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trail crown
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After depleting nexus from bonus rolls, is there any obvious next dungeon to focus?

marsh prism
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depends whatcha got

grizzled seal
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Do you have mythic gaze?

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That'd be my next step

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It's not a hard boss to pug

marsh prism
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is cloak armour for the purpose of arcanoweave

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im just doing a massive top gear for every slot i could possibly want to craft in

spark river
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You can put an arcanoweave on a cloak if thats the question

marsh prism
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yeah thats my question

marsh prism
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im getting abused and harassed by my raiders because qe doesnt have a convert to 298 drop down option @main timber are you considering one or

grizzled seal
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How's lura after nerfs

marsh prism
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going in 40min

balmy spire
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Stream it 😄

marsh prism
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i will

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i will post when live also

balmy spire
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nice

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gonna watch

pine torrent
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How useful do you think this macro is? (I'm looking for minimum gap between first Swiftness+Convoke combo and next):

#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/castsequence [nochanneling] reset=10 Nature's Swiftness, Convoke the Spirits, Regrowth

glossy holly
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thats not a thing anymore

spark river
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Useless lol

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Natures swiftness doesnt buff regrowths in convoke anymore

pine torrent
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that combo is fixed now?

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oh

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I saw in your logs @spark river and though it is still working haha

spark river
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I use it because their cds sync

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And my usage is garbage otherwise

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But yeah it does nothing for convoke anymore

marsh prism
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huh

pine torrent
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nice ^^

marsh prism
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unmacro it

spark river
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I probably will, but then I have to fix this habit

glossy holly
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better late than never

marsh prism
pine torrent
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Also I came with a doubt about my gear:
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/zuljin/Sercrash
I'm kinda close to be full equip (as far as I can at this moment without more myth raid kills)

My stats should be nice and next steps I have in notes are:

  • Get Chimaerus Myth trinket
  • Upgrade Waist with chrests
  • Replace Wrist with that one from Academy
  • Upgrade Chest to myth version

QE Live and other tools told me that's far I should go with my current guild progress
Do you find stats incorrectly planned or a big change in a concrete slot?

glossy holly
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solid plan

spark river
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Yeah thats fine

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Gaze is your biggest upgrade here

glossy holly
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u may even consider farming hc chim too though

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its rare drop still

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and u need to win too

balmy spire
pine torrent
pine torrent
balmy spire
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gameplay > gear

glossy holly
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locus is fine and all but its true strenght comes out in raid content

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so if u do m+ content, yeah im sure hc gaze is strong

pine torrent
# glossy holly so if u do m+ content, yeah im sure hc gaze is strong

M+ for me is a way to get equip for raid so I don't care about it a lot.
I'm close to be benched for low performance hahaha.. so I'm attacking all my weakness.
First priority is gameplay (working on it so hard), but I should follow correct path for all improves (including gear)

balmy spire
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you reju alot

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and not using regrowth

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but you cannot bench both druids in your raid xD

pine torrent
marsh prism
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but what are you progging right now

pine torrent
balmy spire
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Your druid mate should get benched not you at first 😛

spark river
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We ve been through this

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He knows what he has to improve

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Its just about practice now

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Oh lol the other druid is actually insanely bad

marsh prism
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thats a wild healer comp

pine torrent
spark river
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Other druid has 2 regrowth cpm lol

balmy spire
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There are some weird ppl out.. progging paladins atm

spark river
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I am progging paladins VerySadCat

balmy spire
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my RL said to me i should stop discuss about my heal cd's and just do it.. i told him we got like a ton shit of overheal if i tranq at 0:10 and use convoke at 0:02

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wtf

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tranq at 0:10 is like jesus...

spark river
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I ve seen wild logs from people on belo ren lol

pine torrent
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hahaah don't be too harsh , we're a "family" guild and we have players that push hard helping those that can't

pine torrent
spark river
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Well my guild is also casual but that will become a problem soon

marsh prism
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you guys got it

balmy spire
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same for tranq at 0:10

marsh prism
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on paladins...?

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no it's not

velvet cloak
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I convoke at 2 seconds, the fight starts with hefty raid-wide damage

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Convoke helps with ramping on them

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Tranq at 10 is probably questionable though, but we had a tranq at 20 and one at 30 (2 rdruids)

spark river
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My tranq is at 0:17

pine torrent
marsh prism
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3min is just so shit but it's def not bad there's heaps of dmg on pull

pine torrent
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But thanks to all you I have a hint

grizzled seal
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Shift by a few seconds

marsh prism
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ya i just looked it's a little later than literally 2sec but it's basically on pull

grizzled seal
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You convoke early and tranq early on paladins so that you have them up at 6 mins

grizzled seal
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This is actually very common this tier

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You do this on alleria and lura too

marsh prism
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it's either on pull or like for 30sec

grizzled seal
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People who look at overhealing are 40 year old boomers grey parsing

marsh prism
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we're getting there...

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@balmy spire im live btw

spark river
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Most logs I see are split between tranqing at 0:10 and tranqing at 0:17

haughty ibex
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is overhealing a thing u look in raid?

marsh prism
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no

spark river
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nop

balmy spire
marsh prism
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if im playing this game when im 40 put me down

grizzled seal
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It's a snapshot of 20 seconds

spark river
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Yeah I have something similar in my guild

grizzled seal
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Holy paladin is cding on debuffs surely

spark river
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Even at full fight it looks bad

balmy spire
marsh prism
balmy spire
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not the entire fight

grizzled seal
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Ok but your cds don't exist in a vacuum

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You realise that?

still valve
grizzled seal
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You need to cd later too

marsh prism
grizzled seal
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What's your plan on radiance at 6 mins

spark river
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you need to push regrowth more

balmy spire
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@spark river gif link

spark river
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You re sitting on 10 cpm

grizzled seal
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Yeah this is not good

