resto

[shrewd badger]

Starsurge give you owl !

[plain steeple]

Lycaras has never been fixed

[hard bear]

Mastery issue?

[cosmic saffron]

morning uwu - yall playing VI or prosperity for keys over 15?

[half timber]

It would also be weird since Wildstalker is quite "made" being jumping in and out of catform. I could see rdruid overall damage be better in the open world, always found it quite weird to switch to a whole different spec but yea

[wise galleon]

I was going to craft chest as third craft (having boots and 2h weapon crafted). Should I just send it? Or is crafting belt more of a long term plan. https://questionablyepic.com/live/upgradereport/ntwtlcreuvrh

[thorn plover]

Yes

[cosmic saffron]

[half timber]

Prosperity UwU

sorry

xD

[spark river]

is this your answer on every question today lmao

[thorn plover]

Yes

[spark river]

Fully braced for that

quite easy

[thorn plover]

I was a lifer VI, then I saw the light and switched to prosp

VI in raid tho

[spark river]

vi is bis

[radiant narwhal]

on an alt, should I just send crafts on pieces I dont have?

[spark river]

and i wont hear anything else

[cosmic saffron]

yeah prosp in raid is poopoo

[thorn plover]

We play prosp in raid come Tuesday I bet

[cosmic saffron]

shh

[spark river]

no way

[cosmic saffron]

I don't mind it actually

more sotf

[spark river]

maybe with ms then idk

because its impossible without ms to play prosp mana wise

[thorn plover]

Especially without refo

Man our tree is borked

[spark river]

I played last night wildstalker apex without refo

[marsh prism]

holy shit she might actually die this week

[spark river]

Brought me back to tww i swear

I was vibing

[wise galleon]

Like pinned msg says to dump into mythic track gear, so trinket and shoulders instead of crafting?

[thorn plover]

If you have 2 embellished already, and myth pieces to upgrade, don't craft

[wise galleon]

You mean weapon embellishment and arcanoweave? I have that yes

[thorn plover]

Then upgrade your other myth pieces

[wise galleon]

oki thanks

[half timber]

Who dies

good or bad

[snow umbra]

My god this looks like my logs

[marsh prism]

alleria (or w/e happens to her idk the story)

54 -> 36% in first two pulls of night

[radiant narwhal]

@marsh prism whats the best way to sim what the best craft is

[marsh prism]

upgrade finder?

doesnt it do crafts now

or you just send ur armory and i tell you

but sec, still raiding

few more pulls

[spark river]

It does

[tidal lynx]

Maybe we run grove guardians in keys due to lack of ranged DPS spell synergy with wild stalker

[spark river]

Best way is to look upgrades by slot

[plain steeple]

Our dmg form gives a mastery bonus.
So we lose our haste bonus from lycara (that would give extra damage) and instead receive mastery, that does not give any damage.

[hard bear]

Ah yeah yeah

[marsh prism]

its actually a pretty good spread for how op my cohealers classes are but how i'm not actually bad

i dont think any of us have purpled

[radiant narwhal]

I believe in u guys

deep p3 pulls

[marsh prism]

i believe too

two more raid nights this week after this too

[spark river]

@thorn plover we cant let people see our logs

[thorn plover]

Run upgrade finder, make sure you set crafted to haste mastery, then go to the crafted tab and it will show you all of them

[wise galleon]

Still got 218 mythic crests, after upgrading every myth track "bis"gear, I guess I can craft something?

[radiant narwhal]

thank youuuu

[half timber]

Ohh with your guild I assume, good luck tho!

[snow umbra]

I just make sure I have the "overheal" part selected on my logs. It makes me feel better

[oak garnet]

dream of cenarius gonna be # 1 healing in my weekly 10s for sure

[worn ledge]

Any recommendations on where to find the best rotation advice for both mythic and raids? I need help meow

[radiant narwhal]

ring it is

[marsh prism]

i am referring to mythic

[marsh prism]

boring.

[radiant narwhal]

ur boring.

[spark river]

they couldnt physically make me craft a ring in this expansion

[marsh prism]

im very fun

[wise galleon]

I have double embellish, sent all mythic crests on mythic track gear except on the Coach's Whistle. Im gonna crafft the chest im just bummed I should have done that prev week instead of boots. That follows pinned comment? Looking for double check before sending..sorry..

[stable willow]

is there a reason a lot of the high rio r druids are using boomy form or is it just for damage

[oak garnet]

its china druids to path for sunfire

bc they like that shit

[haughty ibex]

china just loves it and on raiderio u see lots of them on the top

[stable willow]

yeah fair they're always cooking on most classes ive played

[oak garnet]

next week im gonna be sunfirin like a champ tho

[half timber]

Sounded like that too, I did Voidspire Normal today, completely full with pugs, we were all shocked that we killed Alleria first try. While it might not sound like any accomplishment, Im still happy 😄

[marsh prism]

anything in a pug is a major accomplishment

i could never

[ocean sinew]

accomplishments are about internal satisfaction and personal development so gz

[spark river]

wdym

i did myth dreamrift in a pug last week

quite an experience

[wise galleon]

im pugging the whole season as of now, painge

[hardy junco]

Need some help!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cfmb964ZP8jQVdkB?fight=57&type=healing

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9TDXMJQp1vr4cRyg?fight=16&type=healing&source=16

Ik my lifebloom uptime is trash, gotta get better on that one. But one thing ive noticed is that my regrowths are really weak compared to others, they mainly give other healers 40k+ hps, mine is at 31-34 k ish.

Any suggestions?

this one was horrible: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c79RGbCQmLhKjgqd?fight=22&type=healing

[half timber]

Thanks for the kind word 😄

[half timber]

Yea everyone cheered at the end was really nice tho

[tidal lynx]

The lifebloom addon helped me a lot with my lb uptime

[hardy junco]

Lifebloomalerter+

[spark river]

You re just not pressing enough regrowths

And your lifebloom is at 26%

which hurts me

a lot

[hardy junco]

ik that fight was chaos

[spark river]

I mean every fight

This isnt fight specific

[sharp sedge]

they haven't been tainted by the english-speaking scene griefing everyone into playing dotc

[spark river]

I took a look at every log

[hardy junco]

So basicly really up my Lifebloom, and more regrowth. Basicly means im over-ramping i guess

[spark river]

Yeah Rejuv being double the amount of your regrowths is bad

[hardy junco]

But, do you wanna prioritize people that already have hots with your regrowth? Or do i wanna spread it more? So for instance i rejuv 12 people, i put regrowth on the 8 remaining?

[random basin]

Hey gamers, on murlock IO i see quite a few people pick up the boomy/starfall talents, what are they dropping to do that and do they just sit in boomyform 24/7?

[dense lantern]

cat talents

[random basin]

Also is 2/2 on forestwalk relatively important?

[spark river]

Regrowth people taking damage. You d want to hit people with multiple hots on them as regrowth would hit harder

you re also wasting

your swiftmends with vi

half of them arent on the person with rejuv, germ and lb on them

[random basin]

Do they still rip/rake cos a lot of them still have it talented and i presume boomie stuff doesn't proc the wildstaker debuff/buff

[dapper minnow]

Need a check from people here. But I am raiding mythic and my mana is running out. I think it is very poor swiftmend usage. On log review Im only casting it 25% of the times I should. Fixing this will help my mana right?

[fast snow]

Quick question, if I’m going to be helping out some friends on heroic and we’ll be low healing it (in terms of healers relative to group size) would tree be better than convoke for longevity?

[spark river]

Yes but its also other things

[dapper minnow]

New to raiding, thanks in advance.

