#resto

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thorn plover
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is that worth 2m gold to you

lament river
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They sell for 1,2

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But still

silk ice
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1.2 mil lasts past this tier, the gear does not

thorn plover
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season over, seems not worth

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sell em

distant birch
tough portal
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I'd sell 11 out of 10 times

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For sure

silk ice
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All that haste but

lament river
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I Can see alot of druids using the trinket from saladar with haste is it worth to take ? I mean isnt heart of Wind better ?

main timber
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Depends how low your raid is on average

quartz briar
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This wasn't even a reply to me but you are an amazing human being thank you 😭

thorn plover
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hero drums sims higher than saladar trinket for me

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lmao

main timber
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You can make saladar trinket rank basically anywhere but we did some log analysis on it and outside of L'ura average raid health looked very grim for it

thorn plover
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sounds right

tough portal
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I hate that high variance type of trinket

thorn plover
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53% uptime on my paladins kill, how do i see how much int i benefited

abstract tulip
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oh you can only upgrade weapons and trinkets

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so thats not as fancy as i thought. i thought youd upgrade all the things

main timber
thorn plover
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ah ok

main timber
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Enter it into WoWA and see if it pops up

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It might

thorn plover
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ill do some fancy query in logs

main timber
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You can't query this

thorn plover
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i cant just see my overall int level and line it up with the buff?

main timber
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I don't think logs can do that?

thorn plover
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probably right

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wow my convoke low rolled on paladins

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2 tranq / 7 convokes

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ah the trinket module is in wowa

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nice

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ya it sucks

main timber
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Yeah 94% is like

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C-tier

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Enter it into QE Live in the settings panel

thorn plover
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boutta send upgrade thing on my hero drums to make it 285

rustic copper
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Can we get real

thorn plover
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drums unupgraded is .17% better

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lmao

main timber
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If you can get avg health around 80 it gets good

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Which some of these late farm logs might be able to achieve

thorn plover
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upgraded to 285 its .21%

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over 298 suffuser

distant birch
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Im playing stare+gaze on resto

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Its pretty good i think, but if i miss the 1:30 window to for 2nd use its gg

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Wont come back for tranq

thorn plover
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even across my crown pulls tonight it was 92%

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terrible

distant birch
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Man i hope we stop 4 healing crown soon

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Turbo overhealing that trash boss

thorn plover
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i hope we kill crown next week

woven mango
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Same fr

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got to 16% this week Prayge

thorn plover
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we got to 21% tonight, 1st real night on it

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1 more good night it dies

woven mango
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On that twin shit

abstract tulip
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i got the nexus chest from bonus roll but QE still says crafted is better. prob bc the embleishment

main timber
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Ye gotta move the embellish to another slot

abstract tulip
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if i take the chest away, ill just have the belt left. although i could craft a cloak but im capped on crests for the week...

distant birch
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Play crafted for now and craft cloak next week then

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I had to wait until this week to craft my cloak because i had 70 crests left lol

abstract tulip
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ill plan for that. i still have heroic cloak i cant believe i havnt found any mythic ones not even bad stat ones

strange wren
gentle sky
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what dungeon do we bonus roll? as fresh 90 couldnt find it in pins/previous messages are cluttered

abstract tulip
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nexus is a good one

distant birch
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Yeah nexus would be most recommended i think

abstract tulip
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and wind run spire for heart of wind trinket

distant birch
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Very good staff, good ring, bis off piece chest, some tier items

gentle sky
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ty ❤️

abstract tulip
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just know nexus can be hard to heal if interrupts are missed and tank/dps pull choaticlly. but i guess that could be true for any dungeon lol

gentle sky
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it will for sure be harder than spamming spinning crane kick xd

rocky lodge
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we craft cloak for arcanoweave right?

versed stone
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depends on your other gear

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there is no 1 correct blueprint for every resto druid for gearing

formal path
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LURA IS DEAD

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WOOOO

marsh prism
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wahoo wahoo

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what wr we up to

formal path
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i'm not sure

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has to be 50 something rightr?

distant birch
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Grats homie

formal path
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not a single death from anyone on the kill either which is...impressive

slender gust
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Are all of the Jewelry embellishments that bad that QE doesn't even let you sim them or am I missing something? I wanted to check if going down 1 Arcanoweave lining for a Jewelry embellishment like Pango Charm was worth it given that there's only 2 slots I can't guaranteed get a great M track item for, one of them being neck, b/c I don't see myself killing M Alleria, let alone L'ura

livid hearth
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people saying fastest way to farm the shards are delves and raid

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in my opinion delve takes long and boring and raid takes ages to trash and wait for others, just spamming 10+s is fun and fast right?

marsh prism
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but you can also just craft a neck without an embellishment

tough portal
vocal sage
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Voidshards still broken? I did a M+ and no Voidshard

slender gust
# marsh prism but you can also just craft a neck without an embellishment

I know you can, but I wasn't sure if having the extra ilvl from having myth belt/boots/bracers would outweigh having the arcanoweave lining. It didn't seem to without a Pango charm or Bandolier in the equation, but I was curious how much those did/if it actually moved the needle when you decide to split hairs

marsh prism
vocal sage
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t'was a 12

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Only 3/5 members got one

marsh prism
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did you complete the quest to allow them to drop

vocal sage
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Yeah I already upgraded my weapon

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Unless it's only one per week?

marsh prism
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nop

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bag full? idk

tough portal
marsh prism
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I just did 4 keys and got them all

tough portal
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But like idk you dont need permission to do M+ lol

livid hearth
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and its somethin i have to do anyway

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and its not faster or more fun than spamming 10s imo

tough portal
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Sure

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You need to kill the bosses for it to drop

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So if you arent killing the bosses then it isnt farming anything

marsh prism
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with a guild or community group raid is def fastest but there's some gremlins in party finder

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you do have to key for vault anyway

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apparently 2 nightmare preys are good value for 2 of them

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I am going to get roped into those in a lil bit

tough portal
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xdd unless you did the 2 nightmare preys to see if it dropped any on tuesday already

