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it's 95 hps
it sims better caue your old back is bad
and ur shit has leech
but i wouldnt take it
Your call on that one
fuck a whole 94hps
canโt miss that crazy upgrade
lmaooo
got that shoulder too
but mine have leech
and im thinking what nikosux said about playing with 2p
wat did he sayโฆ
i remember when nikosux was actually good
yeah yeah ๐
don't do that
you can ignore when he says shit like that
Nice for symbiotic healing. (10% of leech value, nice)
I have a lady moaning in my ear ADD SOON since the update on repeat
leech feeds into symb? that's wild
anyone know what addon that might me
i mean its also upgrade from hc to mythic
so its decent i guess
QE says its 800 hps
It's 250k damage for 1 gcd every 2 mins, I wouldnt even send the bite tbh, just cat -> hotw -> shift back out
It's also really nice for damage amps on bosses
Damn it :
But I already have the Ribon in Champion... And Hearth of wind in Mythic.
I know Aln is OP but not BIS on every guides.
What to do ?
Do you guys use it on CD or just bosses
Would you rather take Myth weapon (when I already have myth offhand), both with shitty stats, or myth Bifurcation Band ? ๐ฎ
M+ wise
Sometimes on CD sometimes holding for a boss or some big miniboss that needs to die
is apex talents bugged or just doing insane healing?
sims say anything?
Ah I just gotta get a feel for it then
It isn't bugged. They just turbo buffed it
i just saw now Wildstalker is best for raid? What did i missed and why are this best now?
anyone :)
thank you guys, ill read there
have you tried individually turning off/on addons because I've never heard of this before
bugsac? maybe??
Apex talent was the new thing in Midnight, so I'm happy to see that we are finally getting good numbers from apex talents ๐๐ผ
Bug sack was spamming me today
not using it in raid was very sad so I'm glad they buffed it
Fatality, Fatality, Fatality
new patch and all that, constant bugs is the usual 
acting like we werenโt before ๐ญ
Exactly my point aswell ๐
pad dmg from thrash on big pulls mainly
i mean not pad but like aoe:D
still or smth new?
forr resto only?
Does it make sense to pick the 1/6 272 weapon?
explain
flip a coin if head then yes
its aoe cleave is the moonkins aoe value instead of restos
so it cleaves for 70% of the MT or some shit
The cleave percentage is too high because we got the moonkin buff, and we can get to 5 stacks of the kotg talent in one regrowth due to it counting natures bounty
That's the short version since I'm in bed
yeah idk what to take
You have to show your whole inventory tbh @smoky sail
Why does danders frames trigget a TTS since the ne wupdate
shouldnt we always go boomie form then
how do you even fix that
I don't think we do, Dander does ๐
You lose haste from lycara
is the haste better?
The faq explains this actually. I don't like typing a lot on phone
Also, sorry I asked this question yesterday and I think it got lost in the mix, is there any significant difference in our playstyle now compared to before the .5 patch?
Is wildstalker with the changed apex talent thehighest hps build for raid atm?
In M+ specifically
It's not better but it's close and you save a talent point
@smoky sail take the mythic gaze 100%
the new changes to the everbloom, how much of a change is that?
what addon shows char like this?
yes
Ty
What's the reason for going away from Reforestation now and getting TV instead?
Thank you for the explanation โค๏ธโค๏ธ
Yer
Can anyone help me with the vault choice? I'm thinking on either taking the offhand and crafting a 1h (I currently have a crafted 2h), or maybe the shoulders and catalyze
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With playing the apex talent should I swiftmend the lifebloom target on CD or use it on other targets with a few hots and manually refresh lifebloom when its in pandemic window for the bloom? Or does it proc the expiration/refresh bloom with swiftmend on cd aswell? Thanks
you still tagret self
with both
What
You want self healing to be buffed and u dont really care for the bloom
if you have to refresh
you wait 4.5 sec
but
SW > Pandemic
we need photo
photo went from a 2% talent to a 15% one
good shit blizz
is there any updated guide?
Ye ok thought so, I just send swiftmend on CD on myself with all hots up to extend ty @waxen ingot
wowhead is updated
so bonus roll is indeed bugged
i got the same npx boots twice
both in +10
thats great ๐
Oof
how do we get the bonus rolls tho
Best to wait for rolling now since we got info about duplicates
ur welcome
did one of them have avoidance / speed?
nope
lol
get fucked indeed
that is get fucked moment
I don't understand why self heals matter if full health? (My b if dumb question)
There are no dumb question in here
Everbloom splashes raw healing, any healing amp on LB target is buffing Everbloom even if it means more overhealing on the LB target
You buff LB heal with self heal
and that buffed heal goes on other people
so if you have 5 mastery stacks + symbioting bloom
BIG heal
and u force self symbiotic
Well shit I've been playing wrong this whole time ty
this for raid specifically or in plus as well?
So, keep LB on self and cast SM on me for splash aoe heals?
