did its first tick after cast, but that was WOD

[echo path]

Grats! That’s a buzzer beater right there

[half star]

Wait Isabelle is my guildie I think!

[keen plover]

TY !!!

[ebon reef]

is there a written guide that covers all the dps builds? cenarius/ I saw jdot convoking in bear form/cat weaving vs boom boxing

[sinful jackal]

Boom boxing

Hell yeah

[zealous scarab]

Man, I still need the Nexus staff and instead I keep getting duplicates rolling as balance. Guess I'm not getting a staff. I feel targeted by whatever new bug this is.

[thorn plover]

if you rolled as X loot spec and changed to Y loot spec it resets your loot table

[marsh prism]

insane game

[versed osprey]

does jdotb have his ui available somewhere? Can't seem to find it

[plush sun]

i like how every dungeon costs like 300 ~ 500 gold in term of repairs even if you dont die at all

paying sub wasn't enough we have to buy tokens just to have enough gold to repair

[rustic copper]

I’ve been making bank in raid looting trash mobs for raw gold

Another reason to never play m+

[thorn whale]

Making bank is 2k for a reclear or what

[plush sun]

this season raiding is the most unrewarding activity for the past like 20 years or something

no way to gear up from raids tbh i still rather spam m+ and farm crests

[proven phoenix]

"making bank"

"trash mob raw gold"

???

[onyx trail]

[thorn whale]

Except the fact that all good trinkets are from raid still

Except for the ones that use puzzle box ig

[plush sun]

yea that's true, whatever trinket i got from dungeons was completely useless for me

like what in the world even is this.. not even in my top 15 heals smh

[proven phoenix]

raid just has dogshit raw ilvl

but the specific slots are good (trinkets, rings, neck)

[proven phoenix]

every m+ trinket sucks ass

just how it is

[onyx trail]

heart is okay half the raid trinkets are just bonkers tho

[proven phoenix]

even heart of wind is just ass compared to any of the raid trinkets

[plush sun]

yea ilvl is absurd like doing hc raid for ilvl that drops from +6 is just silly

[proven phoenix]

people complain too much if they buff raid drops

if I spoke my thoughts on m+ers or pvpers I would break rule 1

[onyx trail]

and then they do it anyway

[proven phoenix]

yes

well

they havent done anything egregious yet

raid vault is better and the endboss cantrips are better

nothing insane

[onyx trail]

gaze is pretty egregious

but wcyd, how it be

[proven phoenix]

everyone and their mom can pug chimaerus

[onyx trail]

DONT WANNA

also im never getting into a m chim pug without linking your CE

[proven phoenix]

only the end boss drops are relevant when it coems to a loot exclusivity discussion

but I'll just do a chimaerus with you

its w/e

[pulsar kettle]

@tough portal

[onyx trail]

[rustic copper]

It’s like 4k I think

[onyx trail]

rich get richer moment.. ? suspicious

[rustic copper]

[rustic copper]

You can get into groups week 1 without ce

Missed your chance

[onyx trail]

week 1

delusional got it

[rustic copper]

Yeah after week 1 half the groups were already ce only

[onyx trail]

[proven phoenix]

come on man

you do sales

I dont even do sales

I wouldnt loot a trash mob for 4k

[rustic copper]

True

[tough portal]

[azure jungle]

Boots and belt for crafting yeah? Assuming Myth track gear overall.

[reef zenith]

Bracers and cloak as end state, maximises embellishment but with least amount of main stat drop.

Patch in particular slots if needed though, 285 still beats 276

I’ve had friends get into Dreamrift without CE. The groups are just more of a gamble.

Once you have it though, you get access to better groups, but they’ll still screw up now and then. Just something you put up with. At least bonus rolls make it deterministic

But even as someone mythic raiding this season - I do think the loot situation sucks. Kinda lucky it’s season 1 so main stat > all otherwise the secondary distribution would be more annoying. But trinkets… if they can’t be bothered to balance them I really wish they’d just make trinket drops a token so we can buy the one we want.

[radiant narwhal]

I link HoF Crown and still dont get into Chim sometimes

people being people

[proven phoenix]

linking shit is beta behavior man

you will never catch me linking my achievements to a heroic raider

[marsh prism]

if i make a group like for an alt run or smth and people whisper me achievements i block them

[onyx trail]

ivory tower take

[onyx trail]

brutal

[proven phoenix]

I dont care what take it is, its so embarassing linking shit to people

[onyx trail]

they can just look you up or see your raider io that ur wr90 brother

[proven phoenix]

I would rather get declined from 50 groups than get into one by linking an achievement

[proven phoenix]

thats much better than me begging them to take me

[onyx trail]

yes u are just insta invited 90% of the time

[proven phoenix]

exactly

[graceful ermine]

What if I link my “to all the squirrels I loved before” achievement

[onyx trail]

aura

[proven phoenix]

its just so embarassing to me linking achievements to people, I give my achievements to people to link all the time

just never do it myself

[onyx trail]

im gonna start putting in my note 5'4" weak femboy have thigh highs and a positive mental attitude

surely that will get me in

[proven phoenix]

please be for real

I would rahter link 6'3" weak femboy have thigh highs and a rotten attitude than a ce achievement

[onyx trail]

[marsh prism]

i cant just link the fishing log cuz i havent caught all the fish from this patch yet

[onyx trail]

u are just embarrassed to be alive i think

[onyx trail]

