resto

[thorn plover]

Soul

But ya

[tough portal]

Soul of the fittest

[thorn plover]

Lmao

Gonna confuse the kid

[bitter ember]

could some1 take a look at a few lura pulls (or just this one) and give me some pointers wat to improve on (biggest offender is probably swiftmend into regrowth cuz it feels nice to press but then i have 5 rejuvs and piss myself trying to get them back up)
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Rt2GCZp9PKqwA6dv?type=healing&source=54&fight=30
im lowk lost in p1 cuz my hpal is nuking first and 2nd set of adds, disc is clearing the matrixes getting kicked and i just exist there to do fuckall, sometimes im late to the explosions and barely get any regrowth cleave, sometimes i hit it decently and actually do healing but its nowhere close to good druids on that boss

[tough portal]

Just joking from bear talents

[dire hinge]

ah so u basically said swiftmend twice /s

[tough portal]

It has (had?) 2 talents with SOTF acronyms

Survival of the fittest and soul of the forest

Funny situation

[dire hinge]

but yeah I feel like my mends were okay

try to only rejuv after

[rustic copper]

is there a way to query casts with > 10 abundance on wcl or similar

I've been rly curious about that stat

and idk how to check it

[dire hinge]

also my eflo positioning was god awful apparently

darn

[grand herald]

efflo position should just be your positioning

in raid at least

[dire hinge]

yeah its what I mean

[hearty coral]

if we are talking about machine gun regrowths in TWW then yes

[dire hinge]

we do a lil bit of tunnelvision

[hearty coral]

but in midnight its more like 6+

[dire hinge]

I've read somewhere that at some point ur basically switching between them

rejuv regrowth rejuv regrowth kind of thing

is that a good way to go about it?

[grand herald]

no

[thorn plover]

No

[grand herald]

its more of a wave

goin up, then goin down, then goin up, then goin down

[thorn plover]

You don't have to hard cast rejuv all that much in a fight

Between the 2 on yourself perma extended, and sotf rejuvs, it keeps you hovering pretty healthy amount of stacks

[dire hinge]

do I rly mostly just rely on swiftmend buff?

[thorn plover]

Then you just ramp more as needed

[dire hinge]

and yeah + my own

and ig some spam before tranq?

[thorn plover]

If it makes sense

[spark river]

some is an understatement

[grand herald]

this is my abundance on alleria, but i admitedly cast too much RJ

big dip is intermission :^)

[dire hinge]

gg not healing

I joke plz dont kill me

[rustic copper]

31 holy moly

[bitter ember]

its with the intermission fake pad

[grand herald]

🙁

[bitter ember]

ur cpm gets turbo inflated by intermission being "downtime"

[rustic copper]

i see

[dire hinge]

hm gon keep it in mind then

less rejuv, more regrowth

[bitter ember]

rejuv is good when u need a global during movement or if ure prepping for damage

but if u can just plant regrowth usually does more

just need to keep in mind u want to have abundance before damage so u dont nuke ur mana when u actually need to heal

[dire hinge]

do we put any thought into wild growth?

or just send on cd

[bitter ember]

on cd will oom u

i just press it before big damage when it's healing wont get completely wasted

its probably good before cds if ur convoke didnt spawn any

[rustic copper]

I press wg as much as mana affords

so much more on shorter fights

[bitter ember]

yeah on shorter fights u can prolly send on cd

but lura/crown i feel like u want to line a cast with some spiky damage event

[viral pelican]

Did they demolish rdruid in M+ recently, why is everyone dropping it?

[bitter ember]

because monk was played in mdi

[viral pelican]

Is it because guardian is good now?

[bitter ember]

and rsham fixes a lot of issues (lack of lust if u run no aug) and it's raid buff is a 10% gain on ret

[real junco]

Melee comp

[pulsar umbra]

Bear meta and you don't need double motw

[dire hinge]

that and with the massive pulls they were doing monk heals better I think

err, scales better

[bitter ember]

ladder iwll just copy whatever is seen in "tournaments" like mdi or tgp

[haughty ibex]

meh is it that

[bitter ember]

i think there was every spec besides holy priesti n top100 ladder rn so its safe to assume at least druid shaman monk can heal similar level keys and hps is not the issue atm

[haughty ibex]

monk was going up before mdi even started no?

[viral pelican]

But rdruid is as strong as it was 2 weeks ago? Or did they actually change anything/

[spark river]

monk is played with bear and shaman is played in melee comp

[bitter ember]

nothing changed

[spark river]

Druid has to settle for keys with brew

[haughty ibex]

simply guardian broken so needs monk and phys comp needs shamy

brew is going down so rdruid too

[viral pelican]

So guardian was majorly buffed 2 weeks ago and the comp restrictions are the primary reason, like rdruid is getting crowded out but not bad?

[spark river]

Rdruid is timing 22 keys

[main timber]

Resto Druid is still very good

[haughty ibex]

rdruid is absolutely fine

[viral pelican]

What comp is best for rdruid still, should I snag brews always? And which dps?

Would we be luckier getting non melee comps like dev/aug and maybe uhdk?

[haughty ibex]

u can go guardian if u want but brew better jst for extra buff

[bitter ember]

until 20s i would not care about my dps being specific comp

just players with hands

[haughty ibex]

ye dps comp is w/e just pick what u like ig

[bitter ember]

the only thing i would cop is aug in some keys with bleeds like seat or magisters

makes the game play itself

[viral pelican]

ooh good point

[haughty ibex]

ye but that isn’t rly even worth till higher keys

in a 12 aug is playing with 4people

[fervent path]

LETS GOO

[bitter ember]

yeah for shit until 20s i would just look at score

and take people based on score

[fervent path]

instant character development

[haughty ibex]

ye exactly

[bitter ember]

i procced an INSANE prot warrior in my seat

life was so good

[haughty ibex]

bomba wp man

[bitter ember]

guy was immortal, had rally everywhere i needed it

[haughty ibex]

but do they even deal dmg after buffs

[fervent path]

played Vexamus down like a fiddle

[bitter ember]

idk if he did good dps, he didnt die, did good stops and his damage wasnt awful (somewhere in the 80s)

was enough to do my keyge

he was a brave person saying we should do my skyreach next (we had no aug and that man was about to tank 20 bleeds per second as a pwar)

major cojones on that one

[haughty ibex]

yeye was jst wondering cuz i played with 1 (one) warr and he was fine but legit his dps was so shit

[bitter ember]

idk ive seen protpals get mogged by doc coted so i think its just purely hands diff on tanks

also holy fucking shit doc is such a bait its crazy

[haughty ibex]

truthnuke

[bitter ember]

like yea give me 45k overall dps (40k of that is pad on piss that will die to ret's divine storm)

over 30k overall and 25k of that is single target or damage on the actual need to die mobs

[viral pelican]

Do mages make the game play itself like aug does? I swear this mage I just grouped with was the easiest to heal I could ignore them the whole dungeon probably

[bitter ember]

[haughty ibex]

