resto

[plucky maple]

How much is the 6-7% nerf affecting us? mainly in m+

[gentle nova]

Atp just drop all

[icy delta]

How is there only 1 lobby for m+ 15 algareth academy in a normal evening?`Wasn't this supposed to have more players in midnight?

[rustic olive]

The servers just came back up...

[gentle nova]

6-7

[rustic copper]

No

[olive terrace]

Uhh i think you shoulda taken the myth weap and crafted a neck 😅

[mellow phoenix]

6️⃣ 7️⃣

[rustic copper]

I’d love 1 min convoke

[gentle nova]

Sixseven

[rustic copper]

The rest of the points are worthless

[silver phoenix]

Welp, here's to next week lol

I had just made my staff last week T_T getting to the midnight party late and playing catch up lol

[olive terrace]

You had the 'oh noo my steak is too buttery' situation

[silver phoenix]

Exactly lol

[primal oak]

Hey guys, I'm looking for some advice on Vexamus in AA. How do we deal with the manabombs that are not followed by the aoe damage (so 1, 3, 5 etc.)? I always try to hold my convoke/NS for the overlap but struggle to heal the "normal" bombs. Defs probably need to be kept for the overlap, too, eventually?

[grand herald]

Pre hot people up, cast RGs

[olive terrace]

Alright crafting neck and taking this from vault. Feels bad to swap myth with myth 😬

[grand herald]

You just have to use your normal healing as best as possible

[gentle nova]

today is the weapon upgrade?

[gentle nova]

thats not even debtable

[clever cipher]

I have myth gaze/heart

[frosty canyon]

so locus

[clever cipher]

Is it gonna lose value as fights get shorter tho?

[gentle nova]

yes

[clever cipher]

And stare potentially kind of big for shorter fights?

[thorn plover]

Ribbon gains value next season

For a short time

[clever cipher]

Why can’t I just have both

[silk ice]

Lura isn’t getting much shorter

[grizzled seal]

yeah a burst trinket on our incredibly bursty spec

[primal oak]

Can you get a bit more specific? All hots on every dps/myself should be rolling before we go out? And then casting RG while we have the dot? 2-3 RG seem to be possible if I don't need to run much

[grizzled seal]

insane moments for 15 sec on use

[clever cipher]

Let me bonus roll a second vault selection ty blizz

[grand herald]

Preposition yourself, pre hot everyone yeah (doesnt have to be 2x RJs but WG and at least 1 rj is good)

[clever cipher]

I genuinely don’t know why a bunch of top logs are using stare

[grand herald]

SM + RG to top up right befor epop

[blissful apex]

idk what to pick lol, it's saying going snapvine cinch (belt with socket) but I have myth shulkas no socket... pants I can catalyze to myth tier to replace my hero tier pants, and myth suffuser is also better than my hero heart of the wind according to qelive trinket chart

[grizzled seal]

because it's their best trinket

isnt that obvious lol

[clever cipher]

That can’t just be it surely they’ve hit something else

[primal oak]

Thank you! Would you recommend walking out much? Sometimes I get outranged by DPS also walking too far away. Mostly playing in pugs so can't really control it

[main timber]

Ribbon is insanely annoying to get and a lot of guilds didn't reclear Crown

Crazy to consider anything else from that vault

[frosty canyon]

not much of a need

right?

[main timber]

Yeah it's fine to not reclear, I am just saying why less people have the trinket

Top logs half way through season often end up with whatever raid trinkets are easy to get. Especially considering there are a bunch on their 8th alt (in that single raid session)

[drifting timber]

no change in raid talents ?

[main timber]

No change for now

[clever cipher]

Oh I mean ribbon would be replacing mythic heart w/ avoidance so there’s not that big of a difference is the only reason I’m considering anything else

[oak garnet]

If I had mythic ribbon in my vault I'd select it without simmint anything or asking anyone for any advice

It's your bis and is one of three items you can bump to 298 shortly

[gentle nova]

thats cuz u lack critical thinking

[oak garnet]

Bis is bis cuz

[gentle nova]

shes right in questioining ribbon when fights are short/get shorter

[smoky sail]

Ribbon only good on crown and lura

[rustic copper]

LOL

[grizzled seal]

cant tell if serious or rage baiting

[rustic copper]

Slot machine coins

Ribbon for the p3-4 Lura healing

Absolutely wild value

[grizzled seal]

how long do you think the fight has to be for stare to beat ribbon

lmao

[proven phoenix]

wow....

another 80 crests down the drain

[gentle nova]

gg

[grizzled seal]

what are you playing

[gentle nova]

went back to pre rework values

icant

[gentle nova]

phosy

3/4

now illd o a 4/4

[grizzled seal]

keeper?

[gentle nova]

ws

[grizzled seal]

what's the point of WS without apex4?

[opaque nebula]

What you think what we gonna play after nerf?

[rustic copper]

It’s 40 if you have an alt

[proven phoenix]

you mean an alt with myth of the dawn and mythic wrists

[grizzled seal]

Alt doesn't have to have the achievement

I'm already using discounts from my alts on my main

[proven phoenix]

hmm

I see

[grizzled seal]

As they say

The rich get richer

[kind star]

2h30 minute bfore I get to be disapointed for no weapons in vault pog!

[thorn plover]

myth tier gloves

[thorn plover]

whats what there

[gentle nova]

4 apex vs 3 apex

[rustic copper]

ok so we stay 4 apex

[gentle nova]

ya

lmao

[prime ridge]

Is it normal the QE live shows me ribbon + keepsake as favored trinkets over ribbon + vaelgors final stare? Is stare really not that good?

[main timber]

It isn't that good no

I am guessing these are also sub max level

[prime ridge]

Just Hero max

[main timber]

Keepsake is also very good

Just not available on myth track

[prime ridge]

What I found even more confusing is, that for Dungeons QE live doesnt even recommend ribbon, but stare and litany

[proven phoenix]

ribbon is a stacking trinket that wants you in combat for a long time

its like eye of kezan from that tier

undermine

[prime ridge]

Ahhh true

[stiff ruin]

i'm not crying...youre' crying, we're all crying <33

and has leech on it

[kind star]

https://tenor.com/view/omerrv-snip-snippingtool-life-hack-supertool-gif-19420393

[stiff ruin]

i just figured it out haha

Thank you!

[blissful apex]

any advice for me? 🥹❤️

[oak garnet]

Well we had a nice run w that apex blasting

[past tusk]

hey by taking Master Shapeshifter over Liveliness you give up 5% faster hots, isnt that quite significant?

[mystic pasture]

it's like 2% iirc

hps

[kind star]

liveliness enjoyer here I just sip here and there during keys

[mystic pasture]

i assume they mean raid

[stiff ruin]

so i mean....is resto cooked?

[thorn plover]

Yep reroll were done

Nothing to see here

[kind star]

shut down the server

[fickle garden]

Yea everyone should go play holy paladin the new meta class

[stiff ruin]

so is everyone trying to use HoW for M+ ?

