resto

[stable verge]

Who knows if the Great Push will be allowed to

[golden pulsar]

the AA bird skip is super cool

well not skip, clip.

[stable verge]

Bad side is that freacking wind shit mob in AA

[thorn plover]

Snap

[grizzled seal]

You mean snapping

[golden pulsar]

snap, ye

lol

[modern spade]

tgp strats usualy dont clip because an evade gone wrong is a 1 shot, and the pulls might be too big for high keys

[grizzled seal]

All these tricks are the best parts of speed runs

Literally banned fun from fun mode

[golden pulsar]

they run 16s tho

[stable verge]

15-17 yeah so fairly mid keys

[golden pulsar]

For people being pros thats not rly that high.

[stable verge]

As per usual

Well you can't do crazy fun pulls in a 23

[golden pulsar]

if i get to 3.4k this season ill be happy, thats all i want.

[grizzled seal]

That's why I said fun mode

[stable verge]

Pulling whole ass Nexus point area at once though, that's fun

[thorn plover]

I'd rather see crazy tech to do 24s

Than watch them pull an entire wing

[golden pulsar]

i cant even phantom how they survive that even if its a 16.

[grizzled seal]

I think great push is better but MDI without snapping and bug abuse is literally watching paint dry tier event

[thorn plover]

Yeah I haven't been watching it

It's boring af

[kind star]

watching 1 guy in the party run all the way to a pack to make it walk ALL THE WAY back to the party is HUGE content wdym!

[glossy holly]

well there certainly was unique tactics with teleports and such

[spark river]

The shit gingi and rycn did on maisara was fun

[kind star]

I only really watched that algethar run

[kind star]

😂 crazy name

[glossy holly]

as dumb as it sounds like, that may invite few reports

but nice name

[rustic copper]

holy moly

is my alt the most geared rdruid on NA now

[kind star]

whats the ilvl

[rustic copper]

max ilvl after I farm the shard things

[glossy holly]

insane

[gentle charm]

can someone remind me: are we doing guardian or feral after we have all the trinkets we want from vault?

[glossy holly]

ferals arent common thats for sure

[gentle charm]

err, I meant loot spec wise

[glossy holly]

well

thats feral then

im not sure what u are after though

[gentle charm]

i remember reading that feral or guardian had less trinkets so we should loot spec them for vault

[glossy holly]

eh

it may be true for trinkets

but loot spec to agi based spec also increases chance to loot agi weapons

[zealous scarab]

I guess bonus rolls can repeat if you roll in different specs. Rip

[thorn plover]

The rich get richer

[gentle charm]

[glossy holly]

welp

my words came true

[gentle charm]

finally I can try out feral

[glossy holly]

have fun kitten

[thorn plover]

Idt anyone plays feral anymore

There's like 100 feral parses in raid lol

[gentle charm]

every feral I've seen in my m+ groups has absolutely demolished the meters tbh

[thorn plover]

Top 100 parse by existing

They're not terrible in keys, just hard for them to get an invite

Every group has a bear or a tree

[glossy holly]

oddly enough

i've seen like 2 parties with 2 ferals

[gentle charm]

its funny that an all druid party would kinda slap

[thorn plover]

I had a full guild all druid group last season lol

[haughty ibex]

that’s crazy versa

[gentle charm]

blizz pls make motw stack

[haughty ibex]

but it does doesn’t it?

with bear me and him both get 6%

[gentle charm]

[thorn plover]

That's your own talent

That's not from it stacking

You always get 6%

[glossy holly]

yeah improved buff effect

if it did stack, ppl would always have a set number of druids in raids

[haughty ibex]

oh

HSHAH

[idle lake]

do warlock players really have souls ?

[haughty ibex]

i thought it was new tech

[glossy holly]

at least i know i have a soul

[thorn plover]

If it stacked you'd just fill your raid with druids plus 1 of each relevant raid buff

Be broken af

[idle lake]

the birds that jump to u and do a 5 second cast and then deal damage infront of themselves

had my warlock die to it

multiple times in a row

💔

never play keys 5 hours before reset

[haughty ibex]

what are u even talking about man

[idle lake]

in maisara

the eagles

[haughty ibex]

oh

okay now i get u

[idle lake]

they jump at u then do nothing for (long enough for u to react) and then attack

[haughty ibex]

okay but u could have vortex one then typhoon the other then roar the other one

just saying

ur fault

[viral sonnet]

Can just move out of their way too

As in the Warlock could have

[glossy holly]

hmh never thought about using vortex

not that those birds are annoying or anything

less pressure on melee dudes

[haughty ibex]

they aren’t i was trolling sorry

i mean if u vortex the cast gets cancelled

[kind star]

yeah but then if they move away their m+ parse is ruined

[glossy holly]

m+ parsing lol

[kind star]

I was meming ofc :3

[mental crystal]

It's a solid meme

[tough portal]

Druids read their own spells challenge

[drifting timber]

I didn’t read lifebloom until the buff.

[thorn plover]

Druids read their own spells challenge

[kind star]

I was told blizzard tooltips are trash so im not reading em!

[thorn plover]

[drifting timber]

If they were in brill that’d probably help more of us

[pine needle]

I have a macro that is
/stopcasting
/cancelform

but I'm having an issue where it won't cancel form if I have a party frame moused over, like prepping to use mouseover heal on them, does anyone know a fix or if I need to change macro / setting?

[thorn plover]

Brill

[haughty ibex]

i don’t read left tree ever in any class don’t care

💯💯 straight into key

[spark river]

thats pretty toxic ngl

[radiant narwhal]

@marsh prism Bishes got 11% P4 that’s gotta hurt

[craggy lake]

Would I be better off upgrade my gaze and keep using my 285 crafted weapon, or upgrading the 1 hander off belo and using a 289 OH and equipping crafted cloak.

[sudden rover]

that's a weird one yeah

have u asked chatgpt?

[spark river]

Just upgrade everything lol

[craggy lake]

yes i get that but see i play maybe 4 hours a week

so im not able to just upgrade everything in 1 day

[spark river]

Doesnt have to be in 1 day

[craggy lake]

correct but i just got my 1st upgrade today

[thorn plover]

upgrade your 285 crafted

[fervent path]

god bless

[glossy holly]

my druid is still stuck with lfr version

[fervent path]

my first purple M log POG?

[glossy holly]

i really need to get lucky

[fervent path]

kek

97% lb uptime up from 53% last kill character development

[glossy holly]

[sudden rover]

cringe 😹

[robust badge]

If I knew what this said I would be very offended

[fervent path]

whats an okay ratio for RG:Rejuv in raid?

[thorn whale]

6:7

It depends what fight you’re looking at. You can do 1:1 or sometimes you’ll have to rejuv more depending on movement

[weary trail]

Am I supposed to be lifeblooming myself in mythic +?

