resto

[kind star]

havent got good experiences last few pugs I ran 😂

that maisara cavern was hell

[gilded oxide]

Resto can feel especially punishing when unexpected damage goes out due to people standing in shit / missed kicks / etc

[stable verge]

What in tarnation

What. Why, how

[gilded oxide]

Would need logs to confirm but I'd be surprised if a +12 taking 45 minutes was solely your fault lol

[stable verge]

All of these

[kind star]

group kept ass pulling stuff, tank lacking aggro, people not going in traps on first boss 😄

[wicked spade]

Will do! 😂

[kind star]

the usual shit pug ya know

maisara is so free tho i dont get it

[wicked spade]

But yeah, I am in no position to tell anyone what to do though because I barely know what I am doing as it is XD

[kind star]

we had to go down/do the gauntlet like 3-4 times on last boss, dps doing 30-40k 😄

[stable verge]

[kind star]

my 226 demo lock does that much I dont get ppl lmao

[gilded oxide]

Yeah I mean in that case your healing was probably never going to be saving that run haha

[kind star]

nah its totally my fault for not dpsing to save 12minute duh

[stable verge]

Do you even dream of cenarius bro?

[gilded oxide]

TRUE, Dorki was doing 180k dps in the 2 seconds of a video they watched so why aren't you

[stable verge]

Well tbh I play that spec for +12-15

[kind star]

I dont dps all that much on trash tho not familiar enough with the packs

[stable verge]

Not that it would change anything in that hell of a +12 anyway

[kind star]

yeah, I ended up doing 14s with guildies after that

[gilded oxide]

In half of my runs I just sunfire and throw out the occasional starsurge on trash, getting a regrowth out and stopping a DPS getting overlapped and instakilled because a kick got missed is probably going to save us more damage than I was doing anyway

[kind star]

its like 20k ish dps not gonna make or break the run

[spark river]

no but i get bored to death standing there

[gilded oxide]

Watching Vickman is always a nice humbling experience to remind myself that I'm still dogshit though, I can't imagine catweaving and not getting the entire group killed in 20s/21s

[sudden rover]

are we able to upgrade everything tomorrow? or just one piece per week

[gilded oxide]

I don't think we actually know, I assume it'll be staggered though

[kind star]

we NA players will beta test and let yall know today we dont really know but will prolly be 1 per x week

[sudden rover]

cheers

can't wait for u guys to have your items deleted because #bug

[stable verge]

Well as much as vickman is great, catweaving is probably easier to play around that caster shit

[spark river]

the complexity of my starfires will be talked about for years

[stable verge]

Throw a few bleed and you're gucci for 15-20s. You can even move while building that up
In caster form any aoe at your feet will force you to stopcast, and of course if you don't cast.. you don't damage

[kind star]

just hate commiting to long starfire cast 😛

[sudden rover]

how is catweaving easier than literally spamming starfires

[stable verge]

^

You create windows where you can spam heal while damage is running

[kind star]

and all ur attack are gcds not cast as cat

[sudden rover]

both are trash damage anyways, almost useless to do

[stable verge]

Hmm no

[gilded oxide]

True, I guess I also don't run fluid form which probably makes catweaving a lot smoother

[solid hemlock]

I hope i actually succed at this one. I ran a bunch of +12 failure attempts yesterfday

[stable verge]

Not packs have similar hp so not useless. Besides a full wrath/starsurge spam would yield better single target damage than catweaving too

[kind star]

yeah further we go into reset ppl pushing their keys and the baddies are doing the 10-12s and what not

[stable verge]

Problem is that you can't cast 24/7 for obvious reasons

[kind star]

cat would prolly get more 'uptime' ish on bosses tho as you can dps and move/dodge swirlies and stuff, I thought cat was better ST.

[stable verge]

It def was before the caster spell buff. Now provided similar uptime caster is likely on top.
However as you said, catweave should be higher on bosses due to uptime

[kind star]

you 100% go liveliness if going cat right?

been debating trying cat agane

[stable verge]

Yeah

[gilded oxide]

Looking at a couple of the top ranked parses for Rdruid at the moment, Catweaving seems to be the most consistent on single target

[stable verge]

At this point I think it doesn't matter for 99.9% of the population whichever route of decide to go

[haughty ibex]

i mean st uptime as caster isnt that tragic u have instacast and super short cast

prio dmg wise cat is better

[kind star]

yeah its mostly personal choice I just wanna feel out which is cozier for me

I just often greed out my starfire cast letting hots run out or not moving out of swirlies kinda thing

[gilded oxide]

This, just play whatever feels more comfortable. You can time 18-20s with healers doing like 5-10k dps which is like 1-2% of the groups overall, it really doesn't matter a whole lot.

[solid hemlock]

like i have time to do anything. last group was so bad I was stuck with chain casting regrowth. Like wtf having to drink mana potions

[grizzled seal]

[stable verge]

And in that case, catbuild have the avantage that a good feral frenzy on a specific target can help nuke an otherwise annoying mob

Like solar orb in Skyreach that is not being nuked down or some shit

[haughty ibex]

do u cast starfire in st?

[kind star]

naaah

meant on big pulls on trash

[gilded oxide]

I think even if you're playing caster build, you still go into Cat for for your hotw if you're trying to use it optimally

[stable verge]

Of course

[kind star]

ofc

[stable verge]

But the damage is like -30/25% ? since you don't spec into physical dmg increase

[kind star]

I dont use mine as much as I could tho :/ always using on bosses tho

[stable verge]

Or some shit

[kind star]

started using it on some prio mobs here and there

[haughty ibex]

in 12s but even higher u can unbind legit all ur dps spells

and u can +3 it anyways

so dont worry too much

[sudden rover]

our dps is terrible

[kind star]

yeah its more of the matter of not just standing there when nothing happening, I like to play with the whole toolkit

[sudden rover]

i rather alt tab during downtime

[kind star]

im barely dpsing atm like 4-6k dps on overall 😛

[sudden rover]

ye im around 10k on all my keys this is fucking cringe

vickman will go up to like 17/18k but i dont even think u can go higher than that

[gilded oxide]

I've just finished up with resil 18s and my dps was probably pretty abysmal, I was basically just hitting starsurge and wrath for the mana regen lol + hotw on bosses

[kind star]

Are all healers like this too damage wise? I guess monk would be higher

[gilded oxide]

Monks deal a fair bit of damage particularly on AoE pulls

[glossy holly]

monk is unfair to begin with

spin to win

[kind star]

they need 3 targets and they can just spin to win right

prepped mine for timewalking yesterday 😂

[plush raft]

If I don’t get gaze tomorrow I’ll probably kill luura without it. Actual despair

[gilded oxide]

I've watched a few of Ortemis's runs on Youtube and he's finishing some of them up with like 50kish dps overall

That's a +21 NPX

[gilded oxide]

I've done the same haha, Rsham is also ready to go with 600ish myth crests banked for once I unlock the discount for alts so I'll probably start bouncing between them while I try and get 19s done

[stable verge]

Disc will have like 25-30k overall ish maybe obviously

Rest is fairly average with us

[kind star]

not trying reroll tho druid is my main I love druids :3

[gilded oxide]

I think Pres is also somewhat up there, seen some pretty consistent 25-30k overall logs from them in 20s

Though I think there's like 3 people playing Pres in keys

[kind star]

forgot evokers were a thing 😂

they got rid of muh spiritbloom(I think thats what it was called)

[stable verge]

Yes exactly I don't know how to judge them lmao

[hot halo]

hey quick question: Is it possible to macro /cast swiftmend on a lifebloom target or does the player have to be manually specified?

