resto

[sharp ibex]

im curious, why are druids making silvermoon boots instead of the world tree boots that give equip effect ontop of everything else

[main timber]

World tree boots cost you one of your two "embellishment" slots. We are using those on stronger embellishments

[spark river]

Arcanoweave is better?

[sharp ibex]

okay i got no embelleish hm

[dense lantern]

never

[main timber]

You would rather craft non-effect boots and add Arcanoweave Lining to them

[sharp ibex]

okay cool thank you voulk, and nice website!

[wary meteor]

I have a genuine question and not because of Dorki’s video- are non-cat form builds viable now since the buffs? Or are they still just not so good?

[main timber]

They are viable and all guides run caster-talents if you want to check em for updated builds

[wary meteor]

Oh, that’s really nice!! Thank you!

[thorn plover]

On this Sunday, I pray for cat form buffs

[bright swift]

yeah gl with that man

[knotty goblet]

Give us Primal Wrath 😄

[thorn plover]

Just buff swipe

It's simple

[waxen ingot]

you want to

spam swipe in AOE

:P?

Give double claw rake

make rip hit 3 targets or something

balnce dmg +- to not be broken or too weak

boom fun and engaging cat gameplay with skill expresion

[knotty goblet]

Maim is an odd talent, considering there's a choice node for bash.

[waxen ingot]

pvp

[knotty goblet]

The less remembered part of this game 😛

[waxen ingot]

Still a part of the game

[knotty goblet]

You are very much right yes.

[boreal monolith]

Thank you very much. I wasnt aware thats how it worked. Very helpful and makes sense on why its not worth. Was looking for a little more for Ember boss in Windrunner.

[thorn whale]

Yes please

[waxen ingot]

i guess i would like

that more than starfire

but still meh

give me feral druid rotation and gameplay

:P

tww feral druid pls

[thorn whale]

Yes but no

[waxen ingot]

blood talons resto druid

let me desing the game ngl

i will fix it

[ruby dock]

Hi guys, i'm going to gear my resto alt on reset with 6 rerolls, is there 1 dungeon that is OP for just having 6 good items? Or would anyone have recommendations on how to spend them? The druid is 240ilvl so everything is an upgrade

[waxen ingot]

nexus point has alot of good itmes

no OP dungeons tho

[ruby dock]

ah yea nexus has like 3 bis pieces if im seeing correctly

and then i guess the rest of it is still good gear that can be catalysed as well

[cursive pilot]

pre much

[gaunt willow]

How competitive is this starfire spam compared to other heal dps - is it still lower than monk for example?

[cursive pilot]

if u want just gear to cata, seat got the whole set

[ruby dock]

the idea is that i spend 6 bonus rolls and then i have 4 285 crafts after

i guess slamming 4 set is probably bis over nexus individual items

[main timber]

I'd go Nexus

[cursive pilot]

u get wep from nexus u skip wep craft

[main timber]

You can just turn hero pieces into tier now

[candid parcel]

Wildstalker raid, we put LB on ourself and swiftmend ourselves?

[ruby dock]

cool nexus it is, thanks!

[cursive pilot]

someone answered u earlier

[thorn plover]

Anything is better than what we're doing rn

[balmy spire]

How can you have 6 rerolls with reset??

[grave notch]

Im not at my pc rn so I cant check

[spark river]

3 rolls and got 3 back

[grave notch]

Can someone check at how many abundance stacks does a Regrowth cost less than rejuv?

[ruby dock]

2 weekly + 1 from not choosing vault item

or do you not get 2 weekly?

[spark river]

You get 2 and you can take one from vault if its bad

[ruby dock]

so ye 6

3 this week and 3 on reset

[spark river]

I think it was 4

[grave notch]

alright ty

[cursive pilot]

yea 4

[livid hearth]

new to resto, how do u utilize typhoon so it doesnt spread out mobs? Try to ursocs vortex into typhoon as often as possible?

[bright swift]

stand further away

[vague cedar]

I just use it situationally like the first boss of seat

[livid hearth]

ok ty

[vague cedar]

do you guys shift into bear form often for Ursine Vigor?

[bright swift]

I don't run ursine vigor because bear form is already broken enough :>

[grave notch]

I do alot tbh but its only something you really get value of in much higher keys

[vague cedar]

Do you think its worth moving that point to Improved Stampeding Roar or something?

I feel like Im never in bear form

[oak garnet]

You don't need to pre bear mechanics until higher keys

You can just press skin it's low enough cd as is

[vague cedar]

im 2982 rn pushing 13s for reference

[cursive pilot]

u can get by with skin

[thorn plover]

4

[wild gust]

Why are healer logs so much less than the meter on paladins?

Logs show me doing like 50k less

[grand herald]

cause meters are piecies of shit that blizzard made

and dont do anything right

[wild gust]

I find that difference hard to believe

[grand herald]

(heal absorbs count for double)

[wild gust]

The other fights are mostly fine

[grand herald]

(lol)

[wild gust]

Okay that makes more sense

[grizzled seal]

it's the same for chimaerus, beloren and lura

anywhere with healing absorbs

[whole horizon]

fights with no absorbs are still like 5-15% off compared to logs. depends on class too.

the new meters are objectively shit compared to what we used to have

[fickle garden]

[spark river]

Is the paladin discord boring again

[uncut mica]

I hear unholy dk is spicy atm

[fickle garden]

[uncut mica]

*discord

[fickle garden]

hpal discord not boring but i played druid in raid last night

and i got a taste of the sauce

the taste of victory and glory

power

growing

[spark river]

Now all you need to do is spam starfires in keys

[karmic stream]

hey, has anyone heard of a bug where you can lifebloom multiple targets?

[west topaz]

god if only

lifebloom the entire raid, imagine

[half timber]

is 10m damage overall in a dungeon (+10 WS) okay with catweaving? If theres somewhat of an meter lol

[waxen ingot]

how much dps is that

[half timber]

Spirit Link totem but for Druid, giganto max LB lol

[west topaz]

efflo on so many people the entire floor becomes a green rave

[half timber]

idk I believe like 10k?

[waxen ingot]

You could do 20+ easy

but

dont focus on that

[cursive pilot]

and then u see the shit bloom

[waxen ingot]

it comes with time

[cursive pilot]

holy

[half timber]

nonono, i need gear first 😄

[fervent mica]

crutch

[half timber]

got myth Final Grade tho, thats literally my BiS currently

got unlucky with nexus rolls, got the wrong ring on mythic bruh

[ruby wave]

are we now disci priests in m+?

[cursive pilot]

upside u wont get it again lol

[cursive pilot]

try it out

[livid hearth]

lets say i wanna use convoke offensively, which one is more priority? Convoke in tiger form or hotw in tiger form?

[half timber]

Ohh true forgot about that. But it only counts for Bonus rolls, or does it count generally for chest loot too?

[half timber]

hotw n kitty cat form

[ruby wave]

i did try it out... 15 pit, that does not feel right

[half timber]

God damn

[cursive pilot]

bonus

but u said u got it on myth so thru bonus rool right

[half timber]

yea

[cursive pilot]

then ur never seein that ring in myth again

unless bug again lmao

u can still get that ring as heroic

[half timber]

hell no, then Id be pissed lol

[cursive pilot]

starfire is bugged so makes sense

[oak garnet]

Pit is a good run for doc not a lot of damage going out

[ruby wave]

also worked well in skyreach and seat

[plain steeple]

Ofc it works if it’s bugged to double damage. 🤷‍♂️

[ruby wave]

y did not know that

[plain marsh]

U caved

[glass crane]

I hope when blizz nerf starfire they buff doc to make it still playable

it's been nice having that talent not be a dogshit eyesore taking up two spots in the bottom of the tree for the first time in 3 years

[marsh plover]

Nah I think if you wanna damage to heal blizzard should stick to disc (buff atonement) and mistweaver for that not every class has to be that

[neat lintel]

What does doc do in resto?