[kind star]

all hpal does in my raid is be oom! pffft

[opaque nebula]

Hahahahah

[thorn plover]

What is this

[silk ice]

An old gif

[thorn plover]

Oh ok I was gonna say

[silk ice]

Or maybe the new balance after the 6-7% nerf

[thorn plover]

I don't think it drops us that far down

[silk ice]

History tends to repeat itself

[onyx trail]

this was like week 2 mythic or something

before numerous hpal buffs

[kind star]

is it like rdudu/disc/pres or something atm? well before the patch ig

[snow umbra]

We back to no Apex following the nerfs?

[main timber]

No build changes for now

[glossy holly]

lifebloomalert definitely is useful heh

[hollow pond]

Is a bonus roll table the entire class loot, or your specialty or is there somewhere to see the actual loot table to resto druid, trying to figure out Academy table I got it narrowed down to 10 total items 3 or 4 not in spec

[glossy holly]

specialty

[calm elk]

Spec loot

[harsh quail]

if you open your dungeon journal it also shows you the entire lootable for each specc

[hollow pond]

i must have missed something, I just saw all loot for druid not just resto. thats why i counted the 10 items total 4 items I dont think fall under the specialty

[echo hedge]

is starfire bugged for resto currently?

people in my discord saying its doing more damage than intended

[hollow pond]

ah. i thought that was just class, i didnt realize it had specs in it. like i said i missed something xD

[harsh quail]

some time ago the splash dmg of starfire got buffed for Boomkin and because of spaghetti code it did bleed over to resto specc

[dusk talon]

U guys think we still going to be good after the nerfs ? I'm gearing my drood and it got nerf XD

[echo hedge]

so its expected to be reverted?

[viral berry]

I'm making a UI for my rdruid. I'm wondering if people play around refreshing LB on low duration so you get the bloom effect? Is that a thing?

Also what does it mean near expiration specifically?

[harsh quail]

took them nearly half a decade to change ns+voke...so I wouldnt think its high on the list

[half owl]

If not mythic raiding, and my vault myth options aren’t upgrades, worth taking a hero locus Walker or the coins for roll?

[kind star]

during pandemic window I think its about 4.5sec before it expires and yes you do want to do that and keep lb always up

I recommend getting the addon Lifebloom Alert it would give you a sound queue when to refresh

[viral berry]

Would it make sense to have my LB icon like glow then when it's 'safe' to refresh it? Or is that overkill

Ohh nvm there is already an addon

Cool

[main timber]

It depends a bit on talents too. When taking Verdant Infusion you will only rarely need to manually refresh it

[kind star]

dandersframe does that for me

[hollow pond]

depends on what works for you Id think, overkill is just another way of making sure you dont miss it if you get overwhelmed, as long as it doesnt distract you from everything else

[viral berry]

How does that work out though with the CD? I would assume you want to Swiftmend as close to on CD as possible. But that doesn't line up with when LB is in pandemic window every time does it?

Do you hold SM or skip the pandemic refresh or does it just work out perfectly somehow?

[harsh quail]

btw did anyone on na already test if the thrash changes also applied to us?

[main timber]

You just skip the pandemic refresh. It doesn't proc if you Swiftmend them anyway

[viral berry]

Oh ok. So the pandemic refresh is nice-to-have but not crucial rotation then.

[main timber]

Yeah you will do it sometimes

Just not so regularly that you need insane ui support

[hazy cliff]

anyone able to have a look at a paladins log please? i don't feel like i'm doing bad, but there's definitely some room for improvement

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BqnGa7mA98LMvCDH?type=summary&fight=24&source=11

i did notice some pulls where i was running low on mana despite using innervate pretty much on cd, especially for ramps, but that might have been on some of the more dicey pulls where the panic set in

[rugged lodge]

Does anyone have a set up healer Exboss profile that he/she can share for m+? New to this kind of stuff :<

[fluid coral]

i see a lot of people panicking about druid in raid, but it seems like nerfs don't really hurt m+ as much right?

[glossy holly]

blooms got smaller contribution in m+ yes

[gentle nova]

Its still about 5% nerf. Thats not small

[gentle nova]

Youre not casting spells all the time

High downtime

[glass crane]

any button is better than no button (jot that down)

[scenic pilot]

Sockets are quite good right now considering we're being deluged with Mythic Gear (Vault, Reroll, Craft, Mythic Raid if you participate) and are generally Crest starved.

[gentle nova]

What boss drops tier helm?

[smoky sail]

palas i think

[wheat grove]

Hello, has there been any change to the raid build considering the healing nerfs?

[hazy cliff]

definitely doesn't feel like it, but that might be mostly everything feeling chaotic as fuck learning all the overlap timings

given the potential mana issue i can see coming a bit, what would be the best way to approach getting less downtime with not burning mana unnecessarily?

[gentle nova]

You might not feel it but the log doesnt lie

Youre about 10 cpm behind what you should be

You cast more regrowths

Your rg cpm is low

[hazy cliff]

oh absolutely, not doubting the log at all dw, just got to get better at getting in the zone in the chaos i think

[gentle nova]

Your mana bar is determined by your wild growth casts, if you are ooming you need to stop pressing that many wgs. You can control how fast you oom with your wild growths

[spark river]

but youre dying on 12%

how are you still in panic mode

[gentle nova]

But before this you definitely need to improve your rg casts

[hazy cliff]

can't remember if it was this pull where i noticed mana being low, but early prog, so sometimes unnecessary damage goes out when we don't always have a cd spare to cover it

[hazy cliff]

yeah i did notice wg was a little too high while looking things over earlier, some pulls were better than others, but definitely something to keep a closer eye on

and going to focus in on rg tomorrow, tyvm!

[gentle nova]

Thats me vs you for instance

[spark river]

If you re running into mana problems just cut the wg cpm a bit

your overall cpm should still be >55

4.5 swiftmend cpm

my unc is washed

[gentle nova]

I hold it

On purpose

Theres no reason to prees it on cd if it makes sense

[dreamy forge]

I have mostly 3/6 Hero gear as i started this alt pretty late, I have almost no Hero crests to upgrade, and i can only get a few Myth pieces per week. Should i convert some Myth crest to Hero crests to upgrade the BiS pieces? I'd wait till reset tomorrow ofc.

[dusk talon]

Just got invited to a 17 MT, tank told me "i invited u cause ur spec is dead tomorrow"

crazy ppl

XD

[grizzled seal]

4.5 SM is fine with WS

5 was only doable because of keeper

[hazy cliff]

will do, think i'll focus a bit more on holding back on it so it's out pre-tranq/convoke, rather than trying to fit in as many as i can and ending up with it falling off right before by doing it so far in advance

[gentle nova]

You can get a bit more

Marginally

[grizzled seal]

Not much more

[dreamy forge]

MW stocks rising

[gentle nova]

If you press exactly on cd but why would u

[grizzled seal]

Maybe 4.6-4.7 tops if you sit on gcd

[cosmic saffron]

LOL

[gentle nova]

If you want an everbloom proc

For specific moment

[grizzled seal]

I don't concern myself with such things

Button up I press

[dusk talon]

MW is cool but playing with a druid is so much safier tbh

dunno

[gentle nova]

I want everbloom to proc when i get the healing absorb on me

[grizzled seal]

Oh like that

On paladins sure

[cosmic saffron]

I make it so I can see lifebloom shine 3x with sotf

even tho I dont need it is fun too watch uwu

[grizzled seal]

I hate that animation

[cosmic saffron]

what?? is funsies

[dreamy forge]

I started as BM/MW monk to get resi 15 and now started my druid alt, I find monk easier but I'm sure its just learning curve.

is that 3400 reward this season already or the next?