😭

don’t think anyone has ever said ts

[bitter ember]

mages are the squishiest motherfuckers out there

[viral pelican]

For real? I guess I got lucky lol

I thought hunters were the squishiest

[haughty ibex]

but 90% of mages are 20iq just like 90% of augs

[bitter ember]

hunters r insanely tanky

rn

[haughty ibex]

esp survival

[bitter ember]

2 stacks of 30% dr, exhil and turtle

[viral pelican]

That's really interesting I guess it depends who you play with

[bitter ember]

and passive drs from pets

[glossy holly]

eh

depends how u look at it

[haughty ibex]

i mean mages also have crazy buttons

[glossy holly]

if hunter has to use them in less than 1.5min

they are out of fuel

[bitter ember]

mages have barrier and ice cold thats ab it

[haughty ibex]

i mean same as every other class other than dk basically

[haughty ibex]

2x icecold and alter

[bitter ember]

yea double ice cold

forgor alter

[haughty ibex]

and perma barrier basically

[bitter ember]

but alter wont save u from a 1bang

[haughty ibex]

like amount of buttons is similar

[bitter ember]

neither will exhil ig

[haughty ibex]

doesn’t exhil give dr anymore

did they remove that

[bitter ember]

no clue

i barely see hunters

idk barrier on mage is ass cuz shit does more when ure low but u want barrier to extend ur hp bar, not refill it

[haughty ibex]

they used to have dr gives mini exhil and exhil gives mini dr

but survival is super tanky anyways jst from their mastery so

[bitter ember]

yea surv is quite tanky, very rarely a lifebloom guy unless he gets hatecrimed by the videogame with like 3 different targeted dots

but thats true for any dps ig

[haughty ibex]

i mean on phsy comp where would u keep lb?

[bitter ember]

(besides the goldenchild dks)

[haughty ibex]

not that we will ever see one…

[bitter ember]

wht phys comp r we talking abt

cuz the one im used to plays feral brew rsham outlaw surv

and i barely do keys outside of friends homebrewed grps of triple of the same class in diferent roles

[haughty ibex]

idk warr hunter rogue type shit

i don’t get invited to that shit anyways i was jst curious randomly

[spark river]

ret also sometimes

[bitter ember]

out of all these i think i like warrior the most

[grizzled seal]

Nah that's an insane nerf

For us this nerf would've reduced the number of pulls by 25-35%

Just the glaives nerf alone

[bitter ember]

its a MASSIVE indecisive buff

(p1 factory shut down)

[rustic copper]

p1 factory still open

[grizzled seal]

Between 1 min and 3 mins you had 10 glaives

Now you will have 5

It's way more than 50% easier

[bitter ember]

they nerfed intermission damage

so like ill just do fuckall there

my p1 is already bad

[grizzled seal]

Yeah that's whatever

[bitter ember]

its bad for the general vibes

[grizzled seal]

That's good for comps without a resto druid but comps with one won't give a fuck about this nerf

[bitter ember]

wait i thought starsplinters would do more in intermish

[grizzled seal]

Yeah it doesn't do much lol

It's all absorb

[bitter ember]

yuh

idk i feel like im playing so shit on this boss and only look okay cuz of intermish

[grizzled seal]

Anyway this is a massive nerf

[bitter ember]

but also we hardcore griefed our prog here

[grizzled seal]

Every guild we checked had 60-65% of their wipes in p1

You easily reduce the total number of pulls by a quarter or even a third from this

[bitter ember]

we have 80

🙂

last time i checked

and it was after we procced a 60-40 p1 to p2

[grizzled seal]

You haven't killed yet

Or did you

[spark river]

a lot of pain behind that smile

[bitter ember]

no we had a first good p2 tonight

after 270 pulls

[grizzled seal]

Yeah so that obviously gets better over time

[bitter ember]

it took us 270 pullsto figure out positioniong and we just 1shot the p2

[grizzled seal]

This is good for you

[bitter ember]

when we did good movement once

ya

im still sad we griefed crown and lura

[half star]

Thought I was in RLE for a second and felt lost

[thorn whale]

Alrighty so imma help some friends try to get the hof tomorrow

Any tips i should know on Druid

Self LB or crystal carrier LB?
Move LB to crystal?

[half star]

Self lifebloom, depends on comp I suppose but better to overkill crystals and make sure to heal them before glaives shoot.

Get a spatial in intermission so your tranq reaches everyone

[waxen ingot]

did they do something to glaves

on lura

[thorn whale]

Removed 50% of them

[waxen ingot]

ISTG it wasnt like this before

[half star]

Symbiotic mage if they’re holding crystal

[waxen ingot]

nah

every memory game has

[thorn whale]

The Druid that I’m standing in for didn’t get spatial. I told em I’m getting spatial 😂

[waxen ingot]

32-095823095 glaves

and like 2 weeks ago

it was chill

[half star]

Glaives are just RNG, sometimes is hell, is not a bug. Make sure tanks are trying to aim at pillar correctly else prayge

[waxen ingot]

did my tanks change the way they tank

Idk it used to be so chill

[half star]

Poor Druid lol - it does make a world of difference tbh and rdruid carries intermission hard

[waxen ingot]

and tonight whole night it was

aids

[thorn whale]

Yeah I know from our own raids cause our Druid had it

[half star]

Likely just cope, they can be really brutal and sometimes you just get unlucky. Nothing changed tho, people ask that a lot lol

[wary belfry]

Probably had one bad rng pull and then was tilted the rest of the night

[thorn whale]

did you play MS or Liveliness on this fight

I’m thinking MS since I’m playing Druid for the first time on the fight

I expect myself to over rejuv

[half star]

Yeah I would MS

You can’t ask for spatial and innervates 🙂

[thorn whale]

True

[viral berry]

Anyone have a good heart of the wild macro to go into cat and cast rip for mana? Can I do it as a cast sequence or a macro in one button?

[silk ice]

I heard voulk’s stealing innervates

[half star]

He’s giving me spatial he can have whatever he wants 😂

[silk ice]

Fair trade

[onyx trail]

relationship goals

[half star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1430362643440341116/1430366441349058591/Wow_nBbcU1wACg.gif

[onyx trail]

[half star]

Voulk's dracthyr form is my "hear me out"

[onyx trail]

so peak

[tough portal]

Is that yia?

