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thorn plover
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Yes

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8% per second

wise galleon
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Dont have cookies in hand so I couldnt check

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But I remember it was 100%

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ty

thorn plover
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Yes mage is 100% over 20 aka 5% per second.
Sanguithorn tea is 8% per second for 20 seconds

urban kestrel
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Well it ramps up to those %s is how it works too, so unless you're going for an exceptionally long drink it's basically the same.

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(it ramps up 1% per sec until it hits that 5-8).

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Not that you can even drop combat these days without being nelf.

thorn plover
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I actually didn't know it ramped like that

rustic copper
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Someone was name reporting people in my old old guild to try to get them to dc mid pull

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Actually crazy

thorn plover
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Seems like it's not all variations of food. Now I need to do some testing

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Mage food doesn't show up in combat log, other food does

vocal hinge
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sorry silly question but my raid's rsham is getting on my case for having high overhealing on prog how do i explain that druid overhealing is not a metric we should be looking at to assign cds

waxen ingot
thorn plover
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Mage food is actually better for short drinks. It doesn't ramp at all

spark river
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Tell him to play a real healer

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that usually works

vocal hinge
thorn plover
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Very cool, thanks @urban kestrel

waxen ingot
main timber
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Looking at overhealing in 2026 SUS

waxen ingot
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that made him say that

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im curious

waxen ingot
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idk

vocal hinge
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ya

gentle nova
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Just show em logs of druids

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They will all have 40-50% oh

main timber
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And of course pass on messages of their argument getting flamed in here

bright swift
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I have 56% overhealing on Crown M kill

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and I still did 167k hps

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is rdruid broken

spark river
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yes

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next question

waxen ingot
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ngl everytime i mention druid discord as for reasoning for anything i get even more frmaled KEKW

bright swift
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..

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what the fuck do they know

vocal hinge
proven phoenix
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Lmao

bright swift
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bro tranq overhealing šŸ’€

vocal hinge
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uh we've already killed it tho so it's whatever

urban kestrel
vocal hinge
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im just asking cos i need help explaining facepalmcrying

main timber
vocal hinge
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apart from saying like "yea thats bs"

main timber
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They changed how sqrt works so now tranq shows as higher overhealing than is practical

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If you had 0% overhealing tranq would not do its raw healing amount from the log

urban kestrel
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Overhealing owns. Get valanyr out of the bank noobs.

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Were proccing some huge tranq shields

waxen ingot
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had around 40% overheal

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that should work

vocal hinge
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yea

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xD ok

waxen ingot
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Riptide

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chain heal

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Riptide

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chain heal

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or type this to him

vocal hinge
waxen ingot
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it will trigger him

vocal hinge
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lmao im trying to be polite :c

livid hearth
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Was checking top restodruids talent tree in raid but everyone i see in heroic raid is doing wildstalker in heroic raid level. Is it becuase they are not swapping off their dungeon tree? Or people running wildstalker on both raid and ddungeon?

Iv guide says keepr on raids

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frank lake
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Interrupt

main timber
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So you are just looking at meme DPS parse logs for which Wildstalker is obviously better

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You can swap it up the top

livid hearth
thorn plover
gilded dragon
spark river
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Yep

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Not pressing regrowth nearly enough

gilded dragon
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Our guild is about to start M5 , and I'm honestly really worried about it

spark river
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Also potting twice int when reck is our go to combat pot

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Also his tranq is assigned very late

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2 36 into the fight

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You miss one usage of tranq

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He used convoke 4 times and he didnt cast wg before it

waxen ingot
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Race druids used int

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I personally use int as well

gilded dragon
waxen ingot
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pretty sure when u looked at vrocas logs

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he also uses int

spark river
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Hes also not using wg before tranqing and the second tranq didnt ramp for it and cut it early by 1 tick

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Using wg before tranq and convoke is important

spark river
gilded dragon
balmy spire
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If you bl on pull

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I would use int

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If not Reck

spark river
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Also his ironbark mitigates only 5k

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Thats kinda wasted

gentle nova
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Recklessness gives 3x the stats

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Why would you not use it

balmy spire
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Reck is like a own bl imho

gentle nova
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And? They stack

balmy spire
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Reck + bl will get cut by gcd

gentle nova
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So whenwe had 100% haste in bfa it was bad?