[dense lantern]

Idk what the others are doing, if you have rip/rake you still use it in st

[spark river]

So what I will run in keys will be rip/rake and starfire/starsurge

Seems like the best combination for aoe and st

[dense lantern]

Starting next week you will not run rip/rake anymore most likely

[spark river]

Only if boomkin is broken on st

which I doubt

[dense lantern]

idk if face ran any sims with the new overrides

buffs on surge are huge

without sims im just guessing

[spark river]

Well if its busted we ll be running full boomkin then yeah

[dapper minnow]

Thanks a lot. This is the major thing wow analyzer pointed out for me. Ill try to fix that and see how it goes.

[spark river]

Overcasting rejuvs a lot is also a big mana problem

[heavy dirge]

Hello, I'm sorry to ask this question which will probably seem stupid to many, but I can't understand why my rejuvenation sometimes takes the skin of the one from tree of life (more flashy pink, new design) when I use swiftmend, and it also pops some sort of blooming successively on me as well, what is that?

[spark river]

Solve those 2 and you should be fine

[spark river]

Thats soul of the forest rejuv and the blooming is from your apex talent

The lifebloom is the spell that blooms

[dapper minnow]

that is an issue. Usually Im fine, but wasn't untill the fight lasted over 6.5 minutes I realized I had issues.

[heavy dirge]

oh it's funny, because in description it says lifeblooms bursts, but even without lifebloom active it seems to burst out of thin air xD

thanks for the answer

[opaque frost]

Also are you potting at 80ish mana so you get another one by end of fight?

[spark river]

I sometimes do that yeah if the fight is like 10 minutes

Or I lower my wg cpm a bit to preserve mana

Ideally you wouldnt want to mana pot at all

[opaque frost]

Yeah, was wondering if @dapper minnow was doing that. It helps new healers if they struggling with mana

It’s a bandaid but effective

[random basin]

Ah okay gotcha

[dapper minnow]

Im using mana pots, but if I can fix this issue, may try lights potential

[spark river]

Reck potion is what you should use

[dense lantern]

lil gup

[dapper minnow]

Can usually get two in.

[dense lantern]

what 10m fight are you doing

[spark river]

First week of hc chimaerus

was 10 min

But yeah most fights are around 7 minutes other than the end bosses

[oak garnet]

heroic feels like normal now

[spark river]

So you shouldnt need to mana pot in 7 minutes

[steel kraken]

Is convoke a on cd cast? Or sd i save ir for big dmg times?

(raid)

I feel like im using it wrong

[white onyx]

is there a meaningful difference between these two in my vault

it certainly doesn't sim much of a difference...

speed is nice, i guess

[spark river]

I would take the one with more haste

[spark river]

You should treat it as a smaller raid cd. Ramp before damage and then wg into convoke.

[plain steeple]

I’d take the speed one.

[fast snow]

Mana return wise instant shorter CD starsurge return compared to biting with MSS is it significantly lower?

Never thought about it but I was curious

[plain steeple]

Starsurge costs you mana. Wrath is better for mana than starsurge.

Also if you wanna reg mana, you use hotw + finisher every 2min and play with convoke.
Spamming wraths is such a huge healing loss for almost no mana gain.

[golden pulsar]

What are some -must- have addons for resto you guys feel ?

[plain steeple]

Party/raidframes

That give you a very good visualisation of your teammates HP and your active hots.

[round hull]

What program do people use to live log their data inside mythic keys?

is it just the warcraft logs app?

[golden pulsar]

Archon app

[plain steeple]

Yes

[round hull]

Its free right?

[plain steeple]

WCL is free, sure.

[whole horizon]

shouldnt need the entire archon app

warcraft logs uploader is their standalone logging tool

[round hull]

Thank you. I will download it and give it a try, much apperciated ❤️

[dense lantern]

theyre the same app

[dense lantern]

do not

download archon lite if you really need to

[round hull]

Okay. I will DL that.

[whole horizon]

the archon app does way more than logs though

[dense lantern]

yes but they're the same app

it just hides the ui elements

[whole horizon]

why do you not recommend using either

[dense lantern]

sec in a key

[idle lake]

funny owl form

[dense lantern]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1sjj71p/combatlogdev_a_privacy_conscious_combat_log/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

specifically this

[idle lake]

yes

and loggerhead to enable logging inside instances

[dense lantern]

Archon lite is fine on that front, but I wouldn't download it either after all of this

[spark palm]

can you explain how hotw regs mana? i don't really get the spell at all

[wary belfry]

Master shapeshifter

[plain steeple]

You gain 5 combopoints in one gcd and can cast a finisher directly afterwards.

[wary belfry]

It gives 5 combo points

[spark palm]

ah okay thanks

[round hull]

So I should be taking master shapeshifter over liveliness right?

[late mountain]

is the trinket off vanguard good for keys?

[plain steeple]

Only if you need mana

[thorn plover]

Your app loads to wcl right? Was going to give it a go tonight

[grizzled seal]

No, it's terrible

[round hull]

I've honestly really been liking void suffuser, and ribbon for the flat mastery/haste

[grizzled seal]

Yeah but flat int is better

[late mountain]

so what are my best options for keys

[grizzled seal]

Checking wowhead would be best

[spark palm]

so the combo gives 12,5k mana every 2 min right? and casting 6 wraths oder 2 min foes the same? why is the latter strictly worse? haven't had too many mana problems yet just trying to learn

[late mountain]

i have just wondering if the discord agrees with that stuff

[round hull]

Torty which trinkets do you run?

[grizzled seal]

The best ones I have

[random basin]

for rdruid is avoidance better than leech in keys or is leech still quite good?

[grizzled seal]

You guys can't entrap me

I've studied the law (watched Suits)

[grizzled seal]

In general leech is worse in dungeons than in raid because it doesn't proc off self healing and you heal self 1/5 instead of 1/20

[random basin]

Yea thats what it was on other healers i just wanst sure if the hotprofile changed it much

[whole horizon]

bless up

i'm deleting that shit asap

[grizzled seal]

I don't think you are getting relevant amounts of either

It's kinda just vibe based

[plain steeple]

Isn’t avoidance pretty bad as well? Iirc either you or Voulk said that avoidance wouldn’t work with many AoE spells anyways.

[grizzled seal]

Yeah but like

Both give 2%

It's not a meaningful amount for anything

[plain steeple]

Yeah that’s right.
Also if I want more healing in raid, I shouldn’t run a stat that reduces dmg taken. 🤷‍♂️

[grizzled seal]

You can run 1000 logs through some analyzer to determine the best enchant and I can guarantee that your survival will change by less than 1 death out of 1000 deaths in the difference

[round hull]

I feel like the speed feels really good, makes me feel like usane bolt

[peak charm]

Is that worth the GCD + lyrica Loss in cat form ?

[thorn whale]

what GCD loss

From pressing rake, HOTW and Rip?

[frosty canyon]

what is lyrica? keep on seeing it

[thorn plover]

Talent at the bottom of your class tree

[heavy turtle]

just watching a streamer saying "Nature's bounty isnt worthing"... is that true? IS THAT REALLY TRUE?

[grizzled seal]

Have you tried asking them

[fair lava]

is there any thoughts on a % increase overall on the everbloom update next week or is it just too difficult to calc until we get to play the game tuesday?