My goat

[silk ice]

Curse my internet, that isn’t loading

[half star]

Yeah, up to no good ofc ofc

[tough portal]

Plotting the next tomfoolery

[half star]

Sometimes my gifs don't load on mobile idk if me or you

But I have noticed that lately lol

[silk ice]

I am on mobile

[half star]

Ya, like even for me that gif won't load on my mobile, but will load on my desktop

You can enjoy it later

[silk ice]

[marsh prism]

regenerative heartwood talent

[onyx trail]

[silk ice]

[wary belfry]

Sometimes clicking into it fixes it for me

But yea very annoying

Or videos won't play if you click play

[half star]

Yea it’s been like this for over a month for me, glad it’s not just me I guess 🤪

[floral helm]

Anyone got some tips to heal the bridge pull before last boss in nexus point (16+). I get overwhelmed with all the magic dots/bleeds from the swarm while waiting for tank to gather

[proven phoenix]

dispel people that you dont have healing prepped for, keep lb on one target and never dispel that target, rotate bark, swiftmend, ns as necessary on other targets

you dont need to heal yourself much either

just divide healing properly, you need to know who you need to put more globals into and who you can not use cds for

[fervent mica]

can use ursol/typhoon to control the swarms too

[floral helm]

Thank you! Appreciate it

Can you pre hot to an extent without pulling aggro while tank is grouping

[hearty coral]

what do i do on paladins if im not getting a debuff

just troll one of the healers?

they said holy is better at self healing so they are getting the debuff

so we got 2 druids not getting the debuff

[silk ice]

i did enjoy it!

[lyric surge]

Takes two presses:
/cast [noform:2] Cat Form; Heart of the Wild

Oh you wanted rip as well.. that I don't know about

[viral berry]

I've heard you need to wait a second and then cast rip is that true?

[thorn plover]

yeah you need to wait til you have 5cp

[timid hound]

Hello i’m new here on community

[glossy holly]

hi

[marsh prism]

[marsh prism]

@radiant narwhal you oting?

[proven phoenix]

hi myth

[radiant narwhal]

HELL no

[radiant narwhal]

@marsh prism yeah ban this guy

[marsh prism]

i would

[fervent path]

on higher key WS whats the prio on dispell, Poison>Magic?

[fervent mica]

some dps can do poison, so if you have one that can you're def on magic

then it comes down to which does more dam

[mystic pasture]

off the top of my head, the magic is more damage

lasts longer too

[sinful jackal]

what armour set is that the dancing person in the back has

[half star]

Wrath Season 8 pvp mage set

[glossy holly]

im little confused about nexus left wing boss, after that big circle detonation, comes the heal absorbs

which one u would want to get defensive cooldowns on?

[radiant narwhal]

I think scuffed and Bishes OT and that’s it

And tbh neither of them should

[tough portal]

Wdym which one? That is one mechanic

[glossy holly]

yea im aware

but there was a discussion that for some reason u reserve cd's for the absorb itself

[proven phoenix]

heal absorbs

just personal the knock and it will subsist for most of the absorbs anyway

you never need to personal the reflux charge or w/e

[tough portal]

The mechanic is the absorb

The knock doesnt do damage

Am I crazy?

[thorn plover]

no youre right

[tough portal]

The circle detonation doesn't do damage if you're out of the circle

[proven phoenix]

yes

I assume theyjust meant personal as soon as the thing lands

[wary belfry]

You're f2f, im crazy

[proven phoenix]

explode

[wary belfry]

Ok im exploding

[fervent mica]

just don't stand in it 4Head

[wicked veldt]

is Myth still a 2 day guild

[proven phoenix]

no im sorry I didnt mean that

[glossy holly]

so i've been healing ppl taking damage from beams they are knocked into

[fervent mica]

the absorb does some damage... just get it gone asap

[thorn plover]

lmao

[proven phoenix]

yes probably

you can tell when someone eats a beam because it leavs behind a debuff

its a slow or smth

[fervent mica]

and getting knocked into puddles, yeah

[glossy holly]

what a way to make that mechanic flashy as hell and it itself doesnt even do dmg outside of circle

i've been fooled

[fervent mica]

bamboozled even

[glossy holly]

[radiant narwhal]

2 day M prog yeah

Thursdays first 3 weeks H

[wicked veldt]

chill as

[radiant narwhal]

Very pog guild

[marsh prism]

i need a scuffed healer to stream

[hearty coral]

im exhausted

i was trying to explain how druid talents work with the self healing increases

[cunning parcel]

The guild or the adjective 😆

[marsh prism]

the guild

i need to know what is occurring

[cunning parcel]

Mmm I can try on Wednesday

[marsh prism]

promise me and ping me when you do i need the gossip

[thorn plover]

what about a scuffed healer from scuffed

[cunning parcel]

Das me

[marsh prism]

no comment

[cunning parcel]

6:1 rejuv ratio

[thorn whale]

I’m streaming tonight

I’m helping some friends who decided to OT, and their Druid healer couldn’t make it

(My previous guild)

[marsh prism]

u are not in scuffed fmourne

[tough portal]

You dont know that

[thorn whale]

But I might be a scuffed player?

[dire hinge]

istg all my alts getting gaze first roll, but not main, no sir

[dire hinge]

dw compared to me u aint, up until yesterday I didnt realize feather from spire was on use

[wise galleon]

So, ive been playing with litany in M+ and it felt mostly useless except when HoTW is up because I can insta get the whole shield, problem is im running a magic dmg talent tree

Would perhaps going catweaving make litany better

Or what would be the best spell to cast with litany? Surge hits hard but trying to get 5 casts is kinda hard

[spark river]

The best thing would be to not play litany

Cat hotw is the same with cat and balance talents so it doesnt really matter

Even with caster you still want to hotw in cat

[wise galleon]

Sure but getting increased phys damage and bite dmg

would yield me more shield

[hallow fractal]

isnt the shield static

[wise galleon]

im stupid looks like it is

[spark river]

I dont think it works that way lol

[wise galleon]

thought it was based on damage done with those 5 spells

[distant birch]

Nah, its dmg done by trinket proc

[formal fjord]

You can prehot before the tank pulls and drop.into stealth cat without pulling

[distant birch]

So it scales with dmg it deals but not dmg u deal

If u proc it with 1 dmg or 1 mil it doesnt matter

But any dmg amps or dmg taken increase that makes ur trinket do more dmg, will scale up the shield

[primal jungle]

Not with that attitude you can't

[haughty ibex]

😭 what

[wise galleon]

oki thanks

btw does anyone know which classes exactly can purge the maisara caverns shields? other then mage and dh I dont know who else can

[distant birch]

warlock shaman i believe

[proven phoenix]

mage as well

[bright swift]

Priest too

A lot of classes have a magic purge

[haughty ibex]

doesn’t hunter have one too

[bitter ember]

blood elf can do something very funny in there

[wise galleon]

zamn for all the litany haters the shield covers the entire health bar in the burst phase of the last boss of MC, wonder if I can time it at last second and actually get a duration that helps lol

[spark river]

Because it gets amplified on dmg amp phases

[wise galleon]

yeye I knwo

[fervent mica]

first time really playing it... but i think i'm just better at shaman than druid... kinda depressing

[kind star]

is it fun at least

[fervent mica]

after sending 4 upgrades... lol

i did a few keys this week...

[thorn plover]

Gm

[balmy pollen]

LADS how do you guys decide who to give your symbiotic relationship? I'm pushing into the higher keys and I feel like going to the squishy DPS is the best choice. But sometimes i see some people put it on a tank still

for reference 18-19 key range

[haughty ibex]

is not that big deal ngl, but i rather put on dps now

[zenith onyx]

Hi ! Im back on resto druid since S1 TWW when we played KOG, now its WS the best hero talent, but between KOG and WS their is a huge gap in numbers ?