FISH FEAR ME

[proven phoenix]

how is it not pathetic to have to justify my presence in a group to some heroic pug raider

[radiant narwhal]

What’s ur characters name? So I know who to link to

[onyx trail]

egotistical self judgment

[marsh prism]

https://tomestone.gg/character/36066023/aztai-baatar

[onyx trail]

au ra best race

[radiant narwhal]

This is

[onyx trail]

I love being a dragon girl

[radiant narwhal]

Insane behaviour

[marsh prism]

huh

[proven phoenix]

having to justify my presence in a HEROIC GROUP

you cant argue with me about this

[onyx trail]

I can and I WILL

[proven phoenix]

let me keep some of my pride

[onyx trail]

ur pride will be your downfall young one

[proven phoenix]

lots of things will be my downfall before my pride

[onyx trail]

[formal fjord]

GL on vault tomorrow folks

[river sable]

Hey guys, with the Soul of the Forest spell queue issue

Would it be a good idea to stick /csq on swiftmend, regrowth and rejuv mouseover macro I’m using currently ?

[proven phoenix]

I havent encountered the sotf spell queue thing in a long time and sometimes I try to do it intentionally

[grizzled seal]

I just make a small gap

[proven phoenix]

I dont think it works anymore

[grizzled seal]

Or don't regrowth before swiftmending if it's avoidable

Idk how you haven't encountered it

Just do regrowth into swiftmend

[proven phoenix]

not since the apex change at least

idk

[fervent mica]

crazy

[proven phoenix]

in pvp sometimes I intentionally try to do it but it doesnt work lmao

[plush sun]

do you all healing 170k when 2 packs with chain aoe dmg gets pulled in Seat without any BL

[proven phoenix]

170k hps is not a lot

[grizzled seal]

I did 200k in 10s on week 1 lol

What was the ilvl

[plush sun]

somehow i got blamed for not doing enough heals when they pulled 1 pack with bl and 2 pack without bl

[grizzled seal]

260 or some shit

[proven phoenix]

yes im not saying its your fault im just saying you can manage 200k+

[river sable]

I’ve noticed it in keys from time to time but haven’t been pushing yet so hasn’t been an issue

Just realising the effect this could be having in raid prog though which isn’t as easily noticeable

[plush sun]

still at 276 ilvl best i could do was 120k lmao

[grizzled seal]

Then maybe these people were right

Having deaths when your healer is doing 120k hps is crazy

[proven phoenix]

ive become a solo shuffle main these days, raid and m+ have both become boring

[river sable]

But either leaving small gaps or /csq are both solutions though right ?

[proven phoenix]

yes

[formal fjord]

nice!

[proven phoenix]

well the 2nd one should be but I've never tried it

[plush sun]

bruh

[grizzled seal]

For 40k you can level a profession on your alt to the point where you can craft them yourself

[stable verge]

Hey, he tried

Imaging someone says yes to that shit

[plush sun]

didn't even wait for me to maybe say yes, immediately ignored

[bright swift]

Delusional crafters

Most crafters just ask for tips

pay what you like

[fervent mica]

have had plenty of people give me 50k to make something... kinda funny when it happens though

the only time i ever charged people was during dragonflight when i had to go to brackenhide to craft their shit

[quiet wyvern]

[Global Ignore List] You are being ignored.

[haughty ibex]

this is crazy

on my good part of earth realm if u go over 3k u are a weirdo

[spark river]

3k has become standard

I craft even people who send me 100g who cares

Doesnt even take conc

[sudden rover]

i dont even ask for anything, most of the time I craft for free

and when I need something crafted I throw like 1k

it's super chill in ravencrest

[uneven narwhal]

resto druids get far more out of tranq from the flourish than the raw healing itself right?

or wrong?

like if they ramp 10 rejuves into a convoke then a flourishing convoke

[gentle nova]

Right

You can get a very long regrowth window if you do it right

[uneven narwhal]

I wanted to react a thumbs up but it seems I have been blocked

so pretend I gave you a thumbs up

[gentle nova]

Cant react in this discord

[spark river]

No fun allowed

[glossy brook]

if somebody sends me 100g i hostage their spark for 30 mins and log off i can't lie

actually that's not true, if they asked how much I always say 'free' so if they asked and sent 100g i hit craft, but if they just send 100g after i log onto my alt to craft their shit

i'm accepting the order and logging off.

but ya 40k is utterly delusional for anything that wasn't an early arcanoweave bracer or some shit

[sudden rover]

your soul is dark

might want to do some deep introspection ngl

[marsh prism]

grow up for real

[kind star]

god I completely forgot how to play FF14 and I get a DRK made of paper smh

[stable verge]

Not home to test, but if you're running Keeper and flourish, does the tranquility from the swiftmend dryad extend hots duration ?

[radiant narwhal]

ur just a bad person for this btw

[tired gale]

is adding no channeling to spells still a thing?

i keep canceling my tranq at 6 ticks

[uneven narwhal]

poor val...let he who is without sin cast the first stone

[grizzled seal]

It never does

[stable verge]

kk ty, big sad

[marsh prism]

the first dungeon I did levelling drk was holminster switch and I literally did not have tbn bound the entire time and I didn't realise because I didnt know it was a thing

I found out a few minutes later

it's possible I was reported to the authorities

[kind star]

I havent played WHM even tho I KNOW Its simple, but completely forgot all my buttons haha

meant to bene the tank and popped plenary judgement and stuff x)

missed the ff14 vibes but not the MSQ everyone so chill and nice there.