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Low regrowth cpm, dropping lifebloom

spark river
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overall cpm 49

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with reck pot

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it has to go up

grizzled seal
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Actually just low cpm in general

onyx trail
balmy spire
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I think its also very chaotic, its like our 30 pull or smth

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and i feel like im burning through my mana sometimes, and sometimes im pretty fine

grizzled seal
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People kill it in around that

balmy spire
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i know

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raid dps is also very low

spark river
grizzled seal
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You are burning through your mana cuz you drop LB, don't swiftmend rejuvs and don't cast regrowths

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I played paladins for 7 mins without master shapeshifter and at higher cpm

spark river
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You should be fine for 7 minutes yeah

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Thats just poor play if you re ooming before that

balmy spire
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i didnt dropped lb, 96% uptime on that try

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but ye, i oom'd

spark river
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actually 88

pine torrent
spark river
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5/9 casts werent pandemic

balmy spire
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true

grizzled seal
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You don't want sotf rejuvs on yourself

radiant narwhal
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why not?

balmy spire
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cuz you just renew your own reju instead of spread it

radiant narwhal
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but if ur missing one its okay

zealous scarab
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It’s kind of a waste since you don’t need that extra healing on yourself, others do

rustic coyote
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you shouldn't miss one

balmy spire
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@spark river gimme twitch link

spark river
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but

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its im_nance

balmy spire
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bah jesus

grizzled seal
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Rejuvs on yourself are only for abundance and mastery and nothing else

balmy spire
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Whats the amount of abundance stacks i can go MIN for with rg spam?

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8?

trail crown
wise galleon
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Do the big champions that knock back 2 ppl before the last 2 bosses in Seat always target 2 people then the other 2?

spark river
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Some pugs one shot it and other take hours

fervent mica
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if you haven't done higher than lfr, you probably aren't getting invites

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they just have so many options that have done the content /-:

trail crown
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I could try to find a group that’s desperate, sweet talk my way in

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Pay them with puppy pictures

fervent mica
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i think its more likely you over ilvl it on heroic and try to get an invite after that

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or make your own /-:

trail crown
fervent mica
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its a quick enough fight, and only 1 boss. shouldn't take long at all in heroic

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you can also pug into heroic raids at whatever boss you haven't done yet, and just leave when you have to

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just pick back up at a boss you need

radiant narwhal
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how many abundance stacks do epople ge tin raid before spamming regrowth

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10? 12?

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I like to go to 12 for a little buffer window

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but idk if im over pressing rejuv

pine torrent
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Asking here: Convoke to environment, low health player if possible or myself. Which would be better?

fervent mica
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~15ish and then regrowth down

fervent mica
spark river
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you are ooming if you go for 15ish every ramp

pine torrent
pine torrent
fervent mica
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i ended belo with ~30%

spark river
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Why are we taking a 5 min fight

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As an example

fervent mica
fervent mica
solid hemlock
fervent mica
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do it before you need to heal

fervent mica
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then again theres nothing to heal in heroic

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unless you get to solo

solid hemlock
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def stuff to heal but it's still not a high hps number unless youre holding a crystal or somesthign

spark river
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You have to scout the shit groups to have something to heal in heroic

haughty ibex
wise galleon
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Prepping myself for 18+ seat :p

haughty ibex
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exboss has a thingy that helps u track it, but is ntd u can do it in ur head easily

wise galleon
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ty anyways!

haughty ibex
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i don’t use either but afaik is not rly buggy, just not fully accurate and needs the spell to be cast at least once b4 being able to track it for the rest of the pack

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glgl u got this:D

wise galleon
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I wonder how 19s will feel, I guess how 18s felt before this week, im like 290 ilvl

haughty ibex
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yeah every week that goes past is 1free keylvl basically

marsh prism
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wipe factory

warm vale
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Hey anyone know which addons causing this lifebloom count down? and how to turn it off please 😄

spark river
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that is cdm tracked bar

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Open cdm buff tab and you can move it over to a tracked buff or to not show at all

warm vale
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Amazing, thanks 🙂

kind star
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watching ur stream reminds me I need good frames like yours to target crystal instead of manually targetting them/hovering the

grizzled seal
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It's just boss frames

kind star
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ill have to fiddle with my settings, surely we will kill lura hc tonight 😩

wise galleon
kind star
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yeah looking at ur prog at work

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I just never bothered with boss frames but made me realise itd be useful there

marsh prism
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yeye

sudden rover
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how are u guys leveling a healer

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I wanted to spam timewalking dungeons but they are gone fml

kind star
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I did follow the arrow before this last TW

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but now im waiting on that giga timewalking event in 12.0.7 I think

sudden rover
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what's that?

kind star
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basically makes you do a bunch of quests/delves/and abunch of profession craft

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it felt pretty fast

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like it makes you grind to 88 and then you turn all ur delves quest and 30x first craft and hit 90

sudden rover
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aight but I'm only lvl 30 rn

kind star
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oh 😛

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rip then idk

sudden rover
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I read earthen dwarf can level fast by discovering zones but I'm night elf I'm fucked

kind star
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ye they level super fast, idk if chromie time older dungeon queue active or not, or if worth at all

grizzled seal
marsh prism
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@radiant narwhal SavageRoar p3

radiant narwhal
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huuuge

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we got 10%

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maybe a p4

marsh prism
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🤏

radiant narwhal
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very close very close

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I smell a kill for us both next week

marsh prism
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its the nance show

radiant narwhal
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wtf

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wai t wait wait

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is that with overhealing?

marsh prism
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no lol

radiant narwhal
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so you did

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455k hps

marsh prism
radiant narwhal
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with 40% overheal on top

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WHAT

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WHAT WHAT WHAT WHAT

marsh prism
radiant narwhal
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WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT

marsh prism
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the nance show

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tune in

grizzled seal
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It's 30 seconds with tranq and reck pot

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Pretty normal

marsh prism
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[10:34 PM] Torty 🍂: Pretty

radiant narwhal
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ohhhhhh

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im so dumb

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I thought it was across the entire fucking fight

grizzled seal
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Remember yesterday people in this chat were saying that druid didn't need nerfs

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This is post nerf

spark river
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I quite clearly remember yesterday that we went from S tier to B tier with the nerf

marsh prism
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if elected president i would m,ake rdruid capable of 800k hps

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^ THATS mattiu rounding

balmy spire
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what nerf?