[fervent mica]

if you're the one who needs healing

[hasty current]

Is your 1 hander mythic? If not why wouldn't you upgrade your 285 crafted

[strange wren]

I move it around to whoever needs most healing- usually mage or hunter

[marsh prism]

it's a tough fucking boss

but yeah that's brutal

idk

feels bogus to get even remotely close and then they just nuke the bullshit that makes it "hard"

[dry belfry]

jestermaxxing in front of l'ura dodging her glaives

and then king blizzard comes in to save the day (ruins the boss)

[marsh prism]

real

[thorn plover]

Idk what you said but it's probably offensive

[stiff ruin]

anyone else get this kind of bug:

or sometimes the raid gorup doesn't even appear and i have to press "edit mode" and it fixes everything

[fervent path]

Nice looks like ill have to fill in as heal on Lura, whats that for a first prog boss as heal lmao

Kinda scared ngl but at least beloren has to die first so I have time to prepare

[dusk jungle]

can we sim 298 items in QE Live ?

[abstract tulip]

Every time they move people groups. Just reload ui or open edit mode

[stiff ruin]

yea its'r eally annoying 🙁

[fervent mica]

yeah

[dusk jungle]

we have to manualy add ? i did not find an option to "convert to voidforged"

[marsh prism]

me about 2pc before: dont be stupid

me about 2pc now:

walking away from my computer only going to return when i can be more reasonable

[radiant narwhal]

Yo I need those

[golden pulsar]

Quick question. Is Plater back as it used to be ? because after the prune i swaped to platynator, but ive been having some issues.

[thorn plover]

ive been on plater for quite a while

jundies profile is almost same like tww

[golden pulsar]

I used Plater for ages, but when midnight dropped it all went to shit so

[thorn plover]

its good now

[golden pulsar]

Might do the swap then. Platynator doest highlight or make bars bigger when casting ect.

it overlaps a lot, some times its hard to even find who is casting

[fervent mica]

yeah /-:

[thorn plover]

do you guys have your +3 stam glove enchant? its mandatory

[rustic copper]

how

[hallow fractal]

is there a script or something to see what youve bonus rolled?

[rocky lodge]

how is everyone spending their lil vault tokens, is it better to take a reroll over another socket atm?

i have 2 rolls for gaze and then 1 leftover if i take reroll which i want to use on nxp for chance at the weapon

but wonder if socket is better rn and then take reroll next week

[fallen compass]

For a whopping 60 hp.

[fervent mica]

had someone die with 185 overkill last night... it could matter. lol

[fallen compass]

I bet people are charging out the a## for it too.

They still would have died.

[fervent mica]

its 750g

[fervent mica]

that time, yeah

its all a meme anyway

[fallen compass]

Most people would think it's more HP for all the chatter you see.

[fervent mica]

roll first, if you don't get what you need then revisit the question

[rocky lodge]

ty friend

[thorn plover]

only once youve started the key

or you can hover over the bonus roll icon at the end to see whats available

[fallen compass]

Those comments would be worth a thumbs up if we could give them. lol

[haughty ibex]

if u have ksl it tells u when u open what u rolled on

but i think u cant get it now if u didnt have b4

[thorn plover]

Only loot youve rolled since you had the addon

[haughty ibex]

ye exactly

[thorn plover]

you can go into the lua and manually add it

if you know

[hallow fractal]

cool ty

[thorn plover]

ok crown prog time, i think it dies tonight

it should... lol

why are augment runes so expensive wtf

great start

RIP cauldrons

[fervent mica]

woof

[exotic zephyr]

how valuable is avoidance currently

[thorn plover]

10% 3rd pull

doesnt look like details is double counting absorbs anymore

[thorn plover]

crown dead

:/

[shadow iris]

Crawth releases a loud screech, causing a sonic eruption at all player locations, inflicting 61014 Nature damage and additional 20338 Nature damage every 1 sec for 8 sec to all players within 4 yards of each location.
This effect interrupts spell casts and also silences any player interrupted in this manner for 6 sec.
dumb question but does deafening screech only interrupt at the instant when it gets cast? or does it interrupt for the entire 8s duration?
also, is it safe to cast instants like rejuv, swiftmend etc? or do instant casts also get silenced?

[compact umbra]

Hrmm Is it weapon up to 298 first or Trinket?

[zealous scarab]

You're fine to cast instants and only it interrupts when it goes off

Weapon first

[compact umbra]

I figured

[shadow iris]

thanks

[fervent mica]

the items aren't limited. just farm out for everything

[compact umbra]

Just wanted to confirm there weren't any crazy maths going into Gaze

[cobalt thorn]

Instants won't silence you, and it'll only lock you out if you're in the middle of casting a non-instant when the screech goes off

[proven phoenix]

wow....

[wicked veldt]

waow

[thorn plover]

grats

[proven phoenix]

we're back

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-turn-to-dust-finnicklomlgif-gif-6202351048420329284

[hazy spoke]

Tonight I was failing to heal some 17s. I’m not too sure if efflorescence or a lack of defensives is the issue… if someone has 2 rejuvs, WG, and I’m spamming regrowth on them, but they’re still rotting out, should I be putting lifebloom on them? Or should I just expect them to be in efflorescence more?

Only having issues healing a warlock and a mage

Would specing into reforestation help with burst healing some of the rot?

[lament river]

They removed crest cap?

[lunar sun]

What rot were they dying to? Who was your lifebloom on?

Reforestation would not help

[river comet]

yeap

[radiant narwhal]

ngl this is hot

298 ribbon + gaze is crazy

• BiS staff

[hazy spoke]

Most notable one for me was the first boss of Caverns, the one with the pet bird. When doing the targeted ability that he shots them with a shotgun or something for an extended amount of time, they’d just slowly rot to death .

[thorn plover]

dispel them

[hazy spoke]

It goes back onto them during the next hit of the ability

[lunar sun]

You can just rotate a cd. You won’t need it elsewhere

[thorn plover]

wait til hes done casting

then dispel

[lunar sun]

Convoke, tranq, swiftmend into nature swiftness regrowth

[thorn plover]

but the entire time theyre being beamed, you could ironbark them, or just spam regrowth on them with 2 rejuv

tons of options there

[lunar sun]

The disease you can handle just through maintenance

[hazy spoke]

Does that dot ramp the damage? I’m dispelling maybe 1/2 or 1/4 into the channel

[river comet]

no its jsut a slow

[outer stone]

did we get nerfed again? why does my haste feel so slow

[thorn plover]

no?

[hazy spoke]

So blowing a tranq for just one person isn’t a big deal there?

[thorn plover]

you shouldnt need to tranq

[lunar sun]

Where else do you need it

[thorn plover]

what key level are we talking

[outer stone]

ok i must be tripping then

[lunar sun]

But yeah you shouldn’t need it

[hazy spoke]

17

[thorn plover]

yeah you should have no issue just keeping them up with regrowths there

[lunar sun]

It’s just to handle the initial chaos if multiple people are hit at the start

[thorn plover]

yeah thats fine

ideally people are smart enough to spread before that

but in a pug who knows

[hazy spoke]

Shouldn’t need efflorescence under them either right?

[thorn plover]

efflo is basically nothing

[lunar sun]

^

But again

[thorn plover]

you can move LB to them if you want

[lunar sun]

Your lifebloom can be moved

[hazy spoke]

Don’t ya have to be within it for verdency though?

