resto

[keen wave]

ah, doc is dream of cenarius?

[supple seal]

Yes

[keen wave]

noted thanks

[jovial sand]

How do we use Heart of the Wild now in m+? In moonkin form?

[supple seal]

The WS build with caster dps talents wouldn’t use boom form. You just take it to get to sunfire

[loud mango]

moonkin for big packs

kitty for bosses

[supple seal]

You still use HOTW in kitty cat for prio targets and bosses

[jovial sand]

Thanks!

[supple seal]

Yeh, what Jtam said.

I don’t like using the boomkin hotw in packs either. Doesn’t feel impactful at all

[sudden edge]

When spec’d into Photosynthesis, does having Lifebloom on yourself cause your other hots to heal 20% faster? Just not seeing this in th e tooltip

[pulsar kettle]

its not in the tooltip because it doesnt do that

[whole horizon]

thats what photosynthesis used to do

like in TWW season 1

or maybe even DF idr

[desert kayak]

it did that from bfa until midnight

but not anymore

[wary quarry]

is it wise to spoend rolls in spire for the chance at heart, or are there dungeons with loads of strong options its better to spend in

[plain marsh]

Thought it was nerfed to 10% recently at one point also

[harsh quail]

nexus has weapon/chest/ring and hands for catalyst, only slots you dont really want there are cloak boots and the other ring

[desert kayak]

in tww ye

[maiden jetty]

Hey guys i was thinking mb spending my cores on my resto alt that just hit 80 in x2 +10s for some quick potential myth gear.
Any dung you lads would suggest? this is just a m+ alt that 99% wont do above HC

[peak marlin]

Okay, how, as a Resto Druid, do y'all heal the 3rd boss in Seat? Like... Holy fuck

[tulip nexus]

the boots are good too if you cant afford mythic boe with perfect stats

[rain oyster]

nexus point

[spare delta]

anything you would change here?

[maiden jetty]

thanks, ye felt taht from the bis list off wow head too

[rain oyster]

like 5-6/7 items there are really good

[spare delta]

anything you would change here? for m+

[tulip nexus]

i would drop regenerative heartwood and put that point in harmonious blooming

[bright swift]

not HB, put it in ND

m+ players hate ND for 0 reason

[pulsar kettle]

reason is bald

[tulip nexus]

should take ursine too

[pastel dragon]

dream of cenarius in M+ with star fire spam? are we making that a thing

[harsh quail]

not really, its a fun change of pace for weekly keys, but thats about it

[pastel dragon]

fair enough does sound fun in some +10s

[pastel dragon]

I also like only regenerative heartwood instead of that AND improved swiftmend, but i agree that extra should go in ND

I've been enjoying prosperity over VI in keys too

[toxic burrow]

What do you like about Prosperity?

[pastel dragon]

on big pulls where there was time elapsed since the last I have 2 charges ready for mroe burst healing with apex and there is some forgiveness when not hitting SM exactly on CD because the 2nd charge continues ticking down

[toxic burrow]

Mmmh I'll try it !

[pastel dragon]

the trade off is you will be casting LB more often but i find thats ok in M+ setting

especially since yourem ore likely to move LB targets as needed for damage events in M+ opposed to raid

[toxic burrow]

The good part is also that you can feel free to cast SM on anyone who needs healing instead of on the LB person

[bright swift]

VI users in m+ 👎

[oak garnet]

Big prosp ND guy

[pastel dragon]

to be fair, it wasn't my idea i heard it from other users on here

[toxic burrow]

Why do all the wowhead builds recommend VI for M+ then? Are they badly written?

[oak garnet]

In higher keys tanks get fucked

[thorn plover]

Because it's easier for the casual player

Which is who wowhead guides are targeted at

[toxic burrow]

Surprised they don't even mention it though

[oak garnet]

And VI extending hots is good for photo value

But I think prosp is totally solid and viable and if you like it play it

[thorn plover]

If they had to mention every choice node the guide would be twice as long and no one would read it anyways

[waxen laurel]

how can i do a missing aura with symbiotic relationship? i tried with arcui but "missing" is always true

[oak garnet]

I am sending sm on tank a lot and not using it to spot heal

[thorn plover]

BuffReminders

[oak garnet]

So w prosp you Def can use sm more to spot heal

[pastel dragon]

i rarely consider SM for the actual heal value but just as a proc for apex

[waxen laurel]

will try ty

[tulip nexus]

why ND tho?

[oak garnet]

More regrowth

Less rejuv

[pastel dragon]

ND jsut gives you more free globals for other casts

[oak garnet]

Apex changes make photo stronger and I think making someone immortal with perma 4+ hots makes vi a hard lock

But people better than me like prosp for more burst and sm spot heal

[frigid glen]

is there any guide for moonkin dps in resto spec ?

[pastel dragon]

just click balance spells but not in moonkin form

[spare delta]

isnt hb not good for keeping the tanks or a emergency for a dps up?

[jaunty drum]

Hi guys. Been using the Lifebloom Alert addon but the audio seems to be super low since the patch, any way I can increase the volume?

[bright swift]

it's just not needed. LB is already an extreme powerhouse

[turbid venture]

But top resto druids pick VI, do they not?

Also, excuse my ignorance, what is ND?

[whole horizon]

nurturing dormancy

[pulsar kettle]

top resto druids!

[whole horizon]

its a mix of VI/Prosperity

VI is really comfortable, but there are pulls/checks that Prosperity trivializes bc of extra throughput

[turbid venture]

I'm glad prosperity is viable, that playstyle is a more enjoyable to me

[whole horizon]

when youre good enough to need to decide yourself, you should know enough to pick on your own

otherwise you can heal any content and m+ up to +18 without needing to think about your build at all

i prefer prosp personally even in weekly keys

comfortability only matters if you want to play casually or if your mental stack is so overloaded you need less to focus on imo

[grave notch]

reason for HB

[whole horizon]

yeah our tank has been getting railed

i was skeptical of letting LB sit on the tank but i see actual need for it now

yup

i play feral in phys comp

bet

[tulip nexus]

yeah agree, starting to prog 18s now with resil 17 and the tank damage is becoming an issue at times so HB just feels a lot better than ND

[wary quarry]

did they make natures swiftness not work with convoke macro , havent seen anyone really sure, and if so, is it even worth taking natures splendor anymore

[tulip nexus]

doesnt work anymore yeah

[wary quarry]

could take the cd on NS instead for spot heals since it isnt needed for convoke now

not like any are a big diff mind

[candid swallow]

Hi, anyone have a good way of showing cooldown on Dream of cenarius? 🙂 Thanks in advance

[wary quarry]

its in your debuffs i think, no idea about a tracking addon tho

i dont rly enjoy it so been a while

[candid swallow]

im sorry, i meant call of the elder druid of course

its not listed in blizzard thingy

[wary quarry]

i know, the cd part made it make sense xD

[candid swallow]

😄

[dim lava]

gotta love when a tank pulls 4 casters no1 interrupts every1 gets one shot by bolts going off and then blames the healer 🙂

[thorn plover]

Because VI and prosp are completely personal preference. Neither is better than the other, both have pros and cons

[thick moat]

bad heal, gg, lerntupley
xDD

[dim lava]

pretty much haha

[thorn plover]

Why didn't you roar or typhoon them

[turbid venture]

Awesome, I remember trying to argue for prosperity during the late stages of beta, but got shot down hard