[thorn plover]

You don't want to do that

[hot halo]

why?

[gaunt willow]

You can cast it by macro on a named player

So in raid you can cash Lifebloom on your self and cash swiftmend on yourself without targeting yourself just with a macro

Since raid you usually have LB on yourself

[hot halo]

if I wanna keep rejuvenation + germination up at lifebloom target at all times wouldn''t it be possible to macro swiftmend to lifebloom target instead of having to specify @player each time?

[sly rapids]

No

[hot halo]

(I could just have it on myself but on saldahar I like to have it on tank and they swap often so idk)

aight I'll just have to put playername each time then xD

might as well just focustarget xD

[kind star]

lb on a tank 😮 criminal

[sly rapids]

Maybe you can cast lifebloom and set focus at same time then swiftmend your focus

This all sounds stupid though

But if thats what you want it might work

[distant birch]

u sure u werent looking at hps

[thorn plover]

Because swiftmend can save someone's life, you might want to have that option. 99% of the time it's going into your lifebloom target, but not always

Macroing all this stuff is going to make you form habits that you're likely to have to change next season. Just keep that it mind

[hot halo]

Would it work to add a modifier that overrides the focustarget?

lmao wrong @ I was gonna say thanks for the constructive feedback but dropped it lol

[glossy holly]

if its different button, it should work

though im not entirely sure which commands in macro will override

[thorn plover]

Yeah you could do that

You just add [modifier:shift] in that line (replace shift with whatever key you want)

[rain saddle]

How do I setup mouseover spells? Do I just manually create macros or is there a good addon?

[grizzled seal]

I'm using Clicked

There is also Clique

Never used it though

There are some bugs with mouse buttons and mouse over in default so I'm using an addon

[sudden rover]

use the blizzard option in menu settings

boom ur set

[olive lava]

Hello guys ! just starting to play drood with my alt , i saw on all guide the rotoation for dps as a cat , but is their any rotation or guide to play at range ?

[glossy holly]

at range will depend what u talented

[spark river]

Just press starfire

[glossy holly]

typical caster contribution talents would include starfire,starsurge and sunfire (this however is deemed as mana waste for minor dmg)

wrath casts, starfire, other ticker i've forgotten the proper name lol but its usually for st

[velvet cloak]

Other ticker? Do you mean moonfire?

[glossy holly]

yeah that

[oak garnet]

50k dps with 160k hps must be nice

[spark river]

Skill issue

[silent ruin]

is na up yet

[grizzled seal]

I must be fucking terrible at monk cuz I do like half of that DPS on my alt lol

How the hell is he at 50k

I can't be possibly fucking up pressing sck

[spark river]

Just spin

Tea into triple kick into spin

[distant birch]

Yeah its just spin and tea into rsk on cd

You should be doing like 20-30k st and 60+ on trash

[kind star]

oh tft idk why brain was thinking mana tea lmao

[thorn plover]

Has it even gone down yet

[fleet jewel]

NA servers went down just now

2 hours...

[kind star]

opie users whats your ring keybinds? trying to remove abunch of useless stuff from my bars and started using it last night

[limpid vector]

question to our APL experts, does the much-hated vessel of tortured souls trink actually sim correctly / realistically? is there some special string to configure a certain orb pick up % like we had for the spidermoth trinket last tier

[dry belfry]

ctrl mb4 and ctrl mb5

[tough portal]

Shift H

[kind star]

oh shift H could be a good bind

using ctrl+z/x/c but abit weird

[tough portal]

It's my mounts opie

[kind star]

trying to put consumes/motw kinda thing on it to free my bars

using like 4 action bars that are pretty full

[silent ruin]

idk

[silent ruin]

i use shift and alt qweasd

[kind star]

I never knew about this addon until yesterday derp

[limpid vector]

oops, no idea how this got posted here, was supposed to post in chicken channel, sry!

[raw cobalt]

is the voidcore bug fixed? like u can roll on +10 and +15 keys of the same dungeon and exclude what you already rerolled?

or you must go only in 10s to work?

[thorn plover]

Key level doesn't matter

[raw cobalt]

thx

[thorn plover]

If you hover over the bonus roll window it shows you what loot is possible to roll, if you want to be sure

[raw cobalt]

and if is buged then what? 😄 i never reroll?

[thorn plover]

It's not

[vivid owl]

Do you have the sck macro? You need to have one or it interrupts the cast and you dont get all the damage ticks

[kind star]

a !spinning crane kick macro kinda?

[vivid owl]

Yep!

[spark river]

what damage ticks

just mash one button

[kind star]

zug zug

[thorn plover]

Wrong discord

[kind star]

....meow :3 ?

[thorn plover]

Better

[spark river]

is it really better

[thorn plover]

No

[fickle garden]

Hello ratso druids

[kind star]

allo!

[spark river]

you literally play a pink class

[half star]

Make sure to wish Voulk a happy birthday today

[spark river]

@main timber happy birthday math magician

[main timber]

[spark river]

I think voulk would like to see some rat pics for his birthday (i want to see them)

[royal radish]

Why LB on myself in Raid instead of Tank? (new to midnight, still leveling up after a 2 year WoW Break...)

[thorn plover]

Happy birthday @main timber Thanks for all you do for the communities

[fervent mica]

you have ~24% increase healing taken. it buffs your apex healing

[glossy holly]

mostly cuz there is other healers that can heal tank

[spark river]

me when i troll and am toxic

[thorn plover]

That's not why

What

[half star]

Rat

[glossy holly]

tanks are popular heal targets, change my mind

[spark river]

What a beauty

[half star]

He has the balance must play boomkin

[kind star]

tanks are never really that close to alot of target that is why

not because tanks are popular target rofl

[spark river]

Needs a chicken suit then haha

[royal radish]

ty, that makes sense now... But still kinda strange way, or lets say... class design seems strange 😉

[glossy holly]

jokes aside, i've thought of it from the aspect of tank being able to take a lot of dmg in raid scenario

[spark river]

im not against a rat shapeshift form

just saying

[kind star]

I dont even feel like tanks take that much damage in general in raids(also still only doing heroic, only myth chim this week)

[glossy holly]

say, when it comes to symbiotic relationship spell

can u just bind that to weakest person rather than tank in both m+ and raid?

[kind star]

I always do squishiest person, the healing it does is very meaningless as far as I know

[glossy holly]

i certainly noticed that

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-14148362097791667095

[fickle garden]

i cant im retrieving my character list forever

[kind star]

4hour left at work

[spark river]

i just do that to the guildie i like

[glossy holly]

thats fair

[past tusk]

can we farm the item to upgrade trinkets/weapons or is one a week?

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-gif-10798388165781977248

[glossy holly]

not yet known apparently

rumor has it, thingy can be farmed from pve content

but idk whats the limits

[kind star]

server just went up we dont know yet

[frosty canyon]

HBD Voulk thanks for answering most of my shitty questions

[vital quiver]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY VOULK!

[fervent mica]

we need 5 pieces to create 1 upgrade

[kind star]

Hbd what would we do without you and qelive 😛

[main timber]

Does mean these are likely just farmable and not timegated

[fervent mica]

yeah

but depending on rarity it could be rough

[kind star]

Oh so that's good news depending on droprate

[tough portal]

This is the same as the pvp version then

Just took 4 weeks to unlock

It drops a lot from PVP but dungeons take much longer than an arena match

[kind star]

Maybe its capped tho like x shard per week or something

[spark river]

does it drop from skirmishes lol

so we can go on a mini game adventure

[fervent mica]

that would be the pvp version

[kind star]

Prolly same content as other things like manaflux/sparks

Delves/raid/m+

[hardy canopy]

Ye can someone try spamming delves

[kind star]

I just hope its not too rare like run 5 delve/m+ for one shard as the quest was already timegated

[glossy holly]

it will take weeks if u just do 8 m+ a week lol

really depends how rare huh

[kind star]

at the same time ig its some kind of extra thing

not like we cant do content without, its just some boost.