[cosmic saffron]

this season

[dreamy forge]

Cool, might go for that as well then

[dusk talon]

monk is way harder in higher keys

[dreamy forge]

I'll see if I hit a wall eventually

[dusk talon]

i felt a lill wall on 17s

on my mw

needed some practice tbh

[grizzled seal]

There is still weapon and trinket ilvl to gain

[kind star]

when is that like next week? idr

[cosmic saffron]

I think its today

the thingy on decimus is 2/3

[late jackal]

next week

[cosmic saffron]

isnt it?

oh :v

[red pecan]

with the ascendant voidcore next week, is it a good idea to take a myth corespark multitool this week or just take myth gloves and upgrade from hero?
tried using qelive but was doing something wrong 😔

[grizzled seal]

It's when your quest hits 4

Reset starting May 12-13 depending on your region

[scenic pilot]

Do we have any idea if there are restrictions or timegates to Ascendant Voidcore upgrades once May 12 rolls around? Or are we instant 298 everything?

[main timber]

I think nobody has any idea

[cursive pilot]

u got 16 voidcores or something?

[rain oyster]

where are u using you bonus rolls atm? if in nexus point then it would be really easy to get that weapon there with one of your next rolls

[fervent path]

low key i get shoulders instead of bonus roll right? Im gonna farm NPX and it drops no shoulders

[cursive pilot]

what the rest of gear lookin like

[fervent path]

i also have to farm WS but

robot tells me NPX is better for items

[gleaming spoke]

I mean... I'd take the Myth Shoulders and cata them.

[cursive pilot]

yea shoulder

[fervent path]

NPX drops rings weapon boots gloves and chest

basically everything is good

yeye

tyty

[cursive pilot]

yeah but 198 shoulder lol

[fervent path]

been fun running 12s with 230 ilvl lmao feels like a demo of what higher keys will feel like

not fun getting hit for 250k and dying one shot tho

[gleaming spoke]

Tanked a 10 on my 227 Prot Pally the other day. I enjoy the challenge of doing keys with lower ilv. Was healin 10s in my 220s on Resto too.

[balmy spire]

want to kill that dragons soooo badly >_<

[fervent path]

tried +14 PoS and Garfrost was like NOPE

lmao

[gleaming spoke]

It's rough. Have to rotate your two barks on yourself if you're that low.

[fervent path]

first try around I didnt know i was supposed to pre-bear the aoe break

so i just like

instadied to the dot

[coral smelt]

I just got back from a break what’s the nerfs looking like for us? Bad or alright

For m+

[glossy holly]

not exactly bad

but it wont feel good either

[kind star]

Vault cooked all day hopefully didn't burn! Omw home 🙏

[shrewd jay]

Guys I have a lot of mana issue in M+, any Idea what could cause that

[dreamy forge]

not ramping Abundance enough?

[bright swift]

It finally died...

[tough portal]

Over Rejuving, unaware of damage and mechanics maybe, but at some point you start needing to drink cuz even token amounts of damage require more active healing. This is sorta normal, like on a 18 or 19 I think you should start to take a few sips over the run when you can before you go low on mana.

[glossy holly]

personally i noticed i casted regrowth too little overall, so spread sotf rej's around and throw more regrowths for mana issue

[tough portal]

But if it's a lower key than that you're just being inefficient too

[chilly dawn]

What is the impact of the coming nerf in our HPS in raid?

[thorn whale]

gz @bright swift

[glossy holly]

7% raid nerf

[chilly dawn]

We will keep playing WS in Raid?

[glossy holly]

well currently we seem to be keeping apex

[sudden karma]

Yo guys. Now i have 32% haste amd 33% mastery. Is ok for M+ and raid? Or is to much haste ?

[silk ice]

6-7%

[glossy osprey]

Did our talents change at all

[glossy holly]

u have way more haste than i do, oji

i merely got 17%

its all good really

[grand herald]

17%

Rough

[sudden karma]

Only 17%?

[glossy holly]

i've been particularly unlucky with stupid m+ items

[balmy plinth]

Is the grove boomy weaver build a bit less healing than the cat weaving build in m+?

[grand herald]

A good bit yes

Note this is independent of boomie or cat weaving

Its just grove vs stalker

You can boomie as stalker and have the same healing as cat

[balmy plinth]

Ah I see, oki thanks, will try play around with it

[glossy holly]

bossing sure

[tough portal]

Those are separate choices

Wildstalker is more healing
Chicken is more damage
You can play those 2 together, Wildstalker gains no healing from Catweaving
KOTG can be swapped to for a damage gain but healing loss

[iron oxide]

how do we think this nerf is gonna play out in raid healing? 10% nerf to everbloom seems crazy

[balmy plinth]

So why do people play the grove build if they can do wildstalker and boomy? is it just gameplay diff?

[tough portal]

For damage

[balmy plinth]

Oh right yh, missed that part sry

[tough portal]

The recommendations in our suggested guides is not sacrificing healing for damage like that

But some people may want to, ofc, it's fine, they don't need guide endorsement

[ebon oracle]

It is a 20% nerf to everbloom

[limpid elm]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/rjltcdlyqjbm chat is this real? should i take my dang tokens?

[iron oxide]

50% down to 40% is a 20% nerf?

[main timber]

To its healing yes

[ebon oracle]

Yes. What is 10% of 50?

[iron oxide]

idk math sorry.

[main timber]

[ebon oracle]

That came off as dickish. I didn’t mean it that way. It’s 20%, though.

[torpid shore]

Its ok I think most people in class discords skipped elementary school

[ebon oracle]

I’m trying to skim the discord now to see if they are recommending we skip apex again or if it is still better to run it.

[thorn plover]

You'll run apex.

[iron oxide]

you're ok. I was being sarcastic myself. I woulda got there, but im TERRIBLE at math

[sudden karma]

Have limit to haste ? Now i have 31% pump more?

[thorn plover]

You want ALL the haste

[main timber]

No limit and 31 isn't a special number

[ebon oracle]

You saved me a good amount of skimming. Gracias

[harsh quail]

damn that activated the chat like a sleeper agent

[sudden karma]

So we need to pump how much haste i can

[gentle nova]

I did some quick testing and full apex seems to still be better

[tough portal]

I think there is potential for no Apex again but also Apex is smart healing and it puts a lot of power into a very easy to maintain loop that doesnt suffer from heavy movement like Lura

So Apex will probably still be recommended

[main timber]

Most talents you can swap it for are much harder to maximize yeah

[gentle nova]

Gonna wait till reclear tn

[icy delta]

any cool tips on algareth academy 15+?

[thorn plover]

Push buttons

[swift shuttle]

are rdruids still going to be meta in high end m+?

[icy delta]

yes

[glossy holly]

does chinese have this patch out tho

[haughty ibex]

no china don’t get nerfed

[main timber]

Really doesn't answer the question of what happens after the patch does it

We already know it is meta now

[icy delta]

missed out rdruid getting a nerf?

next patch?