[west topaz]

10 pit is harder than 18 pit rn jfc

people letting absolutely everything go off, gargoyles dropping people, ice being dropped on people, bolts not being dealt with, random mobs being pulled, cones being stood in, tyrannus piles not being stood on lmaoooo

[gaunt willow]

Dude, you need to heal unhealable damage

[thick moat]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-knows-that-kevin-hart-cold-as-balls-duh-we-all-know-that-gif-20568946

[cursive pilot]

I know im standing in puddle but your hps should be able to outheal it man

[agile valley]

did anyone else on eu log in to

i already used my rolls and got gaze

[wary quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-sassy-gay-choreography-lgbt-gif-22409823

[cursive pilot]

eu

[agile valley]

i thought the bug was an NA thing

[dim lava]

wut

i rolled on 5 chars in NA and no1 got more cores

[agile valley]

ah wtf no idea why i got them i used it in dreamrift anyway

[dim lava]

oh

[tulip nexus]

if u used the rolls before the hotfix

[dim lava]

logged into main now and i got it

[tulip nexus]

u should get new ones

[agile valley]

thats sick

[wary quarry]

does it spend both of the voidcores when bonus roll, done 1 roll and its used 2?

[agile valley]

2 in raid 1 in keys

[dim lava]

its 1 for m+ 2 for raid

[tulip nexus]

raid roll is 2 tokens

[wary quarry]

fml

[agile valley]

and 2 attempts at nexus point lets go

[wary quarry]

didnt spot that if it even tells you, 3 seperate bars and currencies for the bonus rolls made it super clear lol

[pulsar kettle]

[ember forge]

so the meme build is now the actual build? lmao

[main timber]

The DoC build? No I don't think so. I'm not putting it in WH / IV guides

Might make a small note on it

[ember forge]

yea just top guys have it on right now on murlok

[grizzled seal]

Same for me lol

The rich get richer

[main timber]

100% very popular at that level

[crude basin]

The Doc build seems super hard to play. You gotta prehot perfectly cycle your cds perfectly. Super harder in pugs to play

[thorn plover]

JB had some good stuff to say about it on stream yesterday. Not recommended for pugs, gives up a lot of healing, heal checked between coted, etc

[ember forge]

im finishing 17s resil and I am not sure what to most be using

yea that was what I was wondering

[rain hinge]

can someone link me the reason why harmonious blooming isn't worth it? i thought i read somewhere that we don't really need the stacks of mastery

[idle lake]

this is so sad

[ember forge]

i feel like i wish i had some really good resto druid whispering in my ear as i play lol

[main timber]

HB is good, it's just less good than it might immediately seem since you already have a lot of HoTs on the target so the two you gain are quite heavily diminished

[idle lake]

how hard is midnight falls heroic?

is it puggable

[thorn plover]

It's harder than Chim mythic

Probably puggable if you get everyone to install the NS memory game addon

[rain hinge]

understood thank you

[arctic geode]

I'm hearing a lot about KotG restoration damage being OP this patch, anyone have a spec that goes hard on KotG damage?

[idle lake]

unlikely...

[crude basin]

Is it worth it to drop ND to get both HB and NB?

[pulsar kettle]

1 talent point becoming two?

new tech

[rain hinge]

isn't the KOTG build this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTiQy4yTWgE

[pulsar kettle]

[main timber]

The wowhead kotg M+ tree takes all of the damage nodes. In very high keys they also take Call of the Elder Druid + Dream of Cenarius for more damage but I wouldn't recommend that if you are just healing 10-17 keys

[idle lake]

how much less healing is kotg than ws

[main timber]

Like 5-10% or so

[real carbon]

Can you explain that reasoning? I agree with it intuitively but I don't know quite why. Shouldn't you need more healing the higher the keys?

[idle lake]

things die quicker = things dont do as much damage

[main timber]

I'm not so worried about raw HPS - more a lack of coordination or worse play

By all means give it a crack if you want

[real carbon]

Yeah in lower keys I feel like I have to babysit the group more as they tend to do more mistakes. Maybe that's it? I'm also not quite so good I can quite weave the dps rotation in atm

[main timber]

Yeah in this situation I think you should just play Wildstalker and focus mostly on healing. You'll still take caster talents though

[real carbon]

Yeah exactly

When the group overall is better at avoiding damage and interrupting stuff, you can probably afford to go a higher output build in terms of dmg (with still amazing healing ofc)

But I may be wrong

[idle lake]

in m+ do we also keep lb on ourselves

or do we move it around

[real carbon]

Depends on the situation

Tank by default, but you move it around in packs or fights where the tank takes little dmg and the group a lot

[spare delta]

can i see talents

[arctic geode]

Thanks

[formal plaza]

I've ask that same question and got several different replies... so if I was AI this would be my response

in M+ keep lb on tank unless there are situations where incoming tank dmg isnt that high and there are like 2 things that go out that need to be dispelled

You can also keep lb on yourself if it helps you position efflo better because the group is mostly ranged

[pulsar kettle]

[boreal karma]

why are my grid2 debuffs looking so ugly now

and how do i change that back

why is the frame purple and there is like a fading from top to bottom in purple

[lament river]

I got 2 coins i can spend but dont have anymore crest to spend before next week - shoulnt i wait to use them to next reset? Since i cant upgrade anyway and i dont know what i get from vault

[main timber]

Depends what you want to loot. If you wanted Gaze then you can only kill the boss once a week anyway

So holding them for next week wouldn't help

If you are just sending them into dungeons then sure

[lament river]

I want gaze to but next week i got 2 new to spend on raid

[main timber]

Yes but you can only kill the boss and roll one time a week right

[lament river]

there saved for dungeons ye so strategical it would be best to wait for nextweek

[boreal karma]

@bright swift do you have the same with the grid2 dispels?

[lament river]

i killed mythic 1 boss this week but got belt on coins

[spare delta]

so many different build variants - what are you guys running in keys ?

[main timber]

Oh you mean your freebie coins?

[lament river]

yep

[main timber]

I'm running the wowhead Wildstalker build, but if you mention key level or something we can help more

[lament river]

the "freebie" coins

[loud mango]

You're gonna get another two next week so why save?

[lament river]

Wildstalker in keys its very good for healing

[loud mango]

Start knocking things off the duplicate lists in m+ imo

[lament river]

Nexts weeks is adressed for gaze. The thing is if i example get loot from nexus in vault (ring/chest)

[loud mango]

Then you already have the item from this week

And can take something else form vault

Or grab tokens

[lament river]

True

[spare delta]

10-15 keys 🙂

[bright swift]

no

[boreal karma]

why do i have this weird frame and fading

from the dispels

[main timber]

Yeah play wowhead Wildstalker build

[spare delta]

is my current build but kinda not sre if its fully right

[boreal karma]

i cant find a setting for that

[grizzled seal]

If your health bar is getting colored then it's in the multibar somewhere

[bright swift]

it's under health multibar

[main timber]

Looks good

[spare delta]

like not sure if i should take liviness or take hb and not sure if i should keep prosp

[boreal karma]

i do want the healthbar getting coloured just no frame + fading

is that in there?

[main timber]

There are plenty of sidegrade points you can play with later but I'd just stick with this for now

[grizzled seal]

What does "frame" mean here

[main timber]

Liveliness is a tiny HPS increase and a decent damage loss so your call

[spare delta]

what about props or vi?

