resto

[spark river]

Nice

[bronze meadow]

bet thank you, nobody wantd to answer so I'm glad I got the right info

[formal fjord]

I saw mine never going over 12 so I didnt even know that was a thing

[solid hemlock]

is it a setting to show more or did I just space tf out? lol

[rare badger]

Ohhh i bet

Yeah thats what my guild does in heroic

What i do is put my SR on the weakest crystal wearer just to make it a bit easier. But yeah what @cunning parcel Said is very true, just forcefeed em hots

[rustic copper]

Yeah we’ve wiped to that on mythic

And then we fix the markers for the next pull

[rare badger]

It must suck wiping that far in a pull

[half star]

Are they not just the 4 cardinal directions or am I losing it… it’s just the arrows on the ground (which are the cardinal directions)?

X star circle skull

[rare badger]

We usually just make a rough "cross" shape near markers and call it a day so orbs are broken somewhat evenly

Thats for heroic tho

[wary belfry]

Heroic is painful trying to explain to everyone to not follow orbs

[fierce isle]

Love that they put crit on all the leather gear for the new spore fall raid

[wary belfry]

You always have people chasing the orbs so annoying

[rare badger]

Dont you have to chase em? Big damage if you miss

[wary belfry]

no you just stand on the marker and they come to you

Well if ur group is chasing then you gotta and that makes the mech that much harder but w/e

On heroic the third one is slightly to the left of marker

[kind star]

heeey finally the hero crest achievement, so the myth crest one is 285 ilvl or something right?

[wary belfry]

Yes

[lyric surge]

285 ilvl and everything at least 276

[kind star]

sweet alt will eat well soon

is there a way to toggle off automatically wearing the profession equipment in town

[sudden rover]

yeah there is

next to the profession npc in silvermoon there is a tauren

talk to that bitch

[kind star]

the other day I was tripping for like 10minute trying to figure out why my transmog wasnt showing on my weapon 😂

[rustic copper]

we had I think 6 p4 wipes

you have no idea

(that is very high)

[kind star]

lu'ra hc prog time, erhm I mean kill time.... D:

[mystic crater]

good luck

[kind star]

17% last week, just gotta have people turn their monitor on in p1 and dodge glaives <.<

[wary belfry]

i love watching people run with the beam

they could survive if they just stopped

and let beam go past them

or better yet, run against it

|| or forbidden tech, not be in the beam to begin with ||

[rare badger]

ohh gotcha thats pretty cool

[radiant narwhal]

how many p3 wipes

[gentle nova]

P4 is a joke with gear

[rustic copper]

A normal amount Idr

We hit p3 for the first time and killed 2 raid nights after I think

[radiant narwhal]

yikes

[rare badger]

bro said yikes, do NOT ask me how many wipes i have on h lu'ara

[radiant narwhal]

yikes as in im way more than that haha

[hearty coral]

guys i have 1425 haste and 1087 mastery should i start stacking crit strike now ????????

[grand herald]

YES

[rare badger]

ohhh lolll

@rustic copper what should i replace MS with?

LL or EOTD?

[dry valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487043392115703834/1507182193888329838/image.png?ex=6a10f84d&is=6a0fa6cd&hm=c12174de7dddbd5743b69dae2bd040aa92461b2b5d218c999ba5ebbfcc770019&

I made it to #13 as boomkin, do i reroll guys?

[marsh prism]

good

[rustic copper]

Both are fine, I play liveliness, embrace might be better if you are pressing more wg on shorter fights and pressing spread rejuvs

But holy fuck

You took reforestation over photo

Holy molyyyyyy

[rare badger]

https://klipy.com/gifs/holy-moly-3--k01KS6JN8BG805DP0Y3CKVEV193

[rare badger]

photo?

[rustic copper]

run this build exactly

[rare badger]

oh photosynthesis

[rustic copper]

maintain lifebloom and 2 rejuvs on yourself with 100% uptime, especially the lb should never fall off

cast sm on cd

follow up every swiftmend with a rejuv cast

go for the high score of regrowth casts

[rare badger]

look man ive been running kotg since the first week of s1 give me a change lol

[rare badger]

that i try to do

[rustic copper]

this is mine from my last paladins

do that properly and you will do 50% more hps

at least

[rare badger]

i always have lifebloom and at least 1 rejuv on me at all times

[rustic copper]

2 rejuvs

[spark river]

64 cpm holy

[rustic copper]

this log is pefect 100% uptime

was up before the fight started and never fell off

[rare badger]

not too bad lol

my LB uptime on lu'ara kill

[rare badger]

that i also do but i need to spam more regrowth

100% uptime on my rejuv tho xD

[radiant narwhal]

HOLY

[radiant narwhal]

looks almost as bad as mine

@rustic copper rate my deep p3 pull x

[rare badger]

yuh, im still learning this shi lol

[rustic copper]

not enough

wayyy more rg

[gentle nova]

Thats some 3 expansions ago level of play

Holy moly

[rare badger]

ive been healing since the end of tww s3 lol

so yeah

checks out

[rustic copper]

my most recent lura

harder to plant and spam

[rare badger]

somehow i still outheal my fellow heals consistently

[radiant narwhal]

I think my ramp timings are just bad

[rustic copper]

but it can be done

[rare badger]

dont ask me how

[radiant narwhal]

I reckon my P2 ruins my casts

[rustic copper]

because you are heroic raiding

[rare badger]

true that lol

i aint good enough for mythic

[rustic copper]

you can beat them by so much more

[radiant narwhal]

P2 breakdown

[rare badger]

yall sleeping on kotg ong

[grand herald]

lol

[rare badger]

i love being a big fat purple tree

oh shit interesting... when i cast rejuv on someone, if they have a regrowth on them it will boost the duration of it

i assume you probably dont touch any dps abilities right?

[rustic copper]

no

[rare badger]

oh there we go i found my cpm shit

[rare badger]

maybe i read that wrong

this is my lu'ara

ok so far my rejuv cpm looks close to you, i need to up my rg cpm by a shit ton tho

holy shit i cast WG wayyy too much

[rustic copper]

you can cast it as much as mana affords

which is much less on longer fights

[rare badger]

if i check your stuff you cast like 10, i had 32 casts

[rustic copper]

starfire

[rare badger]

instant cast procs

with kotg

im not THAT stupid

wait

why dont you have this shi on your build

[rustic copper]

because regrowth duration goes crazy

[rare badger]

im trusting you

trying this shit on h belo'ren rn

[kind star]

10%! so close ugh

[rare badger]

before the wipe i was sitting at 150k hps....

usually i sit around 100k for that fight x_x

[kind star]

I be pumpin on lura, surely next pull after break!(heroic only but casual guild)

[hard loom]

guys max rank myth heart of wind with shards or max rank locus ribbon with shards?

[glossy holly]

HoW trinket ofc

ribbon is semi good but mostly shines in raid content, but if u mainly do raiding, then boost ribbon instead

[hard loom]

❤️

[rare badger]

my shit is wrong i think xD

i did an extra 10k hps tho

[glossy holly]

EB top1 heal

well that is something

[rare badger]

right? x_x

im Aêrîth btw

i think im cooked chat EB top1 heal thats like glue sniffer core

[glossy holly]

well not terribly cooked compared to partners in raids apparently

just spam rejuvs until 12 abundance stacks and then spam RG in raids

while keeping LB and 2 rejuvs on yourself

thats all there is to it

well ofc swiftmends on yourself

[rare badger]

oh dont you worry i have 100% uptime on my rejuv most of the time

its the rg i stopped using

fixing that shit now lol

[glossy holly]

you know whats the funny thing

when u try to cast more RG

rejuvs drops a lot

[hard loom]

only spam to 12 abundance on a big healing window, forcing to 12 isnt really necessary

[rare badger]

yeah you can sit round 7-9 atleast imo

[radiant narwhal]

Everbloom is sometimes my top heal on M L’ura

It’s a good fight for it

[glossy holly]

well i've ever saw this 12 abundance as generic rule in raid

never something as ''its flexible and only related to high dmg scenes''

but im not huge raider

works well enough at chim boss

[bronze meadow]

anyone have HoTTracker, you know how to go past 12 rejuvs?