[marsh prism]

lycara's

[marsh prism]

give me $50 on paypal and ill tell you

[silk ice]

Lyrica is lycara’s sister that loves to lip sync

[thorn plover]

Preliminary math looks around 10% but we don't have any real testing. So it could be way off

[marsh prism]

[frosty canyon]

oh duh, sorry the mispelling actually thrw me off for some reason

thanks all

[marsh prism]

all good

i knew what was happening

[silk ice]

Surprised you don’t use Ko-Fi with your pfp and emoji in your name

[marsh prism]

i do

its just funnier to say paypal in that context

[silk ice]

[marsh prism]

however

ko-fi.com/im_nance

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/642228160074612737.gif?v=1

[silk ice]

You misspelled poster in your bio

[marsh prism]

naw

[pure willow]

hello, new to resto druid. for raids, after reaching 12 stacks of abundance, is there any point to casting more rejuvs, or just spam regrowth to spread it (even to full hp people)?

[silk ice]

If damage is going out in a bit but not right now, it helps extend it, at the cost of some mana

[lilac helm]

hey guys, can i have a quick vault advice? idk if im correct but im thinking to get the token here cuz my sim says vaelgor champ is worst than crucible, and i crafted bracers so.. any advices?

[main timber]

Criminal vault. LInk the report and we'll see if we can get an upgrade out o fit

[lilac helm]

[thorny bane]

Oh shoot is .5 coming on tuesday??

[grizzled seal]

Yes

[thorny bane]

And how does content go from .5 onward? This is the halfway point for the season and we wont really get anything until s2 right?

[thorn whale]

there is a .7 coming with a raid

[thorny bane]

Im also surprised the reworked apex is gonna be so good considering druid is topping a lot of healer charts already, youd expect compensation nerfs

At least following some trending decisions from blizz youd expect it, not that they should do that

[bold grail]

Is cat dps still the way to go in keys next week?

[thorny bane]

I believe so but grove tree did get a little love with the buffs to casting dmg. Cat weaving resto already doesnt do much dmg compared to other healers, so people who dont wanna do the cat stuff wont feel as behind other cat people anymore since we bottom of barrel anyway for dmg

[bold grail]

Yeah my dps is dismal in higher keys cause I’d rather rejuvenate up the team

[thorny bane]

Cat weaving felt like you were doing so much extra damage but seeing the logs its like oh wait

Was that even worth

[old pollen]

what charts?

[thorny bane]

M+ (idk about raiding)

We dead last for dmg

And not even by a close margin haha

[thorn whale]

How much single target damage does resto sham do

[grizzled seal]

Nobody knows cuz they make it into a classic spec

[thorn whale]

I just refuse to believe we're dead last on ST damage

[thorny bane]

Okay its a little close with shaman, they've been ahead of us already but the 30% to all damage will help resto sham out nicely

[thorn whale]

Like what statistics are you looking at

[thorny bane]

Won't make them a new tier of powerful or anything crazy but really appreciated

Archon, mythicstats

[thorn whale]

Alrighty

[thorny bane]

Are those bad/unreliable?

[thorn whale]

Yes - Go to warcraftlogs and look at the boss dps done by the different classes on the highest keys

Overall damage is mostly just pad damage

you're not speeding the key up by it

(in high keys that is)

[thorny bane]

Isn't archon and warcraftlogs the same 😮

[thorn whale]

it's a data aggregation site

You're looking at overall damage

Which is useless

[thorny bane]

Could you navigate to one and link it for me. Im on mobile going to work

This boss fight zoom in inspector

[thorn whale]

It's just selecting it on warcraftlogs

I took a 19 because no shaman has done a 20

Pure ST and prio damage, druid is not bad

very far from

[odd citrus]

what is the best way to use swiftmend when playing m+ when damage is about to come out in 2-3 seconds? is it better to use swiftmend before the dmg goes out to spread extra rejuvs or should i save it for after to get value from the direct healing it does while also having a buffed regrowth?

[thorny bane]

Maybe I couldnt see it on mobile through a cursory glance. Ty, and is that specifically the cat weaving tree? Can we see grove damage?

[cunning parcel]

I think imo why it feels bad is you kinda just press your button every two minutes and maintain rip/rake on st

like you can stay in cat form but it feels very diminshing

and then aoe it feels more effective to just thrash every 5 seconds

and then mw just spins without risk and does like double your damage

[thorn whale]

Yeah I don't like our aoe either

[spark sapphire]

hello, do druids still get innervate if they cast it on someone else?

iirc it used to be a talent but idk if they removed it or not

[thorn whale]

no

[spark sapphire]

nothing like that anymore right?

no mana return

[thorn whale]

Nope

[spark sapphire]

we usually only innervate ourselves right?

[thorn whale]

I would yeahb

[peak charm]

Always

[thorn whale]

Unless you're in a situation where you believe someone else would make better use of your innervate

Then yes, use it on yourself

[spark sapphire]

alright ty

[sharp forge]

Any arcui users here ?? I want to track my incarnation duration comes from reforestation

cant see it

[thorn plover]

You can do it in there but it's weird.
Basically you make a custom bar that starts a 16s timer when you LOSE reforestation buff

It works until you cancelaura or tranq. It is better than nothing however

[weak quarry]

quick wild growth question for M+, should I be hitting it on CD to maximize treant generation or holding it for damage windows?

EDIT obviously if there's a damage window in a second or two i should hold it

[grizzled seal]

You need to be specced into incarn to be able to see it

[sharp forge]

I am using convoke sadge

[thorn plover]

It should be up before damage goes out

[grizzled seal]

Great game design

[thorn plover]

The method I mentioned works without being spec into incarn, but like I said, it's not perfect

[weak quarry]

i guess what im asking is outside of imminent damage windows, is there enough value to be had from the extra treant to warrant hitting WG on CD

i suppose I can check heal meters and see what % is treants and go from there

[thorn plover]

It's not about the treant it's about mastery stacks

[weak quarry]

ah ofc

[thorn plover]

And having WG to consume with sm

[sharp forge]

hmm I`ve never done custom bar

[thorn plover]

If playing prosp

[grizzled seal]

WG also applies symb bloom through implant

[thorn plover]

I can share mine if you want but I'm not at home for a while

[grizzled seal]

Don't forget that part

[sharp forge]

I am trying atm

I will try but u can send it anyway

tyy

[golden pulsar]

Do the normal party frames for blizz show all the hots we cast ect ?

and stuff we gotta dispell

[thorn plover]

They show it, not well tho

[weak quarry]

i see some disagreements on VI vs prosp are there any "use VI in situation 1, use prosp in situation 2" rules?

again talking purely m+ environment

[thorn plover]

It's largely personal preference I think

Prosp means you can double sotf in short time which is nice

VI saves you gcds

[weak quarry]

ok makes sense, good cases for both i guess

thank you!

[thorn plover]

I was a VI lifer, and recently switched to prosp and won't change back

Being able to swiftmend into regrowth twice is huge on some fights

[arctic swan]

Yo guys, ave you heard of m33k aura? Some of us could test it by chance?

[weak quarry]

do you know if using VI to extend wild growth increases the strength of WG again?

[thorn plover]

Lots here are using it

[thorn plover]

Wym?

[arctic swan]

Aight I’ll try it then ! Ty

[weak quarry]

say WG scales from 100% to 0% healing from 10s to 0s lifetime. at 5s lifetime its doing 50% healing, if i swiftmend to extend it to 10s does it shoot back up to 100% or does it just decay down from 50% but slower?

[thorn plover]

I actually have no idea.
You use VI to extend your LB and rejuvs on your LB target

[sharp forge]

I ve done it looks perfect thank you can we make it icon instead of bar ?

