#resto

1 messages · Page 85 of 1

rustic copper
#

anyone know how many crests M chim gives?

rustic copper
#

wicked

thorn plover
#

amirdrassil time

half star
#

Heroic Alleria, Belo, and Lura give 10 each

#

You can also convert heroic crests to mythic crests if you’ve outgrown hero crests

rustic copper
#

this information saves me from doing a key 🤮

sudden rover
#

looks dope, what is it? I'll use it for my dogvoker

raw pecan
#

you can get the raw hotfix using wow.tools.local or you can watch the simc github spelldatadumps

half star
#

Yep, that’s why I have this info 😂

plush tide
#

lmaooo

cursive pilot
#

keystone loot

thorn plover
#

whats this addon

cursive pilot
sudden rover
#

can it track call of the elder druid tho?

urban bone
#

QE saying to take this, seems alright? bit behind maledict but maybe the leech evens it out? otherwise im taking an extra bonus roll

sudden rover
#

do u have maledict mythic

fleet jewel
#

tuff blud said bit behind...

urban bone
#

no but i mean i will "soon" with bonus rolls

sudden rover
#

nah take this and invest rolls somewhere else

#

#imo

thorn plover
#

this is better

main timber
#

Yes you will wear this all tier

cursive pilot
urban bone
#

ye i thought so ty

cursive pilot
#

yes

sudden rover
#

when do they add a catch up mechanic for crests this is so annoying

#

farming 600 crests with +10 each key

fierce isle
#

do higher keys they drop more crests

sullen plume
#

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/sbihbcznezvm Would i be stupid for taking vaelgors over the whistle? i dont mythic raid so mythic raid trinkets are...unlikely, maybe i can pug chimaerus later for gaze but thats probably the only one i have even a shot at. i do offspec boomchicken occasionally and vaelgors is nice for that

thorn plover
#

whistle isnt great

#

anymore

#

it tells you vaelgor and whistle are approximately the same

sullen plume
#

yeah thats how im reading it. shame my holy pally alt gets all the vault luck lol, heroic gaze in his

sturdy chasm
abstract tulip
#

going to craft the chest. i dont want to mess up the stats i should do haste/mastery? im currently at 8/39/29/9 (crit,haste,mastery,vers) current chest has haste mastery

thorn plover
#

yes

abstract tulip
#

and can i do arcanoweave linning? i already have a belt with it on it. and weapon has the hunt

thorn plover
#

you cant have 3

abstract tulip
#

oh

thorn plover
#

if you still have crafted weapon, dont put anything on the chest

abstract tulip
#

okay leave it blank i can do that

thorn plover
#

when you replace the weapon eventually, then you recraft the chest

late portal
#

So with the +10 ivl voidcore thingos, is it a misplay to go for 1h+offhand?

abstract tulip
#

thank you ❤️

thorn plover
chilly wind
#

what should i take for M+

smoky dagger
#

hello, sorry I am new here and i don't see it in the ping so i ask it here, but do we expect the "dps" spec with dream of cenarius to be fixed / nerfed ?

brittle sedge
#

shoudl I be opening vault as balance?

abstract tulip
haughty ibex
#

lmk if u have other questions for him

bright swift
haughty ibex
#

next patch trust

polar lichen
#

do we like leech

#

debating shoulders with leech from vault vs tokens for 1 more bonus roll on like literally anything

#

dont have myth shoulders yet

brittle sedge
#

wondering if I shoulld open vault as balance for higher chance at trinkets?

sturdy chasm
#

Is there a reason why in game and logs differs a lot on m lura?

thorn plover
#

because in game meters are trash

haughty ibex
sudden rover
#

you americans are lucky, vault now. I have to sleep first yikes

sturdy chasm
#

Whats wrong with in game meter if we dont count double dipping on absorbs?

thorn plover
#

its just inaccurate

haughty ibex
#

literally everything is wrong

#

u cant see half ofthe stuff

#

and the other half is inaccurate

sturdy chasm
#

First time im hearing its inaccurate

#

And why is it only on m lura?

thorn plover
#

its not

haughty ibex
#

it isnt?

thorn plover
#

its everywhere

haughty ibex
#

on every type of content is inaccurate

#

both dps and hps wise

sturdy chasm
#

Cant say ive seen a big difference except for bosses that have absorbs

haughty ibex
#

how can usay that

#

when dps meters show always higher healing than logs

sturdy chasm
#

not high enough for me to take notice and start wondering if something is different about either rdruid or the encounter

sudden rover
#

i think details/blizzard dps meter considers overhealing as hps which is total bs

solar hollow
haughty ibex
sudden rover
#

sim it

haughty ibex
#

is not rdruid or lura specifically

sturdy chasm
#

Do you have any source on that?

#

I know the absorbs is known but i think you are just wrong with the other part

sudden rover
#

it's just common knowledge

#

dps meter fucking sucks

sturdy chasm
#

Okey, so during intermission you get a healing absorb so if i just count that twice logs and in game are within 2k hps

haughty ibex
#

open the game and check for urself type shit

haughty ibex
sturdy chasm
#

I didnt think there were healing absorbs on the fight so i came here to ask

haughty ibex
#

trying to calculate mid fight ur hps

#

after pull u can just check logs and see wassup

sturdy chasm
#

I noticed a difference and was wondering why

#

So, it is Lura specifically (among others)

thorn plover
sturdy chasm
#

Thats bad wording because there are a lot of fights with absorbs but it feels hidden here

haughty ibex
#

is everything

supple seal
#

It’s not just absorbs. I think you are missing the point.

haughty ibex
#

is not only absorbs

knotty yew
#

this trinket good for healing? idc about dps really. wowhead doesn't mention it at all

merry mulch
#

no

sturdy chasm
supple seal
#

You really are trolling aren’t you

#

I can’t tell

sturdy chasm
#

How do you want me to formulate it so you dont think im trolling?

haughty ibex
#

but just go

#

do anything literally any type of content

#

log it

#

check dps meters

#

check log

#

and see for urself man

sturdy chasm
#

Are we talking aug here or?

lethal lichen
haughty ibex
#

???