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Fucking rats at blizzard man

marsh prism
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i literally forgot you had to hold dragons apart on heroic and thank god I didn't say anything but I was so annoyed before I was told otherwise

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I will def be waiting for guildies to make a group for it like tmrw or smth

livid hearth
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i would rank how i would wanna farm it as:

  1. Nightmare preys (rly fast and easy but not as fun as 10s tho but rly fast)
  2. 10+s (easy smooth and fun)
  3. T11 delves (Really boring and slow because mobs have huge hp even tho you take no damage)
  4. Raids (You have to do it anyway so there is no point in prioritizing it and takes 3hours because u prog with your raid gruop after killing previous bosses)
marsh prism
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mental illness

marsh prism
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I live in a different world than everyone else that plays this game man

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I just tried a nightmare prey by myself and I died to one of the stupid affixes like 3min in and I am now under a blanket chilling instead

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I wait for the nance officer to taxi me

marsh prism
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who is that content for. definitely not me

mystic crater
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that's actually pretty impressive @marsh prism

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thank you

urban bone
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Ok the first time that dot hits you while flying around and you’re not expecting it, it wasted me too, only once tho…

trail crown
fervent mica
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val as healer means i just pull the whole zone and owl aoe <_<

urban bone
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I been just going as guardian and having her dps, seemed ok but maybe I should try balance

fervent mica
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tank val just dies /-:

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if you have the gear for it, guardian is probably the best

trail crown
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Just got my first random dawnlight manaflux, the flood is about to begin

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Im wondering if I should hold on to it to favor the loot gods

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Maybe they need a little company and spending it and being on 0/8 scares other dawnlight's from dropping as well

fervent mica
trail crown
fervent mica
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i have tried it. and everything else. lol

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yeah

trail crown
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Maybe Im just a bad owl and don't know how to leverage the healer

fervent mica
trail crown
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But honestly once I swapped to her as tank it was so easy

fervent mica
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have done many diggy diggy holes

distant birch
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I used to do resto with dps valerian

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Sometimes she just goes crazy and does 300k dps on every pull

trail crown
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Small question, which gems are actually bis for us. Wowhead lists Flawless Quick Amethyst as bis in the summary at the top, but mentions Flawless Masterful Peridot in the text below it.

golden siren
trail crown
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Ah right Im not used to the tool, I should start working with it

magic kernel
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Upgrade which weapon is the most optimize ?

  1. 2hand 285 crafted weapon with embellishment
  2. 1hand 289 Mythic weapon + a crafted offhand with embellishment
  3. 2hand 289 mythic weapon with no embellishment.
trail crown
marsh prism
trail crown
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I just rush through the objectives and pull as much as I can

stable verge
trail crown
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wtf this is insane

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Im getting 2 back-to-back

marsh prism
magic kernel
urban kestrel
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possibly another dumb question, but how important is time spiral in p3 of lura?

stable verge
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Full bis is 289 weapon, not a crafted one

urban kestrel
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cause like, me being able to hit the whole room in intermission is so sick and I'm loving paradox, but I dont want to fuck anyone over

marsh prism
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im def going to have both crafted and beloren mh/oh upgraded before im done grinding them out

magic kernel
# stable verge No

what about this? if embellishment is on offhand does it worth more than 4ilvl on a offhand? i am so confuse which is actual best for us.
1hand 289 Mythic weapon + a crafted offhand with embellishment
2hand 289 mythic weapon with no embellishment.

spark river
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just do a myth 2hander and dont think too much about it

marsh prism
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my answer just sucks i guess

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fuck me then

stable verge
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ahahahaha

marsh prism
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at least i caught fish

stable verge
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Or pieces where secondary are shit because nothing better is available

gentle nova
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ITS ME

thorn whale
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Hi team still having nightmares from last night

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P4 pull everyone alive 2 cr’s

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Rogue nukes the entire team

spark river
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thats a core memory unlocked

tired gale
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core memory is wipe at 3k HP

thorn whale
urban kestrel
# marsh prism no clue. i hope it helps

well its more of was just trying to help guild decide if we let me do 500k+ hps hitting the whole raid because that range extension is broken in intermission or if we get 2 potentially useful spirals

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idk what would even be a good spiral in p1, evoker is a crystal holde4r so i guess he could just throw it on any bad memory game

distant birch
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Just play 1 spiral 1 spatial

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Spatial is insane for resto in intermission and also lets u rez in p4 because of extra range

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Which can save u a 1% wipe

thorn whale
distant birch
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Yeah you can tripel grip with spiral

waxen ingot
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Guys quick question

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Where to roll if i already have bis trinkets + weapon + 1 ring + all 4p mythic

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still nexus for 2nd ring?

magic kernel
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my guild say no spiral for tranq during intermission cause they want spatial😢

waxen ingot
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and than rest on lura mythic

magic kernel
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lura

waxen ingot
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Just wait for the laser to show

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anywhere

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and than you have time to full tranq

magic kernel
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yup that's what i gonna do

indigo flume
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which neck you guys think is better? with haste one my stats are 1280 haste and 1012 mastery without flask food etc. With mastery one its 1105 haste and 1209 mastery

indigo flume
marsh prism
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dont glorp them be real

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live for chim then luraa

indigo flume
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ye diff is minor

marsh prism
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id haste no question

indigo flume
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so ill use mastery one until i get locus trinket

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that give mastery

fervent mica
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game feel better when haste number higher

marsh prism
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what this one

fervent mica
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YEP

indigo flume
marsh prism
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first vault after alleria

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she couldnt wait for me to have it

indigo flume
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im only 3/9 myth so i cant even get it

fervent mica
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i bonus rolled it on first alleria kill

spark river
marsh prism
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tune in again we'll see

indigo flume
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this is what i have...

marsh prism
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NO fucking clue what posessed everyone that night

fervent mica
spark river
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i hit 288 ilvl real chilling right now

fervent mica
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only person in my raid that doesn't have a myth gaze

marsh prism
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im about to get it

fervent mica
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i upgraded my hero gaze

indigo flume
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well i spent all my bonus rolls on nexus

marsh prism
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unless i get absolutely fucked by the non table reset or some shit

indigo flume
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last possible item on nexus was weapon for me

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next week i gotta pray for the 25% mythic gaze bonus roll

fervent mica
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i don't know if i even bonus roll for it anymore...