[lunar sun]

It doesn’t cost you much

[thorn plover]

but you really dont need to

i think youre way overthinking this

2 rejuvs, and spam them with regrowth

gg

im not moving LB or using a CD on them in 19s

[marsh prism]

pick one, 2rejuv, spam regrowth. they will get hit with wg if you're in a normal spot too

for second set i swapped to rh and barked one

[hazy spoke]

Are they using defensives in the 19s though?

[marsh prism]

mein gott

i a

bro i ASSUMED

[thorn plover]

they should be in 17 too, if they have it

you have bark also

[marsh prism]

i go now

https://i0.hdslb.com/bfs/new_dyn/1aaa1f072d0e5847efe0061573ee2389406949928.gif@222w_162h_1e_1c.avif

[proven phoenix]

goodbye

[marsh prism]

im just procrastinating and completely misguessed the topic

[hazy spoke]

So in raid, we should swiftmend the lifebloom target. In m+, we should do the same right? Or just swiftmend whoever is lowest?

[marsh prism]

depends on vi or prosp

[hazy spoke]

Either or. I’m assuming prosp would be lowest hp target, VI on lifebloom right?

[lunar sun]

You don’t have to always swiftmend the lifebloom target. It’s certainly better to extend the most hots but if it baits you into keeping lifebloom on tank forever then you should be more flexible

Swiftmends actual heal isn’t terrible. You try to consume a wildgrowth or regrowth with it if you’re running prosp

But I assume most are running VI

[hazy spoke]

I typically just run VI. It’s nice when I was running reforestation, but doesn’t feel as necessary now that I’m not.

[sinful jackal]

o/

safe travels

stay warm

[marsh prism]

i have to go back out again soon

but for now im working on my soundscape composition final

[unique sedge]

Rate this build?

for m+

[grand herald]

keeper ew

[proven phoenix]

isnt that the old no apex build before buffs

why would you play that

[pulsar kettle]

hmm

[river comet]

limited damage options,
keeper (more a raid or pvp hero talent),
no apex,
reforestation,
wildgrowth has the raid talent instead of the ironbarkcd taking the swiftmend boost path for bottom right
verdant instead of second swiftmend

[hearty coral]

might as well go doc at that point amirite

[frail prawn]

Guys, do you think it's better to upgrade Corespark Multitool ( Mastery/Haste Staff ) and lose the embellishment or to use crafted One-Hand with embellishment and Maxed Mastery/Haste Off-Hand?

[pulsar kettle]

surely thats simmable

[river comet]

corespark and get a lower budget slot with embellishment personally but sim it

[frail prawn]

Ty

[unique sedge]

just a druid in my 12 key

[proven phoenix]

oh

well its also a raid build

not ideal for keys

[sinful jackal]

That's so cool

[marsh prism]

unfortunately i am pretty cool

brings me no pleasure to admit it

[glossy holly]

very humble

[proven phoenix]

it pains to admit how good looking, intelligent, strong and humble I am as well

someone has to let the people know though

[tough portal]

Doing God's work

[silver zenith]

im having a vault crisis...

so i had a week without a lot of WOW

So i only did some LFR

now afaik the trincket is BiS!
But its only veteran!

i only have Blue "hands" so im theory that would be am upgrade

So does the power of the trincket outweight the fact that is only veteran? or should i strictly go after upgrading to champ?

[glossy holly]

take the trinket absolutely

every single man and woman is trying to snatch the trinket

and drop itself is pretty rare

so yeah take it if u dont have one

even im running with lfr version

as 270+ilvl

[silver zenith]

@glossy holly Tricket it is! 😄

usually its itemlevel is king..but i knew people where raving about this one

[lament river]

I got heart of the wind mythic but feels sadge to replace my hc ribbon 🙁

Q/E says heart of the wind is 0;25 upgrade

[glossy holly]

for m+ yeah im sure its better

as for raiding, ribbon is prolly better than wind though

[lament river]

Q/E live says its better for raiding

[glossy holly]

man

thats boosted wind

u are comparing to regular myth max

[lament river]

its boosted ribbonb to

[glossy holly]

oh

[lament river]

....

[glossy holly]

[radiant narwhal]

is there a convoke tracker?

[glossy holly]

idk why its showing 285 while others have boosted ilvl

[proven phoenix]

did you upload a log of a fight, ribbon gets a lot more value on longer pulls

[marsh prism]

for what

[radiant narwhal]

whats cast during convoke

[vale topaz]

Hello, i've been doing some sims and i am constantly loosing around 1% hps by not using a crafted weapon despite using some version of optimal gearing according to guides

[marsh prism]

yeah i know i just wanna know what you want one for

[vale topaz]

If annyone have an idea

[glossy holly]

u will see what heals have been casted during convoke on heal frames anyway

[marsh prism]

i dont think one exists any longer

[radiant narwhal]

just 4fun

[marsh prism]

nothing is fun about that rng i promise

deadarse zimbitaposting vibes

[glossy holly]

weapon option probably doesnt have an enchant?

there is no way same ilvl weapon and good stats is 2k downgrade

[marsh prism]

you're missing embellishments without it

[vale topaz]

my crafted gear have embelish on this sim

[glossy holly]

yeah u lose embellish while m track item doesnt have an embellish

ofc non embellish item loses

[exotic quail]

so is crafted weapon with embel better compared to a mythic weapon from dungeon/raid with haste mastery?

[glossy holly]

or u can just get 2 arcanoweaves

[cunning parcel]

Crazy tmog

[exotic quail]

oh that is what i have 2 arcanoweaves and a mythic corespark for weap

[vale topaz]

not the usual one, i disconnected in this 🥸

[vale topaz]

my problem is that the crafts i used in the sim have arcanoweave

[glossy holly]

did u already take cloak from vault

[vale topaz]

nah

[glossy holly]

im not sure if that icon 285 cloak in the sim is crafted one or not but either craft cloak and put arcano embellish on it/recraft it with embellish

small budget items ilvl difference to m track is very small anyways

[vale topaz]

a guildie used my simC and had different results with the same input

whatever i guess

[dire hinge]

wondered why the druid in my raid was a bit struggling, poor fella didn't press lb once

[glossy holly]

[spark river]

I never imagined getting in a weekly key would be harder than an 18

but here we a re

[rain elk]

I just healed a 15WS, was harder than the 18 I did earleir this week

[dire hinge]

makes sense

until mistakes are lethal, healers gotta fix em

[dire hinge]

just do ur weekly keys in 18

ik im smart

I can almost spot a single semblance of a curve on my almost perfectly smooth brain

[small wolf]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/jbxVgRBKQcWHYfD8?fight=last&position=1317134

sorry could anyone tell me if Im doing sthg wrong haha? WHen i compare it seems like my HPS is alright? (But pls do let me know if im wrong) But still had 6 deaths 🙁

I realise im casting regrowth like way more than normal but thats cus even when I dont ppl still die 🙁 there were a total of 6 deaths in this POS +16 run

I do find myself dying in this dungeon to torrent of misery a lot, like i dont understand ppl can die while im mid casting cus it does so big dmg

for example was there a realsitc way for me to react to this death? he dropped to zero in like 2s

but besides these, i was justwondering if theres a reason im hard stuck on 17s haha

