resto

[steel plank]

Trying to figure our why its spread is 20yd range

[grand herald]

There are levels of "smart" for smart heals

[thorn plover]

Yeah the range is slightly annoying

[grand herald]

WG is one of the few that is fully smart

[onyx cosmos]

Yea WG is the only one I noticed that does it

[rustic copper]

How can I make sure I am low enough that wg hits me

[onyx cosmos]

Just cast WG on yourself

[rustic copper]

That doesn’t work

[grand herald]

Stand in bad

[onyx cosmos]

Oh that doesn’t work?

[grand herald]

Yeah WG doesnt necessarily hit your target

[onyx cosmos]

Oof

[grand herald]

It hits the lowest x units in range of your target

[onyx cosmos]

Feel like whoever it’s cast on should be the first one to receive it

[thorn plover]

Lmao we just did this convo this morning

[onyx cosmos]

My b

I’m late

[thorn plover]

Wait til you find out you can cast it on enemies

[onyx cosmos]

Ridiculous

Spaghetti ass code

[grand herald]

I wouldnt call it spaghetti

Its just how it works

And you can abuse it to your benefit

Cast on last boss of magisters for example

To hit everyone

[onyx cosmos]

WG?

Was it ever a range issue in that fight?

[thorn plover]

Yeah if your DPS is off in the opposite corner soaking an orb for example

There are other fights it's useful too

[onyx cosmos]

Hmmmm I never really noticed it, maybe I was casting it on boss

[elfin dust]

My favorite WG moment was having Dimensions targeted in P1 last season, and casting WG would hit no-one because Dimensius was too far away from the raid...

[thorn plover]

There's uses for it, they are few tho

[slender gust]

Is it possible to copy the output of QELive Top Gear as a SimC string and run it through Upgrade Finder as a quick sanity check? I'm close enough to what I think is theoretical BiS given the raid loot I am likely to have access to and wanted to see what that looks like, so I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything

[thorn plover]

What

[slender gust]

Or am I gonna have to go in and manually edit my own personal SimC string adding in the items I don't actually have in bags yet?

[thorn plover]

Just click upgrade finder in qe?

Or am I misunderstanding what you're asking

[grand herald]

Id just throw all the items that are an upgrade in upgrade finder into a top gear sim

See what your best set it

[slender gust]

So I ran a Top Gear sim in QELive adding in a bunch of items I don't have yet/aren't fully upgraded yet to see what my theoretical BiS loadout would be to decide what to do with Voidcores, since I am likely close. This is the output from QE. Is it possible to turn THIS output directly into a SimC string, and then run that through Droptimizer?

I assumed it was just the Export button, but I clicked that and nothing seemed to happen

[wise galleon]

Yes but that was not what I was saying

Yes but that was not what I was saying either

[haughty ibex]

okay then what were u saying

[wise galleon]

I was just wondering if maybe for M+ some passive trinkets are better because damage events are not as predictable as raiding

[thorn plover]

You want to know if based on this loadout if it thinks there are upgrades for you still?

[wise galleon]

There is always a difference for what performs well in M+ trinkets over raid trinkets

[haughty ibex]

but damage events in m+ are 90% of the times predictable, and passive trinkets proc isnt predictable either

and anyways, if qe says smth thats the correct thing, it takes into account everything

[wise galleon]

Again, im not saying QE is simming wrong...

[haughty ibex]

no i understand im just saying

[slender gust]

I have a Litany on my 2nd druid just b/c it's the best I have, and I hate it. I almost never use it b/c like when is it gonna proc properly? The situation where I can afford 5 damage globals at the right time when the group needs a shield feel like they don't come up that often, so I'm not getting very good use out of the trinket

[thorn plover]

Hotw procs it in 1 global

[haughty ibex]

that if qe says that an active trinekt is better than a passive one, than is true. but on top of the data u get, u also need to consider ur gameplay and what u like/dislike or find hard. i would never play with emberwing trinket cuz i hate active trinkets, even if it sims a bit better

[main timber]

Nah there isn't support for that. It's hypothetically doable but not on my to-do list for the next build

It's a little niche so

[slender gust]

Yes. In theory, if I have done this correctly, Upgrade finder should only show items from raid bosses I don't expect to kill.

[wise galleon]

Yes, now, how efficient do I have to be with litany compared to a passive trinket to obtain that 0.1% gain?, how do I play with litany to make it sim as its showing? On CD? Treat is as an extra big cd?

So the sims are assuming optimal play usually

[main timber]

Nah they don't assume 100% optimal play

[thorn plover]

Interesting idea I guess. Looks like voulk responded.
Outside of writing your own simc string I guess not

[wise galleon]

[main timber]

You probably should cast it on CD

[wise galleon]

kek okay mb

[main timber]

But it assumes like 90% usage or something

I don't remember if I added that to its tooltip or added a setting for that one in particular

[thorn plover]

Litany just feels bad. I can't get into using it

[main timber]

Yeah it's reasonable to decide it's too much effort

[haughty ibex]

i understand ur question and voulk alr half answered it so np, as every other active trinket u need to treat it as an extra cd kinda, its up to u to decide if its worth implementing it in ur gameplay

i refuse to play any active trinket even if it sims better cuz i cba so

[wise galleon]

How strong it is, I dont have a good understanding of numbers. Wild growth level or tranq level?

[main timber]

I will just give an accurate ranking for it and you can decide whether it's worth the effort

[limpid elm]

what's the consensus on what to upgrade with nilhammer first? weapon? i thought i was a genius manually adding all my mythic gear into QE at 298 ilvl for the top gear sim but failed to remember it'll just tell me to equip all of it lol. is there a way to see what would be the single best upgrade in cases you want to prioritize something?

[main timber]

Weapon is clear choice

[wise galleon]

Convert to vault, and select vault

[thorn plover]

They're unlimited so it really doesn't matter, but weapon gives you the most power

[limpid elm]

genius

ty all

[haughty ibex]

cant rly answer like that, also depends how u use and where u use. i feel like on rdruid is less useful compared to monk for example. at least imo, cuz u have so many tools to heal and u dont rely that much on cds but more on preparation

ig litany becomes mandatory when shit would start os u unless u have externals or shields, but dont think anyone is even at that kl yet

[wise galleon]

Ill try playing with it some and see how trash iam

[tough portal]

I would say it's the opposite, M+ doesnt have damage happening at all times so random procs are inherently less valuable than on-use trinkets, especially when it's a massive amount of mastery that acts as a standalone CD for us

[spark river]

Voulk will we have 298 trinkets in the upgrade finder?

[main timber]

Yeah, I'll push that in a little bit

[spark river]

[main timber]

I added it to dev already

[thorn plover]

Nah look at top keys done, no one using it

[haughty ibex]

ye that was my point, like theroetically it becomes needed when reaching that point but ye

also litany is used by so few druids no?