[hazy spoke]

For a wild growth macro, this is what I've been using. How come it won't cast when the target is out of range? I've tried other versions of this, like removing exists, still gives me issues though.

#showtooltip
/use [@mouseover,exists,nodead,nomod][]wild growth

[whole horizon]

"how come it won't cast when the target is out of range"

it's because you're trying to target someone out of range

the [] clause will escape to default behavior when none of the previous conditions are met, but "in range" isn't a condition

[hazy spoke]

So there's no way to just target myself with it if my target is out of range? Doesn't WG go to the lowest HP person near your target anyway?

[wheat grove]

Should Wild Growth in raid be used before big damage as a pre-HoT, or after the damage actually goes out?

[fierce isle]

If you can have wild growth land right as damage goes it that’s optimal

Into regrowth spam with prepped abundance stacks

[clear hawk]

question to all resto druids pushing high m+ key: what are the addons that you cant live without? 🤭

[lyric surge]

there is no way to do this because macros can't detect if your target is in range or not

[stable verge]

DandersFrame, Exwind tool, Exwind boss, Platynator, Minicc

Everything else is cool stuff but fairly unimpactful to me

[azure jungle]

Exwind. Is that the Chinese DBM I've been seeing?

[stable verge]

Yeah. The DBM portion is whatever but it does some very very nice things

The text/sound reminder of upcoming events on boss and trash is very good, the ability to track trash major abilities cooldown (just like WA did) is great

[stable verge]

Minicc as well, obviously

[clear hawk]

emmm exwind, any configuration needed?

[stable verge]

Take the translation pack so that it's not chinese, otherwise it can be fairly plug and play.
Some profile may be available online. At baseline you could always turn off a lot of quality of life in exwing tool (very easy) to keep the rest

[azure jungle]

+1 for Mini CC.

[clear hawk]

thanks for the tips! will try it once server is up 😄

[oak garnet]

You can definitely live without exwind

What is minicc doing that danders or platynator can't?

[stable verge]

I don't think danders tracks group cd, or did they update it ?

[oak garnet]

It doesn't no, I use Petes defensive history for that

[stable verge]

I've heard Blizzi Party tools or BLizzi interupt tracker (something like this), is better than Minicc, since it tracks racial and other major cooldowns (zephyr and such), but have not tried it

Supposedly all these addons are half guessing most of the times and can't properly read the cooldowns anyway but one day.. maybe .. blizz will be nice

[oak garnet]

A nameplate addon, a party frame addon, a boss ability tracking addon, mythic dungeon tools, honorable mentions to raider io and premade group filters

[clear hawk]

hahah thanks, i have them, just curious if there is anything special that im missing out :p

[stable verge]

Well it's all fairly basic nowadays, most of it is just playing & playing
Technically the number one addon you should have to improve is something to upload logs and study them

As well as maybe even recording yourself but otherwise addons are not as high impact as they used to be

[oak garnet]

Nope, no secret sauce.

[vivid peak]

premade groups filter if you're pugging

[clear hawk]

ooo, this is something new hahaha

btw, is there any popular resto druid doing twitch stream?

[stable verge]

Vickman has that

Although I think he is playing a lot of mw these days

Still you should find a bunch of keys on YouTube, sometimes with commentary, across 18-21 level

[stable verge]

"Vick" on youtube

[sudden rover]

all the twitch druid has moved on, they all play mw now

lairas, jb, vickman

[stable verge]

Yeah also

[sudden rover]

our spec is dogshit so yeah

[clear hawk]

icic... hahaha thanks guys

[sudden rover]

we are only top 2 healer need a big help

actually nvm top 3

[stable verge]

Well if you account for group comp.. top3

[sudden rover]

rsham better

[stable verge]

Yeah x)

[clear hawk]

😭

[stable verge]

Well hey, to be fair it's not because we're not good, but because bears are bears

And having 2 druids in a comp is dumb

Otherwise we are a perfectly capable spec that still has S tier utility and throughput

Well healing throughput..

[clear hawk]

ohhh really?? i kinda like the symbiotic relationship on each others so far hahaha!

[stable verge]

Well 2 druids equal one less group buff sadly

Meanwhile mw is braindead spin2win and damage and Rsham provides lust and excellent synergy with physical comp

[sudden rover]

that is quite correct my good sir

a fine analysis

[stable verge]

Would probably be better if more tanks were as good as bear or monk but it is what it is

Ofc none of that matters at lower level, people will invite whatever, but the more you climb the more you'll feel that restodruid isn't the healer people are looking for

[nova forge]

2 Druids can accomplish anything.

[clear hawk]

thanks for the great insights! gonna look at some twitch/youtube videos on what they are doing so well 😄

[stable verge]

Gl ! Have fun

[stable verge]

I wonder how our balance / feral friends are doing

I never see one in my groups.
Make sense since I'm already a druid but still

[sudden rover]

feral is ok with melee comp, u can climb

balance no way

[stable verge]

F for the chickens

[long siren]

[wheat grove]

Nice emoji, baer

[clear hawk]

guys, do you know how to remove the arcane beam debuff from MT? looking at lairas video and she said something like "we can mend it" and the debuff went off, dont understand what she meant though 😛

[subtle cobalt]

She probably said "we can meld it" meaning shadowmeld 🙂

[wheat grove]

Meld

[tall jungle]

yeah that what i was thinking

[clear hawk]

ahhhh icic...