#

no

lethal lichen
#

2 am convo

haughty ibex
#

we are talking about EVERY class in the game

#

EVERY type of content

sturdy chasm
#

I guess there arent that many bosses that doesnt have an absorb. Some bosses you never care to compare but lura was the first boss where i cared enough about the difference to ask

haughty ibex
#

BRO

#

FNNRNDHSHAHAHAGAAAAAAAA

#

is not only absorbssssssss

lethal lichen
#

Chill

haughty ibex
#

but how can u ask the same question 10x in a row

#

and get answers 10x in a row

sturdy chasm
lethal lichen
#

Just check logs absorbs + mitigation
Damage meter in game suck bc blizz don't wanna fix any issues with game

sturdy chasm
#

And im saying i havent experienced it

haughty ibex
#

yeah ok and

#

is there

lethal lichen
#

Another logs of ur wanted classspec

sturdy chasm
lethal lichen
#

Yeh

pulsar kettle
#

the inaccuracy between ingame meters and logs is pretty evident if you spend like...5 minutes looking at it

supple seal
#

Everything. Every. Thing.

haughty ibex
#

5 seconds looking at it

lethal lichen
#

Dps meter don't included this

haughty ibex
#

dps meter doesn’t include half of the stuff that it used to / what logs contains

#

dps meter in game is not accurate both hps and dps wise

#

not only for absorbs, not only for mitigations, is not accurate nor complete

sturdy chasm
#

Dps wise it havent been since aug. Hps for a raid encounter i feel like its been okay

lethal lichen
#

Yeh

haughty ibex
#

it hasn’t

lethal lichen
#

Nah

haughty ibex
#

and dps wise is not accurate either even without aug:D

#

esp for some classes, but that’s beyond the point

rare bear
#

Hi!!! Good evening, i just timed like 4 17s now but, could you please help me? I’d like to know what I can improve

red dew
#

screenshot doesnt really show anything

supple seal
#

The meter also doesn’t properly record segments. Sometimes reset during intermissions or when boss or add spawn new mobs.

lethal lichen
red dew
#

show a log, or ask a real question

topaz cedar
red dew
onyx trail
red dew
#

Lake omg hi

onyx trail
#

yo

red dew
#

Have you been playing leagues

onyx trail
red dew
#

Reasonable. I’m not either, I got burnt out just before release so I’ll probably miss it all

onyx trail
red dew
#

Yeah same. Too much wow now sprinkled w d4. I did want the thrall reskins but 8k points seems like a lot so idk if I’ll do it

weary hatch
#

Is there a way to track mob CDs now?

abstract tulip
#

raid time soon boys and girls wish me luck today!

#

we convinced raid leader to not try and 5 heal 1st boss in mythic 🙂

thorn plover
#

lmao

abstract tulip
#

this is why i need wished luck

pulsar hill
#

I keep forgetting, how do we sim healing?

abstract tulip
hollow pond
#

anyone else have issues with ayije cdm blocking your ability to roll on gear

thorn plover
#

good addon

pulsar hill
thorn plover
#

weekly chest payin out that g

spring burrow
pulsar kettle
#

114k?

#

noway

thorn plover
#

you are just not pushing buttons

#

the logs are 2 weeks old

thorn plover
#

also you have no recent logs, things will look different now than they did 2 weeks ago

spring burrow
thorn plover
#

lifebloomalert will literally yell at you to cast lifebloom

#

any of them will work tho

#

your old weakauras probably work too

supple seal
#

And you can change wha it says too. Love lifebloomalert

spring burrow
thorn plover
#

make sure you look up the latest talent build

#

it has changed

spring burrow
karmic dawn
#

in 12+ keys, do we spend soul on rejuv or regrowth? or kinda depends? ive been using it on rejuv a ton lately and health bars barely move

thorn plover
#

depends

oak garnet
#

Depends but 90%+ rejuv

thorn plover
#

but mostly rejuv unless you have multiple people needing topped

karmic dawn
#

ok thats what i was thinking, between soul on rejuv and wild growth, i can keep health bars high very very often

#

and refreshing lifebloom

opal hare
#

Is there any benefit of directly casting regrowth on our lifebloom target as opposed to not?

oak garnet
#

Wg on cd if your mana can handle it. it procs a free sym bloom and that shit is op

autumn vessel
#

i feel like im constantly oom, i try to drink inbtwn pulls but i cant keep up

clever cipher
#

How dare they fix it @tough portal

#

And ALSO why tf was blooming infusion so buggy for me anyway

tough portal
#

Which one of the 4 Starfire build bugs?

clever cipher
#

Sometimes 2x rg on non LB targets would proc blooming infusion sometimes it wouldn’t

thorn plover
#

k now fix cleave damage

clever cipher
clever cipher
#

I’ve been playing Boomie in my weeklies so haven’t really gotten to play with the keeper builds

opal hare
#

Does regrowth get the same benefit from nature's swiftness for all 3 targets if you use it with soul of the forest?

gentle nova
#

No

thorn plover
opal hare
#

so the other 2 targets only get a normal regrowth?

opal hare
#

well i guess with the soul of the forest buff, but not the 95% from NS

gentle nova
#

They get a sotf rg

sacred wasp
clever cipher
oak garnet
#

Altho the blooming infusion fix is definitely a nerf it won't change the elder druid window hps much, outside maybe the first starfire being less likely 200 %

cyan minnow
robust zenith
#

Any knowers if this is a nerf or a buff

#

Going to need an expert @proven phoenix

ruby tulip
#

They talked about it being a buff in the pinned message

nocturne vortex
#

any tips on what spell to macro this to for m+?

#

convoke is 1 minute cooldown but thats what I was thinking

#

typically convoke is when im gonna want the haste

grand trout
#

Is this even an upgrade since I would be losing my weapon emblishment? M+ only toon**

tough portal
#

Yes if you have another crafted piece to put an embellishment on

tough portal
#

Or just use for damage (HOTW)

nocturne vortex
#

so dont even trinket it just put it on a keybind by itself

#

dont even macro it*

#

ive never used an on use trinket in my life lmfao im TRYING

carmine heron
#

Think I asked this in the wrong channel. Going for hero Gaze and unfortunately got tier which I do not need. Do the rolls not stack on reset?Im a little confused on how the system works. I thought there would be 4 charges for this reset increasing by 2 each week but there are still only 2?

clever cipher
#

Wait if we're playing 2 min voke does that make hero vaelgors better than a myth heart?

