resto

[smoky sail]

Bearweaving?

[spark river]

makes zero sense to not give us access to thrash through cat

or buff the damn swipe

[tough portal]

Removing thrash from cat was one of the choices blizzard has made

[thorn plover]

Maybe season 2 they give us a tier set that actually FORCES us to be in cat form. Imagine the tears

[fleet jewel]

next tier set will buff ironbark

[thorn plover]

Lol

[fervent mica]

in b4 swiftmend puts a 4 second ironbark on the target

[fleet jewel]

why couldnt apex or tier have had rejuv or regrowth

1 day

[smoky sail]

nah we getting lifebloom tierset next

[fleet jewel]

we get back double lifebloom

[tough portal]

Our apex isnt even the worst designed out of the druid class

We're eating good bro

Everbloom is fine

[spark river]

guardian and mw spamming keys apexless is definitely one of the things blizzard has done

[thorn plover]

Apex is fine, tier set sucks

[fleet jewel]

[thorn plover]

Bear is running no apex no tier

Resto running no 4 piece, was running no apex

[fleet jewel]

bear no apex in raid too?

[thorn plover]

They're struggling a bit with the balance around apex for sure

No in raid they play something else

[fleet jewel]

[stable verge]

Yeah tbf I'm very much looking forward to season 2 to get rid of that Godawful tierset

[smoky sail]

surely we get some crazy apex tierset next tier

[fervent mica]

i kind of expect them to rework apex again

[stable verge]

Well only if it's not something passive actually

[stable verge]

What for though

[fervent mica]

something that is possible to balance for raid/m+

[trail crown]

Do you guys have any recommended streamers or YouTubers that recently posted educational videos about playing resto in M+?

[thorn plover]

No one really talks through their decision-making in m+ videos, but vickman or jdotb post or have vods.
If you hear vickman talk about 31% haste ignore any of that. Rest is fine

Vickman yaps a lot, might say something useful idk

[velvet cloak]

I'm added as a healer on Vanguard mythic, and I don't feel like mana is an issue at all. What would the best swap for MS be? Liveliness, embrace, or something else?

[thorn plover]

Livliness

[velvet cloak]

That's what I thought yeah, just saw a lot of people run embrace on logs

[thorn plover]

They're maybe close, but you won't be casting WG on cd

Paladins is a fun fight for us. Definitely my favorite to heal

Big numbers go brrr

[velvet cloak]

Last I healed this tier it was kotg where it was sm and wg on CD, how does wildstalker use wg?

[thorn plover]

You use it as much as you can without going oom

[velvet cloak]

Hmm alright

[thorn plover]

I think I ended up about 4 cpm on paladins

Ended fight at 0 mana

[velvet cloak]

Thanks for the help

[trail crown]

Thanks, will look into it!

[thorn plover]

Some good resto druid kills on YouTube. Vrocas, torty. I have a recent one with the current raid build too

[trail crown]

First vid I see is 50 min of “Midnight Druid Guide l Explanations, Gameplay Commentary”, should be good.

[kind star]

Dropped ND for 2 tv not sure if better kinda feels the same ish ig

[thorn plover]

In m+?

[trail crown]

I’m not focusing on raids due to two young kids atm, so m+ is my focus for now

[kind star]

Yeah wanted to try moving some points

[thorn plover]

Just make sure you take it with a grain of salt and ask questions. And ignore anything about 31% haste.
YouTube guides are outdated before you ever watch it

[spark river]

i think you need to repeat it once again

he might go for 31%

[velvet cloak]

We've had 1.5 nights so far, I think I'm doing alright

Just wanted some clarifications on questions in my mind

[thorn plover]

👍 great work

[kind star]

haste caps at 31% right ? 😂

is that what he said or something idr

[velvet cloak]

The absorb healing specifically is hilarious

With a few cheeky sm regrowths

[thorn plover]

SM ns regrowth yourself deletes the absorb

Lol

Double rejuv your absorb takers before it starts, regrowth them all, then regrowth spam yourself. Gg

[velvet cloak]

Oh yeah, the WS choice node of 4% healing received or 35% regrowth self-healing

I see 4% is most popular

[thorn plover]

I tried both, I don't think the 35% one is needed.

[smoky sail]

you dont go to DR for haste at that %

[spark river]

you are not pressing your buttons sir

[velvet cloak]

Huh?

[spark river]

42 overall cpm

on a resto druid

is very bad

[velvet cloak]

Define "very bad"

Because I'm shitting out hps

[thorn plover]

Should be over 50

[velvet cloak]

Is it "very bad" or is it "it's alright but room for improvement"?

[smoky sail]

is the cpm formula Casts - germination casts?

or something that right

[thorn plover]

You have to take out the fake germ casts ya

[smoky sail]

so this

[spark river]

you are not shitting out hps

you re at 160k

which is low on this fight

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3zQj9TZ8N26q7dMb?fight=29&type=healing

this is me from last night

i just started paladins prog

[kind star]

we doing another week of heroic to try and down lu'ra 🙁 we will do chim m tho ig

[gusty quarry]

Hey. I’m new here to resto Druid well ish. For mythic plus who should I put my symbiotic relationship on?

[fervent mica]

squishy guy

[kind star]

mage/aug the go-to I think

[thorn plover]

Is your other druid afk

[spark river]

he rerolled

hes a dps player

in a casual guild

so you get an idea

[thorn plover]

Your monk and other druid are full afk. (My logs look the same 🤣)

It's ok I get it

[spark river]

i feel like thats the standard at this level

[thorn plover]

I think I finished the fight at 210k hps, and had a couple big misplays

[spark river]

looked mostly ok from the pov ive watched

[thorn plover]

I straight up missed a tranq, and my convoke timings got messed up somewhere near the end

I really want to drop healers for fights but management isn't interested

[velvet cloak]

yeah that's what happens when you 5 heal instead of 6 heal I suppose

[spark river]

why are you 6 healing

with 280 ilvl

[velvet cloak]

Because if dps isn't an issue it's safer

[spark river]

Me too kinda want to have some fun

its not any safer because people are dying to mechanics

not to hps check

It was safer when people didnt have ilvl

[velvet cloak]

Thank you for the input, I will take it into consideration

[fervent mica]

it was safer when better players were progging it you mean

[spark river]

if you run 6 heals no one is pressing buttons

everyone is going to sit at 100k

[thorn plover]

Sorry for bashing your guildies sola. Please bash mine in return

[spark river]

no worries

im toxic after all

[thorn plover]

Don't change

[lament river]

At the risk of being annoying, I’ll ask again. What are your preferences — DBM, LittleWigs, or Exwind Boss? I actually think DBM does okay, but I really wish DBM had that timeline feature.

[silk ice]

Bigwigs because size matters

[obsidian bridge]

hey guys, first night on lura. Anything I could potentially do to eek out more crystal healing? I was playing around with lifeblooming + rejuv one in regrowth spam. but I seem to not be doing as much as other druid logs.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2yaHt3mqrwcN9znh

would love any input

[icy delta]

Guys what do you think the 1% cutoff will be this season? (Not the title but the mount)

Struggling to heal my 16's. Its like 30 runs to time 1 smh

[lament river]

Im looking at lors for Dragon bosses in voidspire - is there a reason alot of druids dont convoke into tranq there ?