[spark river]

yes

[thorn plover]

Pick a squishy and forget it. Tank is fine too. Basically doesn't matter.
I run with a bear, so he gives his to the rogue, I give mine to the aug

[zenith onyx]

ty !

[thorn plover]

We're extending into alleria today

Gonna high roll a ribbon first kill and quit the game

[thorn whale]

No plans for next two?

[fierce isle]

I almost guarantee I get the useless boots :p

[thorn whale]

I did on my first rekill

[fierce isle]

We will only kill crown once so only one shot at ribbon :p

[thorn plover]

Yeah we will do them too, I'm just losing interest already

[thorn whale]

L’ura is fun

[thorn plover]

I only really enjoy prog and it's been slow

Yeah Lura looks fun. I think alleria dies tonight.
What's pull count on bird for guilds these days

[tired gale]

100-150?

[distant birch]

Lura was the best boss this tier for sure

bird is kinda garbonzo tho

[fervent path]

is it me or is +17 WS harder to heal than +18 AA

250k hps on 1st pull still a dps dies

[unreal minnow]

what dps was it

[fervent path]

hmmm lemme check logs, i think for that one it was an aug, memory is hazy

we had a run with a WW and a Frost mage

that one was fun

[unreal minnow]

bleh

[fervent path]

WW FrostMage Aug and you have the trifecta of classes that just shit themselves and die

[dire hinge]

is there a way to place cat hotw on other form bars

[unreal minnow]

i mean if you wanna challenge urself 😄

[dire hinge]

feels like im taking forever manually changing to cat to do it

[fervent path]

it was a mage

(they still died)

[dire hinge]

taylorswipe

[fervent path]

im numb to the taylors

[dire hinge]

thats fair

[fervent path]

idk why I dont know but isnt HoTW off the gcd

you could macro it but have to be careful you press the macro outside of gcd ig

[dire hinge]

well yes but its still 2 presses

[kind star]

prolly can macro it but might need 2 presses

[fervent path]

smash it

ig

[solid hemlock]

I keep running into boomkin who forget they have defensives too

[dire hinge]

so no way to just press hotw to be forced into another form

[kind star]

average pug

[fervent path]

basically me

dude im even telling them

pop defensives when they get grouped

regardless of if targeted

just pop them

and they DONT

whyyy

[dire hinge]

I love playing my ww and actually pressing defs 🙏

[thorn plover]

It's a tough pull, my advice is don't dispel

[solid hemlock]

the people who can't do that for super obvious stuff like the roar in maisara trigger me

[fervent path]

yeah I stopped dispelling at ~3rd try

[thorn plover]

Just spam regrowth. Someone usually dies if I stop to dispel

[kind star]

everytime I play dps im basically popping defensives on CD to help the healer out smh

[dire hinge]

real

[thorn plover]

I self lifebloom and just pump there. Don't move LB, don't dispel, just straight heals

[fervent path]

Im used to popping defensives or dying cause I main mage and its puzzling how many mages ive played with that pop Ice Cold after taking 90% of their hp as damage

[unreal minnow]

if the dps were focusing one caster down it doesn't become a problem I think, but they're also usually fucking off targetting w/e they first tabbed to

[thorn plover]

Sometimes I'll LB my aug, but self works fine

[kind star]

I barely seen mages cast that blue buff thingy

[fervent path]

yeah im still debating myself on if moving LB at all outside bosses helps

the aoe heal on self lb is just too high

[thorn plover]

I don't move LB at all

Tank for a couple pulls that I know he needs it, otherwise it's on myself

[dire hinge]

the raid macros definitely starting to spoil me

[unreal minnow]

i think second boss skyreach stresses me out the most

[fervent path]

on WS theres a couple of packs where we get Poison + 2 magic dispells, on those packs I think we need to dispell poison LB one magic and focus heal the other or smth

else idk how you heal that in a 20

[kind star]

hmmm maybe that'd help me, ill have to try a run with LB mostly on myself.

[fervent path]

then again after 2 gcds ppl are already dead cause they dont pop defensives in a 17

~.~

[kind star]

started doing 13-14s and it feels kinda sweaty keeping ppl up or maybe I just suck hence why ive been playing monk

[dire hinge]

never done a 17, how big of a jump is it from 16

[unreal minnow]

helps to have a bear or ret that will dispell the poison for u

or pop a BoS preventatively

[dire hinge]

I dew it on my ww 🙏

[unreal minnow]

i never see WWs

[dire hinge]

imagine not running detox

[unreal minnow]

lol

[dire hinge]

fair

its one of my fav melees ngl

to play as I mean

[thorn plover]

2nd boss skyreach I find one of the easier ones

[fervent path]

it all feels sameish till 19 imo

[dire hinge]

but its prolly cuz brew is so popular

[kind star]

maybe I should play detox for some dungeons on monk

[dire hinge]

like why play ww when u can brew

[dire hinge]

honestly I never take it off

i cant remember what it was I took off for it, just that it was smth useless anyway

[fervent path]

we actually had a bear or 1 to 2 monks on every one of my tries

and they never did

[kind star]

idr what dungeons have nasty poison, ik MC got disease on that 1st boss. Not that I really ever dispelled it tho.

[fervent path]

i think ill need to let people know what their abilities do before key

cause yeah if we get poison + 2 magic dispells and tank dispells poison we are gucci

but alas

[dire hinge]

I keep seeing this and makes me feel good bout myself, ig im a rarity in lower keys 😭

where doing it prolly doesnt matter anyway

[fervent path]

yeah in my short experience healing so far, only Pallys reliably use their dispells

i think they are programmed to use their utility

[dire hinge]

also dks

seem to always be on point with the uhh

green bubble thing

at least so far in my experience

[fervent path]

DHs half the time dont know they can self dispell curses or sickness

[unreal minnow]

i feel like I fight dps to soak a beam when I know they have no defensives, or they don't defensive before the beam damage only after they are dying

I can have them fully hotted and spamming regrowths and end up having to convoke to catch up. I dunno tanks never soak the beam even after the two frontals go out I'll never understand why

it's porbably just behind the io wave pug life

[delicate totem]

For healing Lura seeds is it just recommended to dump regrowths into them or is there more setup I can be doing?