clever cipher
#

Not that I'm subscribing to 2 min voke propaganda

nocturne vortex
#

2 minute convoke can eat me

tough portal
#

I dont think so, 2 min Convoke isnt any better burst healing than 1 min

#

It's just available less often to pick some other random talent whoever had the idea of doing

pearl vine
tough portal
#

But you trade 2 heals for the lower chance to proc Tranq on it

marsh prism
#

idk what spec to open in

#

does balance get ribbon

#

yeah ok

#

its literally that fucking simple

#

imagine not getting a ribbon

#

thatd be really embarrassing

raven stirrup
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

marsh prism
#

yeah fuck you should have just looted ribbon for real

raven stirrup
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

marsh prism
#

dont let it happen again

clever cipher
onyx trail
clever cipher
#

i'm away for reclear this week

#

probs last reclear before Lu'ura prison

raven stirrup
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

clever cipher
marsh prism
#

idr our alleria loot

#

something def went to transmog

#

idt we got a ribbon...idk

#

years ago...

glass crane
tough portal
#

Blizzard only fixes chinese tech

#

It's known

sudden rover
#

Are we dropping only doc or entire starfire stuff after the fix?

glass crane
#

feel like that fix is going to make starfire borderline useless outside of call

sudden rover
#

Damn

#

Back to cat then

main timber
glass crane
#

when the competition is swipe then yeah

#

meanwhile my 270 mw will still be perma ripping 60k by holding down sck and healing my group to full all the time

sudden rover
#

Yeah it’s ridiculous

cinder pike
#

why does wowhead guide not show gaze as bis? (it's not in the two trinket slots of the bis list)

tulip nexus
#

yeah being the best healer in m+ and raid isnt enough we should also be able to do most dps in m+

wraith epoch
#

we must do it all

cinder pike
rustic copper
tulip nexus
#

like i expected much worse when i saw druid in the hotfix but then it was a KoTG nerf 😂

unique sedge
sudden rover
#

Our dps is horrible

#

Just nerf heals idgaf but allow us to dps

main timber
cinder pike
#

sorry didn't mean to be annoying. just figured there must have been a reason that it's not in sync.

marsh prism
#

because why sync it when youre meant to use qelive anyway

#

thats a dumb amount of needless effort

cinder pike
#

QElive says it is "buggy" so i thought maybe that was the reason

main timber
#

Yeah it has been the most bugged trinket I've had to write in a guide

cinder pike
#

like some incoming change or w/e

main timber
#

No more changes expected

#

If I re-do the BiS list it will be on there

#

But I'd really prefer people not use BiS lists anymore

craggy hull
#

When does Mastery start outweighing Haste in mythic plus? or is that ever the case?

main timber
woven mesa
#

So Starfire build is dead? No more chicken for keys?

weary moss
polar lichen
#

is qe live gonna tell me when i get there?

pastel yoke
#

im so confused on what talents to play now couse ive been using the wowhead stuff for raids and m+ and then i see other druids in raids pumping out like 30k or more hps. and when i look at warcraft logs and all the mythic kills when i compare is like triple my hps for example

main timber
main timber
#

Your play is 90% of your HPS

pastel yoke
#

my stats are good couse i have 1.2k haste and 770 mastery which my mastery i get to 900 with neck

main timber
#

Yep sounds good. How are your casts looking though?

#

If you have a log we'll be able to give you a lot of advice

sacred wasp
pulsar kettle
tulip nexus
#

well first of all you are not using the wowhead build

#

you dont have apex talents

#

or ws

pastel yoke
#

let me double check couse i did test with different talents

languid parrot
#

Does the hot fix impact our use of Wrath / starsuge and starfire for dps?

marsh prism
tough portal
raven tangle
#

is radiant sunstone a good trink? I dont even see it on icy veins tier list lol, but it seems decent

proven phoenix
#

are you a greg fan

marsh prism
#

no hes greg 2

polar lichen
#

dude went right past copying the top resto druids builds

proven phoenix
#

looking at your mana and looking at your casts

tough portal
#

They said: Babe, you gotta fake it till you make it, and I did.

pastel yoke
#

what i usually do is i put life bloom on myself pre pull and Innervate myself and in that time i hot as many as i can with rejuvs and then wild growth on cd and regrowth when i have 8+ stacks on it and keep hotting with rejuvs and trying to have full uptime with lifebloom on myself and walking to groups

proven phoenix
#

there is no point in super specific advice

#

its not a hard rule for 8+

#

regrowth on damage

#

use every sotf proc on rejuv

#

using regrowth more will both help you healing and fix your mana

pastel yoke
#

and take this?

tulip nexus
pastel yoke
#

what drink?

tulip nexus
#

well any of the teas are best mana gain, sanguithorn tea is super cheap

pastel yoke
#

i ment prepull on raid so i can hot alot of people from beginning

tulip nexus
#

thats what im talking about aswell

pastel yoke
#

but cant drink while combat

grand herald
#

prepull

torn brook
#

I potentially did too many rejuvs but you had 4 swiftmends in the log you linked, you need that pressed on cooldown as it summons trees plus gives you soul of the forest which when spent on rejuvs will cast 3 at a time to build abundance.

formal fjord
#

anyone got the data handy as to why we dont shift to Boomie because of no form bonuses etc?

#

sorry someone in my guild is arguing with me because streamers doing 19s

#

eyeroll

#

please if you have time

mental belfry
#

Caster form gives you haste which makes you cast more spells

Moonkin form gives you mastery which makes you heal more. But if youre casting damage spells why would you want to be healing more.

pastel yoke
torn brook
# pastel yoke and you got a 99 performance score

not really the point, but the make up of the healing is more it - you'll see the baloren one before it had a lot more regrowth healing. The point is more making sure you're actually using all the abilities

formal fjord
pastel yoke
#

so the point of it is i need to use more swiftmends and more regrowths

thorn plover
#

so close to 2:1 regrowth

#

need to wg less and fit more

tough portal
#

That cant be good

gleaming forge
#

hey with the new wildstalker build in raid do you guys run convoke or tree on lura

grand herald
#

convoke

gleaming forge
#

word i remember watching nick in wf do tree so i was just curious what most people run now

#

but that was wild keeper

#

with*

torn brook
# pastel yoke am i seeeing that correctly?

yep, swiftmend on cooldown and if you are using wildstalker then you want to make sure you have yourself stacked with lifebloom, rejuv x 2, regrowth and even wild growth if you can.