Mplus u wanna rotate lifebloom depending on dmg events
do we now play in raid with apex?
yes
wait
Implant was a lready on the guides' build when I looked
It's been much better all xpac
god i got so fucked from bonus rolls
fair enough ,I never noticed it LMAO
it was said on wowhead
you have to do the voidcore quest first to get bonus rolls?
๐
its only bugged for m+?
yup - bountiful delves, lfr, m+ iirc all award
yep
well m+ is the only place you can bonus roll i think right now multiple times, like there wouldnt be data for raid bc of the amount of tokens needed
fixed it, used brain (its late)
i though you can only bonus roll items that you dont already have?
You don't get dupe protection if you have the items
only dupe protection when you roll for the items
u dont get dupe protection at all atm
make no sense but ok
yeah I know @white sentinel, explaining how the actual system works
blizz is aware of the dupe on bonus rolls
so if iam going for chimaerus mythic. I should also wait for a fix?
So we always want to splash with SM when the targetted LB has 2x reju and regrowth?
no you should be fine
There is nothing particularly new that you want to be doing
The guides have recommended VI and using it to extend Lifebloom + 2 Rejuvs the whole expansion
Hell, multiple expansions
For times when VI was played in raid anyways
Is it LB on self -> 2x reju + regrowth -> SM? Are we still popping SM on CD or we have to wait for LB to be down to 4.5 sec or less?
oh yeah everbloom is broken in pvp
Oh question. Is Pit of Saron still dealing with the funny bug of the final boss attacking at the beginning?
will we even swap LB on target which requires prio healing in case we dont play HB (in M+)?
Btw damn I manifested a weapon in vault
Hey everyone, i could really use some help with vault choice today. I have 2 trinkets on the myth track, however one of them is not on the tierlists i see. Is Echo of L'ura that bad?
Its with leech too
echo is v v bad

ayy gz on leech weapon 
wait we play wildstalker in raid aswell now wadafak is this blizzard
the funny
Can anyone help me with the vault choice? I'm thinking on either taking the offhand and crafting a 1h (I currently have a crafted 2h), or maybe the shoulders and catalyze
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whats the issue
it's the blooms, we're blooming it
my gods
lmfao
people see its 19% and think holy shit meanwhile we lost 5 talent points for that
it aint broken
30k hps looks quite low
it was heroic dream rift
it honestly looks way more balanced then i thought
there was nothing to heal
samesies
yeah, having to spend 5 points for this HPS makes me hope they won't nerf it :')
beautiful
so true lmao
maybe now I won't grey/green parse 
i had 22k hps higher on m chim than i've ever had before...
healing doesnt look crazy
i dont think we will
dmg doesnt look crazy
I'm shocked that brew still hasn't been nerfed (and I hope it stays that way)
Im shocked frost dk didnt get 40% buff
which is not crazy
Praying for spinning menace (monk) to ger more nerfed
QELive says get the bifurcaton band, im not sure about the crescendo trinket, i have the band already heroic maxed out with avoidance
we are just balanced fine to be on the top end now
with 45% overheal...
Is there a good way to track if your call of the elder druid procs is ready besides looking at your debuffs on raid frames?
we are just on pair with the prior outliners now
ye exactly
we can be top hps on any fight probably now
but so can 3 other specs
What is this
Myth Shoulder or Trinket idk, i have - Locus Walker Heroic and Gaze Champion ๐ซ
prior this patch it was not possible for most fights
Which boss
all of them
check sims but I'd assume trinket?
maybe, idk
it depends
I feel like optimal builds will take/do less damage maybe for us plebians?
Qe calls Shoulder idk
isnt dorki a bear druid
W8 dorki is healing now?
hes playing resto atm
how much of a gap is there in the HPS
why is he memeing
3.5k as both bear and resto rn
I was shocked too when i tuned in
3.5 is just playing the game
o.o
What am I looking at
dorki's home cooked dream of cenarious build
yeah he cooked a build thats been known for 4 years
Everbloom doing actually good healing
Big cook
let him cook
Did he also cook up taking convoke here? Big if true
he cooked even a lil convoke
believe it or not
I felt like I was slamming in heroic clear idk about keys yet im waiting for bonus to be fixed
I think Im coining lura now
Got final grade with leech in vault so I thiiiink lura is good idea
Why
Neck ring angle
We wont do farm so that cuts ideas for me, in nexus realisticly I want only ring rn
I think I will have 90 crests leftover after upping weapon ๐ค Haven't picked it yet
Hi all. Just got Mythic track weapon (haste and mastery) Final grade.
I don't know if anyone knows but do the crafted weapons go as high as the myth track with the voidforge? That being said, are myth track weapons just as good or better than crafted ones ?
what are you thinking of coining @thorn whale
better
if our vault is completely shit, does it make more sense to get a socket, bonus roll or spark to craft a piece this week?