[haughty ibex]

yea buddy 😭

[main timber]

Today

Next day or two in other regions

Details in top pin

[icy delta]

shit how did i miss it 😮 was pushing for title but now?

[deft drum]

if we want as much haste as possible, what should our mastery look like roughly?

[sudden rover]

it's over for you, too late

[tough portal]

I think resto druid meta may be in jeopardy

[main timber]

Just use QE Live for gearing

[tough portal]

But not cuz of nerfs

Cuz of guardian buffs

[main timber]

It depends on what content you are doing

[tough portal]

Brew rdru about to flip to guardian mistweaver

[kind star]

fk this vault reeee

[snow umbra]

Was the aura nerf justified? I knew Apex was overbuffed, but we didn't need an aura nerf before so why now?

[kind star]

time to waste crest on crafted weapon..

[snow umbra]

In fact didn't we get aura buffed by 5% a few weeks ago?

[sudden rover]

im rerolling guardian as we speak

rdruid too dogshit now

[icy delta]

under 6% nerf in m+? Well thats not super rough

[iron oxide]

feels like it was already flipping to MW anyway. they just press SCK and win

[main timber]

Druid will definitely still be very good

[cursive pilot]

6%??? that's more than 0%

[main timber]

Just meta is a weird beast

[silk ice]

Actually it’s over 6%, pin says 6-7%

[haughty ibex]

nah is over bro 😔😔😔😔 need meta spec else can’t get it.

[silk ice]

[icy delta]

in raid not in m+

"little less"

[untold root]

are we still playing capstone for raid after nerfs? it was fun for a few weeks..

[main timber]

Yes

[kind star]

such poop man smh ig ill just take the helm and catalyse and replace my 276 hero helm

back to NPX to use rerolls...

[viral berry]

In raid do people play life bloom on themselves? And I assume with the swiftmend talent you keep life bloom, both rejuvs up 100% of the time. Are you able to extend a wild growth on yourself forever too?

Is there other tech around this life bloom? I'm thinking about how I want to set up my UI

[feral axle]

What are the best trinkets for resto in M + ?

[sudden rover]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/trinkets

[snow umbra]

What are we expecting the healer rankings to look like after this tuning pass?

I was debating with guild and thought

1. MW
2. Pres
3. HPala
   4/5. Disc/Druid
   6/7. Sham/HPriest

[rustic olive]

Is your guild CE? Pushing title?

[cerulean stratus]

okay ur not putting hpal on third

they didnt get 30% aura buff

the nerf is only 7%

[sudden rover]

resto druid is top 8, that's how bad it is now

[gentle nova]

Rdruid is still on top lol

[rustic copper]

LOL

rdruid 4th

[snow umbra]

Will there be a separate WCL fork for this tuning pass?

[rustic copper]

reminder we were played in rwf, massively buffed and these nerfs don't even counter the buff

[snow umbra]

I just did a bit of guesstimation looking at statistics

[cerulean stratus]

you guessed hpal will be third

[haughty ibex]

u should become theorycrafter man

with these rly good opinions

[snow umbra]

The Hpala I play with is very good

[cerulean stratus]

well you based it off statistics

[haughty ibex]

thank god those things aren’t based on personal experiences

[snow umbra]

It's not an opinion, it was just opening a conversation to discussion

[cerulean stratus]

its fine

your guessing was not good cause you overestimate the changes to begin with

[icy delta]

yoda dropped rdruid from S+ to S

[haughty ibex]

i mean u can perform well on every class and underperform on broken classes, base ur stuff on stats and percentages yk

shit do we close class discord

[balmy spire]

Killing vanguard without monks is even possible?^^

[rustic copper]

easily

[rustic copper]

absorb healing on our last kill

[cerulean stratus]

you need revival for dispells

you can kill without but you need 2 mds then normal dispells

[rustic copper]

there was a guild that did it 1 monk very early iirc

for the dispels part

I don't think it is too bad with MD

[balmy spire]

we got 0 monks

[snow umbra]

My guild did 1 monk at like WR 500. Was fine

[balmy spire]

thats why im asking

[cerulean stratus]

then do you have 2 priests

[balmy spire]

shadow/holy , yes

[rustic copper]

I guarentee you it is possible but I would recommend a monk for sure

with vantus the dps check will be very light you can 6 heal and just carry a revival if that is what you want

[snow umbra]

Can you not get a DPS to roll MW as a 5th healer

[balmy spire]

we currently tried it with 4 healers

was the first pulls here

[wary belfry]

mass dispel only gets 5 of them

so just keep that in mind

[thorn whale]

There was 1 guild that did it 0 monks pretty early

[rustic copper]

lol

[gritty nova]

1 monk can cover mass shields

md has nothing to do with that

[cerulean stratus]

just casually jumping in the talk

without knowing why the mds were mentioned

[viral berry]

How do you do so much to absorb? In our kill our rdruid is below the rsham and hpally every week.

I'm imagining you double rejuv the 5 people, life bloom on yourself, keep regrowth hot on everyone, and then pump regrowths into yourself to cleave?

Is there more to it than that?

[balmy spire]

dunno i think we wont get it to alleria then, our heal setup: druid/hpriest/hpala/press evoker

[cerulean stratus]

you can kill it

just convince someone to be your 5th healer

and you do 2x mds, 5 healer dispells and the other 5 just have to resist

[balmy spire]

hps over the last 8 wipes

[cerulean stratus]

yea you 4 heal

[balmy spire]

it wont work with 4 heals

not without a monk and not without a disc 😄

[grand herald]

Rdruids should be dominating the absorbs yeah, fully hot yourself, hot and spam RG on other who have absorbs, great success

[rustic copper]

yep

[balmy spire]

if we md dispells we cant md on pull

[rustic copper]

a well timed sotf ns regrowth will also just 1 global 1 or more absorbs

[cerulean stratus]

what the guild that killed with no mw did

[viral berry]

Ohh is this one of the times where you spend SotF on Regrowth instead of Rejuv? It seems like 95% of the time you use SotF on rejuv right?

[dreamy forge]

better race change to dwarf

[rustic copper]

yes

[rare yacht]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YH2cXTGqx4fpKVyR?fight=25&type=healing Hi guys i was my first mythic raid as a resto druid and i kinda suck.. Can someone tell me what i did wrong? also i kinda cried about mana.. is that normal?

[thorn whale]

Honestly we didn’t even plan it that much

People who could immune just pressed it

[spark river]

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes

[thorn whale]

And then MD + Single dispells and some warlocks as well

[left sage]

You can check it on analyser (i'm not sure if thats the best thing, maybe someone know), there are a lot of usefull things 🙂 https://wowanalyzer.com/report/YH2cXTGqx4fpKVyR/25-Mythic+Chimaerus,+the+Undreamt+God+-+Kill+(6:19)/1459-Rooukie/standard

[rare yacht]

yea I"m just checking that looks like im just bad xD

there are so many hots for me to check i hope it will be better when i will play more druid 😄

[left sage]

do you have this lifebloom addon? It's awesome 😄

[rare yacht]

which one?

im using aura at dander right now

[spark river]

Read the stuff that i sent you, read the wowhead guide again, read your talents, watch pov videos from high rated raiders like torty, vrocas, phased

You ll improve eventually

[rare yacht]

I already did that :/ like i know what to do at the paper but in the raid with mechanics and stuff its hard to keep checking everything xD

[runic citrus]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/lifebloomalert this one alerts you when you need to refresh lb

[dreamy forge]

Just need more reps and experience, its all practice. Guides and video's cant teach you everything

[spark river]

Spam hc pugs until you learn the fundamentals

[pastel dragon]

i know it might not be the best place to ask but i imported a MRT profile with reminders for M+ dungeons with sounds. When i test the individual reminder ib the MRT addon menu the correct sound file plays but when i go into an actual dungeon the reminders and sounds are not showing up

[solid hornet]

i think there's an "enable" checkbox on top right - is that checked?

