resto

[fervent path]

btw anyone else is team raidframte to the side in here ? seen too many center raidframes lately its feeling lonely

[rain hinge]

is it worth using cores on heroic raid trinkets?

[marsh prism]

you should try to get this back piece it looks really good for sets like these (i dont use this any more now that im haranir)

lol @ the fucking sagging crotch line

[onyx trail]

PEAK

[exotic magnet]

you get them pretty fast - and if you don't have myth trinkets yet, I think? sending cores on hero trinkets saves you crests once you do

[rich compass]

Yes, at the moment you might have to grind a bit to get more but eventually the cores will outpace anything you want to upgrade assuming you're playing a moderate amount

No reason to be stingy

[tired gale]

i had it like that until midnight

but center feels better in raid

[gentle nova]

Gay

[marsh prism]

i need a few more renown levels to get the ultimate mog i want but i like mine now. but i def had to make a haranir specific one, the nelf stuff just doesnt work

[glossy onyx]

Centered raid frames are unhinged

[balmy spire]

Tell your guild to fail Memory game and tranq on that, pure hps gain

[midnight adder]

Hi everyone. Which addons do we use for party frames and hot tracking etc?

[dreamy tangle]

Personal preferences i guess.
I use elv ui with Aura indicators

[livid hearth]

whats the best way to gear? I reached 228 ilvl on new alt yesterday from 5 timewalking quest, 6 tutorial bg neck and champ gear from renown.

Thinking i should spam +2s till full champion gear then spam +6s till full hero gear then get into spamming +10s?

[vivid peak]

danders and grid2 are popular

[grand herald]

You can start doing 10's way before full champ or hero

I think the void strikes give gear?

[livid hearth]

i asked someone how good is new assaults for gearing and people told me trash? So i kinda ignored it

too much grind for singular hero, i asked for chmpion? And they just said farm 2s instead

[fervent mica]

do delves/prey

[ancient spruce]

Does NS into consoke still work heard someone say it didn’t anymore?

[plain steeple]

They fixed the interaction. Does not work anymore.

[solid hemlock]

yeah the 500 currency for void strikes to get 1 totally random piece gear is a bit nuts. Should have been a warbound currency

[teal bluff]

Hey all, whats the reason for keeping LB on ourself in raid. Why not the tank or a dps instead?

[dreamy tangle]

You can decide where to be for efflorence to hit as many people as possible.

[vivid peak]

you scale everbloom with selfhealing bonuses

[teal bluff]

The 6 ppl cleave too?

[livid hearth]

as a healer even normal prey took way longer than my mage to do and because t8 bountiful delve gives same ilvl as +2 keys im thinking wouldnt healing 4 other dps tank in +2 be faster than doing +8 bountifuls as a healer?

[vivid peak]

pretty sure yes

[fervent mica]

You aren't required to stay resto 24/7

Keys are not guaranteed loot. 2/5 people get something. For 30 minutes of play.

[teal bluff]

Yea wasnt sure of that

[solid hemlock]

https://klipy.com/gifs/greys-anatomy-grizzly-bear--k01KRNBT24BVA9F47FJGZFJ7AGT

[proven phoenix]

dont do world content as healer

its just so tedious

[livid hearth]

im new to resto and took ages to finally fix my edit mode, cooldown manager and learning rotation while lvling to 90

cba learning another spec from ground up

I think ill just spam +2s into +6s into +10s then. If i could other specs your suggestions sound valid

[haughty ibex]

that’s just silly ngl, u can do 10s with 210ilvl

push up ur own key and make sure ur main io shows and ggs

[solid hemlock]

lucky that guardian has like 3 buttons (joking a bit :p )

[haughty ibex]

plenty of geared people rn are looking to do 10/12s for new currency

[civic barn]

Quick question i know that ppl used to combo convoke and nature swiftness before is that fixed now / not working ?

[livid hearth]

ok ill try ty

[small wolf]

Hey guys! Still a relatively new healer to mythic raids.

Is there a reason my resto druid seems to perform a bit more poorly in vorasius? Is it something to do with the nature of the fight?

The competitive side in me is wondering why I top heals in other raids but in various I tend to lah behind haha

Or is it just me haha

[snow dome]

Impossible to say for sure without logs, but likely a combination of not having optimal cd timings and maybe not being as confident with the fight mechanics and having to focus on those more than healing compared to other fights?

[small wolf]

Gotcha! That's very likely the case haha, but was wondering if there was sthg about the profile damage too heh

I.e should I be switching up my usual healing style from other raids haha! But likely it's mostly a knowledge gap gaha

Actually it could probably be because I put my life bloom on the tank when the adds spawn and everyone runs to the back

[solid cape]

Heyho, is there a way to disable the floating healing numbers? I found online that there should be the option to disable it via /console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing 0
But that did not work for me

[vivid peak]

you're not casting regrowth enough also wasting casts on wrath is bad

[marsh prism]

lol they changed the cvar name to V2 or some shit let me find it sec

ya its literally that cvar but _v2 at the end

[small wolf]

Oh wait did you manage to find my logs haha? Didn't know that was possible!

Gotcha on regrwoth, I ramp into windows wrongly and end up not being able to plant and spam regroeth... But one question isn't wrath the primary way we regain mana in raids?

[vivid peak]

its good to spread rgs for nature's bounty anyways

[grizzled seal]

/run SetCVar('floatingCombatTextCombatDamage_v2', 0)
/run SetCVar('floatingCombatTextCombatHealing_v2', 0)

0 disables

1 enables

The first one is obviously for dmg and the second one is for healing

@solid cape

[solid cape]

Amazing! Thank you for the quick help! Will try right away^^

[marsh prism]

i donut exist

[grizzled seal]

Console part doesn't work anymore I'm pretty sure

[marsh prism]

oh ok true maybe

idk i just use aio

[solid cape]

Works perfectly, thank you for the quick help!

[haughty ibex]

symb relationship doesnt count for photo right?

nor for masteyr stavck

[fallen scarab]

Talents

[marsh prism]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/spells/#mastery-harmony

[grizzled seal]

It does count for photo

[thorn plover]

Gm

[kind star]

Mornin', hottracker was a godsend in raid yday 😄 sad tho only got lu'ra to 17%

[marsh prism]

you got it next time

[kind star]

im sure we wouldve got it too if we cut some people, at least we pump on lu'ra or my healers arent great idk

like we cant 'cheese' beloren our fights like 4m on heroic x)

[mellow mauve]

Morning all, this is my first season playing resto. I dont do much DPS TBH as healing 14+ keys is hectic in itself. I was wondering what should be prio for voidcore upgrades with this playstyle, is it still weapon if healing focussed? Or should I do trinkets first?

[kind star]

weapon always

and theres no limit on voidcore shards so you will do trinkets soon after if you keep farming shards.

[mellow mauve]

great thank you

[distant isle]

Hey guys how do you track if you have call of the elder druid or not?

[thorn plover]

It's trackable in the cdm

No one is really playing that build anymore tho since the bug fix

[kind star]

also shows as debuff once you procced it.