[boreal karma]

this purple lines around my partyframe

also there is fading

[grizzled seal]

Ok that's in border then

And by fading you mean gradient

That has to be in multibar settings too

[boreal karma]

that was befor the update

no outline and no fading from top to bottom

[versed stone]

if you have private aura dispels enabled, then that is coloring all dispels using blizzard gradient

and can't be changed

you need to change private aura dispel frame level to 1

[boreal karma]

there is no settings in my border for that

[versed stone]

and then private aura dispels will color only your border

private-aura-dispels frame level to 1

[idle lake]

is this the raid frame bug

[primal oak]

Has anyone some tips for mana problems in m+? I'm getting to a point were I'm constantly trying to drink/meld for drinking because I'm getting oom. But when I drink for too long I'm getting behind on hots for the next pack. I'm probably doing something wrong here but not sure what. Maybe too much rejuvs on the whole party? I kinda feel like if I don't have everyone at least in a rejuv I can't keep up with healing checks.

[idle lake]

u can give people rejuvs with swiftmend

[primal oak]

I'm already trying to use it on cd

[main timber]

If you have a log we can help but honestly it should be quite rare that you drop below 80% mana even so likely doing something wrong

[primal oak]

hm yea probably, I go below 50% very fast

[main timber]

Make sure you aren't trying to rejuv x2 everyone at all times. That's very mana draining for not much healing

Swiftmend -> Rejuv is often sufficient for like 70% of your rejuv casts

Cast Regrowth

[primal oak]

thats what I was trying to do, like 8-10 rejuv on the party

and then regrowth after

[main timber]

That is bad healing and bad mana

[primal oak]

Î will try with less. Maybe its just a skill issue of knowing every pack

[boreal karma]

@grizzled seal new and old and i didnt change a thing

[primal oak]

but I feel if I don't already have rejuvs up while going for the next pack it goes wrong very fast.

[spark river]

Seems like you simply dont understand when damage is coming so you spam rejuvs and overcompensate

[primal oak]

but we can't "know" exactly without the timers? Or am I missing something

[tulip nexus]

there are still timers for boss abilities

[versed stone]

your 1st job is lifebloom/efflo uptime and wildgrowth uptime to proc symbio, you can cast 2-3 reju and then sotf reju and have enough for any healing event in 3 globals

[primal oak]

wow that would help a lot. how can I get them?

[versed stone]

if you don't utilize everbloom but just spam reju whole dungeon you are going to get nowhere

[tulip nexus]

wait, are there?

wtb

[frigid glen]

is wildstalker or keeper more healing focused ?

in m+

[idle lake]

HOW

[primal oak]

I'm prioritizing LB uptime, not just spamming rejuvs

[idle lake]

i thought mob timers were totally gone

[primal oak]

yea same

[primal oak]

I don't know if I'm missing something but how would that be enough for any healing event?

for example with bladerush

If I don't blanket hots ppl die in 2 ticks

[tulip nexus]

WS is more healing

[versed stone]

depends if you have at least 1 symbio stack on every1 and if you're swapping bloom to lowest target and triggering it

or just blanketing reju and then trying to spam regro

which will 1) run you oom 2) wipe your group anyway

[primal oak]

sure I'm always switching LB

I will try to get a log

[spare delta]

do we run twin spouts or implant

[main timber]

A log will help a lot. Very likely something we can spot

[plain marsh]

Goddamnit blizzard

[spare delta]

and last quest after the twin spouts so i can understand the talents is

is that talent any good ?

[faint lynx]

If you get the lifebloom counts as 3 stacks of mastery talent, does a 3 stack of lb count as 6, or just 3?

[true smelt]

What's usually our top 3 heals in a key?

[faint lynx]

^ that talent lol

[idle lake]

mine looks like this

[true smelt]

Thought we playing wildstalker?

[idle lake]

?

symbiotic blooms is right there

[true smelt]

Oh saw grove guardians and thought keeper

Not been playing my druid

Gg seems high

[grave notch]

How are you finding your WG casts/timings?

[idle lake]

on cd unless theres big damage incoming then i save it

[grave notch]

your WG healing amount % seems low-ish in this one snippet

[idle lake]

idk maybe im king noob

[true smelt]

Do we typically use wg to consume sotf?

[idle lake]

probably

i have a shit ton of overhealing every key

doing 13-15s

[half forge]

its a new feature for dispel

[rich compass]

just 3, it's based on spell ID so germination + rejuv counts as 2 but the triple lifebloom stack only counts as 1, but 3 if you have the talent that makes it count as 3

same with symbiotic blooms

[pastel dragon]

what are you dropping to take DoC? abundance and natures bounty?

or maybe NB and TV?

[faint lynx]

Gotcha ty

I don't think there's a single build that drops abundance, I think it's mandatory

[spare delta]

how are you finding the boomy caster dps over the cat weaving?

[pastel dragon]

so then i think ill try dropping TV and NB to take DoC to have some fun with it

[red lynx]

Where can I find this new caster build?

[turbid venture]

Where

[red lynx]

Never mind I guess the same guy does wowhead and IV guides

[boreal karma]

ty

[smoky grove]

If i have 4 tokens next week can i roll twice on the same boss?

[mystic pasture]

You have to rekill, which you can’t on Mythic

[sudden junco]

Sorry if this has been asked before or if this is written somewhere, but in raid using the tree build, should i synergy the tree and tranquility for mana efficiency or use them separately?

I could also save swiftmend casts to prep the mini tree for that ramp as well, but idk if it's generally considered a good play to do that

[smoky grove]

that sucks

[gentle nimbus]

Can anyone help me set up heal absorbs on Grid2? Can't find anything online, all guides are just showing how to setup actual shield absords like power word: shield etc.

[proud glacier]

Rejuv is cheaper in tree form. Just use swiftmend on cooldown with rejuv and get to free casting regrowths

[sudden junco]

Yeah I know the reju being cheaper, but because of that i was wondering if i should pop tree of life to setup a ramp for tranquility

[sharp onyx]

Hello! Does anyone know a good way to track the internal CD of Call of the elder druid? 😄

[sudden junco]

but then that's 2 cd's for one damage event

[proud glacier]

Oh I misread

I would just use them separately unless it's a long time between damage

[sudden junco]

Yeah that's probably the play and more healing down the line

[proud glacier]

I'm liking the cd uptime on this build tho

[echo token]

Hey yall i've been able to get both highly contested trinkets, Gaze and ribbon currently i have a myth trinket i picked up week one alongsize max heroic gaze, is it worth swapping the gaze for the ribbon? or lose ilevel for better trinkets?

[flint void]

my bonus rolls this week kinda shit.

useless ring 2x, already had myth tier gloves and a staff

[pastel dragon]

im jsut not sure about reforest over TV

[dim pike]

Is there a universally accepted m+ mob cast bar tracker now, or all over the place post 12.0.5?

[elder spoke]

elp, would u run 263 ribbon or 276 heart of wild for raid

paired with myth gaze

[past tusk]

is reforestation any good in m+? or not at all

[dim pike]

it is not used

[fierce isle]

Sim it

[waxen ingot]

I saw some china people dropping MS/Liveliness for Embrace

surely not better?