[pastel dragon]

yah i believe this is what you mean, everything is enabled

[solid hornet]

oh for M+

I don't use for M+ someone else will have to weigh in haha

[spring fulcrum]

is there a way to put a duration time on hots, with default raid frames?

[thorn plover]

@sudden rover

[spark river]

THE TECHNOLOGY

IS HERE

[spark river]

No

[pastel dragon]

oh thank gods for that

[thorn plover]

yes with harreks addon

[sudden rover]

lmfao I'm dying

[spark river]

Oh yeah harreks yes

But only default no

[sudden rover]

I can finally track call of the elder druid, god bless

[spring fulcrum]

that replaces the default unit frame ?

[thorn plover]

no, just an addon for it

adds hot placement/timers/colors/etc

[spring fulcrum]

kk ty

[sudden rover]

well this is it, rdruid is now in the gutter

was fun while it lasted

[uncut mica]

how long did it last, a few weeks? 🙁

[sudden rover]

ye more or less

oh well, back to mw

[thorn whale]

💀

[kind star]

alright crafted 285 weapon/belt for now yuge uppies had a 259 wep still 😂

[spring fulcrum]

for m+?

[thorn whale]

It’s not

[sudden rover]

everywhere

[thorn whale]

Cba I go sleep

Stop baiting new players please

[main timber]

Cya

[fluid coral]

hero heart of the wind or litany for m+ ?

[thorn plover]

Crazy they fix coted in cdm before lifebloom

[grave quail]

is lightfused mana potion just garbage in raid compared to the secondary stats potion?

[main timber]

Yes

[grave quail]

I miss my sleepy mana potions

[grave quail]

thank you

[steel cedar]

Noob druid here. Playing for one reason so need a answer xd

What build has the most hots? I like green numbers 🙂

[grand herald]

The builds have no real difference in playstyle

Wildstalker has an additional passive hot i guess

[uncut mica]

wowhead resto druid website is a good place to start

you will find many paths to green numbers

[proven phoenix]

druid is in the gutter

[grave quail]

is there any method behind which potion to use? recklesness if your mastery > haste and primary stat otherwise?

[thorn plover]

recklessness and dont think too hard about it

[silk ice]

The more this propaganda spreads, the more likely druid gets buffed

[grave quail]

gotcha, thanks

[silk ice]

Clearly blizzard balances on vibes because they don’t know numbers

[half star]

Maybe people will leave us alone if we are in the gutter - peace and quiet at last

[silk ice]

Better add it to your pin then

[whole horizon]

damn they really caught on

no mythic option, no delve option, no arcantina

[thorn plover]

im not even doing it this week

[whole horizon]

they really just want ppl to do content they despise

so bad

[silk ice]

Just skip it and wait for the free drop from keys

Next week

[whole horizon]

[sudden rover]

the battleground one is ok guys

queue one and its done

[whole horizon]

thats my marker for "did i login on this character already this week?"

[silent ruin]

Is resto good?

[grave quail]

can I still prepot before pull for another potion during the fight?

I guess its 5m cd so that's not the same as when it was 2min huh

maybe better to use it when needed instead?

[wind night]

Not much point in crafting when we are this crest starved anyway

[spark river]

ritual site one literally takes 2 minutes

[thorn plover]

not doing it takes 0

[tough portal]

Void assault and ritual sites are legit afk for 5 minutes bro

People just whining it's crazy

[whole horizon]

they need to adjust it so it's not all world content

raid/m+/delve should always be one of the options imo

[tough portal]

They need to never put raid in there

Delve is inarguably a worse pick than 3 of those in there this week

Why tf you doing delves man

[whole horizon]

hey i know some people who do

i just want them to keep the tradition of making it shit i was going to do anyways

so its free

if i have to go out of my way to do an event i was never realistically going to do, its not getting done

[distant birch]

i got ritual sites pilled because they drop 20 hero crests for 5min runs

[pastel dragon]

i figured out the MRT reminders thing, i needed little wigs enabled

[distant birch]

bis for noober alts

[pastel dragon]

oh shit i didnt realize, ok

[distant birch]

u gotta unlock last tier though

so it takes like 40mins to get to the point where u can actually do them sadly

[thorn plover]

where did you find this mrt thing, im interested

[whole horizon]

i was even on-board with prey until i realized all the cosmetics were totally whack and uninspired

[thorn plover]

i dont know what a ritual site is, and at this point im too afraid to ask

[proven phoenix]

prey is just glorified wq

really dislike that content

[pastel dragon]

its from Naowhs ui package, i like the MRT reminders for M+ over bigiwigs/littlewigs alerts, i just didnt know i still needed little wigs loaded to get the MRT reminders to play

[uncut mica]

preys aren't great healer content

[whole horizon]

the concept is cool, you're a bounty hunter

they could have executed it better but i would absolutely be farming it if the cosmetics were worth it

[glass crane]

ok you guys win, doc build is dead for high keys, not enough healing to overcome the two talent point loss anymore

[thorn plover]

🪦

[pastel dragon]

for a brief moment we shined so bright though

[fervent mica]

can we pin this?

[glossy onyx]

Druid in the gutter? Need some buffs

[sudden fossil]

are folks playing around with apex vs no apex today?

[proven phoenix]

@main timber is there any reasonable jewellery embellish that isnt a full item itself

[fervent mica]

fkno

[main timber]

Eh I dont think so

[lone echo]

Thank you for your service. Now I dont have to try it out

[half owl]

https://tenor.com/view/wut-gif-23240404

[sudden rover]

Nooo u were the doc ambassador, don’t leave us

[proven phoenix]

wow....

[late frost]

I accidentally used my first roll on NPX specced as guardian. Is it worth starting over to get corespark multitool? I have a 285 crafted already

[dense lantern]

there are other good items in npx anyways

[late frost]

I know. But if I swap to balance/resto I lose that roll. So is getting a myth track weapon over crafted worth losing a roll versus just continue rolling on guardian

[thorn plover]

Wym you lose a roll

[late frost]

The dupe protection resets per loot spec I read

[tough portal]

It does not

[arctic swan]

Hey guys ! I see we get nerfed tomorrow. This nerf is ok right ? I mean it's not devastating or us ? Or it’s terrible ?

[thorn plover]

No it doesn't

[late frost]

Really??

That’s so epic

Thanks!

[thorn plover]

Pins

[tough portal]

I just rolled Skyreach 5 times as balance loot and got a guaranteed guardian weapon after all of it

You can mouseover the bonus roll window and it shows the items you have available to roll

To make sure

[arctic swan]

Wut ?