[weak quarry]

yeah i dont think it really has any noticeable value if it does reset to 100% but im more curious

[thorn plover]

Probably if you show icon and shrink bar width as small as it can

[molten gull]

Interesting question but yeah, I'm not typically slamming swiftmend to extend WG. Casting WG nearly on CD anyway

[sharp forge]

y as I guess, cant find any custom icon section

[thorn plover]

No you can't do custom icons in the add-on, you can change it in your game files if you really wanted but lots of work for that

[vocal hinge]

is 1/4 apex in raid bait xd

[oak garnet]

No one does that

[thorn plover]

That's a visual bug, not a real thing

[grizzled seal]

Right now you either play 4 or 0

[vocal hinge]

yea i figured lmfao thanks

[grizzled seal]

Changes after patch

[weak quarry]

does your HoTTracker addon require the hots to be tracked in the blizzard CD manager UI somehow? i tried a mouse cursor addon but it requried CDs to be in the CD manager and read the data from there

[thorn plover]

No it doesnt

[weak quarry]

goated

will give it a try thank you

[cunning parcel]

why dont I know what vi means i play this class alot

verdant imbrace

[thorn plover]

Infusion

But ya

Top left of your tree

[cunning parcel]

oh that one

love that one

[zenith pike]

i need abundance tracker..do you know someone ?

[thorn plover]

HoTTracker

[cunning parcel]

blizard ui buff tracker 😎

[thorn plover]

You can also track it in the base cooldown manager

[oak garnet]

I started tracking call of the elder druid @thorn plover

I'm gonna be blasting

[thorn plover]

Woo

[cunning parcel]

I use elvui for everything else but the in game buff tracker actually does alright

[oak garnet]

Dream of cenarius actually pumps in meme keys

[thorn plover]

If my key group decides to quit playing I'm going that build and doing DoC weekly keys

[oak garnet]

DoC did 28% of my healing

In some 12s

[sharp forge]

If I stampeding roar during incarn from reflo cant go back right

[oak garnet]

Nope unless you have tree to begin with

[thorn plover]

Should be 50% next week

[opaque frost]

Is there an addon that will let me put things like swiftmend and lifebloom where my cursor is? Mainly swiftmend

[cunning parcel]

am I putting heart of the wild in my healing cds sheet

[thorn plover]

Mine does lifebloom, you can do all that with m33kauras tho

[opaque frost]

Oh nice, I’ll check it out

[silk ice]

If you need a reminder of a good time to farm some mana

Normally no

[opaque frost]

I have yours but it’s not on my mouse position, guess I got some learning to do

[cunning parcel]

i was memeing about doc

[thorn plover]

It's in the options /lba

I've had lots ask for swiftmend so I'll probably just add it in there as a bonus

[opaque frost]

Oh hey thanks for info

[molten gull]

Does cat just do massively more dam and therefore DOC healing than moonkin?

[thorn plover]

Cat doesn't after tuesday

[zenith pike]

whats the maximum ? 10 stacks ?

[molten gull]

oh interesting. cat dam getting nerf??

thats kinda hilarious since we already do beans damage

[thorn plover]

12 for abundance, but this tracks every rejuv you have out

[zenith pike]

in dungeon i have 10 maximal

[thorn plover]

No huge boomie spells buff

[molten gull]

oh sweet

[thorn plover]

Well ya there's only 5 people

[zenith pike]

ok

[grizzled seal]

you can hot guardians and pets

counts for abundance

Kinda stupid to do that but you can

[zenith pike]

What's a good average number of stacks? Do you always manage to get the maximum? for m+

[thorn plover]

I gave up trying to track that. Every solution I came up with made it so I could see every druids rejuvs lol

[thorn plover]

As much as needed to keep people alive. Rarely max. Abundance isn't something you should worry about tracking on m+

You want hots out before damage comes, but it's not like raid where you need to monitor your stacks

[fickle garden]

are there any known bugs that cause haste values to fluctuate by 2% randomly for no reason

sometimes buffed im at 38% and other times its 36%

i cant figure out why

[bright swift]

are you night elf lol

[grizzled seal]

[tidal lynx]

How many haste is lust

[bright swift]

30%

[waxen ingot]

im pretty sure

cat still does more single target

[thorn plover]

Probably

[waxen ingot]

well cat does less aoe even now

[thorn plover]

It'll be close

[sharp quarry]

close would be the target

[waxen ingot]

Im not sure why do people want moonking

who tf wants to cast for 2 seconds

[sharp quarry]

i like moonkin

[waxen ingot]

Chinese spys

[thorn plover]

I love cancelling my 2s Starfire cast

It's the best game play

/s

[sharp quarry]

nah im just a pleb, not pushing high. around 15, going into 16. dont need the min max. i find boomking fun.

[waxen ingot]

Im talking purely from a fun perspective

[thorn plover]

Cat is much more fun and fluid than boomie imo

[sharp quarry]

"imo" is the key here

[thorn plover]

Yep 100%

[waxen ingot]

i dont see how casting 2 seconds in a gamemode where there is shit on the ground every 2 seconds is fun for anyone but its not my healer doing it so idc

[still valve]

I think cat is too hard or bothersome for the average player, and the philosophy seems to be making it so nobody gets left behind

[waxen ingot]

cat being hard

is propaganda btw

boomking is harder if anything

[still valve]

Ye it’s awesome. Peak fun when we had dmg and trinkets in df

[waxen ingot]

cat is easer + less punishing for the group

i bet my ass someone is dying in a 15 cause their druid decided to cast starfire

[thorn plover]

Cat is literally easier

[rustic olive]

I left boomie to get away from starfire. Not cast it for even less damage.

[steady sierra]

hello Druid friends, any tips or suggestions on improving play? Really struggling this tier, regrowth seems to be hitting for nothing, not sure what Im doing wrong. Any help is appreciated, thanks!!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:jbHVTmwyWFracpMz?fight=last&type=healing

[tribal forge]

But on harder packs where you can't weave, you can sunfire / moonfire a couple

[thorn plover]

Why is that different than raking a couple

[slow pasture]

I call this : close

[rancid portal]

From what I see is that you play Tree of Life, wich isnt optiomal on that Boss

[light swan]

Hello... dumb question, I use Danders and on Chimaerus i cant see the Consuming Miasma debuff because its considered a boss debuff and its crowded out by other boss debuffs. I've looked the Danders discord and they say boss debuffs are all or nothing. Currently getting by with a mouse over macro that works half the time. Any ideas?

[bleak vale]

Hi everyone - first time resto main here (been a 3k min io dps for last several seasons). First off, mad respect to healers lol...so much more stressful than dps.

Recently started clearing 10s (late start to midnight due to tbc), and am trying to understand what an avg HPS should be. Smoother runs are around 45k hps while the rougher ones are upwards of 65k(ish) hps. Is the variance largely due to other people just not doing mechanics, slower killing times, etc?

[robust crest]

chimerus have only 1 raid wide PA and the dispell so it should be easy to see with an big icon
and your macro is not working any time ? what do you mean by that+

[ivory glen]

HPS isn’t really worth tracking IMO, if the dungeon isn’t doing enough damage to get your HPS high then that isn’t your fault

[bleak vale]

Yeah no, im less worried about lower hps - to me its an indicator that the dps/tank are doing their jobs lol. Trying to understand if thats accurate though bc once it gets close to 70k hps, healing feels much more stressful

[foggy merlin]

hey guys can I get some tips from you?
I am new to resto druid.
I am checking some logs, and saw people using Thrash and Sunfire to help with damage (even though healers damage are low currently).

my question is: do I have to transform into Bear to use Trash or there is any way to cast it on Cat form? is it worth 2 gcd?