I would bonus roll peronsally idk whats better
idk thats another gamble
Thankyou. Do we know if they go as high as crafted wih the voidforge one ?
I know like 39 of the top 50 have crafted so I wasn't sure.
im happy with 3 goes at nexus point but thats just my current gear sitch
I took tier shoulders FWIW this week
Honestly i don't know
I've rerolled monk for the last 2 bosses so I'm mostly in monk mode
what is the build we should play this week? the one from wowhead raid wildstalker with apex?
lost braincells spamming sheilun
I'm sure there's a reason why most top 50 players crafted a weapon, GV, early in the season etc... Would we epxect them to change then ?
Yeah, they crafted it so they dont play with a hc one for weeks
i am dungeon sry cant write. But it was worth to craft wep back then
Eventually they will get mythic weapon, crafting weapon was optimal choice early on and rn many people dont have enough crests to items ratio to validate going weapon perhaps or didnt get any in GV
is this a good vault? ๐
lol holy shit
It would be very easy to take stare and bonus roll gaze during raid tonight
but bonus roll isn't guaranteed gaze
except I already have ribbon on hero track from crown
so gaze+ribbon would be amazing for prog tonight
With the patch changes, Savage Stalker will still be playable in Mythic dungeons.
chance is 1/3 when you already got ches token from Chim no?
?
I do not already have a myth chest tier piece
yeah but I do so I am correct with my assumption with the Bonus Roll?
no I think he can still drop token
I think it would be 1/4
I take gaze and bonus roll something else or risk waiting 3 more weeks for it
huh I dont understand, can you force the gaze with bonusroll?
Yes, after you get every other item from the boss via bonus roll, it becomes the only thing you can get
but you can only bonus roll it once per week and there are a lot of items from m+ that would be useful and I could get twice as much loot that way
hey, in wowhead bislist vaelgor final stare is still considered bis when the voidcore new part suggest Gaze of the Alnseer instead. little error or i don't understand something?
ah yes sorry exactly what I was thinking. So that means I can also get another chest token with bonus loot?
When my guild gets back to m crown prog. I should be hitting people with heal absorbs with lifebloom?
Rolling with the bonus roll crosses the item you get off the list, but if you already have the item outside of the bonus roll.. you are still able to obtain it until its marked off
when do parses usually fix themselves from patch day
wow thats very stupid, but thanks for clarifying
It's broken RN it doesn't cross it off the list at all
Yup I asked the same question earlier its dumb - OH I didn't know it was BROKEN atm sheesh
then I better do chim mythic now fast
Also wondering this
I'm not sure. I would assume it's included in the loot pool. Items you got outside of the bonus roll system affecting the loot pool would turn into the rich getting richer VERY quickly.
yeah thats ture, but for me who also got myth token from chim and I can get it again via Bonusloot is a very dumb mechanic in my opinion
If someone else already got a non BiS item as a loot drop, their chances of bonus rolling the BiS item would be higher than everyone else's. Even if that non BiS item was a transmog roll or wasted loot
RL lead is like I need the bonus roll to give me gaze gonna assign myself all the other gear instead of for people who need it
is this worth?
Exactly this. You've got to think like a degenerate and try to break systems
You will always have 60-80k overheal on yourself with the current build.
hell naw
why u wanto to have lifebloom on yourself?
You receive 24-44% bonusheal.
Does this make the cleaveycleavey everbloom stronger? ๐
from what?
Thankyou! I'll grab the mythic one then ๐
I assume so since we keep bloom and sm on us now
Several talents from class, hero and spec tree.
idk, just watching dorki rn, with bl pull hes just casting starfires, is it healing somehow or what ?
like ppl get toped from starfire
Ye it's a talent
dream of cenarius
I feel like his group is dying so much in smaller pulls tho
prob a troll spec
I kinda think so yea
What is he giving up for those 2 talents
Nature's Swiftness no longer buffs convoke regrowths right?
I was just playing doc in a 15 pit and it shocked me with how much healing it did. Each starfire casts was 40-50% of an hp bar
Can anyone help me with the vault choice? I'm thinking on either taking the offhand and crafting a 1h (I currently have a crafted 2h), or maybe the shoulders and catalyze
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I think heโs been streaming for so long now heโs just yoloing it
dont see any that has bonus when i put in on myself over a tank
hey guys does that changes this patch for m+ ?
Wait really
with starfire giving the full damage to every enemy this makes sense
Read about it yday on discord, not 100 % sure tho
it's like 25k-30k per enemy hit right? So that x7 or so enemies is around 105k healing, and maybe more with blooms on a player? per cast of starfire
yeah its fixed
doc is a meme
Ns also use to work with og before they fixed that too
Is this a good place for vault advice? ;p
yes
is there a 12.0.5 talent guide somewhere I cant see
ty
Okay so I donโt need to ns pre convoke, thatโs probably a good change
how do i unlock the bonus roll from the vault
I have two options:
A. Take myth neck from WRS which is haste vers
B. Take myth shoulders
QE tells me neck is a bit better but I don't think its BiS so I decided to ask xD
cause the vault for me is cosmetic this expansion
I got 3 voidcores. Does it make sense to use 2 for mythic chim and then Nexus one because i still need finger and mythic chest + also weapon is nice ?