[fierce isle]

If you don’t need mana you can get embrace

So play MS if you need mana play Embrace if you don’t

[waxen ingot]

Clunky

[plain steeple]

Same gameplay, you just oom a few seconds faster.
For most of all fights you would never see a difference.

If a fight goes 6min for example, it’s absolutely impossible to oom with a correct gameplay.

You can full blast for like 8min with WG on cd. 🤷‍♂️

Prepare more natures bounty for more healing output.

[grizzled seal]

first coin

[waxen ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[balmy plinth]

Which build is better for M+ dmg atm, let's say 15+ keys, cat-weaving, boomy or hybrid? seen a bit of everything on raider.io so confused

[bright swift]

it's unreal how lucky you are

[ornate pollen]

is duskwraith any good for M+? hit avoidance on my myth one, vers for the party seems pretty decent for a trink

seems awful for raid

[bright swift]

why are you rolling resto in nexus point

[ornate pollen]

because I'm dumb and forgot

[plain rampart]

forgot what? 😮

[ornate pollen]

to not roll at resto so I didn't get this trash trinket

[bright swift]

but no the trinket is complete trash

[plain rampart]

damn, already wasted my two coins ....

and got the trinket lol

[ornate pollen]

yeah, seems awful

[bright swift]

[plain steeple]

Are you just talking about keys and embrace in the same sentence?
Embrace does nothing in M+.

Also that does not fit to any kind of mana related discussions.

[ornate pollen]

does gaze lose value with starfire spam?

[fierce isle]

We were discussing Ms vs Embrace in raid

[dense moss]

How does that help track https://www.wowhead.com/spell=426784/call-of-the-elder-druid ???

[gentle nova]

He answered you?

You cant track it unless you use arcui and track the debuff

[fierce isle]

Why are you Burnt Mattiu?

[gentle nova]

Voulk put it on my name

[fierce isle]

lol

[gentle nova]

And i cant swap it

[daring summit]

you should poop emote him

[gentle nova]

@main timber 💩

[daring summit]

hell ya brother

[fierce isle]

That’s crazy you can’t swap it

I didn’t know that was a thing

[dense moss]

There is no debuff.

[gentle nova]

Thereis

It has the hotw icon

[dense moss]

huh, Iinteresting I don't see it

[willow drift]

what happens if you press starsurge

[formal plaza]

yeah... starsurge is what activates it (wrath and starfire wont)

[dense moss]

yeah mb, now i see it

[maiden jetty]

Hey guys it doesnt matter if i craft a MH now if i got a myth OH? (its a fresh alt so just happen to get one and has nothing else), then go craft 3 other armor

[rustic copper]

craft a 2h

better for crests, probably better once the weapon upgrade comes out

[maiden jetty]

hmm fair ok

[rustic copper]

you should have enough items to spend myth crests on if you spend voidcores

[maiden jetty]

the OH was a voidcore 🙂

i might have adone a "something > nothing" thought and sent 1 of them and got the OH

[rustic copper]

bonus rolled chim?

[chilly kiln]

do u guys know the new build for dungeon to do alot of dmg?

[maiden jetty]

no i bonus rolled a random +10 i got boosted in by buddies right after i dinged 90 😛

[rustic copper]

unlucky

[restive kettle]

Trying to set up Clique and I am useless at understanding anything remotely technical, I basically want all my heals dispels etc. to work on mouseover and if I'm not on mouseover to cast on my target, is this possible. Any insight to other items which are useful to setup in clique is much appreciated

[rustic copper]

you'll get another 3 myth items next week too it's fine

[maiden jetty]

aye, so still go straight for the 2H craft cuz of the crests

[willow drift]

default blizz mouseover does this

[restive kettle]

It wants a bind though

Or am I missing something

[restive kettle]

It won't let me select none

Must be another setting somewhere

[willow drift]

are you able to open the dropdown?

[restive kettle]

Yes but it doesn't let me select any option

[rustic copper]

highly recommend just never targetting people, you can open up way more binds that way

[willow drift]

maybe an addon is preventing it. other than that. gg

[restive kettle]

How does it open up more binds, that means we can set up binds to do 1 thing if mouseover something else if not? Appreciate this is probably basic stuff to those who haven't returned after years out 😅

[restive kettle]

It's helpful in that I know it should work at least

[half owl]

only done two 12s so far, but also only been healing on resto for like 4 days. This is a blast ha

[boreal karma]

i have never looked at hps logs in dungeons in my whole gametime

[rustic copper]

It sounded to me like you wanted to cast rejuv on mouseover and if not mouseover cast rejuv on your target, mb if that was not what you meant

[whole horizon]

the log itself is helpful but nobody really cares about healing parses

[boreal karma]

the log yes

[whole horizon]

my healer does compare his averages though

[eternal bough]

hello guys
anyone knows why i don't see "Lycara's Teaching" in aura ?

[boreal karma]

what do you do with the information?

[whole horizon]

if youre actually a consistently good player, that data is very useful

he gauges his performance and ability to pass heal checks based on his actual HPS

[restive kettle]

It was but you made it sound like you can save keybinds by doing another way and that bit makes no sense to me unless for example you could bind 1 to rejuv if friendly targeted or if not 1 casts starfire

Which I have no idea how you would do

[boreal karma]

thats not what you look overall hps for

[ornate pollen]

send myth crests on ring or save until next week?

[boreal karma]

or average*

[whole horizon]

no, that's not what you look at it for

[ornate pollen]

I assume save

[whole horizon]

people spamming 20 keys dont need advice though

[rustic copper]

You can make it cast rejuv in mouseover or cast starfire on target and just never target friendlies

Or with clique you can put things like rejuv on left or right click

[daring summit]

@rustic copper is DOC in m+ dog shit?

[glass crane]

false I need a lot of advice

[rustic copper]

Do not ping me with m+ questions

[boreal karma]

i strongly disagree with people doing 20s dont need advice

xD

[rustic copper]

I do not do keys over 10

[whole horizon]

well

[daring summit]

bro what

[boreal karma]

there is plenty of mistakes you can find

[daring summit]

what happened

wtdf

[boreal karma]

even in the r1 logs

[rustic copper]

They are too difficult for me

[whole horizon]

yeah, i just mean they dont need you to point them out

[rustic copper]

They ruined m+ is what happened

[restive kettle]

Anywhere that can show me how to set this up?

[daring summit]

sheeeeeeeesh

[whole horizon]

easy to do log reviews for yourself and understand your own data

[daring summit]

just have AI review ur logs

[whole horizon]

not going to ask in a place like this

[boreal karma]

i never argued that logs are bad? i just said overall hps from a key is not a metric that does anything for you

[whole horizon]

where ppl who struggle with 16s will try to provide feedback

its wild in here sometimes

[boreal karma]

i dont get your point

[rustic copper]

I’m not home atm but download clique and you can open up the addon and rebind target/context menu to less used binds and bind spells to whatever you want including left/right click or left/right with modifiers

[whole horizon]

you said "you dont look at average/overall hps for that" and i said no, you dont

[rustic copper]

If you can’t figure it out dm me and I’ll send you what I have when I get the chance

[whole horizon]

he does and its useful to him

[boreal karma]

ah now i got you

i thought you argued with me

[restive kettle]

Thanks will have a play around!