[glass crane]

I think if you want to do aoe healing that should be a rdruid thing only, no reason every healer needs to have aoe healing

[neat lintel]

I only know bear doc

[uncut hedge]

Guys I do 16s and 17s freestyle and I was wondering what the green wave is Thant explodes sometimes (and it heals the group massive ) what’s that?

Is this sons?

[marsh plover]

What?

[oak garnet]

It's our apex

Reworked visual

[uncut hedge]

Ahh it comes from boom

[oak garnet]

Also procs off photosynthesis

[uncut hedge]

Bloom

?

[oak garnet]

Yep

[uncut hedge]

😎 cool

When does it trigger ?

Or what

[oak garnet]

When photo procs or you consume sotf

[glass crane]

if we're just arbritrarily deciding which healers should do certain things

I think only hpal should get single target heals

[cursive pilot]

ur right delete priest,evo,mw,rsham

[uncut hedge]

I got 16 resi and most of the time ppl won’t even take me anymore

All want ts rsham or many

Cause ppl are scared of druids that can’t play resto

[grand herald]

?

[marsh plover]

But like if you want to damage to heal, that’s the class identity for monks and disc priests that hasn’t been the identity for Druid lol druids are about hots and plants

Why does blizz need to shoehorn that in

[wary belfry]

Monks? Disc had it first.

[grand tinsel]

yo! whats the no1 non catweaving spec for m+ rn?

[arctic swan]

Hey guys, i trying to improve compare logs etc (for keys) I watching top rdruid profils is the "Point & Healing (by level) are important ? (like if someone check my logs for inv me in key) cuz i saw many top druids around like 50 Best HPS Avg or Median HPS Avg (im a noob i probly don't understand how it work)

[marsh plover]

Hence why I listed both lol but they keep stripping disc of that identity and they should stop doing that

[cursive pilot]

ur comparing urself to top players when ur a beginner, try learning the class first

[arctic swan]

Well im resi 19 so ye i trying to see what ppl do in 20/21 is it wrong ?

[main timber]

You can do that, but those points or whatever are useless

Just check the logs themselves

[glass crane]

hpal wasn't able to aoe heal for the first 6 years of wow

[arctic swan]

Ok that what i wanted to know ! Tyvm

[glass crane]

imagine we kept that identity

[main timber]

Yeah and then in Cata they gave them the best AoE heal of all

[proven phoenix]

I miss when hpal healing was individually pressing holy light on every target

flash of light cost too much mana of course

[main timber]

I don't really mind if DoC stays good, though I think there are more interesting DPS -> Heal ideas than how it currently works

It also isn't a new idea, it came in not long after Atonement did. It was just bad for a decade and sometimes removed

[wet stone]

Am i suppose to SM to also extend Lifebloom with all hots ? or should we be letting Lb get to pandemic to refresh so it splashes to others?

[uncut hedge]

I would say looking in logs for m+
Isn’t really the key cause it differs so often in so many ways

[proven phoenix]

just extend it whenever you can

[wet stone]

thanks was wondering since when its blooms it spreads to more targets . didnt know if extending it all the time would cut that down

[uncut hedge]

Is there a cheat sheet for every dungeon that tells me which spec is useful for these adds or types

[proven phoenix]

you get a ton of blooms no matter what with blooming frenzy and photo

[proven phoenix]

not really

its just experience/word of mouth when it comes to m+ tech like that

[uncut hedge]

Kk thought of it

Is there anything against runic glaives ?

[proven phoenix]

you can meld if you're the first target and they wont go off

otherwise you just personal and heal

that entire hallway is dangerous

just a healers heal kinda hallway

[shrewd jay]

Can I do all M+ with the call of the elder build ?

[proven phoenix]

nothings stopping you

[fickle garden]

not yet i play my rdruid on saturday team, we cleared first 4 myth and druid felt really fun

[shrewd jay]

I'm a bit scared for bosses

[fickle garden]

but im def tempted to see if my raid would run double resto druid for last 4 mythic

hpal is doomed

[uncut hedge]

It’s pretty doable

[proven phoenix]

hpal is good on lura and alleria

[uncut hedge]

The killer is runic glaive + dispel

[proven phoenix]

its fine on beloren nothing insane

[proven phoenix]

you'll be fine

[shrewd jay]

I'll try

[proven phoenix]

the spec has more than enough healing for everything even if you take doc or w/e

[molten crater]

I'm sure the new youtube vid where we go Dream of Cenarius has been talked about quite a bit - is that officially better than cat weaving? Or preference?

[shrewd jay]

To remove Nature's bounty is quite scary ngl

[main timber]

Those ideas aren't competing. You either play DoC build, or you play a regular Wildstalker build that also takes Caster talents

No build goes full catweaving since the patch

[molten crater]

Oh, so catweaving is kind of dead outside HotW? Or do we just always go caster?

Sorry, not quite sure I get your message

[main timber]

Yeah the patch giga buffed all caster spells

[molten crater]

Alright

[main timber]

So you only really use cat for hotw like you mentioned

[molten crater]

Awesome, thanks mate 🙂

[abstract tulip]

how do i figure out which addon is causing a tooltip error when bliz ui is controling the tooltips?

[sinful summit]

last time they gigabuffed caster dps back in dragonflight they gigabuffed cat spells next week. here's hoping

[proven phoenix]

do you have bugsack

[oak garnet]

Just dl bug grabber or bug sack and mute the voice for the alerts

[abstract tulip]

i have buggrabber

but i dont want to have the error in the first place i want it to go away

[proven phoenix]

well what does it say

[abstract tulip]

ill figure that out.. i am unsure. i disabled out of date addons for now hoping that fixes it

[shut barn]

does convoke trigger ms talent?

[bright swift]

yes

[storm kettle]

pug rdruid on weekly 12
wth am i looking at

[arctic swan]

Got it ty sir

[oak garnet]

A dated raid build

With wrong talents ontop of that

[storm kettle]

😄

Was embrace the dream ever played until midnight?

This build is so odd

[oak garnet]

It's a 12 so you'll be fine

[storm kettle]

Ye ofc just weird

[sinful summit]

looks like the default starter build

[oak garnet]

Looking at it even more its level 2 talents are totally cooked

[storm kettle]

Maybe it's really the default

[proven phoenix]

looking at talents in pugs is never going to be fun

[oak garnet]

Ignorance is bliss

[proven phoenix]

most people just take whatever bullshit

[thorn whale]

bird dead

time for windchime

[oak garnet]

Gaming!

Hopefully all those bugs are fixed

[sinful summit]

its not the default build, but the default build used to look a bit like that at some point

[cursive pilot]

an addon that randomizes ur talents would be chaos

[thorn plover]

I can make it happen

Daily random talents with leaderboards for who pushed highest key with it

[tidal sigil]

How we feelin about Harmonius blooming in m+? see some people run it, but after changes it was switched to heartwood in some builds.

Kinda wanna go back to it

[thorn plover]

Lots of discussion here about it if you search

[plain sun]

Hi, Can someone explain why WoW analyzer advises putting Lifebloom in melee when I've heard you should keep her on yourself and cast swiftmend on yourself too ?

[thorn plover]

The 2 extra mastery stacks are so heavily DR that it's really not that good

Just dated info

Should be on yourself and you should be stacked with people

[plain sun]

ok and i put swiftmend on myself too ?

[thorn plover]

If you're playing VI yes

[plain sun]

sorry "VI" ? I am not english x)

[blissful barn]

hey any one knows if exist some like a WA for track when is avalible call of the elder druid?