[spark river]

I always wanted to play some dumb shit and get top100 so people see it in murlok lol

[thorn plover]

Lmao

[tough portal]

Just really hard to justify it as a healer

That doesnt auto proc it

I'd almost like to see it from a dps

[thorn plover]

Aug trinket

[spark river]

does litany line up with ff?

cd wise

aug and monk with litany is quite a powerful group

[haughty ibex]

literally aug trinekt is so good when they have that

[rustic copper]

Why would I want to cast ff when I want to heal

[spark river]

keys

[rustic copper]

The fact that you need to stop healing to use the trinket is a massive downside

[spark river]

keys

[rustic copper]

Does it being for keys justify it being stupid

[wary belfry]

keys

[rustic copper]

Saying the stupid idea is ok because it is for m+

Based

[whole horizon]

i mean thats a valid point in m+ more than raid

you can usually spare a global in raid and somebody isnt going to die bc of it

[rustic copper]

True

[whole horizon]

it only feels good on monk

it would feel good on hpala if it toll proc'd all 5 stacks

it would feel good on druid if convoke proc'd all 5 stacks

but it doesnt because they dont like people to have fun

[tough portal]

Idk using a healing cd to proc another healing cd just sounds lame too

[spark river]

I just think all of these absorb trinkets are cringe

[wise galleon]

Sooo i should be using litany with HoTW?

[spark river]

hotw procs litany yes

You shouldnt be playing litany at all

But if you are thats how you proc it

[wise galleon]

even shred procs litany huh weird, i thought shred wasnt a spell

[wise galleon]

because...

[spark river]

Because other trinkets are way better?

[soft slate]

when looking at top resto druids on warcraft logs and looking at their stats, does it take into consideration buffs on the person? or just raw stats from gear/enchants/gems?

[main timber]

It's just a snapshot of their stat ratings when key / raid starts

So if they smash an intellect pot then that'll be included

Flasks are included

Raid buffs are % so are not

[spark river]

Pre pull reck pot would show right

[main timber]

Yes

I am not sure why you'd do that but

[worn marsh]

omg I jsut bonus rolled Vaelgor trinket! do you guys pop it off cd during raid?

[spark river]

I do it on some bosses to get 2 combat pots in a fight

[soft slate]

follow up question then, is there a way to see a summary/average of the stats of top resto druids? Idk if I have to much haste or not, or if more mastery is better

[spark river]

If you raid

[grand herald]

I wouldnt compare to other people

[spark river]

Just go as much haste as possible

[grand herald]

You can qelive your stats

[spark river]

In keys go a bit higher mastery

[soft slate]

okay thanks, do a bit of both so I'll just chill then where I'm at

[slender gust]

Are we ever Owl voke or HotW for damage or is it always just cat on ST only?

[spark river]

You can owl hotw on very large aoe like first pull academy

Other than that you would almost always cat hotw

Owl voke is not worth it, its very weak

[glossy holly]

how the hell did boss melee hit twice in row on the dps right before light array thing at nexus point's corewarden

np 300k dmg taken in a second

[proven phoenix]

it probably wasnt the boss it was the add

dreadflail

[spark river]

yup

add frontal

[glossy holly]

i see

[kind star]

died from a dreadflail on the boss yday but it was a melee so its not the frontal

[fervent mica]

that add gets a buff that causes its melees to splash everything in front of it

[kind star]

ah, I wasnt aware was wondering how tank didnt even get aggro at all.

Learned that in a 12 so not too bad x)

[severe shoal]

what loot spec should i bonus roll npx on for light ring?

[rustic copper]

Guardian if you don’t want the weapon, balance if you still need a myth haste mastery weapon

[livid hearth]

I forgot about loot spec swapping. Can u explain or just basic rule for when to lootspec swapping?

[hearty coral]

If it lowers the pool and it doesn't remove an item you want

It makes your chance to get said items go up

You can use the adventurer guide to check item pool for each spec

It removes shitty healing trinkets

Which there are a lot of that are bad

[livid hearth]

ok i see ty

[rustic copper]

Yes, that also applies to vaults

I’ve opened my vault twice in balance and the rest of the times in guardian

Never in resto

[spark river]

i have opened in every loot spec and can tell you that im just cursed

[obsidian folio]

Did I hear that bonus roll duplicate protection is per-spec though? So if you've already sent some rolls in a dungeon you might not want to swap loot spec?

[thorn plover]

Yes it is per spec

Hover over the bonus roll thing at the end of the dungeon and it shows what you're eligible for.

[hushed sand]

There is an addon called Loot Spec Swapper that is pretty handy for this as well.

[chilly dawn]

Hello there. A question about Druid Heal in Raid environnement.
When WG and SM are both available and Ramping for Convoke/Tranq is it better to

• SM => Rejuv => WG => Convoke
  or
• SM => WG => Rejuv => Convoke

??

[urban kestrel]

I dont think it's a big deal in regards to prepping convoke/tranq specifically, but it's better to get WG on cd sooner in general

[thorn plover]

WG before rejuv for more mastery stacks out

I don't think it matters. Don't think about it too hard lol

[urban kestrel]

Also weird question, I've been doing some testing with potion of zealotry to see if I could make it work for my lura 2nd pot and wtf is going on with this item?

like I applied 15-20 stacks of the debuff

but it only deals damage when the debuff is a multiple of 10

[rustic copper]

What does rhat potion do

[urban kestrel]

so it only hits 2 or 3 times

it's a damage proc stacking with a debuff that goes up when you hit a single target

but I'm pretty sure a dev fucked up and it only does damage to mobs with 0 or 10 stacks

cause if it worked the way it read and dealt damage on every debuff stack it'd do like 300-400k

instead it does 30-50k

[rustic copper]

Why are you dps potting Lura

Can we get real

[urban kestrel]

there wouldnt be anything else to use a reck pot on in p3

might as well do some dam

[spark river]

thats definitely one angle to look at it lol

[urban kestrel]

yeah though there's definitely some bad programming here, shit does 30k on st and 200k on 2 target

[bright swift]

@grizzled seal you just play 2 min convoke on Beloren right

first time rekilling it now

[grizzled seal]

I just specced tree

the boss died

idk

[bright swift]

oh

I could do that too I guess

[grizzled seal]

maybe it's bad, I did zero research into this

[rustic copper]

2 min convoke and cd both p2’s

I did a stupid amount of healing on my last beloren

[night flint]

i shoulda just be trying to send for 4pc asap right?

[urban kestrel]

the only real benefit of 1min convoke is you get to cover a color swaps or heal absorb round in 2nd p1 I guess

as long as you'll be playing a lot you'll get plenty more catalyst charges so yeah its fine to just throw even vet gear in at this point, if it's a char you won't be playing too much feel free to hold for hero or myth

[runic elm]

can someone recommend me a build to start healing +15, +16s M+

[night flint]

i'll just send then what's ideal off piece?

helm/chest?

[spark river]

chest

[urban kestrel]

ideal off piece is chest

[night flint]

cool ty

[rustic copper]

Chest shoulders and gloves

[fervent mica]

Wowhead

[runic elm]

Thanks

and for trinkets Hearth of Wind + Gaze of Alsneer was fine?