[glossy holly]

well it does have intriguing restriction

only works on weapons and trinkets

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hardy veldt]

Fresh 90 restro druid here, which one should I take? Currently have crafted weapon, trash delve trinkets.

[glossy holly]

got some good trinket options eh

[tough portal]

Heart of wind is a good call, you're practically guaranteed a weapon atp from bonus rolls if you just do NPX enough times

And NPX is a much better dungeon to roll all items on than Windrunner Spire

[mellow phoenix]

we take it

[hardy veldt]

Yeah, I spent 6 rolls at npx last week, only missing are the weapon and trinket, but I suppose that healer trinket is not good? So I better use balance spec when looting

[cedar trench]

Rerolling Mw monk

[olive terrace]

Never be in resto loot spec. Only balance or guard

[hardy veldt]

Got it! So I suppose I will take HOW?

[olive terrace]

Yep heart of wind

[hardy veldt]

Great, thks!

[sudden rover]

how/where do u drop these pls my good sir?

[kind star]

found from defeating powerful foes!

[thorn plover]

It drops from any end game content, bountiful delves, m+, raid

Same as cata charges

[hardy veldt]

Quick question, after NPX, what is the next best dungeon for bonus loot?

[glossy holly]

kind of scattered

AA got wrist

[spark river]

academy is fine, skyreach is fine

[sudden rover]

ty

[cedar sentinel]

what is the best damage choice rn, its still cat or moonkin is okay too?

[spark river]

there are multiple options but it doesnt matter really

[sudden rover]

both are dogshit, play what u prefer

[spark river]

Damage is a meme anyway

[sudden rover]

u wont do any damage anyways

[spark river]

Cat more prio damage, boomkin more aoe

[tough portal]

Definitely roll as balance, get your weapon, then start rolling somewhere else

[tough portal]

Speak for yourself

[spark river]

@thorn plover whats left to roll on dreamrift

[sudden rover]

😹

link me one of your keys

please

[lament river]

So We Can first upgrade in 4 weeks ?

[spark river]

This conclusion is actually amazing

[lament river]

Wdym ?

[thorn plover]

Belt that I got week 1 that didn't count, and gaze

[thorn plover]

You can upgrade today if you farm enough pieces

It just drops from bountiful delves, m+, raid bosses like cata charge

[spark river]

At least both are good now. I got both of those last week so it was quite the boost for me.

[thorn plover]

I've got the haste vers belt already so it's w/e

[spark river]

Thats surely dropping then lol

[thorn plover]

I guarantee I don't get gaze this week

Then when it's guaranteed next week it's in my vault

Screenshot this please

[spark river]

Im sitting at 285 now

Pretty chill

[thorn plover]

I should be 285 today too

I have 170 crests to drop if I get something to upgrade

If not I'm crafting

[spark river]

Both of my rings are due an upgrade so that nexus point roll is going to go crazy

Rings, wrist and head are the items i need

so crafting is meh

[thorn plover]

What is tier hands

[spark river]

as in track or stats

[thorn plover]

Stats

Helm and pants are both haste mast right

[spark river]

id like to say haste vers but im not so sure

[thorn plover]

Or just pants

[spark river]

pants are haste mastery

[thorn plover]

Hmm

[spark river]

and helm also

[thorn plover]

I was maybe gonna craft hands then

[tough portal]

The voidshard thing isnt a guaranteed drop from raid bosses

GG

[thorn plover]

Ofc not

[spark river]

Guess we all go on a delve farming adventure before raid night

[thorn plover]

Blizz forcing me to play the game to get upgrades, smh

[fervent mica]

1 core from 2 m+

thusfar

[thorn plover]

Guildie got 3 in 3 delves

Nothing in the 4th

[fervent mica]

waow

[thorn plover]

It's just RNG like cata charges

[fervent mica]

did it come from the bountiful box?

[thorn plover]

Ya

[spark river]

I got 15 keys

Im ready

[thorn plover]

4 a day right

[spark river]

Yeah

[thorn plover]

That's not bad

Probably the play tbh lol

[spark river]

They are also the fastest

[fervent mica]

yeah

wish i had stockpiled keys

[spark river]

Maybe prey chests can drop?

[thorn plover]

Oh ya they can for cata charges

So probably

I haven't done a prey in weeks. Forgot that shit existed

[waxen ingot]

Recklessness or light potention in intermission lura

1st one

or well the only one

[spark river]

Reck probably better

[waxen ingot]

Cant decide and logs are kinda all over the place

[thorn plover]

Use the 10% increased healing taken one lol

[sudden sable]

Whisper of the Duskwraith as bad as I think? Not even on the trinket list as a D trink for healing? I got kitty trinks, was looking for a healy one ..... just take a roll instead?

[thorn plover]

Terrible

[spark river]

Its very bad yeah

Take roll

[thorn plover]

If it's not a bis item from vault the answer is always reroll

[sudden sable]

OK thanks.

[spark river]

I have rerolled and now playing monk

[thorn plover]

I'm playing bear outside of raid

[spark river]

I used to be better at trolling

But I do have a monk alt

But im such a hater of this spin shit

I refuse to play it before it gets nerfed

[thorn plover]

I'm not trolling unfortunately

Even after nerf today bear is still on top

Sounds like full apex rework coming tho

[spark river]

Yeah it went from giga broken to broken

Its fine that its strong just make other tanks also strong

[thorn plover]

They buffed them all but not enough

[spark river]

Its the same story with healing and hpala, resto shaman and holy priest

They keep buffing them but they are still very far from the rest

[mystic crater]

Make it so all tanks can do 5 tank groups at 20 key level

[spark river]

Need to get people to play tanks somehow

Lfg is a sorry state

[fervent mica]

uhg... time to run 500x +2s

[thorn plover]

I don't have data to back this up, but this feels like the worst the game has been for balance in a while

Class balance not moonkin

[storm portal]

ok guys, this is a good one for know how im doing bad in key, any suggestion to improve? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tBVxGycbwj4vJ1LZ?fight=last&type=healing

[hearty coral]

They let enhancement go off

It looks like

[tough portal]

Eh

There is a whole entire rest of the dungeon before that

[hearty coral]

I'm on mobile idk why I only saw like 5 deaths

[rustic coyote]

It is just sad that you either find monk or druid. It's fine that a meta is 1 key above with the right effort, not day and night differences among other tanks

[hearty coral]

Oh it was on a specific pull for me

Weird

[haughty ibex]

half of deaths would have been prevented if u were running aoe stop or u acc used ur typhoon vortex - others if u were aware of who’s taking dmg and dmg patterns in the dungeon etc

[outer stone]

I have a mythic gaze, coach whistle and a hero heart. what would you run as both trinkets?

[haughty ibex]

im on mobile too so impossible to see timeline 😔😔 but some deaths are legit weird? like in the eruption mobs, u barksin (good) but then legit forget to heal ueself? u just press sm?

if u were prepared with hots spread around on dps, that pull is quite chill as u just have to spam rg on whoever still has the dot

[misty oracle]

Hello resto friends

Can anyone tell me if you can use the voidcore on an offhand

[haughty ibex]

but i genuenly feel like u don’t see bleeds/dots on players and that’s why u don’t realise u have to heal them? do u see the shadow pounce/ backstab etc?