[unreal minnow]

a good ret will be tossing out clutch WoGs and LoH and pre-BoS tank in dicey situation or to prevent disease/poison application they just have so much utility it's insane

[thorn plover]

Yeah I get it as a pug. I don't ever pug anymore as a healer so I can see that boss being an issue

I soak a beam every time, my tank moves in. And my dragon flys back and forth through my DPS beam to negate that

[unreal minnow]

i'm coming to that realization that it has a ceiling either for my patience or for other's performance

[fervent path]

yeah I never run PoS without a pally they run that place

[unreal minnow]

yeah that's the life that i see in successful key VoDs lol, i'm still waiting

maybe a discussion before key would be good

[thorn plover]

I don't even pop a cd in that boss

[unreal minnow]

but I find pugs don't really like that, it's like throw key in lets go

[thorn plover]

I'll use a convoke after the big aoe just because I have nothing else to use it on

[fervent path]

get off meta classes

then they will spend as much time as needed to preplan

so it doesnt brick

[thorn plover]

If im pugging I do not invite meta classes. Fotm chasers suck

[dire hinge]

damn

[fervent path]

only meta class I like is DH cause they just dont need healing

[dire hinge]

feels bad as someone who played brew since df

[thorn plover]

I can see last season IO, I go by that if im skeptical

[dire hinge]

ngl hate it when what I play is meta

obv I dont want to be in the gutter balance wise

but yk

[fervent path]

i hate when what I play is too strong early in the season

usually when that happens I start preparing an alt

lmao

[dire hinge]

altho this week my druid got more keys done than my monk

its joever

might be changing mains next ssn

resto been hella fun

[thorn plover]

When we do class signups each season, I just wait till last and fill in the healing class that were missing

Idc if it's meta or not

[dire hinge]

i couldn't do that ngl

what if its priest

aint no way im playing priest

[thorn plover]

I played priest for half of last season

Because we didn't have one at all

[dire hinge]

not hate to priests

just not my class at all

[thorn plover]

Only healer I haven't played is dragon, I don't even have one at max level and never have

[rustic copper]

cast 2 rejuvs on 1, regrowth all 3 snd cast sm either on myself or the hotted crystal then NS regrowth it

[thorn plover]

I got one to level 30 to test add-on stuff

[rustic copper]

Life blooming the crystal is expensive

[dire hinge]

same I havent gotten into evokers too

[solid hemlock]

evoker is fun

[delicate totem]

Okay that makes sense, no WG in there

[solid hemlock]

you can do like echo VE for crystals on evoker

[rustic copper]

You can I just don’t wg a lot

[fervent path]

is there a NS RG macro? I tried making one but wont work

tried something like
/cast Nature's Swiftness
/cast [@mouseover, help, nodead] Regrowth

something like that cant check in game

[thorn whale]

Dk is goated

[fervent path]

idk why half the dks ive played with deal aug damage

which is crazy cause uh dk rotation is like

1 2 3 shit

[thorn plover]

That should work, I think mine is exactly that

[lyric surge]

if you're moving when you try to use the macro, you'll have to spam it

[fervent path]

ohhh maybe its that

[trail rose]

How do you get swiftmend on cooldown?

[lyric surge]

cast it on someone with rejuv, regrowth or wild growth on them

[trail rose]

Thank you 🙂

[noble kindle]

where can i find a good raid frame for resto druid?

a good profile i mean

[thorn plover]

There's some on the resto druid guide on wowhead

Danders or grid, I think both are there

There are tons of profiles on the danders discord too, if that's what you're using

[trail rose]

So before pre-pull is to cast rejuv/regrowth on tank or onself to get it on cooldown?

[fierce isle]

You don’t necessarily need to have swiftmend on cd pre pull. Just use it on cd during the encounter as best you can.

You get a lot of value from 3x rejuvs post swiftmend and your apex extra blooms triggering.

In raid try to keep lifebloom and rejuvs on yourself to extend them all with swiftmend.

[thorn plover]

Realms coming up or just going down

[trail rose]

Still down lol

[dapper minnow]

I guess rDruids are not #1 for mythic plus anymore? And its not even healers are equal but rDruid just does not fit the bear meta.

[main timber]

It's true that it's a more diverse meta now, but also I wouldn't use that chart for it specifically

[dapper minnow]

I don't take it as the be all and end all, just for monitoring trends.

[versed fiber]

meta schmeta

[dapper minnow]

but its good that more healers are viable now.

[fierce isle]

Harder to get into keys with all the bears around wanting rsham :p

[rustic coyote]

That's because more guardians are around. Double druid comp not that optimal

[dapper minnow]

yeah I realise that. 🙂

same thing for when boomkin was meta, but at least then rDruids were still the highest HPS . Just didn't fit the meta.

[torpid violet]

does it even matter <20 so long as you have a lu=s

[main timber]

Druid HPS is still very high and can heal every key

[dapper minnow]

I love rDruid, but our mythic+ tank friend wants to go guardian.

And its not the case where there is even a case for double druid, like when they were running double monk.

[distant birch]

You can run double druid it doesnt matter

monk buff in most groups is useless they dont play it because of that

[rustic coyote]

You can in premade, in pugs hardly you get invited

[dapper minnow]

yeah with Mistweaver I think there damage is really good, so worth doubling up.

[thorn whale]

Monk just has insane healing profile right now

[dapper minnow]

I can't stand playing mistweaver, will probably focus on my RShaman alt if my tank friend goes guardian.

[kind star]

I keep my druid for keys with friends/guild now and just pug on monk

[thorn whale]

That works too (rsham)

Mw is fun

[trail rose]

Is resto not really good now?

[kind star]

ngl its surprisingly fun and really different from what ive known(MoP mistweaver lol)

[thorn whale]

It’s fine - It can definitely do 21-22’s

Probably even 23’s as well

[kind star]

and planning all your cds for bosses are fun, just find it so tough on druid with bad pugs to keep on top of things.

[thorn whale]

The issue is more the perceived Meta and what you’re receiving invites for

[dapper minnow]

I was just looking for a way to justify double druid, and was picking people's brains. Although my gut instinct says you can't. lol

[kind star]

sucks ppl care THAT much about meta and youre not even doing big keys

[thorn whale]

Ofc you can

People were playing double monk as well

[undone oyster]

hi dudes i need help to imporve some stuff

[dapper minnow]

RDruid is not difficult, but I really like the thought you put into it compared to the other healers. That is fun for me.

[undone oyster]

do you got an ui who help for cd with sonor stuff ?

[kind star]

on trash true you dont think at all as mistweaver usually lol but on bosses I gotta plan when to use cooldowns

I might just not be sending convoke/tranq on cd enough well to counter some mechanics/trash

[thorn plover]

I play double druid

It's w/e

[dapper minnow]

I guess its fine unless you are aiming for title, I am only at the top 1% level.

or was all of war within, I am behind this season.

[thorn whale]

That should be fine yeah

[dapper minnow]

just if I pug, no one will take me 😆

[lament river]

We still play WS in raids right ? And convoke ?

[glossy holly]

yes

[lapis osprey]

What's going on today that requires such a long downtime?

[sudden rover]

wouldnt know, I'm EU

eu supremacy

[fervent path]

closing hof maybe

gotta be careful or else they introduce a bug that gives hof title to every guild

or smth

ok im watching a german guild prog Lura and as soon as they get to P3 they separate the raid in two voice chats

prob through a bot or smth but its funny how you can hear all the channel move sounds at the same time

[thorn plover]

No more crest cap

Time to craft every piece I don't have myth for

[grand herald]

time to craft 2 rings and a neck lol

[sudden rover]

WHAT

[grand herald]

NO MORE CREST CAP

[thorn plover]

THE CREST CAP, ITS NO MORE

[sudden rover]

HOLY SHIT

[thorn plover]

I don't wanna farm crests

[sudden rover]

BUT U WILL

[rustic copper]

You are capped on crests?