[wheat grove]

She said "meld it"

[clear hawk]

thanks guys ❤️

[plush sun]

i find it really weird that your currently equipped trinkets are not automatically shown here

if they removed WA then how you track down their cd

[subtle cobalt]

Some of the cdm addons can do it -- AyijeCDM etc

[plush sun]

i'll check ty

[kind star]

just dumb its not baseline tho

[long siren]

All BAERmoji are nice

[bright swift]

add it to the list of dumb addon decisions blizzard made this patch

[kind star]

bliz wants us to stop using addons and then they dont put trinkets on CDM at least for us dont really matter since we use passives.

[clear hawk]

any idea how do i shift these shortcuts?

[stable verge]

In the main addon menu you can probably unlock everything to move around shit

Forgot where that option is but look for an unlock or edit in the addon menu

Something like that but for exwind tool (or maybe this one works already)

[clear hawk]

ahhh ok, let me try it thanks!

[fleet jewel]

just 1 more patch... surely ui is fixed by then

[oak garnet]

R druid is still really solid in keys. Not being meta doesn't matter until 20 resil. You can do 19s with good players, a lust, a bres and preferably >1 tanky dps

Regardless of comp

[wise galleon]

I've fallen in key homework hell, the amount of keys im failing now is like 4x and its mostly dps with dumb mistakes that just are not tolerated anymore in 19s

I want to still push but I just get invited in keys every 30min and that key is of people that have timed a 18 max and just got the 19 out of it making the 18, painge

I just want to rant about how M+ system in wow is just such a waste of time just to permit myself to play at the key level I want to attempt

/rant off

[marsh plover]

if QELive is recomending and upgrade from vault even tho its more of like a side-upgrade is it worth getting the extra bonus roll instead so I can target farm BiS from a dungeon?

[wise galleon]

yes, maybe you have more gear in that same dungeon that you could happen to roll

consider changing spec to guarantee an easier drop but remember to always roll in that current spec in the dungeon you are targetin

otherwise the luck protection does not work if you keep bonus reroll while changing spec

because each spec has its own table of luck protection

[marsh plover]

Yea unfortunately I am farming 2 rings in two different dungeons. I guess I could also get the corespark multitool but I already have max crafted magisters valediction. can I upgrade that with the voidforge?

[wise galleon]

Send me qelive btw

[grizzled seal]

You dont take a dungeon vault unless it's the last item you need from that dungeon

[rustic copper]

Or tertiary

[marsh plover]

oh ok gotcha

[night flint]

Are we sticking in resto for loot?

[grizzled seal]

No

[marsh plover]

depends on dung right?

[grizzled seal]

You stick to whatever gives you the least number of items for the given dungeon/boss/vault

[marsh plover]

sometimes gaurdian has less items than resto for target farming

[grizzled seal]

Yep

[rustic copper]

I don’t think you use resto loot spec for any dungeons iirc

Loot spec should always be guardian balance or feral

For vault too

[exotic magnet]

prob resto spec if you're coining npx for staff, as an exception

[distant birch]

nah go balance tehre

[exotic magnet]

oh, or do you balance that? forget if there's a bad resto trinket

[distant birch]

dont do resto

[exotic magnet]

ah rip

[distant birch]

it has dogshit trinklet

[exotic magnet]

i had staff already by the time they came out, so I guardian rolled it - forgot

[thorn plover]

Paladins ring lets you upgrade it with voidcores to 295

Lol

[fervent mica]

wut

i have one of those in my vault currently... but its not really an upgrade. if it goes to 295 it would be

[thorn plover]

Surely fixed soon, or a good way to catch a ban lol

[weary trail]

Anyone dabble in that moonkin style healer in high keys? How’s it doing?

[plush light]

Anyone tried Eye of the Drowning Void trinket? Wondering if it's good dmg in keys

[vivid peak]

fun for weekly keys not very good for anything that needs healing

[pine coyote]

yeah mw is incredibly dumb to play

dmg of resto sham is too stupid as well tbh

with acid rain

you just put it on melee and do passive dmg

[lament river]

Any suggestions to resto druid streamers atm? There twitch name

[toxic zephyr]

i personally watch roiben jdotb and vickman , but they might be playing Mw's Pushing keys now

[spark river]

All of them are monk players right no w

Everyone is pushing on monk

[thorn plover]

What's a resto druid

[solid violet]

really fun <16 but super punishing on big aoes 🙁

[spark river]

I dont think its really fun

You just spam starfire

[solid violet]

big numbers feel good tho :p >100k dps on first pit pull is kinda nice

useless but fun

[fierce isle]

I got M Valegor’s trinket in my vault to pair with M Gaze replacing H Heart.

For those that have used it do you hold Vaelgor’s to use with convoke or tranq and sit on the cd for 30 sec?

[weary trail]

This man gets it

Just tryna keep it alive with some flavor

[cloud gale]

I have a problem with the 18+ I'm doing something wrong in the heal but I can't figure out what, does anyone have any advice or a guide for the high keys?

[split knot]

set loot spec to resto, open vault, see fist weapon, close vault and log off

[spark river]

With the bonus rolls from vault, shit vaults are not even that impactful tbh

[spark river]

This is a very vague description. You need to tell us what in particular are you struggling with or provide some log.

