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charred ruin
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so whats changed with the patch? Oo

plain steeple
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No patch yet

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12.0.5 will be live Next week.

gentle nova
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what was the uncapped myth crests u could get

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the delve boss shit and the cracked keystone from delves?

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thats it?

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or am i missing something else

tropic aspen
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hey everyone, is there a rough haste % to hit before moving to mastery?

gentle nova
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no

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i think stonebark is buffing lb bloom

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im crine

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new raid cd press ironabrk on self

boreal karma
gentle nova
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GGs

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with ws

boreal karma
thick glen
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have hero tier pants and 2x 250 trinkets, do i just take heart of wind or myth pants?

boreal karma
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GGs are still 4%+ heal or not

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actually not without wild synthesis i think

green shard
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Is it important to line up reforestation with convoke? Or should I just ignore this and send swiftmend on cd and hope that it aligns with convoke?

gentle nova
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that was with wild synth

half timber
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i have to be cursed bruh, my alts get Heart of Wind so easily, and my rdruid doesnt get it for the last WEEKS wtf VerySadCat

gentle nova
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so 3.4% without wild synth

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RH is 2-3

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not sure if stonebark is buffing it tho

boreal karma
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you are fully stacked on yourself

gentle nova
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oh real

boreal karma
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its really just stonebark bloom value

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and i doubt its beating GG's

green shard
boreal karma
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GGs is very very good 1 point node

gentle nova
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juicy lbs

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thats with 5 treants after convoke

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with kotg

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gg

boreal karma
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GG kotg is dead to me

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now ws is my best friend

boreal karma
gentle nova
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i dont know

boreal karma
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shouldnt 5 trees be same healing increase

gentle nova
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i think it should be more

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XD

boreal karma
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ye

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same

gentle nova
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well

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its not

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apparently

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i didnt change anything just the hero tree

smoky sail
boreal karma
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but that shouldnt be the deal breaker or

boreal karma
hardy junco
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the fk

gentle nova
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non bark blooms are 21k

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with just an implant

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oh and forestwalk was active on both

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thats 0 effort bloom

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just double rejuv and a SM for implant

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no forestwalk, no regrowth hot

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heals the same as 5 treant lb

boreal karma
gentle nova
boreal karma
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ahhh

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true

abstract tulip
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My new solution to help fellow druids is to just swiftmend on cd regardless of health just push the button. Everything else falls in place

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I wish I was able to comprehend that a month ago

proven phoenix
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yes

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swiftmend is really strong

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use it as much as possible

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both swiftmend and wild growth

abstract tulip
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That’s all I changed this week and went from gray parse to blue

gentle nova
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sm is just gonna do 300k healing every time

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this shit is op

hardy junco
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4 CPM WG is good?

proven phoenix
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its alright, you can have it way higher

rustic coyote
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Which talent between VI and prosperity works better in m+? I see many high keys logs going VI, though I found the more access to sm + rg saving many people mistakes

abstract tulip
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less stressful for me to play VI so thats why i swapped to it. i tried both

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and i use less mana

proven phoenix
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I like VI

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but I think prosp is very playable

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preference mostly tbh

violet tendon
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I feel like my healing is less than par in raids

abstract tulip
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Oh zyanne you were me! The secret is use swiftmend on cd even if full health just push the button

proven phoenix
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yes but if your healing is awful then theres more than just that

abstract tulip
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There’s a bunch of other things but I’m telling you that’s the secret

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Lifebloom yourself and swiftmend yourself

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Just try it in raid focus on those 2 things and see what happens

agile cedar
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Has anyone here used Viserio Cooldowns with Northern Sky Tools before?

coral pagoda
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Should I upgrade my 285 2h staff to a 289 one with haste/mastery, or upgrade my 276 set legs to 289?

abstract tulip
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Our guild tried but it’s a lot of set up it counts down the seconds until your cd is up

gaunt willow
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With prosperity we have a very quick ramp up with wild growth > double sotf > rejuvs to blanket your group constantly and it also costs very little mana

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I quite like it now

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But yeah you gotta press swiftmend on cooldown

abstract tulip
tawny laurel
tawny laurel
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Don't I want to eventually get myth weapon?

agile cedar
abstract tulip
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That ring has haste mastery it balances out your crit neck

abstract tulip
tawny laurel
abstract tulip
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Oh weird

agile cedar
coral pagoda
abstract tulip
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I would go for tier, have you checked what QE says?

fervent mica
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you can craft a 2nd slot for embellish and use the myth weapon

abstract tulip
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We probably don’t have many opportunities for mythic weapons what boss does it come from? Might be rare item

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I’d still see what the sim says

fervent mica
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wouldn't pass on one of the good weapons... you're gonna want it

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the sim will say its bad until you put another embellish in to replace the one on crafted

abstract tulip
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Ah so you’d have to edit the piece before or have the piece for it to pick it up

fervent mica
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you can just add it the same way you add any other item, but yeah

gentle nova
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1 TV point is just 10% hps loss huh

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what the fuck is the tree gonna become

bright swift
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no way it's 10% man

gentle nova
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its 10

bright swift
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proof

fallen dune
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Hey guys. Is everbloom a good chunk of the healing done in m+? Can the changes be seen as a nerf?

gentle nova
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well its not 10 if your rejuv cpm is 30

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ok maybe 10 is too much

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but 8 is looking like

simple rivet
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should i take legs and craft chest or take the chest?

tawny laurel
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If I have 2 embelished crafts I can craft one more without embelishment, right?

coral pagoda
proven phoenix
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take chest

bright swift
proven phoenix
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you can catalyse any legs

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you wont see a chest like that often

simple rivet
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alright

abstract tulip
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Grats!

gentle nova
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  • mastery uptime
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  • more rg healing
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and more regrowth healing in general

polar lichen
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how do i add items in qe live?

rustic bay
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can the cdm not track lifebloom duration on allies

hearty cargo
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It can

rustic bay
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mine doesn't seem to want to

gentle nova
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so like

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theres no option

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we either play phosy + apex 4 and 2 min convoke

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or we play phosy + apex 3

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or apex 4

hearty cargo
boreal karma
gentle nova
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tv is too good if you play around rg cpm

robust crest
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what if we leave embrace ?

gentle nova
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the tree is cursed

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you can play embrace if you got 3 extenral innervates

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then u gain 5% hps

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XD

boreal karma
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i dont see it tbh

bright swift
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where he only regrowhts

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and never rejuvs except with sotf

boreal karma
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he can go 2 min voke then

round hornet
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guys what do you think, is it hero vaelgor's or myth chest? Hero chest rn and champion heart of the wind + hero void suffuser

boreal karma
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i dotn think its worth xd

plain steeple
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The Regrowth spam is providing incredible amounts of overheal.