[kind star]

10% still meh

[bronze meadow]

I haven't tested it in actual raid so I'm curious if it goes past by default but

[marsh prism]

it does because it counts rejuvs

not abundance

unrelated clip i was just watching with it visible: https://www.twitch.tv/im_nance/clip/BlueLightFlyTwitchRaid-hR7KCfELoe_Qu7k2

[bronze meadow]

okay bet tysm

[fervent path]

aight

what do you do for belo egg phase

[kind star]

lets fkg go

finally

[marsh prism]

convoke like midwayish through

[fervent path]

enter with 12 abundance and spam rw and wg>convoke

[kind star]

out of this nightmare

[fervent path]

okie i was sending a little early then

[kind star]

hehe

[fervent path]

beast

[fervent path]

do you refresh rejuv only with SM there? i feel like im running out of mana atp

like i enter intermish with 150k i think

and leave with nothing

prob over rejuving

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AvM8pc2qBTa49fQj?fight=13&type=healing

this was latest pull

well this pull in particular i think i left egg phase with ok ammounts of mana idk

cause i will send 2nd inner starting p2 anyways to redot

[marsh prism]

your disc is not pulling enough

independent of whatever you are doing

[kind star]

welp I dont think this guild will do alot more now after aotc

[fervent path]

aight i can speak to him later but any glaring mistakes on my part?

im not currently rostered as healer so im just taking this as an oportunity to learn

im gonna main healer next season

most very likely resto

rdruid slaps

[marsh prism]

ill look after im done this delve

[fervent path]

ty ❤️

[vital crystal]

Is there a macro for Rebirth (Brez) that targets a dead guy in the party and starts casting Rebirth? instead of having to click them

[marsh prism]

no

[radiant narwhal]

Nance my friend how was last night

[kind star]

Oh lol I got a 95 even tho I played like shit

[vital crystal]

[marsh prism]

crystal carrier prog

but i had funu

[marsh prism]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2777337424

[radiant narwhal]

very good very good

wait thats hilarious

how does that even happen

[marsh prism]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2777341716

|| eye beam ||

ok lemme look at this beloren log properly

[radiant narwhal]

we managed 8% P3 wipe

so hopefully dies wednesday

[marsh prism]

i SAW

@fervent path unbind ns from convoke it doesnt do that interaction any longer

[proven phoenix]

I think you should play 2 minute convoke on beloren

[marsh prism]

ya you convoke a little too early but probably when you notice needing healing, your disc should be covering the front half of the intermission

from the replay at least your instincts look generally fine (otherwise)

[proven phoenix]

dont use reck pot in the intermission with lust

reck pot with lust is way overkill

if you really want to pot intermission use lights potential

[thorn plover]

The aoe right after intermission is more scary than intermission

I moved mine there

[marsh prism]

i dont think thats realistic for 3h

[balmy scaffold]

Best way for resto druid to heal up the crystals on L'ura? Hard focus one or spread hots then regrowth spam? Worth to switch LB to one of them?

[marsh prism]

be ramped and regrowth ont hem, can also chuck a ns + regrowth

no switch lb honestly i was rejuvingx2 one during early prog but i wasnt even doing that last night but you could

i ironbark one on second set for rh

[radiant narwhal]

I usually lb > regrowth a separate one > regrowth the 3rd one > WG > swiftmend > NS regrowth

usually topped with that

[marsh prism]

ok im done with voidcoring my good weapons

[proven phoenix]

you dont need to lb or wg

well depends on how much crystal healing you need

regrowth all 3, spam regrowth on one

is all I did

[glass crane]

innervate a hpal and ignore them

[proven phoenix]

also true

[willow marlin]

did anyone else have trouble with dispells on paladins?

i'm spamming and its not dispelling

[marsh prism]

correct macro? correct keybind?

[fervent path]

aight raid night ended

didnt go too bad

[fickle garden]

Well it ended so that sounds pretty bad

[fervent path]

not sad cause it ended

happy that it happened

[willow marlin]

yes and yes. it works like 25% of attempts

[fervent path]

[marsh prism]

dad you need to sober up please

[proven phoenix]

if its correct macro correct keybind it wouldnt be working 25% of attempts

[summer igloo]

wasn't there some bug with auto-switching specs when entering instances that made dispel mouseovers not work?

[willow marlin]

But then my name wouldn’t make sense 🙁

[hearty coral]

log review time are there any super duper druids who are bored

also should we post one pull or like a set

[rustic copper]

Press more regrowth

Review completed

[hearty coral]

i had more regrowth than rejuv

BRO

which is actually nutty for me tbh

[rustic copper]

You post 1

I’m Bedg

[hearty coral]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cLT91WzBtKrfbGVY?type=healing&fight=32

think i missed a couple swifties on this one

[grand herald]

who r u?

[hearty coral]

Saeliana

[grand herald]

SM more

mana going down so fast, even with MS

you could easily run embrace on that fight and be fine mana wise

[prime ridge]

What are the raid frames the majority are using? Is it Dander's and Default Blizz frames?

I always used the ElvUI frames, but I feel like since Midnight it's missing alot

[hearty coral]

im using grid and the qelive profile

[gaunt willow]

Danders is very good

[mystic crater]

What do you feel Elvui is missing?

[prime ridge]

On Paladins Mythic for example, I was missing a lot of the dispells because the frame is not colored as a dispellable debuff, but also for other encounters like Averzian. This is one thing I'm currently annoyed about.

[mystic crater]

My elvui worked with paladins in everything I needed

[prime ridge]

I see debuffs, but the health bar is not colored and therefore marked as dispellable like it's for other debuffs.

Or like it was before midnight

Idk if thats a setting I'm missing or an ElvUI thing

[mystic crater]

Sounds like you haven’t configured it how you want

[prime ridge]

Idk what I need to configure if it's working for some debuffs, but than in this case it doesnt

[mystic crater]

It’s similar in how every other raid frames in configurability, so if it’s not working how you want, it’s either you missing some settings or you’re trying to work with private auras which need special consideration, but my frames changed colour when there were dispels to do

So it does sound like either I’m missing what you mean or you’re missing a setting

You can also get your raid to use NS and m33kauras to assign dispels if you want to as well

[normal tinsel]

the Paladin dispel seems like it got set to private aura again

It was working fine for me weeks prior, doesn't work for me this week.

[mystic crater]

Ah that would do it, we didn’t do paladins this week

Nothing to do with raid frames in that case

[prime ridge]

I assume it would work on Danders/Blizz frames? Heard from guildies they still see health bars being colored if dispellable

[mystic crater]

You can change how Elvui shows private auras too, but private auras are just annoying in general

[normal tinsel]

Yeah I had to check the other healer discords and people were saying they're UI also wasn't doing the glow for the dispels anymore either this week and I know for sure it was working just a few weeks ago and I didn't fuck with my UI.

[mystic crater]

You can switch if you want to to one of those, I still run with Elvui and it’s been consistently working for me, but like blizzard is constantly just screwing with healers by randomly changing things to being unreadable and whatnot

It’s just frustrating

[normal tinsel]

Yep

[mystic crater]

It’s most likely trying to break NS’s assigning dispels thing if they made it private

[prime ridge]

Can I change it in a way that it shows the glow/colored health bar if dispellable?