[silent ruin]

what's the reagents for equipments btw
arcanoweave lining, missive of feverflare and what? 🤔

[spark river]

at 8 seconds into the dungeon you shift to cat and cast nothing until 15 seconds

not even a damage spell

[haughty ibex]

stop cheating watching timeline grrr

[misty oracle]

Hewwo

[tough portal]

Yeah this feels like it, the evoker died a dozen times to dots with practically no direct healing for all of it

[tough portal]

Idk how many people have 5 of it yet and how many are gonna try using it on an offhand first bro

[misty oracle]

Well

Maybe

[haughty ibex]

ye cuz also on himself he pressed defs but then didn’t heal cuz thought dmg was over? but the cast leaves a dot that he prob don’t see

[spark river]

also on his first death when getting umbral bolted he heals only 12k

[haughty ibex]

he had heal absorb on him no?

[kind star]

I really should fix my frames to see those debuffs im not seeing

[haughty ibex]

wat don’t u see

idk seat was my grid2 test dungeon cuz couldn’t see anything at first

[kind star]

I mostly only see what I can dispel so kinda yolo blanketing at times, just using danders without fiddling with settings.

[outer stone]

^^ help pls

[kind star]

I know theres some dots or things I dont see and just react to the damage

[versed fiber]

$qelive

[haughty ibex]

qelive but prob gaze + heart

[hearty coral]

You can learn from each pull though to be ready for them

[spark river]

He gets leeching void but instead of health potting or regrowthing in that moment

he casts rejuvenation

which does nothing

and he gets bolted and dies

[hearty coral]

You don't want to be starting prepping when the enemy is casting the major damage event

[outer stone]

i was thinking the same

thx

[kind star]

now that im doing 12/14s im starting to actually learn the pull or just targetting prio mobs and watching their casts/targets

[tough portal]

Yeah tbf he was at 90% HP 2s before that, leeching void is a big hit + umbral bolt both land within 1s

[versed fiber]

reactionary bad

[haughty ibex]

imagine aoe stop + frenzied rejuv 😋😋😋😋

[hearty coral]

Aoe stop to offset auto casts from major casts is helpful yeah

[spark river]

If he was prepared better he could have survived that

[haughty ibex]

wat

if no one is kicking and it’s 2x bolt on me ill aoe stop idc

[hearty coral]

Yes

That's what I said

Wat

[haughty ibex]

I thought u were flaming me cuz it would have casted again sorry…

[hearty coral]

Separating stuff so there's not so much overlap

Wat

I'm flaming you now

For flaming me for agreeing

...

❤️

[proven phoenix]

wow...

[haughty ibex]

wow okay… I hate u

[hearty coral]

[proven phoenix]

can u be nice man

[spark river]

no

next question

[storm portal]

ok guys, the cat for on first pull is for take out the aoe damage on first room. but for that evoker i can't keep it alive, the dot 3shot he

[spark river]

thats 7 seconds

[storm portal]

i don't know how can i improve, if i spend all dungeon to spread rej for empower my rg i can make nothing

[spark river]

it doesnt take you 7 seconds to remove chains

also you should pre shapeshift to bear and cast a healing spell to remove chains

[haughty ibex]

i mean u got lots of stuff told to u? do u see dots on ur frames?

[hearty coral]

You are also probably over rejuving

[storm portal]

yy

[haughty ibex]

cuz evoker died 10x from same mechanic

[storm portal]

im using atrocity ui atm

[haughty ibex]

idek what that uses for frames ngl

[spark river]

elvui i think

or grid

[hearty coral]

You can get double mastery stack on 5 people in like 4 gcds

[spark river]

but it doesnt matter really

[hearty coral]

If you are manually rejuving that could explain some issues

[spark river]

all frames should have that displayed

[haughty ibex]

idk mine didn’t at first

i heard qe live updated profile but b4 didn’t show bleeds or not dispellable stuff

that’s why i was wondering cuz it’s odd that he just stops healing some stuff when he needs to press rg

[storm portal]

i use some rj spam other than the 3 from the talent after SW, bc if i don't use 8 rj the rg i find it rly bad for heal

[grave quail]

Do you guys know if you can configure danders to show hots in static positions ?

[spark river]

Yes

aura designer

[grave quail]

Ooh thank you

[livid hearth]

If I get 272 myth weapon i can upgrade it to full for no myth crests as i own 289 weapon but if i wanna craft myth weapon or off hand i still have to spend 80 myth crests right?

[grave quail]

I am using vuhdo but it's not great for debuffs

[spark river]

I recently switched to danders

Its great

[storm portal]

maybe i wrong that mechanics, bc i see ppl heal easy with this, im going very stressful and i find hard to keep all alive

[spark river]

Also beginner friendly

[haughty ibex]

u didn’t press rg once here

and all rest of deaths

[spark river]

that poor evoker

[tough portal]

These are all your spot-heals casted on peopel with Backstab, in the 7:36 death for the Evoker you didnt cast any Swiftmend or Regrowth

[spark river]

fighting for his life

[haughty ibex]

the backstab is like 6 seconds, that’s why im wondering why u aren’t pressing anything on him

[tough portal]

Next pull it's the same thing

[kind star]

just gotta steal someone's danders profile xd

[spark river]

vick has a solid danders profile

There is one on qe also

[tough portal]

Regrowth casts on Shadow Pounce targets

[spark river]

I did up adjusting one to my needs

[tough portal]

You need to cast direct heals on people directly taking damage mate

Learn the mechanics of the dungeons and where that shows on your interface

So when someone has a heavy dot you cast heals on them

[kind star]

im just somewhat lazy but if I can get a profile then I might just change some things to my liking

[tough portal]

Dont get caught out spamming Starfire on hard pulls and trying to put up manual Rejuvs DURING damage events

Rejuvs shoulda been up 10s ago

[kind star]

I still havent set up my UI/CDM and stuff to my liking bcuz lazy... derp

[spark river]

Seat is the hardest dungeon hps wise so you really need to know the damage pattern well

[frosty canyon]

Druid can’t really be a lazy class

[misty oracle]

Tell that to guardian dev

[storm portal]

is fun as fuck the druid guys, but if i continue to heal that bad i have to delete it for the love of azeroth

[frosty canyon]

Meant resto lol, I knew someone would say something

[finite jackal]

Hey has anyone else tried upgrading their crafted staff its not working for me <.<

[spark river]

or you could just improve

thats also an option

[haughty ibex]

ur fine u just need to improve man

takes time

[spark river]

Have you farmed all the shards?

[haughty ibex]

now u see some mistakes and next time u are prepared:D

[finite jackal]

yes I have them combined into 5 and tried using it channels but does nothing

Relogged even took the oil off just in case

[storm portal]

ye guys thanks for the info

[frosty canyon]

It’ll get better buddy, some people learn better getting their ass kicked multiple times

[storm portal]

it go all fine since i go to 16, now seems i have do nothing before

[spark river]

Well you are coming into the keys where you need to think about what you are doing

[thorn plover]

Lmao the upgrade thing doesn't even work

This game man

[frosty canyon]

You’re doing +16 keys?

[haughty ibex]

legit that’s the way

[spark river]

Nothing another maintenance cant solve kekw

[storm portal]

y

[haughty ibex]

I learned here i can pre hot 😭 trolled ws first pull so much before

[thorn plover]

I can't keep defending blizzard

[fleet jewel]

is it still worth it to run 4pc? or run haste/mast shoulders?