[spark river]

just answer the question

[thorn plover]

I did

🫪

[marsh prism]

just to be clear they're not capped

ah thormy said that

good one thormy

[kind star]

😄

[spark river]

Thormy has evolved like a pokemon

[kind star]

I hit level 18 and decided to evolve after our prog last night

[thorn plover]

What's a pokeman

[spark river]

you should know that

you re old

[kind star]

im not even here for resto druid tips, im here for the banter between you two 😛

[thorn plover]

I had a lot of pokemon cards as a kid but didn't have a binder to put them in, so I laid them all on a sheet of white paper and used clear box tape to secure them all to the paper. Needless to say they are not PSA 10s anymore

I didn't catch the hype this time around tho

My kids have lots but they aren't interested either

Should probably sell em

[spark river]

I was never into card collecting

Just played the games on gameboy

[fervent path]

Oh yeah! I think I have it actually, ill try it out

[solid hemlock]

when i was a kid we made our own pokemon out of twigs and straw

[plain steeple]

I remember that I had a full collection with a golden charizard and some other rather rare stuff.
When I was ~25 my mother gifted all the cards away, because the son of a friend of hers wanted to play with Pokémon cards. She thought I wouldn’t care, never asked me. 🤷‍♂️

[tough portal]

Dumb and dumber

Love pokemon

[glacial sky]

Hey, is the Weapon Embellishment worth me using Crafted Weapon when I have a 2 hand Staff Haste/Mastry from Nexus dungeon ? 🤔

so it's like 3-4 ilvl difference on a 2 hand weapon worth dropping for Weapon Embellishment ?

I have both of them, but not sure which to upgrade using the Ascendant shit.

[thorn plover]

🥴

[indigo badge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3vBC12x76NwFVjXA?fight=3&type=healing&source=15

[kind star]

gonna try and pug my first chim m this weekend D: maybe some heroic for some shards too

[indigo badge]

what am i doing wrong? any help would be appreciated.

[spark river]

can you be nice to me for once

[thorn plover]

Read this.https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

You're doing all of those things

[spark river]

Yeah read that and then ask questions if you dont understand

So I dont write up another block of text lol

Alright but why are you playing this build lol

[kind star]

oh just saw looking at logs some of our raiders dont have enchants and some of em didnt even upgrade weapons or trinkets

93% uptime on LB not quite there 🙁

[spark river]

Go look at the build

this is some

nightmare fuel

[thorn plover]

I opened it and saw the regrowth and lifebloom and closed it

This is a job for a guide

[swift ermine]

Is that staff from Nexus mythic? If it isn't. I would craft the weapon. And the embellishment for weapons isn't the BIS, I Belive the arcanoweave on bracers/cloak/belt would be best

[spark river]

kotg apex with no photo or abundance

[glacial sky]

yes its from bonus rolling on Nexus Mythic +

[thorn plover]

Bro owns a time machine

[spark river]

what time machine plays no abundance lol

[thorn plover]

Wait no abundance

Wtf

[kind star]

yikes D:

[thorn plover]

Additionally go to the wowhead resto druid guide and get the proper talent build.

[spark river]

alright

but he killed

myth averzian

with 58k hps

Not just the talent build

Read the whole guide carefully

[kind star]

is there a website to input log to check all missing enchant/consume/pot usage etc. without checking everyone one by one?

I wanna out my raiders

[glacial sky]

hmm I killed heroic dragons yesterday and i got 86 parse, but it is not set on my warcraftlog ? 🤔
the other boss fights are.
Weird.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/X7aCgNBmrtA1kVPd?fight=21&type=healing

[grizzled seal]

They lock in parses at some point during the day

Usually around now +-2 hours

[glacial sky]

ye ye

i am just brain farting 😄

I am looking at Dragons on log,
but i am looking at Vorasius on warcraft log page and thinking why It's not updated 🤣
nvm 🤣

hard to improve parse when everyone in the group is 280+ and 4 healer 2 4 14 😅

[spark river]

Not really

You played poorly

[glacial sky]

First 1-2 boss i think i lag and DC too anyway lol
or maybe it was only first boss.
not sure if i switched the net before or after 2nd boss.

[spark river]

Your parse is basically just pressing rejuv for the whole duration of the fight

Thats not what I meant

Your overall gameplay has plenty mistakes

[glacial sky]

yeah i kinda braindead play since its a group with high ilvl and reclear xD
like there isn't a lot of motivation to play great to keep ppl alive when even if i AFK the whole fight nobody die from lack of heal 🤣

but what mistake i am doing tho ? it's good to improve anyway for if i ever go mythic on these fights

[swift ermine]

Stick with the nexus weapon and craft bracers or cloak or belt with arcanoweave

[spark river]

Lifebloom uptime. You didnt renew lifebloom in pandemic 16/18 times. Swiftmend cpm at 2.6 and half of your swiftmends have not extended a lifebloom and 2x rejuvs.

No wild growths before first 2 convokes. Not big enough ramps for tranq.

Not regrowthing like at all. Your regrowth to rejuv ratio should be around 1:1.

You re mana potting instead of combat potting.

So even with 4 healers you left out a 95+ parse on the table

[glacial sky]

I have both of them already and been using Crafted weapon since Week 2 when i made it.

but yeah I think Nexus Weapon is good to upgrade then if Weapon Embellishment is not BiS. Thanks 🙏

[fervent path]

Anyone else cant help but read kotg as "knights of the -" in their minds or is it just me

[south dove]

Heya I’ve never heard of wild growth being a requirement before convoke , should I always do that ?

[fervent path]

im a resto neophyte but it gives mastery and procs a lot of shit

[spark river]

Yes you should

[fervent path]

i always try to SM and WG before a cd

Like WG>SM>Rejuv and then convoke or tranq

[grizzled seal]

It depends what you are convoking for

[south dove]

Makes sense ! Tyvm I think in my heart I always feel it’s the right thing to do when I’m restoing hahahaha so good to know xx

[fervent path]

You could convoke to hot up right

For a big Tranq

i think we do that in Chima (?)

But idk if the cast time of consume allows for something like convoke>wg>sm>rejuv>Tranq

[glacial sky]

Thanks, yeah 100% agree with the Lifebloom update and the pandemic i don't even keep track of it so yeah 😅
Also yeah, I did not really bother keeping track of extending the HoTs, (mainly coz it's just heroic reclear but yeah)

The Ramps and tranq and such kinda not easy to do tho,
I mean the timing i had for when i progress the bosses and wiped on them
and the timing of these logs where we just 1-shot the boss and pretty faster than before is pretty different 😅
can't align the timings too well and we won't redo so i improve on them since they die in 1 try 🤣 so for these i should mostly improve on mythic progress.
for first few things tho, i 100% could have improved.

as for Rejuv spam, i probably still muscle memory go on rejuv spam when on easy fights coz of all the time we had to spam it all time in earlier expansions 🤣 🤣

[storm portal]

ok guys i have done 2 17, but i find difficult to heal on the chaos of the plus. someone can check what i can improve? ppl still die XD https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7PGnYmx16cXwWThF?fight=last

poor warlock

[distant birch]

can yoink timers from lorrgs

[spark river]

What you have said is just excuses. I ve checked your mythic logs and they are exactly the same.

So with this way of thinking, you simply wont improve

Because you are playing badly and not looking to improve

[kind star]

getting timers from lorrgs has been a godsend

I can actually focus more on core gameplay stuff

[spark river]

You literally didnt heal the guy

For 4s before dying the only heal he gets is a wild growth

[distant birch]

Kinda had it coming for not removing the debuff tbh

[spark river]

the mage death is even worse lol

You re not pressing regrowth on these people

[glacial sky]

first time i even heard of this 😅
will bookmark 🙏

[glacial sky]

I am indeed slacking this expansion a lot 🤣
too much worry and brain power spend on simply staying connected and play without lag or DC to spend on improvement 🤣
since I live in iran and government cut 99% of the internet and you have to find secret vpns with shit quality to play 🤣

but yeah these are all excuses too 🤣

I will check that lorrgs thingy and as i said, i 100% agree with the lifebloom and the HoT extending tracking, I simply did not do them. I should try doing them now 🙏

I do however try to ramp up and improve after each wipe my timing on when to Tranq and convoke and such tho on mythic runs.