[thorn plover]

Verdant infusion talent, top left of your resto tree

[plain sun]

aaah ok for refresh the lifebloom

[thorn plover]

You can track the cooldown of it with a custom bar in ArcUI. Not aware of other ways.
You do get a debuff the entire time it's not available that you can look at

[blissful barn]

is possible track that debuff whit dander frames or native ui?

[slender gust]

Can someone pls explain to me how tf I'm supposed to be able to use Litany? I feel like I always have HoTs to refresh, and I need to find a place to cast FIVE DPS globals during a time when ppl will need the shield afterwards?

That trinket is making me feel stupid

[gentle nova]

So dont use it

Its a monk trinket

[thorn plover]

It's just on your debuffs?

[thorn plover]

Junk trinket

[blissful barn]

yep

[slender gust]

My 2nd raid's druid is really hurting in the trinket department and it's what I've got lol

[thorn plover]

What's your other trinket

[gentle nova]

Get a stat stick somwhere
Its not hard

[thorn plover]

^

[gentle nova]

3 shuffles
And you get one decent one

[slender gust]

Vaelgor's at LFR ilvl, and I'm like 20 WS deep with no feather or Heart

[thorn plover]

PvP trinket good, drums from delves, how, whistle

All better

[jovial tartan]

i used to use it in cat form macro'd every time i used heart of the wild

[slender gust]

In a vacuum, what are my best crafts between bracers, cloak, and belt if I expect my guild will kill Chim and at least 3 bosses of VS maybe dragons, but that's not a guarantee? (I'm using my bonus rolls in NPX, so I expect to get Myth chest from there soon enough)

[thorn plover]

Probably cloak if you aren't sure or are a ways from dragons

[bright swift]

You don't have to craft

if you have your 2 embellishments you should just not craft

[frank furnace]

I'm stuck with that trinket atm and I just spam as many moonfires on the target as I have time

[slender gust]

I need embellishments on this toon still. I have 0 crafted gear atm

[bright swift]

wrists/cloak then for the long run

[slender gust]

Are there not enough good wrists in the pool besides the ones in AA? I was looking at belts, b/c most of the loot pool for belts looks p bad

[shrewd jay]

Do you have a tips to properly track call of the elder ?
Feel like CMD is not optimal for it.

[thorn plover]

Look at your debuffs

Or you can make a custom bar in ArcUI to track it

[shrewd jay]

I'll try this

[eternal bough]

VI vs properity ? i feel safe with prosperity more but all high keys are playing VI why ?

[thorn plover]

Save gcds

Use search from mattiu last night, lots of good discussion about it

[bright swift]

sure that works too

either is fine

[glossy rose]

hey pals doing some healer cd planning, does anyone know how long luura is if you go to last crystal / 2nd to last

[slender gust]

Cool. I'll prob do wrists+cloak anyway and then just craft a belt later if I get unlucky, b/c wrists gives me more immediate ilvl

[jaunty drum]

Thanks for all the tips, guys. Got some good logs and 4 mythic bosses ❤️

[rustic copper]

Guardian lootspec

[thorn plover]

Rejuv disappearing at 2 sec remaining is the ND bug right

Or am I misremembering

[inner lava]

is dispellable stuff in dungeons etc still bugged? i still can't see them

[half timber]

I love that atleast some of the ppl who tried the build got quickly hit with a reality check. Funny how Dorki says he pugged keys, but heals Yoda lmao
(Yea yea I know we've been through this..)

[thorn plover]

Almost like we've been saying this on repeat in here lol.

[half timber]

Im waaaay too late I know, just watched the video rn. Its still hilarious tho ^^

I stick to kitty cat and have more healing, than dealing 60k DPS

[true jungle]

I tried it in a few 12's last night, is fun when you dont have to heal

[versed hemlock]

It's fun for some lulz in 10s. The HPS Isn't terrible. In a coordinated group, it could even be viable.

[true jungle]

anytime anything goes wrong, its terrible though

[slender gust]

I am, don't worry lol. I've gotten 2 chests, 2 belts, Legs, I think 2 shoulders...

[plain steeple]

They fixed some spells. Some are still not visible. It’s a pity.

No idea why they only hotfixed part of it during the last days.

[half timber]

Pug life lol

[true jungle]

yepe lol

[inner lava]

yea algethar is still bugged but maisara was fine for example lol

so weird

[plain steeple]

In Nexus point they fixed the final boss debuffs. Those on the right side boss not.

And I think on the left side boss they also fixed it.

[past tusk]

Hey I did all dungeons on +11 but I am a bit anxious to make the step to +12, since I never healed a +12 in my life.. Is it a big step up in difficulty?

[spark river]

No

[strange raft]

How are you all tracking when call of the elder druid is available?

[spark river]

You wont feel it at all

[thorn plover]

Look at your debuffs

[fierce isle]

12s are more simple because you don’t have the xalatath affix to deal with

[shrewd jay]

Same questionanswe was check your debuff which is ok, but hum...
could be better

[fierce isle]

But you lose the buff it offers in exchange

[thorn plover]

You can track it with ArcUI

I don't know if any other ways

[strange raft]

that stinks...thanks though. I wanted to have it centrally located in the cd manger so i could plan around it being available

[vocal belfry]

ok i just tried the new kotg build people are talking about and its insanely fun

[shrewd jay]

I tried 15 x 2 with it

Failes verybadly

[final nebula]

I just asked in the wrong channel, but I can't get the Alert (sound or visual) to work on Lifebloom's Pandemic, 4.5 seconds iirc. It does work on "On Aura removed" but not on Pandemic. Do you guys have the same issue? Or have I configured it wrong? (The Alert works fine on the Rip Pandemic as Feral, so the Alert system works but not on LB Pandemic)

[thorn plover]

It doesn't work

Use LifebloomAlert or a weakaura

[vocal belfry]

fair enough. i was testing in a lower key and its super fun (a 12)

[strange raft]

yes, doesnt work in pandemic. its dumb

[final nebula]

Ah, thanks guys! That's what I thought. I'll try LifebloomAlert

[thorn plover]

The kotg build is free money for rdruid streamers, not good for much else lol

[strange raft]

Is there anyway to track the 1min cd for call of the elder?

doesn't appear in the cdm 🙁

[thorn plover]

Scroll up

[spare sand]

Tried some 17s yesterday with vi and ngl the vi propaganda is getting to me

[shrewd jay]

What is vi ?

[thorn plover]

"propaganda"

[final nebula]

Thanks for the tip on LifebloomAlert, that works great

[spare sand]

Verdant infusion

[shrewd jay]

Gosh the DruidR specs getting crazy by the hours

[thorn plover]

VI isn't new

Been the recommended all season basically lol

[shrewd jay]

Ah I'm palying with it already

[spare sand]

I thought i felt safe with prosperity but yeah vi is definitly a way to go high keys

[slender gust]

Why is NS CDR talent chosen in raid over the increased healing? I figured that would be better for the regrowth cleave

[tulip nexus]

i managed to brick +18 pit at the last boss after a super clean run with plenty of time

apparently i didnt hit a caster mob pile, but I swear on my screen there was one, it is impossible to miss and i've done the boss a trillion times

[thorn plover]

Because it doesn't work on convoke regrowths anymore

[surreal crater]

because blizzard hates us

[main timber]

"Because blizzard hates us" says spec dominating both raid and mythic+

[wary plaza]

why am i being kicked from my 18s for not running the dps build

[proven phoenix]

I still havent been able to eat a proper meal since they removed ns convoke interaction and prepull reforestation

I just dont have an appetite

[tulip nexus]

some people will never be happy

[pulsar kettle]

because their favorite streamer Dorki plays it

[tulip nexus]

that's hilarious lol

[wary plaza]

im losing my mind

2 keys in a row

[pulsar kettle]

let them sit waiting for an rdruid to brick the first boss because they try to heal a damage event with starfire

[thorn plover]

No shot

[tulip nexus]

its worth, he got big numbers on the first lust pull

[spare sand]

Healer dps in expansion other than shadowlands kek

[cosmic grove]

What's the haste stat goal as resto druid btw, if anyone knows?