[thorn plover]

Every feature they release is broken

[storm portal]

also the dps guys, do dps with that class is a hell, if i shift into cats for sure some ppl are nearly die or die XD

[kind star]

Indie company cut em some slack 😂

[thorn plover]

Depends who you ask. I dropped 4 set long time ago. Others have as well

[frosty canyon]

Don’t do dps if you can’t keep people up it’s meaningless

[spark river]

Thats becaues you dont understand the damage pattern of the dungeon

[finite jackal]

@thorn plover Did you do it on a crafted weapon or upgraded one?

[haughty ibex]

cuz u aren’t prepared + u don’t know dungeon prob

[kind star]

Just ABC always be casting

[thorn plover]

Tried both

[kind star]

Or KISS keep it simple stupid

[finite jackal]

Like in pit of saron on the giant boss you can easily sneak dps in while your team is hiding behind the boulder

thats like an ezy way or some mythic on the trash before last boss when the guy has the shield up cat dps his back

same*

[tawny delta]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/hoetvicilptc

Hey guys, think I should take this emberwing which is a insanely small upgrade or just take the extra reroll to try and get mythic track instead?

[fleet jewel]

dropping it just for shoulders or also when you got lura helm?

[tawny delta]

theres no like bonus roll calculator anywhere right? Like when you run your upgrade finder on qe?

[haughty ibex]

i mean it shows u ur best upgrades

per dungeon

[tawny delta]

Right but it doesnt show you mythic track versions of them

[spark river]

You can do upgrade finder and sort by slot to see what you should aim for

[haughty ibex]

yes u can do that

[tawny delta]

aka reroll

[spark river]

Put the slider on 289

[haughty ibex]

before u send it slider all the way to the right 💯

[tawny delta]

oh sick!! THanks so much :3

[spark river]

Not all the way

All the way is 298 lol

[haughty ibex]

i lied

for fun sorry

[tawny delta]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-nanami-gYyAnYhxT1xqRxFD7W

[haughty ibex]

legit me coin flipping half of the shit i say

[hardy canopy]

does anyone know if you get the shit from ritual sites

[exotic zephyr]

I've started healing this season but mainly m+, just did my first mythic raid boss, can I drop a log in here for some tips or do I do that in another channel?

[tough portal]

Only m+, bountiful delves, and raid bosses, I think

I've done a bunch of the weekly world events so far and got nothing

[scenic pilot]

LFR gonna be rocking this week

[spark river]

yes

[exotic zephyr]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RhKBrNcj263VnWCA?fight=4&type=summary

ty

[viral berry]

When your doing your ramp in raid:

(1) Do you try to avoid doing double rejuvs? Like prioritize single rejuv coverage on as many people as possible?

(2) When cleaving regrowths do you try to hit targets that have rejuvs on them to cleave bigger? (Obviously hit low health targets but assuming all else is equal do you prio targets with hots for larger regrowths from mastery)

[thorn plover]

Shoulder

[thorn plover]

Can also confirm nightmare prey gives

The upgrade thing doesn't seem to work tho

[hardy canopy]

nope

i just dropped it from a tier 1 ritual site

go spam ritual sites

[thorn plover]

T1 sites seem guaranteed according to guildies

[exotic zephyr]

ah I didn't think to avoid double rejuvs, I'll do that, and no ive definitely not thought to target people with rejuv's with regrowth, just whoever is lowest but it's chim so nobody was really at risk of dying

[tough portal]

Sheeeeesh

[viral berry]

Is it (1) per week or has anyone looted multiple Ascendant Void shards?

[tough portal]

Ok t1 site slam lmao

[storm portal]

In what case is good to swap the rg on trash out from tank?

[fleet jewel]

[exotic zephyr]

i know my lifebloom uptime needs to be much higher as well, any tips on that in raid? In dungeons it's easy to just keep track of it on my frames but it kinda gets lost when im looking at 20 frames

[spark river]

Click your spells. Your overall cpm is 35. It should be >50.

Lb uptime is at 72%. It should be 95%. Get lifebloom alert or some other lb tracking addon.
Your swiftmend cpm should be around 4.5.
Stop pressing damage spells 37 globals wasted on moonfire and wrath.
Always extend lb and 2x rejuv with swiftmend on yourself and use that sotf buff on rejuv.
13/15 lifeblooms were not renewed in pandemic window. This needs to be fixed.
2 missed usages of convoke, 1 missed usage of tranq, 2 missed usages of innervate.
Your tranq and convoke need to have bigger ramps.
Your rejuv to regrowth ratio should be 1:1. You need to learn to ramp. Ramp to 12 abundance and spam regrowth until down to 6 and cycle.
You need to combat pot.

[dense lantern]

download an addon

[frosty canyon]

Do you just copy and paste this as a template and change the numbers? Lmao

[spark river]

I go through every log

Mistakes repeat

[exotic zephyr]

thank you 😄

[frosty canyon]

Yeah they do, I’ve learned more watching other people’s logs get critiqued here than anywhere

[grizzled seal]

1. You double rejuv if you go for "longer" ramp or you are healing some debuffs
2. You generally prio health of players when rerowthing and lack of regrowth hot

[exotic zephyr]

so if everyone is topped off and hots are gona keep people up I shouldn't press wrath and moonfire?

[stable iron]

People with Vaelgor's, is it worth saving rerolls for? It sims as one of my only remaining upgrades but I've heard a lot of people say it's clunky as hell to use

Would rather use my rerolls trying to get my last 2 pieces on myth

[rustic copper]

You should only double rejuv if you are planning to pandemic rejuv later

[grizzled seal]

You double rejuv ramp on paladins, alleria and lura I'd say

And on alleria only if you have very few melee

[spark river]

You should never press damage spells unless you are running ms then you use it only for mana

[whole horizon]

shouldnt locus/gaze beat everything? how is vaelgor's your highest?

[exotic zephyr]

oh wow

thats depressing lmao

ty for the advice

[haughty ibex]

wdym sorry? im slow

[storm portal]

No sorry my bad 🤣 u swap lifebloom constantly if u know someone is getting hard damage or just stay on range and let the lifebloom on tank?

[exotic zephyr]

so if the group is topped off and I dont need to refresh lifebloom or use swiftmend, do I just spread out more rejuvs and free regrowths?

[tough portal]

That's just the nature of healing in content with constant damage or prepping for it. There are specs that heal through doing damage, but that just means they're still healing full time

If you wanna do more healing it makes no sense to press fewer healing spells

[tame galleon]

What tier delves starts to give the voidshards?

[night sorrel]

Question, are we caring about DR's when it comes to haste?

Im running my QE and its still saying use Blood Knights, but that puts me a good ways over

[exotic zephyr]

oh for sure, I just figured that if its an easy boss where the only real risk of dying is the consume outside of that i should just press my damage buttons to kill the boss faster

[haughty ibex]

not specifically, i would keep lb on tank on trash 90% of the time, just have rejuvs out on everyone and know when dmg is coming so u are ready to switch

so many trash packs aren’t dangerous on dps, only few scripted abilities are so u can be ready

[stable iron]

Locus too but my guild probably won't have Alleria down for another week or two

[fervent mica]

has to be bountiful, but tier shouldn't matter

[exotic zephyr]

I was also worried that if I'm just spamming out rejuvs when theres not gona be any damage for like 15s and no major damage for like 30s i was going to risk ooming myself.

[stable iron]

This is pretty much everything I have left. Tempted to just drop all 3 of my rerolls in a dungeon for a myth track helmet instead of saving for Vaelgor's. I'll have more rerolls for Alleria by the time my guild has her down

[scenic pilot]

Is Harmonious Blooming good outside of top keys? Nurturing Dormancy or even 2nd Thriving Vegetation seem like they would be better for PUGs in most key levels.