[grizzled seal]

80% of vaults should be picking rolls and 19% should be picking sockets

The odds of a vault just happening to roll the last item in a dungeon pool are so vanishingly small

[fierce isle]

@grizzled seal Any insights?

[grizzled seal]

Idk man I can't wait to stop using it

Just popping it for vibes now

[spark river]

Most pair it with convoke from what I ve seen

[fierce isle]

So you just use it on cd?

[fierce isle]

Crown trinket would be lovely. Sadly I bonus rolled the crappy boots for our one and only kill Sunday.

[grizzled seal]

I use it on cd when I'm planning the next use with tranq

It's really fucking awkward, I hate it

[fierce isle]

Yeah non synced trinkets are always cringe

[vivid peak]

i wanna fix my cursed binds, what are good ones? i don't use mouse clicks at all currently

[stable verge]

Did a 19 pit with the spec (by mistake) and it was the easiest PoS of my life
Well mostly since this key is both easy and fits well the damage profile

[cloud gale]

loss hps , hve problem to refull if take big dmg

[stable verge]

But otherwise ye, it's meh

[stable verge]

Do you have a log or something like it ?

Or what killed you guys

[hearty coral]

i think i just did an actual push +12 key right now

it was

incredible

ret pally took like

[stable verge]

Was the group 210ilvl ?

[hearty coral]

5 mil unavoidable

nah

they were like 270s

[spark river]

Share some of your, we ll give you opinions and you can decide what works best for you

[sudden rover]

alt f4 for lifebloom

[hearty coral]

tank kamikazed me with the tb with roll like 3 times in the last boss of mt

[cloud gale]

no, I'll register the next keys and post them

[sudden rover]

these are mine if u want to get inspired

been playing with same binds for 10 years

[stable verge]

Okay. Well at least can you tell us a moment where you or your group died?

[haughty ibex]

shift x is crazy how do u even clickthat

like what fingers do u use

[spark river]

Little finger and middle one for me

Not the craziest bind tbh

[sudden rover]

little pinky for shift

[haughty ibex]

it feels really awk to me

[stable verge]

Yeah S+x is better for me than like 6

[haughty ibex]

shift anything that is in the bottom row of keyboard feels wrong...

but is 2 mins so like makes ense

[spark river]

It is a bit awkward yeah, but I use z x c so kinda not idk

[vivid peak]

1 sw, 2 rejuv, 3 rg, 4 lb, 5 wg. shift 4 convoke, shift x tranq

[haughty ibex]

ye i use that too but without modifiers

[vivid peak]

e is dispell

[sudden rover]

mind u i have azerty keyboard since I'm french

not the same shit

[haughty ibex]

oh

thats why ur keybinds are bad.. cuz ur french

[spark river]

Lmaooo

[haughty ibex]

but x is in same position as qwerty no?

[stable verge]

">" is underated

[sudden rover]

no clue

[spark river]

how are you rejuving on the move

2 for rejuv seems odd

[stable verge]

Same here, didn't think about it but X is the same I believe

[vivid peak]

i just angle my camera that forward is to one side

[haughty ibex]

where the fuck is that man

[haughty ibex]

this

[spark river]

My binds are 4 rj, r regrowth, tranq 5, convoke t, sw f, dispel v

[haughty ibex]

rj on q supremacy

[spark river]

I got wrath on q lol

[haughty ibex]

u might be french too…

[trail crown]

Are you guys using mouse wheel scroll up and down or am I the only one doing that

[stable verge]

Sure yeah

That's my WG

[spark river]

Mwup is hotw for me

Mwdown is symbiotic relationship lol

[trail crown]

Tbf we don’t have that many things to bind so it makes sense I guess

I’ve put my Boomkin abilities on mouse wheel. Shift up/down for the dots, starsurge is wheel up, wrath is wheel down

[rustic copper]

I’m convinced it’s impossible to heal without gaps between casts when you use the same fingers to move as press a mouseover heal

[haughty ibex]

i think that druid is one of the classes with the most binds tho

[spark river]

I have some shared binds like rejuv/rake, regrowth/rip, swiftmend/starfire

[haughty ibex]

ye I have a full stance bar so i dont even count those

[spark river]

z x c are my forms

But I dont count those lol

[vivid peak]

yeah that's why i want to start using mouse clicks for spells

[spark river]

You can still use mouseovers just find buttons where you can comfortably move and cast spells

[haughty ibex]

if u use like left mouse button for rj, is it also gonna target the player u casting it on?

[rustic copper]

It has to be your mouse hand that presses the mouseover keybind

[haughty ibex]

idk if it makes sense

[rustic copper]

You rebind target

[haughty ibex]

oh ye makes sense

[rustic copper]

If I left click on an enemy mob it targets them, if I left click on a frame it regrowths them, if I mouse 4 a frame it targets them

[trail crown]

I guess I just don’t utilize our full toolkit haha. I didn’t keybind many cat things for instance

[rustic copper]

Mouse 4 is not even a great bind I could make it something more obscure to open up mouse 4 for something better

[spark river]

alt left click is a better one imo

[trail crown]

What about space bar, anyone using that

[spark river]

Definitely not a common thing

[rustic copper]

Bind space bar to something other than jump and jump using mouse wheel down

I’m not doing that

[spark river]

Counter Strike player identified

[haughty ibex]

what is jump even useful for in pve

like acc wondering

[rustic copper]

To carry momentum from speed boosts, to jump over gaps

[spark river]

We literally have crown in this tier lol

[haughty ibex]

yea okay i dont play that shit...