It's all so annoying since midnight

[mystic crater]

I’m not at my computer so I can’t really help too much, sorry about that

But yes, blizzard has been very annoying with their decision making since midnight

[desert kelp]

14 MGT timed at 246

[onyx trail]

gzz get some gear lil gup

[trail crown]

I should really start pushing higher than 10 at 278

[dire hinge]

I did 13 spire and holy theres a lot of dmg

[stable verge]

I mean it's all relative ? I don't think there should be that much. You have a few sections of unavoidable damage but it's not Seat level of healing required

[haughty ibex]

WS so annoying to heal tho

[spark river]

go play keeper then

[haughty ibex]

i think that’s the angle…

ill make yt vid about it

[spark river]

put me in the thumbnail

[marsh prism]

perfect youtube video already made no need

https://youtu.be/YhjIs2Htzdc

[real carbon]

Good morning folks. how do I use the data from https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/druid-restoration/chimaerus-the-undreamt-god to have notes in-game that warn me in text and audibly of the cooldown timings for maximum output? Assume there's no officer coordinating the cooldowns in the group. This is for personal use.

[spark river]

You want to export the cds from lorrgs and import them to a personal remindr

[real carbon]

I found how to copy it, you have to hover over the person's name and then use MRT.

How do I set up audio queues?

[marsh prism]

i dont think you get audio queues any more do you

[spark river]

You enable tts and change character name in the reminder to yourself

[real carbon]

This on MRT?

[spark river]

I use northern sky but it is also doable in mrt as far as im aware

I dont know about audio queues, but you can get tts to tell you like tranquility in 15 etc

[real carbon]

What tts exactly? Blizzard's default?

[spark river]

I am talking about how it works in northern sky for me

[real carbon]

Also since I have you, northern sky is probably responsible for me sometimes getting audio and text queues 'forced' upon me by random raid leads right? I sometimes get notes in pugs that I certainly didn't set up.

Right, so northern sky has a tts function, got you.

[vivid peak]

You can hide notes you don't want to get tts from

Iirc only visible ones output tts

[real carbon]

Can I make it so I prevent other people from forcing notes upon me, and only my own show up?

[spark river]

You can disable shared note and only use personal

[real carbon]

I play with a lot of differnet people with poorly set up northern sky tools

[vivid peak]

There's a button accept from trusted people only

[real carbon]

Will this disable L'ura memory game notes?

[spark river]

I would like to say no, but I have no idea tbh

[real carbon]

Very good, thank you

I've successfully imported the notes and set only personal notes to be displayed. How do I test the notes in town, to see if they're being displayed correctly? I assume it's possible?

[marsh prism]

@bright swift log in we practicing

[kind star]

reporting for using combat tracker

[marsh prism]

dude this guy is going to be so fucking fun.

[kind star]

I havent played dawntrail at all

[real carbon]

I'm so jealous, wish I could play the game

[kind star]

what job u main?

[marsh prism]

i heal so whatever but usually sage

[kind star]

was a WHM enjoyer, been wanting to play lately but then id have to get thru the msq...!

[agile wasp]

Does nature's swiftness not work with convoke anymore?

[haughty ibex]

no

[marsh prism]

yeah look im proponent #1 for quicker onboarding into current endgame (while also loving the story)

i was hoping theyd have a solution coming with evercold but i guess not

i will be streaming ulti prog 3 days a week so feel free to follow and tune in

[kind star]

how far did yall get in that fight so far? saw that one pull near 50% ish and then had to answer a client at work.

[marsh prism]

still working on p2

we did this last time with uhh whatever fatebreaker and then whatever shivas eden fight was just to see the major mechanics, snapshotting, what they look like and generally how to solve

didnt get p2 down minilvl but np huge big good practice sesh

[kind star]

looks tough around the 60% mark

think the last thing ive raided was like huh e8s I think on NIN

[bright swift]

Nah lmao

[kind star]

gonna have to re-sub at some point and level meh I remember logging in after DT launch doing 5MSQ and unsubbing D:

[thorn plover]

Gm

[kind star]

mornin' we finally killed lura hc yesterday thank god

thinking I might be done with this casual guild, lots of ppl with no enchants, no voidcore upgraded gear and what not. Kinda yikes.

[distant birch]

Thats a main issue with more casual guilds tbh

[fervent mica]

nothing wrong with wanting to play with people who put in the same amount of effort

[kind star]

yeah just hate looking for random guilds but at least ive got aotc/decent logs ish

[fervent mica]

just post in the recruitment discord with your aspirations and current prog

you will likely get spammed with options

[kind star]

Oh there's a recruitment disc i always went on some website and applied/posted what im lf

[fervent mica]

raider io has a recruitment thing too, but i got much more/better responses on the disc

[kind star]

Sweet thanks!

[thorn plover]

Yeah the recruitment discord is the way to go

Or look in group finder for "guild", sometimes you find guilds progging that are fighting the roster boss. I found my guild on tww that way

[kind star]

this one ?

[fervent mica]

yuh

assuming you're NA

[kind star]

yeah

[spark river]

Whats a roster boss even this tier

Crown?

Depends on the guilds level i guess

[fervent mica]

i could see people getting stuck on dragons or pallies

[thorn plover]

Roster boss has nothing to do with bosses

I mean sometimes

[spark river]

In general

[thorn plover]

Recruiting in those mid level myth guilds is hard, I've been there

It's pretty easy to find a late CE guild if you have even half the bosses dead and decent logs

"stepping stone" guilds

[spark river]

For me the biggest problem with moving to another guild are the days when im available

I ve also had some situations where guilds simply dont want to change a healer

Even tho they are underwhelming

[distant birch]

All healers are great

[kind star]

got okay/decent logs hard to parse on heroic with 4 healers :/

[fervent mica]

"the best ability is availablility" is a big problem in guilds at that level

[fervent mica]

you'll probably be looking for a guild thats still progging fairly early bosses

get your feet wet with myth raiding, can always move on if you don't like them

[thorn plover]

Thormy are you NA

[thorn plover]

Yeah that part is tough. When I joined this guild I wasn't even sure the times were going to work, but it's actually been decent. Through summer it will suck tho, they raid early

[fervent mica]

they said yeah

[thorn plover]

I'd like to raid a 3rd day, but I can only add Monday. Not too many guilds raiding MTW in NA

[kind star]

yeah

[fervent mica]

i went from t/t 2.5 hours per night to t/w/t 3 hours per after my old guild fell apart. its a lot

[thorn plover]

I'm t/w 3 hours. It's good, especially this tier where all except last 2 are pretty easy

Most bosses have only been 1 night prog. Paladins was 3 I think

[kind star]

raiding mop on fridays and thats about it, well this raids only 1d on thursday.

alot of dead weights tho kinda cba anymore, think they only wanna try like chim and its a big MAYBE.

[grizzled seal]

It's hard to every level unless you are willing to just accept warm bodies

[fading fossil]

Any log divers free to look at a salad kill for me?

[spark river]

i can in like 5 minutes, but im sure someone else will also take a look

just post the log

[fading fossil]

Cool ty. Please evaluate and lmk what aliib could do better. This was day 2 of prog for the guild. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2xZBAaCrc4gjbzRT?fight=8

[fervent mica]

which one are we supposed to be looking at

[fading fossil]

Aliib^

[spark river]

more regrowth cpm, more overall cpm, reck pot

Swiftmend yourself every time with lb and 2x rejuv, always renew lb in pandemic, dont miss on convoke usages, wg before convoke, bigger tranq ramps

play liveliness instead of embrace imo

[kind star]

ah frick I forgot to swap off from ms yesterday

[fervent mica]

~1/5th of your swiftmends were on other targets not extending on yourself

[fading fossil]

Okay cool, I can def work on those. Just curious about the throughput difference between embrace and liveliness

MS is pretty useless to me

[fervent mica]

when you drop ms you start to cast less wgs to conserve mana, which lowers value on embrace slightly

also, 5 min fight so mana isn't really a thing

[fading fossil]

Yeah, I don’t talent MS because I find myself not running oom ever

[spark river]

you dont need ms but in general you are not pressing enough buttons so you end the fight on 30% mana

[molten elk]

If someone has time to take a look at a log, I would appreciate it 🙂

This is my guild's first paladins kill. Other than trying to regrowth more are there any obvious spots for improvement?