I wouldnโt use any of those until Blizz fixed the bug.
but the bug is only for the 2. roll on the same Boss/Dungeon or not?
It is but what if you get a bricked item and it isn't taken out of the pool for next week
true yes
I'm fucked right?
Isn't those cuffs bis
Why, socket is good sir
Can anyone help me with the vault choice? I'm thinking on either taking the offhand and crafting a 1h (I currently have a crafted 2h), or maybe the shoulders and catalyze
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cuffs bis
Are they worth? I could craft cuff next week. Not sure if socket is better
I also need help with the vautl choice ๐
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Do we have a way of telling the hps difference in raid between keeper and wildstalker yet?
Donโt you wanna craft cuffs and Cloak? As they give the least stats
Id like to know what degree of troll it would be if i went keeper instead of ws
It's best in slot
those wrist
are they with socket? its no brain
A extra reroll could be better but I don't know much
No, they are not. But it looks like I will take cuffs then
Hmm should i take boots and cata them? Ore should i get a coin i can use in nexus for bigger upgrades?
yeahh its coin angle
cata boots are like crit/haste i think
I took m+ tier from vault but I think I should've taken a coin
you should take a socket over a coin
why?
I was talking to him
if you have crests to spend you can take coin
myth gear is useless if you have no myth crests
yeah true
When we thinking they will uncap
noooo lol
4 weeks
.7 is not 4 weeks..
what
O I thought we had another 6 months in this season
I thought 4 weeks was ilvl increase which coincided with .7
Can anyone advise on this?
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where will u guys use ur rerolls?
doubt that is reletaed to .7
does it make sense to start going for gaze, or reroll m+ for quick ilvl?
Can anyone explain as to why myth weapon is better than crafted when they both upgrade to same IL with voidforge (when its not bugged) Just confused
they dont
Craft is 3 ilvl lower I think right?
Oh google AI is wrong ๐
I thought it wouldn't be but google AI says it did ๐
blizzard would never allow such tomfoolery
on crown this shit seems broken
nothing to see here kekw. yes its cranking on that fight lol
If it follows the same pattern it will be June 30th
i have a tough decision to make guys heroic gaze of myth set chest
100% gaze
if u dont go for reroll
Never trust google ai lol. It doesnt differ between people concept of truth and actual truth
wym if i dont go reroll
yes
Same as the Nexus one too right?
Ty.
corespark is the nexus one
Is gaze worth it for most of us that will never get it on mythic (other than boost)
is the dam real now if we do a full damage caster build in m+?
does the vault roll count to the season maximum or no
nope
if u spent ur reroll tokens for dreamrift, u can get gaze on myth track. so it would be dumb to get hero gaze in vault if u go for myth one
GL getting into a group who hasn't done it hahaha ๐
thats pretty borkened
Crazy Broken
Can anyone help me with the vault choice? I'm thinking on either taking the offhand and crafting a 1h (I currently have a crafted 2h), or maybe the shoulders and catalyze
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rerolls count for vault?
Is it only 4 bonus rolls for Dream? So it'd be 4 total to guarantee it?
Itโs good but not Broken
no, but then u wouldve waste a week
anyone got a DOC build cooked up?
when does parses go live?
Hey guys, rerolls come from the voidcore quest?
so, nature's swiftness no more buffing convoke ?
What
yes

Thanks
Do we use the 294 upgrade on crafter item weapon or Corespark Multitool staff
4
here you go
ah sure
You get the bonus roll stuff today, but ilvl upgrade stuff is gated
You have time to think about it, but I would say upgrade myth track not crafted
Is this chest angle? Is the nexus point one that good that it matters to pick over it? I'm probably never going to reach mythic drakes so im probably dumping extra rolls on Nexus Point, that means I would get the chest on there eventually.
you have a belt?
I have hero belt
Thatโs haste/mast belt no?
no it's high haste crit
Im actually happy they postponed that il increase. It will give them some time to balance the outliers in m+. IF they would all gain max il today and they nerf classes key pushing could be over for the season..
but it's the best belt we got
It simmed lower then chest but didnt know that it was the best one
Correct
Good thing I asked auuu
yup
so you will get a chest
feels good, i feel very geared
How is the new apex in m+?
broken
Broken good or broken bugged bad lol
Going by wowhead we are wildstaker + apex in both m+ and raid now?
broken good
im gonna terror a pug with dorki build
NS is not buffing all regrowths during convoke anymore. That got fixed ~1 week ago.
dorki build (pick doc )
is there any reason why using bonus roll on nexus would be better than chim mythic?
it was doing a lot better than I expected but
you'll still not see me pick that shit
Let the pug tank die because of missing tankheals.
yea
So i don't need to craft a weapon, as have mythic. What else would I craft ? Some have don waist, wrists and back.
thats how we roll at 10am
man this guy cooked some good shit
But what about high mastery belt from saldahaar?
not smart to troll a key that gives me io but I wanna have some fun
(they wont have it)
Still same build m+ right?
what
how is that better
Generally boots and waist are good slots to craft.