balmy spire
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When you got dmg Events right at the start of the fight?

grizzled seal
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paladins, alleria, beloren, lura

balmy spire
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And at 3 of them you dont bl at start, correct

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There I would use Reck

gilded dragon
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thanks guys!

thorn whale
thorn plover
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How much dr on reck pot

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If you're sitting at 1st dr natty

rustic copper
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How much haste do we have with reck bl

gentle nova
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voulk said haste is 1:1 to int

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so wouldnt tht mean even at idk 50% dr reck is still better than int

plain steeple
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And even at gcd cap your hots still tick faster.

wheat cape
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What are the exceptionel spells that convoke can cast now? Flourish is a passive so that's gone

rain oyster
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1 tick of tranq

wheat cape
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Oh that's quite nice šŸ™‚

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Does that include the flourish passive?

cyan minnow
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yes

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so +2 hot extension

wheat cape
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Wonderful. Any other exceptional spells?

thorn plover
hybrid imp
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With Soul of the Forest should I always go for Regrowth or does Rejuv also worth it?

thorn plover
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Almost always rejuv

hybrid imp
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Ahh okey thanks

wheat cape
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I usually go for rejuv but having AoE burst healing is sometimes useful

teal brook
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can we track when call of the elder is on cd?

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I cant find it in cdm

wheat cape
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Does it not give a debuff?

teal brook
tough portal
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Might be able to with ArcUI

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Making a custom tracker that goes on 60s cd when you gain the Call buff

molten gull
wheat cape
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If you use the apex talent

molten gull
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That is assuming you're playing apex (I only play M+, I know some people in raid dont)

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yea

thorn plover
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@dense lantern goat. Just saw your post, gonna download and give it a go

dense lantern
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They tried to suppress me

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It didn't work

gentle nova
thorn plover
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It's trackable on your raid frames

haughty ibex
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when i swiftmend into rejuv/regrowth, does it prioritise certain targets, like someone not full hp etc? or is it completely random

proven phoenix
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injured but not most injured I think

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if that makes sense

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its less smart than wild growth but not fully random

haughty ibex
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mhm i understand

spare sand
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So guys whats your plan for voidforge currency

tough portal
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Lmao my hair haver @red dew NOT BALD

spare sand
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I was thinking of targetting myth chest from m+ since i have a heart of wind myth track and my guild is 2/7m rn

spark river
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you could target gaze from dreamrift

spare sand
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That's not bad but would have to kill it on myth šŸ™

proven phoenix
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when does that come out

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the currency thing

spare sand
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21

spark river
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Well yeah, but it isnt that much harder than vorasius

thorn plover
spark river
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You can also target nexus point

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Chest, ring, staff

spare sand
spark river
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Shouldnt be hard to convince them with the bis trinket dropping

spare sand
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I agree althiugh we had some problem with vorasius mythic so idk if we will be able to kill chim

thorn plover
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I think it took us 15 pulls to kill it, and we're late CE

spare sand
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We are like 5,6/? Bosses on myth guild

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But we got CE on gallywix

spark river
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Well my casual guild wiped for 40 pulls and then I killed it with a pug

thorn plover
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Its easier than alleria on heroic lol

spark river
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Depends on your group really

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If they can interrupt its easy

thorn plover
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Curse of tongues goat

spark river
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We also get a 3% buff for raid next week

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So it should be easier

spare sand
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Oh nice

cunning needle
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Also whatā€™s up

proven phoenix
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sup

whole horizon
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whaddup

hardy junco
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doings 17's 18's whats your overall dps end of key? mostly? I'm at 11k-13k, is that really bad? šŸ˜›

bright swift
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i'm lower lol

proven phoenix
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yea im legit sub 10k

bright swift
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I do 10k DPS and our key still has 5 mins on it

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DPS is not an issue at all

thorn plover
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5-10k is where I'm usually at

hardy junco
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Vickman playing it at 20k ish end of key

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idk šŸ˜›

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but hes built different ig

spark river
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Im at 15k

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Thats normal

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Vick sends pots also, so thats probably why he is a bit higher

lusty jolt
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yo guys, i'll be going to mythic voidspire in a few minutes as Resto Druid

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after todays hidden hotfixes

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what is actually the best build?