I certainly didn't play perfectly. Are we in a spot where parsing well with 6 healers isn't reasonable?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9GFKJxmdjgawTbkq?fight=4&type=healing&source=1

[fading fossil]

Thanks for clarifying the talent swap

[fleet jewel]

6 heal

[spark river]

you wont need ms on fights under 8 minutes but you are still very low on overall cpm which is why you have mana

[fervent mica]

that would be the biggest improvement... having less healers. lol

[molten elk]

(I tried selling them on 5)

[fading fossil]

Makes sense lol. What’s the “target”cpm

[fervent mica]

you ended the fight on ~35% mana. really don't need MS

[spark river]

at least above 50, most myth druids are 55-60

[molten elk]

I was thinking this. Iirc pot and innervate came up just before the end of the fight, but I was pretty low before that

[fervent mica]

the lowest you got was 22

[fading fossil]

Cool, good to know. I’ll work on that, appreciate the feedback all.

[spark river]

fix regrowth cpm, renewing lb in pandemic and you need bigger tranq ramps other than the first one

[fleet jewel]

you should also use a potion for throughput, mana pots are pretty bad

[spark river]

mana pots are very bad

use reck pot

[fleet jewel]

[spark river]

[molten elk]

What is the ideal regrowth CPM? Like 20?

Running back the TWW S3 resto shaman plan?

Also, who is the best target for symbiotic on crown? I've been throwing it on the tank who is split from the rest of the raid

[thorn plover]

Someone squishy. Doesn't much matter

[spark river]

Yeah 20 cpm is a good number to aim for

[thorn plover]

I thought it was 31

[spark river]

thats the regrowth cpm niko aims for

[thorn plover]

Hard cap 31 regrowth cpm DR break point

[molten elk]

Does the math even math to keep up abundance stacks and cast 4-5 swiftmends per minute with 31 CPM on regrowth?

[frosty canyon]

regrowth takes 1.1s to cast, 4-5 SM's is 4-5s of GCD

I don't see why not

[fervent path]

why does NSRT notes break on phase change? even if I pull from lorrgs with NSRT enabled it breaks

does it have to be dynamic in that case ?

[rustic copper]

Yes

[fervent path]

what would the aproximate cpm on rejuv be in that case?

[kind star]

I have that issue with lura notes

they all only shows ph1 so no trigger during intermission,p2 and p3

[rustic copper]

20

[frosty canyon]

16-20

but Niko knows more than me

[fervent path]

aight so in theory what I need is to keep rejuv cpm in check and then maximize RG from that

[frosty canyon]

seems much easier to just know to rejuv to 10-12 and regrowth until 6-7

abundance stacks

[molten elk]

Yeah, assuming 31 regrowth, 4.5 swiftmend, and 3 wild growth it'd be around 19 if you pressed no other buttons

[fervent path]

yeah im doing that now

but i sometimes over rejuv if i know damage is coming soon

maybe its pointless

unless tranqing

[frosty canyon]

should probably be regrowthing, even on full targets to spread cleave

[fervent path]

yeah i do rg on full hp but I do have a tendency to get to like 15+ abundance instead of stopping at 12

gotta fix that

[rustic copper]

Cpm usually refers to wcl cpm

Which double counts germ and counts sotf as 3

[frosty canyon]

oh interesting

[rustic copper]

Because there’s no other way to count cpm

[frosty canyon]

didn't realize that logic

makes sense

[grim totem]

sigh...maybe too late to resto druid to learn any of this lol

[fervent path]

i literally started playing resto last week

[frosty canyon]

not really bro

[fervent path]

just start lol

[rustic copper]

20 years too late how do you even catch up

[frosty canyon]

defeatist attitudes aren't conducive to a good life

[molten elk]

So counting SOTF as 3 4.5 times per minute you'd get like 28 rejuvs/minute, I think?

[grim totem]

lol mage for 20 years so i have no idea

[grim totem]

agreed but i'm still learning a lot of the abbreviations ya'll are using much less trying to figure out the right freakin' rotation so i'm not pulling a whopping 35k hps in raids or mythic+ lol

[frosty canyon]

yeah it'll take time, I get it

I still have to look at abbreviations using wowhead, it'll get easier

[kind star]

took me like a week where I had to constantly check talents to tell the abbreviations haha

[frosty canyon]

you're in the right place though

yup exactly lol

[grim totem]

and with so many sites showing different builds or BiS ..i'm trying to kind of just mix match the average

[frosty canyon]

the creator of the wowhead guide is in this discord

use that, and questionably epic also his site

good starting points, the latter has a "most common mistakes" type of guide

come back with questions

I find that learning the context of everything is like half the battle

[thorn plover]

Because lorrgs phases are different than nsrt phases

They're incompatible when using dynamic timers

Use wowutils

[kind star]

I couldnt figure where to get notes on wowutils

[thorn plover]

You have to make them

It doesn't spit them out like lorrgs does, from others logs

[kind star]

ooh lame nvm then

[thorn plover]

It's very little effort

[sudden rover]

theres not a tmog channel on this discord right? or im blind

[kind star]

I guess I just copy whats on lorrgs in there manually

[thorn plover]

Yes you can do that

Takes literally 30 seconds

But for fights that are HP based instead of time you need to keep that in mind

[fervent path]

aight i will

[kind star]

im just not 100% familiar with the aoe damage event yet so its been a great help

Ik it wasnt aligning with the aoe on lu'ra for p1, like 5s ish delay

[grim totem]

ok so i understand this right....as resto druid i gotta learn how to dps in cat on top of healing?

[lyric surge]

it can

https://wowutils.com/viserio-cooldowns/raid/wcl/top?boss=Crown+of+the+Cosmos&difficulty=mythic

[thorn whale]

We also have the icyveins guide writer and the QE person in here too

[lyric surge]

you can also import a specific log like you can on lorrgs

@kind star

[frosty canyon]

yeah it's literally all the same guy

[kind star]

oh goated for my lazy ass.... :3

[lyric surge]

just click the WCL icon button on the left side to access everything

Top Rankings is like lorrgs, Import is for pulling in a specific log

[kind star]

sweet tyvm, im ngl I didnt press all the side buttons thought it would redirect to warcraft log website.. :3

[grim totem]

Sorry for the questions

[lyric surge]

tbh I don't get why they don't just update lorrg's to work for nsrt.. that's the main way of displaying those notes now I thought.

[spark river]

For keys catweaving has always been a part of our gameplay

[grim totem]

oh lord..ok

[thorn plover]

Yeah they really should. It will spit out an nsrt note, but it's still using phases from mrt, and for whatever reason, they're different

[thorn plover]

Sweet I didn't know this. Thanks

[stable verge]

Hey you can also throw a few wraths and stuff here and there and be fine until very high keys

[thorn plover]

not really, our dps means basically nothing. you will figure it out as you become comfortable. for now spec starfire/starsurge and just push that on trash when you can, and wrath/starsurge the boss when you can

it will come naturally as you learn the class and find yourself standing around with nothing to do

[rustic copper]

You will have to catweave when they hopefully buff it in the next patch

[thorn plover]

i sure hope they do that

[spark river]

Yeah I would still advise learning catweaving as early into the class as its possible

Its just the core gameplay of a druid

[grim totem]

i'm just so busy spamming freaking heals to keep people alive i wouldn't kno when to stop healing and let someone die to be able to catweave for dps lol

[thorn plover]

like i said, itll come as you figure out the class

[sudden rover]

looking at druids tmog on wowhead, any idea how that guy got his scythe of elune with that beautiful orange color?