[whole horizon]

yeah i mean different data is important for different reasons, the ppl struggling with 21s arent looking for the same things as the ppl who cant do more than 90k hps

[boreal karma]

but then again if you pug looking at average hps is also not usefull imo

[rustic copper]

If you can’t do 90k hps you shouldn’t be doing 10’s

Average hps is just damage taken

[boreal karma]

but damage taken in pugs can have a lot spikes

[whole horizon]

you'd be surprised

[boreal karma]

dont think you can read anything out of it

you can do the same key twice and have a 20k hps gap

but what do you do with that?

[whole horizon]

title pugs are pretty consistent

[ornate pollen]

you look at the log and try to find out why there was a 20k hps gap and take it in context. ignoring the number isn't the only choice

[whole horizon]

you see a lot of the same names and faces week to week, or you end up grouping with similar ppl even if youre not in a static

at that range you get kind of ego'd into only wanting to run with other title players

[boreal karma]

have fun doing that in 10-16 range

waste of time

[solid hemlock]

yeah someone stood in fire since they were busy eating glue

[ornate pollen]

why look at 10-16 anything?

[boreal karma]

this

[boreal karma]

if you dont have the context why do you respond to this?

[ornate pollen]

What are you even implying

[boreal karma]

if you have not read the conversation why do you join it with a sentence that doesnt make sense

[whole horizon]

i usually try not to but our static fell apart before the season even took off

my friends are lame idk

[boreal karma]

wow is a tough game

[thorn plover]

same

we did like one 15 and never played since

[arctic geode]

I want fluid form in my M+ KotG Resto build, which talent should I drop to get it? Using the wowhead spec

[thorn plover]

what key levels are you doing

[arctic geode]

10ish

[thorn plover]

then it doesnt matter

[waxen ingot]

my friend traded me mythic gaze for free cause he has a hero one

should i marry him

[thorn plover]

drop ursine

[arctic geode]

well what if I was doing 16's then. what would you drop

[whole horizon]

Ursine Vigor

[thorn plover]

still ursine

[arctic geode]

cool, thanks guys

[whole horizon]

people have gotten married for less

go for it

[thorn plover]

how to get free loot in wow in 1 easy step

[inland zephyr]

Are we supposed to never go OOM, basically?

[neat orbit]

What is the best dungeon for rerolls?

[inland zephyr]

Or is it unavoidable? I feel like I'm just doing something wrong

[thorn plover]

in what content

[thorn plover]

depends what you need

[neat orbit]

Basically all, I got one myth ring

[thorn plover]

which ring

[neat orbit]

Occlusion of void

[thorn plover]

oh so you have no rings

lol

[neat orbit]

oof

[inland zephyr]

I was given the advice of Skyreach, Mythic Chim and NPX but to sim for my gear

[thorn plover]

nexus point has most options for us

[inland zephyr]

Sorry, mid keys - 13-15

[thorn plover]

yeah you should never be anywhere near oom

youre likely pushing rejuv way too much

[inland zephyr]

What should I fill the globals I'm normally sending rejuv on with?

[fervent mica]

starfire

[neat lintel]

I am trying to heal 16 sky

[thorn plover]

depends if you need to heal or not

[fervent mica]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-michael-scott-steve-carell-the-office-pew-gif-14552925

[neat lintel]

It’s so hard lol

Too much movement around first boss

[inland zephyr]

Let's assume I do

[thorn plover]

regrowth

[whole horizon]

nah you stand in one spot and move side to side occasionally

[thorn plover]

or let your hots do their job

[thorn plover]

shouldnt be moving much at all

[neat lintel]

Where do I stand?

[whole horizon]

any more than that and youre just doing weird, unnecessary movement

[thorn plover]

pick an open line

and you just side step

then step back

[neat lintel]

Boss throwing projectiles

And also one that makes you jump

[whole horizon]

the only danger on that boss is getting targeted by Gust and getting knocked off

[inland zephyr]

Thanks! Since you asked what content - is there content where resto does go oom frequently?

Or at all, rather

[whole horizon]

but you can technically travel form leap back on

[neat lintel]

Yeah got knocked once

[whole horizon]

so its not even a danger if you know how to react to it

[neat lintel]

I need practice

[whole horizon]

definitely

[neat lintel]

At least the key is resi

[whole horizon]

the tornadoes are trivial at best and if you get hit by the boss projectile you are instantly made fun of

[neat lintel]

Yeah lol

[whole horizon]

that thing moves so slow you have to be totally zoned out to get hit by it

[thorn plover]

this is all i move all fight

[neat lintel]

That looks like a good spot

[thorn plover]

you want to stand with the group wherever they are

[whole horizon]

the tornadoes move in a uniform pattern so technically every spot is a good spot

[thorn plover]

kinda weird i had that clip ready to go

[whole horizon]

they all move at the same speed and the distance traveled changes for each concentric ring, so they never overlap at the same spots

there's no point in picking a physical spot to stand in, just make sure your group is in Efflo and practice moving side to side

[sweet needle]

Anyone know if they shadow fixed the LoS on the group bleed in sky reach? Was trying it yesterday and kept getting hit

[whole horizon]

ahhh

i didnt even know about that

i grouped with some clown who tanked the boss right at the gate and didnt move the entire time and we couldnt figure out why

feels like totally unnecessary tech that makes the fight harder, because if the tornados overlap on the gate its cringe

and its a dps loss to not move the boss

with melee dps

[dense lantern]

a classic

[whole horizon]

like i actually got hit for the first time on that boss because this idiot was doing some weird tech

i was livid

[dense lantern]

it's the same with half of the aoe LOS

It could be healed

But then people just stack in random places

LOS the healer half of the time

End up standing in puddles while los-ing

[thorn plover]

ToP mini boss LoS

so many deaths

[fierce isle]

Why do you want fluid form. What’s the reason?

[arctic geode]

Just to make it less cumbersome to go to moonkin form when dps'ing

[fervent mica]

you don't go into moonkin

[arctic geode]

trying out dps in kotg

[thorn plover]

you shouldnt go moonkin form anyways

[arctic geode]

oh

[fierce isle]

Going moonkin form is a DPS loss

[arctic geode]

why lmao

[fervent mica]

its basically even in damage and costs a gcd

[solid walrus]

Got a question about everbloom, I see peoples doing like 11-15% of their overall but mines doing like 7-8% am I doing something wrong?

[fierce isle]

You lose haste lycaras

[arctic geode]

that's counterintuitive

[mystic crater]

It’s more of a sidegrade than a loss

[fervent mica]

just not worth spending the talent point or a gcd to enter it

[mystic crater]

Basically yeah

That’s why they wanted fluid but it’s still not worth taking for it

[arctic geode]

well I'm not speding gcd if I have fluid form right?

well what's better then

[fierce isle]

That would be the talent point mentioned

[fervent mica]

yeahm you're spending a valuable t3 talent point

[arctic geode]

not really usinge ursine all that much either

lycara teaching?

inspiration I mean

[solid walrus]

Got a question about everbloom, I see peoples doing like 11-15% of their overall but mines doing like 7-8% am I doing something wrong?

[arctic geode]

lore of the grove?

[ornate pollen]

Who are you LBing?

[solid walrus]

Tanks usually

[ornate pollen]

well there you go

[solid walrus]

Am I supposed to be LBing dps/me?

[ornate pollen]

In raid, you always just about.

In dungeons, whoever needs healing

[sweet needle]

Whoever is about to get chunked.