spark river
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The what

bright swift
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hidden hotfixes? ICANT

lusty jolt
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people were talkign about how apex was buffed in a hotfix

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and that is now viable again in a raid

bright swift
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that's not in hotfixes

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that's on PTR

spark river
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Its not a hotfix and thats next patch

lusty jolt
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ah, so i keep playing with the no apex build then

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gotcha

violet pagoda
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Did they cancel the Reforestation trick out of combat?

spark river
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Yes

violet pagoda
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sad panda

spark river
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You cant stack refo before combat anymore

sudden rover
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they fucked us good on that one

violet pagoda
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yeah good and hard

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i got some coaching some coaching from rycn and he didn't know about it haha

oak garnet
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All the top druids also play hb and VI because tanks on 18+ get absolutely shit on

bright swift
oak garnet
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But in the keys I'm doing ND and prosp feel so much better across the board

graceful ermine
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VI just saves so many globals

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I tried swapping to prosp this week and it felt so bad

bright swift
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Did you play ND

graceful ermine
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Yeah

tough portal
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ND is undroppable fr

bright swift
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yeah I don't get that

graceful ermine
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Yeah I run nd in all builds

bright swift
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I'm playing prosperity and I'm often in situations where I have 10 rejuvs out with nothing to press

oak garnet
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No top druids play ND because the nature of the damage going out is overwhelmingly single target tank getting blasted

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It doesn't apply to 98% of people

bright swift
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that's bullshit

graceful ermine
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I mean I probably wasnā€™t playing very well with it. But it just felt like I was forced to send so many more globals on rejuv on longer pulls

spark river
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nd in keys is bait

chilly atlas
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did 2 academy today with monks at +10. They pulled all first area. In the end of the pull they both went out in like 2 globals, not a chance to keep them alive with all my hots and spamming regrowth. Any tips on how to deal with that kind of damage?

oak garnet
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Look at people streaming 20s

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Look at tanks hp bar

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They all run hb for maximum st

tough portal
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On taht pull

fervent mica
bright swift
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HB does barely anything for more ST man

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HB shines if you have lifebloom on someone without any other hots

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which is never

fervent mica
chilly atlas
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They tried to blame me for being shit. I tried to tell them but was not negotiable

graceful ermine
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You either need a bleed remove or your tank must kite out the bleed at some point

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Yeah they didnā€™t know what they were doing

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If they blame you for tank death on that pull

bright swift
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going from 6 to 8 mastery stacks is very useless

tough portal
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I like that pull as bear

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I get to do 90% of my damage in the first 4 globals and then kiting is whatever

bright swift
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it's not worth a talent point

oak garnet
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In keys it seems to be on tank 90% of the time based on the efflo ring from what I was watching

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Just trying to figure out why they were doing it bc I couldn't justify it over ND personally

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But I'm working on like 16 resil w few 17s

graceful ermine
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If I were dropping nd it would be for second point of tv

cosmic monolith
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so, ive been looking at some of the top resto and the talents calcs showing they only using 1 point in apex talents is that new?

bright swift
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You don't drop ND

spark river
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thats exactly what you do

oak garnet
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Where it isn't tank dying then really ever kills me run

bright swift
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it's so fucking OP

spark river
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you drop nb for hb and nd for 2 tv

bright swift
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a second TV for what

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what does that do

rain oyster
bright swift
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compared to ND

graceful ermine
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There are a lot of long rot pulls where nd isnā€™t getting value and tv gets big value

oak garnet
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I see the top build they are all running on wcl the only flex is either 2nd TV or nb

graceful ermine
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I donā€™t think itā€™s worth the swap, but thereā€™s at least an argument for it in some dung

oak garnet
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This is dudes running like 20s tho

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And its prob dungeon specific

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They all auto lock hb

bright swift
fervent mica
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they could run 20 different iterations of talents and it wouldn't change anything

graceful ermine
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Like half of seat

oak garnet
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As in they would still play it the same and run wouldn't change?

bright swift
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you don't sit on 50% health for long periods of time

graceful ermine
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Yeah but no one is ever topped

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So nd isnā€™t doing anything

bright swift
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why not

graceful ermine
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And every rejuv is getting tv value

bright swift
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why wouldn't they be topped

spark river
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there are 2 iterations people run and have been running from beta and neither of them have nd

haughty ibex
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but isnt hb insanely good if u often swap lb?