[grand herald]

Always have been

[rustic copper]

._.

If you upgraded every item from 276 to 289 and crafted in 3 slots, have you not gotten enough crests yet

I thought we were past the cap mattering

[grand herald]

i still have 5 hero items and crafted 3 myth items and im at cap

[thorn plover]

Ya I'm sitting on crests because I don't have anything to upgrade

[grizzled seal]

Only if you picked raid vaults

[thorn plover]

I'm like 287 ilvl, just a baby

[rustic copper]

Did you delete crests

[grand herald]

no haha

[rustic copper]

Like did you craft in a slot you already upgraded in

[rustic copper]

True I forgot about this

[grand herald]

yeah, i ended up replacing 4/6 boots with crafted

[rustic copper]

Did you upgrade 272 myth items

[grand herald]

probably a couple

[rustic copper]

I would recommend not doing that next season

[scenic pilot]

With 0 myth raid pieces but efficient crest spending otherwise, I'm only at 287

[grand herald]

to be fair ive been max upgraded almost every week

i havent gotten great loot :^)

[rustic copper]

Are you myth item capped or crest capped

[exotic zephyr]

idk if I go bifurcation band or tier head, the head rolled avoidance and i can craft a ring now that crests are uncapped.

[scenic pilot]

Crest capped - still need myth crests for 4 slots (neck, back, wrist, trinket 2)

Although I can do the Ascendent discount trick for trinket #2

Which makes sense - if you're spending 80 crests on every slot (2/6 -> 6/6 or crafted), you'd have 11 slots upgraded (880 crests) with last week's 900 crest cap. There's 15 total slots, so 4 items should be still heroic.

[idle lake]

https://x.com/wowhead/status/2056782013776937069?s=46

Wowhead💙 (@Wowhead)

With the Weekly Reset, the Crest Caps have been removed!

#Midnight #Warcraft

https://t.co/IAxMrJxfBR

X · May 19, 2026, 5:00 PM

[cobalt thorn]

What's the argument for Verdant Infusion over Prosperity? Seems like if you use it truly on cooldown, VI is strictly better, but it feels like being able to bank a SOTF charge for big moments would be more impactful.

[idle lake]

https://tenor.com/view/league-of-legends-ryze-gif-13222252

[thorn plover]

Save gcds = more time to press regrowth

It's largely personal preference. I don't think there's a clear winner

[cobalt thorn]

I find it feels bad only Swiftmending my LB target, when I could be spreading healing out more evenly. The LB player is about to receive infinite healing, but if I'm Swiftmending elsewhere it feels like a waste

[idle lake]

i dont like losing a hot so i play vi

[proven phoenix]

we did it chat

officially maxxed out except lura ring

[grand herald]

the SM itself isnt that much healing, and the VI effects are so beneficial

[high hawk]

getting a ton of 285 options but no 289s >.>

[grand herald]

not to mention putting a bloom on your LB target

for that big everbloom healing

[maiden jetty]

Hey guys as a heal abosrb person on pala, what's the best way to heal them. is it worth x2 rejuving all heal absorbers and smacking regrowth from that 10 abudance stack?

[main timber]

Yeah working on it. You can just add it as a 298 item or whatever manually

[grand herald]

you can pre hot all the soakers, yes

rejuv em, spread RGs among them, keep spamming

[maiden jetty]

alright thanks. wasnt sure if its overkill going full hot on all 5 then regrowth spamming or not.

[grand herald]

wg for mastery

its the most dire healing needed usually

so yeah its worth

[maiden jetty]

cheers

[thorn plover]

Swiftmend hits like a wet noodle

[thorn plover]

Double rejuv, regrowth each once, and pump regrowths into yourself.
Assuming you're one of the absorb people

[severe shoal]

guessing i take legs and cata cause i got hero ribbon + myth gaze but thoughts?

[thorn plover]

Seems like it

[maiden jetty]

yes i am, ok then it'll just me mostly self regrwoth to cash in all the heal amps

[thorn plover]

Yes

Swiftmend into NS regrowth deletes them too

[grand herald]

on the other hand, your abosrb tends to disappear quite quickly 😛

so its not too much self spam

[maiden jetty]

ye i think its just absorb + the toll going out catches some ppl off guard

[severe shoal]

yeah in my exp its gone before i can even spam myself

[thorn plover]

Super easy fight to heal these days

[grand herald]

idk how i parsed so bad the only kill i had

i wanna kill em again

[maiden jetty]

thanks y'all

[thorn plover]

We killed 3x, doubt we kill it again

[severe shoal]

our kill pull i just suddenly had the worst pull i had on it ever, was mad asf

[grand herald]

i killed it with pre nerf everbloom

and somehow only pulled 180k

[maiden jetty]

ye i have x2 kills as an aug

doing some side hussle resto reroll XD

[iron sail]

noob healer here, am i supposed to use mana pot or main stat pot in raids?

[thorn plover]

My prenerf kill was 204k and my post nerf was 209k I think

[thorn plover]

Recklessness

[grand herald]

neither 😛

[iron sail]

ah i forgot about that one

thanks

[fervent path]

aight got mythic coach

was running heroic one so we take those

[iron sail]

does it matter what my highest stat is?

[proven phoenix]

haste should be highest stat

[iron sail]

and do i pop it with convoke or tranq or just whenever

[severe shoal]

when ur ramping up

[exotic zephyr]

i cant decide between mythic bifurcation band and mythic tier head with avoidance

[severe shoal]

if ur not spending bonus rolls on anything take bifur, def easier to get the myth head

[proven phoenix]

you want to reck pot with tranq ideally

[hearty coral]

my vault was awful

[proven phoenix]

its your highest hps window

[spark river]

Thoughts on reck potting on regrowth burn

[trail crown]

Weird American people living in the future, my vault is only tomorrow morning

[scenic pilot]

This season especially M+ Vaults are quickly becoming weekly Tertiary/Socket/Bonus Roll generators. Which is probably better than being forced to gamble every week on your last Mythic Tier piece or whatever.

[thorn plover]

I got nexus point ring from vault, I guess I'm coining crown now

[rain elk]

Is there any addon existing to track pots/hs and racial?