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did i miss something?

smoky sail
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dw about it

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just some random was spouting bullshit here

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and turbo dooming about the state of resto post the nerf from like 3 weeks ago

sudden rover
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well it's top 2 in keys now, you won't get invited higher than 20

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mw is meta

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but in raid it's still good I believe

stable verge
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And watch us ascend to SSSSS+ tier

smoky sail
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nah converts into boss dmg

kind star
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that'd be so crazy lmao

balmy spire
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we get wings then?

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and can fly without owl form?

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and a big 2h sword ?

kind star
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nah but we can dual wield staves or 1h

balmy spire
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dual polearm, gg

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and tripple 1h like zorro

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2 swords and a root between the teeth

glossy holly
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ppl are really taking their sweet time to choose competent healers for m chim lol

radiant narwhal
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@marsh prism every pull im 40% overhealing

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im fighting OCE's best fucking healers

marsh prism
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who gives a fuck about overhealing man we are ramp healers

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yeah i sure fucking hope you're overhealing

kind star
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''you're always top because you're overhealing'' bitch thats my class garf

marsh prism
wicked veldt
bright swift
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What are they doing over there

marsh prism
thorn plover
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What that guy doing over there

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Pretty sus

spark river
balmy spire
marsh prism
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oh this is just

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for everything

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this is just my raiders in general

balmy spire
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sad 🙁

marsh prism
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oh no i love them.

spark river
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how is there no one who is both a professional victim and a known terrorist

sudden rover
marsh prism
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hottracker addon

still wraith
thorn plover
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I hear the guy that makes that addon is a real asshole

marsh prism
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which you want to see instead of just 12

marsh prism
thorn plover
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People ask for features and he just tells them where to go. Like no icon. Could you imagine?

sudden rover
marsh prism
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give me a not shit ass typeface

sudden rover
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ty

thorn plover
thorn plover
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I just added it to the list, apparently it never made it last time lol

grizzled seal
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Nance's raiders looking at what is going on there

thorn plover
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The pings made me laugh

marsh prism
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the pings are the best part and like he called the soak so calmly

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like the normal ass ping too and no fear in his voice

grizzled seal
marsh prism
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font (but font includes weight, typeface encompasses the entire family)

thorn plover
marsh prism
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I think they'd throw me out of my degree if I didn't know what a typeface was

thorn plover
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Apparently I was being nice that day

frosty canyon
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lol I think I've said "damn someone who actually knows the difference between font and typeface" the last time this discussion happened and it was still nance

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lots of graphic designer friends who correct me when I use the wrong one lmao

marsh prism
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I'm nance

frosty canyon
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Yeah I know lol, just funny, if I had a nickel for everytime this has been brought up and had been explained by you I would have two nickels type deal

mystic crater
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Thanks nance

grizzled seal
onyx trail
kind star
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tf lol

plush sun
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Hey just cameback after few months and apparently as resto, boomkin doing more dmg than cat this season? VerySadCat

kind star
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casting in caster form better than cat yup

plush sun
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😭 😭

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the 8 years of cat meta is over

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so the talents also keeper of the grove > wildstalker?

kind star
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wildstalker is the best hero tree for all content

frosty canyon
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yeah not boomkin, naked caster form casting balance spells

plush sun
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so it's still worth it even tho the dot from rip and rake is gone

frosty canyon
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just to be specific and clear

kind star
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Best healing fron ws especially idk about the dmg difference tho

frosty canyon
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and if someone says use DoC (Dream of Cenarius) it's a trap

kind star
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Oh wat I didn't know there's a book you can click in mgt to get a 5% haste buff

frosty canyon
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yeah and smaller books under the crystals in some rooms that give a buff

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the courtyard right after that library, there's a book or some item in the center

kind star
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Even those things in npx left side gives a buff oh well now I know

glossy holly
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16 deaths in SR +10

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this was such amazing grp

trail crown
dire hinge
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the ones u can step on

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there's zappies coming out of em

gaunt willow
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If you stand on them you get 140% haste

trail crown
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But for like a longer period of time? Or while standing on them?

gaunt willow
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Standing on them

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Afaik it’s 20 seconds

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Good to burst down the trash packs

kind star
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but you take some damage, idk how much tho and I hate this hallway xd

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with some tanks its worse somehow, I have no clue what the shit does in this hallway tbh.

gaunt willow
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There’s the ring debuff that loads of classes can clear but hardly anyone does

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That makes a big difference

kind star
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its some random pulse dmg depending on where we are sometimes I think, I really gotta log my keys :/

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ive got auto combat log on but not the program or whatever to upload

rare badger
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any of yall tried to experiment with wild stalker in raids?

lyric surge
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that's what we should be running in raids

rare badger
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ah hell nah twin

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im geeked out

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ive been running kotg this whole time

gentle nova
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😹

rustic copper
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._.

rare badger
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i mean dont get me wrong, i can handle my own. but fuck man i was running heroic voidspire for shards, and i just got my ASS beat by another druid

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i was doing like 105k hps and he was doing like 140k lol

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do you guys know where i could find a good ws build? cause i deleted the one i made last tier

haughty ibex
rare badger
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100% yeah, il just have to experiment with it

thorn plover
# rustic copper ._.