[spark river]

We all are

No one said it was easy

[desert kelp]

3 keys 4 pieces of gear (not one in my name tho lol) running a full guild group of 280s has some benefits

[lyric surge]

well you're not supposed to let someone die to dps

[grim totem]

if it was easy i wouldn't be attempting it lol

[lyric surge]

there are points where you don't need to constantly spam though; you just have to learn when there isn't going ot be massive damage coming and how to top people efficiently when it does come

[steel bloom]

wowhead says sunkeeper's reach https://www.wowhead.com/guide/artifact-weapons/scythe-of-elune-balance-druid

[fervent citrus]

Ive found a funny build with Call of the Elder Druid and Cenarius Dream for healing while doing damage, no idea how good it actually is

[thorn plover]

yeah thats not new

its why this screenshot exists

[kind star]

goddamn dorki

[fervent citrus]

😂

Is it really that bad

[bright swift]

Yes

People are just ass at playing it tbh

You can't rely solely on it

[rustic copper]

Does it increase dmg

Or are you just -2 points

[grizzled seal]

You cast starfires instead of healing spells for some time so probably increases overall

[rustic copper]

Gg

[spark river]

It does more damage but not nearly enough to justify sacking 10% healing

[rustic copper]

Aoe pad + lose 2 real talents

[spark river]

weekly key sorta thing

[rustic copper]

Ain’t no way

[lyric surge]

it heals fine in large aoe packs for like 10s every minute while coted is up.. after that you have to use normal healing to keep ppl up when there's damage. Guessing most ppl are just tryign to continue starfire spam for healing when coted wears off

[trim bluff]

bro I swear that week that magic build came out you had these fucking rdruids pulling up after seeing one Chinese log and they cast starfire while the entire fucking team dies

HEAL MY FUCKING CHARACTEE

[oblique pasture]

I'm having an odd issue. Sometime during my mythic plus runs, my NS/Regrowth macro just stops working. I have the macro set through Danders, mapped to a mouse button. When it stops working, it acts just like NS is on cooldown and just tries to cast a normal Regrowth. I've tried to reload
and still nothing. It seems to be random. Some runs it doesn't do it at all. Once it starts though, it won't work again until I'm out of the group. Then it'll work. Here is the macro I have:
#showtooltip Regrowth
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast [@mouseover,help,nodead][help,nodead] Regrowth
I don't know if it is a Danders problem. Just want to see if anybody else has ran into the issue, or maybe I should use a different macro.

[rustic copper]

Based

[spark river]

there is a quick fix

delete the macro

[rustic copper]

Add /cqs to the end of your macro, my guess is you are queueing a regrowth

[oblique pasture]

Can I use NS/RG without a macro?

[oblique pasture]

Ok, I'll try that, thanks!

[spark river]

I ve always felt that a macro for ns + rg is kinda pointless

[rustic copper]

Bro

You’re a noob confirmed

[spark river]

I press 2 buttons instead of a macro

noob confirmed

[rustic copper]

Yes

Because pressing 2 buttons is slower than 1

[fierce isle]

Natures swiftness is off the GCD so when I want to NS I just hit shift 2 (NS) in between my ctrl left click (regrowth) spam.

[rustic copper]

Have you considered

[spark river]

Well idk im just weird because i did have it macroed with convoke

but ns regrowth was always 2 buttons for me

[kind star]

shift+x NS into 5 for regrowth are my binds

[rustic copper]

Fix it

[fierce isle]

What do you use for rejuv?

[rustic copper]

Man if I was on my pc rn

I’d ask for logs

Because that’s some dogshit

[fierce isle]

I’ve never used numbers to cast non cd spells

[rustic copper]

Criminal

[fierce isle]

lol Niko

[rustic copper]

I have regrowth on left click and NS regrowth on mouse 5

[kind star]

.....G

1 is wrath,2 SM,3 WG

too used to this logic on my spells to change tbh

[rustic copper]

Change it

It doesn’t take that long to learn new binds

Those binds are unplayable

[fierce isle]

I have all my cds on shift 1-5 for all classes. Shorter cds on 2/3 since I hit them more regularly and they’re easier to hit. 4/5 for longer cds.

For rdruid I use shift 1 for shadowmeld, shift 2 for natures swiftness, shift 3 for innervate self macro, 4 for Tranq, 5 for HOTW etc.

[kind star]

and change all my binds on other toons idk... and not really unplayable for me personally, idk where id even put ns anyways

[rustic copper]

Check your cast sequence on any boss

And compare it to a skilled player

[severe shoal]

there any discords to help find a m+ team?

[rustic copper]

Like look very closely for gaps between casts

[spark river]

recruitment one has an m+ section also

[fierce isle]

Hitting numbers for spells you cast on cd seems crazy for me as your fingers are always going to be shifting off your movement keys.

[rustic copper]

I guarantee you cannot have good casts with binds that bad

[fervent mica]

mythic plus friends

[rustic copper]

Especially for any movement

[fierce isle]

100%

[rustic copper]

I dodge Lura glaives without ever losing cast time

I play a seed on Lura intermission without losing casts

How do you do that with heals on 5

[kind star]

easy to move and hit 5 idk

[rustic copper]

Show your full casts tab and show your cast sequence at the start of intermission

[kind star]

maybe ill change some of them then I just dont know what id use instead id have to practice in tons of low keys

[thorn plover]

do you use clicked/clique or something similar

[kind star]

all natty mouseover macros

[thorn plover]

that was me until midnight

[hearty coral]

Now that you are awake niko o_O

[thorn plover]

changed everything, soooooo much better not using all mouseover macros

[grim totem]

I have the blizzard click cast set as well as keyboards but all mine are mouse button binds as I have 12 buttons on tge side of my mouse

[gentle nova]

Embrace is bait why are ppl recommending it

[thorn plover]

i cant play with those mmo mice

[gentle nova]

Yeah lets play the wg talent when you press wg 2 times a min

[grim totem]

Wg?

[thorn plover]

raid context btw

[thorn plover]

outside of lura and maybe crown, you can get 4 on every fight without going oom i think. im still taking livliness over it either way

[grim totem]

I'm still learning resto druid and all the abbreviations so apologies if I seem slow lol

[thorn plover]

wildgrowth

[grim totem]

Ah ty

[kind star]

clique always felt weird never liked it much idk

[thorn plover]

its literally just mouseover macros

[kind star]

but I feel like im better off focusing on playing well

[thorn plover]

without the performance issues

[kind star]

than redoing my bars and what not

[gentle nova]

And how much is embrace giving you

3%

[thorn plover]

i dont take it but its 3%

[gentle nova]

thats already worse than liv

[hearty coral]

I'm not touching embrace since I'm not using 4 PC for raid

[thorn plover]

that too

[grim totem]

Wait why not use 4 piece

[gentle nova]

Cause its shit

[thorn plover]

because you arent pressing WG on cooldown, so its pointless

[rustic copper]

Now I’m on my phone

[hearty coral]

I pressed wg like 9 times in that log only at times I felt it was necessary I think it was like 2cpm

And I still got like 9% from it

4 PC wasn't changing that

[thorn plover]

you should press it as much as you can still of course

but its what controls your mana pool mostly

[rustic copper]

I accidently killed Lura with 1p

[thorn plover]

lmao

[rustic copper]

Do I just drop to 0?