[sweet yew]

how much does rdruid drink in keys

[dire hinge]

I wont speak for high keys, but so far I didn't have to drink once

wait no I lied, I did have to drink before I actually started reading how the spec works

[bleak lion]

in 18s, i do find myself having to drink before some boss pulls

[sweet yew]

hm but not like every 2-3 pulls

19-20 range

[dire hinge]

most likely not

[bleak lion]

dont think so but havent done that level yet

[dire hinge]

just looking up some 20+ runs from resto pov and they barely have to drink, altho if ur pugging ig its a different story

[vivid peak]

if you need to drink often you're clicking rejuv too much

[rain elk]

Not really drinking at 18s, but I also still play sahpeshifter so I get mana when I do dmg

as boomie

[median marsh]

you didn't actually cast any healing on him during this time

need to be spamming regrowth on him esp since he already had HOTs

[primal jungle]

This is the issue. You should be drinking at 21s, not 18s(far too young)

[rustic coyote]

Hi all, did ever had a bug at pit of saron last boss where the empowered bone pile, although frozen, did not prevent the plaguespreader to spawn? We have a case issue in our +18

[fervent mica]

i could see it bugging out if you stand on a pile. lol z-axis to miss

[rain elk]

Not even close to getting there yet, Im cruising in 18s slowly into 19s

[fervent mica]

they were making a joke about the drinking age

[reef holly]

hey guys, how good is leech? QE says, i should play HC leech helmet from last boss rather than mytic helmet, but i guess thats bait?

[stoic hornet]

guys. Wind of heart 298 or Ribbon 285? QE live is weird about this showing them have same hps in "best trinkets" page but on my personal sim it says heart is better by 0.3%

[rustic coyote]

Even if you could clearly see them frozen?

[fervent mica]

spaghetti code is real

[small wolf]

gotcha but am i crazy because the torrent seems to be an insta cast so I cant really prep in advance on a specific person haha, and then after it casts he dies in 2 seconds. Is there a way i could actually predict the target of the torrent?

[fervent mica]

just listen to the robot. you are probably lacking haste

[radiant narwhal]

does the boss die Y/N

[glossy holly]

leech is not good if u got healths tapped so its kinda whatever

[fervent mica]

bad stats vs good stats

[glossy holly]

if item is upgrade and got good stats, leech is just a bonus

[old panther]

Do you guys just have lifebloom swift mend selfcast macros ?

[glossy holly]

we do not advocate such macros since u shouldnt be swifting only LB target

[cunning parcel]

suspicious drop

[glossy holly]

had it in vault, didnt take it

[cunning parcel]

with leech tho

[lament river]

I woulnt take ir

*it

[cunning parcel]

I rolled it

[old panther]

To use swift mend as a panic heal ? Or why

[glossy holly]

swift does do decent instant heal

[old panther]

But light bloom can be selfcast then ?

[cunning parcel]

current trinkets only gaze is myth

[solid hemlock]

boom. mythic heart of wind in my vault

[old panther]

Life*

[fervent mica]

you should be in raid.

[glossy holly]

yeah well raid

lifebloom macro is also something only to be considered in raids

or if u are ''weakest'' member of party in m+

[median marsh]

just have to react fast, can see who the mob is channeling on / who has the debuff than external them / swiftmend / NS>Regrowth

but just 1 regrowth there gives you enough time to cast another

esp since you already had hots out, 1 regrowth delays his death timer by another global or 2

[small wolf]

Gotcha haha... Such suffering 🥲

[rustic coyote]

Lol, I guess the dear blizzy won't do anything

[stable verge]

Tbh depending on the keys you do I wouldn't take feather. And in raid even less so

[cunning parcel]

yee I think im just waiting til next week to get my myth heart

6 rerolls deep

[fervent mica]

the same number of rerolls i've spent for gaze...

next week... lol

[dire hinge]

i only use them for raid

[cunning parcel]

op strat just click the wall or ceiling or something and you always self cast the spell

no macro required

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/wild-wild-stuff-seinfeld-gif-13699206688270984052

[cunning parcel]

WAIITTTTTT

thats the same cooldown as my dream of cenarius

[spark river]

nexus point ring is the only item left on the loot table for me lol

next week i guess

[fervent mica]

it feels really bad using bonus rolls for gaze when literally every other person in my raid has one... but it doesn't drop

[cunning parcel]

I feel like this is the week where everyone is 1 off exhausting the loot pool

[fervent mica]

i exhausted the loot pool in npx week 1... when i got ring before the refund. lol

never rolled there again

[spark river]

Just need the ring to be 290 zzzz

[fervent mica]

i was 290 in bags last week... does that count?

[spark river]

i also have some random stuff for balance druid in my bags lol

[cunning parcel]

crazy work

[radiant narwhal]

guys remember when efflo was a ground cast???

[fervent mica]

still is, if you hate yourself

[velvet cloak]

Remember when efflo was a glyph on wild mushroom, and you could stack up healing into your mushroom and explode it for insane aoe burst heals?

[radiant narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/bed-grandpa-gif-9487085887044394933

[kind star]

is that huh cata?

[velvet cloak]

MoP

[kind star]

wild mushroom bloom ah u right 😛

[thorn plover]

Gm

[dire hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-good-morning-gandalf-morning-morning-gandalf-morn-gif-17912632

[thorn plover]

Raid was done super early last night, thought I'd catch an early bed time

Nope

Played D4 til 2am

[dire hinge]

sanctuary aint gon save itself now will it

[thorn plover]

🫩

[fervent mica]

too busy shaving itself to save itself.

[thorn plover]

right click simulator is addicting

[dire hinge]

they need strong and benevolent... spawn of satan itself that spawns even more demons to save em!

[thorn plover]

I gotta learn about beloren for tonight

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-bird-funny-song-gif-4392525

^ all you need to know

[dire hinge]

but is the bird da word... or is word da bird

[knotty tapir]

Hello everybody
Is there a way to track the rejuvenations that I have active on me? Aside of the ones that are shown in my frame

[grizzled seal]

What

[dire hinge]

looking at the frame usually helps! but there's prolly some addon idk

[vivid peak]

you can look at your buffs top right

[dire hinge]

me when I look at top right and there's like 20 buffs there

[spark river]

i have not taken a look at top right ever

[dire hinge]

its even more fun when they keep moving

lol

[thorn plover]

It could be done with a weakaura quite easily, (or a whole add-on) but I'm not sure why you'd want to

[primal jungle]

I appreciate you

[thorn plover]

Already changed the bloodlust add-on to this for tonight

[thorn plover]

How do you get out of bear form

[spark river]

Is this a serious question

[kind star]

yall dont right click your buff to go out of shapeshift?

[thorn plover]

Yeah I didn't know there was another way

I almost wiped on crown yesterday because I went travel form to jump the gap but couldn't find the buff up in the top right to click it off. Was almost tragic

[thorn plover]

😏

Come on

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/hanging-clown-funny-hanging-by-a-small-tree-gif-11998591

[spark river]

are you ragebaiting or what is this

[thorn plover]

👀

[thorn plover]

Have you killed crown

[kind star]

so annoying how in pos after a garg grabs you, you get that lindormis guidance buff.