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This overheal is far higher than the overheal of Everblooms smart healing for example.

boreal karma
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but does he just always rg if rejuv above 6 then or

bright swift
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yes

plain steeple
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I usually have around 60% overheal on Regrowth.

boreal karma
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yea that sounds cringe

plain steeple
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All the time

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You very rarely drop to 6.

boreal karma
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if you only spam reg you drop

plain steeple
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No

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Rejuvs last long enough.

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You can fit in 2 SMs into the duration of rejuv.

gentle nova
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the playstyle is cool

plain steeple
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There are several builds around WS, kotg and different spec talents that should all be viable next patch.

hardy junco
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but is it good?

plain steeple
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The differences seem to be very minor on paper.

proper ferry
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hi

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how to make it sugguest only 1 item pls

mystic crater
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See the item on your gear that has the dotted line?

robust crest
mystic crater
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That’s the suggestion

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The bottom screenshot is alternative picks from other options and how much hps you’d lose by switching to it

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But yeah what lukou said regarding the other dotted line

proper ferry
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but both are from the vault it didnt detect that a head can be transformed to tier set

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so i added it by myself

proper ferry
robust crest
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Yeah when you add an item it thinks you have both ^^

proper ferry
errant haven
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can't you click gear and "convert to vault" on added items ?

boreal karma
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then it wont pick 2

proper ferry
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true

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thank you all ❤️

inner minnow
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can you sim talent combos as healer?

mystic crater
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Simming for healers doesn’t exist really

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Even qelive isn’t a sim, just based off a model

inner minnow
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How do people figure out which talents do more hps then?

mystic crater
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They do math and try things out

simple rivet
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double arcano is save stronger than 1x arcono + hunt bc qe tells me hunt + arcano is in dng and raid 0,15% better, or is the buff forn ally the important part?

mystic crater
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Look at logs

robust crest
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and some technical math with wowanalyzer

mystic crater
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Which is looking at logs, technically hah

robust crest
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nicer visuality 😄

soft dagger
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There is no haste/mastery belt right?

simple rivet
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sadly no

proven phoenix
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craft a belt

soft dagger
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i got 4 spark left, belt and one hand weapon craft will net me more stats than craft a 2h staff(my belt is still champion and current weapon is 276 hero track)

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looks like its the way to go

inner minnow
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Any1 able to coach on resto druid healing? Trying to learn and figure out how to avoid going oom but also heal more and after looking at a bunch of stuff Im not sure what Im doing wrong

urban kestrel
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does anyone know how to reproduce this bug where sometimes when you die in the darkwell as druid you just come up completely untargettable and invulnerable?

soft dagger
urban kestrel
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for not nefarious purposes of course :^)

inner minnow
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I feel fine healing m+ but I feel like in raid healing I am going oom on some fights really easily ie cosmos while not healing as much as other healers

vapid lance
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you just have to conserve mana in raid.

soft dagger
vapid lance
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remember you have your own innervate to play with too

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link your log

inner minnow
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How do you conserve mana while tryin to always ramp. Feels like theres always constant dmg spikes going so Im trying to ramp prior to it

vapid lance
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or a raid boss where you're going oom

hardy junco
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@inner minnow heart of the wild frenzy into rip every 2 min

boreal karma
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without any logs we can just give general advice

inner minnow
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raid build top hps isnt using cat hero talent they are using grove

vapid lance
robust crest
boreal karma
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its just a quick 12.500 mana regenration every 2 mins

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with Master shapeshifter together

vapid lance
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did you press innervate?

inner minnow
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Yea I try to use it on cd, first around 80% mana and then after before dmg is going out when im trying to ramp

balmy spire
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jesus 180 rejus

inner minnow
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Some pulls I forget to use it as much as I should tho

boreal karma
spark river
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Let the man rejuv

vapid lance
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your using way too many rejuvs

balmy spire
boreal karma
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swiftmend is better in rejuv generation then rejuv itself

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its very very important to just spam swiftmend on cd

inner minnow
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from my understanding you want to get as many rejuvs on people before you use anything that procs grove guardians for ramp to do more healing

hardy junco
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think like this

boreal karma
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swiftmend and wg is on cd buttons almost always

hardy junco
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every 15 sec swiftmend gives you a bunch of free rejuvs

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thats like a lot of mana saved

spark river
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Abundance is the biggest mana save

boreal karma
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and you save mana

soft dagger
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one tip for the LB up time, you can just make a macro to LB yourself. It's much easier to keep LB uptime that way. I went from 60-70% LB to 95% or more up time with just that macro.

boreal karma
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swiftmend + rejuv = 8750 mana while rejuv + rejuv + rejuv = 15750 mana

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and you have 1 less gcd

soft dagger
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also use @thorn plover 's lifebloom addon, it will aleart you when your LB is about to go out

hard bear
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Does anybody know if there's a way to not have symbiotic relationship showing on your tank at all times with the new changes with danders being only able to us direct api?

vapid lance
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@boreal karma are you streaming your progression ?

boreal karma
inner minnow
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a macro to cast LB on yourself?