[thorn plover]

Check the pins

[arctic swan]

Got it ! Ty

[thorn plover]

Can't wait to roll dreamrift and not get the trinket for the 3rd week in a row

[pastel dragon]

oh no.....the approx nerf to out healing in raids is........6 to 7%?

[tough portal]

I dont even get

What the meme is supposed to be

[fervent mica]

i think thats the point /-:

https://tenor.com/view/youth-mad-angry-man-mad-at-youth-gif-3547198

[gentle nova]

Your old grandpa

[tough portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/212765839496052737/1488950095956283463/image0.gif

[gentle nova]

https://tenor.com/view/diddyblud-diddy-einstein-albert-einstein-calc-gif-9528529477851089865

[maiden zephyr]

about to do mythic chimaerus, is there a new raid build to try out?

[clever cipher]

Hehe

[fervent mica]

nope

[spark river]

Me too

[vast rapids]

Same, I’m hoping it will drop and offset some of the nerfs. Still running AA coaching trinket and HoW.

On my alt I won the roll and didn’t even need to send bonus rolls on it

[fervent mica]

my dps alt hit puzzle box first roll and then gaze after the refund... lol

just means my druid gets nothing

[wheat grove]

any change to the raid build considering the healing nerfs?

[fervent mica]

nope

[vocal bluff]

In M+ do we apply Lifebloom to the tank or on ourselves with the apex changes? or just whoever needs it?

[fervent mica]

whoever needs healing

[vocal bluff]

Thanks!

[thorn plover]

I don't either but my kids say it's cool

[weary moss]

Were we top raid heals before this nerf?

If not, why nerf?

[gentle nova]

We were in meme fights that favor rdruid design

:3

Aka having 400k raw hps on self

[rugged ore]

Hi all!

[marsh prism]

my turn vault

nvm i log off

[rugged ore]

So, I'm 270 and a couple of +10 done as high timed keys, should I be concerned after these nerfs for the rest of the season, I'm a casual player.

[fervent mica]

it can't be terrible if we pretend it doesn't exist

[marsh prism]

no

[rugged ore]

Thanks, reading threads looks like the nerfs affects more to high level keys, rigth?

[thorn plover]

It affects everyone equally

[tough portal]

Everything affects everyone, if you're doing content that challenges you you may always feel a change, but at a 10 you're not pushing the limits of the spec, certainly, and a ~5% nerf in M+ healing is not problematic for any key level for us

Spec does bonkers HPS

[rugged ore]

Yes, a -3% of healing affects to everyone for sure, but I mean to be noticeable

[tough portal]

Do you feel like your healing is strained in the content you play?

[rustic copper]

I do not think anyone can notice their character being 5% stronger or weaker

[weary moss]

Is it live?

[silent ruin]

but my 5k healing parse /jk

[whole horizon]

yes

[rugged ore]

I will to get an answer for this in a couple of days, right now I'm only reading and gathering information after the update. Thanks so much for your annotations.

[weary moss]

Ok then yeah I haven’t noticed it, apex still toppping people

[formal fjord]

we consistently were yes

[thorn plover]

In NA ya

[formal fjord]

ah yeah it can all feel overwhelming, my biggest suggestion is to learn to keep lifebloom at 100% then once you have mastered that, like 95+ then move onto the next thing.

[jaunty gale]

same talent build as last week?

for raid?

[thorn plover]

Yes

[stiff ruin]

So what raid talents are we doing now

[main timber]

Read the question directly above yours

[thorn plover]

[jaunty gale]

on paladins are you primarily keeping bloom on yourself?

[gentle nova]

Yeah and get an absorb

[peak jay]

Is everbloom still the move after the nerf? :S

[thorn plover]

read 6 lines up

[peak jay]

Ahh oops, came into raid and forgot to look it up first. Thanks!

[analog skiff]

Yo

[thorn plover]

hi fren

[analog skiff]

Remember when i said double swiftmend feels better

[thorn plover]

maybe

[analog skiff]

My first interaction eith you

[thorn plover]

in the long long ago, yes i remember

🧙‍♂️

[analog skiff]

Just checked dreamgrove site

[thorn plover]

whats a dreamgrove

[dense lantern]

wym what's a dreamgrove

[thorn plover]

actually, this site must be legit

[analog skiff]

😀

[analog skiff]

Thats not kotg

[dense lantern]

anyways while I might agree with the statement please note that the builds on dreamgrove are also targeted towards quick offspec situations and therefore they might suggest talents that are slightly suboptimal but easier to play

[analog skiff]

Since i have expert here

[dense lantern]

not claiming that this is necessarily the case, but prosperity do be harder to fuck up than vi

[analog skiff]

i had so many q last time that ppl insulted me i wnna ask you now 😀

[sudden rover]

Fuck prosp

[thorn plover]

i think vi is easier 🤨

[dense lantern]

sure go ahead, mind you the green name is for balance and my knowledge for this season is mostly limited to m+

(for resto that is)

[thorn plover]

be watching people consume the rejuvs theyre trying to spread

[analog skiff]

I need it for resto since raid is pretty easy rn with everbloom

[dense lantern]

also sorry you got insulted

[thorn plover]

no one insulted him

hes being dramatic

[dense lantern]

I would consider playing VI in Skyreach, Seat and MT

[analog skiff]

Well why VI and not prosp ( i like prosp better bcs more powered rej snd rgrth ) also why not harmonious blooming ? Why wild sintesys and not the improved seiftmend

[gentle nova]

Whats prosperity for, catching up your hots when you missplayed ?

[west topaz]

i like how the m+ dungeon guide section on dreamgrove is just blank lol

[royal helm]

what key level are you doing

[west topaz]

even though it's been weeks n weeks

[dense lantern]

You want to write it?

[marsh prism]

I'm da expert

[dense lantern]

[marsh prism]

I wrote da page

[west topaz]

no cause i think most of us dont really need one at this point

so it's alright

but then it might as well be removed???

[marsh prism]

hi boss

[dense lantern]

Not m+ expert

[sudden rover]

[marsh prism]

I love to do the raid

[analog skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/what-should-i-do-sensei-bob-ferguson-sensei-sergio-one-battle-after-another-sensei-sensei-sensei-please-gif-12453573734099798525

[marsh prism]

Lmao wait

LMAO

I just read the context in which that was brought up

good shit man that's exactly what Im here for (evidence against those who U feel wronged by)

anyway I stand by prosperity

[analog skiff]

😄

[dense lantern]

VI allows you to spend less GCDs casting bad healing spells and more GCDs casting good healing spells. Prosp allows you to proc sotf back to back and overall can result in more swiftmend casts depending on the route. VI is generally better for long pulls where every GCD counts (eg void guys in seat, last boss in skyreach, void guys + last boss in MT)

[sudden rover]

[marsh prism]

I think it's more likely offspec healers would go to press swiftmend for actual healing more than they would wisely hold it or use it to extend lb

[daring summit]

bro what do i take

[dense lantern]

Prosperity is good for very bursty pulls and allows you to recover in groups that miss play

[daring summit]

lowkey wanna keep that rod on me

[dense lantern]

E.g. I think the first pull in Windrunner is a good example

[analog skiff]

So for my case its perfect with pugs

[dense lantern]