[thorn plover]

Lol what, really?

The one that makes the mobs glow for tanks?

[kind star]

yeah I keep clicking it off everytime well not exactly that one its like arrows pointing right

[thorn plover]

Lol I've never noticed that

[whole horizon]

what

[kind star]

Ill take a screenshot next time

[spark river]

brother im still on paladins

guild search at this moment is a meme

[thorn plover]

🙁

I think crown was significantly easier than paladins

[kind star]

I hope we get thru lu'ra hc thursday....

[spark river]

I mean paladins are also easy, its just that i need to wait for other people to learn not to run into a shield or hammer

[thorn plover]

Yeah that's really the entire fight

[balmy spire]

i feel you

[thorn plover]

I got the haste mast pants off crown last night, so I'm running those, npx chest, crafted shoulders now

[small granite]

Hey guys, is there a braindead m+ build just for getting 3.4k and no higher?

I tried resto druid at the start of the season but really hated the whole germination whack-a-mole simulator and Im much more of a reactive healer kinda guy

Is there anything that is less ramp-y more reactive that does less HPS but will be chill just to run 16s with?

[balmy spire]

we had 6% pala wipe yday

[thorn plover]

Just the normal build . We aren't a reactive class

[small granite]

I'm fully aware, thats why Im asking if there's any non-meta builds that play more reactive or don't use germ

[thorn plover]

You don't really play around germ regardless

[spark river]

You re playing the wrong healer

if reactive is what you like

[small granite]

I'm not playing resto druid I just want 3.4k that's all

[thorn plover]

Go bear

Free 3.4k

2 buttons

[small granite]

I mean 3.4k as resto druid

Im doing prevoker after which I hate with a passion but its only 16s so

Gotta be done

[thorn plover]

Idk what to tell you, there isn't a magic build that changes the entire way the class functions

[whole horizon]

the sky isnt brown and resto druid doesnt have a build that encourages reactive gameplay

[kind star]

rdruid always been a proactive healer

[whole horizon]

2 facts that will not change today

[solid hemlock]

I was going to suggest prevoker but seems like you don't like it

[spark river]

Next week I probably drop 4set for maisara shoulders and nexus point ring

[thorn plover]

Dropping that tier ring eh

[small granite]

Nws, was just asking if there were any non meta builds out there as the healers I play can change wildly depending on the build

I'll just play the normal build and suck it up for some 16s xd

[spark river]

shut up

you know what i meant

i ll have 40%+ haste with that

[thorn plover]

I'm at 44% rn

I will craft a neck today and be at 45

[wise galleon]

Why are you maximizing haste over having mastery-haste balance?

[thorn plover]

Because haste is king

[wise galleon]

I just trust simming and im happy

[thorn plover]

Sim tells me haste

Sim has never told me yet to take a mastery heavy piece

If it is, you probably have the dungeon button selected

[wise galleon]

Its also true I run dungeon only so ^^

[thorn plover]

Yeah dungeon focus more on mastery

[solid hemlock]

qe is telling me mastery and my haste is only 30% before procs. Maybe i had dungeon selected.

[kind star]

but 31%!

[wise galleon]

I wonder when drakes will be puggable, only doing so far as king in pugging lol

[thorn plover]

I only care about raid

[spark river]

drakes are puggable for some groups

[kind star]

still have yet to pug chim m....

[balmy spire]

got my hc ribbon out of great vault today, biggest upgrade

[lunar fulcrum]

I just wanted to say thx to Blizzard, for "balancing" raid based only, and to put resto druid in m+ from S tier to B tier.

[fluid rapids]

Hey all, potentially swapping to resto to heal for mythic prog and few questions. 1) Do you need to be in moonkin form for the mana gain from master shapeshifter? 2) Does anyone have a good CDM layout? 3) Who do you normally link, the tank or a squishy dps?

[spark river]

b tier in your hands probably

[kind star]

😂

[thorn plover]

We are still S tier in m+ what are you even on about

[thorn plover]

1)Don't go moonkin form at all
2) set it up how YOU like it
3) squishy person

[kind star]

and doesnt matter who you use symbiotic on tbh

[smoky sail]

post your log

[spark river]

You dont even spec into moonkin, everyone has their own preference for cdm so find what works for you, both is fine I go with squishy dps

[glossy holly]

as for mana gain during raid fight, its not really big thing to do

nearly every global goes to heal spell

[kind star]

all you get is hotw+rip for mana

[thorn plover]

Shouldn't even need to take MS in raid

[spark river]

8+ minutes fights maybe, but in general you should be fine with mana

[distant birch]

Im oom at 3

[thorn plover]

9 min crown last night no issues

[smoky sail]

[spark river]

disc priest activities

[smoky sail]

how

[spark river]

Crown does have downtime tho

[thorn plover]

Not much

But ya you're right, maybe 8+ min fights, but even then you just push less wg

Managing mana on this class is so easy

[spark river]

Yeah its just lowering wg cpm and proper use of abundance

[distant birch]

I just send wg on cd...

Have to keep all cooldowns rollin

[radiant narwhal]

man chain wiping like 5:30 into lura is tough

[distant birch]

Man lura is goated

Altho they nerfed dmg even more so you gotta 3 heal now or sth

[whole horizon]

a lot of rdruid players are swapping to MW. its kind of insane.

[distant birch]

Mw is op

[whole horizon]

last week top 2000 keys

[lunar fulcrum]

It's not about any of my logs, just the stats in M+ since last week

[smoky sail]

you do realize that the decrease in M+ popularity mainly came from bear getting over buffed?

[spark river]

i know archon stats when i see them

[whole horizon]

yeah its not really shade on rdruid

[grizzled seal]

Does this mean all the rerollers are going to fuck off from here

[spark river]

yes

[whole horizon]

nope

[spark river]

i hope so

[grizzled seal]

Can I get an amen

[whole horizon]

theyre too invested to back out now

[distant birch]

Mw is just better than rdruid in m+

[spark river]

resto druid dead

[whole horizon]

they didnt gear a MW on the side, so they dont have time to catch up

[distant birch]

Nothing to do with druid buff

[spark river]

spread the word

[bright swift]

the discord is healing

[grizzled seal]

Dude it's so easy to gear up

[smoky sail]

its getting even easier

[grizzled seal]

I have 3 characters higher than 285

[spark river]

yeah gearing up an alt is piss easy, its just that you have to farm an inhuman amount of crests

[grizzled seal]

You don't need to

You pay 10 per upgrade

[whole horizon]

the myth feat crest reduction is silly for it

its just free

[glossy holly]

those crest farm timings are fucked up though man

[tough portal]

Players that supposedly wanna play the game when they need to play the game:

[whole horizon]

:

[distant birch]

Game = Raid

[lunar fulcrum]

Not mainly. It's Bear buff + some dps buff + no nerf on MW + no nerf on sham heal + nerf on rdruid. Otherwise, how do you explain that people prefer going with sham or even MW when they got a monk tank in the party ?