[trail crown]

Would you guys say its a bad idea to work my way into resto M+ gameplay coming from balance with the DoC spec? Its what got me interested in resto in the first place, but maybe it will harm my learning curve of resto a bit now that I’m thinking about it

[storm kettle]

The healing events in this fight are very short, it's more of a survival check than a heal check in most cases. So I'm not sure there's a good spot for convoke + tranq

[kind star]

I havent really tried anything else than DBM but got a few guildies praising bigwigs

[potent juniper]

Big wigs to me is more customizable but both work just fine

[kind star]

might try it to compare

idk the mechanics/dmg events enough and just react to my DBM yelling AOE most fo the time 😂

[tough portal]

Hard to tell, historically this damage to heal conversion hasn't been a resto druid design space, more so Mistweaver and Discipline, but the devs have decided to alienate the existing playerbases of lots of specs lately to flip those designs on their heads so who knows

Right now you'll just do generally a worse by going DOC unless you're doing content you find trivial / are very aware of healing and the timing of mechanics and won't get caught out spamming Starfire when you shouldn't

[trail crown]

Alright thanks. I figured it might be easier to do resto + moonkin damage than resto + cat dmg coming from a long time balance player

[tough portal]

Well DOC doesnt implicate in picking one form of damage or another, necessarily

You can do damage whichever way you like

[fervent mica]

its fine to do damage that way, just keep the points in healing stuff instead of doc

[trail crown]

This 15s burst + giga heal window on AoE packs is a feel-good thing though

[spark river]

Its not going to feel so good when you get to a point where you need to heal

[trail crown]

Yeah agree, so far I’m just filling the vault with +10’s as resto, so it’s not super intense I suppose

[tough portal]

To each their own mate

Shit blows, I refuse

[trail crown]

Yeah it’s actually the conclusion I got from it as well, I’m going to play the other build and learn resto the ‘proper’ way

[glossy holly]

maybe it could be used if starfire didnt have such long cast time

[thorn plover]

Probably 18s. I think 18s is .7% rn

Turbo boost won't push as much io as in the past. But probably a key level

[thorn plover]

Timeline like blizz timeline? It does

[thorn whale]

Isn’t it already past 18 resil

It’s 3667 in EU rn

So it’s more likely 19 resil

[thorn plover]

It could be. I last checked 2 weeks ago

So it might be 20s for 1%

Or atleast some 20s

[thorn whale]

Which is kinda crazy haha

[versed stone]

more likely all 20 depending on how long the season is

when they show the mount the sale bonanza will begin

[thorn whale]

No shot - all 20’s is like 3890

It will not rise 230 score

[versed stone]

it won't rise 2.5 pts per day? you sure?

[thorn whale]

How could I be sure

But I don’t think so no

[versed stone]

that's my point

you can't be sure, but you can look at it rising 5-10pts per day now

before actual sales even started

[thorn whale]

There was a 344 difference between title and top 1% last season

Do you think title cutoff will be 4200?

[versed stone]

all that data is useless

[thorn whale]

No it's not XD

[versed stone]

there was no incentive to push or buy 1%

[thorn plover]

Turbo boost usually is about 3-400 io? It won't be half that this season I think

[versed stone]

so you can't compare 0.1% to 1% like that

[thorn whale]

I mean you don't mind making baseless calculations so

[thorn plover]

Depends how much bis comes from new raid

[thorn whale]

How many are buying boosts?

[thorn plover]

I'm selling 16s so I can only assume people are buying higher than that

[versed stone]

point me to any calculations I made xd

[thorn whale]

Assumptions then?

[versed stone]

yes I made assumptions based on data from this season

you're trying to compare and correlate 1% and 0.1% difference from seasons where 1% didn't matter

so it's useless data

[thorn whale]

There is 0% chance that 1% will be resil 20's

Legit none

People do not have hands

[versed stone]

ok :)

[thorn whale]

Have you played 20's

And then compare that to level of groups that are PROGGING 18's right now

[grizzled seal]

We have multiple groups going for 1% in the guild now

In the previous season none of them went beyond 3k for the achievement

You will need to see the trends after we get weapon and trinket ilvl

[thorn whale]

But are we suggesting that it will go up 300 io, when title didn't even go up by 300 in the span of 3 months last season

And that was WITH turbo boost

[grizzled seal]

Yeah not suggesting the full 300

[spark river]

last season was way harder than this imo

[grizzled seal]

But it will be closer to 0.1 than before is my assumption

[thorn plover]

Do we have full loot table for sporefall yet

[tough portal]

Scaling is the same % tho

Oh dude theres sporefall loot

[grizzled seal]

All items drop random stats

[tough portal]

Its not just boost on weapon

[grizzled seal]

It's hecking epic

It's 2-3 items I think, isn't it?

[thorn whale]

How much ilvl was turbo boost?

I forget

[tough portal]

And some random bit of whatever from the buffs system

[smoky sail]

2 tracks

so 7 max

[thorn whale]

Yeah that's a shit ton of stamina

[tough portal]

They're doing so many random tiny systems that all dont do anything and still come out half baked

[kind star]

whats huh turbo boost 🤔

[lament river]

Can it be combined with DBM ? So i Will hear the voice from dbm and Warmings

[main timber]

To get in early, the Sporefall trinket is good not great

[thorn whale]

That is what might increase the Top 1% by a lot yeah

[thorn plover]

So every item from sporefall will be bis if it rolls the right stats

[thorn plover]

Yes, it's an option in dbm to display timeline, bars, or both

[fervent mica]

even with decent stats the extra ilvl probably wins

[thorn plover]

Yep

[grizzled seal]

I wonder how bonus rolls will even work there

Because presumably all the loot is warbound

[lament river]

Can you remember where exalty im in DBM atm and cant find the time line options

[thorn plover]

It's like midnight setup wizard or something

On the main page

[thorn plover]

It's not anymore

Atleast not on ptr

Not warbound, but it's 298 ilvl now

There would be some absolute degen shit going on if it was warbound

[stable verge]

Any notable trinket in there ?

[thorn plover]

Voulk just said it's good, not great

[stable verge]

hmm alright

[fervent mica]

wasn't it announced as warbound?

[thorn plover]

I don't think blizz ever said anything about it? They changed it on the last PTR build to be non warbound, higher ilvl

[grizzled seal]

Which slots were they again

There was one helm

[stable verge]

Ohye that's sorta random

[lament river]

according to this i can find the time line, but can you make DBM look like the timeline "bar" blizzarrd have (like the old weak aura)

[stable verge]

well probably in appearance or behaviour right ?

[whole horizon]

a timeline and a bar are 2 distinctly separate designs, so i have no clue what theyre talking about

[stable verge]

He wants dbm timeline to look like this

afaik

[lament river]

Excalty

But is it possibel?

[thorn plover]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/sporefall-raid-loot-changed-now-drops-highest-season-1-item-level-loot-381533?utm_source=discord-webhook

[whole horizon]

yeah thats just a timeline

blizz default ui has it

[thorn plover]

Click core and Gui, it's on there I'm sure

[glossy holly]

the first party wipe in the hands of doc druid

[thorn plover]

Yeah you don't need to do any of that it's built right into dbm

[lament river]

That menu is about voice

[full wyvern]

Competing with other druid specs in m+ now, feeldbadman

[thorn plover]

K well click through the tabs, find something about midnight setup or something.

It will open a popup

Then have a drop down for bars, timeline, both

[whole horizon]

its not so bad tbh

[full wyvern]

Yeah, nice to see everyones got a place now. But I wanted to push a couple more resi tiers and now bears have taken over 😄

[whole horizon]

ive been playing feral the whole season so its the same as ever, both dps specs have it so much worse

god forbid anyone wants to play balance

[full wyvern]

One tricks exist 😄

[glossy holly]

boomies really in difficult spot this season

[stable verge]

God might but so does everyone

fuck 'em chicken

[glossy holly]

fabulous chickens u mean

[stable verge]

Couldn't tell you, I have legit not seen one balance druid in mm+ this season so far

Just like devastion aug, what the fuck is that spec, it doesn't exist

[glossy holly]

i actually saw exactly one devastation spec

[whole horizon]

you even called it devastation aug, proof that evoker doesnt exist. the class is just aug.