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its defaulted to me if one drops

indigo flume
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lol

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hmm that kinda look good

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maybe ill use haste one

marsh prism
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i would

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and im nance

fervent mica
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mooaaaar

winged bough
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What are the caps and soft caps for resto?

fervent mica
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no such thing

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listen to the robot

indigo flume
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ill test both in raid later

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and see how it feels

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maybe ill become haste fanatic

spark river
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You take as much haste as you can get

winged bough
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And same for mastery?

fervent mica
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yup. if you could get haste/mast on every piece you would wear that

indigo flume
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what about set pieces

mystic crater
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If you could

fervent mica
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thats the if

indigo flume
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i guess its not worth to drop 4 set?

storm portal
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Hi guys Wow analizer is a good place to watch if healing is good in mplus?

fervent mica
versed stone
indigo flume
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lol

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my only non haste mastery item are boots(not counting set items)

fleet jewel
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u can drop 4pc bonus if you get shoulders

spark river
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And you can do it

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You play haste mastery shoulders and lower your wg cpm

indigo flume
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whats the healing diff without 4 set?

solid hemlock
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What other healers are people playing? Been doing rdruid and prevoker this season but thinking of trying something other than prevoker next season.

spark river
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Considering you like those 2 classes I would suggest disc

wise magnet
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do this is good? Mastery higher than haste? DeadGe (unbuffed)

fleet jewel
versed stone
indigo flume
fleet jewel
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u can check wowanalyzer for what 4pc is currently saving u

wise magnet
fleet jewel
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(if anything)

indigo flume
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i guess im good with my 4 set

versed stone
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yes sure drop your 10% mana reduction on wg for 60 haste

indigo flume
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1447 haste 1012 mastery with flask not a tragic result

versed stone
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sounds terrific

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you guys should play more and think less

winged bough
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And for M+ wildstalker is more powerfull right?

indigo flume
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when i finally get my locus at the end of season it will be 1100 mastery!!!

spark river
fleet jewel
spark river
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no one is forcing you to do that

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Im just telling you that there is a playstyle and an angle where you can do that

versed stone
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I don't think you understand what that word means but ok :)

indigo flume
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this feels like cheating ngl

marsh prism
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it's uppy g'd

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lura time

spark river
indigo flume
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i forgor...

indigo flume
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what does that mean

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im not dropping 4 piece i love wg!!!

fleet jewel
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ur 4pc saved u 0s and 8k mana

versed stone
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in the shortest fight possible

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on deep farm

violet adder
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Does anyone have any tips/tricks/methods they use to maintain their 12 rejuvs? I find myself falling behind on maintaining 12

fleet jewel
versed stone
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yea genius you would

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that's how time works

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:)

indigo flume
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convoke also help a bit

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and tranq with flourish extend them

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swiftmend + reju also

fleet jewel
indigo flume
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95% of times i use swiftmend with reju

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sometimes when few people low hp i use with nature swift + regrowth

spark river
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confidently wrong

versed stone
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ok I don't press wg more on in 3 minutes than I do in 1 minute

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for example, to make it simple for you :)

spark river
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Link a full log

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7min fight

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Lets see how much you press it

versed stone
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use your brain, would I press wg more times in a longer fight or not

spark river
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No

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Give me logs

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Whats wrong

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And the answer is you wouldnt

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Because you oom

versed stone
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how do I ignore ppl in this app so it doesn't spit notifications

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any1 knows?

spark river
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good comms

fleet jewel
versed stone
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I personally think you are both batshit crazy

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but that's beside the point

fleet jewel
kind star
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Gooood morning, raid day for me today need 7 more shard before it

versed stone
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grab your 60 haste and drop your 4pc all you want

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surely that gives you... something

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like 0.00001% throughput? :)

spark river
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Its ok buddy

fleet jewel
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what does 4pc give u cheeky

spark river
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You re fighting with yourself at this point

indigo flume
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i got 27 wg in 6:25 min fight

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mythic chim

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idk if thats good or no

spark river
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cpm matters

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total count is worthless

indigo flume
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4.2

spark river
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Yeah thats fine

indigo flume
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i try not to send it on cd

spark river
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You wg more if your mana allows it

indigo flume
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because my mana hurt

spark river
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Thats pretty much it

violet adder
indigo flume
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im still fighting my habbit of over rejuving

violet adder
indigo flume
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but everyday i get better

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if i have to run a lot do i just spam reju even at 12 stacks or do i try to stop and cast some rg?

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i never know what to do lol

spark river
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Depends on the damage

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There are some situations where i go 15+ rejuvs before regrowthing

indigo flume
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i see alright

spark river
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Try for now to get rid of the bad habits and to hit that regrowth to rejuv ratio

indigo flume
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technically i should never run out of mana right?

spark river
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If you play properly you should be fine for like 7-8 minutes

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Which is most fights

indigo flume
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yeah yesterday i totally did panic mode on mythic chim haha

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happends

marsh prism
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literally see your rejuv count

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helps a ton

indigo flume
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i use blizz one with abundance stacks

marsh prism
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naw

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you wanna see actual rejuv count

indigo flume
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oh

kind star
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hmmmm

spark river
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Yeah you need hot tracker

indigo flume
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this right?

spark river
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Yes

indigo flume
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okay will download it

spark river
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You ll see how your hps shoots up when you get the habit of regrowthing more

indigo flume
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also where is "best" place for icon to be?

kind star
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I dont get the use, i might be dumb.

spark river
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You want to know when your rejuvs are going to fall off

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And how big your ramps are

indigo flume
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so countdown show first to expire right?

spark river
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Yeah

marsh prism
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yeah

kind star
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aaah gotcha

indigo flume
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damn thats actually cool

marsh prism
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if you want to look at my stream right now you will see it

indigo flume
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i never know where my rejuvs are gonna poof

marsh prism
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it is more about knowing how many beyond 12 you have really

kind star
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hows lu'ra prog how far you guys get now?