You're then using it to stack the mastery, make bigger blooms and theres also a lot of talents that amplify healing on yourself too. The entire spec is designed to work together like that.

fallen wadi
#

Is the recommended build still wildstalker or have people moved back to KOTG? And wondering which one is easier for a new Druid , thanks

torn brook
#

Wildstalker yes, no idea on KOTG but its not being recommended rolling the previous spec where we ignored our Apex talents.

KOTG probably slightly easier, output probably slightly lower

sacred wasp
#

guess who forgot to swap loot spec...

pastel yoke
vestal lotus
#

whys that

torn brook
#

ya'll need to look at the spec tree 😄

tough portal
#

With the bonus roll I took from vault

torn brook
#

one sec, ill take a screenshot and scribble

tough portal
#

I went into the key as guardian and loot spec was set to auto

#

Almost tragedeigh

formal fjord
#

oh no

sacred wasp
#

my heart...

tough portal
grand herald
tough portal
#

That was typically more so to maximize VI value and Rejuv uptime, now it also plays into Everbloom healing

#

With Implant's Symbiotic Bloom proc

vestal lotus
#

16% from forest walk but damn

#

well ill take that into raid moving forward

gleaming forge
#

and 4 % from hero tree

tough portal
tough portal
#

Very nice very big

vestal lotus
#

i need more very nice very big healing

tough portal
thorn plover
#

lose gaze to a pres that already has 2 unreal trinkets

#

im gonna have this delve trinket all season

torn brook
tulip nexus
#

winning gaze is impossible

torn brook
#

you can't get that much on anyone else because some of those talents are unique to the druid and healing itself.

tulip nexus
#

unless most of ur raid got it already

torn brook
#

literally he goes through cycles of ramps

pulsar kettle
#

ew

torn brook
#

and spec including KOTG later on

torn brook
#

😄

#

anyway, hope that was helpful - heading back to work

pulsar kettle
#

well the video loaded into the wrong talent build for raid

torn brook
pastel yoke
#

going hc midnight now lets see

pulsar kettle
gleaming forge
#

So i wasnt doing the lifebloom with all the hots until you guys mentioned it my healing just jumped a ton good looks everyone and thank you

sudden goblet
tough portal
ornate pollen
#

good

sudden goblet
#

wonder whether this affects the secret tech that boost our starfire dmg hmm....

sinful sky
#

in m+ are people keeping lifebloom on tank or themselves

pulsar kettle
#

u move it around

sudden goblet
#

moving it around depends on dmg

ornate pollen
#

you know a run is bad when you have the least damage taken in the group

torn brook
# pulsar kettle sure, read the wowhead guide that's curated by some of the best people to have p...

Whats different? It's literally the wowhead spec that he's showing at the start? https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/restoration/wildstalker/EASUAQUBEgVVVlFSBBBhQBRQVVUVVRFBEEUFFUHQCFUFFVVVUCRQ

Singular difference is typhoon potentially from a spec diff and going into the auto survival instincts (would take wowhead) and then he talked about master shapeshifter being likely the only real option. Everything else is the same?

I dont understand why you would be so quick to shit on someone offering help when all you can come up with is read wowhead. Clearly the person wasn't understanding what they were reading.

All good if you want to shout at clouds dude but a lot of people that need advice aren't exactly pulling Mythic L'ura tomorrow.

ornate pollen
#

are you trolling?

torn brook
marsh prism
#

doing a lot of work

#

a lot of people that need advice aren't exactly pulling Mythic L'ura tomorrow

#

the advice for optimal play isnt different

#

wait fucking huh

#

video title raid guide comment

#

whatever

proud needle
tough portal
#

He's talking about the build in the timestamp the guy linked

#

20 mins in

proud needle
#

Lol the section where I talked about the secondary build, also included on wowhead, after I talked for 20 minutes explaining the meta build choice in detail?

#

👍

marsh prism
#

thats what happens when you put out a long video, people will take chunks of it out of context and no one has the time to watch to clarify to them what they might be interpreting wrong

proud needle
#

People also don't know how to read, so lose/lose many times

tough portal
marsh prism
#

yeah unfortunately i can open up a written guide and control f at least much faster

tough portal
#

I'm not saying anything about the video I didnt watch it

marsh prism
#

i mean thats part of the problem though right

tough portal
#

No I think that's a made up problem

marsh prism
#

how am i meant to vet that

proud needle
#

with my own kneejerk reaction apparently, lol

main timber
#

Yeah videos (not yours specifically) just cause a lot of trouble and so we are negative toward them from the outset. You wouldn't believe what's in some of these.

It is also not possibly to watch them all to be able to work out if they are ok, though I tried at the start of the season

proud needle
marsh prism
#

im not watching a 20+ minute video but i need to make sure wrong advice isnt being given here. nothing to do with you/your videos personally

proud needle
#

Very fair

main timber
#

Yeah the only real solution we've found is to not allow video links

#

In 12.1 I'll go through and watch a bunch again

#

I'll make sure I include yours

white sentinel
#

is there ever too much haste

main timber
#

For raid not really

white sentinel
#

for m+

#

im 38% haste 39% mast

main timber
#

You can use gear tools to check your stats. Since mastery is better in m+ you generally won't end up with "too much" haste

white sentinel
main timber
#

Yep

#

Just flick the switch over to dungeon

stiff ruin
#

Which trinkets are we to be using for Dungeon / Keys?

marsh prism
#

refer to qelive top gear :3

stiff ruin
#

It's telling me to use the trinkets that no one is using 🙁

#

like ribbon and coach whistle...

#

so i'm very confused

marsh prism
#

you might not have what they have?

main timber
#

What great trinket do you have on the same track that it isn't selecting

stiff ruin
#

I just wanted to know what I should be aiming to try to get instead (bonus rolls)

marsh prism
main timber
#

The chart will tell you that and it does not have coach whistle on top

stiff ruin
#

Hopefully I did that right

main timber
#

Whistle is being picked because it's a full track higher

quasi drum
stiff ruin
#

but i clicked on "max ilevel"

marsh prism
main timber
#

The other slot you have very close alternatives and you can kind of pick

marsh prism
#

wait what like for vault pick?

stiff ruin
#

i dont know i guess if iw ere to upgrade to max w crests i assume

main timber
#

Max ilvl is based on the track it's on

marsh prism
#

dont take myth whistle...