Your advice on beloren was spot on lol. Ignore everything and pump regrowth is literally it

rare badger
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i feel stupid now

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cause last tier WS was goated asf, so i used it. but midnight rolled around and i was certain that WS was shit without the op tier set from tww s3

rustic copper
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Big regrowther

rare badger
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so no ramp up? just straight regrowth spam?

rustic copper
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Yes ramp

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I try to do everything I can to maximize my regrowth casts * abundance stacks

kind star
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would go oom so fast if just spamming natty regrowths me thinks

rustic copper
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Yeah

rare badger
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okay so ramp up and then regrowth(x250)? id assume you also sprinkle a few swiftmends+ wildgrowths in there

rare badger
rustic copper
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Read a guide garf

kind star
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we talking raid or m+ huh

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starsurge susge

rustic copper
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I don’t play ms because if you play properly you don’t need extra mana, if you want to waste your mana and compensate by taking ms then you catweave for mana

kind star
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ill have to try liveliness tonight

rare badger
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i use ms cause i played druid for like two expacs so far, and i overheal too much

fleet jewel
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ok now take the quiz

rare badger
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😂

rustic copper
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I never stop casting

kind star
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ABC always be casting

rustic copper
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You don’t oom by casting too much

kind star
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and always prepare for next window of damage

thorn plover
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Easy 9 mins with no MS

rustic copper
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You oom by casting the wrong spells

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Like rejuv spam

rare badger
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last time i checked i was doing like 40-50 cpm

kind star
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unless spamming regrowth with no abundance and WG on cd when no damage too right

thorn plover
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Low

rustic copper
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That’s low

rare badger
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okay so thats not the problem then

thorn plover
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It can be

errant frost
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Guys can someone please explain self LB benefits in raid? Better healing, or more control?

rare badger
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i would assume the problem comes from my rejuv spam

thorn plover
rare badger
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but even then, now that i use ms, i pop starsurge off cd and dont go oom anymore

gentle nova
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And you do 30% less hps

kind star
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we take cat talents and just send hotw feral and rip if MS for mana

glossy holly
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well not 30% if its just starsurge

errant frost
lusty jolt
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Yo guys, has the resto boomkin cenarius build been nerfed? I feel like my starfalsl when dream of cenarius is active aren't healing taht much, or not healing everyone

gentle nova
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Any global lost on damage is a healing loss

rare badger
glossy holly
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there hasnt been nerfs on cenarius

kind star
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I really hope we get done with heroic tonight, I cant anymore D:

rare badger
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i mean starsurge is instant cast so if you do it quick enough i would assume its barely noticable

kind star
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could have been a gcd on rejuv!

gentle nova
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Its not barely noticeable

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Show a log

thorn plover
thorn plover
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You do not need ms if you play properly

kind star
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just recently added friendly nameplates and its such a godsend

glossy holly
thorn plover
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Losing a lot of HPS taking ms

desert kelp
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Why does the icon on rejuv occasionally change into a hot pink more HD version? I assume its similar to buffed rip/rake i just cant figure out what it does or what causes it

glossy holly
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looks like according to my little research on SR tank, i really need to keep LB on tanks at trashpacks from now on

distant birch
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soul of the forest buff

rare badger
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yeah but its a good crutch for me, im still bad at this. id rather take the heal loss than being oom which is an even bigger hps loss

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ive been healing for two tiers lol

distant birch
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You can play ms its fine

desert kelp
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Tyty

gentle nova
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Yeah its fine to lose a 4+ healing talent garf

distant birch
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But if you learn to optimize abundance you can heal for a lot without needing mana from ms

rustic copper
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If you take the crutch how will you learn garf

kind star
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but like some fights you aint even going oom tho

rare badger
kind star
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ended belo at 27%

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got 24k mana from 5 starsurge there ig

rare badger
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okay maybe i misjudged how much mana i got from ms lol

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thats like two spells worth of mana

kind star
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did go oom on ur lura kill but AT THE END of the encoutner

rare badger
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man lu'ara was a fucking NIGHTMARE

kind star
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and then again 51k mana from MS there

rustic copper
gentle nova
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You sat at 50% mana the whole fight in cosmos

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Big ms value

rare badger
rare badger
thorn plover
kind star
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me just zug zug and copy talents from wowhead but yeah im seeing it now how dummy I am picking MS.

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during our lura prog even 6min in im at like 50-60% mana

rare badger
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fucking hell i never realised how little ms does

kind star
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why is it showing twice tho weirdge

rare badger
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maybe i thought i needed a crutch to not go oom, but maybe not since it barely gave me 3-4 extra casts on crown

rustic copper
#

It’s split between cat and caster i think?

kind star
#

ah that would make sense like mana back from convoke casting stuff and hotw feral

main timber
rare badger
#

oh keep in mind, i was using kotg btw not WS

lusty jolt
main timber
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It is probably the strongest version of this talent

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Problem is it's on a spec that doesn't really have downtime

rare badger
kind star
#

if we were a reactive class could be more useful but we are proactive always preparing for the next damage ramping up.

rustic copper
rare badger
#

rinse and repeat x_x

rare badger
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i usually prefire my sotf with sm to be able to proc everbloom on everybody around me

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and i throw a wild growth in there after

rustic copper
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Respectfully not you and I’m not wasting a few seconds, I’m wasting a fraction of a gcd to line my spell up with a dmg tick

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Delaying more than a gcd is a clear mistake

rare badger
#

by that you mean keeping it for more than 1.13 seconds is a crime?

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sotf

rustic copper
#

Yeah

main timber
rustic copper
#

You can cast a wg since it doesn’t consume the buff if you want to delay another gcd

rare badger
#

i proc sw, and then everbloom right after, il SOMETIMES throw in a wg after the everbloom

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not before

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im esl lol i cant speak english for shit

rare badger
thorn plover
#

Lura I didn't know you felt this way

kind star
#

its more of its useless if not going oom kinda thing I think

rare badger
main timber
rare badger
main timber
#

It's a good version of a mana talent. Druid is just a unique spec that has little spare time and ultra efficient spells it can press instead

rustic copper
#

Yes it is really good if you’re throwing away your mana

grizzled seal
#

If a fight is very stationary (which is most of the fights) and you play well then it usually adds nothing because it's hard to use all that mana

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Also it's very hard to even oom if you try on fights below 5 mins

wise galleon
#

for algthar should we always take haste buff?