[thorn plover]

All of it

[half timber]

Every single bit

[pulsar kettle]

there is no goal, use qelive to sim yourself

[cosmic grove]

Got it

Thanks

[thorn plover]

When you think you have enough, no you dont

[half timber]

True

Make numbers go up

be happy

[sharp silo]

whats the go to build rn? is it still normal cat or boomkin build

in mythic +

[thorn plover]

Wowhead

[sharp silo]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-vegetables-gif-15621481

[prisma garden]

trying out the boomkin kotg build for m+ since the sweeping arcane/astral buffs but struggling rn to better track the Call of the Elder Druid debuff have yall found any good ways to track when call of the elder druid is available at any given time

[thorn plover]

Scroll up

[cosmic grove]

For QELive should I be looking at upgradefinder or top gear?

[lapis blaze]

There is the debuff you get from it, I just move my regular debuff window closer of centre screen.

[prisma garden]

can you reply to the post relevant to accurately tracking it. i dont care about the various "its a meme for streamers" posts lol

[thorn plover]

You get a debuff the entire time it's not available, look at that.
Or you can track it with a custom bar in ArcUI

[thorn plover]

Both have different purposes

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/how-to-use-qe-live-tool-guide

[cosmic grove]

Thanks

[static wadi]

If soul of the forest doesn't buff wild growth anymore, why does it consume the buff

[spare sand]

What 2 charges

[static wadi]

sorry, not charges

[spare sand]

Well

As far as i know

It doesnt

[hardy canopy]

it doesn't

if you're queuing regrowth into sm then regrowth is consuming it

[tulip nexus]

you can find an answer to your question in 2 seconds with the search feature, and you're asking somebody else to find it for you?

[glacial wagon]

where is the best resource for boss to boss talent builds? the dreamgrove raid build is quite different than the boss to boss reccomended ones on wowhead

[thorn plover]

wowhead

@fickle garden whos a good hpal to log compare to

[mint granite]

What's the current best raid and M+ talents?

[thorn plover]

wowhead

[mint granite]

Wildstalker or Keeper better?

[native ermine]

You want to read through the wowhead guide

[thorn plover]

read wowhead

it talks about it

[mint granite]

Rgr that

[livid hearth]

How good are the new assault and ritual sites for gearing new alt? Like farming currency and buying champion gears? Until start spamming m+ maybe?

[tough portal]

Pointless

Just buy cosmetics with that

You farm champion gear in other sources faster

[whole horizon]

someone said you can fully deck out in hero gear with some new event thingie

[slender gust]

And having more NS over the course of a fight is better than having juicier ones for NB?

[tough portal]

0.5% vs 0.4% talent

Nobody cares

[whole horizon]

you could be the one

[slender gust]

Are ppl also playing the CDR in M+ now that it doesn't work w/ Voke? Or is the bigger burst more valuable in keys?

[plain rampart]

Guys, is there a way to create a macro that converts you back to human form then cast CtS?

[thorn plover]

/cancelform
/cast convoke

[plain rampart]

oh nice, thx

[tulip nexus]

the beefier ns is better for a clutch saving heal, gaining a bit of cd redu on it is basically useless since you arent using NS on cd anyway

imo

[plain steeple]

Even before the patch you could argue that CDR was better with convoke.
The cooldown started 5s after that of your convoke - therefore in the next convoke you often didn’t have NS ready and did cast convoke without it.

For now, both CDR and +35% are very close on paper.

Personally I go with CDR because it can save people a bit more often if needed.

[slender gust]

IDK I find myself using it a lot, so I think it's close, but NS+PotA being 3x Lay on Hands is really cracked in certain spots

[plain steeple]

In raid I go with +35% as I macro it together with barkskin.

[slender gust]

When I wasn't playing Convoke in raid, I actually found myself using it less often than in M+, b/c I tended to want to save it for instant full health BRez or turbo emergency heal

[thorn plover]

i forget it exists a lot, i gotta work on it

[slender gust]

NS Brez has been clutch in raid pretty often tbh

[formal fjord]

Good morning fellow druid, it i s 8:42 am here on Monday

[slender gust]

When I was trialing guilds back in DF, the first compliment I ever got on my play was how on top of BRez's I was and getting up key members w/o RL needing to clutter comms calling for it

I'm a mediocre raider otherwise, so I take my wins where I can get them, and that's the one compliment I have gotten more than once

[formal fjord]

rofl, i have light wheeeee

rofl i like this

[slender gust]

What other point are people dropping when they want RH in raid for like...L'ura crystals or if someone's having a hard time living? Obviously Imp swiftmend, but what else?

The only points that look reasonably droppable are Imp RG and the 1 pt TV and neither of those sound like they feel good to drop

[thorn plover]

you definitely arent dropping tv for it

[slender gust]

I wish there was another path into Abundance besides Intensity, b/c that point doesn't seem super value

[thorn plover]

you could drop life treading if you really need RH ig

🧌

i dont think you need it in raid badly enough to do that

[quick jasper]

What threshold is Regenesis from on low health targets? Below 30%?

[thorn plover]

it maxes at 0

[formal fjord]

So the WoWhead builds are up to date, and from what ive seen the best up to date in wowhead. Im getting 99 parse logs from the raid build so you cant really go wrong. Voulk - whose in this channel, wrote them. What do you need opinions for exactly? Do you not trust it? like what info are you after?

[slender gust]

I know @rustic copper was at least talking about it for L'ura, and he showed a graph of him doing pretty good crystal healing, but idk how he got it into his build.

[tough portal]

Grove Guardians is prob the best you can drop without losing out on pathing or other requirements

[white crystal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8hwpZc1dPRNCxgBQ?fight=30&type=healing&source=377 Anyone with some tips? i feel like i am lacking on everbloom am i just not swiftmending enough or are my casts just dogshit this boss i'm not extending my own LB often enough either i think

[whole horizon]

4 cpm on SM with VI and WS isnt low, is it?

thats lower than you could be but not by much

[thorn plover]

im usually 4.5

[whole horizon]

you dont get any of the CDR from KotG

and missing .5 cpm isnt going to nuke your hps

[tough portal]

Maintain 2x Rejuvs on yourself bro

[white crystal]

Yea that might be it

[tough portal]

And WG before you Swiftmend if you can to try and snag a WG on yourself to extend also

[rustic copper]

I am not talenting for crystals at all

you want to learn how to heal lura crystals?

[slender gust]

No, but given my cohealers' history with healer add bosses, and our general healer weakness, I am unfortunately going to need to

Especially if Alleria absorbs are any indicator

[white crystal]

Ty bro that might actually be it if i compare my Everbloom with others im like 5mil behind

[rustic copper]

lifebloom 1-2x rejuv regrowth swiftmend ns regrowth all on the same crystal

you don't want to regrowth the 2nd crystal yet because you want your ns regrowth to hit it

you can toss a wildgrowth in there or I was also sometimes convoking as soon as they came out and that usually puts a wg on them

[formal fjord]

can you not for some reason?

[rustic copper]

and after that setup you spam regrowth

[kind star]

derp I keep forgetting about symbiotic ><

[slender gust]

4 iirc

[slender gust]

TY for advice Niko. I feel like I'm gonna need it. Am I correct in saying that we're generally bad at healing crystals and that in an ideal world that should be Not My Job™?

[rustic copper]

no

we can do a large amount of healing to them pretty easily

ideally you assign crystals

like you do this rotation on boss 2 and then a monk hits boss 3 or something

and when you're done you help the other one

[slender gust]

Healer comp btw is Me, HPal HPriest and either MW or RSham

[mild granite]

whats your cpm on wg?