[distant birch]

Minigame = Rest

[spark river]

what nerf on druid

[grizzled seal]

MW is actually decently fun in raid but I despise it in keys

[smoky sail]

oh yes the 5% really killed resto

[lunar fulcrum]

Yes

[grizzled seal]

The only way to make it fun in keys is to run realistic spin WA

[smoky sail]

[bright swift]

[spark river]

From S to B tier from a 5% nerf in keys

[grizzled seal]

Do people actually believe this

[spark river]

He clearly does

But hes also citing archon data

[whole horizon]

i think you're misrepresenting what he said

[spark river]

so it is what it is

[smoky sail]

we might be falling for generational ragebait

[fervent path]

Idk my druid is 288.3 and only spent like 300 and change crests

[whole horizon]

and it's not "archon data" just because its aggregated. aggregate data is useful for determining trends.

that's literally why it was put together

[grizzled seal]

When is this trend going to result in less m+ talk in this chat

I wanna see tangible results

[smoky sail]

in S2 when druid wont be the FOTM healer for the half of the season

[grizzled seal]

Can't wait

[spark river]

I want to gear up my disc priest but kinda lazy for it

[distant birch]

Dont bother

Its trash

[balmy spire]

i heard s2 tier set will be biiig

[grizzled seal]

People who think disc heals better in keys have piss for brains

[spark river]

I mean I played disc before druid so I kinda like it

[distant birch]

Same

[lunar fulcrum]

You can troll, but first of all, it wasn't 5%, but more like 7-8%. Ok ? And even 5%, when your main strentgh is your hps (MW now heals more, dps more), it hurts a lot. + you buff Bear => B Tier.

[grizzled seal]

It wasn't 7-8% in keys

[fervent path]

Alt gearing is basically gated by bonus rolls atm, the time it takes to get the bis pieces almost overlaps with crest acquisition in my experience

[lunar fulcrum]

Monk tank is still strong. But everyone is going MW, sham or even disco. But no, Druid is still S tier

Ok guys

[smoky sail]

read the pins first, before you dump random numbers

[grizzled seal]

It was 7-8% in raid where you play around it which you don't in m+

[whole horizon]

it's not that they made druid any worse, they just buffed other classes

the slight nerf to hps was a contributing factor but not a major one

[smoky sail]

you also kinda forget that Resto DPS is kinda meh in keys

compared to MW

[grizzled seal]

I don't think we give a fuck about being S tier or whatever the fuck else

[smoky sail]

and in higher keys healer DPS starts to matter

[lunar fulcrum]

No, I wrote it

[distant birch]

Druid is D tier

[grizzled seal]

I just have issues with people not understanding the spec and talking about it

[fervent path]

Shaman is S tier

[distant birch]

Yep so is miSt weaver

[whole horizon]

that's why they're voicing their opinions on a public forum, so you can bash and correct them as needed

[fervent path]

[grizzled seal]

I am not bashing

[whole horizon]

you should be

[grizzled seal]

When I'm bashing you will know immediately

[whole horizon]

that's how people here learn

[grizzled seal]

I mean it from my heart but it seems to be the complexity of the spec might play a role here

[smoky sail]

wanna be FOTM players should just get muted on sight

[spark river]

the difference from key healing to raid healing for shaman is kinda funny

[grizzled seal]

It's much easier to press sck than to actually play the game as a druid

[lunar fulcrum]

If you read me instead of trying to go against me for no reason, I didn't say it was hps nerf only. It's Hps nerf + Bear buff + other dps classes buffs. All I'm saying is nerfing druid hps was unnecessary based on other classes buffs

[distant birch]

You legit dont need to know any mechanic on trash as mw

U literally just spin

[spark river]

yeah everyone is playing mw because its basically triple kick into spin

[kind star]

bosses are the 'hard' part

[grizzled seal]

They nerfed apex because druid was doing a lot more hps than others objectively speaking

[spark river]

There is no skill expression in keys on that class

[whole horizon]

even jdotb, roiiben, and vickman have abandoned us

they're all mw now

[spark river]

You just bring funnel for bosses and its the same

[fervent path]

Why are people that arent pushing 23s worried at rdruid being less meta or we ?

[grizzled seal]

I think you are on some strong stuff if you don't think so

[kind star]

but then you got conduit,litanny,revival and chiji for boss.

[distant birch]

Dont have to push 23s to benefit from a stronger spec

[glossy holly]

meta is a strong word that brainwashes lesser beings, sory

[fervent path]

But is it weak tho

[smoky sail]

Are you just mad your time went to waste and you cant gear your monk?

[distant birch]

Doesnt matter tbh

[fervent path]

Do you just want resto to full hp ppl with 1 button is that it

I like having to press my abilitirs

[whole horizon]

nobody wants that

[fervent path]

I tried MW hated it its literally too easy

[whole horizon]

if anything SCK should be deleted from the game

[lunar fulcrum]

And so what ? Hps is all rdruid has in raid bro. We have no DR, like Pally or disco. Of course we need a little bit more hps to be competitive. But Blizzard keeps trying to balance percteniles as the classes and specs are all different

[whole horizon]

should have happened 6 seasons ago but who am i

[grizzled seal]

There were people playing DoC build and then I'm sitting here reading druid healing nerfs affected something

[spark river]

SCK is not the proble, way of the crane is

[grizzled seal]

Nobody cares about DR which disc doesn't even have anymore btw

[spark river]

If way of the crane didnt heal that much, they wouldnt be played like at all

[lunar fulcrum]

Since i'm not unemplyed, yes. I don't have enough time to play and gear 2 or 3 characters, sorry

[distant birch]

Monk is pretty vibes in keys tho, i like more dmg oriented playstyle

[glossy holly]

huh

[spark river]

He didnt really use the unemployed excuse

[whole horizon]

no because then it's just back to the status quo

[grizzled seal]

There are no mechanics in raid where you need DR and specifically nothing other specs bring even offers legitimate amount of DR in the first place

[lunar fulcrum]

I'm talking about the way they used to balance anyway omg

[glossy holly]

u only need to play like 2 hours each day doing m+

[whole horizon]

the problem with SCK existing is that they force themselves to balance around it

[grizzled seal]

Used to balance what or when

[glossy holly]

other content isnt worth to do at all once u reach 250ilvl anyways

[grizzled seal]

Have you been raiding this tier at all?

[smoky sail]

post logs

[rustic coyote]

I geared my shaman alt to 277 in a week, just doing m+ in the evening after dinner

[whole horizon]

if SCK didnt exist, they would have some incentive to actually balance monk's DPS rotation and ancient teachings output

[rustic coyote]

no excuses

[spark river]

Delves and ritual site are pretty chill solo content to do

[grizzled seal]

I feel like I'm talking to cultists who get their information about what's going on in the game from tier lists

[spark river]

Well aggregation sites

Which is close

[lunar fulcrum]

Good for you bro

[smoky sail]

Should just blindly follow Petko tierlists

[grizzled seal]

You know I used to write the resto druid guide for icy veins

[whole horizon]

its fun talking about the meta because 12 weeks into the season there's literally nothing fucking else happening

[glossy holly]

yeah they are chill, not chill enough to do 8 of them every week for vault tho

[grizzled seal]

And Petko would ask questions about specs and clearly he doesn't understand all of the specs that well

I'm not saying he is bad for that but nobody does

[whole horizon]

so idk if you just want chat to be dead or you just want to sit here and read other ppls logs all day and discuss nothing interesting at all but u do u

[rustic copper]

No one understands Rdruid even

[grizzled seal]

I think a lot of people will benefit from actually learning one spec properly

Instead of half-assing on 3 specs every tier

[distant birch]

Playing 1 spec is boring tbh

[rustic copper]

[grizzled seal]

Playing at low level cuz you never get good enough is even more boring

[spark river]

Well the chat wont be dead if people come with questions rather than claims how the class is dead because they were told so by any form of short video content

[fluid rapids]

Would you use heart of the wind or vaelgor's when paired with a gaze for resto?