[glossy holly]

i was legit, what the hell, aug doing high dps now

[stable verge]

Lmao you're right

[glossy holly]

[stable verge]

god bless him, cause nobody else will

[thorn plover]

Type /dbm midwizard

[viscid burrow]

Guys what is our best dps build for 12s and such, i just want to farm crests faster. tnx

[thorn plover]

Just keep your DPS alive and spam moonfire

Don't over think it

[stable verge]

Convince your tank to do MDI pull, probably

Otherwise.. lookup call of the elder druid build I guess

[whole horizon]

best dps build is having 3600+ io so you can queue with people capable of sleepwalking through a +12 in 15 minutes

find a decent tank and a dps and queue into somebody else's Skyreach and just carry them

[stable verge]

Hell ye

[kind star]

we can travel form wildcharge to skip the wind part in skyreach riiiiight?

[stable verge]

Yes

[kind star]

coool didnt wanna try and miserably fail

[whole horizon]

you basically just wild charge off the ledge, some people jump and delay it too much

[kind star]

oh I mean after Rukhran

[stable verge]

Oh that

Well yes of course

[kind star]

I never got to try the tech on last boss as people always hard focus the bird

[thorn plover]

I just go travel form and run around the proper way and usually get to the top while everyone else is still trying to skip or dying to trying to skip

[stable verge]

For a compromise you can run around and instead of taking the interior turn you leap to the stairs

[kind star]

people be struggling hard in my runs haha I just do the proper way yeah

[somber sky]

You can even take the travel form to take someone with you and skip for both of you

Or kill you both i guess

[whole horizon]

yeah thats what i mean

if you jump and delay wild charge by 0.5s you miss the ledge

if you jump+charge in the same key press you make it

[daring ore]

Hey guys! I’m trying to improve my raiding since I’m healing this season. I’ve noticed my HPS is way lower than it should be. I know healing depends a lot on the group, but comparing my logs with other Resto Druids, my everbloom is healing too much less than everyone else's. I feel like I'm missing something. Any advice? Maybe my lifebloom uptime is too low or I'm prioritizing the wrong targets? Ty in advance<3

[whole horizon]

the skip is really easy it just takes consistency and i think the timing is a big reason ppl suck at it

[spark river]

logs, no screenshots

[whole horizon]

idk i can see 42% lb uptime

[spark river]

But even from the screenshot that lb uptime is something

48% dont lower it!

[whole horizon]

oh true

[daring ore]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/dun-modr/korae?metric=hps&spec=Restoration&class=Druid&difficulty=4
You can see all of them here

[smoky sail]

regrowth more, rejuv less, switfmend more, lifebloom uptime up

[thorn plover]

Sola taking forever to type push your buttons more

[thorn plover]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

[stable verge]

I mean just that will fix 95% of it

[thorn plover]

Read this. You're doing all of the things

[daring ore]

In the past, Lifebloom usage depended on the situation: on yourself for more overall healing, or on the tank if they were taking heavy damage. Who do you guys usually put it on now?

[thorn plover]

Self always

[stable verge]

Ourself

[spark river]

Looking at that belo ren hc and there are a lot fundamental mistakes.

Lb uptime is only at 17% which is a huge problem. Lb is tied to our apex and efflo and its very important to have it close to 100%. Get lifebloomalert to help you out.

Swiftmend cpm is at 2.7. It is very important to cast swiftmend on cd and use soul of the forest buff on rejuv. Have a lifebloom and 2x rejuv on yourself and extend them with swiftmend because of the verdant infusion talent.

You need to learn to ramp properly. At this point, you re just spamming rejuvenations. Ramp to 12 abundance (even more rejuvs if bigger damage) and spam regrowth until you fall down to 6 and cycle. Its very important to get the most out of our abundance because regrowths hit hard during this window and are basically free.

You wasted a whole ramp on wrath. 20 casts of wrath are not needed. Use those globals on healing.

You missed out on 1 usage of convoke, tranq and innervate. Your tranq needs bigger ramps.

[smoky sail]

efflorescence is always on the target with lifebloom now

[stable verge]

All hots on our ass, swiftmend and keep it up for maximum bloom healing

[spark river]

wowa bugging out a bit

First time I see everbloom do 2% in a log

[daring ore]

You guys helped me a lot to understand the mistakes. I’ll work on fixing them. Thanks everyone, you're the best!

[thorn plover]

Come back with logs after! We love seeing improvement

[spark river]

Also dont use wild growth after swiftmend

That is not a thing anymore

[thorn plover]

WG before sm so if it ends up on you, you can extend it

[daring ore]

got it

[stable verge]

Try to position yourself to have as many people in the efflo as well, since it will be on your feet

[spark river]

wrath -> wild growth -> starsurge -> 2x rejuv -> wrath -> convoke -> cat form -> bite

[kind star]

surely this week ill do better and get a decent SM cpm

[spark river]

this is the craziest

timeline

i ve seen lol

[spark river]

alright by looking at the log

im banning you from using wrath and starsurge

use regrowth instead

[smoky sail]

isnt there an argument to also use mouseover WG to target yourself

[thorn plover]

Doesn't matter who you target, it doesn't go on your target

It can go on your target, it's not guaranteed

[smoky sail]

i see

[daring ore]

Which log are you looking? When things like that happen, it's because there’s practically nothing to heal, and since my raid have low damage... I just DPS. That way, I also get some mana back. Actually, if you look closely, many of my logs are high on damage, not healing. Even so, I knew I was doing something wrong with my heals

[plain steeple]

Personally you need more healing in raids than any tanks.
And you will do more Everbloom healing with it overall. That’s a win/win.

[plain steeple]

If you don’t press healing spells you shouldn’t wonder why you have low healing output.
Replace the dmg casts with regrowths if you wanna heal more.
You can use a hotw with bite every 2min for mana though.

[kind star]

gotta pad that overhealing meter then

[plain steeple]

See it as a preparation for the next incoming dmg to the raid.

Never stop Casting.

[kind star]

why does he have starsurge for raid tho weirdge

[onyx trail]

very good bit

[daring ore]

I really like it because it's an instant spell, and it helps me recover mana

So, less reju, more spam regrowth, 100% lifebloom (ON ME!), and more uses of swiftmend. Got it

[plain steeple]

It gives less mana back than wrath.

[daring ore]

I used all times lifebloom on tank like the past..... XD im just stupid. (Obviously, you can see I’m forgetting to use it a lot now that I'm not running WeakAuras).

[daring ore]

I'll modify it and remove it ^^"

[kind star]

I dont really dps tbh other than hotw maybe if I pressed wg too much ill wrath abit

[daring ore]

Thanks again for the tips. I'm sure tonight will go better in the raid ^^

If it’s not too embarrassing, I’ll send a screenshot of the healing XD

[plain steeple]

Don’t do that.
Wild growth less and press more Regrowth.

Spamming wrath barely gives you any mana back.

It’s a waste of time and hps to spam wraths for mana.

[thorn plover]

LifebloomAlert (or others that are similar) if you're forgetting to press lifebloom

Also set up reminder sounds for swiftmend and other spells if you need them. The in game CDM does this fairly well, except for lifebloom

[kind star]

yeah I try not to really do that still learning

[weary moss]

Is it a HPS loss to WG basically on CD? Or is it just an issue to do that if you have mana problems?

[kind star]

I just dont really know when the damage events happen in raid so im kinda yolo blanketing/ramping

[daring ore]

tbh i think i need it. Game CDM its shit. Need Weakauras back!