[rustic copper]

Sometimes I jump when I’m feeling locked in

[mystic crater]

I think there’s also technically been a mechanic or two where you have to jump over things too

[haughty ibex]

jump n1 use is to lock in

[spark river]

There was that trinket from undermine where you needed to jump 3 times or smth

[rustic copper]

The biggest reason though I think is wild charge and tiger dash

[fleet jewel]

🦘 npx engi beams

[mystic crater]

Other classes and races can glide and double jump over stuff smile

Jump is kinda useful in wow

[haughty ibex]

ye was wondering if there was secret uses

[vivid peak]

im trying left click rejuv for the rest of the raid and this feels so weird

[fleet jewel]

🦘 sr wind skip

[spark river]

Any keybind change feels weird in the beggining

[rustic copper]

It doesn’t take long to get used to them imo

[vivid peak]

yup i just keep trying to click 2

[rustic copper]

I changed my binds in midnight and it took me like 1 dungeon to stop accidently swiftmending when I wanted to regrowth

[grizzled seal]

What's wrong with click 2 keybind

It's the same as click 1

[rustic copper]

Just change everything all at once

[rustic copper]

They’re clicking left click instead of the number 2

[grizzled seal]

Oh number 2

[exotic zephyr]

Is there any advantage to using clique keybinds over in game mouse over macros other than just adding more potential keybinds?

[grand herald]

cant bind mouse clicks otherwise right?

[silk ice]

Binding mouse clicks, binding completely different spells depending on if you’re mousing over a frame or not, mouseover macros sometimes bricks when given spatial paradox but addons like clique doesn’t have that problem, not needing to write a bunch of code yourself

[fervent path]

I jump when getting out of Placed puddles so I can do an instant cast while moving (doing it while pressing W would be harder for me)

[silk ice]

An MMO mouse with keybinds on it can split the load between your hands, or you can use a more convenient keybind that uses your index finger like F, E, R, 4

[sudden rover]

I just killed paladins for the first time yeey

190k hps and only parsing 67 wtf

[proven phoenix]

its a very good boss for druid, its also a boss where you can play the boss insanely poorly and do a ton more healing

[sudden rover]

ye

u guys know the heal absorb's name on paladins?

so I can look at it on wlogs

[proven phoenix]

tyrs wrath

just click on the absorbed healing button at the top

[sudden rover]

tyty

[hearty coral]

qelive says running 4pc over the haste mastery shoulders is a 2.3% gain with the heroic ones and 2.6 with the mythic ones is that 2.3% its factoring in a vacuum of spamming wg on cd it actually doing good healing when its cast and also not going oom?

[thorn plover]

There is a small fps loss using mouseover macros too, not significant but it's there

[silk ice]

Secondaries aren’t normally worth more than a set bonus

[hearty coral]

i know

[thorn plover]

Pretty sure it is in the case of our 4 piece but I'm not arguing this again today

[hearty coral]

but also this set bonus is very odd because of it not being a straight % gain

its an ability we already dont use on cd

and it just lowers its cd

and mana cost

[rustic copper]

Healing is complicated and qelive makes a lot of assumptions

[hearty coral]

also i wasnt arguing for or against it

and i was just asking how qelive calculated it

[hearty coral]

yes i was asking if it was assuming like everyones health bars are perma at 50% and it could be spammed on cd with no outside factors

cause then it makes sense that it would be a gain

[thorn plover]

Sure, wg heals for a lot, but we cant press it on cd

[rustic copper]

Yeah i dont know how he values the cdr or the mana but in practice the cdr has been worthless and the mana depends on how much of an inter you are

[sudden rover]

@thorn plover I know u are the paladins goat, do u mind checking my kill real quick and telling me how I can cross 190k hps pls?

I'm looking at the top rdruid's logs atm, can't quite spot the difference

he's at 250k wtf

[spark river]

Just press your spells man

[sudden rover]

bro he has same cpm as me, same casts of rg lb etc

but he heals 30 million more

insane

[spark river]

So show the log

[sudden rover]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/j49aw3AkpvLWbzqt?fight=24&type=healing

ty 🙏

I think it's the abundance stacks again but not sure

I dont see how to do more than 190k yet

he has same casts of regrowth and rejuv, literally same. like how

[spark river]

I still think that cpm is bad for double reck pot

2 of your tranqs were also bad so you missed out on a longer regrowth window

[sudden rover]

but the top 1 has same cpm as me

so it's not that surely?

on tranq I agree yeah, bad on my end

[spark river]

You also clipped 19 rejuvs

Thats kinda not ideal

The rank 1 did a whole 2 mil more on his third tranq than you did

Thatas quite a lot

[sudden rover]

yeah

idk I can't spot the difference

the thing that baffles me is how his regrowth heals 7 million more than mine, 22M to my 15M

but we have the same casts

crazy

[spark river]

Your third convoke also did only 300k healing

You basically slammed it into nothing

[sudden rover]

ok

[median marsh]

top log, 36% overheal, your log 54% overheal

[spark river]

Yeah that also

On my best pull on paladins where im on 225k regrowth is 45% overheal

[gentle nova]

People checking hpriest logs saying they cant spot a difference

😂

[sudden rover]

what do u mean?