2x swiftmend are way more efficient at healing stray bolts that might go through

[thorn plover]

its a choice node

and it has 2 good choices

[analog skiff]

Trying to push 18 and it feels impossible with VI for me

[marsh prism]

Soo true

[sudden rover]

Sim it

[analog skiff]

RS with prosp feels like you have one swift permanetly

[sudden rover]

If u like prosp then play prosp, but i think 95% of druids in high keys play vi soooo

[dense lantern]

Harmonious Blooming is a decent node, it's biggest downside is that mastery stacks have diminishing returns so it's less valuable than it sounds

And there are other good nodes you can take instead

[dense lantern]

That means nothing

[high hawk]

sad to get nerfed when MW is still crazy in raid

[daring summit]

bruh

not the leech too

[sudden rover]

Sure, the top players all overwhelmingly picking the same talent means nothing

[dense lantern]

And the improved swiftmend is pretty bad because you're not really casting swiftmend for the healing

[rustic copper]

went the wrong lootspec and got rewarded

[sudden rover]

Easiest choice lol pick that gaze

[rustic copper]

LLLLLL

[analog skiff]

With VI ig

[pulsar kettle]

blindly following raiderio talent sheets

[thorn plover]

even with prosp, SM isnt for healing

[dense lantern]

The swiftmend healing is the same regardless of prosp/vi

[high hawk]

low effort troll

[thorn plover]

sm is for buffing rejuv/regrowth

[wary belfry]

its not unusual for similarly performant talents to not reflect that in popularity. Like most people just play whatever the top person plays

[analog skiff]

No i mean u can use it rgrth into swifftmend so u insta consume the sotf proc + the improved swft gonna top the player

[dense lantern]

To be clear, there are instances in which the SM healing is very helpful in topping someone that has a ST dot, or got bolted right before an AOE etc

[thorn plover]

whats sm hit for

[analog skiff]

Yye

[dense lantern]

But it's not worth the talent

[thorn plover]

under 60k avg hit

[analog skiff]

makes sense

[dense lantern]

You can do that with both prosp and vi

[analog skiff]

Y ik i mean its 100% healed

with increased sw heal +rgrth with sotf proc + reducing the swiftmend cd

[dense lantern]

Anyways it's there just in case. Hiding/showing it is more effort than not

Also I tell myself everyday that today's gonna be the day I write something

But it's a lot of effort

[lunar sun]

Prosperity is comfy. With VI are people sending swiftmend on cd then holding sotf? It just feels like there a lot of spots where I want swiftmend on demand to lay on hands the group with ns regrowth.

[analog skiff]

Which lead to another question when we use VI do we swiftmend the lb or we swiftmend to heal lowtargrt and benefit from renewing surge

[dense lantern]

You mend the lb

[analog skiff]

This tbh

[ornate raft]

wheres the best raid guide i can find rn

[analog skiff]

Then why the talent point in rs and not ysera lets say

[thorn plover]

wowhead

[lunar sun]

I am convinced vi is better, it’s just so much more efficient

But it’s kinda hard to make the adjustment mentally

[dense lantern]

This is the main reason I am also a big defender of prosp. But the opposing argument is that if you play properly you can align sotf with damage instances anyways

[analog skiff]

U have 12 sec

[lunar sun]

Ahh the git gud argument 🙁

[analog skiff]

for one sotf proc

[urban bone]

I just like not having to recast lb and other hots so often

[tough portal]

Damn actually good examples in favor of VI

[formal fjord]

wowhead

[tough portal]

Altho I would argue last boss Skyreach is not that

[analog skiff]

But u save 3 gcd

[lunar sun]

Like I feel I have to be very planned with Vexamus

[tough portal]

The laser parts are major respite

[daring summit]

mistweaver

[dense lantern]

Because a lot of your healing comes from the things that are procced by swiftmend

Rather than sm itself

And having more sm casts = good

[analog skiff]

Can we argue about the lifebloom gcd ? U can manuever it to whoever needs st heal with prosp and not extend with vi

[dense lantern]

You're losing apex stacks tho

[dense lantern]

Sorry, not sure what this means

[tough portal]

You dont have to argue for Prosp with vinter, afaik

[dense lantern]

Oh that there's no healing there

[tough portal]

He's already on your side

[terse elbow]

For those of u using feather do yall typically bind it to convoke for M+ or press it separately or ???

[tough portal]

Yeye you can recover Swiftmend charges + use that time to maintain some Rejuvs without pressure

Prosp also gives you a bigger leash on RS CDR from Convoke Swiftmends

[analog skiff]

Yes but the burst st heal > lifebloom stacks no? With vi the whole gamplay is extending lb and keeping it on 1 guy while eith prost is having huge spikes but also insane st to the lb target

[tough portal]

Where you often just miss out on value there with VI

[tough portal]

Yeah definitely, the LB stacks are a bit overrated in these conversations sometimes

[analog skiff]

I dont i just want to hear different opinion than mine and purr 😀

[analog skiff]

Right ?!

[dense lantern]

You want to purr?

[rustic copper]

mw is the same no

[daring summit]

idk i was mw

[analog skiff]

Not this purr

[rustic copper]

mw has the same weapon pool as us almost right

tank lootspec will have the same agi weapons and caster lootspec has everything but daggers?

full off offhands and shit

[tough portal]

The extended healing windows are big moments for VI to shine like vinter mentioned. And with Prosp, I think it tends to shine more in situations where you can SOTF Regrowth often, but that also means more manual Rejuvs

[vivid owl]

How do we deal with the laser dot/stacks on skyreach on high keys? Seems a bit crazy 😂 (on last boss)

[dense lantern]

But yes, for sure. However I also think that there aren't many situations where you have the time to move lb, and cast 2x mend rg

[analog skiff]

or u can rej and rgrth >.>.

And keep one stack always because u sw low hp targets to abuse the cd reduction

[dense lantern]

And if you're casting just one sm after moving lb then VI is actually better in that case no?

since you're doing the same healing but the target has 1 extra hot

[analog skiff]

It can be sw > rej not rgr u abuse the sotf on rej also

[rotund geode]

I've heard the Starfire spam build is dead, is there any change related to it

[thorn plover]

Yeah the BI bug got fixed

[rotund geode]

What is BI bug

I didn't know there was a bug

[dense lantern]

Idk what there is to abuse tho. I feel like sm rg is often just stronger

[analog skiff]

Idk when i played sotf i had always sw stack just in case if one sotf wasnt enough and now i. Need to soam rgr and hope dps use def

[analog skiff]

The mastery

[tough portal]

Right, sure, yes, I'm just saying that the situations where Prosp shows its advantages are when you can leverage RS CDR and land 3 Swiftmends in a short window that VI could only cast 1, and those tend to also mean SOTF Regrowth.