[spark river]

yes

[spark river]

where do you get gloves

[thorn plover]

4 piece is doodoo

[rustic copper]

Craft

[spark river]

Yeah im probably going to shift my gear a bit later to drop 4pc

[thorn plover]

I'm running 3 pieces with off shoulders and chest currently

Just haven't been able to pivot to gloves yet

[spark river]

I got crafted chest so I need to get a myth chest before i switch to a gloves craft

[rustic copper]

You need shoulders

[vocal vine]

any danders users? how do i disable debuffs like magister terrace buff to show in party frames . it gets too confusing

[spark river]

I know I ll get those in maisara next week probably

Just looking to not lose ilvl from chest to gloves

There should be a blacklist in danders of what you dont want to see

[haughty ibex]

for m+ too or

[spark river]

yeah

[haughty ibex]

what the helly

[spark river]

4p is very underwhelming

[haughty ibex]

are u baiting me

[spark river]

no lol

just read what it does

[haughty ibex]

no im aware but like whats the other option

if u have 4 myth set

[spark river]

basically what we are talking about

getting more haste mastery items

instead of 4p

shoulders and hands

have 2p on legs and head

[haughty ibex]

is it possible to sim that on qelive

for sure it is idk ignore me

[thorn plover]

It sims worse

Qe says 4pc is worth like 3% but there's just no way

In an ideal scenario where you push WG exactly on cd every time I believe it

But that's not reality

[spark river]

yeah you cant just sustain 5 cpm on wg throughout a fight

it has to be worth it

[urban kestrel]

Gotta optimize around +22 lura

[haughty ibex]

idk if ur talking about raid but m+ boss fight u 100% can

[main timber]

Even if it is worth less, it is very hard to outvalue any tier set with a secondary swap alone

[thorn plover]

not without going oom

[main timber]

Huh? Oom in M+?

[thorn plover]

no im talking raid

[proven phoenix]

I dont think people realise how little impact swapping tier set secondaries makes

like going from a haste mastery helm to a full haste helm

wow....

[thorn plover]

we know its very little impact, but its more impact than not using the 4 piece at all

thats the only argument

its miniscule

[main timber]

I actually dont even know what position you are taking anymore

[thorn plover]

im taking the position that 4 piece is useless

[spark river]

playing both sides so he never loses

[proven phoenix]

I will not be swapping my tier even though I really want to equip the lura helm

oom is not a consideration on farm

[spark river]

well not head

why not swap shoulders and gloves

[proven phoenix]

I probably still wont

[thorn plover]

isnt leech worthless

[main timber]

It is much better than swapping secondaries

[thorn plover]

huge

[proven phoenix]

honestly this is the most checked out ive ever been post prog

[main timber]

If you use that mana that is worth way more than swapping two stats

[proven phoenix]

the raid buff isnt even fully stacked yet, we arent max ilvl and most bosses are 2-3 healable

[spark river]

thats like 5 rejuvs

[thorn plover]

yeah its honestly laughable

[proven phoenix]

the only 2 gear upgrades I have left are alleria neck and lura ring

I'm 50/50 on alleria neck next week

from bonus roll

[main timber]

Mana behaves as a secondary if you spend it. That's ~2.2% extra mana over the fight

Now look at how trivial swapping secondaries is

It is a shit tier set, but you are doing 0 analysis on this

You can argue it isn't 3%, but it's really obviously more than 0.4 too

[thorn plover]

my analysis is that im casting wg 3 cpm with or without the tier set

[main timber]

You can always use extra mana on this spec

So even ignoring the CDR you are mistaken

If the CDR is occasionally useful too then that is an added bonus

[rustic copper]

Swapping mastery to haste is actually minor, swapping crit or vers to haste/mastery is big

[haughty ibex]

yeah maybe on an offpiece but on tierset?

idk maybe the arugemnt is diff for raid and im clueless but sounds freaky

[rustic copper]

I am not a believer in pressing wg being that much better than a regrowth need a source

[thorn plover]

i run 4 piece in m+, not in raid

[rustic copper]

Additional regrowths go absolutely crazy

When they are free always crit and heal everyone with nb and make every future regrowth nb cleave that target

[haughty ibex]

then u def arent casting wg 3cpm on any boss

[thorn plover]

what are you talking about

thats raid context

you can cast all the wg you want in m+

mana is unlimited

[haughty ibex]

ye and i asked earlier if people were acc considering switching off tierset in m+

and i got told yes

[thorn plover]

i never said yes to that?

[spark river]

I did

And my point still stands

[haughty ibex]

ur right broskiman not u solarena did

[spark river]

It isnt any more useful in keys

[haughty ibex]

sorry for this horrible mistake i did

take a deep breath now

[haughty ibex]

but how like im actually ingnrant

explain it to me like im 2yo

[spark river]

are you having mana problems

[thorn plover]

because you dont need to save mana

[spark river]

in your keys

[haughty ibex]

no

[main timber]

It isn't better in keys really, but also the secondary swap is even less impactful

So it probably doesn't matter if you just equip it

[main timber]

I'll fix my spell chart in a bit since I'm curious

[grizzled seal]

WG also procs implant and it's on a separate proc for symbiotic blooms

idk my hps goes up when I cast more WGs

[thorn plover]

4 piece doesnt really let you cast more wgs tho

[main timber]

Why not

[thorn plover]

on a 7 min fight it saved me enough mana to press 3 more

[main timber]

What are you spending the extra mana on

[thorn plover]

regrowths

[grizzled seal]

???

how are you spending mana on regrowths

[thorn plover]

personally i press 4

[rustic copper]

1 more wg of mana every 5 minutes at the cost of secondaries and 1 regrowth cast

[grizzled seal]

it scales with the number of WG casts

[thorn plover]

casting more wg means i can cast more wg?

[idle lake]

we all lowkey gay

[trail escarp]

honestly i use tierset and dont understand why anyone wouldnt, but lets all agree to stop using tierset as a widespread movement to make blizzard make it less crap

[idle lake]

bring back tww season 2 one

insurance mightve been most fun thing ever

[main timber]

Might be a bit late for that. Maybe we can get a better one in season 2

[trail escarp]

insurance was dope

[main timber]

They did intend for these to be a bit shit

Ours is just rougher than most

[spark river]

a bit is an understatement

[idle lake]

i liked having the hero talent tiersets

was a cool way to approach it

next patch druids are going to be able to attune to any creature to gain it as a shapeshift form

[thorn plover]

i just want them to make fluid form make healing spells shift me into cosmetic tree form

[idle lake]

i hope they dont i like my tmog

would be a funny glyph though

[main timber]

Will have an Apex tier set before the expansion is done

[summer igloo]

I'd pay so much for that glyph if it were a thing

[idle lake]

what would that even be

lifebloom heals.. even more !!!!!!!!!!