#

what does your vault look like

stiff ruin
#

oh i got myth whistle in week 3

#

cuz i had nothing else to choose from

main timber
#

I think this is unrelated to vault

stiff ruin
#

(this was before i knew about voidcores)

marsh prism
#

huh

#

sorry i just assumed it was because i also see the shoulder/chest great vault thing

stiff ruin
#

This isn't a vault thing -

#

hehe

main timber
#

I'd probably wear Whistle + Heart of Wind or Whistle + Ribbon

#

But you are ultimately missing the best trinkets

stiff ruin
#

Which are...?

sudden goblet
marsh prism
#

and crosscheck with the trinkets page i linked before

main timber
#

Gaze of the Alnseer is best of all and will rate highly in upgrade finder for you

#

The 2nd slot is quite flexible honestly

marsh prism
#

but you're going to need to use your brain a little because as you've seen ilvl is relevant and no one is playing with myth whistle

#

of the ones u have id probably also choose heart of wind

stiff ruin
#

dang it

#

okay

#

Gaze and Heart I guess

proud needle
stiff ruin
tight flicker
#

Should we be using our sparks to craft non-embellished mythic pieces to fill in slots now?

stiff ruin
#

so decision is either to use Valgore stare or the ribbon for keys...

#
  • heart
marsh prism
#

thats really just it

digital briar
#

what the hell going on .

marsh prism
#

and i know what the world is like and that illiteracy is an enormous problem and people click videos but that's just always going to be working against yo

marsh prism
main timber
#

YouTube would be so sick if it let you upload an edited version without removing the video

marsh prism
#

it also really doesnt help that like

#

people will absolutely just go into more videos and find an older one and think it's still relevant

marsh prism
#

some random whitename could come in here and post about some weird interaction no one else noticed like 5min after uploading a video and change shit

tough portal
#

Just gotta upload every week

main timber
#

Blizzard are the worst for it honestly. A lot of guide changes are just driven by random hot fixes

marsh prism
#

yeah that too

main timber
#

I cry for anyone who included an early season trinket guide in video format

#

I think we've had triple digit changes

marsh prism
#

they also release notes and ptr notes way too often for me to keep track of what is changing in which patch, etc

marsh prism
wary belfry
#

make a video go viral and then completely change it to a scam to see what happens

proud needle
#

i've completely cut gearing advice out of videos for that reason, changes too frequently. I just refer them to the different resources and give advice for how to cross reference to make decisions for themselves.

main timber
pulsar kettle
hushed heath
#

so what about.. take all the same damage talents for moonkin dmg with call of the elder druid and such BUT, go with wilder stalker. You get the 20% bonus from blooms and moonkin damage is still way higher than cat dmg. Yes you lose the bloodseeker vines but..

Thoughts?

proud needle
#

Well anyways, I know the conversation will switch sooner than I can keep up with with me raiding currently, so I just want to say that if you see anything incorrect and making life for you difficult for you here, please 100% let me know because it's not intentional and I'll get it updated. Have a good night

proud needle
#

Search feature enjoyer to harvest info

pulsar kettle
#

gn bud

proud needle
#

night

pastel yoke
#

so i did some hc trys on Midnight rn and heres the results of it we didnt get it before reset

#

litaei is hero,valegor only champion

quasi pecan
#

is the lura trinket any good

pastel yoke
quasi pecan
pastel yoke
#

its the 5th best

glacial sky
#

Lmao 🤣
Gaze again...
I used Bonus Roll and got it last week and now i get it in vault... GG Blizz Troll 🤣

if i didn't get it last week, i wouldnt have gotten it in vault !

merry mulch
#

looking at m+ builds on WCL, it seems rdruids are taking frenized regen, how are people using this? Sitting in bear form?

marsh prism
#

you have to stay in bear for it to keep working so its not super useful

#

rather than just bearing a hit / ursine vigor

pastel yoke
merry mulch
#

doesnt look like its for pathing

quasi pecan
#

bcs its good

#

xd

marsh prism
rustic copper
marsh prism
#

there is absolutely zero fucking way you are sitting in bear for fregen

merry mulch
#

yeah idk how that would ever work or why its so popular

quasi pecan
#

wdym in some cases u are

glacial sky
#

only time i used Frenzy regen bear was in raid when i was super low hp for some fail run and i used Roar to quickly move and Regen while running away healing 😄

marsh prism
quasi pecan
#

take AA for exemple

#

manafiend dot

#

ur bear forming the last hit

#

so its a free healing gcd

glacial sky
quasi pecan
#

u dont have to wait for the whole frenzy

#

but u have free healing tics from it

pastel yoke
#

couse litany is hero and final stare is champion

rustic copper
#

as soon as you leave bear it cancels

quasi pecan
#

u can just take

#

1 or 2 tics

#

then go out of bear form

#

its saving you 1 or 2 healing gcd afterwards

#

so why not use it ?

pastel yoke
marsh prism
#

again you might as well just flash ursine?

pastel yoke
#

couse its so close together

thorn plover
quasi pecan
thorn plover
#

myth paladins absorbs 🤣

quasi pecan
#

and it feels like a good gcd to press if ur siting in bear form on some spells

#

might be preference

soft dagger
quasi pecan
#
  • u get the 20% healing increased
#

idk feels good

glacial sky
#

is 2 hand staff Haste/Mastery Worth getting to replace my 2-hand Crafted Staff for the extra +3 ilvl or something ? 🤔
or should i just get the hands ? 🤔

formal fjord
rustic copper
#

you'd be better off taking a reroll token and spending it there

glacial sky
#

So you think i better get reroll token than the Hands ? or than the weapon ?

#

let me check npx loots

#

so this 2 hand weapon better ?