If you donโt raid mythic endbosses, neck is a good craft.
You can also craft a cloak (but that gives low stats)
idk i checked bis on wowhead but to be fair i have 37% mastery so its better to get haste belt
Thankyou. No, don't raid mythic at all.
Still going for regular m+ build right?
So do we need to line up a swiftmend SOTF now to force the bloom healing on aoe dmg in raid?
in m+ do we hotw in moonkin now?
2x items instead of 1, having mythic gaze already, if you dont but can kill it mythic weekly its a pretty decent chance to get it in vault if you only kill chim and the first boss in voidspire
no he played doc
not saying its better than using it on mythic gaze
Broken op?
no
I would say play regular m+ build
So we still play normal m+
Doc is a weekly +10 in 285 ilvl talent
Ye play normal
Dorki is playing it in 18s right now (he let his team die multiple times)
If you dgaf about healing you pick doc
What build?
Because it does less healing on hard to heal parts
so the apex talents changed a little heard it was a buff, but I've just started resto druid and clearly must have been playing wrong. i used to kinda just keep lifebloom on myself as it was easy to keep up perma and when it got low id refresh it. and then i ran double swift mend and constantly proc'd the 4th rank apex talent thing, they changed that and the healing feels a bit off, i keep hearing perma keep your lifebloom target full hot'd to spash healing ?
i play +16/17 as kotg boom. super fun.
M+ mains innit
Sadge to use a coin in nexus and get staff wich i got :S

is that just for when it falls off or is about to or like ? im missing something about it
Why are you coining as a caster spec then
That's on you bro
something like this
Hey guys,
Im 277 ilvl, but still rocking a vetera 250ilvl neck.
Should i craft the 285ilvl neck?
does symbiotic relationship count as hot or direct healing ?
pvp neck?
get the pvp neck
Anyone knows about an addon that screams at me when lifebloom needs to be reapplied? I tend to forget it in raids
Neither
just go afk the bot bg for an hour or something
Does anyone know if thoise coins have a cap? Are we just going to be insta gearing alts in one month time?
LifebloomAlert
Addon?
What build is everyone using for raiding now with lifeblood being buffes
lifeblood
Good shit love you โค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธโค๏ธ
Anyone experience lifebloom alots "vocal" and CMS vocals not so loud after patch?
yeah
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Cheers
I think this began to work again after this patch
@bright swift do I have to go into cat form now when raid healing
play root network not resilient
Which one friend? Could you link it please?
are you trolling or
Does the SOTF blooming frenzy count towards the split healing to allies?
no I have no idea what im doing
it changed to wildstalker
so I didnt know if I actually have to press dps buttons or what
You are going to find it very difficult to cast healing spells while staying in cat form
thats now what I meant....
Is that the one awarded by the 4 part blue quest in silvermoon?
did the "queueing swiftmend during regrowth cast makes that regrowth consume sotf" bug come back after being gone for weeks or am i losing it
You asked about raid healing in cat form
Yes
why the hell would you go cat in raid
Im not at my pc now. Can that be done in one sitting now?
I think so yeah
hey chimp
I think this would help people confused about whether to go cat form in order to heal
yep, its very silent
I CANT ESCAPE AHHHH
We dont play reforastation in raid anymore?
Any reason why we're going for Wildstalker in wowhead for raiding?
I meant to say 'Hey Guys! Do I have to use Cat Form to DPS at all when Raid Healing?'
I saw we are wildstalker now
I have not played rdruid this tier
yes what does that have to do with cat
Even if you do a LOT of DPS for a resto druid, your time is better spent healing
no one understands me
wildstalker has nothing to do with cat form
Fuuuuuck
no
as cat
dont worry about it
okay
Who the fuck cares
thank you phased
lb and several hots are up
i'm wondering if using bonus rolls is completely stupid atm or if the chance for it to bug is small ๐
where is my name
thank god nance isnt here to read this
In raid your damage is so insignificant that trying to do more of it outside of master shapeshifter mana regen is a waste of your time and potential
Need some help here. I already have heart of the wind heroic. Should I go for the Mythic gloves + catalyst? or the trinket
So the new apex splits healing when it blooms right?
And it blooms when it expires or you refresh it in pandemic window
It also goes into a bloom frenzy when you consume soul of the forest
So to take advantage of the new apex, are we focusing on only refreshing in pandemic window and also consuming soul of the forest just as AOE hits?