[trail escarp]

I miss tree form having a bonus effect 🙁

[mystic crater]

I don’t

[main timber]

Yes basically

Probably 2pc that buffs the splash % and a 4pc that buffs the amount of blooms you get from Apex4

[spark river]

that sounds absurdly broken

[main timber]

Will likely be the season 3 set

But we might have 5x apex reworks by then

[thorn plover]

that few?

lol

[main timber]

This self target thing is awkward, I could see them taking aim at that

it plays fine, but the mechanics of it might not be here long-term

[thorn plover]

they gotta make us play kotg in some content

[spark river]

idk i just like wildstalker more

[mint gate]

I could see shifting the blooming WG PvP talent into the tree over mastery stacks or smth

[spark river]

pvp ew

[mint gate]

Obviously number changes downward along with

[thorn plover]

i want auto spreading rejuvs

[mint gate]

Every other WG applying LB to every target? HNNNG

[main timber]

If you mean Early Spring then we're never getting that thing

[mint gate]

Let me dream 🙁

[spark river]

how about photo proc applying a rejuv to a random target

[idle lake]

they should rework germinate to just cast rejuvenate twice

[thorn plover]

you guys are never allowed to be class devs

[mint gate]

Photo no longer triggers blooms, and it's the return of "spreading Rejuvenations" -- I forget what the talent was called

[idle lake]

i have a degree in computer games design so basically im right

[thorn plover]

that means you paid someone

doesnt mean youre any good

[idle lake]

i didnt pay just anyone i paid a prestigious bastion of education

[thorn plover]

i mean no offense by that

but i think degrees are an absolute scam

[mint gate]

They are, yeah

[idle lake]

well my job now is completely unrelated to my degree

[viral pelican]

Hi guys! Is there any good website that reviews M+ and raid logs and tells me if I should have timed cds differently? I am working on that right now, recently I got a low log in the Belo'ren and I don't know why it is so much lower

[thorn plover]

here

[idle lake]

the piece of paper is worthless but i think uni is a valuable experience

[viral pelican]

ok if you are willing, thanks! I am trying to get back into this character as I realized I liked it more than my main:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/T8B6ZmPMtgXRJn1L?fight=34&type=healing&source=1204

[main timber]

Damn, rough day for that institution

[viral pelican]

It is a LOT lower than usual and I think I did like nothing between the 15second and 45 second so I don't know why about it

[idle lake]

whats that supposed to mean 💔

[thorn plover]

well youre 4 healing a fight that could be 2 healed, and its heroic, so this isnt worth much
but your LB uptime could be better
outside of that its not like terrible or anything
dont cast dps spells

you have 3.5 cpm of dps spells

[viral pelican]

Ohhh it is 2 heal??

Should I LB me or the tanker? Or any reason for anyone else?

[thorn plover]

yourself

2 rejuvs, lb on yourself, and swiftmend yourself on cd

always

[idle lake]

i specialised in level design anyway u right i dont have any grounds for systems and mechanics

[viral pelican]

Oh swiftmend is always on me even if the other person is taking damage and I am not, is there a benefit for self-swiftmend in the talents?

[thorn plover]

yes, swiftmend is not for healing, its for buffing other spells

you use swiftmend to extend LB and 2 rejuvs

[viral pelican]

OHHHH thankyou!

That makes sense

I forgot it extended the duration I thought it was just a rejuvenation big buff lol

[thorn plover]

you want to make sure youre always extending 2 rejuvs and lb on yourself (and naturally youll have regrowth)

[viral pelican]

Is the no DPS advice for all of heroic or this specific boss? On dragons and crown for example I am running out of mana so I used Master Shapeshifter, but for specific bosses that are short like this I should swap to Liveliness? Or Embrace of the dream is it ever used?

[thorn plover]

you shouldnt run out of mana ever

[viral pelican]

Am I doing rejuv too much, can you please look at this crown one and tell me mana tips for it?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XmK82DpvM3LYG4r1?fight=2&type=healing&source=2

[thorn plover]

if you are, youre pressing rejuv too much

ya on crown you have wayyyy too many rejuvs to regrowths

[viral pelican]

Ahh darn I love moving all the time

[thorn plover]

aim for 1:1 and eventually more regrowths than rejuvs

[viral pelican]

I wish I could cast regrowth while moving

If I have 12 rejuvs out should I stop and only do regrowths?

[rustic copper]

They could’ve swapped the 2p and 4p

And it would’ve forced 4p

[thorn plover]

ramp up to 12 and down to like 6

[rustic copper]

They just made a decent 2p and a completely worthless 4p

[thorn plover]

can be higher than 12 too

[rustic copper]

Wcyd

[thorn plover]

before convoke/tranq etc

[thorn plover]

that woulda felt a lot better lol

[viral pelican]

Thankyou for your help!

I am going to LB me, swiftmend me on CD, rejuv less regrowth more

[thorn plover]

sounds like a good plan

[viral pelican]

About the no dps advice, drop MS?

And replace with liveliness or embrace of the dream or something else? I thought maybe I can't drop photosynthesis

[thorn plover]

when youre comfortable, yes for sure

livliness or embrace

you cant drop photo

[plain sun]

Quick question, why do we have to put the Lifebloom on ourselves and not on the tank ?

[thorn plover]

big self healing increase through talents = big lifebloom blooms = big apex heal

[plain sun]

"big self healing increase through talents", wich talents ?

[grizzled seal]

What's decent about 2p lol

They should just buff WG

Nature's bounty was a mistake

[thorn plover]

forest walk, bond with nature, plus youre basically guaranteed to have symb blooms on yourself

[hearty coral]

natrural recovery

also is another 4%

[viral pelican]

Ok just checking it is OK to use this? Always always swiftmend me never anyone else? And do I want to only cast lifebloom when it's close to falling off?

(For raid and also M+)

[graceful ermine]

Always recast lifebloom in the pandemic window (4.5 or less remaining)

[spark river]

This forms bad habits

[thorn plover]

you should only have to actually cast lifebloom like once a minute. rest of time its extended with swiftmend
i wouldnt use that for the same reason sola said

lots are tho

[hearty coral]

if you are targeting an enemy you can just normal cast swiftmend and itll cast on yourself

[graceful ermine]

My imo is go ahead and use that. I’m pro making the game easier for yourself and worrying about optimizing future scenarios whenever they actually happen

[spark river]

It makes it easier for now

But later on when the playstyle changes it will be hard to get rid of those habits

[graceful ermine]

In current patch since your swiftmend is literally used 100% of the time on yourself, that’s a good macro to use

[hearty coral]

they said also for m+

which

would make that untrue

[tough portal]

Not true in M+ at all

[viral pelican]

So in my raid build I can use this talent and m+ I can use my mouseover macro?

[graceful ermine]

I assumed they were only interested in raiding

If you do m+, yes you must target with it

[tough portal]

Nothing surprises me anymore regarding reading

[viral pelican]

For wild growth should I also always target me or that one I should manually target (in raid only, inM+ no problem)

[hearty coral]

the target for wild growth only positions its effect

[thorn plover]

here we go again

3x today on wg targeting

lol

so strange. dont talk about it for weeks

[kind star]

So ive imported notes from lorgs, so on every boss ill have to load the note manually or something?

[viral pelican]

Is this illegal or ok in all content? I think in M+ it won't matter or will it?