marsh prism
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we need to get back to inter tn

grizzled seal
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If you haven't killed Lura then you are wiping in p1

marsh prism
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yep

kind star
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surely we kill it on heroic in my casual guild today

grizzled seal
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We had 300 pulls and smth like 200+ out of those were in p1

kind star
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p1 was a nightmare with RL calling diamond a prism garf

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Need to check how ppl see the symbols/order, is that like nsrt?

marsh prism
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nsrt macros

marsh prism
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i cant even fucking do anything

grizzled seal
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To cheer you up

kind star
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ill have to find that macro then

grizzled seal
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You need to replace icons for NSRT to work

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It's in the addon itself

kind star
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ah alright so I found the world first post on wowhead talking about it

grizzled seal
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Just read the instructions inside the addon

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It's very simple

kind star
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sweet thanks, will share with my guild.

zealous scarab
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I have to carry a crystal in p1, I’m scared

kind star
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so is the hot tracker the thing in the middle? tells abundance and time remaining on rejuvs next to it?

marsh prism
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is spatial private

marsh prism
kind star
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gonna lock in and blast with all that tonight and proper frames garf

kind star
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alright 12 resil done ezpz, now we work on 14s.

distant birch
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Ggez

kind star
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ive been taking my time way too much slowly progressing keys

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when do they really start getting 'hard' would yall say?

oak garnet
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You start getting oneshot by shit around 17s 18s

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That's meant to be avoidable

thorn whale
marsh prism
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i hate glaives

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no point to them

kind star
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yeah true that

oak garnet
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I cruised to resil 17. Resil 18 took me a little time. Resil 19 still working on. I pug 95%

thorn whale
marsh prism
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not good

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reconsider

thorn whale
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Everything except the glaives is good about that fight

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They’re a shame

kind star
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plus it can always be different depending on wether your group plays with monitor on or off garf

oak garnet
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Do you guys know if each pota regrowth will proc nb if they already have rg on them

kind star
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I had to remove my defensive tracker because I was dying inside and it was abit janky didnt like it

oak garnet
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Or just the initial rg

marsh prism
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😭

thorn whale
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It’s a good fight:/

distant birch
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Glaives are good

kind star
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I love glaives!

thorn whale
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Wtf is dissonance

kind star
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messing up runes

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was our first time on lu'ra garf

marsh prism
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it's insane

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and I"M a fucking known and famous contrarian

kind star
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I do hope we just kill it and go do more bosses on mythic tho

livid hearth
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i skip one expansion and they make 3 more timewakling in war within?

thorn plover
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Gm

livid hearth
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mornign

spark river
kind star
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gooood mornin'

livid hearth
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idk why i mentioned u

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i just wrote in general

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mb hahaha

marsh prism
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it is ok i just do not play the game for that reason .

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i play this game to press reck pot and blast intermission healing

fervent mica
kind star
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🔥

marsh prism
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i just did it cleanly for the first time until someone else did some crystal shenanigans and nuked it (it's fine it's prog)

crystal kettle
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would you guys go crown ribbon hc over myth legs/head from vault?

fervent mica
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it depends on your gear... but i don't think theres any hero item i would take from vault with bonus rolls existing

kind star
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I wouldnt unless you really got terrible trinkets

crystal kettle
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okay thanks, will go myth piece

marsh prism
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im having fun now

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passion pit carrying tbqh

kind star
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those damn glaives been haunting me since last week

fervent mica
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it could be worse... they pronounce them glives in my guild.

lethal kayak
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Is there a difference between using ascendant voidcore on crafted weapon or myth weapon?

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Like in ilvl?

fervent mica
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yeah

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295 vs 298

lethal kayak
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And can we drop them in unlimited amount?

kind star
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yes

lethal kayak
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Like i can use it on crafted weapon, and than use it on myth once i have one

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Ok thanks ^^

kind star
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still need like 6 of those before my raid tonight D:

fervent mica
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have finished 2 of my characters...

solid hemlock
kind star
solid hemlock
kind star
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delves just dont feel all that fast, also playing resto there. Was doing some 12s last night for em.

solid hemlock
kind star
solid hemlock
kind star
solid hemlock
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End of t11 delve. Random stuff but there can be weapons

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I’m maxed journey mind you

kind star
#

oh that guy just got level 5 delve knowledge recently

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levels up sooooo slowly

fervent mica
#

you have to be 9 for hero gear

kind star
#

thought this system would be somewhat nice for alt kinda dog since it takes forever to level

solid hemlock
#

ahh yeah sorry. I do delves if I have video calls and stuff since it's kind of chill and if I get interrupted it's fine... so had maxed journey and valeera for a while now

kind star
#

I usually just farm the bountiful delves on a fresh toon and go do other content instead

grizzled seal
#

Prey is only guaranteed for 2 of them

cunning parcel
#

how to make convoke macro natures swiftness not cancel your convoke

kind star
#

NS doesnt buff convoke anymore no point to it

cunning parcel
#

ooh

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fr

kind star
#

yeah been like this for about a month

spark river
gentle sky
#

since when does 2hand give more intellect than one hand + offhand?

plain steeple
gentle sky
#

lfr, outdoor veteran cache and ritual site currency vendor

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even if i upgrade the mace to 263 it is still 35 int lower???

plain steeple
#

Seems like one item is bugged, likely the Mainhand.

urban kestrel
#

yeah mh/oh is usally a 65/35 stat split versus 1 2hander

grizzled seal
#

Yeah MH looks like it has way too low int

simple lark
#

Yo guys i was pushing for title with my resto druid, is it basically GG for me now that the meta has changed (especially since im pugging the title) what does it look like for resto druid in m+ in a near future :/?

kind star
#

druid very good wut

simple lark
#

well ye but im already not getting into groups cause they inv mw monk xD

silk ice
#

Do your own key ThumbsUp

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Befriend people who do well

kind star
#

early on with no IO/low gear doing your own key helps

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but ive pugged most of mine with a few with guildies, only 3k atm tho.