[trail crown]

Why are the Nexus boots bis, but they have Versatility and the crafted boots don't? Is it because crafted misses 1 upgrade level?

[glossy holly]

crafted is not put part of the bis list due to certain variables involved in gearing up process

and guidemaker did not want to fuck them over with recommendation

[thorn plover]

The boe boots from voidspire are actually "bis"

But out of reach or reason for most players

[glossy holly]

they are definitely pricey lol

especially during the start of raiding season

[trail crown]

Oh

How much are they

[rustic copper]

Catalyst boots are high haste low crit

Actual bis boots are haste mastery leech for like 2m

[trail crown]

2m wtf

[glossy holly]

[grizzled seal]

Leech with self lifebloom

Extremely valuable

[trail crown]

Can you explain that

[grizzled seal]

I was being sarcastic

Leech is a dogshit stat when your average health in raid is 99.8%

[trail crown]

Oh

M+ is my focus though

[grizzled seal]

Leech in m+ is also not great

First of all any healing done to yourself does not produce leech

So only healing on 4 players out of 5 will produce it

And damage obviously

[distant birch]

Not like you can put other stat that gives u hps on boe boots tbf

might aswell get leech then

maybe it does 20hps

[glossy holly]

yeah to urself

[grizzled seal]

Just get avoidance

Or speed

[distant birch]

avoidance is hps loss tho

if only they made it show up as healing...

[grizzled seal]

Not really

[thorn plover]

Tell me you're only playing for parse numbers without telling me

[glossy holly]

it doesnt need to be in form of hps to be less damage taken

[distant birch]

i could also just say it ngl

[grizzled seal]

Taking less dmg can let you live more mechanics and then do more hps by moving less

Ancient wisdom of not moving out of a puddle cuz you can

[distant birch]

ye im not saying its not good

im speaking from purely parse perspective

[fervent path]

my lifebloom uptime sucks ass, I made a meow sound alert for when its about to fall off/fell off and im so regarded that Im just sitting there like "wow that cat is so annoying"

[thorn plover]

If it fell off it's too late

[kind star]

sometimes my sound alert just bugs out kinda annoying

like if I get a DBM alert at same time of LB or NSRT note.

[fervent path]

ye but might as well also keep meowing if i let it fall off

[thorn plover]

Don't let it fall off

[glossy holly]

damn

[fervent path]

when I say my lb uptime sucks its cause its laughably bad

[grizzled seal]

When I'm working on something to improve, I join a pug and only focus on that one thing for a few pulls

It helps with muscle memory

[glossy holly]

doesnt like cat meowing

[fervent path]

dont be sad

[fervent path]

yeah im tring

also i spam keys

[kind star]

cats are satan hellspawn after all

[grizzled seal]

Like literally join a normal or a heroic raid and only focus on keeping lifebloom at 100%

[fervent path]

but yeah sometimes theres something that my brain just

[glossy holly]

cute ones tho

[fervent path]

wont take in

[glossy holly]

yeah

[grizzled seal]

I can do 99% on lifebloom even when I zone out completely and don't think about what I'm doing

[glossy holly]

i cant take in raid mechanic timers when im healing

[thorn plover]

Make a big text or icon popup or icon on your cursor to let you know to refresh it

[glossy holly]

my brain is faulty

[kind star]

Im legit scared of cats now because my roommate had a crazy fkg cat 😭

[fervent path]

since day 1 playing this class I realized "oh yeap I suck at keeping this buff up" and have focused on making it better

but my chud ass brain wont work

[glossy holly]

maybe u need very loud audio

[fervent path]

atm I got Frame Border alert, Aura CDM alert, Sound Alert

only missing text alert ig

[thorn plover]

Shameless self plug https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/lifebloomalert

[fervent path]

will try it out

[kind star]

having NSRT note/lb alert helped me focus better on LB uptime and SM on cd.

[fervent path]

I use NSRT notes already ye

[rustic copper]

If I wasn’t carrying a crystal I might be rank 1 glaive muncher

[glossy holly]

i wonder what was that shameless self plug wall of text though

u erased it so fast

[fervent path]

self reporting here but look at this shit man im so bad

lmao

[thorn plover]

Link didn't copy correct

[fervent path]

ig ill just keep playing till it clicks or smth

[thorn plover]

That's like the only thing you should focus on til you get it

[kind star]

is that lb uptime o.o

[fervent path]

i will also add text alert ye maybe the 4th alert is the charm

[fervent path]

YES

[thorn plover]

There are so many solutions to remind you

[fervent path]

im using like 80% of them already 😭

[thorn plover]

Make your entire screen red if that's what it takes

[fervent path]

im admiting im just daft

[fervent path]

oh

can I do that

[thorn plover]

Sure

[kind star]

ah damn I thought you had around 80% maybe

[fervent path]

yeah no

[glossy holly]

lol i kinda get it, i cant follow mechanic timers even if my life depended on it

[fervent path]

80% is "i kinda suck" territory

[glossy holly]

i guess i need that fancy rolling timer

[kind star]

im finally at around 95% on it, still work to be done!

[fervent path]

I can pay attention to Bigwigs timers while healing but thats cause I already do that when playing my dps main

cause most of the time im calling mechanics

[kind star]

just some slight gap sometimes like ill dodge glaives at start of lu'ra and let it drop for 1sec or so

[thorn plover]

With lifebloom alert you can make the sound repeat every second until your refresh it if you want

If you're still ignoring it then, idk

[kind star]

actually did that this week

[fervent path]

yeah the "wow this cat is so annoying" part

its cause my brain litteraly forgors

the meow means lb is down

[glossy holly]

get another audio

[thorn plover]

Something like a meow is so easily lost in other sounds tho

[kind star]

sounds like you need some other audio

[fervent path]

this is the 3rd audiop

[glossy holly]

such as spelling the spells name

[kind star]

I just use TTS

[fervent path]

first one was a BANG

second one was a Chime

[glossy holly]

LIFEBLOOM

[kind star]

yelling lifebloom in my ears super loud

[fervent path]

oh yeah i could tts a lifebloom one ig

[kind star]

so annoying im actually improving haha

[fervent path]

1 sec lemme check if danders has that

[thorn plover]

The add-on I linked does everything were talking about

Danders does as well

[kind star]

goated addon, I wonder who did that one.

[thorn plover]

🤔

[fervent mica]

steve. from accounting

[glossy holly]

little coder

[kind star]

oh right lil Steve.

[fervent path]

is steve the one that drinks all the water from the cooler?