[hearty coral]

Tf

[grim totem]

OK so if 4pc isn't bis. I'm lost as to waht to replace it with haha

[thorn plover]

i think helm is best haste mast

[gentle nova]

Respectfully if you are asking this you should not care

[grim totem]

Oh ik

Ok

[thorn plover]

its a tiny difference, i wouldnt worry about it

[hearty coral]

[grim totem]

Sorry.

[thorn plover]

no dont be sorry, good to ask

[sudden rover]

never apologize for asking questions wtf

the guys are here for this

[spark river]

We are ?

[rustic copper]

I’m here to spread misinformation to advance my own goals

[spark river]

Im just here to be toxic

[grand herald]

thats more like the rdruid channel i know

[kind star]

Now trying to figure new binds smh

[rustic copper]

Yes click binds

Rejuv on right click regrowth on left click, I’ve got dispel on control left click

[kind star]

Ill give it a try ig

[rustic copper]

The requirement is you need to be able to cast your heals while pressing your wasd movement keys

[grizzled seal]

regrowth on scroll wheel is the best keybind

[rustic copper]

There’s a lot of flexibility

[hearty coral]

I switched to left and right click for regrowth and rejuv this season it's very nice

[grizzled seal]

idk how you played in TWW without scroll wheel regrowth

[kind star]

Rip all the ppl in my few next keys

Gonna suck badly

[rustic copper]

[grand herald]

i still just use mouseover

[spark river]

got baited by niko

a classic

[grand herald]

click casting weird to me :^)

[kind star]

Same

[fierce isle]

Scroll wheel sounds crazy I need to try it.

[fierce isle]

Dude left click rejuv is life

[kind star]

Mostly always played classic and that wasn't needed much, bosses are snoozefest.

But im down to try and optimize

[grand herald]

rejuv is 3 and no one can change my mind

[spark river]

how does one optimise personal preference

[kind star]

I meant more the fact my rg is on 5

[rustic copper]

[kind star]

And it can be weird on movement abit

[rotund geode]

I right click rejuv

Am I alone

[grand herald]

well, rg and movement dont go together anyways :^)

[spark river]

you re stutter stepping when you regrowth on movement anyway

[grand herald]

but yeah, 5 is a keybind i use for stuff with a cd usually

its my WG

[kind star]

Its always been my main heal

My Vivify on monk is shift+x

[grand herald]

bro has 1-4 and decided 5 is best

[rustic copper]

That’s mine

[rotund geode]

We rejuv bro

[kind star]

1-4 is always my dmg spells usually

[grand herald]

well, there is your issue

[spark river]

I have rejuv on 4 and regrowth on r and there isnt a way that i d unlearn those binds ever

[grand herald]

why do you have keybinds dedicated to damage :^)

my 1-4 is dmg and healing

[rotund geode]

Right click rejuv, alt right swiftmend, ctrl right lifeblood, shift left regrowth and ctrl left wild growth

Leaving my best life

Shift right swiftmend *

[grand herald]

SM/Starsurge on 1, RG/Wrath on 2, RJ/Starfire on 3, LB/Rake on 4

[kind star]

Because I never used those macros that combine harm/help

[grand herald]

giving up prime real estate for damage spells on a healer is rough

[rustic copper]

wtf same

[rotund geode]

We are bind bro bro

[kind star]

Ill take some time and swap some binds

[rotund geode]

I swear having so much binds on mouse makes this shit so easy

[lucid token]

So in general we shouldn’t swiftmend the LB target?

[lyric surge]

for raids, you always want to SM the LB target

[rustic copper]

In raids you should have 100% uptime on lifebloom rejuv and germination on yourself and every single swiftmend cast should be cast on yourself

[kind star]

muh binds, just got clique xdd time to swap it up

[fierce isle]

I tried to standardize heal types across healers so my key binds are very similar.

Left click: instant cast heal for movement (rejuv, renew, riptide, holy shock, etc.)
Left ctrl: fast strong heal (regrowth, flash heal)
Left shift: AoE heal (wild growth, PoH, Chain heal)
Left Alt: slow efficient heals (mostly empty now, but used to be used for healing touch, heal,

Middle: tend to be utility or rarely cast skills (Symb link, Beacon, earth shield)
Mid ctrl: External (ironbark, sacrifice)
Mid alt: personal defensive
Mid shift: movement external (roar, blessing of freedom)

Right: big strong single target spenders (wog, serenity, nothing for rdruid)
Right ctrl: dispel
Right shift: not easily categorical spells (lifebloom, power word shield etc)
Right alt: rotational heals with short cds (swiftmend, earth living, mending)

[kind star]

gonna take some getting used to but feels like it will help longterm or at least wont feel as weird spamming G while moving

[rustic copper]

Spamming g while moving

[kind star]

it aint too bad I move left/right with A and D just gotta alternate fingers depending if I move left or right tho rofl

[spark river]

G is diabolical

[kind star]

sometimes its Q like my ReM on monk xd

oh danders does click-casting as well

[thorn plover]

yes thats what i use

its great

[kind star]

might as well use danders instead of adding yet another addon

[thorn plover]

yep

[kind star]

my PC doesnt quite like retail and im abit low on RAM for nowadays

prolly need a newer CPU too

[thorn plover]

proc is your bottleneck there for sure

wow is cpu heavy

[kind star]

it wasnt all that bad before but I change to an ultrawide curved monitor and its been even worse than before

so you think itd be fine just changing CPU then

[thorn plover]

ultrawide is crazy bad for performance lol

[kind star]

thought my main issue was ram, im not that good with that stuff.

[thorn plover]

yeah just your cpu and youll be golden

some good deal on ryzens rn i think

[whole horizon]

with the way Windows 11 is going i'd argue 32gb ram should be pretty standard soon

[kind star]

yeah

I upgraded my GPU and then wanted to get 32gb and well AI hapenned.

[whole horizon]

they're just adding as much bloat and telemetry as they possibly can and they want it always running in the background no matter what youre doing

[thorn plover]

windows 11 is wild how much bloat there is

[whole horizon]

pretty soon their OS will brick if you try stripping all the gaming malware they install for you

[thorn plover]

im running tiny11 and its amazing the performance increase

[whole horizon]

i havent considered alternatives aside from linux tbh

[thorn plover]

if youre ever doing a fresh OS, you should check it out

[kind star]

hmm interesting

im due to reformat my PC

[whole horizon]

i reformat every year so it might be the next one

good idea

[thorn plover]

tiny11 uses under 3gb ram and takes 8gb storage

[kind star]

I remember using some programs/commands to remove bloat with w10

[thorn plover]

that helps but theyre still "there"

[spice rock]

So stupid question maybe. Key level 17 shouldn't be TOO hard should it? Tried a magisters and people were absolutely dropping in 2 seconds. Some deaths wer due to missed inerrupts sure. But I have a hunter with glaive on him and I ironbarked and convoked and he still died

[kind star]

how do you manually target something when using click-casting? hmm some modifier on lclick or something?

[whole horizon]

they just get reinstalled during the next automatic update

[thorn plover]

things hurt for sure, but if you did 16s relatively easily, 17s arent much different

[thorn plover]

oh i dont use left click as a bind other than to select stuff so idk

[solemn sphinx]

Convoke isn't better than regrowth spam into a ST dot. Too much RNG.

Think of convoke as more of an aoe throughput CD

[spice rock]

16 resi and I don't remember the 16 being that hard. I did regrowth spam another time and my regrowth could not heal up against the glaive tick. But I think that time a bolt went off too

[kind star]

just trying to copy leaf binds logic he posted

[fervent path]

yeah Ill just hold a little longer

[spice rock]

Yeah I used convoke because 3 people had the glaive.