simple lark
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im 3.8k man :d

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cba doing my own key xD

silk ice
#

Then it sounds like you cba getting title

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Which isn’t a big deal

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99.9% cba getting the title too

kind star
#

getting to 3.4k and calling it there as I dont have a premade push key

tulip linden
#

hey all, is there an addon or nameplate profile which shows npc ability timers for keys?

livid hearth
#

if i understood correctly, if i extend lifebloom under 30% durationit both blooms and doesnt expire so it stacks more right

fervent mica
#

if you refresh it

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extending with sm doesn't trigger it

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but you don't need to worry about that. just spam sm on cd, the number of blooms that come from refreshing in pandemic is absolutely miniscule compared to apex/phosy

grim sail
#

Use Voidcore on crafted 2H or 2H from Nexus Point?

fervent mica
#

sure

grizzled seal
#

Do you have NXP one?

grim sail
#

Yes

grizzled seal
#

Then just upgrade that one obviously

#

Your crafted weapon should be in your bank

dapper minnow
kind star
#

or the average player not being very good at it I guess, and all the doc memes(mean like a new player trying to go doc 💀)...

dapper minnow
#

Antidotal, but seems really hard to be a bad rshaman, relatively easy to be a bad rdruid.

dapper minnow
rustic coyote
#

You can try to find a group on mythic plus friends discord

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pushing for the title in a pug is harsh

plain steeple
#

How many items can we upgrade to 298 now?

rustic coyote
#

nowadays ppl want meta also for a weekly +10

plain steeple
#

I see people with 3 upgrades

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Is that right?

kind star
#

the top 0.1% title we talking about?

grizzled seal
#

Weapons and trinkets only

plain steeple
#

Ah ok thanks

rustic coyote
plain steeple
#

Will we be able to upgrade the other gear later on as well?

kind star
#

yeah no way id ever do that without a premade

grizzled seal
#

No, just these items

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New raid drops some other slots at that ilvl

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That's it

wet escarp
#

do people take incap roar for higher keys?

kind star
#

I always have it in pugs, what do ppl take instead?

rustic coyote
#

I like to have as a safe cc button. You see many pugs forgetting about spitfire in WS

thorn plover
trail crown
distant birch
#

Yeah because that would be a heroic weapon

kind star
#

well 285 is better than 272...

distant birch
#

Not even fully upgraded

kind star
#

do you just not have any crests?

rustic coyote
#

or you can freely upgrade the myth if you alredy crafted

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to the same level

trail crown
inner sonnet
#

I just upgraded my crafted

trail crown
kind star
#

either go farm crest or send on crafted for now ig

trail crown
#

Either way I used my first 3x 80 myth crests on crafts so far

kind star
#

since u can basically farm infinite shards, just takes time.

#

3?

rustic coyote
kind star
#

oh u crafted like a 3rd 285 piece with no embelishment

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I only did 2 and saved my crests

trail crown
#

Ye

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Maybe I should have

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But my boots were still awful

rustic coyote
#

keep in mind that the 80 crests that you use are not totally wasted in case

kind star
#

where have you been using your bonus rolls?

rustic coyote
#

because you can freely upgrade a myth weapon up to 5/6

trail crown
kind star
#

good! 😛

rustic coyote
#

let's put the case that you have a 2H crafted with Bis stats, but you do not have a 2H myth. When you drop the 2H myth you don't have to use any crests up to 5/6, because is the same level of the crafted one

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you just pay 20 for the 6/6

trail crown
#

Ohh that’s true

fervent mica
trail crown
#

I actually got a myth 1/6 wep in my bags

thorn plover
#

You should upgrade max hero weapon and trinkets with voidcores before upgrading those slots in myth

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If you care about min maxing your crests

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Crests are capped, voidcores aren't. Saves you 60 crests

rustic coyote
#

a 6/6 hero track weapon with voidcores becomes 285, it means up to 5/6 you do not pay any myth crests for a myth weapon or trinket

thorn plover
#

^

rustic coyote
#

though you have to farm 2x voidcores

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but it's fine, they do not have any cap

kind star
#

we will have so many eventually, just like 9 a week ish from raid + ur vault keys

thorn plover
#

Nightmare prey and bountiful delves are literally free

kind star
#

still never unlocked prey, well didnt do the intro quest to it.

west topaz
#

prey is actually good, you shouldve

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also if you were doing professions at all, they have a few recipe to buy

trail crown
#

Actually bis tips thanks

inner sonnet
#

is the ascendant voidcores unlimited? like do we get more than 3?

rustic coyote
#

they are not capped

#

you can get as many as you want

inner sonnet
#

love u bejin

#

❤️

trail crown
plain steeple
livid hearth
whole horizon
haughty ibex
#

😭

whole horizon
#

why spend 2 gcd when 1 gcd does trick

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sm your lb target

livid hearth
haughty ibex
#

I mean if it’s in the pandemic window and u can use gcd why not

livid hearth
#

that was my headcanon

whole horizon
#

the pandemic bloom accounts for probably less than 5% of all blooms

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in total

haughty ibex
livid hearth
spark river
inner sonnet
#

sm'ing lb target buys you more time to do more meaningful healing or prep for it

gleaming spoke
#

Photo and apex.

livid hearth
inner sonnet
#

no just sm on cooldown

whole horizon
#

i always refresh in pandemic, but i also always SM my LB target so i rarely have to

gleaming spoke
#

If it's 1 second or so away, I will hold my sm. I will lb refresh (pandemic) and then SM to extend the refresh.

haughty ibex
#

if u have a gcd to spare i dont see the downside, but is rare u find urself in that place if u sm on cd

whole horizon
#

thats like 4 GCDs per minute, youre just throwing healing down the drain

thorn plover
spark river
#

It was miserable

thorn plover
#

Oof

spark river
#

And nothing I could do about it

thorn plover
#

We 1 shot everything before paladins 2 weeks in a row, I was impressed

#

Actually we might have wiped on nexus king lol

low sinew
#

hi! it is worth to upgrade the weapon 285 to 295?

livid hearth
#

ok so to recap. Just sm off cd on lifebloom target and dont have to think about lifebloom or sm at all in different scenarios kinda?