oak garnet
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I feel like I burst people to topped all the time

graceful ermine
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Because thereā€™s nonstop small pulsing damage

oak garnet
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Constantly

bright swift
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yeah so you regrowth or swiftmend someone and they are full health for a tick of rejuv and it extends it

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idk

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you need to show a vod example

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your scenario doesn't exist

graceful ermine
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I mean okay so nd gets non-0 value. But tv gets a lot in those spots

bright swift
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while you are reapplying rejuvs

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I'm spamming regrowth

graceful ermine
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I guess I wasnā€™t being very precise. Itā€™s not that you literally never trigger nd. Itā€™s more that almost all of your rejuvs will get good tv value

oak garnet
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https://youtu.be/66wItjcnJ5c?si=T77HdvdlrL0Of3bb
look at monks hp bar here

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This is why I'm assuming people play hb

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Druid group heal is so good it's literally just for the crazy single target damage tank is taking

tough portal
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HB is still ~8-10% healing amp on the LB target

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At 5 hots up

graceful ermine
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My thought on hb was that it was useful for two target damage like the bird boss in Windrunner. Where you are lbing one target and leveraging apex while spam regrowthing the other

tough portal
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With 30% mastery

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It's not bad at all

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Compared to alternatives

graceful ermine
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But I havenā€™t tried it

tough portal
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2nd TV, NB

bright swift
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that doesn't seem that crazy

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just spam regrowth if your tank starts dropping

tough portal
bright swift
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i mean if they don't change apex for next week

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then I can see it

high mountain
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Eyh Vrocas, how do you play the absorb heal shields on Mythic Crown ?

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Do you even care about them or are they just getting sniped by other healers ?

bright swift
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my pala does a lot to it, especially in p3

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but in p1 I slam into them too

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this is total over the pull

high mountain
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2 rejuv on them and spam regrowth ?

coral bison
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guys how is possible at start of a boss, ppl have already 3 stacks of reforestation??

bright swift
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nah don't actively rejuv them

bright swift
coral bison
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ahh ok

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ty, i was turning crazy

high mountain
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Oh so i don't even bother to rejuv the shields, i just spam regrowth on them ?

tough portal
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@main timber Regrowth hot is snapshotting stats AND mastery stack count?!
First screenshot you can see the first ticks I highlighted are surrounded by other hots, and the hots fall off and the hots stay buffed. This includes its own hot. Fresh Regrowth cast, the hot isnt affected by its own mastery stack cuz of this.
Second screenshot you can see Thriving Vegetation meaning Rejuv was just applied after Regrowth's first 913 hot tick.
Third screenshot is showing a fresh proc of 230 mastery and the last 2 ticks are after proc, same number as the ones before. It doesnt snapshot healing amps like Forestwalk, that's the 1337 ticks before I clicked Forestwalk off. Snapshots int procs as well, like the pvp insignia trinket.

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bright swift
tough portal
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Abomination of a talent tree to test this without other healing amps and procs, dropping treants but swapping to KOTG

main timber
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Not home but will check in a bit

tough portal
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Now I cant replicated it anymore

torn hamlet
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do you have any addon to coordinate cc on adds? like ccrotationhelper but working

tough portal
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Yeah now it's buffing it up by the expected amount before and after hots fall off. Idk what was happening with the snapshot.

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tough portal
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I was in combat to proc trinkets there

plain steeple
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I had some weird stuff happening while testing lifebloom blooms as well.
It was very inconsistent - around 30% difference between blooms.

primal cargo
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cant do m10

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this game is fucking trash i cant believe

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ppl with 3k rio dying on m10

plain steeple
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Is there any ability that actually kills on a 10?

primal cargo
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i dont know what is hapening but i had a pause of 1 week

main timber
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They might not be playing well, but also you can just hard carry 10s

primal cargo
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now i constantly deplate my keys from m10 to 9

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this system sux

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when they will punish trolls in m+

tough portal
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2027

oak garnet
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Rdruid can heal absolute apes in a +10 with 270 ilvl

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Like people trying to die

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Which is how some of the pugs I play with seem to be playing

primal cargo
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bro i was doing m10 and healing with green items