[gentle nova]

Yeah i cant spot a difference when they press divine hymn 4 times a fight for 25% global hps amp

[sudden rover]

we both have hpriest in raid, me and top 2

[median marsh]

tbf here they both have hpriest

[gentle nova]

Oh so its skill issue gg

[sudden rover]

for sure

I'm humble enough to ask for guidance idgaf

[gentle nova]

Their divine hymn timer matters

[median marsh]

top log raid also taking 70k+ more damage per second

[gentle nova]

Your tranq windows will do 300 gazillion hps in a divine hymn amp

[rustic copper]

Post month 1 logs

[sudden rover]

nah I took the top 2 which was may 24 or some shit

very recent

[sudden rover]

so I should talk to my hpriest and press tranq at the same time he divine hymns?

[spark river]

Top 2 is just 2 healers slacking and him having 40% overheal

So his every regrowthing is getting almost full value

[sudden rover]

yeah

[spark river]

This is basically what also was happening in my guild

And I was on 225k and we died before my third tranq

[sudden rover]

so they do this on purpose? it's a parse run for them basically?

the other 4 are semi afk

so he can heal more?

[spark river]

Either parse run or the other healers are bad which was the case for my guild

[sudden rover]

aight

ok well tyvm bro

I still have a few shit to fix, bad tranq & convoke

but overall quite happy with my performance. okish

[spark river]

Like you could have been over 200k if you fixed some stuff but not really 250k

[sudden rover]

I see

tyty

[median marsh]

you only cast 1 rejuv in the 20 seconds leading up to your 2nd tranq

[spark river]

Your innervates were also criminal

Saving only 8k mana on an innervate is a bannable offence

[median marsh]

and cast 9 regrowths in your pre-tranq window

should be the other way around

then regrowth spam after the tranq for ages

[sudden rover]

ty

I take those

ye tbh I'm quite bad around my convoke & tranq yet, I just throw them as soon as they are up

[spark river]

That is a very bad thing to do lol

[median marsh]

your recklessness is also proccing mastery which means you should be 100% pairing it with tranq

and a lower overheal tranq window especially

like at 3 minutes instead of pull

[sudden rover]

shud I use lights potential instead?

[spark river]

No

Shift some stats

So you get haste

[median marsh]

mastery recklessness is also fine

[sudden rover]

hmm

[median marsh]

but to get the most out of it you need to pre-tranq properly

[sudden rover]

got you

tyvm

[spark river]

You should have a tts 20-30 seconds before tranq so you can prepare properly

You should have at least 15+ hots and a wg before tranqing so you re at 12 abundance for quite a long time to get the most out of those regrowths

[sudden rover]

right

[hearty coral]

if 3 mins is a good tranq spot why not just tranq on pull

[median marsh]

on about sending pot

not tranq

no point sending pot on pull if its high overheal area

[hearty coral]

oh i misread

yeah i agree

i dont pot on pull either

[spark river]

You get 2 pots if you tranq pull

[hearty coral]

thats also a fair point

[median marsh]

you do but unelss you're underhealing

that just goes into nothing

[spark river]

Why would you not want a pot on 2 of your 3 tranqs on that fight

[median marsh]

depends on the situation

your tranq is

[rustic copper]

Because the 2nd one is the one that matters

And the 1st and 3rd are irrelevant

Holy moly

[hearty coral]

this the 3 min one

?

i need a nikolog to just copy

smh

[rustic copper]

PayPal me 500 usd for log access

[proven phoenix]

More pots aren’t always better you just have to make a decision yourself. 2 mid pots vs 1 really good one

[rustic copper]

Yes you should pot for 3 min convoke

I potted once on paladins and Lura

I’m ethical as fuck

[radiant narwhal]

did u just pot intermission?

[hearty coral]

[proven phoenix]

I potted once on lura as well

And yeah it was intermission

[rustic copper]

P2 because I did not get spatial in intermission

So our mw have to do more in intermission and I have to carry p2

[balmy scaffold]

Gaze + Vaelgor's or Gaze + Heart? Maybe it depends? QE gives different results depending on if I look at top gear or trinket section.

[rustic copper]

Heart

[radiant narwhal]

wait u guys are getting spatial???

[proven phoenix]

No spatial

[radiant narwhal]

We're getting fucking double time spiral for dps

should i riot?

[onyx trail]

always

[proven phoenix]

It doesn’t really matter but yeah spatial is giga for hps

Time spiral is a lot better for dps

[radiant narwhal]

@rustic copper im assuming ur using tranq and convoked in intermission

so when do you use pot

just as soon as p2 starts?

[proven phoenix]

I would pot 2nd p2 convoke if anything

Assuming cds are the same

[radiant narwhal]

my 2nd convoke is about 8s before phase

[proven phoenix]

That’s kinda fair actually yeah prob 1st convoke is fine

[radiant narwhal]

we have double mw using revival in intermission so

im doing lots of overhealing

lmao

[rustic copper]

that is stupid

[median marsh]

ye you being griefed

unlucky

[proven phoenix]

overhealing is fake

quit looking at it

[radiant narwhal]

I never understood the 'overhealing is fake' argument

[proven phoenix]

you are doing 70k hps to yourself at all times, most of which goes to overhealing
tranq also doesnt play well with overhealing at all

since tranq healing scales inversely with targets healed

even if you play like complete shit just having lifebloom and hots on yourself will result in you doing teh most raw hps

[thorn plover]

are you SM > NS > Regrowth on the absorbs?