[rustic copper]

hpal mw both rly good at healing them

hpriest i assume is good but I haven't played with one this xpac

[thorn plover]

under 4

i dont run 4 piece tho

[formal fjord]

wowhead - https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/druid/restoration/wildstalker/EARAQREQEkUVVlVCBURhCBEQVVUVVAVFBEUFFUHQCBUFFVVVUCUQ

[formal fjord]

id be happy to check any log you posted

[mild granite]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/m2VjqKXByvTNdb3D/8hwpZc1dPRNCxgBQ?fight=12&type=casts&source=97%2C377

[grizzled seal]

I love intermissions on lura

[mild granite]

i was comparing with the dnss dude and i seem to spam way too much wg

[slender gust]

As a deliberate choice???

[thorn plover]

yes

[slender gust]

Explain

[thorn plover]

i dont press WG on CD, so why do i need CDR

[slender gust]

Mana cost reduction so nice though even if you're only casting WG when you SM

[thorn plover]

eh mana not an issue

rather have more haste

[slender gust]

If you don't need the mana from MS on any given boss, is Liveliness or Embrace a better point?

[thorn plover]

i take embrace

[obtuse nebula]

Feel I did really well on our alleria kill tonight
Wowanalyzer has nothing to note, all good
realise I never used symbiotic relationship

oops. Hopefully it wasn't worth too much healing lol

[thorn plover]

2.5 - 3% talent, i think livliness is around 2%? idk

[rustic copper]

still no spatial

I am just going to do no healing to half the raid on intermission

[grizzled seal]

owned

[slender gust]

Spatial is the give a healer Spiritwalker's talent, right?

[thorn whale]

Sm doesnt buff your WG anymore btw

[rustic copper]

yes but it is especially important for range on lura intermission

it's not really a problem on heroic

but on mythic that intermission is extremely hard to heal

[slender gust]

I know, but a lot of ppl on logs I've seen only cast WG with their swiftmend still anyway to conserve some mana

[rustic copper]

as you can see from torty's screenshot lol

[thorn plover]

niko whats your wg cpm

2?

[slender gust]

Either that or old habits die hard even from good players. IDK if it was like that before SL b/c that's when I started, but SM>WG with SotF was a thing at least since SL

[formal fjord]

I find it nicer actually, because you dont have to deal with affix and in pugs thats a big thing. Pugs dont often do the affix and dont seem to care that the mobs or boss gets buffed, meanwhile you are shitting yourself healing when just doing a 12 would solve it haha.

[slender gust]

12s get easier imo, b/c you get players with brain cells in your key

[thorn whale]

what 12s are you playing

[formal fjord]

its always blizzards fault doncha know.

[formal fjord]

because people think thats the only thing that matters

[formal fjord]

this tbh

[formal fjord]

that sucks so much, 2 minutes on a key for dps when staying alive is the point

[slender gust]

And JdotB. My friend just picked up RDru and was like "Imma follow the bald man"

[formal fjord]

There is a table, but we arent even close to cap this season, just give yourself as much haste as possible.

[slender gust]

And I'm like pls no that build is hard to play and probably cope

[cosmic grove]

Thanks

[vocal belfry]

12’s are vault tourist keys. Doesn’t get “better” until a little above that imo

[grizzled seal]

@rustic copper I think convoke before the intermissions is insane btw

[kind star]

On maisara first boss what do you even do with the traps 🤔 positioned myself behind it away from boss

[glossy onyx]

You aren't pushing real keys if your team isn't filled with character names you can't read

[fervent mica]

step in

[kind star]

Oh alright never would have tought lol

[waxen ingot]

Im not getting in a ke with those people

russias are the most insufferable members of this game

they will yap with broken english while playing dogshit

While having 300 keys played in first 5 weeks

[craggy lotus]

Hey guys is there a place I can request a log analysis? Im kinda new to resto druid and im having trouble with pugging 14/15+ keys. I've read the guides and feel like im better but still parsing mid 30s in healing in m+. Not sure where im going wrong

[formal fjord]

we would love to help

here is fine

just post your logs and we will check em

[waxen ingot]

M+ parse is not a metric

groups take different dmg

take different routes

play different comps

[grand tinsel]

Thanks 🙂 what’s most difficult, kotg or wildstalker?

[waxen ingot]

no differance in gameplay

Wildstalker does a little bit more healing

[craggy lotus]

Thank you! This is one of the ones I ran last night https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hAL4Y7w9F6GH1WvR?fight=1&type=healing

[waxen ingot]

you had 0 deaths due to healing whole dungeon

you did good

[grand tinsel]

Oh ait then I’ll try thanks! 🙂

[exotic breach]

Hey folks, is there a fundamental issue with the addon api preventing some debuffs from showing up either in the regular debuffs or boss debuffs aura indicators ? I reverted to default Danders settings with boss debuffs activated and there are still tons of m+ debuffs that I cant see... Like I target the player taking dmg and on the default target frame I see the debuff. I tried increasing the boss debuff strata level to max but it didnt change a thing.

Cell does that too

Default frames are cursed and I hate them :c

[craggy lotus]

I know a weakness of mine is not knowing the aoe damage spikes so I try to keep people topped off all the time. I just run into shit all the time because its hard to run and heal and I end up dying a lot staring at health bars. Its hard. This is another one I don't think I did that well on even though we timed it. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Fx1y4J6N8fMRn3wD?fight=2&type=healing

[rustic copper]

insanely good or bad

wdym

[grizzled seal]

very good

lets ramp so much better

[sacred wasp]

danders lost some targeting spell functionality so you need to supplement with Targetedspells addon from xeph

[rustic copper]

yeah I run to the other side and convoke as running to my side

[grizzled seal]

I have a spot near the middle

and I get spatial for tranq

extend all those hots

[teal jungle]

I mean hes taklking about debuffs not targetted spells

[sacred wasp]

woops

[exotic breach]

ye, like a regular non dispelable debuff dot applied

[waxen ingot]

its just immpoble to judge a persons performance in mythic + based on a log

you can get some key things

[teal jungle]

In raid some of the debuffs were private or sometimes buggy, in normal dungeons you should be able to see everything

[sacred wasp]

if you have it set to all debuffs you shouldnt miss naything in m+

[teal jungle]

I only know grid2 and there I can see everything. Are the buffs maybe filtered on dispellable buffs?

[exotic breach]

ill try grid2

[waxen ingot]

Not immposible, just incredebly annoying and dumb to do

vod is a way better way to do it

[craggy lotus]

How do I improve then in keys? Or get some help? I just don't know what im doing wrong

[waxen ingot]

Watch other people

watch your vod

[grizzled seal]

I mean you can find egregious mistakes in there

[waxen ingot]

I mean sure u can find mistakes that will get fixed by reading a guide or asking specific question

[teal jungle]

I see a swiftmend regrowth at the start for example after only 2 rejuvs

[lunar steppe]

What haste yall running in high keys?

[whole horizon]

the fun part about logs is you can see the replay which shows positioning

so its really no different from a VOD, just how you have to wrap your brain around the data

[muted thicket]

is there any method to see how many groups killed vanguards with 4 healers?

[waxen ingot]

if you go and do that for a m+ log

[whole horizon]

yeah WarcraftLogs has advanced filters

[waxen ingot]

you are a psycho

[whole horizon]

ok? and?

git gud

[teal jungle]

Yeah logs has it all, you just have to combine the all the information on positioning, hp, cooldowns, interupt, avoidable damage taken

in your mind and play it out

[waxen ingot]

ye

good thign to do

[teal jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/hangover-math-mathematics-equation-lol-gif-5822639

[waxen ingot]

after u take deadly ammount of drugs

u go do that

[whole horizon]

well youre looking for targeted feedback with a log. the only way to look at anything and print out a list of people's mistakes is to use WoWA.

otherwise youre just cherrypicking what you notice

log is no different from a VOD in that regard

[livid hearth]

can i not sim gem enchants and consumables like raidbots in qelive?