[thorn plover]

regrowth doesnt do much if you dont have rejuvs up

[solemn sphinx]

Try moving your lifebloom to the target when you see the glaive cast start

[thorn plover]

eww moving lifebloom

[fervent path]

thanks for taking your time to read my logs ^^ @marsh prism sorry I took so long to answer back

[spice rock]

Should only one person hav glaive?! We consistently had 2-3 people getting it

[fervent path]

work has been a bitch today

[thorn plover]

nah thats normal

[spice rock]

I was sacrificing at that point. I can see people popping CDs and then I know who to focus

[solemn sphinx]

2 is normal. If you're getting 3 the tank is probably doing an illegal pull

[spice rock]

Double pull in the corridor with 2 glaive fuckers

[thorn plover]

if youre not pulling the entire hallway what are you even doing? lol

im mostly kidding, that hallway is hell. but we do pull the entire thing on 16

[spice rock]

I'll do some more homework. But yeah the 16 didn't feel half as bad and that was weeks ago

[kind star]

how do you manually target something tho? trying to copy ur logic to test it

[spice rock]

we have a hell of a lot more gear now so you'd think it's about the same

[fierce isle]

I’m using a fork of Cell

[fervent path]

yeah im popping tranq right after intermish

[fierce isle]

But you could use Danders or pretty much anything that lets you program click cast

[fervent path]

ill move pot there

[thorn plover]

but if you use left click for a spell, how do you select things

is what theyre asking

[kind star]

yes im using danders one ig I just wont bind left click was curious how you target something manually like a boss etc.

[rustic copper]

I have target bound to mouse 4 and context menu on control right click, there’s lots of options for this especially since you never really need to do this in combat

[kind star]

I know its also preference just trying to see what people use

[rustic copper]

I am using danders + clique

[spice rock]

Thansk guys, I'll have a drink in the sun and think about my actions

[fervent path]

or maybe I could save Pot for 2nd egg Phase

[kind star]

man I need to get better at tracking all my bajilions subscriptions <.<

[glossy holly]

there is a reason i do not carelessly subscribe

[kind star]

bought dawntrail last FF14 expac, didnt level and quit been paying sub since then

[glossy holly]

[summer igloo]

everytime I see one of my like 3 subscriptions take my money I'm like "huh who are you again"

[glossy holly]

thats me when im reviewing my bank account spents

[summer igloo]

i keep wow on a 60 days game time diet because "okay but what if I buy one year and then quit tomorrow" (I haven't dropped my sub in literal years)

[thorn plover]

i only pay wow sub in gold

[kind star]

im too broke for that 😂

but its a me problem im just too lazy to farm stuff in wow.

[glossy holly]

would pay in gold too if there was actually easy way to earn 300k+ a month

other than selling boosts

[fervent path]

In my experience playing another sub based game, the moment I took a longer sub I dropped it

so maybe its something psychological with me

[gentle nova]

Yeah lemme farm 1 entire day for 300k or work 30 minutes to make 15 dollars

[fervent path]

been playing retail since late BFA and havent missed a month since

[summer igloo]

idk how ppl pull that off tbh
I farmed a good bit of azeroot at the start of the xpac but I don't know enough good movies to watch for a whole sub's worth

[glossy holly]

i farmed rare flowers during DF

doable but boring

[fervent path]

yeah farming is shitty

boosting is goated tho

[summer igloo]

we both got commitment issues i guess

[fervent path]

my ex would agree

[kind star]

welp guess ill play some FF14, wonder how long ill last doing MSQ before I quit.

[summer igloo]

ayo wait I've seen you

were you able get your private auras right? :'D

[summer igloo]

[glossy holly]

yea i did

though i suspect that old settings from DF expansion somehow overrode default settings

once i put their auras to upper spot they became incredibly small so proper size turned out to be 35-40 lol

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[livid hearth]

Any tips on being mana efficient?https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JfBDP87Xz6Nb3YCH?fight=9

Up until now i have just been holding 10+ abundance stacks entire run and as soon as i reach 10 i start spamming regrowths but im not sure, bit afraid i would go oom if i keep this entire heroic lura run

im elunnax and if i dont spam regrowth or ramp up to 10 i have nothing else to do as everyone else is max hp kinda

[thorn plover]

You need to regrowth more

doesnt matter if theyre full hp

[summer igloo]

oh that sounds weird
haven't seen that one, but glad you got it fixed

[livid hearth]

around what stack do u start regrowthing? i do it from 10 stacks

[glossy holly]

usually from 12, u start spamming rg

[lucid token]

What about for m+

[glossy holly]

its same but swiftmends are free to cast on others when needed ters

LB target also varies who is weakest

[glossy holly]

you honestly got rather unstable abundance stacks during the fight

u got some 5-7 abundances for period of times

so its no wonder if RG is little more mana expensive than usual

[thorn plover]

yeah your abundance is dipping too low for too long

[livid hearth]

ok ill try to keep it whenever it dips low, becuase im not used to lura fight i dont pay attention sometimes. would be nice if i maintain it so rejuv stacks drop 1 by 1 after every seconds, because i hot everyone up at once they all drop at once.

But yeah ty for the feedbacks. Im keep checking after every wipe to check what i could improve

[thorn plover]

make sure you arent casting swiftmend into convoke

minor thing

but just see you did it a couple times

[trail crown]

Part 1 is done, I did Chim hc a bit clueless. Ended up on top of the healing meter though:

[rustic copper]

Damn I was going to send some dms flaming that mw but you censored their name

[rustic copper]

You need to maintain 2 rejuvs on yourself so you can vi extend them for 2 more abundance stacks

[livid hearth]

ah good feedback ty so much

[livid hearth]

btw i never knew about that part, why is it bad?

never thought about it, just wanted to use both off cd so if sm is off cd after convoke i just click it

[rustic copper]

Use the sotf proc from sm before you convoke

[livid hearth]

Its a wipe pull but feels like christmas getting green on uptime for the first time haha. I always was hapy with yellow because it was always yellow

[livid hearth]

ah thats what purrformance meant? I used to prioritize the sotf proc, but later i started theoritizing, sotf proc will stay some seconds and fine until next sm click but using cds off cd is important so i started clicking convoke or wild regrowth before sotm procs

[thorn plover]

convoke consumes it

[livid hearth]

ok but it doesnt consume with the 2 bonus rejuv part?

just puts 1 reju or something and wastes it?

[solid hemlock]

lol disc hps is insane on these heroic fights since it keeps people topped

[thorn plover]

its not guaranteed convoke casts rejuv

[livid hearth]

ok so i wanna keep more rejuv hots with sotm unless someone is low so dont wanna save rg on sotm im guessing?

[thorn plover]

only sotf rejuv

like 99% of the time

[livid hearth]

But i see then ill try to have habit of always using sotf procs after sm.

Ok ty for the feedbacks

[thorn plover]

you should always use it immediately after sm

[trail crown]

MW should be way up there?

[glossy holly]

40k is quite low for MW

[grizzled seal]

it's heroic, odds are the dude was playing full dps

[main timber]

Or was alt tabbed

[grizzled seal]

also it's heroic so odds are he was watching a movie

yeah

[sour compass]

I fi have a fresh resto druid whats the best dungeon to bonus roll?