[thorn plover]

yourself is a good play in dungeons now too

[rustic copper]

Lifebloom yourself with 2 rejuvs on yourself permanently in raid

[solid walrus]

Aight ty guys

And you want to let it run out right before recasting

[thorn plover]

no

never let it run out

[ornate pollen]

you should just about always SM it on CD

[solid walrus]

Kk it still does the last bloom splash even when reupping?

[rustic copper]

You get a bloom if you refresh it in the last 4.5 seconds

[thorn plover]

extend with VI (swiftmend talent) as much as possible, or refresh in pandemic (below 4.5s) if not

[fervent mica]

when you do it within the pandemic window

[solid walrus]

Gotcha

[sweet needle]

There’s a handful of LB pandemic warning addons too

[ornate pollen]

if you pandemic refresh at the start of a damage event and then SM->sotf, it's an extra guaranteed bloom which is nice

but don't wait

[rustic copper]

m+ needs another channel

[ornate pollen]

just close your eyes and bloom

[thorn plover]

100%

[smoky grove]

if i have a mythic weapon which emeblishment should i use?

[thorn plover]

arcano x2

[drowsy solar]

Am I weird in thinking visually they've improved KotG a lot? At least making it feel rewarding when you spawn a bunch of treants and a dryad during convoke?

[bright swift]

treants aren't tied to kotg

[ornate pollen]

still looking for a way to remove the new bloom visual

[drowsy solar]

I know but it gives me a false sense of "oh look, I have 5 out, that means 25% healing"

[tough portal]

https://giphy.com/gifs/gyu-ringed-tokkari-ooUjTFEYnaVPu1W1ia

[restive kettle]

What does/doesn't the wild charge ally jump trigger when used, I'm thinkuing about any items that will be between myself and the target. Or is it fairly case by case?

[neat lintel]

I am too slow to react anything, I give up lol

Do you just spam regrowth when people are soaking laser beams in skyreach?

Coz I couldn’t keep up

[thorn plover]

fully hot the 3 people soaking, lifebloom yourself and soak every time, spam regrowth, use ironbark

use convoke if no one has personals

[sudden rover]

do I still get a myth-track loot if I use my 2 voidcores thingy on a +2 key?

[thorn plover]

ideally you rotate a personal on 1 person through each soak

[thorn plover]

no

[sudden rover]

what is the minimum key for it?

[thorn plover]

you get loot equal to the vault you would get

+10

[sudden rover]

oh ok ty

[gaunt willow]

Hey - What’s the addon telling you on your screen aoe healer stuff coming up?

[slim cypress]

is lb pandemic window at 5 or 4 seconds?

[fervent mica]

4.5

[slim cypress]

is that sarcasm lol

[fervent mica]

no

[grand herald]

it is 30% of the buff duration

[slim cypress]

okay perfect thanks, i thought it was 5 but ill set it to 4

appreciate it

[grizzled seal]

pandemic is 30% of base duration

30% of 15 is 4.5

[thorn plover]

thats just dbm (bigwigs does the same thing)

[gaunt willow]

hmm 😄

my bigwigs doesn't do that

need to investigate

[thorn plover]

maybe dbm is better

i switched early on this season and havent gone back

[cosmic fulcrum]

does wild growth still choose 7 lowest health targets? and does the sotf + everbloom interaction work like essence font where every proc of 6 players can be different

[grand herald]

WG is still a smart heal yeah

[cosmic fulcrum]

tyty

[visual rapids]

any way to track Call of the Elder Druid 1minCD?

[thorn plover]

you can do it with arcui, otherwise just look at your debuffs

[neat lintel]

oky, thanks

[visual rapids]

ty

[rugged lodge]

Can you share your DBM profile? 🙂

[thorn plover]

dbm has profiles?

i just installed it

i didnt change anything besides bar location

[supple seal]

That clip makes me want to swap to dbm lol

[rugged lodge]

same, thats why I was wondering about the profile lol

gonna try it out

[vapid saddle]

is macroing NS with convoke still a thing

[grand herald]

no

[vapid saddle]

figured ty

[cursive pagoda]

did nulleus let me solo him at 220 ilvl, felt so easy on resto

but yeah lifebloom with 2 rejuvs=immortal

symbiotic relationship did a lot which was interesting to me

[vestal lotus]

boys - i saw a reddit post saying druids are doing mroe dmg than the others healers in m+ since the patch??

[grand herald]

we can pad large pulls pretty well

but the build to do it is kinda troll

[vestal lotus]

ah

[abstract cape]

Can someone give me some advice on how to get my everbloom to heal more? its often just my 2nd or 3rd heal 🙁

I see the top players having everbloom as their top spell by idk how much

[polar lichen]

probably easier with a log

[icy delta]

is there a addon that warns me of incoming AOE damage so i can ramp ump before?

[thorn plover]

lifebloom self, 2x rejuv yourself, swiftmend yourself on cd

not much more to it than that

[surreal frost]

why does my reju sometimes become like this?

[fervent mica]

sotf

[thorn plover]

soul of the forest

[abstract cape]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WwKz3cVFLtjypGQD?fight=29&type=healing

log from our current prog on mythic lightbound vanguard

[fervent mica]

lifebloom uptime needs help

[thorn plover]

your lifebloom uptime at 70% doesnt help, should be at 100%, and you arent pressing swiftmend enough

your swiftmend cpm is 3.1, should be close to 5

[cursive pagoda]

does refreshing LB reset the stacks

[fervent mica]

no

[cursive pagoda]

only target swapping it?

[fervent mica]

yeah

[abstract cape]

So more lifebloom + more swiftmend?

[cursive pagoda]

i see, ty!

[thorn plover]

Yes. You should also work on pushing regrowth more

[cursive pagoda]

probably to incentivize people to leave it on the tank i guess

[thorn plover]

The stacks don't mean much

[fervent mica]

any time theres a gap on you with these you're losing some of the mastery buffs for your everbloom

[polar lichen]

and also just photosynth procs right?

[fervent mica]

yeah

[abstract cape]

okay ill try to work on it

[fervent mica]

regrowth too, but that just becomes auto with lifebloom uptime

[abstract cape]

also i always should proc sotf with rejuv i assume?

consume*

[polar lichen]

does the healing received buff from forestwalk apply to the healing that everbloom spreads to other targets?

[fervent mica]

yeah

theres also another 4% talent in the class tree and one in WS

[abstract cape]

hm okay.

[polar lichen]

im starting to see the "keep lifebloom on self in m+" angle i guess

[abstract cape]

thanks for the help :3

[true ocean]

which m+ builds should I follow, the one from wowhead or from Archon?

[fervent mica]

never archon

[urban bone]

Wowhead for sure

[true ocean]

aight, thanks

[proud glacier]

Sry working. It's like 3% healing per point in TV. Nice for parsing, but tree gives me more throughput between convokes that I really need. My group is progging and we don't coordinate cooldowns. I'm also majority of the healing

[zealous hill]

Hey guys, in the higher keys do you keep symb relo on tank or dps squishy mostly

[oak garnet]

Everbloom is never my top heal

It's usually rg in healing intensive keys or rejuv in more chill keys

[fervent mica]

raid

[oak garnet]

Even in raid I feel like everbloom is rarely first

[cursive pagoda]

yeah it seems like people are always not standing close to tank

[fervent mica]

paladins specifically, was where they were looking

[proud glacier]

I also get 2% from reforest bonuses not including extra regrowths

[oak garnet]

Ah

[fervent mica]

it craaaanks on that fight

[cursive pagoda]

so they arent in the efflorescence and the lifebloom aoe

[fervent mica]

it wasn't top for me... but very high

[cursive pagoda]

in a key if youre playing with all ranged dps, do you want to lifebloom yourself?