[smoky sail]

you kinda go oom if you perma press it

[spark river]

mana

[radiant geyser]

CN WoW brainrot of the month

[spark river]

dont give dorki ideas

[long siren]

[silk ice]

We should Beary it in the ground

[frosty canyon]

I'm assuming we should use or Ilvl boost on our 2h Wep for value, mines crafted and I was thinking about using it on my MGaze instead, right now is where I realize I should just sim it

[main timber]

The weapon is the only real choice

[frosty canyon]

Thanks Voulk, I think I'll try and farm Final Grade for the extra ilvls first then

[fleet jewel]

can we upgrade items in the same slot for free afterwards? like with crests?

[main timber]

Nobody really has any idea how the system works in full

[rustic copper]

You should do nexus point over aa

[main timber]

They never let it be tested

[thorn plover]

I tried to test it on PTR but it was fully time gated and there wasn't enough weeks to unlock it

Great work by blizz on that one

[plain marsh]

Everything gonna work properly as expected on Tuesday right

[main timber]

I don't even know if you can use the thing on offhands yet

There's a chance this just globally forces 2 handers and kills shield enjoyers

[thorn plover]

Originally they made it sound like the upgrade items drop like catalyst charges

[plain marsh]

[thorn plover]

Idk if that changed

[frosty canyon]

Why is that?

[main timber]

Yeah you can try and decrypt their announcement message, but we have seen that those are not usually 100% accurate even when we know how the content works

[thorn plover]

I don't think THEY know how the content works

[frosty canyon]

They kinda just wing it

[thorn plover]

There will be some game breaking bug where you can upgrade some specific item and it completely breaks

Almost a guarantee lol

Some hero time walking item or something

[frosty canyon]

"Oh we didn't think you would use the upgrade on EVERY weapon"

[kind star]

NPX you have multiple good items there

[rustic copper]

It has an equivalent weapon and it has 2 other bis items we really want

[kind star]

weapons,boots,ring and chest pmuch.

[frosty canyon]

Ah fair, I already have crafted chest and the ring. Good to know I can run either though

[rustic copper]

Both chest and ring are better than crafted so you’ll want them

[frosty canyon]

sorry, I meant I have crafted chest, and Omission. I can see it makes sense to run it more than AA now though

[wary belfry]

Sometimes they just lie

Maybe it was true when they said it

But by time its live it just... doesnt work the way they say

Can't even trust patch notes until its in the game

[glossy holly]

yea bonus roll disaster was pretty nice surprise

[stable verge]

All these extra loot systems makes me feel bad about crest cap though

[runic geyser]

hey guys with the gameplay to keep all hot on maximum target in M+ i have some trouble with mana sometime. Do u have some advices? Ty

[shut barn]

whats the verdict on passings seasosn vs nature's splendor talent for natures swiftness, specifically on vanguard?

[frosty canyon]

Don't use WG on cooldown, increase SwiftMend APM, know when damage is incoming so you aren't wasting mana ramping for nothing

[gentle nova]

XD

[spark river]

i hate reading ramping in a key context

[frosty canyon]

fair, I was trying to be brief

don't rejuve all the time because you don't know when damage is coming and you're just guessing*

[runic geyser]

i usually maintain all my dot on tank

and with Pick up there is a lot of random dommage that's why i used to be use my hot everyone all the time

probably wrong way^^

[frosty canyon]

ah, that's the problem you're using dots instead of hots (jk), if you're using swiftmend enough you'll have good coverage tbh

[kind star]

was debating if I wanted to make a damage over time joke.. refrained from it

[frosty canyon]

random spikey damage, SM -> NS -> Regrowth, but you're not wrong we are much better in coordinated groups

[frosty canyon]

also if you link logs I'm sure someone better than me will have something to say

[livid hearth]

do we unlock the weapon and trinket upgrade thing next week even tho we did 3/3 quest this week?

[thorn plover]

No one really knows

We think so

[drifting pollen]

hi guys, any working " innervate me" wa?

or addon

[spark river]

you can put it in the note for your dps druid friend

[spark river]

i was fully expecting something like this to happen

[silk ice]

Are you going to your bear arc?

[silk ice]

https://raider.io/mythic-plus-runs/season-mn-1/24363609-20-windrunner-spire
one of them didn’t have their 4 set

Not that it affected dps

[spark river]

2 of them are 287.7 lol

[thorn plover]

Bear doesn't run 4 set

[silk ice]

The one at 283 topped dps

[kind star]

no 4 set and no apex laaaame

[gentle nova]

The apex is shit now

[kind star]

oh idk what theirs even is I just find it lame they made those apex talents and some classes dont even use em.

[gentle nova]

Also 4 points somewhere else is too good for a lot of specs

They should just make apex points separate from talents

[kind star]

ik MW also apexless for m+

[stable verge]

Well now I get the bear meme image lmao

[thorn plover]

I can't believe bear survived the tuning pass tbh.
Im tanking 18s and 19s with no experience tanking this season, in my resto gear, with garbage champion trinkets and a hero weapon

[grizzled seal]

Lmao

[gentle nova]

It didnt only survived it

It got buffed

[kind star]

this expac tank balances is very scuffed af

[thorn plover]

All balance is scuffed

[grizzled seal]

How are they killing bosses with this shit

[thorn plover]

Probably worst it's been in a while (I don't have data to back this up)

[grizzled seal]

I assume they just pull a ton of trash on top just to make it efficient

[thorn plover]

Bosses take a tad longer but they can pull 3x the trash you normally would and it looks like it's often into the boss

You still do almost 100k ST as bear

[grizzled seal]

Yeah figured

[gaunt willow]

Tuning is very odd indeed and so many Apex talents are awful / not taken across classes and builds

[grizzled seal]

Why is not taking apex that bad?

[kind star]

I hope we get a better tier set

[gaunt willow]

It should be the central talent around the class play

[grizzled seal]

It should be tuned to be competitive but tuning it to be an auto pick is in my opinion worse

[kind star]

its just they make new talents/mechanic for the new expansion id have tought they'd balance it so everyone wanted to pick those.

[grizzled seal]

I heavily disagree

[gaunt willow]

I don’t mind resto Druid at the moment and quite like Everbloom but something does still feel off with the class

[thorn plover]

They shouldn't have given them a special name, shoulda just added the 4 points somewhere in the tree

Apex is a garbage system

[gaunt willow]

Watched a shaman pugging a +19 Windrunner and it was incredibly chill and low CPM

Compared to Druid

[grizzled seal]

We have hero talents that already give way too much power

[thorn plover]

Yeah rsham is strong and incredibly easy

[grizzled seal]

You know all of this is getting removed eventually

They can't just keep adding points every expac

[thorn plover]

Back to mop talent trees

[grizzled seal]

Unironically

[kind star]

noooooo

[thorn plover]

Or they give us poe talent trees

[kind star]

ok then give me mop talent trees xD

[gaunt willow]

Please don’t

[kind star]

ig in the end would end up the same-ish

[gaunt willow]

Poe talents trees make me sick

[kind star]

if they give us skull bash ill take mop talent tree 😂

[solid hemlock]

ugh i hate trying to get to 3k lol. One run smooth, next one absolute mayhem

[kind star]

swapped to running with guild much better 😄 couldnt even time 12s rofl

[solid hemlock]

blood dk said 'going big' we have no lust, pulls entire first room in npx.

[spark river]

its the feature of the expansion so its stupid if it isnt chosen

[trail oasis]

is there a way of using qelive to find which dungs to reroll on or do we have to use our own brains

[kind star]

Best one is npx

[spark river]

check where your biggest upgrades are

upgrade finder on qelive

[kind star]

Weapon,ring,boots and chest.

[trail oasis]

ty

[solid hemlock]

Wish any rings or trinkets would drop for me. But eventually the bonus rolls will have to give one

qe still saying I should be using crucible of erratic energies :S

[proven phoenix]

yeah that trinket is very stong

strong even

[thorn plover]

Stronk

[hearty scarab]

Do you think apex talents being outside of the tree like hero talents would be better ?