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#showtooltip
/cast [@self] Lifebloom?

velvet cloak
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@ player

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You are player

pale tapir
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@next helm

vapid lance
pale tapir
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oh fuck

velvet cloak
boreal karma
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@next helm

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lets all ping him

inner minnow
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shit you right

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xD

vapid lance
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@next helm

inner minnow
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lol

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the 1 guy with name player

next helm
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😭

pale tapir
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mythic gaze and heroic ribbon with leech

vapid lance
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that poor guy

pale tapir
boreal karma
vapid lance
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lmfao

hardy canopy
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@mystic snow

inner minnow
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xD

boreal karma
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not sure yet

boreal karma
inner minnow
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@next helm I bet you get pings all the time lmao

pale tapir
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so it's time to pug dreamrift again and take chestplate from vault

vapid lance
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he's typing

pale tapir
vapid lance
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lmfoa

next helm
inner minnow
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What are all the buffs you would recommend to track? Reforestation, abundance any others?

pale tapir
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let's all fix our pings and make him think he's schizophrenic and he didn't get pinged

vapid lance
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holy you have your grid2 back

charred ruin
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whats the haste cap for us ? 😄

boreal karma
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ye its fully back

spark river
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No haste cap

boreal karma
charred ruin
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30 haste 30 mastery

spark river
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too low

inner minnow
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do you guys have any recommendations for low profile/cpu usage addons for raid frames?

boreal karma
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you can go haste keep going

inner minnow
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default blizz are kinda annoying

spark river
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40%+ at least

vapid lance
boreal karma
vapid lance
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was a vibe

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yes please if you could

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❤️

boreal karma
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but i dont support it if it doesnt work with scale or anything

boreal karma
spark river
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@thorn whale It was hero gaze vs myth tier in vault and I took myth tier obviously. Opening only in guardian from now on tbh.

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Myth tier legs

thorn whale
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@spark river

robust crest
spark river
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Stop please

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I still have the trinket from first week

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The glorious crusader shit

thorn whale
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I've gotten head, gaze, stare

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its crazy

boreal karma
thorn whale
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and now im swapping off druid?!?!

torpid cairn
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lies

spark river
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Myth feet from averzian dropped in the first slot which is kinda sad

naive chasm
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My mastery is currently sitting at about 20% and it feels too low when my haste is 30%...

spark river
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It is definitely too low

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Im at 36% mastery

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I ll trade you some for haste

thorn whale
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1190 mastery reporting in

spark river
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damn

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you win

thorn whale
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nvm I had sham buff

spark river
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with flask and buffs i sit at 36% haste 38% mastery

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Which is fine i guess

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But i want >40% haste

thorn whale
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35-41 here

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I need Alleria neck

spark river
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Im crafting neck definitely

thorn whale
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I crafted boots because I just need to get hero crest achiev

spark river
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Im not playing in a good enough guild so stuff from alleria wont drop for half the tier

naive chasm
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What is your ilvl Sola?

spark river
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275 now

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without this weeks craft

thorn whale
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I'm getting alleria neck in next weeks vault its np

naive chasm
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That is same as mine, what is your unbuffed stat rating?

spark river
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32% haste 36% mastery unbuffed

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Dont know real numbers on that tbh

naive chasm
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That seems such a huge amount to me, maybe I have too much vers since some slots in M+ dont have good haste/mastery items

spark river
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I have 0% vers and 7% crit

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I just need to shift some of that mastery to haste

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The paladins ring and pvp neck are screwing me over

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So when I craft the neck its going to be nice

naive chasm
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I will always have some vers and crit due to tier set

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But I think vers is fine for M+

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Just need to get rid of crit...

long karma
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Do any1 in here have any tips for how to deal with QELIVE sims ?

marsh prism
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what are you specifically looking to understand about it

long karma
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Does it take in regards that a tier piece is in the vault, over trinkets or any other gear ?

marsh prism
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yeah it takes everything you feed into it into account, so great vault exclusivity, diminishing returns on stats, tier set, trinket strength, etc

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if you're unsure why you might be getting the result you are you can link your top gear result directly

long karma
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So according to QElive - it wants me to take the trinket

spark river
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Suffuser is massive

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A lot of raw haste

long karma
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But like, its an upgraded hero track gloves -> myth track

errant fractal
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I've simmed but i got skyreach chest and a back with leech that i can cataylst both on mythic do i take back and craft a chest for overall power?

marsh prism
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its not one of the big two but it's not insignificant

marsh prism
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chest is in fact our offpiece

errant fractal
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Yes 2haste lower than nexus one

long karma
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Oh yeah, is vaelgor's trinket still one of the big two ? From what i see, we got 3 trinkets we could use

spark river
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gaze ribbon is big 2

errant fractal
eternal bough
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what to craft if i have weapon mythic and crafted boots ?

marsh prism
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you could but catalyst stats arent amazing for cloak iirc

long karma
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This is the result

marsh prism
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dog thats 92 hps

errant fractal
marsh prism
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youll need to make that call for yourself but i'd take the trinket

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it is a decent trinket

spark river
thorn whale
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if ur raid is clearing salhadar

long karma
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First time playing druid ever, so i know nothing of stat weights and so on

eternal bough
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everything is good only belt bad stats

thorn whale
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and other druids dont need

marsh prism
thorn whale
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healers*

marsh prism
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since its early

errant fractal
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@marsh prism for me isnt it just better overall taking mythic leech back crafting 285 chest tho? over taking the 289 chest

long karma
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Thats true, but like, healers are the last ones to get their gear in raiding

marsh prism
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its probably a competitive alternative

long karma
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sadly

spark river
eternal bough
spark river
eternal bough
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ok ty !

eternal bough
thorn whale
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its more hps yeah

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4 ilvl on wep > darkmoon sigil

eternal bough
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<

long karma
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Ill hold off of taking it for now, then ill see what happens at raid tomorrow