[thorn plover]

yes click personal notes, click the note you want, click load

[graceful ermine]

It could matter depending on how your team is spread

[thorn plover]

sometimes you want to target enemies with it

[kind star]

Cool thx

[thorn plover]

again, bad habit

[graceful ermine]

A safe bet in m+ is just targeting the boss

[spark river]

alright now tell me how macroing every single spell to yourself is not a bad habit

[viral pelican]

Wait wait you can target enemies with wild growth??

[thorn plover]

yes

[graceful ermine]

Yes

[thorn plover]

it doesnt necessarily go on who you target

[glossy holly]

[thorn plover]

it goes on the lowest people in range of the target

[viral pelican]

OHHH

Thanks!

[thorn plover]

there are weird cases where boss is the right target, i do it all the time on last boss magisters

sometimes dps are out of range of eachother

but theyre always in range of the boss

[kind star]

I was always trying to position myself in the middle of the party and cast on me

[viral pelican]

Is it ok to always target nearest enemy and if not then do @player ? Then is there a macro I can make for this if that's ideal for WG?

[thorn plover]

just mouseover it

and no you dont want to target nearest enemy

on trash that will cause you a lot of grief

[graceful ermine]

Yeah nearest enemy sounds like a bad idea. A lot of situations you will miss the tank or someone with that

[thorn plover]

i dont think you should be macroing anything to yourself, but im not willing to fight people over it

[graceful ermine]

Just kind of have to be generally aware of positioning

When in doubt just target the focus target/boss

[viral pelican]

Ok! I will leave it normal mousoever ❤️

[viral pelican]

You have HUGE improved my healing, tysm!!

[thorn plover]

great job!

[kind star]

Time to farm 7 shard before raid

[viral pelican]

I switched to the Embrace of the Wild dream and the mana didn't even run out for over 4 minutes doing less rejuvenations

[thorn plover]

with practice youll have no problem going 8 mins

[rustic copper]

Compare +25% healing to -10% mana cost

[dapper minnow]

I will probably be able to bonus roll on mythic saladbar tonight. Looking potentially at the Void Suffuser trinket.
Currently have Myth Heart and Allnseer. I probably won't have access to any of the big ticket trinkets on subsequent bosses very soon.

Think it is worth bonus rolling for a void Suffuser? When I use QE live it says heart is better.

Im mostly interested in mythic+

[hasty current]

I guess I missed something, why do we always swiftmend lifebloom? Doesn't that ruin the pandemic window proc?

[thorn plover]

Pandemic window blooms are an incredibly small % of your total blooms

[thorn plover]

Suffuser is definitely not worth bonus rolling

[hasty current]

Wouldn't that make the last point of the apex pretty bad though

[thorn plover]

No. All blooms are "final blooms"

[hasty current]

Oh what. I need a video on this lol

[tough portal]

'-'

[thorn plover]

It's just poor wording on a tooltip don't overthink it

[tough portal]

The refresh bloom is also triggered by other effects

It's that simple

[dapper minnow]

so you think Heart is better than void Suffuser? Just double checking.

[grand herald]

photosynthesis, apex 4, and natty refreshes cause blooms

these all count for apex 2/3

[dapper minnow]

QE live is telling me that an upgraded Hero Litany is better than a myth heart (upgraded).

[fleet jewel]

link the report

[dapper minnow]

would if I was home.

[thorn plover]

Definitely

[thorn plover]

Litany is bait

[dapper minnow]

That trinket seems hard to use. If big damage is incoming don't really want to use 5GCD on DPS.

Unless it procs on convoke?

[thorn plover]

Hotw procs it

In cat

But yes it's a pain to use it to a point where it's even worth using

[dapper minnow]

ok thanks for the sanity check.

[hasty current]

Id only consider it in a very high key where you absolutely have to have another defensive for the group to survive something

[dapper minnow]

Could see it being really good for monks or disc priests

[thorn plover]

No one is using it in high keys on druids

[dapper minnow]

Make the dps use it 😆

[hasty current]

Yet

[thorn plover]

Seems like aug or DPS should use it

[hasty current]

Yea aug would be the main issue

Seems thats what holds them back is surviving some boss mech x amount of times

[main timber]

Funnily enough it sees plenty of play on specs like Resto Shaman that are similarly annoying to proc it on

[urban kestrel]

bro just drop vesper totem

[tough portal]

It isnt really much worse than the random proc trinkets that likely wont be up on a big healing spike either, you can treat it as an enabler to do extra damage in some parts than a trinket that helps you as an extra big spike CD

[solid hemlock]

i was in a pug where a dk kept getting one shot. like how

[main timber]

Yeah it's really just fine

It's also a flat int trinket so you don't need the effect to be insane

[dapper minnow]

Was hoping for something similar to Silk This season 🙁

[urban kestrel]

rip magmaclaw lure

[dapper minnow]

Using it as insurance while dpsing makes sense.

[kind star]

Alright finally got a decent ui setup/nameplate/frame

[hardy veldt]

How many interrupts should tank have in AA?

[topaz nest]

kinda low interrupt dungeon, it's just surges and bolts from the invokers

If kicking the sleep you should be jailed

[formal fjord]

isnt the healer being asleep bad?

[pulsar kettle]

any stop works on sleep.

wasted kick

[formal fjord]

ah right, specifically kicks i get you

[peak charm]

Should we be using NPX bonus rolls in balance or resto?

[formal fjord]

cat

unless u want the trinket or staff

neither are BiS

[bright swift]

staff is bis..?

[formal fjord]

oh, my bad.

balance if you want staff

[bright swift]

there's a useless resto trinket, so roll as balance

[peak charm]

ty

[formal fjord]

i guess i was talking about overall

not dungron

[haughty ibex]

are u asking cuz ur the tank

[formal fjord]

also icy veins is showing final grade for BIS?

not Nexus point -> algethar

[formal fjord]

not sure where the staff from NPX is showing as BiS, but the wep from algethar is showing as BiS

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/restoration-druid-pve-healing-gear-best-in-slot?area=area_2

for dungeons anyway

I guess you could SIM it

[peak charm]

For m+ as long as its 10+ dung were good right?

[pulsar kettle]

they're both haste mastery are they not.

[formal fjord]

Final grade has more mastery from the looks

[haughty ibex]

is a 3 point in mastery difference

[formal fjord]

same haste

technically BiS right

better spent tokens etc

[kind star]

oh right I gotta get hot tracker

[haughty ibex]

are u joking

[formal fjord]

yup, OP asked about BiS. So technically for NPX its a feral roll. No why?

why would I be joking?

[pulsar kettle]

[formal fjord]

3 mastery is 3 mastery, if youre asking about BiS, then its one answer

im not saying that you cant roll

or that its bad

[haughty ibex]

he asked about how to roll on nxp

[formal fjord]

im saying its not BiS

[wary belfry]

all the weps have same # secondaries

[haughty ibex]

yeah fuckkk 3 mastery

[pulsar kettle]

stop using bis lists I beg

Jesus christ

[formal fjord]

why?

[grand herald]

you get 3 haste

[formal fjord]

i mean, why would we not care about mastery?