[robust crest]

concentrate to your healing if you're really new into that class
you can do DMG every 2 min with your Heard of the Wild and Rip

[marsh prism]

mangle into bear then bearthrash

we don't have catthrash any longer

mangle for fluid form

[light swan]

Consuming miasma is considered a boss debuff just like caustic phlegm.... one of the healers on my team runs Elvui and sees it but the rest of us can't.
Im watching for the player that runs to the puddle and using a macro to dispel them instead of using the raid frame

[marsh prism]

I'm literally just gonna post like nothing's changing. fuck it

we ball. p

[robust crest]

then you should look to your aura filtering and boss debuff section
maybe some config issue cause with the right settings you see the dispell as Boss Debuff Icon

[foggy merlin]

thanks. I am used to the healer part. I am able to do some +16 keys and just want to optimize my dmg to help on keys.

[robust crest]

yeah ok im m+ you should do some dmg
i thought you meant raid

[hearty cargo]

guys do we always wanna take haste flask or is there a point where mastery is more important ? in raid or m+

[light swan]

I've looked and havent figured it out yet... apparently no one in the danders discord hasn't figured it out either. I was wondering if there was something else I could use.... hell even having their name flash on my screen lol

[robust crest]

check pm

[reef holly]

hey guys do we have a good idea with to craft (got 2h and cloak with emb rn) kinda wondering what to get next.. do we know if the blessing signet is nice?

[wise galleon]

This QElive % does not take in account L'ura's neck having 2 sockets right?

[main timber]

It should

It makes sense that it loses by a bit to a 9 ilvl higher neck

[proven phoenix]

is double socket neck way better than alleria neck even with worse stats

how important is the socket

[wise galleon]

oki then ill just craft neck i guess, doubt ill be doing mythic crown or midnight falls mythic anytime

[glossy rose]

yo is a good lifebloom macro just

/cast [target=player] Lifebloom

for fights where it makes sense to have one

[whole horizon]

i think that syntax works, i use
/cast [@player] Lifebloom

[gentle nova]

The socket makes the diff between hero to myth track iirc

[glossy rose]

i saw napkin math a while back that it’s like 20ilvls on jewelry and closer to 25-30 on bracers and less on helm etc

[peak charm]

I’ve had same issue . Tried making dispel icon bigger kinda helps but still not great

[main timber]

No, they aren't worth anywhere near that much

[glossy rose]

oh sick i have champ track bracers on with a socket and worried i’d be stuck with them forever

[fickle garden]

Ahhh there it is xd

[thorn plover]

Goes above the weekly cap

Literally a m+ vault reroll

Gg

[bright swift]

might coin dragons

[proven phoenix]

for what

[bright swift]

don't have gloves or 2nd trinket

[sharp forge]

what is the best use case sceneario of potion of recklesness

[bright swift]

so it's 50% chance for something I can use

Chimaerus is 1/4

M+ ilvl is dogshit

[sharp forge]

during tranq? ramp before tranq or after tranq ?

[proven phoenix]

coin alleria man

wdym

[thorn plover]

Cloak too

[bright swift]

I have that one

I took that from my vault this week

[thorn plover]

Doesn't remove it from loot pool til you roll it

[proven phoenix]

im just coining alleria for neck trinket

[bright swift]

Well yeah

but you might not reclear

we very likely aren't

[gentle nova]

We aint reclearing anything

[lavish thistle]

Any idea what might be causing the following issue: on multiple bosses on my resto druid Tree of Life shows as off cooldown but I cant press it. On action bars and in CDM. I dont have an active Tree of Life when it's happening. For some reason happens almost every pull on Paladins and Lura.

[bright swift]

Doing 5 bosses for vault is for sure worth

[half timber]

my dumbass clicked the link not knowing its just a screenshot smh

[gentle nova]

Its dying next week

[bright swift]

you hope

[gentle nova]

Unhinged 7 day raid week

[bright swift]

what

[gentle nova]

[bright swift]

We are the most ethical guild in the world

3 days with 0 overtime ever

[gentle nova]

I want 3 days

Unfortunately most na 3 day suck

[fickle garden]

not wrong

[stiff pollen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIwHuLU43g8 can you still stack reforestation pre pull like in the start of the vid?

[bright swift]

no

[thorn plover]

Official notes released. Brace for impact

I expect a flood of "is this a buff" any moment

[bright swift]

[oak garnet]

Owl weave hype

[sinful summit]

verdancy feels a bit redundant with the new everbloom

same thing but less targets and more restricted area

[main timber]

Oh you mean in terms of design space?

You might be right but it's a small issue really

And power-wise they will mesh well since they both synergize with talents you'll now take

[proven phoenix]

remember df s1 verdancy

before the 9 nerfs

[bright swift]

@cyan minnow should add verdancy to photo / apex 4

[plain marsh]

S1 Verdancy and protector of the pack my beloveds

[proven phoenix]

true....

[sharp needle]

resto buffed via mw flat nerf

[thorn plover]

Resto on top

[frigid glen]

which frames you guys using ? danderframe doesnt support the targeted spells anymore ? its bs..

[main timber]

I use Grid2 but the targeting thing isn't Danders fault. Blizzard just removed it from the game

[proven phoenix]

you should use grid2 as well

[sharp needle]

i've been a gridder since original wrath and she's finally having her moment

[pastel marsh]

instead of being 85% of all keys resto can be 95% of all keys now

pog!

[sharp needle]

mashallah

[haughty ibex]

can someone please explain how to heal vexamus to me like im a 12yo

i cannot for my life do it on an 18 like it’s a skill issue by me 100%

but i genuinely can’t

[proven phoenix]

u just need support from other people

[sacred wasp]

first mana bombs you top them normally, second one is an overlap with astral fissure, so assign accordingly

[proven phoenix]

if someone doesnt have at least a small defensive for the overlap they are dead

[dense lantern]

people need to press defensives on orbs

[proven phoenix]

no matter what you do

[dense lantern]

and overlaps

[haughty ibex]

even on solo orbs i lowkey struggle

orbs + aoe my Aug died 2x

[cyan minnow]

wym?

[haughty ibex]

even with ib on him

[dense lantern]

ns + rejuv

[proven phoenix]

aug has 2 charges of wall and zephyr

[dense lantern]

convoke for overlap

[bright swift]

verdancy is always only in those 2

so it should be added to their values

[dense lantern]

mend someone after the hit

[haughty ibex]

i legit can’t heal in time + i need ho bear and ifeel handicapped

[dense lantern]

put a rej

but it's a hard boss ngl

[haughty ibex]

mhm taking notes

[proven phoenix]

the way I do it if I think im not going to get one shot by the mana bomb itself dropping is to just bear last second

[haughty ibex]

idk ill eventually try again but its starting to freak like i peaked

[proven phoenix]

on the overlap I try and rotate personals/bear as much as I can but its kind of on other people to live

[viral forge]

anyone got any idea why all of these trinkets (excluding ribbon) are simming higher for me than gaze despite the trinket list being ribbon + gaze bis?

[proven phoenix]

like aug for example

with zephyr and 2 scales charges

they should never die

[dense lantern]

they have rescue too

[cyan minnow]

but then the verdancy module would just be double counting? i don’t get what you mean

[sacred wasp]

rescue is not a shield anymore iirc

[dense lantern]

also in an 18 I would expect people to save pots for overlap

[haughty ibex]

how does that help?