#

damn i need to run npx for sure 🤣

wtf how can it be so good for me

#

somehow all my myth tracks are not part of npx

#

so only the trinket and the bad stat ring are "bad roll"

#

everything else is a upgrade from npx

#

Guess i do 3x Bonus Roll there this week 😅

#

i got 4 myth track (5, but one is not being used) + 3 crafted.
non are from npx loot table 😅

tough portal
#

Change loot spec to Balance and that gets rid of the trinket

glacial sky
#

oh sweet thanks ! only the Occu of Void ring is bad stat loot then 😄

hallow fractal
#

is crit that bad even for m+?

sinful jackal
#

Abundance makes u Crit like all the time doesn't it

bright swift
#

No it's just that haste and mastery are just way better

flint jetty
#

ty

#

my vault had a OH mythic track item, if i take that and upgrade it to 6/6, if i go over to a 2h weapon, does it keep any of the upgrades?

cosmic fulcrum
#

sometimes i will swiftmend and my soul of the forest rejuv will just.. not spread. even though my target is in melee. would anyone happen to know why this is? it seems to happen kind of commonly? it's like i don't have sotf at all

flint jetty
#

to soul

#

also it gives that spreat not just to rejuv, but also regrowth hot, so if u hit a swiftmend into regrowth, u consumed the spread on the regrowth hot, then ur rejuv doesnt get it

cosmic fulcrum
#

yeah i know, i swiftmend -> rejuv onto this dk player and it just does not happen

tough portal
#

It can backwards buff the Regrowth too

#

If you hard cast a Regrowth -> queue Swiftmend

#

It can happen that SOTF instantly gets used up by the previous Regrowth cast

#

It's goofy

flint jetty
#

now thats scuffed

cosmic fulcrum
#

ah, i wondered if that's what was happening, thank u

flint jetty
#

i havent noticed that yet

#

good to know tho

cosmic fulcrum
#

can it also do that out of convoke if the last spell convoke cast was a regrowth?

tulip nexus
#

might be the worst vault possible (have crafted staff, better 6/6myth boots already than those

#

+1 bonus roll angle

plain steeple
unique sedge
#

Didnt read the reply above

unique sedge
plain steeple
#

Yeah, if you don’t hammer your buttons it’s fixed now. But if you’re hammering swiftmend after Regrowth, it will always cast sotf on the previous RG.

lament river
#

Is this ring worth to take?

flint jetty
#

so im still wondering what to do, i use a 6/6 hero 2h final grade (returned to game last wednesday), my vault is offering a 272 1/6 mythic track offhand; if i take the OH then upgrade it to a 6/6 mythic, how does effect it if i were to get a 2h drop thats 1/6 mythic track or craft a 2h aln'hara?

bright swift
#

Wouldn't take an offhand

flint jetty
#

i donno if i should take the OH, reroll the vault and hope (i only did 1 +10 last week and my current ilvl is 255) and then craft a 2h staff, or what?

bright swift
#

If you have nothing special in your vault you take a bonus roll

flint jetty
#

i also still need to get the 6 merit tokens for the reroll, still doing the questline to get the bonus rerolls unlocked, kinda f'd up and did a bunch of mythic pluses without progressing the quest last week cause i didnt know the bonus roll was back in game

#

so i figure i sit on vault and reroll it

#

like u mentioned, the OH doesnt seem like a good idea

proper horizon
flint jetty
#

but it got me wondering how upgrading btween a 2h and a mh/oh works

proper horizon
#

omission-bifurcation is the best haste-mastery combo of rings we have this season from m+

jovial sand
#

Does anyone know if there is an addon that can make a sound if your dispell didn't go off? I know I had a weakaura before that made a hickup sound.

proven phoenix
#

proggers

sacred wasp
#

not druid related but does anyone know if you can report someone to blizzard for harassment for something they said in disc? got invited to a disc and these guys tried to make me pay for it then started throwing slurs at me

drowsy hill
#

Is there somewhere that lists everything you can shadowmeld in m+?

#

Trying to up my game

proven phoenix
#

you can report them to discord but I doubt anything will happen

lament river
#

Q/E live says its 0,3 upgrade

drowsy hill
sacred wasp
flint jetty
#

does upgrading a 1h or offhand cause the crest needed for upgrading a 2h to be cur in half?

bright swift
#

No

drowsy hill
#

Also submit a help ticket maybe? Idk

sacred wasp
flint jetty
#

was this some m+ u joined that they gave a discord out to?

plain marsh
#

What the fuck did I just watch lmao

rustic copper
#

I depleted a 10 today

sacred wasp
#

was a 19

flint jetty
#

cause from the streamable, it seems like someone joining a discord and the guy gives 3 sales options, then they decide not to buy so they wanna leave, and the 'salesman' decides to kinda go dumbo mode

rustic copper
#

I love wow players

fleet jewel
rustic copper
#

I got a cloak from a bonus roll

fleet jewel
#

chat is this real

#

heroic eye beats every other myth track ring Deadge

rustic copper
#

Yes

fleet jewel
#

Deadge bruh

rustic copper
#

I bonus rolled heroic Lura

gentle nova
#

Doesnt it have 2 sockets?

rustic copper
#

Yes

fleet jewel
rustic copper
#

No

#

It’s 2

gentle nova
#

Then the heroic ring is better than myth rings

#

Xd

fleet jewel
#

Deadge bruh

sacred wasp
#

my clip missed him calling me the hard R too

#

unlucky

rustic copper
#

Why are you posting about that here

gentle nova
#

1 socket is worth like 15 ilvls on jewel

fleet jewel
#

aPES_SuspiciousRead is it still worth crafting a ring...

flint jetty
fleet jewel
#

its from my qelive upgrade finder

flint jetty
#

oh nice

#

was wondering that current day simcraft stuff was, havent played since 1 month worth of dragonflight and before that legion >.>

#

guess i gotta go grab simc again

thorn plover
#

guys are monks dust on paladins, asking for a friend

gentle nova
#

No

thorn plover
#

didnt think so

gentle nova
#

They are good at abosrbs

thorn plover
#

we are insane on absorbs

gentle nova
#

On the rest its whatever

thorn plover
#

yeah

rustic copper
#

Imagine not refreshing your hots

thorn plover
#

if youre going to sotf regrowth you should spell queue a rejuv in there so its empowered atleast 😏

#

which one keeps the group alive

#

idk youre top key pusher

sacred wasp
#

u can sotf rejuv earlier than the 10 second ramp to blanket the group better

#

esp if you play ND over HB

#

are you playing VI?