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what about vers?

kind star
#

always haste me thinks unless you really need the vers on high keys maybe?

thorn whale
thorn whale
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swap to vers there

wise galleon
#

smarto, whats the vers buff? green?

thorn whale
#

The one to the right of the stair

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I don't remember color

grizzled seal
#

are you doing this in the very end or what?

wise galleon
rustic copper
#

Never used sotf ns rg in beloren intermission?

grizzled seal
#

Not unless someone took a debuff from the wrong color

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We actually lacked healing after the egg, not during

grave quail
#

is an embelished 285 > 289 ?

grizzled seal
#

I felt like reducing the healing for after the egg would be griefing

rustic copper
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Yeah that’s fine I’m just talking in general about using sotf ns rg as a burst heal with ticking dmg

main timber
rare badger
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Wtf is ns

grizzled seal
#

I'd do that on something like chimaerus

grave quail
rustic copper
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Nature’s swiftness

rustic copper
grizzled seal
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or saladhaar beams

rare badger
grizzled seal
#

yeah because there is nothing after

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but I wouldnt do it on alleria p2 for example

rustic copper
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You mean you use sotf ns rg

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Or you time it

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I do it pretty often

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I cast sotf ns rg often

grizzled seal
#

really

rustic copper
#

I’m unsure if timing it is worth

rare badger
#

Just to be able to quickly put rg on a few people?

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Its that good?

grizzled seal
#

Ok but how often are we talking

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No, he is doing it for nature's bounty cleave

rustic copper
#

60% of my NS casts are sotf rg

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Estimate

grizzled seal
#

Ok that's not that often

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I feel like when I mistime it, it's complete grief

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Because it heals for too much natty without cleave

rustic copper
#

Wdym by mistime

glossy holly
grizzled seal
#

If I hit someone with RG and they are not missing a lot of health

rustic copper
#

You mean by like seconds or fractions of gcd

grizzled seal
#

Fractions of gcd

rustic copper
#

Ok

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Yeah like if I have sotf ready and I intend to NS regrowth on chim consume I’ll delay for like up to 1s to time it with the moment a tick happens

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I think that’s better but was wondering what other ppl were doing

grizzled seal
#

there you delay for sure

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same thing on saladhaar or similar

kind star
#

I rarely use sm regrowth in raids maybe I should do that here and there after ramping up during regrowth spam

spring fulcrum
#

is this worth guys

rustic copper
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Yes lol

spring fulcrum
#

feels like it fucks up my call of the elder druyid most of the time

rare badger
#

Thanks for the tips guys i preciate it

grizzled seal
#

huh

spring fulcrum
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like FR gets removed after i leave bear right

rare badger
spring fulcrum
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so pointless

rare badger
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It automaticly Casts it for ya

spring fulcrum
#

yes but it screws up that

rare badger
#

Ah

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Well i dont use that

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What does it Do?

spring fulcrum
#

makes druid actually fun in keys

wise galleon
#

nice bait

rare badger
#

I mean im having fun so far and i dont use it

spring fulcrum
rare badger
gentle nova
#

No one plays that

glossy holly
#

well i mean

spring fulcrum
#

18-20 should be fine

glossy holly
#

its hard to fuck that cooldown up if u actually kept urself hp topped

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so if u wanna avoid it guaranteed, LB yourself

wise galleon
#

yeah well there are tons of M+ bursts that just get you to 20% hp

spring fulcrum
#

yep

wise galleon
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you cant bear bark every one of them

glossy holly
#

i mean

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do u want to live

spring fulcrum
#

and i rarely stay in bear for more than a global/mechaniuc

glossy holly
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or do dps until death

spring fulcrum
#

which i can FR myself if needed

wise galleon
#

you could get the frenzied regeneration on use instead of that

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but its just such a lifesaver

rare badger
#

Facts

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Its a Free defensive honestly

rustic copper
kind star
#

I always forget I could go bear too sometimes, but I aint healing during that gcd

spring fulcrum
glossy holly
#

you do you but thats a mistake

kind star
#

I feel like FR is saving my ass ALOT of time

spring fulcrum
#

losing a dream of cenaaarios aint worth

kind star
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😂

glossy holly
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procced 4 times during my recent seat +10 run

spring fulcrum
#

ure just there spamming lay of hand on the whole team for 15 sec

rare badger
#

I mean if it Works for him i dont See an issue

glossy holly
#

i will take that

kind star
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sometimes I forget about a swirly and FR pops and saves my butt hehe 😄

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or ill just be spamming on the party and not heal myself to pop it still using LB on tanks in m+ like a noob

rare badger
rare badger
spring fulcrum
#

another issue i got is this bs

kind star
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but sometimes it sucks and procs when im healing myself and wanted to save it 😛

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whats ur other trinket?

spring fulcrum
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thats all i got

wise galleon
#

Acthually, should I take frenzied regen as a talent, perhaps I should...

kind star
#

where gaze? 😮

spring fulcrum
kind star
#

you using bonus rolls on chim at all or nah?

rare badger
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Im running gaze and ribbon for m+ and raid

kind star
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yeah thats what im using too

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both hero tho.. xd

glossy holly
#

i might consider it if i get into mythic chim

rare badger
#

Same i cant get into a DR m pug lol

kind star
#

im just dumbge I shouldve alr pugged chim m

rare badger
#

I dont blame em i dont have ce lol

glossy holly
#

they do take good time to think whether we are competitive healers or not lmao

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our only job is to stand at mark when fear shit comes

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thats it

rare badger
#

Looks easy enough

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I Havent done any mythic pulls this season

kind star
#

like im 282 I can get in a grp surely

spring fulcrum
#

its easy

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only issue is dk and fears

glossy holly
#

there is definitely some gpr that got minimum 280+ xd

rare badger
kind star
earnest moth
#

Are there still addons that make your MRT note into a voice message?

rare badger
kind star
#

I use NSRT and it does voice calls for assignment/notes, I export from lorgs into NSRT.

wise galleon
#

What ze hell why are only 20% of top 100 drudu taking incap roar? Because they running with aug that already has a set of stuns?