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unless there is oh shit moment i wanna save someone with sm?

thorn plover
gleaming spoke
#

Sm doesnt do significant healing on its own. SotF is what does the healing.

#

would probably rather nature's swiftness into a regrow to save someone

fervent mica
fervent mica
#

with the current setup, yeah

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you heal for more overall by having it on you with the increased healing taken

#

apex go brr

thorn plover
#

It's gonna be funny when that changes and everyone can't break the habit

gleaming spoke
#

It has taken me a long time to get into the habit.

fervent mica
#

my macro targets my focus. when i have no allied focus alive it targets me

trail crown
#

But for m+ its different?

fervent mica
#

yeah

gleaming spoke
fervent mica
#

#showtooltip Lifebloom
/cast [@focus,exists,nodead][@player] Lifebloom

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swiftmend is just the same thing with the skill swapped

trail crown
#

Big

livid hearth
#

just lvled new druid

#

is there specific bosses mobs that tend to kill tanks so i shouldnt lifebloom swiftmend myself in m+?

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also can i have the macro if its ok? xD

haughty ibex
#

on majority of the bosses u can have it on urself, but I usually rather have it on a squishy dps cuz I trust myself more than them

kind star
#

I dont really move it from tanks in keys, sometimes on a squishie dps getting hit by solar beam or some mob mechanic.

livid hearth
#

never tank dying into wipe

haughty ibex
#

yeah i mean, that’s a skill issue from ur team etc

livid hearth
#

extreme example is first pack of windrunners spire

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mobs target non tanks

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with casts

haughty ibex
#

that’s one of the pulls in which id rather have lb on dps

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is not about casts, but yes as a baseline i keep 90% of the time lb on tank on trash

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there is some pulls that aren’t dangerous to tank but to u and dps

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but if u keep lb on urself on first pull aa or some pulls skyreaxh ur trolling yk cuz those are mainly dmg on tank

livid hearth
#

like in our first AA 14 my friend is kinda new to the game restodruid. He couldnt keep up everyone during both fire and wind phase, after wipe i told him tank never dies on this boss, just put lb on yourself and ill stand on your efflo and we had much easier time

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maybe then as you said on trash tank lb but on bosses lb yourself or something maybe?

haughty ibex
#

tank dies on that boss, is acc one of the few bosses that tank requires healing, but u are correct to have lb on dps

haughty ibex
#

💯💯

indigo flume
#

anyone got wild growth macro to cast on frame so if my target die it wont cancel?

thorn plover
#

Just macro it you yourself

indigo flume
#

im not into macro idk how

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i have issue right now that mob dies during wild growth cast and it just cancel itself 😭

thorn plover
#

#showtooltip
/Cast [@player] wildgrowth

indigo flume
#

this will always cast wg on myself?

thorn plover
#

Yes

indigo flume
#

okay thank you very much

thorn plover
#

There are times you shouldn't do that, but it's kinda w/e

indigo flume
#

alright

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its prob better than my wg canceling itself few times

thorn plover
#

What are you casting it on that it's cancelling? Like trash mobs?

indigo flume
#

yeah i mostly have issues in m+

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or in raid for example chim

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when my target is outside of rift

marsh prism
#

you should not do this

kind star
marsh prism
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sorry you should get used to selecting a good target for it

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it does matter

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because it's ranged, and it doesn't even necessarily go on your target

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it is smart

indigo flume
#

dont i want to cast it on myself on raid anyway?

thorn plover
#

Target doesn't matter in that it doesn't necessarily go on your target, but target matters as far as placing it

marsh prism
#

you can also cast it off of enemies (even when you cast it off friendies it doesnt necessarily go onto the friendly you "target")

thorn plover
#

Sometimes you want to target the boss for example

marsh prism
thorn plover
#

Like on last boss magisters

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Ya all the things nance said

marsh prism
#

sorry im a little drunk

indigo flume
#

so how do you guys deal with target dying mid cast

marsh prism
#

i dont cast it on something or someone that would

thorn plover
kind star
#

like it would smart heal/give WG to person closest to target I guess?

thorn plover
#

Not closest, but in range of

kind star
#

dont feel like it really matters but always casting on ppl not at 100%, ah okay gotcha.

indigo flume
#

is there a macro to ignore target and cast it on my mouseover frame?

marsh prism
#

its also not an infinite range

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i think its 40

thorn plover
#

Or last boss AA

trail escarp
#

Range matters, is what is being said. If you're casting it on yourself and you're quite a distance away from anyone else, wild growth will ONLY hit you, nobody else. But if you're in a group all clumped up, you might not even get hit by wildgrowth, its a smart cast, it goes to the units around you that would benefit from it, despite you being the target. Ideally, you're always going to be in a good position (especially in raid if you selfcast lifebloom)

kind star
#

didnt even know you could target mobs with WG

marsh prism
#

yerp

kind star
#

always had it on a mouseover friendly macro

marsh prism
#

sometimes its bait

thorn plover
#

Yeah it's very useful

marsh prism
#

but sometimes its useful

hushed sand
thorn plover
#

Last boss magisters I always target boss with it

marsh prism
#

it is possibly bait during bosses such as ummmm idk if this is true this tier but like vorasius where he's just a big guy in his own little space cuz sometimes even if people are "in range" to be hitting him the wild growth just bugs out and doesnt apply to anyone

#

i dont know if that is true of any specific boss. i am drunk

indigo flume
#

can i disable left clicking player model = target it?

marsh prism
#

but that is a use case where you dont wanna be doing that. volcoross is my old man example

indigo flume
#

i have click cast set to shift + left click but my normal left click keep targetting player models 😭

kind star
#

hmmm alright I got tons of stuff to improve dont think its that major 😛

marsh prism
#

i sometimes do send wild growth off of actual player mouseover ngl

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like in raid

kind star
#

gotta get decent SM cpm tonight and not let LB drop off

marsh prism
#

thats not stupid

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there's also use cases for actually mousing over people to dispel, for instance, so you want mouseover ability for sure

thorn plover
#

Idk how people heal without mouseover

hushed sand
#

I feel like I need more coffee for this WG conversation.