[proven phoenix]

rescue isnt a shield anymore

[haughty ibex]

i don’t think it’s shield no more

[dense lantern]

oh derp

nvm

mb

[proven phoenix]

twin guardians has been reworked yeah

[main timber]

Those trinkets are close in value, and upgrade finder is based on your current gear - not a generic set like the trinket chart

[haughty ibex]

whenever someone healthpot i feel like a failure

[sacred wasp]

iirc that fights on a 30s rotation so i usually plan the overlaps to be convoke - >group defensive + ns -> convoke -> etc

[sacred wasp]

gotta use the whole buffalo

[proven phoenix]

algethar is unironically the hardest key in the rotation right now

[haughty ibex]

fairs that’s what i had planned in my head too but it went wrong

[proven phoenix]

awful tight timer

cringe bosses

cringe trash

[hardy junco]

Do you play iwth MiniCC?

[viral forge]

makes sense. i should still be aiming for gaze + ribbon ideally though? assuming i can get bis everything else

[haughty ibex]

ye legit not a moment to breathe

[dense lantern]

idk just did a 15 and it felt free

[haughty ibex]

yes

[dense lantern]

I believe you

but we almost ++ ed it

idk

[haughty ibex]

timer is super tight

[main timber]

Yeah, Heart of Wind is also competitive

[sacred wasp]

ok 15 is

[dense lantern]

sure its a 15

but

[viral forge]

got it, thanks 🙏

[haughty ibex]

my 17 was like 30 seconds off but we had 2 deaths

[sacred wasp]

it's difficult on the group as a whole compared to other dungeons where they're more healer difficult

magisters and spire are nightmares for the healer but if u live the timer is free

[haughty ibex]

idk i feel like all bosses are healer difficult lowkey

in aa

[dense lantern]

idk

[sacred wasp]

yeah but the trash is dense and the timer is tight which adds difficulty fr everyone else

[haughty ibex]

i mean last boss now is the best part imo and i used to hate it the most

[dense lantern]

1st and last boss do nothing

[haughty ibex]

it lowkey hits 1st boss

[dense lantern]

idk did they rework it?

im sorry im talking about experience from df but

[haughty ibex]

but idk i played with Aug and stupid dh that wasn’t in meta during the add spawn

so it lasted hours for no reason

[hardy junco]

Thing is with AA vexa, every 2nd bomb has overlap yea, 1st one all should have defensive for it. If they used it for the regular bomb only they failed and might risk dying, which is on them. Best case is that they use defensives for 1st overlap, and if someone messes up you got ironbark for that person, and barkskin yourself or bearform. I always save convoke for that part tho

[dense lantern]

because i did it only as a 15 here

[pulsar kettle]

1st boss is piss if dps arent asleep

[median yarrow]

Hey guys random question, is there anywhere I can post a log for review?

Trying to help my friend improve her healing (she asked me) but I don’t have much experience on resto Druid this season and I feel like she’s just getting out healed by the other two healers we have

[dense lantern]

but iirc they didnt change it and 1st boss still does nothing

[pulsar kettle]

4th boss is either piss or ww3

[dense lantern]

you just get an aoe and have like 40s to heal it

[hardy junco]

aug can spec more defensivly which they should in AA

[sacred wasp]

it does nothing until you reach the damage check and then it's rough

[dense lantern]

in DF I was doing AA +25 with no heal until vex

[haughty ibex]

yes yes that makes sense to me on paper, i legit also felt struggling healing solo bombs tho

[pulsar kettle]

df aug diff

[haughty ibex]

i mean they aren’t os yet so is not that big deal, people press defs there for no reason

[dense lantern]

no well crawth did no damage at the time

[bright swift]

Sure or remove it

merge

[pulsar kettle]

depends on the tank

[sacred wasp]

yeah on crawth you could cheese it and los near the btotom lol

[dense lantern]

now idk if my healer is bad or crawth slaps

[pulsar kettle]

pwar was scared of crawth

[hearty scarab]

I saw some people comparing grid2 and Dander frames, what makes grid2 better ?

[hardy junco]

yea, i usually throw my LB on the lowest hp/squishiest target with full hots and struggle with the others

[proven phoenix]

the last 45 seconds to a minute of crawth are hard

[haughty ibex]

slaps everyone including tank 😭😭

[proven phoenix]

last 2 screeches with the fire debuff going

and you're getting pushed around the entire time

[dense lantern]

but ye I can believe it

[haughty ibex]

tysm everyone for the advices tho

[dense lantern]

but yeah imho at this point you also need to start paying a lot of attention to minicc

to see if people have defs available

and heal only the ones that really do need healing

[haughty ibex]

minicc doesn’t even show 2x Aug defs

[dense lantern]

yeah ikr

[pastel marsh]

i'm thinking of rerolling because for some reason this spec is always triple sssssssss tier, are yall still catweaving after the current buffs or using boomkin?

[haughty ibex]

or dh blur 2x for example

[dense lantern]

unforch

[hardy junco]

@haughty ibex watch vickman on youtube. he rolls out his POV on high keys!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVD5ZBH01no

[dense lantern]

[haughty ibex]

so is bit weird

[dense lantern]

yeye ik

[haughty ibex]

tysm kitten ill def watch

[gentle nova]

The refo module is double counting potential enchantments im pretty sure

[haughty ibex]

@dense lantern also does ur minicc show fkn mage block

cuz mine shows just passive:DDD

[dense lantern]

(im playing mage this season but I'm pretty sure it shows everything except barrier)

or at least it did a week ago

[haughty ibex]

ty maybe is a skill issue by me again

[dense lantern]

idk if the new changes somehow broke something

[onyx fractal]

Yo, who fancies critiquing my mythic Chimerus kill log?

Honestly never felt so bad at resto and would welcome any advice to improve!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DftNB4TLQhcGZv89?fight=last&type=healing&source=51

[hardy junco]

Aug zeph should be saved for 1 aoe tho

[dense lantern]

maybe it shows just ice cold tbh

because I play that instead of block

and my healer sees it

[haughty ibex]

ye that’s what it shows to me

like the passive

i think is ice cold

which never goes on cd

[dense lantern]

nono i mean the 70% dr skill w/e

im pretty sure that one works fine

[hardy junco]

Mages just sucks generally

[haughty ibex]

idk next time i see a shitass mage ill check

[haughty ibex]

!!! louder

[dense lantern]

if you're eu and online feel free to inv me

[haughty ibex]

oh yes tysm send me name pls!

[dense lantern]

Argentes-Silvermoon

[haughty ibex]

im on my shaman rn but same shit

[dense lantern]

idk if you can invite like this

[haughty ibex]

are u alli or horde?

[dense lantern]

i'll dm its easier

[haughty ibex]

wait im a noob

[hardy junco]

Do mages still have 30 sec absorb Shield?

[proven phoenix]

yes

barrier

but its not much

[onyx fractal]

Is it simply that I’m not throwing enough rejuvenations out?

Im comparing to other Rduids and can see that I’m doing way less rejuvenating….is that it?

[hardy junco]

How are they so damn squishyyyyy

[pulsar kettle]

because they went from 9 defensives to 2

[hardy junco]

3

Alter time is MEGA

[haughty ibex]

why is no one pressing mirror imgaes too

[hardy junco]

Its gone

[pulsar kettle]

mirror images has no dr component.

its purely cosmetic

[hardy junco]

Only threat reduction

[thorn plover]

Is this a mage discord now? Been away 5 mins

[haughty ibex]

really

[hardy junco]

We trying to figure out how to keep them alive

[haughty ibex]

i was clueless wow

[thorn whale]

You're just not clicking buttons

[proven phoenix]

the only major defensive mage has is ice cold

barrier is piss and is more useful for the snare break these days

[thorn plover]

Remember when mages were invincible

[hardy junco]

Yea 3 months ago

[proven phoenix]

@haughty ibex alter is actually very useful for mana bombs

the bomb explodes > they drop low > instantly alter back to full

[onyx fractal]

Thanks for replying, can you help a tad more?