I think they didnt want us to have multiple talent trees, we already have 3 kinda

[glossy holly]

well this is likely to stay until this TWW-midnight-next expansion story is complete

[hearty scarab]

Its a tough job to balance ur Apex talents just good enough to be used but not too god so it becomes like a huge part of ur gameplay.

[glossy holly]

didnt they say something like that

[north sleet]

Question - I have a 270 geared tank druid - and as much fun as it is to play, I can't handle tanking anything outside a normal dungeon.
Healing on the other hand I have a good time with, but I'd like to transfer fully to Resto.

How do resto druids play the game? Do you just switch to boomkin or bear to quest or do high level monsters or do you use your moonkin form from within the resto tree?

I'm legitimately curious and would love to start gathering Resto gear but I don't want to nerf myself into hating it if i can't do normal content. I'm mostly a scaredy cat I guess LOL

[dense lantern]

you go bear and do the open world content

[glossy holly]

i just simply swapped to boomkin spec for quests and stuff

[grand herald]

Generally i just never do normal content

[north sleet]

LOL - well If you had just your druid and no other alts how would you play it ideally?

[grand herald]

I just raid and do m+

So its not really an issue

[north sleet]

Is there a jack of all trades spec/gear

[glossy holly]

well not exactly

haste mastery gear does seem to work for all specs (no clue about cats)

[north sleet]

I'm all ears - I'm ready to get started - I can solo T11 Delves with my eyes closed on the bear at his current item level

[glossy holly]

open world content is whatever, u can be any spec for them

m+, get talent tree suited for that content and another heal spec tree for raiding

at ur gear level, u really only need to get familiar with healing rotations

and know what to do etc

[viral berry]

On wowhead it recommends crafting bracers. Isn't it better to craft the engineering bracers that have a single stat and just get pure haste? Is there a reason not to do that?

[north sleet]

Well all of my gear is setup for bears - I guess I'll just have to start with the gear and go from there

Thanks

[spark river]

the best thing to do is get the bracers from academy on myth track

use qelive to see what you should upgrade

[unique sedge]

Do you innervate hpalas on l'ura? sacrifice yours for them, for crystal healing

[tough portal]

Yeah probably should. Resto druid has really good mana management via Abundance rn

[formal fjord]

A macro will sort it 🙂 do you need one?

[short dock]

anyone have a paladin discord ?

[thorn plover]

Google "paladin wow discord"

We can't link it here anyway

[short dock]

ok thanks !

[drowsy solar]

Is there a meta these days for totally ingoring the Xal affix this week if you're in keys that have it?

Cause I just had a healer let one of the 5 go off EVERY time despite me on tank clearing 3 on my own

[drifting pollen]

yes please, but will it shows to druid that healer want innervate?

[thorn plover]

Every class can clear it themselves, not necessarily a healer mechanic

[drowsy solar]

This rdruid said it was a healer mechanic and that I didn't understand it

when they were letting it go off despite help

[uncut mica]

the meta is to do 12s so you don't have to worry about affix xD

[drowsy solar]

I'm hoping like hell it was a deliberate rage bait

[thorn plover]

That too, just don't do 10s they're horrible

[wary belfry]

I ignore the affix when I heal but it just gets healed off anyway

Disc priest moment

[solid hemlock]

last bonus i had for npx gave me chest at least. I must have most stuff there so the last thing to drop will be the ring im sure

[drowsy solar]

Normally that's what happens too but for some reason every time one of them went off(it was a DK that could've cleared but wasn't) lol

[thorn plover]

I haven't got a usable piece of loot from bonus rolls yet, so you're doing well

[drowsy solar]

As a healer I usually love getting helped on it

[solid hemlock]

so nice right

had a paladin tank and he just took care of every one

[kind star]

Does something bad happens if you dont clear the affix?

[drowsy solar]

yeah

all enemies get 10% damage and 20% damage reduction per stack that goes off

Maybe I should've just let entire packs get 60% DR and see how long they take.

[kind star]

Oooooh I didn't know that

also just learned recently it was dispellable too

[drowsy solar]

its a snare so all snare removals work too now

[kind star]

I blame my frames not showing me all debuff meh, I just see the "absorb"

[drowsy solar]

it's shown by the default UI, so it must be something yours filters out

[kind star]

just using danders but I only got it and called it a day, might have to check settings.

[drowsy solar]

the affix stops at 12 so most people in discords never see it

[kind star]

yeah im way past that now anyways

[empty agate]

is it worth to use NS + regrowth on crystals in l'ura p1 or overkill if u have pal+mw monk already

(i'm already doing 1 regrowth on each + rg the lowest hp one)

for reference i've checked similar comps and the hps on crystals from rdruid is about 15-20% and i'm doing about 15% on avg so should i try to do 1 or 2 more regrowths or leave it like that? it seems fine but some pulls we are a bit low

[idle lake]

who else missing cw

[mental belfry]

miss my bugs

gimme my swarm back

[idle lake]

hearthstone bgs

i miss swarm too

but i miss cw more

[tough portal]

Brother... wtf are you rolling

[thorn plover]

Chim

[mystic crater]

Just get it

[thorn plover]

Rolling raid is so stupid I shouldn't have even bothered

Feels bad to not finish now tho

[shut barn]

Im in the same boat, its guaranteed next roll now…

[idle lake]

2 days

its not so bad

i got super lucky with mine this week

got the chest and the weapon from nexus point

can anyone take a look at alog

healing felt awful in the key

we depleted bc the tank failed on a pack

but the whole time it felt bad

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/LkXVRfhyDCQBMFJP?fight=2&type=healing

[solid hemlock]

Same!

[idle lake]

W

sadly cant wear chest until next week 💔

gonna craft a cloak to keep my embellish

[radiant narwhal]

how do I tell, on WCL, what times I had 10 stacks of abundance

or is that not possible

[thorn plover]

Buffs

[charred merlin]

buffs tab, filter ability to abundance, filter source to a specific person if you had more than 1 druid

[mint rampart]

do we know what we sending with the upgrade tomorrow? wep or trinket?

[main timber]

Definitely weapon

[weary moss]

How can i quickly find Messages I have typed in chat?

This chat

[proven phoenix]

from: yourusername

[thorn plover]

From:newtonslll

[radiant narwhal]

ty guys

[proven phoenix]

np

[graceful ermine]

Do you need to do anything to get the ilvl extension besides talk to the guy?

[hearty coral]

Be doing the weekly quest

[proven phoenix]

there's quests similar to the ones for rerolls

[graceful ermine]

Okay so you don’t need to do dungeons or something first though

[thorn plover]

Literally no one knows

Probably not even blizz

[graceful ermine]

Incoming “do 5 rbgs” requirement

[exotic zephyr]

does abundance effect both the initial and hot portion of regrowth?

and does it effect the regrowth applied by lifebloom?

[hearty coral]

According to the info given by warcraft logs I would say yes to all of those

Since the parenthesis values are the individual ticks vs casts and those also have a very high crit rate

[idle lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/410249389794131971/1495521719610380308/twitter-gif-2045615904180904168_69e53afca41f8.gif

[sudden rover]

Damn everyone rerolling mw its over for us boys

[bright swift]

https://tenor.com/view/anyway-oh-no-osef-lovyyn-oh-no-anyway-gif-10485254766402882762

[hushed sand]

Use the ilvl upgrade on a crafted 2H or use bonus rolls on a M+ staff first?

[distant birch]

If you are going to bonus roll m+ anyways then do thay

[hushed sand]

Makes sense, but I haven't really nailed down what I want to roll on now after getting Gaze and having heart of wind.