[thorn plover]

My boss hates when I call him Dick for short.
Especially since his name is Steve

[fervent path]

[glossy holly]

[kind star]

I wanted to do heroic for shards tonight, forgot I signed up for a damn mop ToT 10m 😭 friday ruined

[fervent path]

idk how i managed a blue parse on chim M with that low lb uptime (knowing the other healers in my party are certified not braindead)

[thorn plover]

You can pretty much do anything with a weakaura

[glossy holly]

because oddly enough

[fervent path]

can weakauras read that info from combat?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[fervent path]

oh

[thorn plover]

Lifebloom isn't secret

[glossy holly]

there was actually BAD healers at chims

like i dont get it

so far i've seen 2 healers being lower than 70k hps

in a 9 minute fight

[fervent path]

oh like it being puggable makes it so there sa lot of very bad parsers

compared to say vaelgor

[glossy holly]

like 2 healers at same time in same raid

[fervent path]

jesus

yday I went to Averzian M and was pumping my shit crazystyle

170k hps

imagine if I actually used lifebloom

would be crazy

[glossy holly]

[fervent path]

ofc one of the other 3 healers was probably playing minecraft

on 2nd monitor

bro was at 70k hps

[distant birch]

I wish my co healers were doing 70k hps

[fervent path]

aw cant do custom tts it seems, will get purrs addon for that ig

(dropdown has no custom tts)

[spark river]

You guys should try turning the volume to 0 and just using tts

Thats some horror movie shit

[thorn plover]

I play with music absolutely blasting the entire time

This game is unbearable to listen to

[spark river]

like i turned off master volume for some reason

when that tts hit

diabolical

[thorn plover]

My raid leader is used to it, he has to message me in game if he wants me to hear something in discord lol

Of course if we're doing explanations or something I turn it down, but outside of that I don't hear shit

[spark river]

cant stand his own guild

confirmed

[fervent path]

aight if this doesnt work im ending it

[glossy holly]

anyone know if targeted spell addon works in midnight to tell u which party member is being targeted?

[hardy canopy]

it doesnt work in frames anymore

you can have a list of mobs casting and their targets tho, danders has this feature embedded or you can get the targeted spells addon

[glossy holly]

[steel plank]

How am I meant to handle the little fuckers after Crawth on AA?

The mage didn't die here, but that seems crazy. Can I see who they're gonna jump to?

[glossy holly]

afaik they jump to farthest target

meaning u can control who it targets

[steel plank]

Oh ok makes sense

Well ranged DPS are always shy and stand 3 packs back, so I guess I just shift LB to them for that and pray

[thorn plover]

Can't stand most people

[glossy holly]

if u are capable with mechanics, its surprisingly easy to be raider while ignoring most audio from others

im typically the one being targeted by that AA snake lol

mostly cuz its stupid little corner

avoiding the first pack of platform

[thorn plover]

Everyone should stack in the big guys hit box, and tank be farthest back

[native granite]

I dont know if this is just me but Ive had 2 instances now, 1st pull in skyreach, and the ice hallway in pit of saron, where i cannot target my party members and the game behaves like im LOS'd from them. Its incredibly frustrating because players obviously die and I dont know whats causing it

[fervent path]

ohhhhh

that makes so much sense ye

[thorn plover]

Controls the jumps and the breaths

[glossy holly]

i've never seen anyone doing that though in puggin scenario

[fervent path]

i didnt do that in an 18 when I was dps

[thorn plover]

I mostly get annoyed when people talk about dumb shit and it throws my game off so I just tune it out

[thorn plover]

Type in chat "stack in hit box"

Idk

Use your words

[fervent path]

stack close tank far

why use many words when few words do trick

[glossy holly]

be cave man

yes

[thorn plover]

Tank can't go far, has to be on edge of hitbox so the mobs don't move

[eternal bough]

[Root Network] VS [Resilient Flourishing] m+?

[thorn plover]

It's tight spacing

[fervent path]

tank far-er

nearn't

[glossy holly]

im not sure where u are usually having the packs at in skyreach

[fervent path]

stackedn't

[glossy holly]

ice passageway, there are some dumb ppl who goes very far in the back

and take all the slow shit running to u

there shouldnt be any issues with LOS stuff in pit except for that first boss boulders

such annoying blocker

[spark river]

I actually do play better when I space out so might be something there

[kind star]

those boulders so annoying and then somtimes you and a dps will juke each other trying to get in los lol

[glossy holly]

lol

[thorn plover]

Call it locked in , instead of spaced out 😏

[spark river]

Nah its spaced out

Straight up auto pilot

[fervent mica]

thats how i dodge things... tbf

just call it ultra instinct instead

[kind star]

maybe I should play sober for once, id probably be worse 😂

[thorn plover]

Nah can't do that

I tried raiding completely sober, no music, discord , paying attention.... I wanted to end it all

[kind star]

I dont think ive ever played without all that yeah

not like super shit-faced either ofc or then I would play super bad.

[haughty ibex]

ye the little beams in skyreach will give u los

so u gotta move quickly

[thorn plover]

I've tried this, doesn't work well

[kind star]

gonna need to get close to that to play mop tonight tho

[thorn plover]

People are still playing mop?

[kind star]

my guild just doing some 10m to get everyone their raden clear... we disbanded before killing raden because of tbc/retail.

But na dead game

[echo path]

Hi friends, I am having some underperformance in raid (HPS is capping at like 60k HPS), using wild stalker build. Here is a sample of my logs last night. Still learning how to play in raid but would love pointers and tips to better my output. Is is the way I’m playing or is it just a gear deficiency (champ weapon currently)

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/K4aGFcARNzkMrngP?boss=-2&difficulty=0&type=healing&source=7

[rustic coyote]

I took chimaerus as an example. Your cpm are really low, lb uptime too low, you are not spreading reju via sotf

[thorn plover]

You should start by reading this https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

You are doing all the things it mentions

[echo path]

Thank you so much! That is super helpful. I’ve watched quite a bit of YouTube vids but a lot focus on m+ and not raid.

So this guide is very helpful @thorn plover

[glossy holly]

in raids, u shouldnt be trying to dps

just focus on healing spells

[echo path]

Coming from preservation evoker main resto is a different ballgame

[glossy holly]

yeah druid is definitely bit special in this sense

[echo path]

Oh I shouldn’t be refreshing moonfire and spamming wrath when I can? Use the GCDs on rejuve spreading?

[rustic coyote]

What purrformance posted is kinda helpful for many of the common mistakes that are just written there 😁 😁

[glossy holly]

ur contribution as healer into dps is so minor that its just not worth it in raid

[rustic coyote]

Why should you? In raid your contribution as dps won't be enough. The only thing worthed is to Hotw rip every 2 mins

If you master shapeshift

[glossy holly]

for example at imperator, u did less than 500k dmg

but u used plenty of globals instead of healing globals

[silk ice]

I love at the end the thumbnail has a prevoker in it

[glossy holly]

m+ content is ofc little different but ultimately u will only dps if u have easy time in keeping party alive

[rustic coyote]

Most important you bloom urself, keep reju and germ, cast swiftmend on cd on yourself to extend duration and consume soft with reju to spread reju

Ofc you wanna spread reju smartely enough to always cover 3 people

[echo path]

Ok this is helpful to know

Yeah I’m glad I can just focus on spreading rejuves then spending gcds on dps that’s helpful

I think maintaining lifebloom was an issue I had throughout the night

[rustic coyote]

When you have 10-12 abundance stacks, you can start spamming regrowth. It's a continuous cycling of reju and regrowth. The more you know a fight, the better you can prepare your ramp

[echo path]

And I also didn’t realize swiftmend is a powerful heal, I thought it just extended my hots lol that’s on me though

[rustic coyote]

You use like that in raid

Just to extend

And spread reju

[echo path]

I know the damage profiles from clearing raid w pres it’s just so different with Druid

So ideally I have a rejuve on everyone?