[grand herald]

you get 3 haste

[haughty ibex]

is 3 points man

not 300

3

[pulsar kettle]

because it starts irrelevant dialogue like this

[formal fjord]

damn

i thought that the haste was lower

thats my bad

[pulsar kettle]

roll the dungeon with the better loot pool + staff

ez

[formal fjord]

corespark has the haste, academy has the mastery

its 6 in one half a dozen in the other

apparently i cant read this morning

[grand herald]

yes, items in the same slot at the same ilvl have the same total secondary stats and primary stat

[peak charm]

Last thing, just got this today is is better to uprade this to 285 with thje voidcores then use mythic crest? aand do we macro this to convoke/ tranq?

[grand herald]

this is true for every single item

[formal fjord]

you can do both

[haughty ibex]

I don’t think u can upgrade an item that isn’t 6/6 myth

or hc

[formal fjord]

^

the tooltip says "use on a fuly upgraded" myth or hero

so you have to upgrade to full with myth

[peak charm]

ah

[formal fjord]

and then use the voidcores

[haughty ibex]

and u shouldn’t macro anything as u want to use when u need the extra mastery = extra healing

but idk I might be wrong about it myb for raid is good to macro it

but also feels troll cuz is 1.30 so nvm def don’t macro it

[formal fjord]

Its better to macro it if you forget you even have it and wont use it otherwise

but if you want to use it properly do what alice said

[gentle charm]

yeah tbh I think its almost always better to macro it

[haughty ibex]

but he’s wasting an entire cast if he macros it to convoke

[formal fjord]

Youre correct

im saying youre right

but that some of us are silly

[haughty ibex]

atp is better to jst macro it on rejuv and every 1.30 mins he gets it

[gentle charm]

sure but if you just forget to use it

[formal fjord]

and dont even use it otherwise

[gentle charm]

you are wasting way more

[formal fjord]

^

[pulsar kettle]

is pressing the button really that hard

[gentle charm]

yes

[formal fjord]

if youre learning yes

or ADHD

lol

[pulsar kettle]

the spec is like 4 buttons

[thorn whale]

Ragebait?

[haughty ibex]

bait set

now we wait

[pulsar kettle]

coggy overload pressing a trinket every 1.5 mins!

[thorn whale]

Show me your logs

[pulsar kettle]

I don't raid so gg

[gentle charm]

show m+ logs so we can see the perfect usage

[pulsar kettle]

pugged myth Chim and parsed a 70 or something smashing my face into the keyboard

[pulsar kettle]

no

[gentle charm]

ur ratio of troll:helpful advice is low

[haughty ibex]

m logs are fake

[pulsar kettle]

Macroing it into convoke and losing 3+ uses over a fight is trolling

[formal fjord]

hes just mad about my BiS list comment and taking it out on you, soz

[gentle charm]

I mean he does actually have good advice a lot

but also a lot of trolling too

[haughty ibex]

how is he taking it out he legit stated the truth

macroing trinket is troll

[formal fjord]

the spec is 4 buttons faceroll comment is a troll

[haughty ibex]

lil troll never hurt anyone

[pulsar kettle]

[formal fjord]

so that wasnt a question then rofl

[pulsar kettle]

the spec is literally 4 rotational buttons + CDs, you press lifebloom like 3 times a fight playing properly

[thorn whale]

You don’t play the game

How would you know

[formal fjord]

rofl

[pulsar kettle]

got me there, real life maxing the last two weeks

ig the spec changed drastically!

[thorn whale]

Yeah this expac has been out for two weeks

[thorn whale]

What Rose said can still be true

If you forget to use it then macroing it is better

[hasty current]

id macro it to convoke and natures swiftness

if you were going to

if your hitting ns you probably need more healing

[haughty ibex]

okay but find a class that it isn’t that today

nice my msg sent after 5 mins i look stupid now

[haughty ibex]

yes but not to convoke then

[hasty current]

if your not going to properly use a different trinket is probly better tho

[thorn whale]

Idk I haven’t done the math of random proccing it vs losing some casts to use it with your convoke

[haughty ibex]

is 1.30 mins

macro it to literally anything else

[haughty ibex]

how is it bad

to random proc?

[hasty current]

you could proc when it doesnt matter

[formal fjord]

❤️ its skill and person dependent, we cant all be 99+ parsers and know the class like the back of our eyeballs.

[gentle charm]

if you are proccing it on convoke/ns you are always getting some value

[hasty current]

yea i agree

unless you catvoke

[haughty ibex]

ye i mean is troll anyways maybe one is 1% less troll than the other

we will never know until someone does the math

[gentle charm]

the idea is that you aren't always going to have a decent passive trinket of the same caliber

[thorn whale]

My point

[hasty current]

thats assuming youd get good use out of it right on cd

which isnt really a thing

[thorn whale]

It kinda is

[haughty ibex]

i also don’t know what content he was talking about

[gentle charm]

man you know the m+ grind is going bad when your hearthstone and your arcantina key are both on CD

[hasty current]

thats some fast bricks

usually if i have a fast brick my team talked about what they were going to do for 5 minutes

[gentle charm]

i'm pugging so its basically go next

[thorn whale]

You usually have trinket for your first convoke+tranq, and then you send trinket again on cd (you’ll have convoke shortly after), and then you have trinket again for tranq

[gentle charm]

seat/skyreach first few pulls are rough

got nexus, seat, skyreach left for 16s and then I'm free

[thorn whale]

Did team keys tonight - +3 score nice

But atleast we are getting closer to the same score

[hasty current]

whats at 16

[gentle charm]

all 16s is 3400

depending on timers

[hasty current]

is that the mount or something

[gentle charm]

yeah

after that it's 1% and i'm not gettin that

[thorn whale]

What was the rewards this tier again?

Glad type mount for 1%

Was there mount for title?

[hasty current]

2 titles i believe

[tall wyvern]

I Don't do any mythic raids should I just use my last 2 ascendants on BIS trinkets dungeons and/or a Heroic Gaze

[haughty ibex]

there is no cap on the voidshards

so kinda use on whatever is best upgrade and then grind more if u need

[hasty current]

i think hes talking about cores

[glossy root]

who do we give symbiosis to in m+

[hasty current]

whoever needs it

in mid dungeons that could be the tank

or a squishy dps

[haughty ibex]

wat do those do

oh the rolls

[rocky lodge]

hey, i need help with general healer stuff on mythic vanguard eg soak positioning etc

[haughty ibex]

but everything is called ascendant this season cba

[rocky lodge]

can anyone help or is there a better place

[kind star]

hmm so I imported notes from lorgs into nsrt personal notes but its not doing anything and the boss note im doing is loaded.

[spark river]

Ask what you arent sure about

[gentle charm]

oh shit bois we got skyreach timed with like 7 deaths

god DAMN that last boss with the solar flares is some big heals

[rocky lodge]

im the flex soaker so i go to a spot where the healer assigned the soak doesn’t have the soak, and im being told i should pre position and then move later to readjust. what im currently doing is sitting in the middle and going to where there is a gap

but they’re saying that’s leading to the soaks being too close together?

it’s not even our main issue but nevertheless, what is the best way as a flex soaker to position soak?