I parsed 5 on that kill and I want to improve

[proven phoenix]

and the explosion can never one shot them

[haughty ibex]

ur so right

[thorn plover]

Find the common mistakes link in the pins and start there, it will help a lot. Then come back with questions after that 🙂

[proven phoenix]

but ye

point is vexamus is just hard

biggest pain point of that key

[thorn whale]

What makes vexamus hard

[haughty ibex]

i didnt have mage in grp but they refuse to press alter time 99% of the time

[proven phoenix]

and people health potting is normal and expected man its not some slight to your honor

[thorn whale]

heal checks or

[haughty ibex]

everything 💔

[proven phoenix]

its more of an hp/defensive check than hps check tbh

[hardy junco]

Play it with 1 DK, then u got 1 less to heal

[onyx fractal]

Okidoke

[thorn whale]

no clue i haven't pushed at all this season

[proven phoenix]

the boss has an overlap where he casts mana bomb thats a giga dot, it explodes for 80% of everyones hp bar and 2 seconds later he casts another knock that hits people for 60% of their hp bar

so u just instantly die if you're not ready

[haughty ibex]

i was playing with dk and still struggled

thats why i feel like is a skill issue

[dense lantern]

half of them probably have the automatic one btw

because its on the wowhead build

[haughty ibex]

but he also didnt shield catch bombas before the explosion which i feel like would be the best strat? idk

[fleet void]

quick question: What is the most usefull 3rd item to craft?

[proven phoenix]

any bad slot

jewellery is good

[fleet void]

i thought about Neck

[proven phoenix]

yeah I would do neck if u arent getting a mythic alleria neck any time soon

[fleet void]

yeah i am never going to have this 😄 thanks for the answer 🙂

[haughty ibex]

wat was that pvp neck someone was talking about?

[proven phoenix]

its a mastery heavy low haste neck you can get from a pvp quest

this thing

[haughty ibex]

ohh i see

ty

[thorn whale]

which color first on crawth

answer fast

[pulsar kettle]

wind

[proven phoenix]

always wind

fire is really rough to heal after a while

[sharp needle]

check their talents and tell them to take the auto snap, they're all just copying the talent build from wowhead which assumes you actually hit abilities

[steady sierra]

Thanks for the tips but I posted the wrong logs lol. Anyone wanna roast me or suggestions for improvements?! Feels like Im doing something wrong, especially with regrowth accountingfor so litte of total healing

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:jbHVTmwyWFracpMz?fight=37&type=healing

[thorn whale]

what do we BL

[gentle nova]

Anyone know what guild does the healer assign tech for the people that go down in lura

I mean lura

[thorn whale]

Northern sky?

or what do u mean

[pulsar kettle]

when fire phase starts

[gentle nova]

What guild has the healers carry the crystals in p1 so they dont go down

[pulsar kettle]

like when hes stunned

[thorn whale]

ah so u clear until you have BL again or

[pulsar kettle]

if you bl first pull surely its up

[thorn whale]

do you go left normally or

we went right

[pulsar kettle]

nah right

did you bl tree boss

[thorn whale]

first pull

[pulsar kettle]

idk then we always have bl back for fire phase

[thorn whale]

think it was like 3 mins

[sacred wasp]

yeah it's fire phase or pull immediately after crawth

you have some leeway though since its a 30m timer

[wise galleon]

Oh another crafting question because im such an annoyance:

Has this been simmed in any way?

EDIT: im blind i found it

[dense lantern]

only in keys that matter probs

in my keys i'm like always 4m short

[sacred wasp]

yeah the crawth red BL didn't start lining up until 17s last week

[dense lantern]

yeah it's 3/4m, maybe it aligns in a 18+ or smth

[thorn whale]

yeah im playing piss keys rn

[dense lantern]

in piss keys you either go left and pull a pack

or you bl the trash before vex

and dont bl crawth

[sacred wasp]

in piss keys ur 2nd lust is a piss lust bc u just lust lass boss to save time

[dense lantern]

yeah truth is it doesnt matter and I just lust on cd

it is what it is

[sacred wasp]

just pulled as many of those snake things and lusted

[thorn whale]

Got asked to play 18-19's in the weekend so gotta play a bit b4

Cause rn I am fking clueless lol

[cursive pagoda]

is resto hard to learn?

[dense lantern]

m+ or raid

or both

[cursive pagoda]

just m+

[thorn whale]

I would say it's not hard to learn either way, but just very hard to fully master

less hard in m+

[dense lantern]

would disagree

but we tend to do that a lot

[thorn whale]

Kinda our thing at this point isnt it

[dense lantern]

idk m+ has a lot of stuff going on and resto is probably the more complete healer at this point

lots of different ways to heal

[mortal fjord]

Is it a nerf in m+ content ? https://www.wowhead.com/news/official-patch-12-0-5-development-notes-systems-activities-class-changes-381256

[thorn whale]

hmm I just think it's more forgiving

[pulsar kettle]

is buff.

[thorn whale]

unless you're talking oneshot level of keys

[main timber]

If you're in the 8-15 key range you can mostly succeed just by pressing a lot of buttons

Which isn't true of some other healing specs

You also get priority invites

I'd definitely recommend Resto to any healer that wants to focus on M+, even if they are brand new to healing

[thorn whale]

Monk is also great rn

[dense lantern]

Oh yeah sure

[main timber]

Resto is good every season too (whether meta or not) so they'll have a spec they can always succeed on

[dense lantern]

which ones btw?

I would've said pres but idk what others

[thorn whale]

I was struggling on my 248 disc

[main timber]

Pres is the one I'm thinking of primarily, Disc is also a bit of a mess right now

[dense lantern]

ye fair

[hardy junco]

how big % buff does our changes generate?

[cursive pagoda]

yeah im leveling from level 10 so ill get a chance to learn the basics as i go

[haughty ibex]

compared to?

[cursive pagoda]

but yeah it definetly has a lot going on

[thorn whale]

raid

[gentle nova]

Between 6 and 7

[haughty ibex]

what makes it more forgiving

im genuenly wondering as someone who never touched myth raiding

[thorn whale]

akll good im in key so answering slow

[haughty ibex]

ye tyt im just curious:D

[true jungle]

Im kind of sad they changed everbloom from hitting all allies

was looking forward to that lol

[sacred wasp]

everbloom?

once or twice

[plain steeple]

Yeah +100k hps would have been fair.

[true jungle]

I lasted what, like a week on the ptr?

I saw the datamining post on wowhead about it and was hyped lol

[gentle nova]

67

[sacred wasp]

67

[plain steeple]

It has a very well place in our kit now.

[thorn whale]

abundance stacks doesn't matter in m+, and if u manage them poorly in raid ur healing is ass

[safe glacier]

im curious as to how more crit and less mana usage doesnt matter in m+

[sacred wasp]

rejuv the pets so u can hit 12

[bright swift]

[gentle nova]

No mw

[sacred wasp]

its more in the sense that you dont play around abundance to make your healing work

[gentle nova]

😹

[dense lantern]

you dont track abundance because it doesnt matter

you dont play around it

if people need healing and you need abundance

you will naturally have it

[sacred wasp]

it's just a byproduct of you ramping rejuvs for mechanics

[dense lantern]

you're never going to go "Oh damn I better have 5 abundance stacks for this ability better prepare"

[arctic swan]

Hey again guys ! I just installed m33k aura. Are there already made wa for rdru that can be exported as on wago before? (idk if i can ask this here)

[grand herald]

I just made all my WAs custom

You kinda have to be aware of the limitations of it with the midnight changes

[sharp needle]

anyone have a clean m+-oriented minicc profile they can drop? mine's rough

[unique sedge]

Im watching vrocas' pov at crown, does anybody know what addon is this?