kind star
#

I only heal without mouseover in PvP

marsh prism
#

model

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not the frame

indigo flume
#

i use mouseover all the time just didnt know what to do with wg

kind star
#

I wouldnt even know who I target by using on a model lmao

indigo flume
#

oh i dont mouseover model

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just frames

thorn plover
thorn plover
indigo flume
#

it wasnt working for some reason

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even macro with mouse over was cancelling when my mob target died

thorn plover
#

Then it wasn't casting at your mouseover target

marsh prism
thorn plover
#

Bad macro or bad addon

indigo flume
#

maybe i had bad macro

kind star
#

9% sheeesh

marsh prism
#

it is

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unreal

#

any time i am shitposting in resto that beverage is why

whole horizon
#

lemon is the flavor

marsh prism
#

i am like literally just sitting on the fucking floor with a suntory strong zero double lemon shitposting listening to the scissor sisters like

#

its CRAZY!!! i love resto druid

whole horizon
indigo flume
thorn plover
marsh prism
#

and oat magics yes

thorn plover
kind star
#

Pabst lemonade for my raid tonight garf

trail crown
indigo flume
whole horizon
#

WG will occasionally bug out ime, idk what causes it but it's similar to MotW refusing to cast for no apparent reason

#

i have to target something and then drop target and it fixes it

marsh prism
#

my wg macro hates something about lura

whole horizon
#

like casting on a dead target or your priest in angel

kind star
#

Never had issues yet

whole horizon
#

but it happens when nobody is dead and everyone is in range

marsh prism
#

but it might just be me pressing the button on someone at a really bad time when the phases are occurring

indigo flume
#

sometimes in chim when im in rift and my target is outside i can click my wg 5 times and nothing happend and my brain lag

whole horizon
#

one day this mystery will be solved

marsh prism
#

im not in a state compatible with troubleshooting this at present .

indigo flume
thorn plover
trail crown
#

I never even realized WG is a target thing, playing Druid in different specs since WoTLK classic

kind star
#

finally gonna do one boss on mythic tonight in my guild...yay

thorn plover
indigo flume
#

is there like a small logic when i dont have mouseover target it will cast on myself?

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right now it will not cast when i dont hover frame

thorn plover
#

That's what that will do

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In what i shared

indigo flume
#

right now when i have target and doesnt mouseover frame it says "you have no target"

thorn plover
#

With what I shared?

indigo flume
#

yeah

thorn plover
#

Weird mine works fine like that, I've used it for many moons lol

dapper minnow
#

yeah my WG @mouseover macro bugs out sometimes also.

thorn plover
#

You added the 2nd wild growth after the ; right?

indigo flume
hushed sand
thorn plover
#

Try this
#showtooltip wild growth
/cast [@mouseover] [@player] wild growth

indigo flume
#

still doesnt work

thorn plover
#

Or better yet quit using mouseover macros and use clicked/clique/danders

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And you definitely dragged the macro to your action bar?

indigo flume
#

yeah

hushed sand
thorn plover
#

Idk it works fine for me, both variations

indigo flume
#

😭

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it only works when i mouseover frame or model

#

when i have target but doesnt mouseover it doesnt

thorn plover
#

Do you have auto self cast turned on in settings

indigo flume
#

i never changed this options so idk

hushed sand
hollow sluice
#

was wildstalker nerved?

#

in raid

indigo flume
hushed sand
thorn plover
thorn plover
hushed sand
hollow sluice
#

so still better in raid content?

indigo flume
thorn plover
hushed sand
#

Again.. I need more coffee, but this makes sense to me. How could you (finish)cast when the target is dead prior to the cast finishing?

restive jasper
#

Regarding the WH MM+ build, 2 questions :

  1. Is Forestwalk only woring on self ?
  2. Is it ok to remove one point of Foretwalk to take Fluid form to morph into chicken while spam Wrath etc, ?
  3. With the original WH build, do you manually alway morph to chiken to dps ? Or only when its safe ?

Thanks 😉

indigo flume
#

it just cancel

thorn plover
indigo flume
#

@thorn plover thank you very much, also this macro will first target mouseover and if it doesnt exist then target?

indigo flume
#

alright thanks

restive jasper
thorn plover
# restive jasper Thank you

It's only taken as a path to sunfire. And only use Sunfire if you have to move and can't cast anything else. It's trash and costs a lot of mana.
Lots aren't even taking moonkin or Sunfire anymore

hushed sand
#

Could also consider "target of target" if you are for some reason wanting to target the enemy that "might" die during the cast. Just a thought.

indigo flume
#

@thorn plover yes its working just tested and when my target died it didnt cancel

thorn plover
#

Good

hushed sand
#

Although I'm quite confused on why one would want to cast WG on an enemy target in the first place. Prob just my ignorance.

indigo flume
indigo flume
dapper minnow
#

I didn't even know you could target an enemy with it😆 Also didn't know (until I raided) it was a smart heal.

thorn plover
hushed sand
whole horizon
#

the target of your WG is the anchor for the spell's range. it can affect anyone within 40yds of them.

hushed sand
indigo flume
#

it might not reach everyone

thorn plover
#

Everyone is in range of the boss

hushed sand
whole horizon
#

it has implications for who can receive the HoT, so it's important to know how it works

#

if you cast it on your tank, and your mage is soaking a debuff and they're 50yds from the tank but only 30yds from you, then you should have cast it on yourself, yeah?

kind star
#

so annoying when you get ranged dps standing in africa on their own

hushed sand
#

Interesting. For one.. I'm a dummy and feel like everyone is in range on that fight, but if I think about it.. they prob aren't. Good stuff. Thanks for the early morning education boys and girls.

whole horizon
#

i mean sometimes they have to

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on vaelgor we have DPS running practically to the edge of the platform to soak gloom safely

indigo flume
#

i could never play evoker after being used to druid range

whole horizon
#

you just have to be mindful of how your spells interact

kind star
#

yeah meant more like in m+

hushed sand
kind star
#

but thats good info for raid

whole horizon
#

its a total nonissue in m+, yeah

indigo flume
marsh prism
#

come over.