[thorn plover]

It tells you what gems and enchants and consumables to use yep

[spark river]

I got a 289 how

[livid hearth]

Oh didnt find it in top gear or droptimizer

[formal fjord]

ill check in a couple of hours, about to raid 🙂

[thorn plover]

It's in top gear, will just show them on your gear

[craggy lotus]

Sure thing! Thanks

[main timber]

Yeah there is no selector because they aren't meaningfully different

[livid hearth]

Ok ty

[tough frigate]

Man, I don't know why I didn't try delves as resto before, just been gearing my druid this weekend and DPS Valeera is insane, genuinely feels faster than my ~275 hunter with healer valeera

[slender gust]

@main timber I meant to DM you, but how does QELive sim for M+ vs Raid? Is M+ sim considering damage?

[thorn plover]

Tank valeera is even better. Pull the whole delve and watch her do 300k

[tough frigate]

interesting

[thorn plover]

Voulk loves dms since he doesn't get very many

[main timber]

Flick me a DM since the answer is long and I'm afk a bit

[spark river]

What did Voulk do to deserve this personal attack

[solid hemlock]

bonus rolls gave me a rubbish cloak and feather. meh (guess feather is decent)

[slender gust]

I was looking at one of Niko's raid logs and he had way more Regrowths than rejuvs. The hell is that about? Usually looking at good logs it's close to 1:1 or favoring rejuv

[rustic copper]

regrowth is good

[gentle nova]

Those arent good logs

[whole horizon]

wait niko unprivated logs?

[rustic copper]

no I think I joined a pug heroic or soemthing

def not optimal play

just pressing random buttons

but yk

[gentle nova]

Top alleria log has 10 regrowth over rejuv cpm

[slender gust]

Like this is a Torty log for the boss I was trying to compare

[gentle nova]

Torty is washed

[spark river]

2 completely different playstyles

[gentle nova]

Yes and the rg one is superior

[slender gust]

What's the deal with the RG spam playstyle? Are you just not caring about Abundance stacks at all, and only pressing Rejuv with PotA or during downtime?

[spark river]

Is that an old log or does torty play prosperity

[brazen stream]

hey guys has anyone tried the Dream of Cenarius build?

[spark river]

Yeah thats old

[bright swift]

no, nobody here has

[spark river]

Also litany in that log

[slender gust]

Old log and he was also playing Prosp

[drowsy solar]

Hunter just run tank valeera as MM or dps if your BM

[brazen stream]

i have been looking for it on forums want to give it a shot

[smoky sail]

Sorry whats is the build?

[spark river]

So give it a shot

[slender gust]

TLDR is it's a fun meme in low keys, but don't

[drowsy solar]

I saw the reddit post about DoC. I'm giggling a little

[brazen stream]

that is why i am asking idk, i have heared that it is a new thing

[pastel dragon]

played this in 17 PoS and felt just fine, im gonna keep running it till i hit w/e healing wall

[spark river]

0tv

[tough frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTiQy4yTWgE

[spark river]

Lol

[shrewd badger]

Hello, may i ask a stupid question : lifebloom on tank or on a dps ? (in raid)

[slender gust]

Self

[spark river]

Yourself

[shrewd badger]

!!!

thanks

[drowsy solar]

The only danger is people like this too much and suddenly resto is another disc haha.

[brazen stream]

how to heal in raid i cant get more than 50 - 60 k HPS -,-

[tough portal]

'-' not with that build

Certainly

[spark river]

You should check out common mistakes in the resources section

[tough portal]

Thoughts?

[bright swift]

i played that

in a 10

[pulsar kettle]

[drowsy solar]

Next resto 2p gonna be 50% cast time reduction on wrath and Starfire /hj

[bright swift]

quitting then

[tough portal]

They're about to change WG to apply low duration Rejuvs instead

And make DOC heal all targets with Rejuv

[tough frigate]

In the video I posted the link to they guy was using the cenarius build in 18's lol

[drowsy solar]

Well that's Dorki. He's a content creator

[tough frigate]

And yeah, he mentions pugs but I can safely say not like the pugs I'm ever in 😂

[pastel dragon]

i find i like VI and nurturing dormency with doc because it means i can ramp before a damage window and be covered on hots thu the 15 seconds,

[drowsy solar]

I don't think I've seen the zeitgeist like a lower hps and harder to execute healing build before. It's fun.

[pastel dragon]

it is fun doing some more dmg and feeling like im contributing more lol

[tough portal]

Very often these title players have to do the same or less HPS in the same spots compared to random pugs in 5 key levels lower

I'd be careful with just looking at a key level number and presuming you'll always be having an easier time healing your own keys there just cuz your key level is lower

[trim bluff]

Dorki reduced the average resto druid key level by -2

[tough portal]

And ofc you may choose to just talent for the great runs and hope for the best, but the suggestion that you dont drop 10-20% healing in these talent swaps is to cover every/most keys, not just the ones that go really well

[kind star]

man resto druid is such a blast in keys 😄 havent done m+ since DF

[drowsy solar]

Auto cast Efflorescence has been such a blessing

[tough portal]

I like auto cast Efflo existing

[brisk lodge]

just to confirm - if i don't do any raiding and just dungeons, i should be using my bonus rolls in nexus point right? in balance spec?

[tough portal]

I also like manual Efflo fuck that Lifetreading shit

[nova torrent]

seat seems good too depending on what you need

i didnt know about balance for loot spec tho

[tough portal]

Seat has too many items

[glass crane]

my favorite cope

[kind star]

Last time I played wasnt like efflo a spell on its own, was weird to me for awhile and that its also paired with lb too.

[nova torrent]

i been running seat bc i need most of them, mainly was neck and legs. now just need neck

[whole horizon]

Efflorescence changes to Lifetreading in your spellbook when you take that talent. If you drop it, you get Efflorescence again.

[spark river]

This actually goes hard

I see prosperity

Its trash

[kind star]

ur right im dumb haha

[spark river]

If nick would be nice to not outheal everyone on liquid by 50k on druid that would be great

[tough portal]

More Swiftmend more better for POTA BI procs

And also

Need to pool healing

For when you're out of Call

[tough portal]

This happens a lot

[spark river]

Lmaooo

Outhealing the content creator kekw

[kind star]

I think in raid you always SM urself with lb, but in M+ do you sometimes SM a dps that dropped low or still try to mostly use on tank?

[nova torrent]

i just cant figure out how to get rid of thesze buffs showing on df,. any thoughts? or something to check on blizz ui settings?

[tough portal]

You can check the mitigation % on the damage taken tab in a bunch of these bosses and for specific mechanics and the average mitigation % on title range keys is like 30-40%, and you get 10-15% from random little apes in a 15

[spark river]

Always sm the lb person with vi

[kind star]

figured as much wanted to be sure, thanks!

[spark river]

Ns regrowth should be your go to for someone suddenly dropping low

[kind star]

yeah or the apex proc will top them.

I havent played in a while so just farming 2s to get used to the dungeons and rdudu.

[hardy junco]

i wonder when they nerf us

its not legal what were doing on paladins

[narrow monolith]

surely drop 1 tv for Nd

[tough portal]

You dont understand

It's ok

Vrocas been typing furiously for 10 mins

Cant wait

[spark river]

Lmao

He heard paladins and is typing a manifesto

[limpid jacinth]

magnum opus inc

[tough portal]

(it's just the cat walking on the keyboard)

[wraith herald]

[ornate pollen]

finally, found a belo H pug to let me 2/1/15

[pulsar kettle]

waiting on that secret sauce

vrocas i beg

[limpid jacinth]

he’s edging us all now

[spark river]

Hes cooking a copypasta i can feel it

[ornate pollen]

it's just going to be a single word after all this.