Can crafted items be convertes to Tier pieces? (I remember this wasnt possible back in the day)
hi! is there a web to see the best talents for mytics?
which slightly interferes with when we want to do this too
I don't have the spare talent points to take that anymore
Unless I ditch the mana one
Are you having mana issues?
Only long mythic fights
It also blooms from photosynthesis
๐
dont think this hard about it, just use sotf as normal there is always some healing to catch
on most bosses
Im mainly thinking we need to consume soul now at the start of a spend phase
Ie swiftmend just before AOE hits, then spam regrowth
it's still very useful for getting lots of rejuvs out before the big dam comes
Fair enough
If you don't use swiftmend on cd your hps will suck
does that mean in any scenerio we wanna hold refreshing our buff to get the healing on healing checks ? or is that no viable and globals are elsehwere ?
Every 1 sec you miss is hps lost
No, you guys are trying to minmax useless shit
Will try that tonight then, no delaying for bloom forenzy
Fellas, what's the new raid talents to take?
Keep 2 rejuvs on lifebloom
getting 3 rejuvs out for the price of 1 is yummy yummy and that will feed into guaranteed crit free regrowths
Can anyone help me understand why Gaze might have been simming lower for me last week compared to this week ?
Iโm running HC drums, HC ribbon, HC haste/mastery chest rn
My vault decision this week is Myth Gaze or Myth chest (haste/mastery)
We go Gaze right ?
log variance in the top logs of people using gaze
you can very easily get a bonus roll'd chest from nexus point
is running the double swift mend talent but takes off stuff troll then or is it still allowed ? the lifebloom +2 rej is something im new and learning as that part confused me a bit on how it worked
are you simming dungeon?
Huh. How are you getting such low results
You run prosperity in m+, but not in raids
rejuv makes lifebloom bloom more - your regrowth will automagically apply to lifebloom target too
The low result is last week, Iโm worried it may have been a dgn sim instead of a raid by mistake
Vickman blasted me some days ago when I asked if it is worthed prosp
myth gaze choice
gaze has also been updated, its extremely good
0 value wasting vault on chest
I was checking the patch notes but didnโt see anything ?
funny part is keys are still easy time
Ok I'm not Vickman though
voulk has been updating it every week with info from logs
taking HC item from vault is trolling
but vickman said 31% haste is the cap
so i stick with 31%
BTW when vickman said 31%
he said thats how much he has
and to this day
he says i have 31%
and not you should have exactly 31%
Either make your own point or don't talk about people who can't defend their points here
cap
so resto is what, the best healer in both raid and m+ now? stonks are stonking
he says above 31% haste is useless
i said what i said
hey guys would u pick high haste versa waist mythic, or socket for mythic head? currently crafted waist. cant decide. playing high keys, so versa is not bad i guess
I don't think there is such a thing as "best healer" in raid
You can't do bosses with 4 resto druids
could be reroll token angle
also its not even that ahead if at all
if you have a guide and its so poorly made that people come around and say 31% is the CAP then your guide is not well done
who is bro mad at
BuTeverBloOm is DoINg 20% hPs
Hello , any advice here please ?
so what, you gave up 5 talents for it
he is mad at resto druid him self
let me rephrase, best general healer in both raid and m+ content would perhaps be a better wording maybe. been playing disc up untill now, but lurking here to see for resto because disc is hated by blizz atm
yeah bro
how are these resto druid buffs affecting m+?
disc is hated by blizz
lurking

Get your point, but somewhere people are gonna check where to learn to improve in a specific content
Best m+ healer also depends on comp
this was only from a normal mode voidspire run for the bonus roll quest. everbloom looks silly good
silly good! (5 talent points for 19% hps)
you lost 10% wg hps
for this to be 20
it was normal mode and there simply wasn't enough damage to heal with the 5 healers we had in the pug
Yes but I can't argue with you repeating someone else's point
in raid disc needed a nerf 100% too good there compared, but in keys disc needs help.
so if we break it down, you took 5 talents for 19% hps, so each point in everbloom is about 4%
i cant comprehend that people dont see that they have lost 5 points for the everbloom healing and still call it broken
So you said it, what am I supposed to do with this info?
so blooming frenzie (rank 3) is the same thing as the rank 2 apex things like when u SM it procs 30% to 2 allies? but now does it 3 instead of 5
everbloom is very good but its far away from broken
you invest 5 points + swap from kotg to ws for it
it aint broken
i think its a fine change , all you gotta do for it to work is keep up lb and press sm on cd
So, is there is any reason we're going wildstalker for raid? Curious!