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Thanks for the help bois

spark river
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Hope my guild kills fallen king this week so I can get rid of this glorious crusader shit

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Starting to annoy me at this point

spark river
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thanks unc

thorn whale
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so shit is crazy

marsh prism
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slow down

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enjoy the view..

gentle nova
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nacne were stram

thorn whale
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thanks nance

marsh prism
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but

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no splits this week we are going straight for alleria

gentle nova
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thankgod

marsh prism
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sorry as in after farm. not extending not insane just not doing splits

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i think we literally 1shot dragons rekill and then paladins got nerfed so np

thorn whale
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if we are not on alleria within 2 hours

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of reclear

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muy sad

spark river
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You re sad anyway

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you re on mw duties

junior ginkgo
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Question for the pros, what do you craft this week?

thorn whale
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I'm on rdruid for Alleria

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rest is mw tho

balmy spire
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got the 289 set myth chest atm... usefull to craft hast/mast chest and catalyse the shoulders on heroic?

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stats on that chest are crap >_<

spark river
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you lose intellect if you do that

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lol

balmy spire
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so we wait for vault chest then :/

marsh prism
fervent mica
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if you've already got myth tier chest... drop one of the other bad pieces

thorn whale
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link log noob

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i wanna see

gentle nova
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practicing the

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new meta build

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how did we not catch it

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just messing around

junior ginkgo
spark river
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are you interested in heroic wildstalker apex logs unc

gentle nova
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thouhgths

spark river
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3 points in apex

marsh prism
spark river
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yeah this is ragebait

gentle nova
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i think apex 4 is gonna bne bait

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you use the sm when the raid is full hp

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xdd

spark river
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why are u playing liveliness

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path through embrace then

green shard
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Anyone mind helping me for a sec?

Is it important to line up reforestation with convoke? Or should I just ignore this and send swiftmend on cd and hope that it aligns with convoke?

gentle nova
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cuz i dont wanna cast wg

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i gotta get better at that

spark river
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2% vs 4%

gentle nova
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but then if i do wnana cast wg

naive chasm
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Do crafted weapons have lower secondary stats to make up for the embellishment?

spark river
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should be straightforward

gentle nova
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i would play ms

gentle nova
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= oom

thorn whale
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how much burst healing is apex 4

spark river
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Its more if you have 5 wg cpm

marsh prism
gentle nova
marsh prism
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so for the ilvl the secondaries are what they should b

naive chasm
gentle nova
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20k3 then 10k3*6

marsh prism
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thatd be fucked

gentle nova
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how much is that\

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mathmaticians

thorn whale
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i'm in dungeon dont ask me

marsh prism
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i dont do math

gentle nova
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20.000x3 plus 10000x3x6

thorn whale
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majority of ur sms are gonna be overheal right

gentle nova
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anyone

thorn whale
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but if the burst warrants it

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for the moments that actually matter

hearty cargo
gentle nova
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240khps

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every switfmtned this shit is gettins hot

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gg

thorn whale
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play prosp and ur insane on burst no?

spark river
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Yeah

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Prosp would be insane

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But mana issues then?

gentle nova
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embrace is mana issues

thorn whale
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idk i donte even know the build

gentle nova
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this is prolly the op build

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this is less op

thorn whale
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better cd coverage or nah

gentle nova
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all rounded

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or the other option with prosperity

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maybe that one

thorn whale
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apex4 sounds like too much healing to be giving up no?

spark river
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where is your other point in the bottom row now

hearty cargo
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No reforestation in raid sounds kinda grief

spark river
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im playing 4apex 2 tv and no phosy

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definitely

thorn whale
gentle nova
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most of the time im sending a sm with the raid full hp

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but im at bird

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that fight is like that

thorn whale
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makes sense

junior ginkgo
solemn falcon
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hey new to healing, is keeper of the grove best for both raid and M+?

wise galleon
marsh prism
marsh prism
spark river
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both gaze and ribbon in the same vault should be banned

wise galleon
wise galleon
thorn whale
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are u in raiding guild

marsh prism
#

im a genius tell your friends.

wise galleon
thorn whale
#

ah then yeah

wise galleon
#

but ive done dreamrift mtyhic last week

thorn whale
#

definitely kill first

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if you were in raiding guild there is no shot you get it haha

robust crest
bright swift
#

"guys should I pick my bis trinket from vault?"

spark river
#

debatable

gentle nova
#

phosy is more blooms but 4 is more burst

thorn whale
#

I think you optimize for burst but idk

#

how the fights are

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even if u overheal more

solemn falcon
#

apex or no apex on keeper of the grove for raid?

thorn whale
#

also depends on raid comp ig

marsh prism
solemn falcon
#

anyone?

spark river
#

People are playing both

#

Just look through logs

#

And find the build that works better for you

solemn falcon
#

oh i see

thorn whale
#

@spark river oof

spark river
#

lol

wise galleon
#

btw yesterday i was doing l'ura in hc and there is really nothing to heal, should i go apex for the fight? It probably doesnt matter since it being hc but I really did no damage at all

robust crest
marsh prism
cerulean stratus
#

i got vaelgors in vault

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do i just macro it to convoke

#

its either that or socket

thorn whale
naive chasm
#

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/restoration-druid-pve-healing-mythic-plus-tips#restoration-druid-mythic-rotation I find this point about M+ "rotation" interesting. I do tend to add a lot of extra rejuvs to people right before I know there will be a big burst of damage, that is still the right thing to do surely? Of course I try to make sure as many of them as possible are SotF enhanced but sometimes its not possible

robust crest
marsh prism
spark river
thorn whale
marsh prism
wise galleon
marsh prism
#

all of the notes about sotf, rejuv, and regrowth in that section seem on point

tidal sigil
#

Chest is our off piece right? so haste mastery chest from vault here should be the go or am i stupid?

marsh prism
#

show raid section too

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or else

gentle nova
#

does this look shit

#

looks pretty op to me

thorn whale
#

this feels good tho

clear oracle
#

No PvP neck?

gentle nova
#

noob

thorn whale
#

i'm on monk

gentle nova
#

why u wanna spam sheilungift

clear oracle
#

Heresy

bright swift
naive chasm
thorn whale
tidal sigil
#

Just HC stuff. Sad 2% vorasious enrage wipe...

gentle nova
#

so im playing ms

spark river
#

so go embrace

bright swift
#

you can't go embrace next week lol

spark river
#

you dont need ms

#

trust

marsh prism
bright swift
#

You don't think I need MS on Midnight Falls?