also my paladins kills are nothing special, idk why you ask me. i play purely on vibes

[sudden rover]

idk I just saw your youtube video on it

and no I don't swiftmend NS on the absorbs

should I

[thorn plover]

yes

should have full hots on those guys before absorbs go out ofc

[sudden rover]

aight bet

ty

[radiant narwhal]

also when did they remove tranq HoT

[proven phoenix]

since this patch

[radiant narwhal]

it was a useless hot but contributed nicely to mastery

[proven phoenix]

yes they specifically killed a lot of extra hots

cultivation, spring blossoms, tranq, grove tending all gone

[radiant narwhal]

makes sense

[fervent path]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/etyhypasfrru

crafted chest and then simmed and 4p sims higher for me KEK

[thorn plover]

yeah 4 piece sims higher, but like niko said, it makes a lot of assumptions

the value placed on 4 piece assumes youre pressing WG on cd every time

[fervent path]

yeah and that its actually healing something

everytime

yeah ill use chest and see how it feels

[thorn plover]

im running shoulders, chest, pants off set

[fervent path]

gonna run this for raid today

maybe craft gloves for Beloren tomorrow

[thorn plover]

i think crafted hands, and tier pants is slightly better but idk

[fervent path]

hope tier legs drops from reclear tnite

[thorn plover]

im running the high haste crown legs

[fervent path]

alleria legs are poggies tho

yeah

was just checking that

dont think this druid will kill crown before it kills lura tho

[radiant narwhal]

ive been cucked on trinkets

[fervent path]

so ima just get tier

[radiant narwhal]

I need a good 2nd

[thorn plover]

42% haste unbuffed, lmao

[radiant narwhal]

I have rolled every item in windrunner spire EXCEPT heart of wind

[fervent path]

without flask?

[thorn plover]

yes

[fervent path]

wtf how

im 37.7% WITH flask

oh you got salh

[thorn plover]

thats crazy low

[fervent path]

trinket

[thorn plover]

taking that off, im still 40% no flask

[fervent path]

every item i have gives me haste

only boots

are bad

[thorn plover]

i have 1499 haste

could have more if i got lura ring, myth track bracers

also missing cloak from dragons

[vital crystal]

Can you bonus roll more than once in a mythic boss in the same week?

[thorn plover]

No

[vital crystal]

ok thank you!

[thorn plover]

how would you even kill the same mythic boss twice

[half nexus]

does the nature swiftness and convoke combo work still?

[thorn plover]

no

[half nexus]

ty

[vital crystal]

Idk maybe you can click twice or something, if it's only 1 roll per kill then riperoni

[thorn plover]

only 1 roll per kill

[half nexus]

is it ever worth using nature swiftness regrowth with soul of the forest?

[thorn plover]

sometimes yea

specifically paladins fight

[radiant narwhal]

L'ura crystals

[thorn plover]

flasked

[fervent path]

jfc

[half latch]

Silly question, who is your symbiotic relationship target in raid? Do I just use it on a tank?

[thorn plover]

squishy

[half latch]

Mage, got it 😄

[thorn plover]

thats who has mine at this moment

[half latch]

Thanks!

[fervent path]

ye I always either target mage or WW

[viral rapids]

Silly question, but my abundance tracker will disappear mid raid fights. But I have never had it happen in M+. Is this a known thing?

[radiant narwhal]

shift forms and it should cancel

like come back

[viral rapids]

oh that's weird lol.

[nocturne vortex]

is reforestation doggy doo doo

[bronze meadow]

this is my stats rn, all my jewlery is +17 mastery, should I keep it or spec some into vers

[fervent mica]

neither

[bronze meadow]

more haste or?

I checked qe live and am getting these

[radiant narwhal]

always more haste

[bronze meadow]

ez

[radiant narwhal]

now another 7% haste

[thorn plover]

beloren egg to 7%, 3 people DC

sweet

area 52 is a trash server

[urban kestrel]

chat servers dying mid lura pull

its pretty funny

remember that time jeff bezos told everyone they shouldn't own their own computer

fun times

[thorn plover]

no one on a52 can see the pull timer or ready check, everyone else is fine lol

[urban kestrel]

area 52 is chicago/US-east AWS too

so that checks out

same with bleeding hollow

[thorn plover]

yeah bleeding hollow is getting dc too

[urban kestrel]

we had to manually call out lura symbols cause chat takes 2 minutes to pop up

[half latch]

Do you guys keep lifebloom on yourselves in raid? Or do you have specific targets you give it to?

[urban kestrel]

pretty much send on self for every fight but maybe crown

and even then only on crown if you have like 2 or 3 melee

[half latch]

gotcha

[thorn plover]

self always

even crown

[half latch]

I'm replacing our rdruid (i believe permanently), I'm figuring out the midnight gameplay basically on the spot, hence the questions 🫠

I don't know how I feel about the whole back and forth between rejuv and regrowth spam

[thorn plover]

LB and 2 rejuvs on yourself always, swiftmend on yourself always

[half latch]

Oh even swiftmend huh

[thorn plover]

yes to extend the lb and 2 rejuvs

on CD, every time

[half latch]

Oh right, that makes a lot of sense

Is that still going to trigger the everbloom thingy?

Oh it's when you consume soul of the forest nvm

I will keep that routine in mind and build the muscle memory 😄

[topaz nest]

you could also do an @self macro for lb and sm for the supremely lazy

[half latch]

That's actually what I did for lb