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Also matted fur is not being used either

rare badger
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I use both of those for dgs

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I dont use Roar in raids, excluding lu'ara

rare badger
wise galleon
#

Soz was looking for M+ only

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Wanted to check the talents and perhaps switch to liveliness idk

haughty ibex
rare badger
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I mean maybe they know somethings i dont. Ive made it to 14's using both of them. Roar and matted

haughty ibex
#

also there is dungeons in which i press incap maybe only 2x but is nice safety net

rare badger
kind star
#

I always keep as safety net but pugs...

wise galleon
#

Not many people going full magic dmg doe, how so...

kind star
#

just send all their stops on stuff like monotonous lecture then not kicking surges in AA 😄

rare badger
#

Its usefull for swiping and the fucking orbs affix

kind star
#

basic pugs stuff

rare badger
haughty ibex
wise galleon
haughty ibex
rare badger
glossy holly
#

bubble once u use personal def cd

wise galleon
haughty ibex
wise galleon
rare badger
rare badger
wise galleon
haughty ibex
#

need to ask some experts

wise galleon
rare badger
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Matted fur

haughty ibex
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oh matter fur is the one under ye

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sorry im slow thank u

rare badger
#

Nope

wise galleon
#

My question is if going cat form when there are no event damages and dropping some bleeds deals more damage then being able to weave in a couple of wraths and surge

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he wronlgy circled the talent

haughty ibex
wise galleon
#

my cursor is not visible but its the one under the one he circled

languid kiln
wise galleon
#

thick hide is the one that reduces damage

rare badger
rare badger
#

I probably circled the wrong thing lol

haughty ibex
#

pressing starfire = rly little prio, pressing rip bite w/e is good prio even if u are in aoe context spreading ur rake

haughty ibex
wise galleon
#

what even is survival instincts

rare badger
#

With heart of the Wild u get a strong st bleed Every Two mins. And it gives you 5 combo points. When you are in car form

rare badger
wise galleon
#

is that some other spec stuff?

haughty ibex
rare badger
haughty ibex
wise galleon
#

oh! ok

glossy holly
#

bear hotw is increased hp

rare badger
#

Yup

haughty ibex
kind star
#

ursine vigor or something its called I think the bear hotw

haughty ibex
#

same with ironbark ^

#

I legit don’t know how to see lb uptime on mobile zzz

rare badger
languid kiln
glossy holly
#

both icy veins and wowhead got same stuff

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same author

haughty ibex
haughty ibex
kind star
haughty ibex
#

HSHAH

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I still haven’t figured it out btw

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I gave up

kind star
#

awww lame

rare badger
#

💔💔💔

glossy holly
#

im very afraid of how to heal MW during boss fights

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very odd style

haughty ibex
#

legit

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without tft im so lost…

kind star
#

thats the part I really love about MW

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planning boss and rotating cds

haughty ibex
#

druid acc easier on that cuz perma same aoe and st

kind star
#

got so many CDs on mw, Litany,chiji,revival and conduit.

glossy holly
#

3 exactly

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litany is a trinket so its unfair game

rare badger
#

Mw looks fun as heck

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Hpal too

kind star
#

yeah but litany is legit like a cooldown tho

#

I just feel like I low roll my convoke often xd

haughty ibex
#

so cooked

kind star
#

I got it from the tw quest altho its champ track its so stupid on mw

rare badger
#

100%

calm flare
#

im happy we agree on this front

kind star
#

thank god we dont go boomkin form but yeah cat form coolios

calm flare
#

car all the way!

kind star
#

oh you said car wut lol

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you got me there for a few sec

rare badger
#

Car>>>>>>

fervent mica
#

still want them to make it so mechagnome can be druid... then we can autobot forms

wise galleon
#

I cant get incap without dropping forestwalk 🙁

rare badger
#

Drop heart🗣️

wise galleon
#

never

rare badger
#

Thats how i feel about forestwalk

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😂

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Forestwalk my beloved

thorn plover
#

@marsh prism is mechanic Mike good or bad

rare badger
kind star
#

Optimus Primal shapeshift form!

haughty ibex
#

I have 1x forest walk and incap…

thorn plover
#

I have 2 forest and and incap...

rare badger
wise galleon
#

Like yes I could run 1 forestwalk but 16% incr healing looks like a lot, going 1 forestwalk would let me get liveliness

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If liveliness heals more then 8% healing on myself then perhaps I will go catweave and have just 1 stack of forestwalk

mystic pasture
#

liveliness is in the other tree? how does 1 forestwalk enable that

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or do you just mean bc you dont need ms

livid hearth
#

Hi just wanted to double check what flask is exactly the best flask? Mastery or haste? Because wowhead and icyveins guide saying 1 mastery flask 1 haste.

Unlike raidbots top gear doesnt show consumables like enchants.

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Since gem sims are telling me to use more haste less mastery gem shouldi assume haste is the better stat for me currently and stick with haste flask?

grand herald
#

raid or m+?