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a 10 min fight?

spark river
#

alright

gentle nova
#

you do

spark river
#

fight dependent

upbeat yarrow
#

would you take those wrists because they have leech?

spark river
#

most of the times you dont need ms

gentle nova
#

but u also need 2 tvs

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like wht is this

spark river
#

oh yeah

marsh prism
spark river
#

regrowth is absolutely busted

bright swift
#

this is a log with 1 TV

naive chasm
#

Btw what is this thing about casting 3 regrowths for rampant growth? I don't remember hearing about that previously in other guides

bright swift
#

exact build we go next week

tidal sigil
bright swift
#

@old pollen my goat

spark river
#

because the lb person also gets it

gentle nova
#

with 2 tv

bright swift
#

no??

gentle nova
#

yup

marsh prism
bright swift
#

Regrowth goes from 9 to 12 sec with the 2nd TV

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how is that double

naive chasm
#

Is it worth spending 3 GCDs or a SotF just to put regrowth hot on 3 people versus putting rejuv on them though?

marsh prism
#

wg is strong at its onset, swiftmend is Strong, if you swift off a wg yeah it's absolutely worthwhile. whether you regrowth or rejuv with sotf depends on what's going on

naive chasm
#

Like that feels like something you could do if you want to funnel healing to the tank

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But I never find i need to do that

spark river
#

tank is hotted up most of the time so if he needs healing you just regrowth spam him

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those regrowths with full hots will blast him for most of his hp

naive chasm
#

I just feel like point 3 in this "rotation" list for M+ makes no sense to me

marsh prism
#

i think it is a remnant of undergrowth

naive chasm
#

Is it written for TWW?

spark river
#

that should be removed

marsh prism
#

it is edited and that may have been missed

spark river
#

from the guide

gentle nova
#

can it be next week already

marsh prism
#

@main timber FYI

gentle nova
#

i hate being reworked mid patch bro

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why does it always happen

bright swift
#

"reworked"

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bro

marsh prism
#

lol

bright swift
#

it's not that different

gentle nova
#

its a new build

eager sage
#

what addon would you prescribe for a beginner healer ?

velvet cloak
#

That's not how reworks work

sly pivot
spark river
balmy spire
spark river
#

Get good at the class you like rather than playing an easy class

bright swift
balmy spire
#

ah

naive chasm
#

Honestly I like druid cuz I can both heal and have stealth in world content as feral

#

Thats probably what it boils down to, that and flight form I guess

broken socket
#

Which gems should I use? QE says full haste, but guides say Haste/Mastery

bright swift
#

full haste gems are bad

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go haste/mastery

broken socket
#

tha's what I thought, more stats. Thanks!

grim agate
#

Dear community! I am seeking for your help XD I can take myth track set piece or Hero track Gaze from the vault... Everyone is hyping for this trinket but I am not sure if it is that biggg for resto...

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currently i have 0 myth track pieces

narrow raven
#

x.x Wrist + socket not bad.

old pollen
bright swift
#

you're not dropping ND man

#

what are you even saying

inner minnow
#

if this is any better

old pollen
#

i already simmed it in my head this morning in bed

bright swift
#

alright let us know how it goes man

#

sounds fucking awful

spark river
#

i actually tried it one pull

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i was out of mana in 2 minutes

#

do not recommend

spark river
# inner minnow healed heroic dragons, can any1 look at this that looked at my other log prior? ...

You dont regrowth spam at all which is a big problem, your regrowth to rejuv ratio should be 1:1. Your lb uptime is at 73%, you need to get that over 90% because its tied to your efflo and also your apex if you play it. Your swiftmend cpm is low, which is bad because swiftmend has a lot of interactions with talents and should be used on cd. Your overall cpm is also low for a resto druid. You need to aim >50 cpm.

#

Also wg is also very low

#

And you keep renewing lb too early

inner minnow
#

wg?

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nvm

#

also shouldnt we move LB to new target if they need spot healing?

gentle nova
#

👎

spark river
#

You are also not swiftmending your lb target when you play vi. You should always have rejuv,germ and lb on that target and extend its duration with swiftmend on cd.

cedar niche
#

Hello.
I crafted a Weapon with Emb and a Cloak with Arcanoweave.
What do I want to craft this week?

bright swift
#

cloak crafters garf

spark river
cedar niche
#

Do not shame me. I have to reroll 🙁

inner minnow
#

whats vi?

spark river
#

verdant infusion

naive chasm
#

The one that extends duration of hots when you swiftmend

spark river
#

You also used an innervated and casted convoke

#

which is definitely something

#

That innervate saved you exactly 0 mana

naive chasm
#

When is the actual best time to innervate in terms of when you are spending most mana as a druid? Since isnt regrowth spam pretty cheap anyway?

spark river
#

When you re ramping up with rejuvs

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Regrowth will be free cause of abundance

naive chasm
#

Makes sense

gentle nova
#

Its a buff

#

😹

spark river
#

god

#

where do these people spawn

#

druid could be hit with the biggest nerf hammer and you would still bring it to keys

idle lake
#

do we get a craft this week or next?

spark river
#

yes

#

this week

naive chasm
#

What is the actual change to the apex from 12.0 to 12.0.5?