[storm portal]

Aok thanks, also im going oom fast and when i see ppl playing they do triple my hps without spending mana. I ha e to drink a lot on the key. Thats why other than i have to know better the dungeon the problem is something i miss in the rotation

[exotic zephyr]

is ms master shapeshifter?

[kind star]

yes

[kind star]

I dropped ND for 2 TV, I think some people here also do it.

[frosty canyon]

Looks like the upgrade core things aren’t 100% drop from T1 ritual sites like someone else here suggested

[rustic copper]

It is fine to press dmg spells on other healers, not so fine for us because a rejuv you cast right now can be a meaningful healing increase in as long as 46 seconds

[kind star]

if new to the class/spec just stick to healing for now and learning the pulls and whats dangerous and then id start dpsing eventually.

[rustic copper]

Rejuv lasts much longer than most healing spells do

[exotic zephyr]

i see

do we feral hotw + rip?

[kind star]

You shouldn't have rip in keys unless playing a cat build

[exotic zephyr]

for raid i mean

in keys I def catweave cuz it's so much boss dam

[kind star]

Oh yeah then

[tough portal]

I'm not getting shards

From ritual site spam

It isnt guaranteed man yall lied to me

[kind star]

Im prolly gonna blast some lfr

[haughty ibex]

yeah ur def pressing rejuv too much instead of pressing regrowth. once u have rejuvs out, the only thing left to do is ur usual lb uptime/wg and then only rg when people take dmg

u don’t press rejuv when dmg is already out, u prepare before and then just press rg. refresh rejuv only when is sbout to go out, and dont forget to sm + rejuv majority of the time so u dont hardcast them all

[rustic copper]

If you run ms you can

[frosty canyon]

Lmao that’s what I said, not guaranteed at all

[vivid peak]

do you move lifebloom on crown to the debuff people?

[spark river]

Sorry I was away a bit.

You want to refresh lifebloom in pandemic and cast swiftmend on cd. When you dont have to do that, you ramp to prepare for damage and ideally regrowth during damage, if there is no damage you would still regrowth to spread out the hot and save mana through abundance.

Even when damage isnt happening, you should be preparing for the next damage event as we are a ramping class.

You wont oom yourself if you properly ramp and get the most out of abundance.

Ms is Master Shapeshifter and the most common use case is to feral frenzy into a rip for quick mana. Other than that you can cast a couple of wraths if the situation is really dire.

I ve also just noticed that you havent dipped below 90% mana for the fight, so how are you going to go oom lol

[night sorrel]

Do we care about the Diminishing Return for haste as Resto?

Im at 1354 - and QE still is saying us haste flask

[fervent mica]

nah

[fervent mica]

nope

[night sorrel]

rog ty

[mystic crater]

can't believe you lied to us, smh

[spark river]

You want as much haste as you can get in raid. In m+ higher mastery is more preferable.

[night sorrel]

ty

[frosty canyon]

No no someone else said that, I was stating that I tried and it wasn’t guaranteed. Really killing the messenger here 😢

[mystic crater]

rofl, i'm just kidding

[spare sand]

so guys what are we nillhammering tomorrow

weapon or myth gaze

[sturdy swallow]

well prob myth gaze because apparently crafted weapons are broken

wont let me upgrade it >.<

[spare sand]

i have myth weapon

so what would be better myth gaze 298 or weapon 298

[sturdy swallow]

i would always assume weapon

[somber sky]

Cant we just keep farming the cores and upgrade both?

[sturdy swallow]

yes

i have 6 right now

[spare sand]

oh we can?

damn

[spare sand]

so day 1 i can upgrade all 3 slots?

[sturdy swallow]

yea

[shy palm]

So crafted weapon over myth gaze? Or do lfr and try to do both before raid tn!

[glossy holly]

dont assume u gonna get 2 in a day lol

u are doing weekly resets day1

weapon is still a priority to upgrade

[shy palm]

Ty

[tough portal]

This is pathetic to be doing

Damn

298 weapons? Yep spam this random piss bullshit

[kind star]

apparently cant even use on crafted weapons rn ? unless guildie lying to me

[gaunt willow]

Thank you to our North American friends for beta testing all of this for Europe..

[solid hemlock]

watch them just nerf getting the upgrade bits for our patch 😉

[weary wasp]

related to embellishments I think

[kind star]

hmmm been debating getting rid of my embelishment on weapon to move to bracers. Got it on weapon+belt atm.

[exotic zephyr]

in raid do I press WG on CD?

[lament river]

No

[spark river]

Yes if your mana allows it

[late frost]

Is crafted weapon fine for the ascendant core upgrade? Or is it better to get a myth track and run 2 armor embellishments

[thorn plover]

youll be able to upgrade more than 1 weapon, may as well send it on a crafted if you dont have a myth yet

[thorn plover]

reroll token from vault

[spark river]

Actually huge

[thorn plover]

id like 1 good piece from vault

ever

must not be spending enough real money on the game

[spark river]

I got tier shoulders

last week

was alright

[lyric surge]

I can corroborate.. I've bought almost all the pets and mounts from the shop (some in duplicate cuz bf likes mounts too) and got a myth gaze in my first vault.. you boviously need to spend more XD

[thorn plover]

ive gotten 2 usable pieces

1 was to catalyze

[grave quail]

I got a mythic heart of wind from my vault, but truthfully it feels bad to replace my heroic vaelgor's final stare because it's like a 90s cooldown I can use in m+

what are yalls thoughts on mythic heart of wind vs vaelgor in m+. In raid the heart of wind is def better

[livid hearth]

if im capped on myth crests, can i get more myth crests by turning in hero crests for myth crests?

[thorn plover]

no

[sudden rover]

so hows the droprate so far, american friends

for the upgrade thingy

[thorn plover]

about 7/hr

[sudden rover]

and u need 5 to upgrade one item to 298 correct?

[supple seal]

What are you doing to get that drop rate?

[thorn plover]

ritual sites

[chrome dagger]

can i farm as many as i want on the first day?

[thorn plover]

yes

[timber quarry]

t1 ritual sites? full clearing or straight to bosses?

[kind star]

😭

I guess I take the tokens for a socket thing...

[rain elk]

Bonus rolls all the way

[kind star]

already at 8/8 on em

[rain elk]

wat

[thorn plover]

why arent you spending them

wtf

[kind star]

no season cap

I am spending them asap

[rain elk]

They don't count towards seasonc ap

[kind star]

oh ofc I was supposed to guess that D:

it doesnt state anywhere, oh well nice ig..

[rain elk]

True, could be more informative on the shit htey implement

[haughty ibex]

is there catchup on the voidcore thingies

[kind star]

I mean ig it makes sense found it dumb u could get bonus rolls from there altho u can just buy em from the npc

[thorn plover]

yes

[kind star]

so pissed, I only have like 4 myth piece or so

[thorn plover]

@tough portal

[kind star]

time to do some NPX and send those 3 rerolls :/

[tawny delta]

Still sending first upgrade on weapon?

[thorn plover]

doesnt matter you get unlimited

[kind star]

cant even use on crafted weapon still I bet smh

[tawny delta]

nope just tried lmfao

[kind star]

ffs

poor indie company 🙁

[livid hearth]

ok so the buy 10 myth crest for 30 hero crest doesnt give more either

dammit

[tough portal]

Copycat

[thorn plover]

i wonder if they will fix it today so you can upgrade crafted weapons

imagine if blizz let us test stuff

[kind star]

Is it all crafted weapon or just ones with embelishment?