[solid hemlock]

he's never gonna give us up or let us down

[solar valve]

Have a question, im sure someone has done a sim with using Oil of Dawn.... is it worth it or 100% no?

[kind star]

goddamn... failed on a 2 seat 💀

wipefest on 2nd boss kept doing 100k+ hps tho idk the mechanics much

[solid hemlock]

that one is tough until you get a group that doesn't eat glue

[sacred wasp]

i dont htink theres really any filtering you can do of debuffs

its kinda all or nothing

like how u cant get rid of the fuckin haste buff in magisters on frames

[kind star]

no one was kicking the one that disorients

[solid hemlock]

i did that for the first time at +10 and they nailed the interrupts so it was smooth af

[kind star]

basically interupt the disorient and clear as many orbs with the big circle right? is there anything else to that one

[nova torrent]

so its considered a debuff? im just doing 10s for vault. so basically just deal with it if youre showing debuffs

i mean must be a debuff, i have buffs disabled

[sacred wasp]

yeah, generally with debuffs u kinda just have to deal with it unfortunately

thank you glizzard

[nova torrent]

makes sense, thanks

[solid hemlock]

yeah pretty much

[pastel dragon]

@tough portal how did you like playing doc without germination? After thinking about it taking 2x TV and NB* does seem interesting. I'd just worry about your hots not covering the full 15 second damage window

[whole horizon]

its not an issue with grid2, must just be a danders thing

i never see unimportant debuffs like the Haste debuff in MT, sated, or other weird ones like that

[marble brook]

what nerfs did we get?

[stable verge]

any1 got a good catweave build?

[tough portal]

It wasnt a serious post mate

[pastel dragon]

Oh ok xD I like trying things tho!

[deft oar]

allo chat, what rotation are you doing to heal the crystals on lura? is it worth to 2x rejuv? atm im just doing lb regrowth sm ns regrowth spam

[ornate pollen]

would be cool if you could play M+ without abundance

I guess you can, but not as an rdru

[thorn plover]

You can do anything you put your mind to

When will we start seeing some doc raid builds

Let's get some real memes

[ornate pollen]

I kinda worry about the doc fotmers. They're going to stain pugs for the rest of us.

[harsh quail]

doc for bird egg phase

[thorn plover]

Already happening

[pastel dragon]

Or for pallies, theres three targets to hit i guess

[ornate pollen]

I have to put "I don't run doc" to get an invite

[clever tiger]

is it generally smarter to be spending coins in dungeons as opposed to raid, because you get more rolls? or is it more appropriate to just think of specific pieces of gear you need, and which dungeons/raidbosses have those

[pastel dragon]

I mean ive been doing it fine up to 17s but I do clearly communicate with the group if theyre ok trying

[whole horizon]

either, at the end of the day your BiS trinkets are from raid

spending in dungeons first is generally a good idea to speed up gearing myth-track in each slot

ilvl is still big and you probably have excess crests to enhance whatever you get

[ornate pollen]

farming avoidance in NPX is where 100% of my bonus rolls are going

gaze will show up in vault eventually

[pastel dragon]

What will happen when you reroll a dungeon that you've already got all the bonus rolls from

[whole horizon]

i dont think it lets you?

[ornate pollen]

oh it doesn't reset?

[clever tiger]

I've got trinkets already, I'll figure out which slots I need and see which dungeons I need to run

[tough portal]

I imagine it resets the loot table

[ornate pollen]

I thought I read somewhere it resets

[tough portal]

Nobody knows bro there's only been 5 coins max

3 really since the first 2 didnt count for the loot table

[whole horizon]

i'm just wondering why it would matter, or why you would

i guess getting the same piece twice for 2 spcs?

[tough portal]

What else?

[ornate pollen]

you can get terts

[tough portal]

You're gonna get the full myth tracked pretty early

So you just spam coins on a dungeon with mostly good items for tertiaries yeah

[pastel dragon]

At a point aiming for tertiary on a piece will be the only thing left to do

[tough portal]

Skyreach also a good one for that

[whole horizon]

ig it would reset, that makes sense

[ornate pollen]

do we really get +1 bonus roll every week?

That can't be right

[whole horizon]

thats what it said

should read the blue post to corroborate

only place i saw the +1 thing was on the chart

[pastel dragon]

Oh so it won't be 2 per week going forward?

[ornate pollen]

Not looking forward to running NPX 15 times in a week

[tough portal]

Where was the chart

[pastel dragon]

I did notice I got a random extra token on my alt so I had 3 this week on that char

Which I didn't spend any on before wednesday

[tough portal]

I dont imagine it'll be 1 per week, no

The weekly quests to acquire them give 2, there's no version of them that gives only 1

[whole horizon]

yeah i re-read the bluetracker post

its just +2 per week until the end of the season

[formal fjord]

Keeper is more for damage and WS is more for healing, its about preference but if you are learning then start with WS because the point is to first be good at healing.

[formal fjord]

Okay cool so legitimately just lifebloom uptime 😄 100% is the goal for that

[sudden rover]

guys how can i track call of the elder druid pls pls

[oak garnet]

In blizz cool down manager

Then your debuff lasts for 1 minute

[sudden rover]

i know that was a troll question

[drowsy solar]

The vault pity coins being useful for another roll is so good

I think my goal right now is to hit 285 before Nilhammer makes it a joke

[nova torrent]

do we do balance loot spec when doing m+ for extra roll?

or that just for npx?

[opal hare]

Is there a way to keep track of Call of the Elder Druid's cd?

[analog skiff]

why do we go wildstalker in raid after 12.0.5 ?

[opal hare]

oh i just saw someone ask

[drowsy solar]

I guess whichever option removes trinkets you don't want haha

[nova torrent]

lol k

[drowsy solar]

Given m+ trinkets in general are on the less desired side

[tough portal]

Cuz more healing

[raven turtle]

how do i dps

[analog skiff]

but they didnt change the hero trees ?

[opal hare]

Wait can you only track when Call of the Elder Druid is active and not how long it has on cd?

[thorn plover]

Big lifebloom blooms with the self healing modifiers

[thorn plover]

Look at your debuffs

[tough portal]

That's a fair question
The buff to our Apex makes WS ability to buff up healing on 1 target a lot scale up to more targets via Everbloom

And outpace KOTG

[craggy lotus]

Cool I will try to keep that up. Nothing else too crazy? Should I try to focus on catweaving while im trying to push these keys or is that too much complexity? I have fluid form but havent set up my bars for both yet. I feel I would need all healing buttons on my cat form or something lol

[opal hare]

ah its a debuff, thanks

[tough portal]

It was already close before, so the Apex buff took it over

[analog skiff]

ty

[gentle charm]

wait it can't be that I have to do 12 fuckin m+ to get the bonus roll shit right

[tough portal]

There were a few logs especially on the self healing fights doing really well with WS before patch

[tough portal]

18 total, if you've already gotten started then could be 12

Or you can do raid bosses

Or delves

[gentle charm]

oh god

chores

[edgy reef]

Are there any good resto druid specific addons that track cooldowns, actions, etc.? I remember using random weakauras to track these things... this would go beyond the cooldown manager's ability.

[analog skiff]

in this case we can we go regenesis instead of grove guardians since we don't play KOTG or maybe UG (4set with this one looks fire)

[proven phoenix]

I dont understand why the bonus roll quest didnt automatically get put in your log if you entered a delve or raid or dungeon

[thorn plover]

Just afk lfr, or do t1 bountiful delves

[gentle charm]

oh that's a good idea

[thorn plover]

Regenesis

[analog skiff]

30% is 30%

[thorn plover]

Lots are using LifebloomAlert to track pandemic timing and missing lifebloom. Also lots using HoTTracker for better rejuv/abundance tracking. Weakauras can do both as well

[thorn plover]

It's only 30% when the person is at 1hp

[edgy reef]

Gotcha, are there any that track the cooldown of dream of cenarius or the other talent for the dps build?