[analog skiff]

Y

[severe shoal]

14 kills, 3 vaults and 3 bonus rolls later 😭

[gentle nova]

You lost 3 hots in the process and didnt extend 3 hots so you gotta spend those 6 gcds of prep healing

[dense lantern]

Mostly because of rampant growth + pota

[tough portal]

So you can SOTF Rejuv before that moment, but then for the next damage event in 15-20s, you'll have to manual Rejuv more

[analog skiff]

Isnt it the same with VI

[tough portal]

With VI your Swiftmends are at least extending 2 Rejuvs

And you're playing under this condition already that you won't have all these SOTF Regrowths on that damage window

[gentle nova]

Vi extension is so good for the target, it just receives infinite healing and it doesnt even have to be the lb target

[tough portal]

Mind you, I think Prosp clears VI any day of the week

[gentle nova]

You can vi a 2 rejuv wg target and thats already 4 mastery stacks + the lb target is invincible anyway

[analog skiff]

Idk bout that

[gentle nova]

Huh

[analog skiff]

2 rej might work on maintaining

[dense lantern]

Ok but what about the rest of the group

[tough portal]

And with Prosp you can SM 2 targets, sometimes 3 in a damage event that VI could have only done 1.

[hardy canopy]

lb in keys is not like raid

mattiu

[gentle nova]

You get 2 rejuvs and a wg extension, also an implant

Even if it doesnt have lb it will take infinte healing from regrowths

[gentle nova]

I dont vi a lb in m+

[analog skiff]

Ok and the rest?

[gentle nova]

The lb target is also covered and the last target is a dk

[analog skiff]

tank?

[dense lantern]

What's your highest key mattiu?

Genuinely curious, not trying to rio check you

[gentle nova]

A 18 i think

WS

[analog skiff]

prem gr ?

[spare sand]

VI all the way so i can keep my aug evoker alive whole dung

these squishy little bastards

[hardy canopy]

i see the future and the aug still dies with all hots including lb

because most of them are dogshit

[dense lantern]

(they stood in shit)

[spare sand]

well

yeah

[quiet field]

bonusroll give me tier again, on same dificult, its a bug?

[analog skiff]

With 2 scales avaiable

[spare sand]

but still with full hots + vi extending im keeping him alive for as long as i can

cause every dot hits him 50% harder than others

[hardy canopy]

idk shit about evoker but there's no way aug is super complicated that every time i play with one i want to just slash abandon

[analog skiff]

Its not at all

[hardy canopy]

literal floor pov

[obsidian valley]

is going cat in keys not a thing anymore?

[spare sand]

go cat bro dont listen to them (i dont play cat)

[marsh prism]

we still convoke + hotw cat

[obsidian valley]

go cat, tank gets smacked for 80%

[brittle sedge]

is there a new m+ build with the nerfs or nah

[spare sand]

if tank cannot survive without healer he is no tank

remember

[dense lantern]

aug is genuinely squishier than the rest of the meta classes

but I'm playing mage and living just fine so

skill issue

also no, rotation is braindead

[obsidian valley]

oh..I've just not gone cat and convoked regular

[spare sand]

only thing you do for tank is IB and thats even rare

sometimes hell get a hot from sotf

[marsh prism]

that's also fine I just meant for damage

[spare sand]

i guess

[dense lantern]

This is not true

Not this season

[analog skiff]

Wtf

[tough portal]

They pressed scale at 20% HP after taking 80% of the damage event already

[marsh prism]

of course using your healing cooldown to heal is fine

[spare sand]

works for me

[dense lantern]

What keys

[analog skiff]

Average dps in pug

[tough portal]

Aug players are the old hunters who pressed Exhil out of combat

[spare sand]

mostly 19s 1x 20

18*

[dense lantern]

Then I'm playing only with shit tanks

[hardy canopy]

like my friends tell me oh we need caut and eons to make this key easier

and i say it will be easier if i don't have to care about an aug

[analog skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

The tank:

[obsidian valley]

so..they are all brews..right?

[spare sand]

Yes

are there any other tanks?

[obsidian valley]

yeah the tank that took 80% was prot pal so

[spare sand]

oh

[analog skiff]

Ye me 2

[obsidian valley]

all the brews have blown past my pleb keys

[dense lantern]

(he's doing +5s)

[obsidian valley]

cant even find tanks for 5

[spare sand]

the best practice to find tanks for your 5

is switch to tank

and thats sad but so true

and guardian is casual friendly up to like 13s

[tough portal]

Example of the longer leash for RS CDR through Convoke

I love Prosp man

[spare sand]

thats a lot of swiftmends

[analog skiff]

Looks like all colored name guys here love it

[tame galleon]

Everbloom solidly 12% on m lura

[analog skiff]

Waiting for my color too ig

[marsh prism]

mods make him mute red

you heard him

[analog skiff]

huh

[obsidian valley]

wait I've been triple applying lb the entire time, oh no

I cant read

[analog skiff]

[marsh prism]

you dumb fuck

[obsidian valley]

I havent healed since like bfa

[marsh prism]

[obsidian valley]

not my fault

[spare sand]

[marsh prism]

being a boomy is100% ur fault

[obsidian valley]

I'm just a healer tourist

lost in the queue simulator

[marsh prism]

do you think I should make a note of that on my offspec guide section lmao

[dense lantern]

I love playing a class that no one pushes with. I timed a 18 and jumped 500 world ranks

[marsh prism]

is this common

[dense lantern]

[dusty wasp]

is there a tier list of trinkets? I cant decide if mythic emberwing/heart of wind is better than heroic coach whistle

[obsidian valley]

maybe? depends on if the user reads the talents

I do not

[analog skiff]

@dense lantern @tough portal what keys do you guys do btw

[obsidian valley]

and did not

[analog skiff]

Wowhead

[marsh prism]

questionablyepic.com/live/trinkets

don't suggest static lists

[dusty wasp]

That doesnt break down like.. heroic vs mythic like bloodmallet would for dps

[marsh prism]

use the site I said + top gear

[dusty wasp]

I'll check out QE thank you

[dense lantern]

Currently pugging 18s

[marsh prism]

np got you

[analog skiff]

Simming as healer is a joke tbh not accurate

[dense lantern]

(as a mage)

[analog skiff]

Wtf

[obsidian valley]

[marsh prism]

ok bud

[dusty wasp]

as I suspected myth heart of wind and emberwing are kinda the easiest to get for a non-raider

[dense lantern]

dead class

[obsidian valley]

if my keys are anything to go by they do die the most, yes

[dense lantern]

I mean he is true

[obsidian valley]

defensive at 5% class

[dense lantern]

Partially

[analog skiff]

Like it or not thats the thing check each healer disc u want

[dense lantern]

It's not accurate, but it's the best way there is to choose gear anyways

[analog skiff]

Not the first and not gonna be the last thats says that

[analog skiff]

Y

[dense lantern]

But I wouldn't go as far as calling them a joke

[thorn plover]

tank getting gaze over me

fml

[analog skiff]

Deserved tbh

[thorn plover]

rude

[analog skiff]

for being such a nasty toxic prick

[thorn plover]

wow

[analog skiff]

since day 1

[marsh prism]

not right enough to be saying it in this server when someone is actively asking for help about trinkets

[dense lantern]

No yeah sure

[analog skiff]

0 positive vibes

[dense lantern]

I mean it was a crazy statement idk why I defended it

[analog skiff]

But its true that simming as healer is shihh

[dense lantern]

What does this even mean?

Like, what are you really trying to say?

[marsh prism]

it's not simming

and that's fine

[analog skiff]

its not accurate

[dense lantern]

Ok and?

[analog skiff]

Nothing

[dense lantern]

Neither dps sims are

[analog skiff]

they are better

[dense lantern]

Ok and?