[fervent mica]

whoever needs it, really

[cursive pagoda]

tanks still take so much more damage so i guess its probably still good on them

[abstract cape]

just asked cuz on the top log on paladins mythic on warcraftlogs everbloom is the top heal of the druid

by quite a bit

so i thought, its supposed to be like that

[cursive pagoda]

feel like it can be annoying when your team isnt getting the splash or eff aoe

[fervent mica]

i feasted on absorbs with reg... probably could've gotten more overall if i was spreading more.

[abstract cape]

how do you mean?

[waxen ingot]

Everbloom just heals absorms

absorbs very well

since u get full value every proc

nothing much to it

it shouldnt be top heal every fight

but that one is really good for it

[abstract cape]

ah okay.

^^

[fervent mica]

nb stacking on the 5 absorbs is also big between them

[lilac tide]

Is our BIS weapon a 2 hand or 1 hand? I'm confused what to bonus roll on.

[fickle pecan]

Is it worth downgrading an item to lower track if it has leech on it?

[waxen ingot]

No differance between 2h and 1h

[fervent mica]

no, but sim it on qelive

[fervent mica]

2h better early since less crests

[fickle pecan]

Cool ty

[lilac tide]

so if I have crafted a 2 hand, I just keep it unless I kill Beloren on mythic?

[fervent mica]

there are 3 staves from m+ that would be better

[waxen ingot]

You swap it with 2h satff

or 1h + off hand

w/e u get first

[pastel dragon]

This is actually a lot of fun in M+, haven't played it in higher than a 13 though

[lilac tide]

Ok I simmed on QE and it doesn't show me any weapon as upgrade but maybe that's cause the embellishment is on weapon rn

[waxen ingot]

very minor upgrade

[lilac tide]

ok thanks!

[waxen ingot]

My m+ tank deleted the game cause i got a mythic gaze from our mage and not him

"i am never tanking for you ever again, giving trinkets to healers over tanks"

[fervent mica]

difference between your last pull on left vs my kill on right. your everbloom is quite low... try to time it to go off when the absorb comes out

[waxen ingot]

no

their everbloom is low

cause they have 70% lifebloom uptime

and 3.0 swiftmend cpm

[abstract cape]

Will try to increase my lifebloom uptime for next raid.

[fervent mica]

yeah, we went over that... just trying to add extra things to work on

[sudden rover]

I have almost same build in +15s, it works fine if your 4 mates play well

[thorn plover]

If you're having trouble remembering it, LifebloomAlert has helped quite a few people with it

[sudden rover]

I've seen Lairas do it in +20s too

[fervent mica]

theres just very few hits during absorbs

[waxen ingot]

Ignore everything if lifebloom is not up

[fervent mica]

also

[abstract cape]

i do have some trouble there. not sure how to track it better.

[thorn plover]

Try LifebloomAlert

[undone vapor]

Hi, reading the pins that all guides have been updated, is icyveins & wowhead our main source for a guide? I’m wondering if the buffs to spell damage changed much for resto druid

[fervent mica]

yup

[undone vapor]

👍

[thorn plover]

Also if you just swiftmend your LB target on cooldown, you will hardly ever have to cast it

[abstract cape]

how do i increase this?

just use it more often?

[fervent mica]

yeah

[abstract cape]

okay.

[thorn plover]

Use it every time it's available

[fervent mica]

basically on cd

[thorn plover]

Don't hold it

[abstract cape]

okay.

[weary moss]

I went from 70-80% to 99%+ using your alert addon

[thorn plover]

Always on your lifebloom target

[fervent mica]

you can macro it in raid

[abstract cape]

i just dld the lifebloom now.

will try it on tomorrows raid, thanks guys.

[undone vapor]

I’m going to download this now thanks

[thorn plover]

🐐

[fervent mica]

my lifebloom/sm in raid is only on self or focus if i have one... it really helped me not having to think about it. just muscle memory

[peak charm]

my question is if we are swiftmending on CD our LB target wont that mean were getting less blooms from blooming frenzy ? Could it be worth getting Pros in raid to avoid that ?

[hardy canopy]

how does that mean you're getting less blooms

[vestal lotus]

hey I'm going M Averzian and the void marked targets arent apearing on dander frames

[grand herald]

you lost out on 1 bloom every 15 seconds by extending LB, but you perma keep max hots on your LB target, saving GCDs, keeping abundance high, and keeping photo running

[vestal lotus]

any ideas?

[waxen ingot]

The last bloom from lb refresh is so meaningless

[fervent mica]

almost all of your blooms come from photo and apex

[peak charm]

is it really though ?

[grand herald]

its 1 bloom every 15 seconds

[waxen ingot]

everybloom is final bloom

[grand herald]

versus all the blooms from photo and sm casts

[peak charm]

So tooltip is wrong?

[fervent mica]

no

[grand herald]

there is only 1 bloom

[waxen ingot]

btw i cant belive i was arguing with you about a build

and now u r asking this

[peak charm]

[grand herald]

people dont even know what their spells/talents do

is crazy

[fervent mica]

with no talents lifebloom only blooms at the end. this is the final bloom. talents and abilities trigger that bloom

[peak charm]

Im cool with yall teaching me a few things so i can parse higher

[pulsar kettle]

[waxen ingot]

parsing is taking non fatal dmg on repeat and playing with bad healers

[ornate pollen]

damage taken is the real meter

[waxen ingot]

its really the real prog of the raid for me

learning what can hit me

without killing me

[sudden rover]

sir did you really put the gaze trinket as profile picture

[fervent mica]

i stopped dodging hammers on paladins. looking for them just made me miss other things that were actually dangerous

[pastel dragon]

im looking for a way to track when I can proc call of the elder druid again, in the CD manager i can track while its active but not sure how to track ther 45 sec CD

[sudden rover]

look at debuff

when you don't have it, use starsurge

[lyric surge]

I did it with a custom bar in arcui

Have it trigger when you get the elder druid buff

[sudden rover]

it's insane the amount of people asking for this, every time i briefly look at this chat ppl are asking about tracking elder druid

just look at your debuff what the fk

[pastel dragon]

ah ok ill check that out, i mean sure i CAN see my debuffs but its just not as elegant ya know?

[lyric surge]

Why does it piss you off that much?

[thorn plover]

people dont search, ive mentioned tracking it with arcui like 8 times

lol

[sudden rover]

i could not care less, just funny to point out

[pastel dragon]

yah admittedly i do tend to not search so you got me there

[thorn plover]

its ok, no one does

the function may as well not exist

[hard loom]

Morning guys, how do I track call of the elder druid debuff

[pulsar kettle]

😭

[hard loom]

LOL im just fucking with you, holy shit

[plush tide]

lmao

[pulsar kettle]

save me from the doc nonsense i beg

[plush tide]

should make a pinned post and then just reply "read the pins"

[thorn plover]

that doesnt work either

trust

[hard loom]

No one reads pins though

[weak rune]

Is there a good place to go and look for tips on how to heal specific dungeons? I'm off speccing and i've been fine up to like 15ish mostly just due to my gear i think but starting to struggle above that, mostly in the instances where there are a lot of things to dispell and spot heal (example off the top of my head, the curse + 2 dots in packs in Pit)

For dps/tank i'd just go view logs but i kinda dunno what resources are good for healers for that

[chilly dawn]

Does killing Beloren open Alleria loots in the Weekly vault?