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like 220 ilvl

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now i get some trolls like

oak garnet
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Perhaps that's why people were dying

primal cargo
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let me pull 5 packs and die with all cd's

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then afk till vote

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or fake dc

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im geared now

oak garnet
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It gets better at like 15+ usually whole group says nt and if there's a major wipe were all on same page

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It's a go next angle

main timber
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Over time you will get naturally weaker players at each key level

primal cargo
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i cant push at time , i just want to fill my vault but i cant cus i deplate my m10 with trolls and then wasting time to do m9

fervent mica
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this isn't something that can happen consistently.

oak garnet
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My advice is find people overperforming in your runs and add them and run with them more

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Most people want to party w heals or tank given the relative lack

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Finding good people to play with isn't hard

gentle nova
primal cargo
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i blame blizzard

gentle nova
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you can carry the 10s yourself

primal cargo
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ofc they will troll

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when no punish

gentle nova
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i blame you, you clearly are doing something wrong if people are dying on your 10s

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even if they are doing everything blatantly wrong you can just outheal it

primal cargo
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omg

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i cant heal

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LEAVERS

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do u even read

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or afk ppl

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cba

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no point

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have a good night

oak garnet
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I may have 1 toxic leaver in 20 runs

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If that

gentle nova
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you said they died with all cds and then leave

thorn plover
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It's my first day on the internet too

gentle nova
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u expect ppl to press defensives in a 10?

plain steeple
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Different mindset: nobody can die with me. I will heal them all.
Be the hero.

urban bone
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Youā€™ve awoken the Beastwithin, back offā€¦ or elseā€¦

spark river
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These mere mortals give me no gratitude

urban bone
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If my tank leaves, I go bear

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AND heal

plain steeple
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I saved some heroic raid pug kills by going bear and tanking until res was ready or the bosses dead.

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Going bear is quite strong.

urban bone
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POWER

ocean tusk
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quick question, with the wildstalker talent to increase regrowth by 35%, does that work for soul of the forest duplicated regrowths on other members as well if i apply it on myself? Or do the other 2 people get normal regrowths

haughty ibex
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do u expect blizzard to find them irl or

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ragebait works on me šŸ˜”

stable iron
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someone explain raid resto to me like I just crawled out of my laboratory test tube this morning and also why do we not run apex

bright swift
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read wowhead guide perhaps

stable iron
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I've tried that but god called me a nerd

thorn plover
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You'll get called a lot worse here

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Go read a guide

stable iron
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So real, thanks boss

peak charm
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How do u install the m33kauras or is that gone already ?

thorn plover
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Github

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Google m33kauras and click the GitHub link

peak charm
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i downloed extracted and placed in my addon folder i dont see it

half star
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Show screenshot of it in your Addon folder

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Might have downloaded wrong thing, itā€™s like 7 folders

proven phoenix
tough portal
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I get ragebaited

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By triple casters that split up in a triangle 60yd away from one another in M+

rotund geode
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what you guys do when u want to pump the dps meter on a very large m+ pack that will die fast

vocal hinge
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ooof

granite sparrow
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finally gave up entirely on QUI as you guys suggested because it doesn't work at all with CDM, any suggestion on how i can have "prettier" and "cleanier" actionbars, minimap etc without a giant plugin like elvui etc?

gentle nova
thorn plover
bright swift
granite sparrow
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does enchanceQOL also let me have a castbar like Quartz/QUI? i just can't with blizzard's

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oh bartender

thorn plover
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Unhalted unit frames has a good cast bar

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Ascension cast bar is good too

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But seems excessive

rotund geode
bright swift
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marksman hunter

rotund geode
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kekw

granite sparrow
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thank you so much once again, time to install all the addons on curse xd

rotund geode
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oke

bright swift
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we don't do meaningful aoe

rotund geode
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that is sad

silk ice
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Starfire stonks?

bright swift
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if you wanna do 30k DPS when your actual DPS are doing 600k then you could

silk ice
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Gotta pad that overall somehow

oak garnet
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10k overall dps gang rise up

thorn whale
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Just go play monk

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Kick things and do 70k on big pulls

pulsar kettle
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ew

tough portal
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So the Regrowth -> Starfire -> Regrowth -> Starfire does work