[analog skiff]

well f regenesis what about UG

with the 4set

[thorn plover]

Why are you trying to reinvent the wheel

[analog skiff]

wdym

[whole horizon]

the point from GG to just about anywhere else is really inconsequential

in prepatch we were dropping GG for Ysera's Gift

because it really doesnt matter

you want GG for pathing, no?

nvm ig it doesnt matter with apex we're not taking wild synth

[analog skiff]

no u can go also UG

[whole horizon]

i think thats an HPS loss

GGs arent amazing but UG is underwhelming too

[analog skiff]

feels weird having GG when i go WS :DD

[tough portal]

3-4% talent vs 1% talent why do you wanna do that

[gentle nova]

Ug is less than1% per pt in 5 man

[tough portal]

Why are yall dropping GG lol

[analog skiff]

bcsi didnt know that 😄

those numbers

[gentle nova]

So what do you base your tc on

[tough portal]

Just copy guide build mate

Voulk isnt hiding secret massive gains from you

[gentle nova]

Kinda late to be inventing builds

Do that on ptr 12.1

[analog skiff]

differenet talents are being run

[sudden rover]

is that for raid or keys? also fuck ND

[analog skiff]

came here to get answers not invent anything

[analog skiff]

raid

[sudden rover]

oh ok then nd is good nvm

[tough portal]

Who's running unstoppable growth

[thorn plover]

I honestly think he's gotta be rage baiting. Did same thing last night

Lol

[modest osprey]

anyone know if there is a way to have the lifebloom display duration remaining on the cdm? It only shows a duration when it's on myself

[analog skiff]

it says nobody runs tranquil mind but i can send you log

top parser does 😄

[thorn plover]

Put it as tracked buff or tracked bar, not cooldown in the cdm

[tough portal]

0.7% talent vs 0.65%

Crazy

[sacred wasp]

stoppable growth

[proven phoenix]

how much does 1 ug point do

[craggy lotus]

any tips on having awareness while still focusing on the health bars? I feel I have to be lazer focused on the bars and I keep standing in shit

[thorn plover]

Practice

Where are your health bars located

[craggy lotus]

it only started happening on +15s or so. I put it kinda right below my feet

[thorn plover]

Just gotta get more comfortable with the dungeons and your healing

[proven phoenix]

experience

that is literally all there is to it

just play more

[gentle nova]

1.5 in raid but it hits 7-9 t

So nothing in m+

[tulip nexus]

thats fine positioning on the frames, just more keys and youre good

[craggy lotus]

Got you ty. just did a windrunner 15 where i stood in the green circles like 2-3 times lol

im just too focused on the bars. ill keep practicing

[oak garnet]

Takes time to have your eyes less glued to bars and more to whats happening. A lot of the heavier damage events in dungeons are predictable

Like WRS: first pull, poison vial guys, evil mushroom

Dragknhawks w shitter dps

[elfin musk]

any1 else playing druid have this issue with cdm? cant figure out the issue, iremove the overlaps/enlarges and new skills jus overlap/enlarge wasnt sure if this is a druid issue or not since druids the only 1 i have this issue on resto specifically

[proven phoenix]

do you use a cdm addon

[elfin musk]

ye bcm

[normal jetty]

Finally saw the light and tried tank Valeria instead of tanking myself, and now I’m mad I didn’t swap soon. Just wondered why curios you all are running with her tanking?

[proven phoenix]

not sure then I dont use that addon myself and I've never seen that happen to someone else

[tough portal]

How do yall play guardian that you're being slower than AFKing for tank valeera to clean it up for you?

Crazy

[analog skiff]

from where did u get that btw

[normal jetty]

Seems much more carefree to me

[elfin musk]

yeah im not sure myself it isnt an issue for any of my other characters and i havent really done anything to them

[tough portal]

warcraftlogs.com

[drowsy solar]

Tank specs with dps Valeera so fast in delves.

[analog skiff]

:D

[tough portal]

Kk

[merry mulch]

wow I love failing my key because for some reason silvermoon soiree spread was changed to not restore mana

so I had nothign to drink

[tough portal]

@onyx trail

[thorn plover]

The guy just really likes to argue with nothing to back himself up other than random shitty logs, same thing last night

[tough portal]

Was it you with the no mana drink food too?

[thorn plover]

Can't believe you guys aren't getting mage food, or sanguithorn tea. Smh

[analog skiff]

zip it up when you are done

[drowsy solar]

I make my own tea

[analog skiff]

nah im was just trolling you gave pretty solid info no jks, thx g

[formal fjord]

Nah just stick to that, its a huge amount of our healing it buffs so many things and heals so many thing. Not many people catweave anymore in keys, we have had our spellcasting buffed A LOT. so dont worry about that until you get your healing sorted, you can weave spells if youre comfortable but the LB this is huge.

[craggy lotus]

Thank you!

[formal fjord]

no worries enjoy!

[gentle nova]

So how is keeper the play if you need st healing

Doesnt compute

[tough portal]

How much dps do you do in NPX?

50k more is crazy

For talent swaps

[gentle nova]

The diff in st healing is big

Between keeper and ws

[tough portal]

Rain doesnt believe in things like numbers

[hearty coral]

Mana food issues is crazy

Just buy a 1k stack of the cheap tea

It's like 1g per

7% per tick

What's the cheap flower called

[west topaz]

that was like every season in shl 💀

[hearty coral]

Sanguithorn

[west topaz]

survived

i loved it

but... i also was an hpal then not a rdrood

[tough portal]

Yes I wouldnt say that you argue, you just state random shit, ask people to run off into DMs, and move goal posts without acknowledging when you're wrong
You literally delete your messages from when you say random shit that is shown to be wrong after lol

Literally deleting your messages bro wha do you want me to think you arent a tool?

[wide goblet]

Oof

[tough portal]

You kept arguing that implant wasnt better than twin sprouts until you magically started playing implant eh?

Now people are gaining 50k DPS by swapping to Call KOTG build?!

Give it 2h and it'll be deleted or?

Why dont you talk about the stuff on topic mate

Come across great when you make personal comments instead

[stray cipher]

on heroic l'ura do you need to drop the crystal if you get targeted by a mechanic?

[onyx trail]

?

[tough portal]

Idk I thought someone in pvp channel

Had their mana drink not give mana anymore

[onyx trail]

nah

enji is just a pvper

what else is new

[hearty coral]

Who are you talking to here it almost reads like someone deleted their messages

[wide goblet]

Before 12.0.5, all food was restoring mana, then it got fixed to only water when patch hit

Was running a key and got real confused

[tough portal]

Idk I asked how much DPS you do for KOTG Call to be giving you 50k over a regular full healing talents WS build

Like 75-80k DPS is a lot for a NPX

[hearty coral]

I was more making a joke about seeing messages get deleted in real time on discord

[tough portal]

But you never answered

[vivid elbow]

You probably gain like 20-25k using doc from my testing.

[tough portal]

Maybe you answered and deleted it before I read, that's my fault

[rustic copper]

VI with reduced sm cd going a little crazy mode

[plain rampart]

guys, do u use any nice addon to enhance the dungeon/raid finder?

[ornate pollen]

Did Vrocas ever say something?

[main timber]

Fell asleep on keyboard so I muted him until he wakes up

Second regular to do this in Midnight

[ornate pollen]

Was really hoping for a manifesto

[nocturne relic]

Anyone have problems with NSRT not working past P1 of Alleria on mythic?

[hearty coral]

Everything's gone