[glossy holly]

well not everyone

[rustic coyote]

Unless you raid in 10 man, no

[glossy holly]

just spread until u got 10-12 abundance stacks and rg spam

[echo path]

Ok so it’s more for the abundance stacks that help cleave heals w regrowth

[glossy holly]

yeah abundance makes rg very cheap spender

[rustic coyote]

And always crit

[echo path]

Should I keep lifebloom up on the tank or spread it around depending on where group is stacking

[glossy holly]

in raid, its always on you

[echo path]

Oh ok woah

[glossy holly]

m+, depends who is weakest

[echo path]

Good to know

[glossy holly]

LB and double rejs on you in raid, spread rej's, spam rg

thats basically it

[echo path]

You make it seem so simple ha ha ha

[glossy holly]

WG is the biggest source for the mana going oom after u have proper heal rotation

[rustic coyote]

M+ is a different plsystile. In m+ you switch lifebloom depending on the situation, you often consume soft with regrowth. It's worthed watching some twitch to understand more how it works

[glossy holly]

so really, only cast it when u know an dmg event is coming

[blissful goblet]

I did first 4 mythic this Wednesday on void and basically did that

It got hard to cycle mid fight but basically keep your abundance up, Life bloom always on yourself

Sm to extend and spread rejuvenate

Then RG spam

I threw some WG in there too

I was able to keep up on HPS even if my parses were in the 35-55 range

But I was second on HPS and felt like I had a firm foundation

Our priest was parsing in the 80s/90s so I’ll never be able to touch that lol

[hearty tide]

hey all i have 6 tokens from the vault and i dont know which is better buying a bonus roll or a socket for my 289 helm (i have used all my crest and wouldnt be able to upgrade anything)

[glossy holly]

do u have lots of m track pieces then?

[echo path]

Great, thank you all for the pointers! Save Tranquility and Convoke for major damage spikes?

[blissful goblet]

I do yeah

[glossy holly]

if u got those pieces as haste mastery statted m tracks items, socket would indeed be better

[blissful goblet]

Like I save convoke for beams on saladhar

Or orbs

I tranq

I’m a newb still so take with grain of salt

[glossy holly]

i've been told to cast heal cd's on first dmg events so yeah

its pretty much like that

idk about saving cd if its going close to 1 minute delays though

[kind star]

imagine having lots of m track pieces smh couldnt be me 🙁

[rustic copper]

Yeah don’t do that

[kind star]

need to replace that neck badge

[rustic copper]

You cd orbs on that fight

[kind star]

might just craft a neck at this point since I dont have lots of myth pieces ig and still have like 500 ish crest to get

[spark river]

That should be fine yeah

I have a crafted neck

[kind star]

pvp neck is just hero track right?

[spark river]

Yes

[glossy holly]

yes

low haste amount tho

[kind star]

alright worth then, might try pugging some mythic bosses this weekend.

[glossy holly]

best neck comes from last boss though

good luck with your journey

[kind star]

yeah hence why its worth it for me to go all in on crafted neck ill rep that for a while

[rustic copper]

Heroic Lura neck

[kind star]

I want big boy haste 🙁

could also maybe pug that but sounds like a nightmare kinda

[glossy holly]

lura is definitely something that pugs will struggle with

mostly because of p1 marks

[rustic copper]

No

It’s p2

[glossy holly]

[rustic copper]

I’ve done a lot of Lura pugs

Hitting the orbs with the lines is actually the hardest heroic mechanic ever

[kind star]

anyways we will kill her next week surely, if i can snag some loot from the easier mythic bosses

[rustic copper]

With enough ppl in each soak

[kind star]

I know vorasius and chim are kinda easy to pug, what other boss?

[rustic copper]

You should aim for 1 boss voidspire or first 3

Vor has no loot and will dilute your vault

Most pugs do 1 or 3 bosses

4 is unrealistic

[spark river]

I can confirm this as I pug hc lura every week

[kind star]

4th is dragons is it?

[rustic copper]

Yes

[rustic copper]

I was in a group that said they were going to yolo p2

Just insta left

[crimson void]

Why is wowhead not chosing "spire of the Furious Construct" as bis when it has more haste than "final grade "and "corespark multitool"?

[kind star]

do pugs just use nsrt for rune order?

or prolly disc ig

[rustic copper]

Some do, most require discord

[spark river]

I killed it in 2/2/16 it was a comedy show i swear

[kind star]

hmmm tempted to try

[spark river]

I dont think people ask for discord anymore

[kind star]

I dont think we were even doing the 'crystal cheese' thing in my raid

[spark river]

It was a thing early on

[glossy holly]

the stat difference is so minor that ''who cares''

[rustic copper]

The runes are just easy

I’m ngl

[kind star]

I need someone to call em out or nsrt personally D: too new to resto druid ill fuck up something otherwise

or ill eat glaives 😄

[crimson void]

Alright. got the multitool in my bag in myth track so no point in chasing the spire i guess.

[glossy holly]

its excellent piece anyway

[rustic copper]

Because they’re basically equal and bis lists are stupid because if you put that weapon as bis thousands of ppl will bonus roll the wrong dungeon

Also nothing is bis unless it has tertiary + the context of the rest of your gear

[glossy holly]

bis with everything socketed

[crimson void]

I got crafted staff, but ill replace it with the multitool and then upgrade it

[echo path]

Crafted is best until i get a bis myth track right?

[kind star]

felt bad abit on those crest but oh well long term better

[rustic copper]

Yes but you should get bis myth track asap

[glossy holly]

for early investment craft weapon is indeed best until then

[rustic copper]

Like you should already have it

[echo path]

Yeah especially w the bonus rolls

[rustic copper]

Unless your char is brand new

[echo path]

Just started on my resto this week so haven’t done too much on it

Yeah

[kind star]

with all the bonus rolls we got, should have gotten one in npx.

[glossy holly]

i just spent 3 rolls

2 shit items

blame the luck

[kind star]

I was dumb early on and used my rolls randomly like a monkey

[echo path]

Well I wonder if it’s better to just blast a few tens and roll then even craft the staff

[rustic copper]

My main has gotten Lura helm twice from raid -4

[kind star]

but I rolled staff this week out of 3 rolls at least.

[fervent mica]

yeah

spam some npx

[rustic copper]

If you are capable of doing 10’s without the crafted weapon then there’s no reason to craft

[fervent mica]

if you're capable of 10s, i wouldn't craft staff at this point

you can get enough rolls to force it

[kind star]

I would have more myth pieces if I didnt randomly roll at random dungeons xd my own fault

[echo path]

Good I’m glad I have all 8 rolls still so I’m sure luck is on my side yeah I can get thru a 10 ez pz at 260 ilvl

[glossy holly]

its been relatively quiet npx key grps today

a lot of ppl must be drinking outside

smh

[blissful goblet]

Oh no why

[rustic copper]

Because that means you’re sitting on convoke forever

Heal the orbs

[blissful goblet]

Oh true

[spark river]

you cant sit on convoke if you play a 2 min convoke

5head

[rustic copper]

[kind star]

On what fight do ppl play 2min voke?

[glossy holly]

salad

[kind star]

Now yall got me hyper focused on my wg target after all that talk yday

[rustic copper]

I play 2 min on every fight

2 tv is very good

[kind star]

I love 2tv in keys

[analog gulch]

Worked well for me on belo prog btw so ty. Also, are you tranqing first or second intermission?

[spark river]

alright but what does that have to do with 2 min convoke

[kind star]

guess dropping 1min convoke for 2 point in tv?

[spark river]

[spark river]

no

[rustic copper]

First, I want to make sure we are all alive and comfy for 1st

[spark river]

You would lose your mind in keys

[kind star]

In raid just me being random talking about keys, dropped ND for 2tv in keys.

[rustic copper]

2nd does not matter

[analog gulch]

Kk, ty

[fervent path]

oh this addon is good

[glossy holly]

finally got the weapon, now to upgrade and boost in one go

[blissful goblet]

What’s tv stand for?