[thorn plover]

Most cdm add-ons will track all that

[lyric surge]

ArcUI can

[thorn plover]

^ also what I'm using

[rain elk]

Hmm, thanks I’ll check it out

[thorn plover]

It's a bitch to set up the first time, don't do it 15 mins before raid 🤣

[rain elk]

I mean yeah, I wasn't ready for it to fuck up my existing setup XD

[thorn plover]

Yeah it's a full CDM replacement

[sudden rover]

is there a new bislist now that crafted items are to be replaced

I'm too lazy to look for myself all the offsets haste mastery items lmao

[thorn plover]

Bis list

[tired flame]

could somebody please explain what exactly triggers lifebloom to burst heal. There are so many green numbers appearing on my screen that it sn't very clear which one of those is from the burst and which ones is just normal

[glossy holly]

photo

talent

[thorn plover]

Consuming sotf, refreshing in pandemic, it expiring, photosynthesis

Many things make it bloom

[tired flame]

when you extend it with swiftmend does the pandemic window change?

[thorn plover]

No

It's always 30% of base duration

Under 4.5s for lifebloom

[tired flame]

then isn't the strategy of proccing lifebloom and spamming swiftmend on the lifebloom target at conflict?

[thorn plover]

No

The bloom from pandemic is a very small % of your total blooms

It's worth more to just save the gcds from refreshing it (and 2 rejuvs on your LB target)

Almost all your blooms would come from photo and sotf regardless

[rustic copper]

In raid 100% of your swiftmend casts should be on yourself

[tired flame]

all of that makes sense for the throughput, and helps explain the spell

[sudden rover]

u guys think losing the 2 embellishments will be ok now we can have full 289 items everywhere? or we gonna still keep atleast 2 crafted pieces

[stable verge]

I'll keep crafted

[thorn plover]

I'm pretty sure 2 embellish is still bis. It's also that you can't get the right stats in certain slots

[exotic zephyr]

If you get targeted with a mechanic and have to move out of the group, is it worth it to move your LB to someone else and then back to you once you’re back in the stack?

[sudden rover]

ye true

[thorn plover]

No

[exotic zephyr]

Ty

[formal fjord]

except for vault obv

[iron sail]

any advice on beloren mythic CD usage?

[violet parrot]

does every refresh keep lifebloom at 3 stacks as long as it doesn’t expire or get moved?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[spark river]

You use your cds as they are assigned

[livid cosmos]

hmm i have my trinkets already but switched my vault to guardian spec in hopes i might get a weapon (have 298 int staff already, but only Champion track agi weapon)... i got the 2H from Crawth but I also got myth track set gloves, of which I only have hero track. currently 285 avg in resto spec.. what to do...

[sudden rover]

play mw

[fervent mica]

this isn't where i parked my car...

[spark river]

Take the trinket

And move to the balance sub

[fervent mica]

lul

[livid cosmos]

i already do xD

[haughty ibex]

I mean weapon is bigger upgrade prob qe should tell u same thing, but id use rolls b4 picking anyways and see what u get

if u rolled nxp a bit high chance u get weapon from there

[sudden rover]

fotm player ⚠️ ⚠️ burn him at the stake!!

[livid cosmos]

tell that to my 283 arcane mage 😭

[fervent mica]

<_< leveled a shaman on the 10th... its already higher io than druid /-:

[stable verge]

Arca what

That shit's as rare as windwalker

E.g. it does not actually exist

[sudden rover]

I miss my fire mage

it's in the trash atm

[astral lance]

Hi 🌹
I saw we should play with this build atm in M+.. BUT wtf.. since then i have such a problem with my mana!
How u guys do it in HighKeys pls? 👀 Please help

[sudden rover]

take master shapeshifter and spam starfire

[stable verge]

Yeah never met one yet

[stable verge]

Throw sunfire out of the window

[astral lance]

Yea i played with it before.. but since we got the "nerf" i saw ppl just playing with this build now

[stable verge]

It's just one of many, doesn't really matter

[sudden rover]

master shapeshifter is the key for mana, whether u dps as cat or spamming wrath/starfire is irrelevant, just dps a bit.

u will have mana

[haughty ibex]

liveliness is nicer in super high keys ig but if h struggle w mana then ms is the solution

won’t change ur hps or chance of timing keys

[astral lance]

Thank u alot

[stable verge]

Eventualy you won't need it either way but yeah that's a good start

[sudden rover]

in super high keys resto druid is banned from joining

[haughty ibex]

true….

[sudden rover]

u can basically not go higher than 20/21

[stable verge]

Sad

And true

It's like 90% bear out there

[haughty ibex]

legit i couldn’t get invited to 19 day of nerf and I jst need 2 for resi:D

like how lowiq are people

[sudden rover]

ye i was getting declined from 18s; I rerolled mw

like a good fotm dog

[haughty ibex]

i rerolled too…

[sudden rover]

🤝

[stable verge]

So... Why wouldn't you

[sudden rover]

ye cant blame them, bear is doing way more damage than brew

I would take bear too

[glossy holly]

well this is certainly unique experience as mw healer lol

lets just do dps and keep some mist up

[main timber]

Language!

[stable verge]

Mw breezes through packs and does 90k dps during them as well so hey

[stable verge]

Ah ye mb

Beyblade it is

[haughty ibex]

no ik just weird how blizzard openly declares that bear are supposed to be better at doing dmg ?XD

[sudden rover]

yeah

at this point I'm just rerolling whatever the meta is and biding my time, patiently waiting for classic+

[stable verge]

Well that's quite the change of pace

[haughty ibex]

okay man say hi to ur grandkids too since ur at it

[spark river]

Lol

[thorn plover]

Nice pic

[spark river]

Have to warn people ahead of time

[sudden rover]

how dare you, I'm only 30

classic+ will be a blast I'm sure

[chrome storm]

need an opinion

[stable verge]

Cereal is not soup

[chrome storm]

vs

[stable verge]

Need another one ?

[chrome storm]

im asking for feed back

[thorn plover]

2h

[stable verge]

I'd take 2h

[glossy holly]

if u like bit more haste, go for dual wield

[stable verge]

Put embelishment on crappy pieces like wrist and belt and you gucci

[golden pulsar]

Log question:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/argent-dawn/illyniana?zone=47&spec=Restoration&class=Druid&metric=points_and_healing&boss=12874

These parses, are what they are right? Im not mistaking it?

or like, looking at some thing wrong or what ever.

[thorn plover]

Parses mean nothing in m+

A higher parse means your group sucked

[golden pulsar]

thats fine

[stable verge]

Or maybe back, idk these days

[golden pulsar]

still not the question tho, that are the parses?

thats where u see em.

[stable verge]

Sure yeah

[golden pulsar]

Or well, better: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/argent-dawn/illyniana?zone=47&spec=Restoration&class=Druid&metric=points_and_healing

My pit, magisters, and winderunner i had decent groups.

[thorn plover]

That's your key parse not your healing parse

Idk what your asking

[golden pulsar]

I was just in an argument with a person and he pulled up my logs for parses in m+ and i got confused as to why.

[stable verge]

'cause he dumb

[golden pulsar]

i told him if i have 118k hps in a pull and we die its not like i can do anything.

in 14

[stable verge]

Humm not true but he's still dumb

[thorn plover]

Well that's not completely correct , but that's not a parse thing

Someone looking at m+ parses isn't worth listening to

[golden pulsar]

We also died first pull when i peaked 176k, so i mean its just, weird.