its way more casual friendly
Okay after intense testing(one dungeon) i can say caster druid does a little bit more AOE dmg and in return you feel handicaped + u r spamming 1 button + would rather die
that means rdruid isnt that hard to get decent healing anymore
hey guys would u pick high haste versa waist mythic, or socket for mythic head? currently crafted waist. cant decide. playing high keys, so versa is not bad i guess
I think we got buffed though
lifebloom does a big chunk of healing at the end of its duration, when it is refreshed in pandemic window, when photosynthesis procs or when you consume soul of the forest. that chunk of healing is now AoE
we did get buffed
i feel like this naenia person is just saying stuff
indeed
Torty looks gift horses in the mouth
ah ok got it
and i feel like you protect vickman while his video guide is bad
because you wanna stack healing modifiers on a single target and thats what ws is best at

I've played 4 healer specs in m+ and I obviously play druid much better as an individual but this is legit insane
I dont care what vickman said ngl
These gift horses tend to get us nerfed later
maybe rewatch the video then
i never watched the video
Being the strongest spec in m+ and very good in raid at the same time very often gets specs nerfed
buffs and nerfs are transient - if you are skilled it will not apply to you
Wait so we are using our sotf proc with rejuv on our lifebloom target?
Need cat buffs asap man
- Sun Tzu
but its not that far behind ngl
legit how
what changed
nothing changed
maybe you shouldnt type then
On stream?
it doesn't matter who gets the extra rejuvs, the apex rank 3 bloom happens when you use the SotF buff
what if everyone else is as skilled as u
it does affect u
Maybe you are bad at pressing starfire
Statistically improbable
Its twice as much damage lol
Okay nice ty
is it always ws + convoke + no refo after the patch or can you still change for like tree and kotg?
no one cares what he says on stream thats fluid
all i did is press tarfire
Maybe Ion changed to resto druid?
how does the "final bloom" work, if we keep extending the lifebloom with SM?
lmao
Maybe you're an extremely talented catweaver
you get more blooms from apex talent and photosynthesis than the 1 refresh during pandemic every so often
guys would u pick high haste versa waist mythic, or socket for mythic head? currently crafted waist. cant decide. playing high keys, so versa is not bad i guess
not really
socket? grab a reroll
if you are in a good guild you will find your cohealers are usually as skilled as u
I also cannot argue if I got blasted just because I would like to have an overview from an "expert" ๐. By the way, is it worthed to use a gcd and the need to re apply reju plus loosing extend feature for double sm in m+?
wdym reroll
"everyone" is a wide range
Any 1 got a link to new raid talents
You always want to consume either wg or regrowth if you play prosp
alright then, another question whats the reasoning to keep lifebloom on ourself instead of say the tank
wowhead
vault shop, or voidcore shop?
vault
Make sure you buy 2 weekly coins first btw
self preservation, healing % increases on yourself, being able to control where efflo is easier
Really? Wowhead usually late to the party
i just see spark or socket there
It's bugged rn
does anybody know the ppm roughly of photosynthesis ( assuming 2x rej) like does most of it just go to overhealing or is it consistently healing in healing windows (m+)
Voulk is the one who makes QElive
and the tank just isn't going to need the healing
And he is in this chat
You can ping him
(he is sleeping rn, just saying in general)
20
and you're basically guaranteed to always have a regrowth on your lifebloom buddy
Is the reroll account wide boys?
looking at 5 of my logs
Can you only spend them on one char?
the unlock is but the currency used is per character
Which part of it
hmm okay, ill try this out tonight in raid.. so we are not letting lifebloom expire because of these changes. just so i dont mess up today, we just keep going like we did basically.
120 procs over 6 mins
and that procs more with assumed WG and regrowth also on ?
With the bonus loot are we only getting "2 coins" either 1 from raid or 2 from m+
I wonder why the wording says โfinal bloomโ instead of just โbloomโ
Nomg... So 2 rerolls on each char
You also proc more with symb relationship buff
yes, letting lifebloom expire is not optimal
WoW tooltips
pref nance
the dev doesnt play druid
Wowhead qelive and icy veins are all the same person for resto druid lol
You get 2 coins per week from the big guy. Raid boss takes 2 coins, m+ takes 1
Got your point, thanks
doesn't play game u mean
"Final" Fantasy gives the same vibes
so if tanks a self healing tank say brew or dk do i just wanna perma keep it on him or myself and not other squisher dps ?
Content type?
Holy gate keep, thanks for confirming
do i need the voidcore quest maxed? im missing 1 step. i dont see any reroll coins xD
yes
and then i can reroll vault or what ?
6/6
m+
reroll vault???
you buy them from the dude for either gold, marl or vet crests
ye bro idk what u guys tlaking xD u mean bonus roll?
Keep on whoever requires more healing in your key level
for loot from content not vault lol
thank u
go look druid guide on wowhead -> click bis list -> scroll down to bonus loot
6 tokens of merit from your vault can buy 1 additional reroll according to patch notes
what stacks of abundance should I stop casting regrowth
ye thanks, got it now haha
Never stop.
below like 10 or 9
You will always have a minimum of 6-8 abundance stacks
Thatโs made up.