[spark river]

There is no solution here rather than getting fast to your assigned group

You can use tiger dash or you can wild charge to a person from that group

Or a priest can grip you

Or an evoker can rescue you

[rocky lodge]

yeah okay that makes sense

[spark river]

Soaks being too close is a mistake of the other soakers

As they dont have to move

This really shouldnt be an issue, soaks are pretty straightforward

[rocky lodge]

thank you i didn’t think the soaks were even the problem but im being told they are because of my positioning :,))

this is our positioning on the left and it looks like mine is fine

[spark river]

Yeah you should be making a square

That kinda isnt a square lol

[rocky lodge]

bit of a rhombus really

thank you for your help!!

[wicked forum]

@rustic copper i go back to raiding ?

[kind star]

oh lol I had to put my name when importing from lorgs derp

[rustic copper]

crit mastery

you're bloqued

[kind star]

having fun in our lu'ra heroic prog atm... D:

[gentle charm]

@tough portal hello sir I'd like to thank you for helping me in m+

we did it

and everyone here really

[tough portal]

Nope not them, all me

No problem mate

Grats tho that's really nice

Happy for you

[gentle charm]

I will always abide by the resto druid advice

'simply press regrowth'

[kind star]

alright we got to p3 of lu'ra...

[proven phoenix]

Gz

[proven phoenix]

Np

[kind star]

so surely we get it down now

we losing too many people in the previous phase

[glossy holly]

i do not want to jinx

[kind star]

nvm back to wiping p1, imagine taking glaives to the dome

[glossy holly]

yeah......i saw the exact same thing with liquid progress

imagine p1 causing wipes after 200 attempts

[kind star]

but dis is only heroic 🙁 sadge

at least I be pumpin'

[gentle charm]

listen man

once you get past p1

you will kill boss

[kind star]

we decided not to do full clear and prog lu'ra heroic all night and move on to mythic next week

[gentle charm]

we did the cheese 2 crystal strat for our heroic kill and it worked pretty good

[junior vigil]

heyo fellow druids i has question.. how can i get better at healing? and why are my numbers so diffrent in keys v raids. i can hit 140k+ hps in keys no prob but in mythic voidspire im hardly push 80k

[glossy holly]

they should be switching places really

i only hit 100k hps if im healing very intensely in big pull

[junior vigil]

exactly thats why im confused lol

[gentle charm]

also depends on how many and the quality of your other healers

if you have an allstar heal team your parses are going to be shit

[glossy holly]

in raids, its really about using ur heal cd's and spread 12 rej's then spam rg until abundance drops to 6

[junior vigil]

i go oom so fast spamming rej tho?

[glossy holly]

u can utilize swiftmends proc to spread rejs too u know

convokes also spread rejuvenations no?

[proven phoenix]

I think you kinda need context for hps numbers a bit

80k, 100k, 140k are all not particularly high hps

as long as you keep like the core gameplay loop you will do well

[proven phoenix]

you should look at logs or other povs to see how they use rejuvs vs regrowths

the simplest answer is they are just 1:1 a lot of the time

equal number of regrowths and rejuvs, the most regrowths you use the more mana you will save

[glossy holly]

u should also check out if u are casting way too many rej casts compared to regrowths in logs

LB uptime etc

[junior vigil]

ty

[wispy snow]

its that time again... any tips for mythic Beloren? (also thanks to the responders... usually get some great tips from asking)

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-bird-funny-song-gif-4392525

[kind star]

Surely after break we kill

Dying to crystal during the beam soak

[wispy snow]

🕊️

[thorn plover]

Get the boss HP to 0 before your raid dies
Hope that helps

[wispy snow]

huge strat!!

[kind star]

I should tell that to my raid too good tip

[fervent mica]

you are the tankiest person in the raid, outside of actual tanks... gobble them balls

smile

[bright swift]

if you are 4 healing (which you should), you should really look to soak a fuck ton of balls of your color

especially second p1

[wispy snow]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-right-back-at-ya-kirby-anime-kirby-eating-a-watermelon-gif-17530449855967863291

[bright swift]

it's one of the main reasons you wipe

[wispy snow]

i'm ready to gobble

[bright swift]

lb on yourself, bear form

run through 5 orbs

you don't die

[fervent mica]

i was bored during a wipe and ran down the entire line without dying. lol

[wispy snow]

lol

first pull inc i'm gonna eat em all

[gentle charm]

tiger dash is kinda goated there right

[fervent mica]

as long as you aren't getting 1 shot by multiple at once... you will heal it

[fervent mica]

travel form + wild charge is bae

[bright swift]

that's dangerous

You kinda just run through in bear

and press frenzied as you go

this is void orbs today on our kill

I soaked as many as tank

[mystic pasture]

Any thoughts L'ura on healing p1 crystals on druid? We have hpal/pres/holy/rdruid, my understanding of logs is that our hpal should be popping them (he has innervate), but is there anything i can do besides just spam regrowth on them to be useful? we're just a little bit slow

[rustic copper]

ppl 4 healing now?

[bright swift]

yes, it's very easy

we had 14 secs left on egg reborn lol

with 4 healers

[rustic copper]

[rustic copper]

2 rejuv 1, regrowth all 3 once, ns regrowth the one with 2 rejuvs

that is like minimum crystal healing

and assign crystals

your hpal should not be full blasting the one you rejuv

[radiant narwhal]

i do lifebloom > 2 x regrowth (non lb target) > wild growth > swiftmend > NS regrowth spam

how does that sound

[mystic pasture]

appreciated; this is basically what im doing, i think some of our healers are trying to use AoE healing and that's where we slow :/

[rustic copper]

rejuv too

that is like max commit

[radiant narwhal]

i feel like my healing overall on that fight is ass

crystals and raid healing

[rustic copper]

lock in we're so good on that fight

[radiant narwhal]

niko what am I doing wrong

[tranquil jacinth]

has anyone noticed symbiotic relationship falling off their target during raids?

[radiant narwhal]

I think I just have too much difference between pulls

[radiant narwhal]

its only an hour right

crystal healing over the course of 41 wipes

raid healing on same amount of wipes typically between p1 and mid p2

[marsh prism]

i think he literally pots at start

[tranquil jacinth]

ive been having to reapply every pull

[marsh prism]

you dont have to any more

unless they are like. clicking the buff off rofl

[tranquil jacinth]

weird. maybe it's just a visual bug. i dont see it on them after we rez

[rustic copper]

press better spells

[radiant narwhal]

I'm cured

[marsh prism]

are you guys genuinely lacking hps

lemme see

[kind star]

now they adding a 5th healer

defo wiping due to failing mechanics

[rustic copper]

ignore the disc

[marsh prism]

no im not ignoring the fucking disc you idiot

[radiant narwhal]

no we're cranking but im just low

[marsh prism]

you're not.

stop listening to niko

[radiant narwhal]

okay wahoo

[rustic copper]

you should be top healing on lura

[radiant narwhal]

actually I refreshed that lifebloom ourside of pandemic window 3-4 times

thats probably why

[rustic copper]

it is not

[marsh prism]

youre literally not done the fight stop worrying about who is top

you did top on your best pull regardless

[radiant narwhal]

im more worried about if my stuff is green cause im doing stuff wrong

[marsh prism]

if you are finding crystal healing is still inconsistent (i doubt it) you could consider rh