Televinesis

Turkey vat

Toronto vultures

[lyric surge]

Thriving vegetation

[grizzled seal]

His guild most likely doesn't get the full second egg phase

Id be surprised if they even got 30 seconds of that one, let alone full 40

[tame quiver]

Hey guys anyone able to watch me and see what I’m. Doing wrong

Like a vid review kinda thing

[pseudo pebble]

Is there a tool that can track lifebloom duration on any target and play a sound/visual when it hits like <= 3 seconds?

[kind star]

Lifebloom alert addon

Will give you a sound queue in pandemic and can also put a reminder every 1sec when it drops.

[pseudo pebble]

Thanks

[spark river]

is this a raid or an m+ question

[tame quiver]

M+

[trail crown]

Big, I need that

[sudden rover]

post it here

[tame quiver]

Okay

[tame quiver]

What’s best to record it I meant live tbh like I stream it

[sudden rover]

archon has a recording option or just obs, then you post it on youtube idk

lots of options

[knotty tapir]

Is there a way to track how many reju you have active?

[spark river]

hottracker

[dapper minnow]

I usually use the cooldown manager to watch abundance stacks. It is good until that icon disappears mid fight…

[knotty tapir]

Thank you!

[spark river]

rejuvs and abundance stacks are not the same

abundance only goes to 12

[knotty tapir]

That use to happen to me, had to change to bear form so it could appear again

that is why I changed to ayije

[exotic magnet]

what addon is this? i also would like it

[trail crown]

What was that macro again for focus>Self lifebloom, /cast [@Focus, exists, nodead][@player] Lifebloom?

[distant birch]

that should work, idk if you should capitalize focus though

[willow flower]

Is there any way to get your overall theoretical HPS using questionablyepic? not just the increase or decrease from items but the overal.

[thorn plover]

Too many factors to consider

[willow flower]

I mean there is one happening in the background that it is comparing to right? How else would i see that a trinket would add 400hps

[thorn plover]

It's just based on 1 stat = X hps
It's not actually a sim like raid bots.
Voulk will correct if I'm out to lunch here

[trail crown]

And I can do that with LB and SM right

[spark river]

dont macro sm

ty

[thorn plover]

What sola said

[distant birch]

Yeah it should work, you can just test it

[willow flower]

Got it. Thanks Purr that is why it is an instant sim cause it really isn't siming?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[trail crown]

It would help me improve my LB uptime and SM usage a lot if I can simplify the targets for those two in my M+ runs

[thorn plover]

You definitely don't do it in m+

[willow flower]

Appreciate you

[thorn plover]

Hard no

[sudden rover]

I macro rejuv on me only

[thorn plover]

People talking about macroing them is raid context only

[rustic copper]

What

[trail crown]

Oh shoot I hoped to take a shortcut and simplify my rotation a bit

[spark river]

shitty bait

[rustic copper]

We should delete macros

I mouseover my own frame to cast lifebloom every time

[fleet jewel]

mouseover macro

[sudden rover]

that was indeed bait

[rustic copper]

It’s not a macro

[proven phoenix]

I mouseover my own frame to cast lifebloom every time

[sudden rover]

I mouseover my own frame to cast lifebloom every time

[thorn plover]

I mouseover my own frame to cast lifebloom every time

[deft oar]

I mouseover my own frame to cast lifebloom every time

[bright swift]

I mouseover my own frame to cast lifebloom every time

[grand herald]

I mouseover my own frame to cast lifebloom every time

[thorn plover]

Switching to a bind add-on was a game changer for me. Down with mouseover macros

[fervent path]

Keystone Loot

[exotic magnet]

thanks!

[livid hearth]

fastest way to get 10 key? i can push from 2 and up but if i play 10 key with my friend, do the key i acquire 10 as well?

[thorn plover]

to get your own you have to push yours up

next week from vault youll get your highest key that you timed

[haughty ibex]

yessir if u play an 11 as first key u will get a 10

[thorn plover]

not until vault day tho

[haughty ibex]

if u alr have a 2 tho u wont, it has to be ur first key

[tough portal]

If you already got a 2 or whatever you wont get a new one, yeah

Has to be your first key

[haughty ibex]

yes he will, if it’s his first key

playing a 10 = getting a 9

[thorn plover]

i assumed he has a 2

since he said it

[bitter pumice]

should i ascendant voidcore on corespark multitool or gaze first?

[thorn plover]

weapon first, but it doesnt matter in the long run since theyre infinitely farmable

[bitter pumice]

ty

[livid hearth]

yeah havent done any key yet

[thorn plover]

but do you have a key in your bag

[livid hearth]

nope

so others are right

[lyric surge]

Then do the highest key you can with your friends

[livid hearth]

yeah ill try to get carried by a 11 then i can just pug my 10s without depleting it

[lyric surge]

So you'll start with a higher key

[thorn plover]

it will still deplete if you dont time it

[fervent path]

take 4 guardian druids

[inner sonnet]

why does healing feel so shit rn? 110k HPS overall in 16-17s, anyone else struggling or is it a problem in the chair?

[glossy holly]

could be related to ppl taking avoidable dmg/not using def cd's

[thorn plover]

why are you using hps as a metric in m+

[glossy holly]

but u can link the log for better picture

[thorn plover]

i finish my 18s with like 80k hps

[inner sonnet]

first metric I reached for and available

[thorn plover]

HPS is bad to look at in m+

[glossy holly]

yea like

[inner sonnet]

yeah maybe

[thorn plover]

unless youre asking, why is it so high

[inner sonnet]

but it does tell me my output

[glossy holly]

my overall hps is 50-60k throughout the journey from low m+ to +10 lol

[thorn plover]

no it tells you your party is shit

[inner sonnet]

yeah am I having to heal more than is necessary basically

necessary meaning avoidable damage

[glossy holly]

whats exactly the problem though

people dying?

[thorn plover]

so are you asking why your healing is an issue or why your party is an issue

could be 2 seperate things

[inner sonnet]

I was asking if anyone else felt like a slog healing through 16-17s

[thorn plover]

if youre pugging, of course it is

[glossy holly]

well i cant comment on that

[inner sonnet]

pugging actually feels better

[glossy holly]

im only in 10-11

[thorn plover]

then maybe its time to find a different m+ group if pugging feels better

lol

[inner sonnet]

friends mate, they are lovely people

[glossy holly]

im sure they are

[thorn plover]

then help them get better

[glossy holly]

but maybe check from the meter if they are taking avoidable dmg

[inner sonnet]

like these people arent dog tier either but they arent title pushers by a long shot

but idk

[thorn plover]

i mean im finishing 18s at like 85k hps. youre taking a lot more damage than that somehow

[glossy holly]

there are definitely variables involving dmg taken

such as missed interrupts

avoidable dmg

usage of def cd's

[rigid frigate]

Are 2 handed myth non-crafted better than myth crafted ascended? ( assuming if stats are the same )

[glossy holly]

m track weapon is slightly better

[thorn plover]

both upgraded to 298 or what are you asking

[rigid frigate]

yeah 295 vs 298

[inner sonnet]

im just gonna go play runescape

[thorn plover]

non crafted is slightly better

[rigid frigate]

okay tyty

[tough portal]

I dont think people generally feel that way on resto druid rn no, the spec is really strong at 5-man healing and has pretty straight forward gameplay

[inner sonnet]

class/spec feels amazing, i just dont wanna cop out on blaming others, surely I must be doing something wrong

ill get some logs

[thorn plover]

if youre finishing the dungeon at 110k hps overall, its a them problem

[rustic copper]