[thorn plover]

why would you have a crafted without an embellishment

[sleek blade]

cause armor embelishments are better

[sudden rover]

hahaha imagine paying a sub for this, lucky for me I buy mine with gold

[thorn plover]

i havent paid for a sub since wod, probably why my loot luck sucks

[kind star]

ofc ive got one rn was debating 2x arcanoweave on other slots instead

[thorn plover]

you dont do that til you have a myth weapon to replace

[sudden rover]

nah u just unlucky, my vaults are goated

[kind star]

ah ight

I got all tokens on my 3 toons 🔥

tooo npx we goooo

[storm portal]

Hi guys, I noticed that my healing in World of Warcraft Everbloom is very low. What could that mean? Am I positioning myself incorrectly?

[thorn plover]

is your lifebloom uptime less than 95%

link logs

[slender violet]

Anyone test if you get more ascendant voidcores after doing an upgrade? Heard they drop like manafluxes

[thorn plover]

yes

[rustic copper]

Lifebloom yourself, maintain 2 rejuvs on yourself 100% uptime, cast swiftmend on yourself on cd, run the normal build

[tame galleon]

Works on crafted weps now

[thorn plover]

with embellish?

[tame galleon]

mmhmm

[thorn plover]

nice

[snow umbra]

Are we supposed to aim for about 31% haste?

[thorn plover]

no

[urban bone]

this is prob a dumb question but the tooltip on this void shard ONLY mentions crafted weps, it works on natty ones too right?

[thorn plover]

read it again

slowly this time

[urban bone]

you are right

i am a fool

i lay contrite before thee

thanks

just got a myth wep in the vault this morning so im eyeing it up

[thorn plover]

i wonder if they stealth nerfed ritual sites

seems much worse now

[grim oxide]

Hi

How many items can you upgrade per week?

[kind star]

lets gooo Corespark multitool acquired, got 2 bonus roll left.

[fervent mica]

4 billion

[fervent mica]

Mine just kept fizzling... Will try again later I guess

[tepid orchid]

Is it better to have a crafted 285 twohander with darkmoon sigil hunt and an arcano weave lining other peice, or 289 weapon with 2 arconweaves?

[glossy holly]

short term benefits hunt on weapon and one arcanoweave embellish on other craft

[tepid orchid]

Even with the upgrade to 298?

[glossy holly]

thats something im not sure about

[tepid orchid]

Just trying to figure out if i should keep crafted

okay, thank you for the response !

[thorn plover]

Crafted gains +1 ilvl compared to non too, it's close either way

Idk what that is in stats, minimal probably

[haughty ibex]

i mean doesnt myth weapon get 4extra ilvl comapred to crafted when upgraded

[thorn plover]

No only 3

[haughty ibex]

wat ilvl do we get when upgraded

[thorn plover]

298

[haughty ibex]

oh right then

[drifting timber]

how many rerolls tokens did yall get this week?

[abstract tulip]

when does the ilvl of gear change to 298?

[drifting timber]

i only got 1.

[glossy holly]

when u do the voidcore thingy weeklies and once its completed, u gotta farm content to get 5 pieces of void thingys to upgrade weapon to 298 m track

[abstract tulip]

oh thank you i honestly had no idea i was scrolling up in the chat to see what i missed and i saw someone with a crafted weapon of 295

so i am guessing this week it unlocks, ill see if guildies know what we are supposed to do. i havnt been doing the rutual things

[glossy holly]

ritual isnt related

[thorn plover]

You don't have to do anything to do the ritual sites

It's just easy and spammable. Absolutely mind numbing boring content

They drop just like catalyst charges

[glossy holly]

u get weekly quest from the former bad guy in the void area

if u havent been completing them

[abstract tulip]

i talk to him every week i just didnt know why

i kill 3 bosses and get the crystal things

[glossy holly]

yeah its blizzard things

give quests

dont tell

surprise there is a voidcore that will boost

[abstract tulip]

i normally click icons that are purple, or big on the screen etc

[thorn plover]

Wasn't really a surprise, there were a couple posts about it

[glossy holly]

i mean, if u dont read the news related to patchs and stuff

thats something u wouldnt know honestly

[thorn plover]

That's your choice, not blizzards fault

[glossy holly]

[abstract tulip]

whelp my guild doesnt know anything about it- not suprised

its okay i will help them ❤️

[sudden rover]

the fucks a ritual site btw

everyone spamming it

[spark river]

its where we sacrifice the monks

[glossy holly]

its like a delve but without companion

an annoying place

[sudden rover]

word

[abstract tulip]

feelsbad when the best item in your vault is a heroic neck. but im wondering if im close to being able to bonus roll a better neck out of m+ dungeon but im not sure where ive spent my rolls yet. is there an addon that tracks whats left on the loot table?

[glossy holly]

i believe there is such an addon

i just dont remember the name

key something?

[slow flint]

Hello guys, I don't know if I'm the only one or if I miss something, but on Skyreach last boss, when I have to jump, i travel form just before the bird lets go of me, i often encounter the fact that my travel form fade without any reason (like i dont press anything waiting to jump) and then I fell off. Is there something special to know?

[thorn plover]

There's no add-on that goes back and looks, only if you had it from the start

[fallen compass]

Had you been casting while in the bird’s grip?

[tough portal]

The zealot periodically takes you out of travel form, yeah

[slow flint]

Yes, for a long time before he leaves me

[slow flint]

Im not sure what is zealot sorry

ok, its the trash

So, anything I can do?

[tough portal]

Press it again

Or press it right before you leap

[slow flint]

Ok i get it, thanks

[tough portal]

You can use moonkin form for it too if you wanna talent that

Just leap backwards ofc

[rustic copper]

are people farming the weapon upgrades from m+

or is there some cringe world content that is optiomal

[slow flint]

Ok, thanks, i'll try

[kind star]

oh didnt know minicc was a thing, now I can cry inside watching pugs never press their defensives 😄

[tough portal]

Ritual site spam

Low chance but 2 min runs

You get one every ~10 mins ish ime

[rustic copper]

fuck

[glossy holly]

i might do like one time a week

but i aint going to spam some dumb ritual

[rigid mirage]

wont be able to myth raid cuz guild dont want to and i suck🙁 should i pick up one of the trinkets or extra roll for myth wind trinket?

[abstract tulip]

get the simc add on and put it in the QE live website

[tough portal]

You very well may not get 5 doing your usual content

[glossy holly]

locus isnt amazing in m+ unless u chain pull so

[tough portal]

I did 2 keys and 5 LFR bosses and got 2 shards total

[abstract tulip]

and then go to "find upgrades" and make the bar to mythic quality and look to see what dungeons have upgrades that could be MORE than the vault rewards to decide if u want vault reworad or bonus roll chance

[glossy holly]

well i will see how i will fare tomorrow

[rigid mirage]

ty!

says myth wind

[abstract tulip]

yeah mythic wind is great trinket!

[glossy brook]

Oh no

[fervent path]

1st time healing Chim M I think I did pretty good 😄

[thorn plover]

Blur other names like we can't search your log lol

[fervent path]

if you search my log to look at names then thats on you being weird

🤷

[glossy brook]

Kinda real

[thorn plover]

Lol

[sudden rover]

I just did it

I now know all the names

🥷

[tough dagger]

missed a few weeks and just got 8 rerolls, is upgrading crucible -> heroic gaze better than upgrading crafted mythic weapon + heroic bracers + heroic gloves -> mythic? Unsure which way to spend these tokens

[whole horizon]

its like putting a sign on your front door that says "This door is locked"

[formal fjord]

rofl

[whole horizon]

youre just asking someone to prove to you thats not true

[sudden rover]

yeah I mean the tentation was too strong

[sudden rover]

I'm not understanding, why would you upgrade heroic pieces?