[hearty coral]

Easy you go to npx

[spark river]

rings, weapon, chest

all of which you can find in nexus point

[hushed sand]

I have the Myth OH, but there doesn't seem to be a good source for a dagger outside of the BiS one. And, doesn't seem to make much sense to use it on a 1H anyways

[hushed sand]

Yea. That seems reasonable.

[spark river]

There are also a weapon and chest in skyreach

I have that weapon with leech on it which is pretty neat

[hushed sand]

Nice

[idle lake]

when the fotm changes so you have to abandon your main character of 6 years

nerf our healing by 30% and add back skull bash

please

[kind star]

Skull bash and swarm tyty

[thorn plover]

Bear got nerfed

Basically a resto buff if you think about it

[distant birch]

Do not add interrupts back to healers

[sudden rover]

Ok i wont

[distant birch]

Ty homie

[soft dagger]

As a restro the nerf to guardian increase my chance to get inv

It's been a bad week for restro since everyone and their mother run with a bear tank. You will not get inv. Before it was bad enough in NA since NA prefer Shaman to druid. This week has been a disaster

[thorn plover]

Bear is still top after nerf I'm pretty sure

[sudden rover]

Yeah it’s a nothing burger fix

[soft dagger]

Other tank also got some good buff this week. They should keep buffing them so we at least have 2-3 viable spec at 19+ key

[thorn plover]

Already is?

[hot lily]

does it matter what loot spec we pick for doing dungeons? or just balance for bonus rolls and vault?

[urban bone]

I mean it changes the loot you can get

So it does matter

Just look at the dungeon in the adventure guide and change the loot spec and use the one that gives you the best odds

[thorn plover]

The answer is never resto

[west topaz]

😠

add it back so we have something to do

healerbrain happy

praisehoes everywhere in shambles because not being told you did a good job by your team for ints

[proven phoenix]

I dont want praise, I want insults

I work best when people are mean to me

[west topaz]

by default they already are!

[proven phoenix]

true....

[west topaz]

the meanest person on any of my teams is myself!

at myself!

😩

[proven phoenix]

that is also true

true for me that is

[spring nova]

hi any a crafter for leather shoulder on Antonidas ally :)?

[fervent mica]

na or eu?

[spring nova]

eu

[fervent mica]

can't help then. lol

[formal fjord]

hey friends, did i do badly or is it just #disc priest things

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/xXmwQNkK4Ag3rt82/2-Heroic+Imperator+Averzian+-+Kill+(3:03)/11-Rosebriar/standard

[tender shuttle]

anyone getting invited less now since guardian druids have become elite? (to M+)

[soft dagger]

Yeah inv is less with druid tank already in group.

[grand herald]

3 minute heroic kill on entry boss

[formal fjord]

ah yes

[formal fjord]

too short who cares is what youre saying?

or is there more to that statement

[grand herald]

Too short, the fight has 0 healing

[formal fjord]

okay cool

[grand herald]

A good parse would be 1 healing it

Not saying you played perfect

[formal fjord]

makes sense, im in a pug for vault so thats fine

[grand herald]

But better to look at a real fight

[formal fjord]

yeah, any quick you could do this better please?

[formal fjord]

hot tip?

[hot lily]

QElive is saying myth 2/6 feather is not as good as max hero track drums and crusader keepsake. is that just bc i dont have it maxed yet?

[lilac token]

is hotting pre-pull still a thing?

[hearty coral]

Yes it depends on which fight if damage will be that early but might as well do it

It's free you can get your mana back before pull and have a bunch of stuff rolling already

[thorn plover]

i dont think there are any fights where you wouldnt pre hot

[hearty coral]

"but might as well do it"

[gentle nova]

You should always do it

Since its basically free mana

Keeps the abundance momentum going with 0 mana used

[carmine heron]

Does anyone know off the top of their head which affix is tomororw? Ascendant?

[grand herald]

do 12s and its the same everyweek

[inner sonnet]

Emissary

[tough portal]

I miss old affixes

[mental belfry]

miss my teeming skittish week

[steel cedar]

is there anyway to make swiftmend not greyed out all the damn time

[thorn plover]

Lots of the cdm add-ons can do it. Someone had made a standalone add-on at one point but I haven't heard anything about it in a while

[urban kestrel]

Probably a dumb question, but what do I send 2nd pot on if I pot intermission on lura?

do I just send it when it comes up in p3?

or wait for p4?

ive heard p4 is a joke to heal?

[proven phoenix]

yeah

p4 is complete piss

[urban kestrel]

ty

[proven phoenix]

I just potted once

in intermission, it was up in p4 but I was sweating anyway and potting p4 is irrelevant

[urban kestrel]

if there were like a good dps pot id just send it ig, but like

Ive tried using that direct dmg to 1 target po

and its no good

let me pull out those df potion bombs

that buff the dps

how much stats do those give these days?

[proven phoenix]

no idea

[urban kestrel]

pog gives 1 primary stat to 5 allies

for 30s

also apparently potion bomb of recovery is still +10% healing taken to 5 people for 12s, kinda crazy

yeah no, potion of zealotry does 50k, god thats so ass

guess I just reck pot late p3 or lights potential for dam

with hotw

[lament river]

Are we using mana pots in raid ore stat atm ?

[rain hinge]

i don't like owl weaving

[proven phoenix]

no

mana potions stink

[radiant narwhal]

reck or light

i like light

[proven phoenix]

bad take

reck is better unless you are trying to pot during lust

[wary belfry]

bad take

[inner sonnet]

bad take, gamer words

[rustic copper]

Bad take

Reck with lust goes crazy

[proven phoenix]

there's no way man

what are you doing with that much haste

[radiant narwhal]

ramping into the next tier

[proven phoenix]

but also what boss are you potting during lust

[wary belfry]

Casting rejuv

Paladins

[proven phoenix]

nah fuck that

I would rather pot first absorbs than that

[rustic copper]

3 min pot paladins

[proven phoenix]

is 3 min the ticking damage into absorbs

[rustic copper]

Yeah

[proven phoenix]

I pot there too

[rustic copper]

With the big boom too

It’s fucked

[proven phoenix]

yeah

[wary belfry]

I just figure 2 pots would be better than 1

[proven phoenix]

its awful

well I did it on our first kill

and I just kept it there

[radiant narwhal]

phased when am I pressing pot then

on l'ura

[proven phoenix]

intermission

[radiant narwhal]

like when all the people start firing off shit from their asses?

[molten gull]

anyone hav eany tips for emberdawn? i feel like on 16s/17s that fight is just crazy

you can ironbark one who doesn't have defensives and lifebloom and pump heals into the other when the dots go out , and barkskin yourself and lifebloom the other on the other round

but then intermission comes and i have convoke for one (which sometimes isn't even enough?) but its rough to try to get a tranq out when all the tornados are everywhere and the fire spit is going to target you

[fervent mica]

hope your group knows how to drop puddles, otherwise its cancer

[proven phoenix]

yes

[molten gull]

whew, finally got it done

[somber sky]

look at my beautiful paint creation. that spot is always free and you can just chill there because frontal never hits there. bonus points if your group puts puddles to the wall where the boss is facing first then you also can ignore tornados.

and for the debuff it shouldn't be that much of an issue? i just checked my vod from a 17 and people didn't drop a lot even with just 1 rejuv beforehand and then casting regrowth on them

[molten gull]

yeah the debuff isn't too crazy. def have to address it, its not just a 'toss rejuv and you're good', but its not a major struggle

[molten gull]

There is a safe spot?! do you just mean relative to where the current cast is?