You need to craft arcanoweave in another slot for non crafted weapon to be better

[tough portal]

I dont trust this type of generalization without seeing logs

[thorn plover]

thats an insane amount of damage in a 15 or 16

[tough portal]

Was it really 110k overall tho

We dont know that

They also said 17s

It can also very well be self healing

[inner sonnet]

I average out around 100-110k around there, obviously inflating ego

me surviving isnt an issue tbh, just topping people and keeping them healthy seems like a struggle

[thorn plover]

they said 110k overall, and yes youre right i misread, its 16-17

[inner sonnet]

and im not being reactive either I feel like

[glossy holly]

does your party do big pulls often then

[sudden rover]

yeah I have the same feeling, could not explain why. I almost never play my druid anymore, only my rogue. Dpsing feels so much more enjoyable atm

[tough portal]

I know what they said, I said I dont trust what people say without logs

[thorn plover]

fair

[tough portal]

"I do 110k overall" is a generalization too that Iw as talking about

No group takes the same amount of damage every key

[thorn plover]

my "highest" hps according to logs is a 18 caverns at 86k hps overall

[exotic magnet]

finally got the myth achieve on my druid - can I get discounted upgrades on my remaining myth items by upgrading items in those slots on an alt? (does that alt need the achieve, or is just having the upgraded items enough?)

[glossy holly]

alt doesnt need ach

[thorn plover]

if that alt has upgraded items in that slot, you get the discount on your main

[exotic magnet]

neat

[stable verge]

sad druid noises

Still no idea why SR was like that but I feel like every seat key is a high hps one

[thorn plover]

oof

[stable verge]

Sheesh

[hearty coral]

You are on asp there's another button you can hit to show the hps

[stable verge]

Explains why I was sweating bullets through it

[hearty coral]

Unless the k is hiding to the side

[stable verge]

It is

I cropped it bad but hps is on the right

[hearty coral]

Yeah that's rough then lol

[stable verge]

Needless to say I never averaged more than 15k dps for these keys kek

But ye some groups are rougher than others I guess

[hearty coral]

I have an 86k 15 pit lmao

[thorn plover]

my dps

[hearty coral]

Erm

[thorn plover]

dont mind that

[hearty coral]

One of those looks a little sus

[thorn plover]

bear

[hearty coral]

Lol

[stable verge]

Sounds nice, may even have time to think about upcoming mecanics

[hearty coral]

I think the tank maybe effects it a lot

I have a BDK run where my hps is super low

But it was smooth

[glossy holly]

sheesh

should i just be healer full time or what

my little dps character cant even get into mere +10

lmao

its bit ridiculous to create my own group everytime for +10's

[stable verge]

That's... Odd

Are you super low on gear or did you jump from +2 to +10?

[stable verge]

Haven't healed one in legit a month, they don't exist ahah

[glossy holly]

in time all dungeons 8-9 levels, gear 267ilvl

[stable verge]

I'm assuming you're fighting 280+ilvl people in the queue with around 3k score

Since everyone and their grandma have 280ilvl

[glossy holly]

i dont mind that there is tons of competition at this point

but man i've spent 3 hours queueing

[stable verge]

Yes that's a bit weird

Ofc people will never pick you over the 2000 people better geared but yeah that's rough

[glossy holly]

mmhm

i guess it will be a 4 +10 vault for my dps then

[stable verge]

Hey can be good enough

Worst case you get an extra roll anyway

[glossy holly]

thats true

yeah this aint looking good

AA might be bad key to start with

[viral pelican]

Hi! For raiding, is there any logic of when to use convoke the spirits, should I do wild growth and swiftmend into rejuv before that or if everyone is taking a lot of damage should I use convoke right away? Are there conditions to check before using convoke the spirits this patch like amounts of rejuv out?

[mint gate]

With 1m Convoke there's a pretty high chance to cast Flourish (even still, I think) so yeah you want to ramp into Convoke a little. Of course if ramping means a death (that your other healers can't/won't cover), Convoking unramped is still preferable to losing a Rebirth charge.
Same logic, if you're going to Tranq try to do so after Convoke

[viral pelican]

Thanks! Do you have a certain amount of rejuvs out before tranquility?

[mint gate]

Admittedly I don't track it as well as I should, and my CD usage is... Usually more reactionary to catch up from danger. I don't think I've ever had more than ~13 Abundance stacks, so 8-10 might feel comfy?

[viral pelican]

Ok thank you! I will try 8 - 10

[glossy holly]

usually u would try 12 abundance and spam rg

in raid

obviously depending on raid size

10man thats a lot

[mint gate]

Well yeah for wax/wane but going into Tranq

[exotic zephyr]

I'm looking through some top logs and I'm only seeing resto druids in super high keys casting like 2 typhoons a dungeon. Do they just have their ccs organized enough to not need more? I feel like I have a good opportunity to get a stop every pack. Also wouldn't skipping one rake global for us to cc be less lost value than a dps skipping a button press?

[glossy holly]

rdruids typically dont have hard CC's talented

knocks and fear shout at most

[thorn whale]

Depends on what dungeon you’re looking at. I think most dungeons stops are not really needed and single interrupts are enough

[tulip whale]

Is it okay to post a log here, so people can rewiew and tell my why i dont do more than 135k HPS on HC Lura, when i play perfectly? Imo I play better than rank 16 but my regrowths do no healing, thats why my damage is shit, but how come they do no healing I don't understand

here is the log:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2b4xMdzgXV6K8Lc1?fight=last&type=healing&source=15

[glossy holly]

u have had moments where your abundance hasnt dropped stacks at all so you have been spreading rejuvs more often than necessary and should have casted RG instead until stacks dropped to around 6-7 abundance

u will also improve healing efficiency if u didnt try to contribute with dps too

but i got no personal experience regarding priorities with lura but thats what logs tell

[gentle nova]

Playing perfectly but missing 10+ cpm
Is wild take

[hasty current]

I will also say gold parsing in a pug is only going to happen if the other healers suck

Can only heal so much

Half my hc pugging is dps cause nobody needs healing

Get those 100 dps parses dawg

[gentle nova]

Wild takes today

Who cares if its heroic

You can use heroic healing to practice and get better

Hes not playing perfect as he claims so yes he can do more healing

[hasty current]

Sure im just saying he seems to care about top parsing

And to top parse thats what you need

Not sure how thats a wild take

[tough portal]

"It's not your fault, Get those 100 dps parses dawg" is a crazy thing to say

To someone posting a log asking for advice

[gentle nova]

^

Like i open the log and immediately see mistakes but it doesnt matter since its heroic and theres no damage i guess

[grizzled seal]

pretty sure your cds are just late there

unless heroic is wildly different

all convokes happen after crystals die, they need to happen during

[gentle nova]

It is. Theres no damage on pull

The crystal interrupt shit happens like a min in on heroic

[tough portal]

Also use potion of recklessness

[hasty current]

Never said it wasn't his fault

[smoky sail]

Having both tanks in your too 3 regrowth casts is also a bit weird

[hasty current]

Just said getting parses takes x

[gentle nova]

Yeah for instance it takes you playing better

So focus on what you can change not on whats out of your control

[hasty current]

I don't disagree

Dont know why everyone took what I said as an affront

[thorn plover]

This conversation got slightly derailed

[hasty current]

I agree

[tulip whale]

I was looking at summary for rank 16 and on the summary imo it seems I played better🤷🏼‍♂️

[hasty current]

I just wanted the man to know that part of parsing in heroic is about the other healers as well

[viral pelican]

Hi guys, is this trinket any good? I wondered if it's less HPS overall but does it gain value by being HPS that is more likely to prevent death?