idle lake
#

lifebloom spread healing is only from blooms

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not the hot

gentle nova
#

50% bloom splash to6 people

idle lake
#

is it stronger in m+ or just worse value

gentle nova
#

Stronger man

spark river
#

Stronger in both m+ and raid than before

idle lake
#

W

#

just wondered since 6 is more targets

gentle nova
#

How is 30% to 2 ppl gonna be weaker

old pollen
#

does ND proc when rejuv does 100% overhealing, or when any portion of rejuv does overhealing?

gentle nova
#

It ticks each time the target hits 100

idle lake
gentle nova
#

2-4-6

inner minnow
#

so with iv I only use it on the person with LB?

gentle nova
#

Yes

inner minnow
#

Someone was saying they use a macro to only cast LB on themselfs to help with uptime does that mean they just make a macro to only cast swift mend on themselfs?

thorn whale
#

unless someone is about to die in the next 0,5 seconds

gentle nova
#

Unless something completelt cursed is happening

thorn whale
#

yeah

inner minnow
#

or if you wanted to do that as a spot healer for tank you could set it to a specific name

#

I thought swift ment you always wanted to use it as a spot heal

gentle nova
#

No lol

#

Dont macro sm man

#

Play the game

naive chasm
#

Can the apex tier 2/3 heal the target who has lifebloom?

#

On 12.0.5

#

Or is it only other players?

gentle nova
#

Macro lb, macro sm, lifebloom reminder, whats next cast sequence rejuv into rg

inner minnow
#

someone just said you only want to swift mend the target with lifebloom on them tho

spark river
#

unc

#

calm down

#

no one is stopping you from playing the old way

#

Who actually macros sm tho

#

thats diabolical

gentle nova
#

But its smart

naive chasm
#

Ok but in M+ it would

spark river
#

Well if its 6 targets

#

Then it would in m+

gentle nova
#

It should

naive chasm
#

So possibly its a little less burst healing for the lifebloom target than the current iteration but much more burst aoe healing?

gentle nova
#

Explain

#

Im interested

naive chasm
#

You only get 3 blooms rather than 5 with the next apex, so a bit less targeted spot healing for the lifebloom target, but that is counteracted a bit by the rank2/3 healing being able to heal the lifebloom target. So maybe a bit less overall ST burst healing. But then you get a lot more AoE burst healing to non-LB targets since its 50% of the bloom amount to 6 players rather than 30% to 2

gentle nova
#

The lb target will get hit by 3 100% blooms and 3 50% blooms

#

So 4.5 blooms

#

Instead of current 5

naive chasm
#

Just to be clear I am comparing live to the latest 12.0.5 version

gentle nova
#

Yes

#

Current apex isnt guaranteed to hit the lb target tho

naive chasm
#

Sounds like we are in agreement then

grizzled seal
#

In 12.0.5 it can

naive chasm
#

Yea

prime portal
#

let me recheck for the dummies (me), i dont have to reroll mw, cuz my already op m+ healer class got a buff for m+ xD

naive chasm
#

New apex OP

grizzled seal
naive chasm
#

Blizz will probably hit us with the old -6% nerf before 12.0.5 goes live

bright swift
#

Disc is still stronger

naive chasm
#

Although I guess they wouldn't want to hurt resto raid healing so maybe not

daring sparrow
#

we craft just according to sims this week? for me it's wrist

grizzled seal
#

Or don't craft at all

bright swift
#

What sim is making you craft wrists

spark river
daring sparrow
vocal sage
#

QE live said wrists were 2nd for me, lke 0.02% behind ring

daring sparrow
#

wrist is weakest link for sure

bright swift
#

You don't have myth chest hello

grizzled seal
daring sparrow
naive chasm
#

Me neither 🙁

vocal sage
#

Me neither, it still told me ring

spark river
#

its because your bracers are lower ilvl

naive chasm
#

Can someone give me myth chest

grizzled seal
spark river
#

thats why qe recommends

grizzled seal
#

Or better yet

#

Upgrade rings

daring sparrow
#

yea I denied myth chest week 1 in vault for locus hero track

#

was a hard choice

naive chasm
#

Is there any site that shows what stats an item has at different ilvl? I thought wowhead used to offer that but cant see to find it anymore

spark river
#

WHAT

#

how is that a hard choice

grim agate
#

what to take for m+, Gaze or Myth track chest xD?

bright swift
#

Myth gaze?

grim agate
#

no, hero track

bright swift
#

What chest

grim agate
#

ill make it set piece

spark river
#

If its haste mastery then its the chest

bright swift
grim agate
#

gaze is not so good on resto? everyone is starving for the trin 😄

bright swift
#

It is

grim agate
#

currently i play HOW + EF

#

EF i have on myth track

daring sparrow
#

so I guess I'll craft chest

coral bison
#

Guys a friend of mine crafted another piece of armor with embellishment (he already have 2 embell active). Can he open a ticket now to recovery the sparks at least?

spark river
#

He can just recraft it without embellishment

#

Vanishing powder or what its called to remove embellishment

coral bison
#

he can't remove it as recraft

#

aaah ok

#

ty^^

polar lichen
#

think it was Griftah's Heavy-Duty Embellishing Powder?

broken belfry
#

I'm looking for some great advise. In my vault today i got Gaze of the Alnseer on Hero track and Emerald coach's Whisle on myth track. I am not sure of what i should take. Gaze is BiS and heals for 304 HPS more (acording to a sim i did) . But Emerald Coach's Whisle Give me and an ally more Mastery. Is that better for M+ witch i run like 95% of the time. I do raid but only with pugs so i mainly focus on M+. I hope someone can help a newly restro druid. Thanks a lot! ❤️

weary moss
#

Can you export profiles to load into things like danders?

inner minnow
#

is it better to prioritize refreshing 3 stacks of LB over sending it on a new person that needs the spot healing? Should I always wait for LB to expire before recast?

strange oriole
#

Hey, what would be the 3rd best crafted item? I've crafted a 2H weapon and feet.

slow pasture
#

Man really don't know what to craft .... Chest and catalyze shoulder, or Neck

fathom rain
#

Hi. I think the new Apex changes is a nerf to Mythic+ and a boost to raid heals. Someone said that apex doesnt always target the player with lifebloom active on them and that is correct. 5 procs of apex get my group from 20% to full health with active rejuvs on them so I see 3 procs will be a nerf. Yes compensated for rank 2/3 heals because we all agree the splash was rubbish. However prosperity talent with hots on active tank should proc blooms in normal throughput. I see in raids prosperity being taken again just to benefit from the bloom procs.

slow pasture
gentle nova
fathom rain
#

Ye its my opinion just posting it mate

slow pasture
boreal karma
#

@grizzled seal you believe we are not getting nerfed or?