(even if Alleria is not dead on that reset)

[thorn plover]

no

[pastel dragon]

insta dispel one target, put LB on the 2nd and proc apex to top them quick to stabalize

[drowsy solar]

If you've ever killed Crown that loot is in your pool though for that difficulty

[weak rune]

oh you shift LB off the tank? i've been perma LB on tank

[pastel dragon]

in M+ im shifting LB a LOT as needed

[drowsy solar]

Lb is still mastery stacks too at the cost of a gcd

[pastel dragon]

its a mega powerful ST burst heal

[sudden rover]

you absolutely have to once keys are high enough

[loud mango]

You should be tracking targeted spells too so you can do it nice and early

[weak rune]

so you'll LB -> swiftmend -> regrowth the other target to top them?

[thorn plover]

watch jb's +21 vod yesterday and say that lol

perma self lb

[weak rune]

i am tracking targeted spells, actually looking at that shit is another matter 😄

[sudden rover]

no wa

way

what keys?

[thorn plover]

pit, mgt

[pastel dragon]

yah but like could the players hes with also have something to do with it

[thorn plover]

maybe more thats all i watched

[sudden rover]

well damn

[thorn plover]

self lb is crazy good since patch

swapping it has much less value now than it did before

[pastel dragon]

i do self LB in raid, so i could try to do it more in dungeons as well

but ive found i like the value of swapping it in some cases

[weak rune]

Also should I be spending soul on rejuv or regrowth by default? I was doing rejuv mostly before but have started regrowth more as damage has gone up

[thorn plover]

rejuv almost always

unless you have multiple people needing big heal

even pushing rejuv does big group heal with apex proc

[cursive pagoda]

at what level of key do you find yourself actually pressing regrowth a lot?

feel like the hots do so much in easier content to where you rarely regrowth

[thorn plover]

you can rejuv only til like 12s tbh

maybe higher

[weak rune]

im personally talking 16/17s where im finding myself pressin regrowth a lot more than i was

[thorn plover]

^

[cursive pagoda]

thats wild

[vestal lotus]

is everbloom metta for raid now?

[thorn plover]

yes

[ocean fjord]

dramatically so

[vestal lotus]

fml im behind the curve damnit

[lament river]

In raids my most lifebloom ourself atm ?

[ocean fjord]

yes

you can steer the efflo and lifebloom procs easier

[sudden rover]

crazy shit, he does not move lifebloom from him haha what a guy

also he's playing with old efflo

[tough portal]

Oh based as hell

Manual efflo >>>>>

[sudden rover]

nah one less keybind me happy

[pastel dragon]

link the the video/build?

[sudden rover]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2756053844

[pastel dragon]

thank you

[weak rune]

starfire god lol

[pastel dragon]

first time trying it was breaking 100k on opening pulls with lust, it feels good

[loud mango]

That's it?

Are you not potting?

[whole horizon]

@bright swift @grizzled seal Tranquil Mind vs Imp Regrowth? i've seen you each try out both. i'm curious what the difference in overall is + the reasoning for swapping. atp it seems like every mythic kill is running imp regrowth.

[bright swift]

imp growth

[cursive pagoda]

anyone here that uses danders frames? wondering if there are any important settings or configs i should be using

[bright swift]

you don't always have 12 abundance stacks

[weak rune]

I wanna try that but im still trying to learn to heal properly without adding in the "complex" rotation of using dream xD

[sudden rover]

on the occasional hard packs he will put bloom on tank but yeah 95% of the run lifebloom was on him, crazy

[drowsy solar]

Have people come around on Caster damage or is it still hated

[cursive pagoda]

rn i just have it show when theres a dispellable debuff, also have something showing each hot when active

[grizzled seal]

TM does nothing

[whole horizon]

seems that way, yeah

but both talents gain value at the same time

[tough portal]

I dont think whether it's weak or strong makes people like or dislike it any differently

I'm back to catweaving and doing less damage, fuck it

There are people playing it while disliking it

And people that like it

[fervent mica]

cat prio just feels better to me /-:

[pastel dragon]

it feels different right now which i dont mind, esspecially playing with DoC

[signal owl]

Torty as CEO of resto druids is it true NS no longer buffs convoke regros

[thorn plover]

really hoping we go back to that eventually

[thorn plover]

its been true for over 2 weeks

[fervent mica]

go back to it now

i did... and just took a point in starfire to spam in aoe

[signal owl]

sorry im new to druid :L

[thorn plover]

all good, just letting you know lol

[glossy onyx]

Why are switching to wildstalker for raids?

[thorn plover]

big self lifeblooms

[minor jetty]

Anyone know with dander frames how to track brew stagger?

[thorn plover]

you can see the debuff, thats it

[glossy onyx]

Good logs to look at for this?

[granite sparrow]

sorry been out for a couple days don't wanna make ya'll repeat stuff, could someone link a good guide on the starfire healing build or wtv everyone is talking about?

[fervent mica]

wowhead

[tough portal]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?metric=hps&class=Druid&spec=Restoration

[thorn plover]

look at vrocas logs probably good

idk

any decent rdruid log since 12.0.5

[glossy onyx]

Thank you both

[granite sparrow]

i went there earlier and the m+ build doesn't use those talents

[thorn plover]

if youre looking for doc build, theres no guide

meme build

the m+ build definitely takes starfire tho

[granite sparrow]

the normal stafire ye i've been using that one but tought this "meme" build would be the best lmao

[thorn plover]

its good damage, for a big loss in healing

[granite sparrow]

after seeing jdot on 20's

[tough portal]

It's not some rocket science secret, just take Call and DOC if you want more damage

[pastel dragon]

idk i think its a bit less than memey but its real neat

[tough portal]

If you saw JB playing it you saw his build then?!

[thorn plover]

he talked about it on his stream yesterday about how pugs shouldnt be using it, its a big loss in healing, and he sometimes gets heal checked between coted CD's

[loud mango]

Can start with the dorki video for a little break down

[sudden rover]

doc is not a meme build lol, druids are timing 20/21s with it

[granite sparrow]

wdym, seeing the talents isn't a "guide" lol

[tough portal]

But what type of guide do you think it requires?

It's Starfire spam

[thorn plover]

as soon as the starfire bug gets fixed the doc thing probably dies anyway

[tough portal]

You have 1 buton and you press it

[granite sparrow]

fair enough, i'll let it saved for lower keys ig

[thorn plover]

see my comment above

[sudden rover]

yeah I agree

[waxen ingot]

Okay i didnt get shit all season

and today i got this

killed 4 bosses total

[sudden rover]

gz

[thorn plover]

me with my delve trinket

[spark river]

i finally swapped out my keepsake trinket for a 276 how

[thorn plover]

i got drums, so same thing

drums is like the 6th highest rated trinket on QE so im not that hurt

[spark river]

im getting all bis balance items

its actually cursed

[merry nexus]

on big enough packs, worth HoW in moonkin? or would that cuc the funnel?

[ornate pollen]

there is almost always a prio mob