#

you don't need HB the falloff is pretty steep with how many hots you have rolling if you maintain lb on the tank

limpid jacinth
#

Second one is what I do. SM healing being “useless” is lame but getting into my Regrowth chain casting ASAP feels best to me (note: I’m playing NB in AAs)

sacred wasp
#

i've moved away from prosp actually because in fights where you need to hit SM on cd it loses value to VI and it saves you a lot of gcds

#

with VI you can very easily maintain full hot coverage on mana bombs

heavy sinew
#

fellow druids, i got emerald coach's whistle in my vault. Im currently rocking emberwing feather and heart of wind both heroic level. I'm raiding mythic and have access to gaze easy and should have access to ribbon soon (for bonus rolls at least seeing as gaze is everyones bis). I am wondering if i should take whistle or do i take the bonus roll

sacred wasp
#

not trying to influence you one way or another but just putting it out there as an option

thorn plover
limpid jacinth
rustic copper
#

I’m not about to play m+ but surely spell queueing swiftmend after a regrowth is good there

heavy sinew
#

yea i was thinking coin was the go, the rest of the loot is dogshit

gentle nova
#

do i just not waste my mana on intermission

rustic copper
gentle nova
#

i feel like i dump 20% mana there lmao

#

i have 4.2cpm on that

rustic copper
#

Ok

#

Sfop

#

Stop

gentle nova
#

yeah

rustic copper
#

I spent all day working and then farming gear only for me to be too tired for raid

#

Ggs

rustic copper
tough portal
urban bone
#

I wear crusaders trinkets so I simp if they simp too

#

Mutually assured simptruction

tough portal
#

True love doesn't require payment

gentle nova
#

my mana is cooked

thorn plover
#

let your other healers do something

#

theyre slacking

gentle nova
#

@tough portal such beautiful frames

fleet jewel
#

EWWW unordered hots

gentle nova
#

They are ordered

#

Rejuv >lb > rg > wg

tough portal
#

It is clean

glass crane
#

what if one of your warlocks calls for ironbark

gentle nova
#

One of them randomly gets it

granite sparrow
#

😂

thorn plover
#

this area is sending me a bit

fleet jewel
flint jetty
#

is QE live built specifically for healers?

thorn plover
#

yes

flint jetty
#

what do dpsers and tanks use these days?

thorn plover
#

raidbots

covert bramble
#

Replaced crafted with myth weapon from bonus rolls. Do I now craft 2 x arcano embellishments? Do they stack?

gentle nova
#

Tbf

thorn plover
#

yeah i wouldnt either if it looked like that

granite sparrow
#

how do you guys have those private aura debuffs on frames like the dispells on imperator? i cant find a good position size, either it overlaps with everything in the frame or i can even see which debuff it is

bright swift
#

Wanna see the saddest vault you've ever seen

shrewd jay
#

mythic track staff over crafted staff ?

thorn plover
shrewd jay
#

/cry

gentle nova
#

Those pants are good for no 4p wearers

bright swift
#

i picked socket

thorn plover
#

do you guys like my flex position tech for paladins

tough portal
#

For me

shrewd jay
tough portal
#

Idk what you're asking

thorn plover
#

heres how mine looks

bright swift
#

looks like shit

thorn plover
#

thanks

bright swift
#

this is mine

granite sparrow
#

you only have 1 type showing? i normallt cant say which is the dispellable if i dont put my face inside the screen on mine

marsh prism
#

ROFL

thorn plover
#

nice and obvious

shrewd jay
fair lava
#

Guys whats swiftmend prio in raid… am I sending it to extend LB or prioing it for the flat heal and extendo, whats like the perfect swiftmend useage

shrewd jay
thorn plover
#

why wouldnt you be able to

fair lava
#

ever time?

thorn plover
#

always lb extend

#

with 3 other hots

fair lava
#

even if Swiftmend will overheal?

thorn plover
#

yes swiftmend isnt for healing

granite sparrow
# bright swift this is mine

the blue diapell border works for your frames in imperator? i dont think it does for those debuffs on mine 🤔

fair lava
#

okay on mythic cosmos do you swap LB target for heal absorb or keep it on yourself still

bright swift
thorn plover
#

danders as well

granite sparrow
#

automatic for danders or do i have to change something?

thorn plover
#

go to dispel overlay, set to hybrid

granite sparrow
#

thank you!

thorn plover
gentle nova
#

I made dispel show as white color with that blue border

#

Honestly impossible to miss

marsh prism
marsh prism
#

ty

boreal karma
#

In the General indicator tab next to layouts

#

It’s private Aura dispels

tough portal
#

Yeah they autoadded it to profiles by default

marsh prism
#

not good!

#

and i couldnt figure it out during raid time cuz im still unfamiliar with grid

arctic dock
#

How's this trinket? anyone know uptime etc

#

better than heart surely?
But vs Locus ? Would only be able to get HC locus whole season also probably

Only playing m+

proven phoenix
#

its become worse with how we play

#

I think its worse than a heroic ribbon but you should double check

#

suffuser loses a lot of value because so much of our healing is just on one target thats perma sitting at 100% hp

autumn flume
#

Quick question, if I main resto, do I ever open the vault as another spec to try to hit trinkets from another spec pool, like balance? or just open as resto

proven phoenix
#

balance yes

#

healer trinkets are all awful

autumn flume
#

Thank you sir.

sly pivot
#

Anyone who knows how to use QE can assist with this choice - https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/cjomqcvjopiu

Basically rolled 289 wrists from magisters - despite the healing loss is it ever worth using the 289 over my craft?

tired gale
#

is this bugfix for our class some heal decrease?

gentle nova
#

no it removes the troll build from the game

unique sedge
#

For the meme kotg build which is meta in +25 keys

tired gale
#

oh

#

ok kekW

#

it sounded like major thing

unique sedge
#

Its a bugfix on a kotg talent, wildstalker is safe

spark river
#

Wait did they kill the doc build

unique sedge
#

U still do dmg in call of the elder druid window

tired gale
#

and hpal still got nothing KEKL

#

blizz just hates hpal

gentle nova
#

one step closertho

spark river
#

My druid has to be the most unlucky vault character ever

#

Again nothing

#

God bless bonus rolls i guess

unique sedge
gentle nova
#

i got this shit

#

but tbh idc what i get

#

any item by now has to be like .1% upg

boreal karma
#

ez haste mastery staff

gentle nova
#

do i craft neck

fleet jewel
#

catErm @gentle nova

#

this group might be cooked btw chatting

gentle nova
#

how come

#

also why is it 15 man wtf

#

my loot

fleet jewel
#

GlorpDank I think most of these people are just learning the fight 1st time

#

Deadge (ive been here for 2 pulls)

gentle nova
#

zz

candid peak
#

guys, if i got main hand and offhand, do i need to use crest for both? or will the second item be upgraded for free

spark river
#

@thorn plover You got nothing on these m+ stats

lyric night
#

Resto alt here. With the changes to everbloom, is it ever worth it to cast wild growth on anyone other than yourself, or is it safe to just macro to myself in all situations now for the extra HoT?