#

do we have any % number compared new with old talents prolly not right cause you also play wildstalker now

fathom rain
#

Its a settled debate according to someones pin though so

boreal karma
#

its still a buff overall in m+

fathom rain
#

But who looks at overall healing in m+?

#

Situational healing is prio surely

boreal karma
#

3x 50% = 150% compared to 5x30% = 150

#

its legit same healing you just lose chip healing from the lifebloom hot

#

but have a lay on hands on all 5 players instead of 2 players

#

how do you not see this as a buff

fathom rain
#

Ye but in the season like for example Nexus and Seat you are having 2 people with debuffs on that you want to target heal. In that situation 5 procs was OP

boreal karma
#

5 procs

#

is exact

#

same

#

healing

#

as

#

3

#

3x 50

#

compared to 30x5

#

30% 5 times is 150%

#

50% 3 times

#

is 150%

#

you must be trolling

#

or ragebaiting

fathom rain
#

No I am raid leader of a guild in azjol nerub and come for the convo

boreal karma
#

but oh wait you get that healing on all 5 players instead of 2

slow pasture
#

I think you two are just misunderstanding each other

boreal karma
#

and the bloom healing is exact same

#

you lose chip healing get same bloom healing its just even better cause its full aoe

#

all you lose is the raw hot healing which is far outvalued by the amount the blooms will do

#

every bloom is on all players for m+

grizzled seal
#

Old proc is 5x blooms on your LB target, new proc is 3x blooms + 3x 50% blooms on your LB target

boreal karma
#

i just hope new apex is around 5% ish buff for us

grizzled seal
#

You lose half a bloom on LB target but gain a shit ton more on everyone else

#

Also the longer the duration of the debuff the better new everbloom is because it scales better with photo

#

And it's better when more than one target is taking dmg (like debuffs on two players for example)

#

People need to test this on ptr before offering their opinions. Also at least understanding how current everbloom works helps too

boreal karma
#

torty do you think it will be bigger then 5% increase overall for raid that is?

grizzled seal
#

Maybe? I think this is getting nerfed

boreal karma
#

even with 5% we shouldnt be op compared to mw/disc

grizzled seal
#

It's a stupid buff

#

It buffs us in m+ more than it buffs us in raid

boreal karma
#

ye true

grizzled seal
#

The number of targets needs to go up and splash needs to go down

vocal vine
#

which slot to craft - wrist, boots or cape?

boreal karma
grizzled seal
#

The splash number rn is absurd

#

I could tell it was OP without doing any math on it

#

And then it turned out even stronger than that

boreal karma
#

but its not op for raid

#

thats all i care

grizzled seal
#

It is

boreal karma
#

do you account the points we lose for it etc?

errant haven
boreal karma
#

i feel like people just what it does but dont account all the points we will lose for it

grizzled seal
boreal karma
#

yeah but its not a crazy buff without changing anything

grizzled seal
#

Idk about definitions of crazy

boreal karma
#

and in comparison to mw and disc i dont think we will push much further ahead

grizzled seal
#

Druid was played in rwf

#

Why do you buff it

boreal karma
#

dont think its about buffing druid its about making the midnight apex talents which is the main feature of the expansion playable on every class

#

so it needs to beat the current raid talents

grizzled seal
#

Then don't make it a single target spell apex

#

Thoughts?

boreal karma
#

yes but thats more work for them xD

#

i dislike that its lifebloom

grizzled seal
#

We called the problems with it on alpha

#

They are just dumb af

#

We will eat a raid nerf cuz they don't think

boreal karma
#

i think we will be fine

#

just on the higher end then right now

#

just by these numbers i believe we can go up by 7-9% and wont get a nerf

grizzled seal
boreal karma
#

but thats easy to fix

#

increase amount of players hit and reduce splash amount

grizzled seal
#

Easy to fix for whom

#

The same idiots who made this change?

boreal karma
#

they just need a week

grizzled seal
broken belfry
#

I'm looking for some great advise. In my vault today i got Gaze of the Alnseer on Hero track and Emerald coach's Whisle on myth track. I am not sure of what i should take. Gaze is BiS and heals for 304 HPS more (acording to a sim i did) . But Emerald Coach's Whisle Give me and an ally more Mastery. Is that better for M+ witch i run like 95% of the time. I do raid but only with pugs so i mainly focus on M+. I hope someone can help a newly restro druid. Thanks a lot! ❤️

spark river
#

Gaze is also bis in m+

#

So I would take gaze

sudden rover
#

do we drop catalyst on alts once we get the 4p achiev on main?

thorn plover
#

No it's character specific

broken belfry
sudden rover
zenith linden
#

what would be a good 3th craft if i crafted weapon and wrist?