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haste is safe for both, mastery can be better in M+

livid hearth
#

ok ty, gonna raid now but mostly i run m+

balmy spire
#

dispell wa on paladins got fcked? 😄

thorn plover
rustic copper
rustic copper
#

It got changed somehow

thorn plover
#

Shitty

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Oh well

haughty ibex
#

I feel like we have so much self healing alr

chrome fern
#

is there a soft cap for haste and mastery?

main timber
#

Why are we randomly comparing unrelated class and spec talents anyway

main timber
haughty ibex
main timber
#

What does that have to do with Forestwalk. Something there is not making sense

sudden rover
#

that is a fine observation my good sir

glossy holly
#

okay so fresh dinged character now got access to champion gear from m+ from a vendor standing near timeway portal

kind star
#

what currency for those vendors?

glossy holly
#

voidlight marl's

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750 a box

kind star
#

dont think ive got any lul

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spent it on the bonus rolls

glossy holly
#

i got 20k

kind star
#

sheeeesh

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I dont do wq/delves etc. alot

glossy holly
#

i was just using veteran crests for bonus rolls

kind star
#

but I might farm some ritual site for hero crests ill prolly get some

glossy holly
#

cant recall, i did ritual like 2 weeks ago so prolly the week it released

kind star
#

im waiting on dat turbulent timewalking event for a next alt

#

but idk what to level, got Druid,monk,lock and DH atm.

glossy holly
#

DK or mage

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or maybe shaman if you are interested

#

im debating using my char boost for that class honestly

kind star
#

I liked having all these useless healing spell on shaman! bars feels so empty now rofl

rare badger
kind star
#

DK could be fun tho might just do that and tank while leveling and then UH.

glossy holly
#

UH bis trinket comes from raid first boss too apparently

kind star
#

ya guidon I think its called and heart from vorasius too

past tusk
#

hey I have crafted bracers, ring and staff.. When I switch to 298 staff I loose Hunt, and I can't put arcanoweave on a ring I think.. Is this advisable?

glossy holly
#

oh i have no clue about ring embellish

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typically u will craft low budget items with arcanoweave once u got m track weapon

wise galleon
glossy holly
#

what do u need fluid form for?

wise galleon
glossy holly
#

u can just macro the form into hotw spell

wise galleon
glossy holly
#

because hotw is most common spell used for catweaving

kind star
#

hes playing the cat build not caster

#

he only has 1 pt in starfire for aoe

wise galleon
#

yes also for owlweave you hotw on cat

#

but i need fluid form to apply rake

#

which I dont do if im not catweave talents

#

and having to spend one entire gcd to go cat and then cast rake feels stupid

#

its fine for hotw since its every 2min

#

I do not complain

glossy holly
#

okay

viral pelican
#

I even did mythic boss this time, BAM! Let organge be on top forever, ty for your awesome tips about LB and swiftmend only on me that has made lifebloom casting so much less frequent that I have way more time for regrowths that are so cheap due to abundance! You rock. Admittedly I was high so I didn't realize I signed up for mythic not heroic, but it ended up being fine.

spark river
viral pelican
#

Thank you!! I will look for the rejuvenations present, I think my main issue is I usually just send them out to whoever has few icons on my screen, is there a better way in the UI?

spark river
#

You need to train your eyes or find a way that works for you to differentiate different hots

wispy crane
#

What is people's usual overall dps in mythic dungeons on resto? i mostly do between 14k and 16k

balmy spire
#

pally progress , woop woop....

spark river
#

well the difference is actually your hpal improving lol

lyric surge
#

@wise galleon Do you rewally need Ursine Vigor?

balmy spire
#

People still dying to hammers

slender gust
#

I know this question is ZERO percent relevant to us mere mortals, but I noticed all of the resto druids in the MDI were talenting Fluid Form, which is surprising given that last I saw it was a DPS loss, which seems weird when you're trying to go as fast as possible. I can think of a couple niche reasons why you might do that, but idk if any of them would be worth the damage loss. Any Knowers™ have any insight?

tough portal
#

Whoever said it's a dps loss was taking it too far

glossy holly
#

talenting fluid form doesnt necessarily mean they actually used that talents effect as advantage

tough portal
#

There's a lot of misinformed people just parroting talking points always

spark river
#

Isnt this your talking point?

tough portal
#

No?

#

Where did I say fluid form is a dps loss lol

#

Fuck outta here man

slender gust
glossy holly
#

i can only imagine someone said that about transforming into owl

rustic copper
viral pelican
#

Good idea, thanks!

#

Do you have any preferred addon? I looked up a few (I'm not sure if they do this)

rustic copper
#

Danders does it, grid2 does it

tough portal
# slender gust I remember when we first switched to caster DPS, there was talk that Fluid Form ...

It's a smaller dps gain than for catweaving because of that and a couple more things. The lycaras 4% magic damage node is one, that is typically active more often and will affect dots you and treants put out, while moonkin form is only affecting some Starfires that you cast while being in form.
It's still ofc a dps gain, just small, especially if you're not using Convoke for damage often, since that is only a gain in single target and typically advice is given for the realities of people asking questions, which is not using damage Convoke on cooldown

slender gust
viral pelican
#

Ty guys! Downloading

rustic copper
#

Do people still use elvui

tough portal
#

If they have nothing else to take cuz they're doing keys 5 levels below their paygrade, that's a different situation than what you should do if you arent a competitor in the mdi

frosty canyon
#

I do

rustic copper
#

I thought it’s fallen out of favor

frosty canyon
#

I always want to change, but I'm pretty complacent with my set-up

rustic copper
#

I hate changing my ui

frosty canyon
#

exactly lol

#

don't fix what's not broken

rustic copper
#

I was kinda forced to redo everything anyways though

frosty canyon
#

I do see y'alls screenshots and feel a little envious though

frosty canyon
#

and no real performance loss on my end, pretty decent build

slender gust
slender gust
viral pelican
#

Can I somehow import a Grid 2 profile? Where could I find them that does basically blizzard bars with fixed position buffs?

thorn plover
#

assuming its still updated

viral pelican
#

Thanks!

bright kestrel
#

Hey guys. I just joined and I did some searching in the discord before coming to ask....but couldn't find a solid answer....why are all of the top rdruids in m+ running improved wild growth?

viral pelican
#

If so I think they log off in raid build (but don't actually spend a point on that in keys)

fervent mica
#

because aggregate sites are a meme.