[main timber]

If you aren't doing like late mythic you won't proc enough of the stacks to do anything at all with it really

[tough portal]

Cosmic Crescendo is good

But you're in territory of taking ilvl upgrades

More than anything

[viral pelican]

Thanks! What about in Mythic+

Is it better in Mythic + score?

[main timber]

In Mythic+ you often lose stacks to the mobs dying with it before it procs

It isn't awful, but I wouldn't seek it out

Like Face said you just need higher ilvl items in general

[smoky sail]

You are also like comparing your 20ish man log with 4 healers to most likely underhealed roster

[tulip whale]

What about telling what I can improve on instead of acting this toxic?

[smoky sail]

So thats also why the numbers seem off

[tough portal]

Your bonus rolls should probably be going into M+, then mythic Chimaerus if you can get that kill, otherwise still M+

[viral pelican]

Oh I was a fool I didn't really know what those did so I used them all in the normal raid XD

I think maybe M+ would be better as now I hear you can get mythic track for 10s

I honestly thought it was a thing to buff normal raid gear

Or make it more attractive to do

[tulip whale]

So how do I get good parses then? It seems my regrowth hits for shit even tho my average crit is higher than the guy pushing 190k hps?

[smoky sail]

[hasty current]

3 heal

[thorn plover]

Worrying about parses as a healer is funny to me

[tulip whale]

The guy I am comparing to was 4 healing

[hasty current]

I agree the problem is alot of the community bases invites around parses unfortunately

[viral pelican]

I think these upgrade gear right ? I have this situation should I wait to use it until I get a 289 staff?

[tough portal]

You have low Regrowth casts

[smoky sail]

Target better or idk

[tough portal]

Lower APM than you'd like in general

[smoky sail]

Logs on phone is cancer

Oh

Press your buttons

45cpm

[grand herald]

99% of the time a log review can be solved by telling the person to have better uptime

[hasty current]

Can you link the log you are comparing

[thorn plover]

theres just nothing to heal, its heroic

[smoky sail]

Also lots of healer logs depend on the competency of other healers

[tulip whale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rCwgFVT438tZLMbn?fight=119&type=healing&source=703

[tough portal]

You could have gotten an extra Convoke cast by just using it on CD more effectively and your Tranqs extended less than they could have, you should Tranq after a Convoke ramp and you should have tranqd at better damage spike timings

[tulip whale]

I guess it’s also just too few casts. I can see the Chinese guy have higher cpm than me

[thorn plover]

you have 41 cpm, hes got 48

thats a big difference

[tulip whale]

I see

[gentle nova]

How is the chinese using convoke 6 times

[tough portal]

Convoke into Tranq, and Tranq on a real damage spike

[tough portal]

0 1 2 3 4 5

That's 6

You dont need 6 minutes for 6 casts bestie

[gentle nova]

True

[thorn plover]

the china log has way more haste

[gentle nova]

Haste dont matter

[tough portal]

Guys thats korean

[thorn plover]

its all the same man

[smoky sail]

Also like you wanna log on lura and you dont heal the crystals at all???

[tough portal]

??

[main timber]

Not even the same script

[tulip whale]

Yeah my girlfriend called me and I was eating pizza xD but I used tranc there if I remember correctly

[hasty current]

Lmao

[smoky sail]

[tulip whale]

Well thanks for the input. Nice to get humbled

[smoky sail]

Also weird to compare logs with different raid sizes

[thorn plover]

way bigger raid same amount of healers

of course he healed more

[tulip whale]

I just looked at the date and saw they were 4 healers

[viral pelican]

I want aboyfriend to feed me pizza while doing heroic raid as resto druid 😄

We can feed each other while everyone dies

and cackle

Does she know you are saving lives?? Of potentially gnomes?

[upbeat flame]

Anyone have any tips on aggro in keys? I keep getting clapped either on the first pull of the dungeon or between pulls when there are still hots up in 17s/18s

[tough portal]

Stealth

Or just dont be next to the tank while stuff is gathered

Drop a vortex if stuff is coming towards you

Shadowmeld

[spark river]

did i miss a log to be toxic

[thorn plover]

eh

[tulip flax]

any chicken rdruids here doing high keys ?

[hushed sand]

What is happening rn. Lol

[marsh prism]

[fleet jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/glorp-chicken-turkey-alien-alien-cat-gif-3441906945271082344

[sinful jackal]

What if ur not night elf

[tough portal]

Tough luck

[thorn plover]

Tell your tank to push their buttons

[formal fjord]

Racist!

[thorn plover]

[main timber]

tbf they are as similar as Chinese and... English

[formal fjord]

Here, let me be somewhat helpful. Focus on your regrowth casts 🙂 Any questions lmk, basically you need to be using your abundance to spam those suckers.

[formal fjord]

yep. Characters dont instantly = same

[austere cairn]

Hi y'all, going towards +19's, at this point should I start dropping some mastery for vers or mastery keeps being a priority?
Thank you 🙏🏻

[fleet jewel]

never

[austere cairn]

okok ty

[haughty ibex]

u shld switch at the point where u start getting os even with bear + uv

[austere cairn]

I've seen some people with some neck and ring vers that's why I asked

[haughty ibex]

= not now or in a while

[austere cairn]

What's uv if I may ask

[haughty ibex]

urisne vigor sorry

[austere cairn]

oh yeah ok ok I understand

so basically druid instead of vers just uses the armor + stamina from bear to survive, gotcha

[haughty ibex]

i wouldn’t actively look to switch up gear tho, is quite minor but can’t think of any mechanic that could one shot u at that keylvl

[haughty ibex]

yep broken defensive perma available at the cost of one gcd

[austere cairn]

Thank you for the help

[raw prairie]

helo, i'm too lazy to look-up a macro to change me into moonkin form before i starsurge with fluid form as a resto druid inbetween heals and i'm asking here if anyone has that and if it works, thank you

i assume it doesn't work because changing into moonkin triggers gcd

[thorn plover]

There are so many things wrong with that sentence

Idk where to start

[raw prairie]

you can cast starsurge without moonokin form

so that's a no ?

[fervent mica]

you do not ever want to enter owl

[grand herald]

moonkin form is a dps loss

[vagrant niche]

what type of healing addons do players like to use in Midnight?

[grand herald]

raid frames, some sort of cooldown tracking stuff

clique esque addons

[vagrant niche]

ok ty

[glossy holly]

vuhdo

[fickle garden]

Danders Frames/grid 2 are the best imo

Vuhdoo is an option for sure

[thorn plover]

Are you allowed in the pally discord if you don't recommend Ellesmere

[raw prairie]

context = i wanted that extra 10% dmg buff from moonkin form, seems not worth it, i do not see how it would be a "dps loss", but since you cannot auto switch before the surge cast and the spells are castable in humanoid form, imma be dropping fluid form, PEACE

thx and have a good day

[fervent mica]

you lose the haste buff from lycara

[thorn plover]

🫪

[half star]

Because of the Lycara’s talent, you change to mastery instead of haste when in chicken form, and mastery is 0 dps boost

So yeah, no point to use a t3 talent point on fluid form

[fervent mica]

its not necessarily a damage loss... they're fairly close. but you lose the gcd or a talent point

neither of which are worth spending for what is basically the same

[grand herald]

moving that talent point from fluid form to the second lycaras makes it 10% magic damage vs 4% magic damage and 6% haste