[west topaz]

oh my god haha

ORANGE JUICE PARTY

[somber sky]

yes the frontals are always in the exact same spots relative to where he starts casting (where tank is when it starts)

[molten gull]

oh i thought it rotates to where the next person is or something. interesting

[stable verge]

Generaly I for aoe moment I do early convoke 1rst+NS rg, then mid convoke 2nd+ cd, full blanket + NS rg 3rd, and usually isded

[west topaz]

"safe spot" dont forget tornadoes

[molten gull]

haha yeah of course

thanks for the tips. i got the 16 timed so ill prob stay away from it for a while. just get a cheeky 3400 and then see what i wanna do

[west topaz]

because we're super mobile i just run around so im not on the approaching side of it cause it's counterCW direction

LEFT SPINNY for the people who can't read a clock

[molten crater]

Our Mastery: Harmony says “…reduced by each additional effect” - does anyone know the reduced effectiveness? I can’t seem to find anything about it

[fleet jewel]

I think QE has one

[molten crater]

Amazing, thanks!

[trim bluff]

I miss old mastery

[sly pivot]

is there a quick or easy way to see which season i played the most keys?

[formal fjord]

I just look at my logs

Its filtered by seasons

[icy delta]

the 1% cutoff will def be 4k io with the new turbo boost events

[distant birch]

its probably gonna be around resil 21

[olive terrace]

Wait what the boss doesn't just rotate 90degs??

Holy shit I just watched a video

[somber sky]

no it's 135° i think. def more than 90° on each turn

[thorn whale]

What have you eaten this morning

[distant birch]

nothing

probably redbull soon

[thorn whale]

Have you played a 21 this season looq

[distant birch]

nah i dont really plan on pushing

ive done 20 maisara with homies tho but on aug

[thorn whale]

There is 0 way that 1% will be resil 21

[distant birch]

as in, it'll be higher than that or lower?

[thorn whale]

Lower

[distant birch]

i dont think so tbh, ive seen my homies just 1 bang some 21s already

mw+guardian is crazy combo, these specs are omega easy

[thorn whale]

Your homies play in a top 50 guild

[olive terrace]

It returns to the first cone I think? Would make it 120degs

[distant birch]

We're clankers tho

[thorn whale]

but brother title is 3887 rn

resil 21 is like 4030

Ofc u can't fully compare previous seasons and this one

But the difference between title and 1% was 350 last season

put that down to idk 200

and you expect title to be 4230

[deft oar]

Hard agree with donby here

Resil 21 would be insane for 1% imo

[thorn whale]

I just don't think i would be good enough to get title then

And that clashes with my ego

so

I refuse

XD

[spark river]

No shot its resil 21

[royal radish]

Hi everyone, I haven’t played WoW since Dragonflight Season 1 and I’m just getting back into it.

I’m still in the process of setting up my interface again and generally getting back into the game. One thing I’ve noticed is that the Self Cast modifier [ALT] doesn’t seem to work for me in combination with Wild Growth. I’m fairly sure this used to work before.

Did I miss a change here, or does this sound more like an issue with my interface, keybinds, or addons?

[gilded oxide]

Doesn't our power gain (even with turbo-boost) start getting pretty outscaled by the stat increases in keys from like 20/21 onwards? I think people are getting baited by how far people have already pushed due to how fast we can achieve BiS this season, resil 19s with some 20s seems more likely, MAYBE resil 20s if boosting is rampant and people can actually carry you at that level.

[distant birch]

I mean, title is not 1% tho

its 0.1%

[thorn whale]

That wasn't really my point

I'm just saying that they're relative

[distant birch]

no but half of the homies are saying 1%

[spark river]

projected title cutoff is 4082 io right now lol

[thorn whale]

what is that website called again

Vercel

thanks

[deft oar]

https://mplus-title.vercel.app/

[thorn whale]

This is june 2nd tho

[spark river]

well yeah season end

thats what matters right

[thorn whale]

It's not season end on june 2nd I think?

[marsh prism]

there is no way the season will end on 2 june

[gilded oxide]

June 2nd is just where the graph cuts off by default, it's not representing season end

[spark river]

i just thought that date at the end would be season end my bad i guess

but thats even worse

[thorn whale]

But also this is usually a bit higher than what actually happens

[spark river]

4082 is already insanely high

[deft oar]

The rate at which the score increases for title drops off like crazy, right now everyone is going for as much score as possible. Towards the end of the season so many people camp the bottom cutoff of title just to get it that the score requirement stops growing

[gilded oxide]

June 2nd is only projected to be 4024 btw, not 4082

[thorn whale]

We're not NA

[deft oar]

The graph shows it just perma going up at the same rate for the rest of the season type shit, but if you look prev seasons it plateaus like crazy

[spark river]

I am looking at eu cutoff

as im eu

yeah s3 tww is basically a straight line lol

[gilded oxide]

Oh I didn't even notice mine was filtered to US, fair point lol

[spark river]

It looks like it will be at least 4k even if it plateaus which is insane

[thorn whale]

That is very likely

Depending on how much power we actually gain in .7?

I feel like it will be resil 21 and some 22's splashed

[spark river]

Like the only way you re getting that is in a team

[thorn whale]

Nah

Just takes a lot of time XD

M+ is usually a numbers game

Just run it enough times

[spark river]

Pugging to resil 21 is the biggest horror story ever

[rustic coyote]

You also have to think that power increases, but people personal skills might be the same

[distant birch]

oh i just noticed that i responded to the 1% cutoff not the title lol

[rustic coyote]

few extra ilvl won't bring you from +15 to +20

[gilded oxide]

Top .1% will more than likely be 4k or higher in China and EU at least, there are already 1142 players with resil 22s on CHI servers and that's before any additional power gain. I still think there will be a sizeable gap between 1% and .1% even with the new rewards though.

[distant birch]

yeah 1% wont be 21 resil i was talking about 0.1% only

1% probably 19-20 range if i were to guess but hard to say atm

but with incentive to actually go for it it'll be definitely a lot more competitive

[gilded oxide]

It'll also be interesting to see the impact boosting has, plenty of sales for CE mounts every season and this will probably be similar.

[thorn whale]

Hahaha alright now I understand

[wraith blaze]

idiot Q but if using vaelgor's in M+ what do you pair it with or just use it on the fly

[gilded oxide]

On an unrelated note, anyone made the switch (or pushed similar key levels) to MW / Rsham that can comment on whether things feel easier at all? I've done up to resil 18s on the druid so far, currently taking a small break and just doing maintenance keys while gearing alts up. I only play with PUGs so likely going to pick whatever feels like it fits best in more comps + has an easier time to finish keeping up with 1% range.

[distant birch]

I havent personally, but my friend swapped to mw from resto druid and finds it a lot easier for sure

A lot less prep as mw especially on trash where you legitimately spend 99% of time just spinning and healing for a lot

while doing 70k dps

[spark river]

mw is crazy easy

the whole rotation is basically tea into triple kick into spin

[sudden rover]

it's night and day yeah

druid is second hardest healer after pres, mw is the easiest

[spark river]

have you played pres

[sudden rover]

used to yeah, respecced it to aug

the feeling to heal with this class is horrible

[spark river]

its not harder than druid

[thorn whale]

I swapped - both in raid and keys

[spark river]

Its actually comically easy now

[sudden rover]

yeah apparently they made it simpler a few weeks ago? idk. I played it at the start of midnight and it felt horrible in keys

[thorn whale]

Some spots feel harder to heal, but most spots feel easier to heal as mw

like Crawth I would be Rdruid any day, but Vexamus is easier as MW

[primal oak]

Hm if MW is that easy, maybe I should give it a shot. Never played it tho

[thorn whale]

Idk it doesn't make you go from 15-->20's

but trash for sure feels easier

and you contribute a lot of dps

[primal oak]

I‘m happy with druid, but I‘m pugging like 90% of the time

[royal radish]

Hi everyone, I haven’t played WoW since Dragonflight Season 1 and I’m just getting back into it. I’m still in the process of setting up my interface again and generally getting back into the game. One thing I’ve noticed is that the Self Cast modifier [ALT] doesn’t seem to work for me in combination with Wild Growth. I’m fairly sure this used to work before, like [ALT] + [R] but it doesn't work for WildGrowth... 🫤

Did I miss a change here, or does this sound more like an issue with my interface, keybinds, or addons?