[glossy holly]

if u are referring to bonus rolling at raids, then its not worth

u use 2 rolls per attempt in raid so its much better value to try rolling in m+ 10+

although its somewhat all about luck to get right pieces but for starters NPX dungeon got solid options for few items

[tough dagger]

makes sense, it's just that I'm 282 and mythic in most slots, the crucible is my worst piece by far but I'm not sure how much HPS upgrading 2/3 heroic pieces to mythic compares to upgrading crucible to gaze

[molten gull]

eh, depends what you have already. ive found im already at the point where im not chasing any m+ items and my gear is limited by crests, not drops

if you're gearing a fresh alt, then definitely M+ is the way to roll

but if you've been playing since the start of the season, then there is a good chance you're not looking for upgrades in m+

i mean the person you're responding to says they missed a few weeks, so it is likely the smart play for them to roll in m+

[glossy holly]

crucible to gaze trinket should really be good upgrade though, but u dont necessarily need to roll coins there

hc-mythic chim, 2 attempts per week

3 if u do normal too

[fervent path]

please they got families man...

[molten gull]

I wish bonus rolls in heroic raid were myth track. It would be equivalent to bonus rolling in a +10 to get myth track imo. Most people will never even kill most mythic bosses so they'll be locked out of bis gear for the whole season

[tough dagger]

yeah I truly hate pugging raid so I'll likely never kill mythic chimaerus

[molten gull]

I dont even go for AOTC pugging anymore. I just value my time higher than waiting around with crap groups to prog bosses that I already understand

Why the hell would I want to wait 2+ hours to try to kill heroic dragons, for example. Such a waste of time

[glossy holly]

well i can kind of agree with ''farm'' bosses not being progressed again

however, pugs are pugs

u cant expect them to be guild raids that does shit properly

[fervent path]

I believe theres no issue to throwing shards on HC Gaze right? if I already upgraded the Myth pieces I can

[hearty coral]

myth chimmy is pretty easy to pug now

[fervent path]

ye but you gotta like

drop the thing

[molten gull]

yea but my point is, if I can climb in m+ and that is my preferred game mode, then why punish players like me that dont have a schedule conducive to raiding with a guild?

[glossy holly]

2 coins per attempt

just do mythic chim

[hearty coral]

oh you mean the upgrade

you get infinite of those

so yes

its ok

you mean the upgrade not the reroll right?

just to clarify

[rustic copper]

expects to have equal gear for doing a +10

[glossy holly]

wording is definitely confusing here

[molten gull]

is this a bug? I can't imagine they wanted ppl to be able to get +30 ilvl in one week?

[rustic copper]

you are lucky you get myth items from m+ at all

[hearty coral]

do you mean reroll or the upgrade thing

[hearty coral]

remember turbo boost

you could theoretically get more then

this is just 3 slots

[whole horizon]

sounds like cope. if you dont do the content you can't get the gear, game has always been that way.

[fervent path]

upgrade thingy magic

[molten gull]

'lucky' because thats how it has always been, not because it makes sense. there is an extremely popular game mode with infinite scaling. it really doesn't make sense that you can't acquire top gear from that to continue to excel in that game mode

[whole horizon]

giving myth track gear in vault is bc they take pity on you

[glossy holly]

at least u are not ''forced'' to raid

[hearty coral]

thats ok to spend them then yes because you will get more

[rustic copper]

it is not how it's always been

[kind star]

alright got ring and weapon from nexus with bonus rolls

[rustic copper]

m+ has been slightly better every tier for as long as I have been playing

[kind star]

that was 12 was barely timed o.o

[fervent path]

nice cause didnt get M gaze this week so i grabbed hc one from vault

[molten gull]

I mean about getting locked out of specific gear

[gentle charm]

guys i need help on a vault https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/wvqofebxkkjs The trinket seems like the best choice but I have to invest max crests in it vs getting like an extra bonus roll/socket

and I am dying for crests rn

[glossy holly]

what are ur current trinkets

[whole horizon]

it looks like your only vault choices are myth heart of wind and a heroic belt? and thats your #3 trinket?

this isnt even a question

take the myth heart of wind and farm the crests

[gentle charm]

no, heart is better than litany that I currently have

oh

I see what you mean

[kind star]

ah frick I got hyped was wrong ring from nexus

[molten gull]

myth heart WITH leech? what you waiting for

[glossy holly]

take HoW, the difference in hps between trinkets arent even 0,5% nonmaxed

[gentle charm]

I just feel like I've spent like a million crests on all my trinkets

[whole horizon]

well you only needed to upgrade 2 of them so

[molten gull]

Does the turboboost voidforge w/e its called change anything about myth of the dawn achieve? I'm like 0.4ilvl short of it rn, but if I upgrade my wep I'll get over. That should work, right?

[glossy holly]

well HoW and gaze m track will be last crest u will ever upgrade

[whole horizon]

its hero of the dawn, you just need 276 in each slot

has there ever been an achievement for myth crests?

[molten gull]

No myth of the dawn is what I'm interested in

yes there is

285 average ilvl

[gentle charm]

its per slot, not total iirc

[molten gull]

its per slot for everything except myth

or at least that was what it was in previous seasons

looks like it should work just fine tho

[whole horizon]

they've never done it like that

[molten gull]

yes they have. why are you responding about things you dont know

[whole horizon]

there are even macros you can use to check which slots still need to be upgraded

implying that all of them need to be upgraded to a specific ilvl

[molten gull]

dude just look it up before you argue your point

[fervent path]

its true I got that achiev last week

its just 285 avg item lvl

[whole horizon]

i did look it up, thats why im arguing

[spark river]

are you sure about that

[whole horizon]

im reading it right now

[molten gull]

confidently incorrect

[whole horizon]

im happy to be proven wrong though, im just trying to get to a solution for you

but by all means, if you already know

[fervent path]

i wont entertain your negativity 🙂

[fervent path]

.

[spark river]

[molten gull]

I was just asking if there was any weird voidforge interaction. But was a stupid question I'm sure it will work as expected

[half star]

I don't think anyone knows for sure since it's a niche situation, but I would assume it bolsters your average IL same as everything else unless it is bugged

[molten gull]

Yeah.. I can't farm the shards or w/e until later tonight but I can report in

I'm 0.4ilvl short so I'll use that upgrade to carry me over the finish line

[half star]

Ya I would really assume that would work, no reason it shouldn't outside of patch day shenanigans 🤪

[molten gull]

Yeah I know... this xpac you can never trust anything lol

[half star]

Yep lol

[molten gull]

but I wanna hit that so I can quickly gear an aug 😹

[tough portal]

It works fine for your ilvl count yes

I was 284

Upgraded weapon

Got achieve

[molten gull]

hell yeah, thanks!

[whole horizon]

where's my myth achievement for TWW S1

[fervent path]

there was one just i dont think for TWW S1

this is the one for this season

[tough portal]

The achieve unlocks the discount for alts so maybe that didnt exist the first season

[fervent path]

this was the season 2 one for TWW

[whole horizon]

yeah i see it now, i had to scroll to find it 😒

had to check my ilvl from that season, i got it with some 626 pieces so i guess its always been like that

[fervent path]

kind of OCD that they wont settle for a naming scheme

every season its in a different order and wording

[terse sparrow]

has QE been updated with the void crest upgrades up to 296 yet?

[glossy holly]

QE got it long time ago

298

[glossy osprey]

is it better to upgrade our crafted 2H or use a 289 myth weapon. For example, the one from Nexus

[glossy holly]

its quite small difference because we are talking about 3 ilvl difference