steel plank
#

Archon is a better representation in my experience. Still don't autopilot into what they take tho

bright kestrel
#

I thought maybe there was some kind of behind the scenes tech between that and the wildstalker procs or something

lyric surge
# wise galleon yes

Sounds to me like you either don't need fluid form, +1 FW or don't need incap roar then ottershrug

viral pelican
lyric surge
#

I'd give up fluid form if the case being made is that you need FW for survivability and UV for survivability because it sounds liek you're very survival oriented and incap helps with that but fluid form doesn't

My actual opinion is to just drop UV and keep the others

quartz zenith
#

252 guardian trying to kill nullaeus ?? as resto. feels like no matter what i do, he just decides he wants to kill me and valeera cant get threat back. im chilling at like 70% threat

#

also standing far away, but at some point he just sees red

fervent mica
#

deal zero damage

#

body pull to start and just don't ever touch him

tough portal
viral pelican
#

Ooh yummy! You are taking a lot of damage, is that from being in melee? Or you just know what you can live through with self LB + hots and you don't need to move out of as much?

slender gust
viral pelican
#

Also I am impressed with the healing going with 5 healers good job!

#

Also you have 45.5% overheal, mine is usually way higher unfortunately, is that because of being in heroic with just less to heal? Or you are doing something to focus heals on certain targets more (more regrowths)?

slender gust
rustic copper
#

Unfortunately all my characters are locked

proven phoenix
#

Unfortunately all my characters are locked

prime ridge
#

Is it worth replacing a mythic piece with a crafted one for the arcanoweave embellishment?

rustic copper
#

Yes

lyric surge
balmy spire
#

JESUS FINALLY

thorn plover
#

Is not putting rdruid as seed carrier on Lura trolling

#

Or should I just be happy I'm not doing it

rustic copper
#

But if you’re shit at mechanics don’t grief your team by holding it

#

Every time in p1 you get sent down is painful for your hot stacking

#

And you need to heal 1 more crystal dot for the entirety of the fight

thorn plover
#

Where it would just be handled by my self healing if I had it, right?

rustic copper
#

Yes

thorn plover
#

Thanks

rustic copper
#

I’m pretty sure p2 is also painful if you aren’t holding because you need to fight the suck

thorn plover
#

We have no healers assigned it rn

rustic copper
#

No healers assigned crystals?

thorn plover
#

Not on the sheet I was sent

fervent mica
#

same...

rustic copper
#

I think Rdruid is the only healer you’d consider

#

For p1-2

thorn plover
#

Ok

half star
#

It’s definitely not common to have a healer hold in P1 or P2, outside of disc used to hold in P1 because they suck at downstairs healing (but it’s whatever now with gear)

#

I think Niko is the only rdruid holding a crystal in P1-P2 so I wouldn’t be surprised you aren’t

fervent mica
#

but i wannnna

#

lol

proven phoenix
#

I think at this point you put them on whoever wont die to them

#

crystal healing is completely meaningless with how strong healers are and how little damage p1 does

#

memory game is easy

#

both healing and marking

half star
#

Yeah put them on your best players. I sure as poo would not want to be worrying about dropping crystal in P2 tho just let me blast healing

#

My point was it’s def not “trolling” to not have them on a healer; I don’t think the majority of healers hold crystal outside of P3 and that’s just so you can ignore memory game and blast

wise galleon
#

going crazy

pine torrent
spark river
spark river
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I d focus on swiftmending on cd and lb uptime for your area of improvement

livid hearth
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After my first raid on my resto on heroic guild run I think im born to heal xD. Why is the ranking showing lower than my mage tho altho better parses?

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Is it easy to get high parse on druid or is it becuase my raid isnt finished yet? So ranks arent placed yet?

fervent mica
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missing a whole boss

livid hearth
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Maybe i shouldnt have volunteered on my mage on beloren

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They wanted to try to kill beloren in 1 egg phase and asked if healers can dps spec so i logged in my mage for that boss

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Any tips and tricks on restodruid for lura? Annoying crystals arent in group so all my aoe heals arent targeting them it seems like, have to spot heal spam with regrowth

thorn plover
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Not much to it on heroic, they'll be healed before you even get hots on them

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They show up on boss frames

thorn plover
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I think danders has a way to add them to its frames but idk

pine torrent
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And got trinket!

desert kelp
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I ended up swapping to hpriest off of pres bc we were having crystal issues lol (I am swapping to rdru sometime either this week or next)

spark river
glossy holly
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lol im totally shocked by the style of MW raid healing

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this is some easy tunnelvisioning into spreading mists and 2 buttons

pine torrent
tough portal
livid hearth
livid hearth
empty agate
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quick question on L'ura P2.

i've already pulled through many P2s and i feel like i'm getting pulled way too much towards the middle. it's not that much of a problem cause i cast no regrowth, only rejuv/sm/lb instead.
but am i doing something wrong or is it normal to get pulled that hard?

formal fjord
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its standard

rare badger
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the pull just fucking sucks, if the orb break isnt really ''spread out in all directions'' i heard that it could make it worse but im not sure

empty agate
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okay okay

glossy holly
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lura crystals are considered npc's?

rare badger
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Yeah seems like it

rustic copper
proven phoenix
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yes

rustic copper
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We’ve never recovered from that

proven phoenix
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you can just do the mythic strat in heroic though

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left of marker, on marker, right of marker every time on 4 marks

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never get it wrong

rustic copper
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Placing the markers correctly is really difficult

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Especially for pugs

proven phoenix
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yeah im ngl I thought markers were just 4 cardinal directions

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xdd

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I didnt know there were correct spots to place them

half star
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On heroic it’s right of marker, on marker, left of marker, since they spin at a different speed

bronze meadow
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what do ppl use for tracking abundance past 12?

cunning parcel
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Also focus the fk out of the seed carriers

cunning parcel
thorn plover