#

offpiece?

spark river
thorn plover
spark river
sudden rover
#

ok ty

spark river
#

Wrist craft was kinda stupid ngl

plain steeple
broken belfry
plain steeple
#

Oh. 3 points apex. Not playable, lol

broken belfry
plain steeple
#

Geez my discord didn’t load all the messages.

sonic star
#

Hi. I got a myth mastery>crit weapon in chest and a myth head. Not sure what to pick because there is no haste on the weapon. I don't have crafted a weapon yet and I don't do mythic raiding.

zenith linden
#

wait to craft weapon and take helm?

thorn plover
#

Craft weapon, take the head

vocal vine
#

which to craft as 3rd- wrist, cape or boots?

potent pasture
#

Hello, is this where i may be able to find some help about resto druids?

sonic star
kindred lynx
#

Quick question, Ring is hero with Crit/haste, And wrist is hero haste mastery, Do i craft Ring 285 or wrist 285 Questionably epic says ring is biger upgrade

#

alrady have weapon and waist crafted with embliesh

quartz maple
#

When you're doing 17-18s, does versatility start to become more important than haste and mastery loading? I have haste at 35% and mastery at 38% and still have 2 pieces to BIS for haste/mastery instead of haste/vers. Trying to work through whether I need a little more damage reduction.

spark river
spark river
kindred lynx
#

My rings and neck are the only items 266, and this week i can upgrade 1 to 276 and th eother to 272 so 1 ring remains 266

#

Isn't it overal better to craft the ring have it on285 and neck 276 and ring 272 as overal?

potent pasture
#

This is the first time ive played resto druid and think im going about it all wrong tonight was my first night raiding as druid and i think it was awful because im not doing something right

kindred lynx
#

I know it doesn't have primary stat but the wrist only gains 5 intelect from teh craft

spark river
ruby inlet
#

https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/raid

I used to rely on this blog a lot for resto druid. I see it mentions changes in midnight but the raid guide at least is out of date, since it's telling me to cast flourish (RIP).

So, we’ve learned a little bit about our spells, but perhaps more importantly we must learn when to cast what. This can sometimes be encounter specific so think of these as general strategies that can work well in a wide variety of situations.

spark river
#

Wowhead and icyveins for guides

#

There is a common mistakes section on qe thats updated

ruby inlet
#

yeah! I hope they update it for midnight soon. I love their blog.

robust crest
spark river
#

Voulk writes all of them, its just that he doesnt have enough time for everything

ruby inlet
#

I help maintain a few open source projects myself (unrelated to WoW) so I totally get that.

robust crest
vocal vine
#

hey which slot to craft as 3rd- wrist, cape or boots?

ruby inlet
#

^ also curious about the best crafted gear

steel kraken
#

Sup guys

thorn plover
steel kraken
#

Its not bad, but def not the best

thorn plover
#

Say the line @spark river

spark river
# potent pasture https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KGBMcpFLn7QkXvdj

You cant only cast rejuvenation as you will run out of mana very quickly, your rejuvenation to regrowth ratio needs to be 1:1. Ramp up to 12 abundance and then spam regrowth until you fall under 6 and then cycle again. Your lb uptime is bad at 60%, it should be at least 90%. Your cpm on swiftmend is only 2 which is very very bad. Swiftmend is connected to most of our talents and we need to press it on cd. You are also only on 38 cpm which means that you are not pressing your spells at all. You need to always be casting and to have >50cpm.

A lot of stuff to work on. I suggest checking the common mistakes from the pins.

junior ginkgo
#

Question, I got heart of the wind on Myth track in the vault today. I currently run Gaze (champ track) and Vaelgor's final Start (HC Track). What would you run between these 3 trinkets? QE is telling me to replace gaze with HoW but i kinda feels bad

spark river
spark river
crude nebula
#

can you guys help me to decide to craft either a chest or jewelry this week?

sharp quarry
#

for those opting to pick up sunfire/boom in m+ how come they pick circle of the wild over circle of the heavens?

steel kraken
steel kraken
#

I know that gaze is good, but it's a big ilvl diff

spark river
#

Massive upgrade

potent pasture
#

So what would be the best way to try and train rotations because fundamentally i think im going about this all wrong

#

for raiding specifically

junior ginkgo
spark river
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Rinse and repeat until you get it right

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Read guides, check pov on yt from highly rated resto druids and you ll learn

grizzled seal
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Join heroic raids and practice

restive vessel
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Hello there druids 🙂

[Litany of Lightblind Wrath] champion 6/6

is better? then i use now

[Volatile Void Suffuser] hero 3/6
[Volatile Void Suffuser] hero 3/6

thanks for answer 🙂

potent pasture
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I mean I just want to practice so im not dragging down my raid teams progression

spark river
# potent pasture So what would be the best way to try and train rotations because fundamentally i...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcZsfIKv-XY
You can see how a highly rated rdruid thinks here

Credit to Phasedruid for the video. He ran the no-Apex build with Convoke instead of Incarnation.

You can find his log of the fight here: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/x8dZm6HcvrG1QKyC?fight=66&type=healing

For more content, consider joining the QE discord: https://discord.gg/8arZt4vfc4

▶ Play video
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Really nice vid from phased

plain steeple
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You could just join lfr or normal raids as well.
The playstyle will stay the exact same.

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Make sure you have zero downtime and always press a spell.

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With every single gcd

grizzled seal
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I'd avoid using it, especially since it's only champ track

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Get a rep trinket

velvet cloak
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Speaking of rep trinket, I saw that it says on QELive trinkets that expected uptime is 55%

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But uptime is like 80%+ fully upgraded

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Is that taken into account on the rating of it and the info box is just old info?

grizzled seal
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I think the box is old info, cuz at 55% it's pretty bad

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You need to upgrade console though

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It wouldn't be nearly as high at 55% uptime

quartz maple
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Would appreciate some insights on heart of the wild. With damage being under 2% in the highest keys (watching streams of the top 10 m+ restos out there), why is it prioritized so highly? I understand damage is damage and helps, but 2 talent points for it seems excessive. I have to be missing something on its value. Why take it?

versed wadi
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Hey there, does anyone have an updated version of this weakaura?

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or knows how to update it?

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I miss my frame glow

analog pond