thorn plover
#

Wild growth doesn't necessarily hit who you target

#

So it doesn't matter

tough portal
#

You should not self-cast it everytime

wind agate
#

i would argue that self cast is best cast for wg

lyric night
#

Only situation I could think of is maybe right after a convoke if I already have a full duration WG on myself.

tough portal
#

You arent always the best positioned target to cleave WG onto the most people

thorn plover
tough portal
shut barn
#

I set wg to myself cos im lazy and prevents target casting issues

thorn plover
#

Self WG doesn't mean you get WG

lyric night
#

Got it, thanks.

flint jetty
#

is there an npc i get my m+ keystone from after reset?

tough portal
#

Try the panda in the portal room

#

The room to port to dungeons

reef zenith
#

this is ok right?

thorn plover
#

The guy standing beside the portal will give you one too

tough frigate
#

Got heart of wind in my vault, otherwise have myth emberwing and heroic emerald coach whistle

Emberwing on resto feels weird to me though

tough portal
gentle nova
#

wait

#

i should coin WS for how

#

suffuser sucks

tight flicker
#

Should we be using our sparks to craft non-embellished mythic pieces to fill in slots now?

gentle nova
#

or do i coin chimaerus

shut barn
#

Chim surely

tough portal
#

Use your myth crests on myth gear from bonus roll tokens

#

Just do 2 embellished crafts

tough frigate
#

I'm at 200 myth crests, so many m+ to farm to cap

gentle nova
#

these guys are high

flint jetty
#

its not possible to get a mythic track item from the vault for heroic raid completions?

shut barn
#

No

tough frigate
#

Nah

fleet jewel
tight flicker
gentle nova
#

no

spark river
gentle nova
#

u just lose sparks

gentle nova
#

mid memory game

#

yes i circle like triangle cheese diamond

tough frigate
#

How many potential items are there in NPX for resto? Wanna figure out my % chance for sadness with my 2 bonus rolls later, need omission chest and staff, but i seem to remember there being quite a lot of options

tight flicker
#

Sorry I've only just started back from SL. Would those same sparks be used to craft higher ilvl gear in the next phase of Midnight?

fleet jewel
tight flicker
tough portal
#

You can get a discount of 20 myth crests by upgrading a hero item to 6/6, this means you only use 60 myth crests to reach 285 (5/6)
If you craft, you use 80 to reach 285 and still need to pay 20 later on a myth item

gentle nova
#

sleeper

spark river
#

why is wildstalker bleached

tough portal
#

I hate mattiu man

fleet jewel
gentle nova
#

no its moderndruids build

tough frigate
#

What iLvl do you need to get to for hero upgrades to be discounted

#

276?

tight flicker
clever remnant
gentle nova
#

idk why am i here

#

instead of sleepeing

unique sedge
reef zenith
# tough portal I will end you

Other way of looking at it, no other vault I get this season will be this good. I have peaked and can only be disappointed from here XD

fleet jewel
gentle nova
#

cant get past memory game

#

💩

fleet jewel
#

tuff the rl downloaded the addon for it... but then never used it

gentle nova
#

xd

sly pivot
#

Anyone who knows how to use QE can assist with this choice? - https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/cjomqcvjopiu

Basically rolled 289 wrists from magisters - despite the healing loss is it ever worth using the 289 over my craft?

gentle nova
#

that boss is too hard for an heroic boss

snow umbra
#

Oh shit, did the voice chat go down yesterday?

gentle nova
#

cant even 7 heal it liek gallywix

snow umbra
#

How many hours was it up to? Like 5k?

gentle nova
sly pivot
gentle nova
#

if you swap the embelishment

#

probably

#

just because the socket tho

#

cuz if it was no socket its probably worse than the haste mastery one

snow umbra
#

What an appalling Vault

storm kettle
nova eagle
#

hey all, is there a way with the new blizz cooldown manager to track the cooldown on call of the elder druid? or do i just have to look across to my debuffs?

real carbon
#

"Fixed an issue where Blooming Infusion was counting each target of Nature’s Bounty or Rampant Growth as an additional cast." Can someone break down for me what this means for Resto Druid healing?

spark river
#

got spire with leach from skyreach

#

the gods have looked upon me

sage agate
#

Any suggestions for a m+ streamer that i can watch and learn?

gentle nova
#

jdotb

sly pivot
#

there's a lot of rdruid streamers jdotb is great, honestly just type in some variation of rdruid on twitch and you'll find heaps live in my experience

real carbon
spark river
#

Probably might wait a bit so he plays proper stuff

#

Vickman, roiben also

#

Lairas plays high keys on druid but I have no clue if she mains it

knotty goblet
#

She mixes it up depending on key, really good stream imo

limpid jacinth
#

@grave notch For your Seat, third boss, did you use defensives (especially Ironbark) on the beam channel (eg. first set of orbs) or on tentacles? Trying to step-up and shotcall this before the key.

white igloo
#

any info on what dungeon to bonus roll? guess its very dependant on what you have or not but..

limpid jacinth
white igloo
knotty goblet
#

WS has trinket, legs, shoulders. but depends what you allready have.

spark river
#

skyreach has gifted me a staff

#

so big up the birds

soft dagger
formal path
#

Is it worth to swap Lifebloom to the Dusk Crystals on Lura?

knotty goblet
sage agate
#

noted thanks

spark river
sage agate
#

whaat is this addon called? i saw it on jdotb

urban bone
#

That’s included in danders frames or also available from an addon called targetedspells or mythic dungeons casts

#

All do the same thing basically if you don’t use danders

#

Ok I got hero heart of wind or hero drums trinket… sim basically identically… which is cooler

#

Which will make me seem like a cool guy more

wise galleon
#

What is the advantage of looting vault with balance instead of resto? We just remove bad trinkets from the pool?

#

mhm I still want to get litany I guess

bright swift
#

why would you want to get litany

spark river
#

why

#

lol

#

unless you re a doc truther

wise galleon
#

okay yeah I havnet even done vanguard mythic im dumb

#

I already fucked my re-roll last week with NPX trinket on resto spec

spark river
#

You can only wear 1 thalassian diamond is a thing apparently

#

So its not possible wearing omission of light and bond of light

sage agate
spark river
#

Which is kinda interesting

wheat cape
#

Is QE not programmed to consider using catalyst charges on these gloves in my vault?

fierce pawn
wheat cape