hushed sand
#

lol

kind star
#

naaah its noon wdym

indigo flume
#

wait with 5 yds talent do we get 45 range or 40?

hushed sand
#

It's technically 11am here, but I slept in because I've been pumping Adderall for two days and needed sleep.

indigo flume
#

6pm for me

kind star
#

yall living in the future/past

indigo flume
#

how do people get 45% haste

#

i only have 41% with 1k mastery 😭

whole horizon
#

i was incorrect, the range for you casting WG is 40yds but it will only affect 30yds around your target

kind star
#

1041 haste/950 mastery D: but only 278

indigo flume
#

best i can do rn...

icy delta
#

are the bonusroll voidforge stuff character bound or account bound? Meaning if i use the currency on 1 char do i "lose" rolls on other char?

fervent mica
#

Each character can buy their own

icy delta
#

So i should always use them on alts

solid hemlock
#

buy them on all your characters if you want bonus rolls on those chars

kind star
#

yup every character has its own cap on bonus rolls

icy delta
#

it is kinda strong i got a 240 ilvl prot paladin i can gear with myth gear just by doing 10's

livid hearth
#

So im trying this extend lifebloom with sm off cooldown thing in timewalking dungeon on my new alt.

Seems like i cant perma extend so i use sm once then until sm comes back i have to use lifebloom to extend so rotate lifebloom and sm to permanently extend lifebloom?

grand herald
#

I think i cast LB once a minute

thorn plover
#

I cast lifebloom 8 times in a 8 minute fight

icy delta
#

If i use veteran crests to buy it do i still get same currency i can use to get myth gear from +10'a?

thorn plover
#

Yes

#

They just give you 3 ways to buy the bonus rolls, they're the same tho

indigo flume
#

damn more haste really feels great

rustic copper
#

🤯

indigo flume
whole horizon
#

can i vent for a second

#

did it not cross their minds for a single moment to actually incorporate fishing into this stupid abyss anglers minigame

indigo flume
#

i did this minigame for 5 mins and never cameback

whole horizon
#

right?

#

i'd be here all day if you actually caught fish while doing it

#

make it make sense

indigo flume
#

well im not really into minigames and this stuff

#

i just enjoy raiding

livid hearth
#

every new character i have to acquire 4 set first then start dropping it from content right?

#

the first one i got on my main is not accountwide right?

kind star
#

once you get 4piece and the achievement every character will get dawnlight manaflux as drops from various content.

livid hearth
#

ok ty

wise galleon
#

Just dropped hero litany simming better then mythic coach/hero windrunnerspire heart trinket

#

Whats good for m+ other then gaze and locus?

whole horizon
#

you pretty much called out our top 4

#

vaelgor's is decent but it doesn't line up with convoke, so i prefer a passive trinket

kind star
#

litanny must feel abit weird to play on a druid nah

wise galleon
#

It's just that litany hero sims better then mythic coach and hero heart but I was unsure if I should trust sim where it excepts optimal play

whole horizon
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they nerfed coach's whistle like 2 weeks into the expansion, it hasnt been in contention for top 5

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i would expect it to sim low

wise galleon
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for m+ exclusively because im just pushing that, I feel so bad I'm failing multiple 18s and most of it is my fault

hasty current
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Well ofc whistle will sim low, its value is in stats to another player

whole horizon
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no, the sim takes that into account

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and it still sims low

wise galleon
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Maybe having things die faster is actually good idk

whole horizon
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i really am not seeing what your problem is, trust your sim results

main timber
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For ally stat trinkets there is a setting above the chart you can play with

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Since ultimately I can't decide for you how much you care about your friends

rustic copper
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2x

hardy veldt
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Just started working on my restro druid alt last week. The 12 NPX I just done is much easier than the 10s I did last weekend

main timber
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You could argue it should be above 100% even

thorn plover
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285 drums is goat

bright swift
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@grizzled seal we won the 1/2 on Alnseer

grizzled seal
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Insane

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I need to win on alleria today

rustic copper
bright swift
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I already have the neck from vault

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so I only need the ring

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So for the ring that's 1/4

rustic copper
grizzled seal
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We aren't doing lura this week

rustic copper
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If I find the neck in my vault I’m coining Lura and hoping to not get it

bright swift
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(and we aren't killing lura)

rustic copper
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So that way if I get the ring I can take the neck

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Wtfff

grizzled seal
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Dude you guys day raid

bright swift
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We have too many people missing

grizzled seal
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We aren't gonna raid more than 1 day

bright swift
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same

rustic copper
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I mean we raided 2 nights the last 2 weeks but the only reason is because we tried to get ppl the kill who weren’t in on prog

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We 1 shot it and 3 shot it with the kill comp

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It’s a relatively free reclear imo

grizzled seal
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Yeah but we are not doing reclears the week after usually

rustic copper
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Unlucky

grizzled seal
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We used to not even raid before

kind star
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was hoping they'd cut the dead weight to make sure we get done with heroic with lura... sadge

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doing 40-50k at 271ilvl is not okay x)

rustic copper
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Your dmg will not matter the enrage is free

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Hit the planets

kind star
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we got to p2 on our first time on lura

rustic copper
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That’s the hard part

thorn plover
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I think we killed it the first time we got to p3

wise galleon
kind star
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we wasted alot of time on the runes so hopefully we get thru phase 2 and after its 'free' ?

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Might try and find another raid for my alt to actually push more tho, but these guys are my guild from mop, like hanging out with the boys.

rustic copper
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It’s only free if your dmg is good garf

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We almost killed it in p2 when my guild killed it

whole horizon
kind star
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Alrighty surely we take it down then!

haughty ibex
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is smth u equip and dont think about it just enjoy free stats

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idk about u but i cant rly feel when i get 250haste from my heart of wind

onyx cosmos
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Trying to figure out why SotF is random and doesn’t prioritize the 2nd and 3rd lowest health members

thorn plover
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Because that's the way it is