[spark river]

Hottracker

[unique sedge]

Thanks!

[balmy spire]

Really want to 3 heal this boss >_>

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/tKw2fRrBzTAc3gxd?fight=17&type=healing&source=7

[spark river]

Its easy

[balmy spire]

i know

overheal is like jesus...

[spark river]

Bench the hpal

Tell him to go ret idk

[snow umbra]

How close are the Apex and non-Apex builds currently?

[main timber]

They're like 2-3% different

[snow umbra]

In which ones favour?

[bright swift]

yes

[balmy spire]

kotg atm

[haughty ibex]

i mean is just meaningless in m+ cuz u will have it up, but yeah is smth u dont play around so fairs

i mean resto mastery alone makes it more forgiving in m+ so i get it

i guess is different kinds of difficulty:D

[reef locust]

Is there any way to manage Runed Spellbreaker's Runic Glaive in Terrace or is it an hps check?

[granite sparrow]

I wouldn't say they are meaningless in m+, if you know a hard pack/mechanic is coming in 30 secs you can and should prevent proccing it in cooldown

imo ofc

[whole horizon]

hps check

[proven phoenix]

the first target can meld or invis it so neither debuff gets applied

but otherwise it is just healing yeah

[sacred wasp]

the hallway of hell

[reef locust]

I hit issues when 2 glaive casts overlapped for 4 debuffs

[sacred wasp]

i save recklessness pot for that pull bc you have to whack a mole as fas as you can

[reef locust]

But I think my DPS were also standing in the shield slam circles

[sacred wasp]

it's not worth dispelling if u have high haste

[unique sedge]

and do u know how do i make it pink like that

[sacred wasp]

this doesn't apply during the boss tho right

[proven phoenix]

no

[sacred wasp]

i was trying to do that during boss and it wasnt working

ty

[obsidian pivot]

Bark the squishy target. Make sure the dispell and glaive aren’t on the same time or they are dead. People should be using whatever defensives they have but yes. HPS check.

[reef locust]

Holy fire uninterruptible too, rip that single pull thats a tough one

[proven phoenix]

yes you just lifebloom one target, you dont need healing yourself

and you heal the other 2

rotate cds

[sacred wasp]

i think that pull and WR first pull might be highest hps requirement this season

[obsidian pivot]

Was tank pulling the whole hallway? Mine usually breaks it into two pulls with the second one being w lust

I think double subjugator in seat is still scarier to heal. Esp if u don’t have cheese classes to remove the snare

[reef locust]

Im finding trash more difficult than bosses because their damage windows feel less predictable so I cant ramp as cleanly

@proven phoenix Btw after the tips you gave me last time I cleared a 12 sunreach with no healing problems

tyvm

[proven phoenix]

good work

[hexed pagoda]

what do you guys think about the Thalassian Phoenix Torque neck?

[main timber]

There is no reason to ever craft it

[thorn plover]

I love seeing people improve after given advice here 🥰

[main timber]

Almost famously bad item

[hexed pagoda]

so you craft the waist with Arcanoweave Lining

[main timber]

The slot is flexible but yes to the lining

[plain steeple]

Wait 6 days and it’s the other way round.

[bright swift]

real

[cerulean stratus]

how was beloren

we killed alleria today

wtf u slapped intermission

[bright swift]

ye intermission is so good for us

https://youtu.be/7sQpJ55tTPw

[flint void]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wmfQLHDG7vZxdcXR?fight=last&type=healing&source=16 quickie: what could i have done better

[thorn plover]

More regrowth, more swiftmend. Both are quite low cpm

[flint void]

the basics are all there. swiftmends were used, lifebloom had the uptime, abundance had a good stackcount.

the only thing "bad" is the tranq placement, but that's out of my hands, i was told where to slap it

[haughty ibex]

get grp with only nightelfs

[flint void]

i was looking at the https://wowanalyzer.com/report/wmfQLHDG7vZxdcXR/11-Mythic+Chimaerus,+the+Undreamt+God+-+Kill+(6:27)/16-Yealuneve/standard and the ABC's are fine?

[cerulean stratus]

hmm

what do you even drop to get apex next week

[thorn plover]

Swiftmend count isn't terrible but you can cast it a bit more.
Regrowth count is low..rejuv:regrowth should be 1:1 or so

[cerulean stratus]

photo embrace r 2 points

synthesis 3?

[scenic bluff]

Hey yall, do these changes coming in the 12.0.5 patch give any hope to the DoC dream?

[spark river]

Say the line bart

[thorn plover]

In meme level keys yes

[scenic bluff]

wonder how far you could take it lol

[thorn plover]

Your overall cpm is good, but you're pressing too much rejuv and damage spells

[flint void]

you're still not going caster regardless of how much they buff the damage. and it means that the current raid talent build will change from our current build, they're basically forcing our hand to take the apex. that's at least what i was told

[thorn plover]

You have around 2.5cpm of damage spells

And a mana pot

[solemn flint]

for crafting - what type of weapon is best? Archon differs from wowhead/icyveins

[thorn plover]

That's not quite right on the caster part

[thorn plover]

An intellect 2h

[solemn flint]

all the same?

[thorn plover]

They're all the same

Only difference is cost

[flint void]

I was using the master shapeshifter to go meow to get the heart of the wild to do a finisher for the 12500 mana.

[thorn plover]

You shouldn't need to take MS at all on that fight

If you push less rejuv more regrowth you will not have mana issues

[flint void]

i didn't have mana-issues regardless, it's a personal interest of wanting master shapeshifter, cuz it's fun.

[thorn plover]

So you'd rather not heal? Weird choice

[flint void]

but that one talent doesn't explain a 9 ilvl parse

[thorn plover]

The lack of regrowth does

[vocal musk]

Hi, when we play with [Nature's Bounty] talent, let's say that I have regrowth on the party (M+), if I cast [Nature's Swiftness] > Regrowth, will it echoes the +95% aditionnal healing on the +20% healing from [Nature's Bounty] ?

[analog skiff]

do we spam regr even when the raid is topped but we have 12 stacks of abundance

[flint void]

when the raid is topped off and there's not that much to do i was throwing a rip/rake and/or some rejuvs to keep at 12 stacks

[thorn plover]

You could instead spread regrowth hots for the next time they aren't topped

We aren't reactive healers

[tough portal]

Yes it's 20% of what the original Regrowth cast did

[spark river]

Yes

Spread the hot

They cost zero mana on high abundance

[snow umbra]

Can you guys see any issues here? I felt my CPM was good ~24 Rejuv ~18 Regrowth & LB uptime was 99%. But I still got a grey parse 🙁 https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BCNJ2pz1dDKxjtVg?fight=last&type=healing

[rigid mirage]

If you are brand new and have 7 sparks but got the haste mastery hero off hand from raid would you still craft the 2 hand mythic staff?

[tough portal]

Yes

[rigid mirage]

Ight ty my guy

[empty ruin]

Heya o7 Do you know any danders frame useful for raid UI by any chance ? c:

[thorn plover]

It's good. Lots using it. Lots also using grid2

[thorn plover]

You just got out sniped by playing with that healing comp lol. 60% OH

[empty ruin]

Sooo, do you know any UI ? 😅 You didn't answer x)

[thorn plover]

Idk what you're asking