[glossy holly]

MW's just kicking the boss bruh

[thorn plover]

npx

chest, weapon, ring, boots

roll as balance, not resto

[sour compass]

ty sir

[rustic copper]

Convoke consumes it, you get the 2 rejuvs but you don’t get the everbloom proc and convoke might cast swiftmend too

[trail crown]

He was doing 14k dps

[livid hearth]

Because feedback on said reddit post was bad I almost skipped this website. But this website made by someone was rly helpful for that:

https://www.healermech.com/

[rustic copper]

All healers should be within like 20%

[trail crown]

I just realized different loadouts have their own action bars. Is there a way to make my Mythic+ loadout be the shared action bar that populates to other loadouts?

[rustic copper]

If anyone is that low they’re taking a nap

[grizzled seal]

the best dungeon to roll for right now might not be the most optimal path though

You should be planning your loot rolls ~20 in advance

[rustic copper]

I’m paying for bonus rolling heroic Lura for immediate power

My main is less geared than my alt

[livid hearth]

If u link your qelive link it calculates what dungeon is best to roll based on even catalyst turns as well as guardian spec etc.

After arguing/discussing with @haughty ibex at start about me wanting to roll everything on nxp on this alt, I later realized after getting 2h and maybe chest its smarter to start rolling on other best dungeons.

It was best decision as I saw that windrunners spire had the bis trinket as well as good loots with help of healermech website and got my bis trinket as well which i wouldnt have if i rolled everything on nxp.

Nxp has 1 bad ring and trinket if u get your wep, ring and chest early

[livid hearth]

I see ty

[sour compass]

damn this site is huge

ty

[grizzled seal]

NPX doesnt have a trinket

[livid hearth]

Forgot to mention u can also input what you rolled as well

[thorn plover]

it does if you roll resto like a lunatic

[haughty ibex]

did we argue kitten 😔😔😔😔

[rustic copper]

Can we just not link that website

[grizzled seal]

Ok if you are stupid then NPX might be a worse choice

[rustic copper]

Because it doesn’t give you relevant info

[livid hearth]

i wanted the 2h wep and it wasnt on guardian loot

[grizzled seal]

I am assuming people engage at least 2 brain cells

[thorn plover]

balance

[grizzled seal]

????????????????????????

[haughty ibex]

but go balance

[grizzled seal]

There was no intellect weapon on guardian loot spec?

How did this happen

[livid hearth]

discussion kinda, about rolling everything in there isnt optimal then u realized what i meant and said yeah it works

[livid hearth]

Ahh i see didnt know about that. But got my weapon kinda fast without getting unlucky with trinket

[grizzled seal]

I dont think you understand how rolling works at all so I'd advise you to not tell others what to do with their rolls

[haughty ibex]

yeah if u want quick ilvl it works, rolls aren’t that deep but now u have infinite crests so bis stat items is prob better than shit stats since u can craft

[rustic copper]

If you want quick ilvl from your bonus rolls you might be stupid

[grizzled seal]

+1

[haughty ibex]

that’s all he wanted he saw reddit guide…

[rustic copper]

The only time that would be useful is if it was your last week of prog

[thorn plover]

wow reddit is so bad lol

so much bad info on there

[grizzled seal]

wow reddit is for people who think t8 delves are too elitist and hard

[haughty ibex]

I mean the info wasn’t wrong, people just don’t know how to apply

but ye reddit people are acc freaks

[livid hearth]

I got rly lucky tho, but i changed my mind halfways after getting my 2h wep. Got this within week :p

[thorn plover]

which is just as bad as being wrong

[trail crown]

Shameless self-bump for this one, anyone knows?

[haughty ibex]

meh it was about how to get highest ilvl the quickest way, which was correct info ig, just cannot be applied to 99% of players if they want to gear efficiently but correctly

if they jst want ilvl then sure it works

[grizzled seal]

If your tool is misused in 99% of the cases, the tool might be bad

[rustic copper]

It’s like bis lists

[haughty ibex]

yep exactly

[rustic copper]

Voulk put the wrong weapon on his bis list

[grizzled seal]

Which one

[rustic copper]

Because the actual bis weapon would bait people into bonus rolling skyreach over npx

Skyreach is slightly more haste I think

[haughty ibex]

yeah the 3 mastery difference argument we alr had here

[rustic copper]

Imagine how fucked that would be

[solid hornet]

hi all dumb question but i'm not sure what i'm missing - i'm trying to cast frenzied regen but it's always gray (even if I'm not at 100% health). I'm specced into the talent at the top of the tree...advice?

[plush sun]

what ilvl you guys think i need to do 10s casually? i feel comfortable doing 6s and 7s atm it seems not too bad

sadly i arrived 3 months late into this expansion and trying to catch up lmao

[grizzled seal]

Just do 10s lol

[haughty ibex]

this was so peak actually

[grizzled seal]

Buy cheap enchants and go into 10s with your own key

[thorn plover]

the shared actionbar thing is so wonky, its like whatever one was made/selected first, but gets all messed up if you dont do it that way from day 1

[haughty ibex]

did u send all ur rolls alr

[grizzled seal]

Buy a darkmoon card too

[trail crown]

rip

[haughty ibex]

but with ur own key ur fine to do 10s with that ilvl

[main timber]

This is part of why I have no crafts on it too. You will just bait people into week 1 bracers craft if you do

[thorn plover]

screenshot all your bars on the one you want to use, click shared on everything, fix it from the screenshot

then youre gtg from here on out

[trail crown]

Yeh I might do that

[main timber]

Last expansion was full of week 1 offhand crafters (not for druid but for specs that included on BiS list)

[rustic copper]

Yeah

[grizzled seal]

It took me legitimately 3 tiers to stop that from happening in my guild

[rustic copper]

Bis lists are so fucked

[trail crown]

Actually this fixed it for me. I removed all the 'shared' checkmarks, then I checked only the main one, accepted it, then I clicked all the others. And it worked.

[thorn plover]

oh nice

41% haste unbuffed, lets go

[grizzled seal]

I have 50/50 on alleria trinket

Next week

[plush sun]

sorry what? i tried to not use any currency to upgrade or reroll etc

[plush sun]

ah im good to go then lol

[wise galleon]

kek

finaally one last 18

[rustic copper]

Delete resil keystone

[thorn whale]

Facts

[wise galleon]

not resil

[rustic copper]

I’m not doing keys

You are just queueing the same +18 and chain depleting it?

And the guys don’t have resil?

[thorn whale]

My last key for resil was not a resi key

Felt good

[wise galleon]

its diff groups

[thorn whale]

But yeah often you just participate in chain depletes

[wise galleon]

beteween today and yestreday

[livid hearth]

Is there a limit on how many wipes per boss wowanalyzer can show?

Altho i can see 10 pulls on warcraftlogs on wowanalyzer its only showing first 8 and not showing 9 and 10?

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/JfBDP87Xz6Nb3YCH

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/JfBDP87Xz6Nb3YCH?fight=13&type=summary&modal=fight-selection

[thorn plover]

shows all 10 for me

[glossy holly]

yeah there is no problem in seeing all the fights u've done until now

[livid hearth]

ok mb ill refresh the website then

did u guys use the same link or used link from warcraftlogs to generate new link on wowanalyzer?

[thorn plover]

used your link

click refresh top right maybe

[livid hearth]

ah now it works xD spammed it and didnt work before

[dire coral]

Hello,

I'm a beginner Redrood, and I don't understand why my Rejuv heals so little compared to the other drood in the raid. Thanks for your help.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4qM1LzN7HZKCv9dV?fight=last&type=healing

[grand herald]

I wouldnt focus much on that, it could be a lot of things out of your control. But, there are a lot of other mistakes you are making

I wouldnt be running Master Shapeshifter, you should not be ooming and you are losing hps by casting dps spells

same for using a mana pot, you want to use recklessness pots

cast more RGs so that you dont oom yourself

[dire coral]

Thanks for the build, but it's true that I wasn't running out of mana. Any ideas for my Rejuvenation spells?