[wicked veldt]

wild growth is like an untargeted spell right

[glossy holly]

[wicked veldt]

like it just smart heals 5 targets you dont get to pick them

[glossy holly]

acts like as its speading from intended target though

idk i never tested that

[wicked veldt]

maybe the fact you can cast it off an enemy is interfering idk

its one of those two things

[marsh prism]

no

it doesnt always hit its intended target either but it needs a target

no clue what might be happening for that guy

[wicked veldt]

this is what im saying yes

[marsh prism]

oh like as in similar to not as in filler

yes

oh

sorry, so, right

it might just not be applying to you

even if you're casting it off yourself

sorry, long day, fried brain

[royal radish]

Does it cast if you stand alone, with nothing targeted? For me it don’t 🤷🏼‍♂️ I need a player as a target or groupframe mouseover

[marsh prism]

no

[wicked veldt]

are you using a macro

[marsh prism]

you need to point the spell at something

[royal radish]

No macro, just a keybind

[wicked veldt]

okay so you have auto self cast off

and a self cast bind

[royal radish]

Yes, ALT for selfcast

For other spells it works, but not for Wildgrowth 🤔

[wicked veldt]

you dont have like, alt + [your wildgrowth bind] bound to something else do you?

[royal radish]

Guess not… never changed that… since BC I guess…

[bleak lion]

hey guys, question for raiding: do i use swiftmend on the lifebloom target even if it's not in the pandemic window? or do i hold swiftmend until LB is in pandemic window? or maybe i swiftmend another player? just been unsure about this. thanks in advance

[marsh prism]

dont hold swiftmend for the lb refresh

[spark river]

never hold swiftmend

[marsh prism]

swiftmend for the lb refresh if it's the best use of it at the time

swiftmend can also be a heal if someone needs it

it's ok to default to the lb refresh but dont hold it for only that

[fervent mica]

sm in pandemic doesn't do anything... but regardless use it on cd

[bleak lion]

so i use swiftmend on the LB target independently from the fact that LB is expiring or not?

[solid hemlock]

i find I end up doing a lifebloom refresh in pandemic and then almost an immediate swiftmend due to the timings (frequently). Is that ok?

i just tried to get in the habit of hitting swiftmend every single time my alert goes off lol

[fervent mica]

definitely not frequently... you only have to refresh around once/minute

[bleak lion]

with verdant infusion, swiftmend refreshes all hots, no?

[solid hemlock]

yes

i must be timing poorly then

[fervent mica]

it does not trigger pandemic

was my point

[solid hemlock]

yes i understand that

[spark river]

extends

doesnt refresh

[fervent mica]

it doesn't refresh, it extends

[bleak lion]

ok so to be clear, use SM on cd (i already am) on the LB target neverteless if LB is expiring or no, just use it cause its up.

[fervent mica]

the other person

yeah

[bleak lion]

yeah i meant that, sorry, not native english xD

[fervent mica]

more sm more better

[glossy holly]

yeah use SM in cd regardless of what is happening to duration of hots

[bleak lion]

ok thanks, so i was doing it right, yay

[spark river]

More sm means more soul of the forest procs which leads to more healing and abundance uptime

[solid hemlock]

Yeah lovely constant explosions of green 😄

[bleak lion]

true. my concern was for the lb blooming at the end, if i keep extending it with SM it won't bloom?

[solid hemlock]

no, but you'll proc soul of the forest's bloom via apex when using swiftmend which is bigger

[bleak lion]

ok so soul is better than bloom, gotcha

[marsh prism]

sorry i also used the word refresh for no reason in my answer which didnt help

[fervent mica]

don't worry about the blooms from refreshing it. you're talking about ~10 blooms over the entire fight... apex procs 3 every sm... and it only accounts for 1/3rd of the ones you get through the fight

[bleak lion]

that makes sense XD ty!

[spark river]

This is our apex before it was reworked

Its outdated information

[solid hemlock]

nice to have a good apex talent

[royal radish]

👍 ty... your right... the reason for SM is still the same...

[spark river]

Guardian getting a nerf tomorrow

They had to intervene lol

[solid hemlock]

at least it's not a total gutting

[mystic crater]

Ta indeed, deleted message

[rain mist]

I'm playing with some UI changes and copied the one from wowhead, i'm missing 3 buttons on my 3rd action bar and i don't want the non filled slots to be hidden. Where can i change this?

[glossy holly]

umm, that could be inside blizz options

i cant recall accurately where i saw such option to make them seen or not seen

[rain mist]

ah found it, in edit mode then click the action bar and these settings, # of icons and always visible

[glossy holly]

riiight

[frail cypress]

Is the dream of cenarius build still viable?

[proven phoenix]

viable is a strong word

[spark river]

define viable

[proven phoenix]

you can play it if you want but its pretty ass for healing

[kind star]

NA vault day a.k.a beta testing wep/trinket upgrades 😂

[prisma grotto]

chat how do i replace this crucible trinket
qelive doesnt say theres any upgrades on 276
am i just doomed to wear it 😭

[proven phoenix]

yeah

most trinkets are pretty ass

you will probably only replace it with heroic or mythic raid trinkets

[prisma grotto]

on a char that doesnt raid, thats unfortunate to hear

[proven phoenix]

you can prob just do a chimaerus every week with bonus rolls

[kind star]

just get emberwing feather then ig if no raid

[proven phoenix]

a mythic gaze is probably still very good

[prisma grotto]

i have genuinely no interest in even trying to learn how to heal raid
and even less in playing boomie
like there's absolutely no shot id ever join a raid like this

[proven phoenix]

you might be out of luck then

crucible it is

[prisma grotto]

maybe whistle can be worth looking into it appears to be a whole 0.3% better than crucible

but that means bonus rolling all of algethar

[kind star]

should I open my vault as something else than resto spec later?

[frail cypress]

surely if they can do 18s i can do a 10 with it

[proven phoenix]

yeah probably

[proven phoenix]

yes probably moonkin spec, you dont want litany or any other healer only trinket

[fervent mica]

owl...

[proven phoenix]

you desperately need some better jewellery

[kind star]

ight figured so, just wanted confirmation always opened my vault as resto.

[wicked spade]

Is low level resto pretty bad or am I just pretty bad?

[fervent mica]

the latter, probably

theres a bunch of guides in the pins to get you started

[wicked spade]

Makes sense

[fervent mica]

can always come back with a log if you're needing more help

[wicked spade]

I am struggling to keep people up in dungeons

[kind star]

should I just keep my 2 bonus rolls this week for npx or save one for myth gaze hmm

[wicked spade]

I am managing just about but it doesn’t feel great

[stable verge]

As much as I'd love mythic gaze, considering you could need a weapon, or non-ass ring and even mythic chest.. I'd go Nxp

[kind star]

yeah was debating as I got crafted weapon could send before raid and using the voidcore ascended thingy

[stable verge]

I think the singular best improvement could be gaze going from 272 to 289, but if you manage to drop 2 usefull pieces like weapon + ring in there..

I'd assume that would be better. Besides you could have a shot at gaze in the vault too, which is more likely than bis dungeon pieces to be in there

[kind star]

we havent done mythic chim yet gonna be our first week, still got lura left on heroic ugh

ight ill send in npx should be easy to find groups doing 12+ on reset

[stable verge]

Oye of course

[stable verge]

Tell 'em to parry it, probably