[radiant narwhal]

less about being on top

[marsh prism]

we are at world rank like 50 or something

stop worrying about the colour

[radiant narwhal]

wahoo

[marsh prism]

also like hps is never the prog point of this boss so you are only going to continue getting better with practice while everyone else figures out how to drop and pickup their crystal

niko posting "ignore the buyer" ass images

[rustic copper]

it was their first time

then they got replaced

[rustic copper]

worry about pressing regrowth

[radiant narwhal]

[marsh prism]

omg wait

i have to fucking clip something from last night thanks for reminding me

[rustic copper]

yeah

start worrying buddy

[radiant narwhal]

MORE REGROWTH REQUIRED

[kind star]

oh well we didnt get it -.-

closest was 17% :/

[marsh prism]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2772311705

i love glaives

why is spatial private btw

[radiant narwhal]

thats fucking hilarious hahaha

through the raid frames is tough

[kind star]

Im proud tho only one glaive to the dome all night cant say the same for our hpal

[wind ermine]

Legit just happened to me like 5 times

Always through the damn frames

[marsh prism]

i have an even better one

[bright swift]

I think you just have to turn your screen

[marsh prism]

that i just found

yeah

[bright swift]

don't corner yourself

[marsh prism]

i started doing that more

[marsh prism]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2772322388

no comment regarding this tbqh

[bright swift]

that happens to the best of us

[marsh prism]

i was just like yeah while im here on twitch i guess i should clip our best pull

and i always rewatch before posting to the raid channel to make sure i dont do something crazy fucking stupid

and i said out loud "oh my god."

[bright swift]

also literally anyone else in the raid is dead there lol

(except tanks)

[marsh prism]

no bark just whi and living in the moment it's crazy

ok nvm this boss is fun

[wind ermine]

Even worse I have a crystal

[marsh prism]

damn crystal and crohns they gotta give you a break

[wind ermine]

Ikr?

https://tenor.com/view/whngifmkr-gif-13201799122307349153

[radiant narwhal]

this is just optimised padding tbh

[slender gust]

One of the guilds I am raiding with now is currently working on H Windchime. I got AotC w/ a different guild, but the healer roster was stronger so I had to do less heavy lifting and kinda just hit buttons. But this group, I am one of if not the strongest healer, and I am struggling to make good use of my CDs. Anyone have any general advice for that fight? I have no idea what our kill time is gonna be b/c we're still progging P1, but one of my guildies sent me a thing from Archon that scrapes logs, and most of the ones Archon showed were basically sending Convoke at 0:00 and on CD, and then sending Tranq to extend everything from your convoke at 1:00, and then again on CDish
Which felt fairly reasonable, but I still felt like some of my convokes were just going into nothing.

[wind ermine]

Skip the second set of crystals

[rustic copper]

you might not have enough dmg for that

[wind ermine]

Fair

[proven phoenix]

the fight just does nothing in p1

[wind ermine]

If you do though its way easier lmao

[proven phoenix]

the only relevant healing on heroic is intermission and p2

[rustic copper]

brother

tranq 1:00

people are doing that?

[proven phoenix]

you tranq on pull always

[rustic copper]

[proven phoenix]

idk who would tranq at 1:00

unironically send everything on cd because there is nothing on that fight (on heroic) that warrants holding or saving

[slender gust]

https://www.archon.gg/wow/builds/restoration/druid/raid/rotation/heroic/midnight-falls

[rustic copper]

archon

I'm not clicking suspicious links

[slender gust]

Convoke and then Tranq immediately off rip to extend it all or just tranq? I feel like there's not that much damage off the rip. Isn't all of that going into full healthbars low key?

That said, the 1:00 Tranq might be for trying to snipe more healing on the first set of Crystals, and then it comes up right in time for the first lazer soaks on P2, so I didn't hate it when I tried it, but it did feel a little bit odd

We were getting turbo blasted by the lazer soaks. Not sure if it's a very small group size scaling thing or not, but I hit Convoke+Tranq and it felt completely worthless and we just died anyway

[proven phoenix]

was everyone soaking?

[slender gust]

I believe so

Only thing I can think of is maybe we dropped crystals too early

[proven phoenix]

well check the log

but if everyone is soaking you shouldnt take much damage at all

[slender gust]

Yeah I know. I've killed it before, and it felt very different

But that group had an even 20, and we had 14, so splitting soaks was a little weird

I'm gonna be diving into logs for sure to try and sort this out, but it was a little o.0

[faint lynx]

guys i feel like i'm going crazy...what are the purple circles that spawn on the ground on multiple boss fights and just silence you? its not like a boss specific mechanic

[analog gulch]

isnt that a combat potion effect?

its this i think: https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1230860/draught-of-rampant-abandon

[thorn plover]

🤣

[rustic copper]

you need to be smart about splitting the soaks

it's a raid leader check

you need use crystals to put people in other soaks to even out the soaks

or you will have 2 in the tank soak and 6 in the ranged dps soak

[wheat grove]

40% haste and 40% mastery or 43% haste and 37% mastery, in raid

[slender gust]

Sim it in QE Live

[thorn plover]

Haste in raid

[pastel dragon]

so without flask or raid buffs im at 38% haste 34% mastery, should i consider mastery flask over haste or stick with haste?

[cobalt thorn]

Maybe this has been talked about a lot here, but are there known bugs with PotAD? I feel like I often don't get as many rejuvs as I expect, and it seems like if I queue a Swiftmend after Regrowth it spends the SotF on the Regrowth

[hearty coral]

yes

its a thing

and yes its talked about in here a lot

its annoying

gotta play around it

or make sure to leave a teeny gap between the presses

[cobalt thorn]

Are those two the same thing? Are there separate issues where I don't get as many rejuvs as I should or am I just always burning them on queued RG

[subtle cobalt]

is it possible you're not taking into account the 20 yard range? If you fire one off at a range in whoop-whoop, no one else will get the others

[storm portal]

Hi guys, on plus i have some mana issue. Outside of spread rj with SM, when u need to refresh rj on targets? Its good to keep 2 stack of rj per player?

[indigo flume]

are boe boots even worth buying?

[storm portal]

Also is good to sm on lb target?

[indigo flume]

u should always sw lb target if you have verdant infusion

[placid abyss]

Hey guys! I'm really struggling with balancing my abundance stacks - pre-midnight I used a weakaura that showed the stacks almost exactly the same as CDM does now, but the icon was shaded red under 8 stacks. Is there an addon now that has similar functionality? I miss being able to see at a glance with just the colour rather than having to check the stack number.

[rustic copper]

Are you poor?

[marsh prism]

hottracker

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/rejuvtracker

[indigo flume]

i bought hero ones

[rustic copper]

poor

[placid abyss]

Thank you for saving my life

[marsh prism]

no problem. all me

tell your friends

[indigo flume]

sorry i started playing in midnight i dont have 20 years experience...

[fervent path]

rate my tmog