[rustic coyote]

I mean, you (general you) can just find your premade group and see that rdruid never died. Just need to stop to pug

[grizzled seal]

Depends on ilvls

[fluid rapids]

285 vaelgor's, could bump heart to max mythic.

[lunar fulcrum]

Anyways, i'm happy to see I could write one post in this chat and get passive-agressives answers for no reason

Take care

[fading knot]

Is there a point where we stop stacking haste and put more mastery in? Looking at gems and enchants

[grizzled seal]

Not really in raid

In m+ you can do that at any point

[distant birch]

No u

[grizzled seal]

Pretty sure heart at mythic beats heroic vaelgors but I'd consult QElive

[thorn whale]

It does

[fading knot]

I guess mainly raid

[thorn whale]

They're almost equal value at 298

[grizzled seal]

In raid you will stack haste ad infinitum

[fading knot]

So just throw haste gems and enchants at it

[grizzled seal]

Haste/mastery gems obviously

But yeah

[fading knot]

Yeah I know that

I'm guessing it's because we tend to not have many mastery stacks on each target?

[spark river]

yeah they re almost equal value at 298 and you dont have to worry about an on use trinket if you play heart

[grizzled seal]

Mostly because we scale from haste that well

More haste more everything really

And you spend extra casts on regrowths which don't cost mana so there is no downside in that regard

[fading knot]

Alright, was just getting worried cause I was sitting at 41%/31%

and thinking maybe it needed more balance

[grizzled seal]

Yeah that's not even high haste lol

I'd start questioning when you get to 50s

Remember we also have a 6% multiplier too

[spark river]

Is it even possible to get 50 in this expansion

[fading knot]

Idek where I'm missing haste lol

No eye of midnight

[grizzled seal]

6% multiplier is actually huge, it makes haste value go up by a lot

[fading knot]

But I've got haste on pretty much every slot, and void suffuser which is 110 more

[grizzled seal]

What do you have instead of Lura ring

That's like 250 haste right there

[fading knot]

Omission of Light / Bifurication band

[grizzled seal]

Also void suffuser is pretty trash

[fading knot]

Yeah but I haven't been able to get anything better

Dying for trinkets this season

[grizzled seal]

I'd run m+ trinkets, vaelgor, ribbon

Ribbon even at heroic is better

[fading knot]

Maybe I should farm for that then

[grizzled seal]

We have a lot of healing events on self at high health so it procs like that often

[gentle nova]

Expansion? Bro u will get 50+ nrxt tier

[fading knot]

I started rolling on alleria for it last week, I got the neck instead

[grizzled seal]

If it procs at >90% health on average it's a very bad trinket

[spark river]

At this moment

[fading knot]

I'm currently sitting on voidforged hero heart and 2/6 suffuser, maybe I do need to just reclear heroic to get the ribbon

[brave valley]

just roll in windrunner for 2 weeks and get both myth probably

[fading knot]

Yeah it's my next and only rolls dungeon now

[spark river]

Why are you not rolling myth gaze

[brave valley]

yeah i'd def stop at myth heart fwiw

if u get it first

[fading knot]

Cause I missed out on it the first week so I decided to just get the rest of my gear up and wait for it to drop

[spark river]

Thats stupid

Gaze is by far the bis trinket at 298

[kind star]

I need to look up that damn fight and pug it

[brave valley]

fight is chill idk just convoke every consume

tranq the ones u can

move like a human

[grizzled seal]

Gaze needs up to 4 weeks of rolls

[brave valley]

[fading knot]

It's 2-8 gear slots I'd be missing

[brave valley]

yeah idk i didn't roll gaze early

[spark river]

If you re incredibly unlucky yeah

[brave valley]

simmed better to upgrade other slots from m+

on average

[spark river]

I needed 3 weeks

[grizzled seal]

Do you have a heroic gaze at least?

[fading knot]

I know it's big but it's a gamble and I was already a week out

I haven't been able to get one of those either

[grizzled seal]

You can just pick reroll tokens from the vault

I assume we are talking about coining mythic alleria now

[fading knot]

That's my plan

and this week I had BIS ring so I took it

[grizzled seal]

You can continue coining that until you get ribbon, then you pick voidcores from vault over items

[fading knot]

Yeah probably

[grizzled seal]

And every 2 weeks you get an extra roll

[fading knot]

I ended up spending a lot of coins on rolling for my weapon

[grizzled seal]

So you roll chimaerus with that and/or after you get ribbon since you started there already

[kind star]

I just need to look how the mechanic to go down works

[fading knot]

My thinking was also that chimerus had shit loot other than the trinket, but alleria at least had the neck

I'll try do a hero clear of both in hope of the trinket upgrades this week

[grizzled seal]

Yeah that's true

But you don't stop at rolling alleria now

[fading knot]

Yeah yeah ofc

[grizzled seal]

Probably a better call than rolling chimaerus with your gear anyway for the reason you said

[fading knot]

I also have every other chimerus drop just from nobody else wanting it lol

[grizzled seal]

Just don't spend rerolls on m+ from now on imo

Did you kill mythic Lura?

[fading knot]

No, still on Beloren

[grizzled seal]

Ok I guess you just finish alleria and chimaerus then

And after that lura

[fading knot]

Hm?

[grizzled seal]

Rolling on them I mean

[fading knot]

Ah, might be yeah

Depends how lucky I get with the loot council and vault :p

[grizzled seal]

This system has a very big incentive on not picking items from vaults but picking rerolls instead

Getting an item doesn't remove it from coin roll pool

[fading knot]

I think the last 3 weeks I took coins yeah, only been taking BIS items

[grizzled seal]

That's only good if it's one item from a boss/dungeon

If you want multiple from that place then you'd never do that

[fading knot]

This week it was

[grizzled seal]

Yeah that's good then

[kind star]

so basically same fight as heroic as healer EXCEPT you get the rift debuff and gotta stack on a marker/the other person to swap?

[brave valley]

yeah

[fading knot]

Yeah

[spark river]

Yes its just the swap

[brave valley]

one extra dmg event too but it's kinda whatever

[fading knot]

And keep to your side while the phases are active

[grizzled seal]

You need to move to the side when you swap

[kind star]

oh thats it....