7
6-7
it entirely depends on mana, the length of the fight, the healing required in that moment, your rejuv prep before you need the regrowths, your sotf rejuving during regrowth phase
idk man there isn't a hard and fast rule
You press swiftmend, you keep 2 rejuvs on your Lb target and therefore always have 8 stacks out.
More after convoke, tranq etc.
Sometimes you cast rejuv while moving.
But with 6 abundance stacks, your Regrowth is already better than a rejuv.
Regrowth then does more healing and is more efficient.
The only reason to actively press rejuv over it, is some event that is going to come at a certain timing.
movement
i love this druid discord
I wrote that.
it procs alot
i love this druid discord
Some people were of the opinion that you should never press Regrowth below 12 abundance stacks.
(They proved this with a grey log)
if you just type it procs a lot
you might aswell not type anything
XD
question: is it worth holding switfmend a few seconds si I can extend lifebloom in the pandemic window?
No
Its as helpfull as going and calculating how much it procs per minute
useless metric
not controlable
extending it with swiftmend during the pandemic window does not give you the bloom you would have gotten had you just cast lifebloom again
Just press swiftmend
It's controllable though
ok, thanks
I love this druid discord
But he was asking for this specifically. Maybe he wants exact numbers to do some calculation or whatever. โA lotโ is just not helping at all.
Your procs depend on the hots on lifebloom
understood, so the refresh bloom is just a bonus, nothing to worry about
It sucks we arenโt using reforestation though I like having tree a lot during paladins execution sentence
People are asking legitimate questions. Either reply with helpful info or don't type
Don't troll people who are asking questions
what do we reroll on
Knowing the exact procs between 1 rejuv 2 rejuvs rg wg bla bla is legit not usefull ?
use upgrade finder
like be serious?
We dont run reforestation anymore??
Ok that's wrong though
Hi guys, i have question. We are trying to push m+ as far as possible, unfortunately our party is not perfect clean. What trinkets you play for max hps output? thx
You should be coining aiming for long term items
WS doesn't buff reforestation like kotg does
do I craft ring or wrists? (no second emb yet)
sorry i guess use upgrade finder and also your brain?
like they will still be there
Ah yeah thats true..
trinkets wouldnt save that
I think using upgrade finder for coins is stupid
what are you running currently?
everbloom is stronger now and WS can give % healing increases that affect the cleave blooming from apex talents
ok
i have 2 good rings and havent killed cosmos or lura mythic yet
Do people still play lightblind wrath with moonkin damage talents?
prolly gaze
Do you have mythic gaze?
What's your trinket status
Might be a stupid question: why do not we run harmonious blooming? Wouldn't this buff up the blooming proc?
ur cooked

you would lose valuable talents for a gain that isn't as big as you might think
go reroll some m+ 
wait where are you raiding you didnt get hof?
im just raiding with friends
Because it adds stacks "in the end" and mastery stacks have diminishing returns. The first few stacks are good, stacks 5-6 not so much
peaceful life...
yes
So you get like 1/4th of your mastery % as a multiplicative increase on the target of your lifebloom which is already immortal as shit
There are just better points to pick
idk with a functioning brain upgrade finder works just fine to see what is an upgrade
Nexus point rollers
it would be kind of insane if mastery with 4 hots + 3 stacks from lifebloom gave 266% increased healing
i honestly expected the wowhead list to have more than 3 things/1 dungeon listed for you to be telling me that
ye i guess i try to aim for chest and weapon but i have both crafted
Is it worth taking a wep from vault if I get crafted wep? ๐ค
it can be
You are in need of crests anyways
wont we have to spam alot of dmg spells for mana now? without reforestation / tree of life. also our healing kinda sucks on the movement now then, if they didnt seriously buff the lifebloom healing
i legit cant roll a good item
Like I have 110 crests this week and 3 myth items

till you reroll and end up wasting all your rerolls
If I roll twice in dungeo
depends on the length of the fight and the efficiency of your healing
So getting pieces in crafted slots is not that bad
reroll tier sets for 2 more mythics
i have mythic shoulders in vault with leech
we use healing over time and they keep ticking away while we're moving. we're also VERY fast
I saw JB had a icon that showed number of rejuv currently out and time until next one expires. Any idea how he achieved that?
I think you just start rolling nexus point
Yeah and how many crests u got
I think NP is the best for sure
Ok, so that's why you also do not need to hard apply as many hots, but just 2x reju are enough to always keep on the lb target
You will need weapon and chest eventually
When we have elder buff active are we still regrowthing or just spamming starfire
what does more damage in mytic? the feral o balance build? having in mind the 12.0.5 changes. any1 knows?
Trick question. We don't spec into that shit
wowhead is up to date with this information
Are u not a KOTG andy
Not really, I'm picking whatever does more hps
where can i find that?
HPS? As a healer?
i mean, in what url
Smh, its dps time brodi
Rotation
whistle and heart
I think he's talkin about m+ tbh
Ribbon or gaze, whistle kinda dead
thank you!
Me too