[grand herald]

blaming other people is never good, even if its true

see what you can do better

[golden pulsar]

Well, it was just an argument because i asked him to slow down

because he was 9698467 miles in front of me

and when i got there i could not catch up to the damage already going out

[thorn plover]

Why were you behind

[golden pulsar]

mana

[thorn plover]

Did you tell him you needed mana

[stable verge]

Though he should check, do tell them

[golden pulsar]

many times, he just kept pulling tho.

[stable verge]

Oupsi eh

[golden pulsar]

i told him if he just let me dirnk for 10 seconds it would be cool. its 10 seconds, outside of the 11 deaths we ended up with.

idk, some times it just gets to me. Im still learning ofc but theres times i just dont know what i can do

[chrome storm]

gotta meld between pulls

[golden pulsar]

yeah

Some groups i cant meld in

brings me back in combat

but i feel for 14s i really should not kneed to know meld spots if the tank could just either drop combat or wait for a few seconds. Its not that many times during a dungeon its needed.

[thorn plover]

You just also shouldn't be oom

[stable verge]

Well he lost the argument the moment he mentionned log so no worries.
On the flip side you can now look at what you can do better !

[golden pulsar]

How do you even keep mana up when you have to spam in abundance to keep people alive tho?

[thorn plover]

Push regrowth more, quit spamming rejuv

[stable verge]

Hmm perhaps you refresh too much stuff you should not

[golden pulsar]

thats my highest heal by far

[thorn plover]

What is

[golden pulsar]

Regrowth

i cast at 8 and up

[thorn plover]

Idk how you're oom then

[iron sail]

I just killed mythic beloren as my first healing experience this expansion, quite a thrill haha

[stable verge]

Do you play master shapeshifter ?

[thorn plover]

8 is excessive

[golden pulsar]

8 abuncance is excessive?

[stable verge]

In mm+ yeah

[thorn plover]

Don't even look at abundance in m+

[spark river]

yep

thats why

[thorn plover]

Forget it exists

[golden pulsar]

but..

then you would go oom quicker?

[thorn plover]

No

Regrowth is cheap

Regrowth costs less than rejuv at 4 stacks

[stable verge]

And free regrowth procs

[thorn plover]

If you maintain 5+ rejuvs with sotf that's plenty

Then ramp more when you know you need it

But you don't want to maintain 8+ all the time, that's why you're oom

[golden pulsar]

ill try and keep it at like 6 then or smth

[thorn plover]

Forget it exists

Don't track it

[golden pulsar]

thats messing with my head so much, lol

[thorn plover]

Playing to a certain abundance stack in m+ is wrong

[golden pulsar]

ill try and make the change.

[iron sail]

You guys are talking keys, right?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[golden pulsar]

Yeah

[thorn plover]

None of this applies to raid

[iron sail]

Alright because I do way more rejuv in raid haha

[golden pulsar]

From everything ive read and watched you wanted to keep abundance high so you could spam regrowth

but ill try to make that change then

[stable verge]

Yeah it's different in m+

[golden pulsar]

oh i dont heal in raid

[thorn plover]

Like I said regrowth is cheaper than rejuv at only 4 stacks

[golden pulsar]

and 4 stacks is easy to get

so

[thorn plover]

So if you're maintaining 6 with sotf and 2 on your LB target, that costs you very little

[stable verge]

Honestly, particularly on 14 and stuff, keep hots on tank, soft rejuv, wild growth before damage and spam regrowth will get you through 90%+ of cases

[golden pulsar]

thats just 2 casts and a swiftmend.

Yeah im just having issues with seat 14

[stable verge]

It's a heavy healing key indeed

[thorn plover]

I might drink once in a 18

And that's only if there's a fuck up

[golden pulsar]

i still got a lot to learn thats for sure

[stable verge]

I play master shapeshifter 'cause I enjoy numbers but yeah mana is almost not a ressources in mm+

Aside from seat

[stable verge]

Either way, don't worry about parses, that's dumb

[modern spade]

Why is the starfall from convoke so much weaker than the one fom heart of the wild?

[thorn plover]

Because it's 1 tick

[modern spade]

So its bugged?

[thorn plover]

No

That's how it works

Same as when convoke casts tranq

It's 1 tick

[stable verge]

Full duration starfall vs a tick

[modern spade]

but i can clearly see the starfall area of effect persisting

[stable verge]

Convoke in KFC shape is so ass

[grizzled seal]

It's a visual effect

[modern spade]

but the convoke in feral doesnt tick once

[thorn plover]

What is ferals exceptional spell in convoke even

[golden pulsar]

Do you guys play with prosperity or verdant ?

[modern spade]

the combo point giga bleed

[stable verge]

Hofw

[stable verge]

vI

[modern spade]

feral's convoke exceptional actually slaps, but boomkin's exceptional is literally -1 spell

[golden pulsar]

Aint RestDookin dead?

[thorn plover]

No

[golden pulsar]

still in full swing?

[thorn plover]

It's still more damage than cat unfortunately

[modern spade]

it is a lot more damage in st and aoe...

[golden pulsar]

Master shapeshifter looks interesting

[stable verge]

Can be a temporary measure for mana issue, but you need to understand when you can cast

Do switch physical talent to magic ones if you go there

[golden pulsar]

Ive been getting into finding places to do damage as cat but.

[stable verge]

Yeah but Starfire is a long ass cast 😄

[modern spade]

it is faster to find places to do damage as a boomkin due to fluid form and being in ranged

[golden pulsar]

i still find it mostly that im occupied

[thorn plover]

You should not take fluid form or go boomkin form to DPS

[stable verge]

We don't play boomkin though

[thorn plover]

That's a DPS loss

[modern spade]

they do in mdi, so i do

[thorn plover]

Lmao

[grizzled seal]

[stable verge]

Outch

[grizzled seal]

Healing is art

[stable verge]

They play Doc in mdi

Do you ?

[modern spade]

What is doc?

[grizzled seal]

Little known fact you can spec 4% spell dmg outside of moonkin

[stable verge]

Dream of cenarius + call of elder druid

[grizzled seal]

Why are you arguing without even knowing talents

LMAO

[stable verge]

And they play kotg ofc

[modern spade]

yeah i do play it, it is fun, u dont need to heal much at all in low keys

[modern spade]

I dont know acronyms

[stable verge]

Sure don't but still it's the wrong reasonning

[grizzled seal]

Is druid still meta in keys

[thorn plover]

Bear is

[grizzled seal]

Oh thank god

[stable verge]

It's great but bear is turbo meta so. 2 druids is pointless

[golden pulsar]

Bear is very hurrdurr, i have no idea how to play it and did a 12 just laughing to the bank. ( before " nerfs " )

[grizzled seal]

This is why I hate it here post prog

[thorn plover]

Comparing to MDI this season is crazy work too

Speed run competition

[golden pulsar]

i dont like the speed run ones, becuase they are not allowed to use clipping.

Guess blizzard doest wanna show off " bad side " of dungeons.