[brave valley]

oh yeah platform split into 2 sides

yeah idk it's very chill

[grizzled seal]

The biggest part is interrupting the adds but that's not on you

[kind star]

I hate pug and didnt wanna fuck up the mechanic so been avoiding that

[fervent path]

Yesterday was crazy, got M Gaze on my DH, M Gaze on my Druid and M Stare on my Mage
Im waiting for my doctor to tell me I got some terminal illness or smth

Not used to being this lucky

[grizzled seal]

Chimaerus pugs are very bad

[kind star]

even heroic ngl 😂

[fading knot]

So so many pulls dead to that 😭

[kind star]

had a 9m kill on alt

[brave valley]

were u 6 manning boss for 5 mins wtf

9m heroic xd

[spark river]

week 1 heroic vibes

[kind star]

23man

[brave valley]

with 13 healers?

[kind star]

shit dps tho

yeah 6...

look at dat dps xd

[fading knot]

Just checked and the only two items I could want are heart and puzzlebox for feral, so yeah I just stick with alleria > chimerus, maybe roll V&E for cloak + trinket?

but no point having three trinkets

[balmy spire]

That was our Raid DPS on salad bar... if check ilvl against the dps.. thats hard...

[limpid prawn]

Chimerus' trinket is pretty good for feral too

[grizzled seal]

Just craft a cloak and wait for it to drop from the boss

[fading knot]

QE Live is telling me that's negligible difference from my crafted wrist+belt with my haste/crit myth cloak

But yeah not worth rolling for

Oh nvm it's a 37 hps increase XD

Anyway thanks for all the help

[grizzled seal]

Oh you already have a myth cloak

Yeah that's gonna be fuck all

Cloak is the lowest value slot along with bracers, no point worrying about those

[thorn plover]

Guys I just got back. I hear druid is dead in m+ and we're F--- tier now?

New to resto druid, archon says we bad, should I reroll? Ty

[frosty canyon]

lol

almost got me

[thorn plover]

🎣

[mystic crater]

That was terrible

[grizzled seal]

Ragebait used to be believable

[mystic crater]

You should feel bad for even trying that one

[frosty canyon]

Saw the name and had a second of cognitive dissonance

[thorn plover]

I mean it's the literal summary of the messages since I left

An hour ago

[azure jungle]

yeah sorry bud. Time to reroll mistweaver

[grizzled seal]

https://youtu.be/XbC5cp5VjU0

Only real mistweavers play with this

[spark river]

donby rerolled mw before it was cool

[azure jungle]

There's definitely more bears in queue.

[fervent mica]

cloak is a 5 hps upgrade from my haste/vers one with leech /-:

[dire hinge]

reroll 100%, since we're not in S tier I fear we're unviable in heroic dungeon finder

[solid hemlock]

https://klipy.com/gifs/rodada-perfeita--k01KS2WFBFH25CJ364GGRKGKFV2

mistweaver feels weird and i kill myself in melee range tbh

[rustic copper]

Equip the haste mastery one

[sick lintel]

Hi guys, I'm turning to the hive mind out of desperation here. My HPS in raids sucks this expansion and I cannot figure out why. I've watched videos. I've used WoW Analyzer. I've poured over my log replays over and over. There's a second druid in our mythic team and he consistently blows me out of the water despite us having the same ilvl and exact same talent build. I do 90th percentile healing in mythic+ keys. I'm very comfortable with that. It's just raids giving me trouble. I understand the principles perfectly. Rejuv in low damage time periods. Wild growth right before damage comes out. Then regrowth during damage windows. Keep lifebloom on myself or tank with plenty of HOTS to trigger everbloom. But for some reason this other Rdruid can outheal me by 30-40k HPS everytime. Here's a comparison log of our best attempt on vangaurd last night: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/Mc1qyWXQFPNmfa2x/self?fight=15%2C15&type=summary&source=4%2C1 Please help!

[fervent mica]

that would require me getting it 😄

we've never had one drop

[dire hinge]

I don't like how mw isn't pure something

either caster healer or punchhealer

[solid hemlock]

yeah I wish the two mw specs were differentiated in that fashion or something

[dire hinge]

but ur still supposed to weave some casts even as punchmedic

and for me it just feels awkward

make all my heal cd's a bigger punch

[kind star]

mostly like spot healing kinda tho

[dire hinge]

🗣️

yeah these days its a smaller part of the kit

[kind star]

usually just fisting/sck while using instant SG should be enough.

[dire hinge]

but its there

let me punch allies for spot healing

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/head-slap-duh-ouch-oops-guys-gif-17785281

[fervent path]

not that experienced but theres this

[spark river]

Your swiftmend cpm is very bad and so is your regrowth cpm and your overall cpm is also bad. Your lifebloom uptime could use a bit more work. M+ parses are a meme dont look at those. You dont quite understand the principles from what Im seeing in this log.

[frosty canyon]

just top level things I see, you're casting rejuv too much. Cast regrowth more, it should be 1:1 as far as casts in log. He's getting way more healing from his cleaves

[fervent path]

also this

do you run shared notes?

if so then they favour the other druid

if personal then get better notes idk

if no notes then get notes

[sick lintel]

Yeah Tranquility is assigned in NSRT so I'm discounting those

[fervent path]

aight but 2 less convokes?

why so late on your first wg?

wg before every Sacred Toll

[thorn plover]

I just got declined from a follower dungeon because we're not meta anymore

[spark river]

dank

[sick lintel]

Sacred toll doesn't come out til 22 seconds

[rustic copper]

Kicked out of the follower dungeon for running doc

[dire hinge]

honestly deserved

playing rdruid istg

have u no shame

[fervent path]

yes they were separated comments

why wg so late and wg before every sacred toll (you arent and the other druid isnt as well)

[thorn plover]

It was in the note and I told them I hate dorki and still got declined

[fervent path]

you are wg after sacred toll i think

[spark river]

Other druid is also bad, hes just less bad

[fervent path]

ye

[frosty canyon]

yeah

[sick lintel]

He's consistently top healer in our group every time 😂

[thorn plover]

😬

Sorry about your luck

[sick lintel]

I see your point though. I mean should I just be slapping swiftmend on CD even if it doesn't actually heal anyone

just to get soul

[fierce isle]

The healing from sm isn’t the point

[frosty canyon]

maintain rejuv stacks brotha

[whole horizon]

yes

[frosty canyon]

less gcd's spent on that means mroe healing

[rustic copper]

I’m not about to check the log on mobile

[spark river]

That tells more about the group rather his own gameplay

[rustic copper]

But check their sm and lb targeting if they just said that

100% of your swiftmend and lb casts should be on yourself

[sick lintel]

I usually keep lb on myself, especially in this fight because I'm an assigned target for the heal absorbs

[whole horizon]

LB is consistently only on them but they're both SMing other ppl

[fervent path]

healing is zero sum game, the less bad healer will be on top of the rest most of the time by a considerable margin

[rustic copper]

Gg

[spark river]

always regardless of fight

and every swiftmend on cd on yourself

[thorn plover]

And 2 rejuvs

Always

[spark river]

yep

[sick lintel]

Yes, I'm pretty good about maxing everbloom procs I think

[frosty canyon]

everbloom go brrrrr

[spark river]

you re at

2.8 cpm

on swiftmend

[whole horizon]

yeah u aint maxing shit

[frosty canyon]

not if you're not swiftmending yourself enough