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It just needs LB up

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NB alone doesn't

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It only counts as 1

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But with LB up and Rampant Growth, it counts as 5

stable iron
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how high does a heroic parse have to be before she returns my calls?

proven phoenix
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she doesnt care about heroic parses lil gup

silk ice
rotund geode
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i dont have starfire should i do get it

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im catweaving

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and honestly i like what i do on single target priority but my end of dungeon overall suck

silk ice
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Itā€™s fine, accept your role as the passenger princess in m+

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Bring snacks and good vibes

torn roost
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Honestly, even when I'm trying to DPS it's 1/10th of the lowest DPS or tank. Just keep em alive mainly. Put up a few bleeds as cat and maybe a few moon fires.

stable iron
#

Damn I was doing a bit and now I want pancakes

runic eagle
#

hey all, i was curious if i can just post my logs and get some feedback from ur guys šŸ™‚ we just killed hc crown and we were second time now 20 ppl and all the weeks before we were a smaller grp so i feel like im not used to healing a bigger raid rn, but anyways pls share ur ideas how to improve. ty for ur help (pls dont roast me too much šŸ„¹ )

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/nwchHfrtyDQ2qjzx?fight=29&type=healing

my other logs:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/75267166?spec=Restoration&class=Druid

Warcraft Logs
Healing - Crown of the Cosmos Heroic Kill (20:33 UTC) - Report: it ...
reef locust
#

Is catweaving as big in M+ as it was last xpac?

grand herald
spark river
waxen ingot
#

its alot

spark river
#

Overall cpm is also bad

runic eagle
#

i think i tried to spread too many rejuvs on the whole raid

waxen ingot
#

you are doing it just enaugh, maybe a little bit too much

spark river
#

Rejuv is the only thing you actually press

runic eagle
#

at how many stacks i should spam regrowth?

spark river
#

6-12

grand herald
#

You want about 50/50 RJ/RG casts

waxen ingot
spark river
#

Ramp to 12 and spam until you fall to 6

grand herald
#

But also, press SM on cd

#

So much ties to swiftmend

#

You lose obscene amounts of value

#

Not pressing it on cd

spark river
#

Your sm spreads your rejuv and gets you more uptime on tree through reforestation

grand herald
#

And extends your LB and 2 rejuvs

runic eagle
#

so i should use sm more to spread rejuvs instead of regrowths?

grand herald
#

Saving you GCDs

spark river
#

With vi yeah

#

Yes

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Use sw on cd

#

Very important

#

Sw rejuv is how we maintain abundance throughout the fight

runic eagle
#

ty so much :3

spark river
#

Read through the guide and common mistakes in resources

runic eagle
#

oki will do

spark river
#

It should help you a lot as some of the mistakes are foundational

chrome ether
#

Does anyone know of a website/resource that has dungeon info for healers? There used to be a few Google Sheets or websites that listed damage profile for bosses and dangerous mobs per dungeon.. I just started playing again and looking for resources

grand herald
#

Experience is the best teacher, just troll a few groups

hybrid tangle
slow pasture
main timber
#

You can also use something like Mythic Dungeon Tools and then just click through mobs to see what they do

errant tulip
spark river
#

Sync with reforestation if possible

#

But dont hold on it for too long

#

Also be careful about cutting your tranq shorter for the last tick

spark river
atomic mirage
#

is this chest

image.png
#

ok

#

or is it completely shit

#

stats wise bad but the passive

spark river
#

its horrible

atomic mirage
#

allright

spark river
#

haste mastery is bis

atomic mirage
zenith lodge
#

Possibly a silly question but does the 35% Regrowth increased heal on myself with the Windstalker Harmonious Constitution Talent work with the echo'd regrowths through Soul of the Forest?

#

would the two addition applications be buffed too?

inland terrace
#

How long are we holding convoke to sync with refo? Lets say I have 2 stacks of refo with SM coming up soon, but raid damage is about to go out. Are we just sending convoke or should I really be focused on syncing it with tree? I know the WoWAnalyzer does not like casting convoke outside of tree, and I can certainly improve the number of SM casts I get off in a fight, but it feels really bad to hold convoke when raid damage is going out.

fierce isle
#

as you get better in the fight you'll cast SM more often to better time your convokes in your refor window

inland terrace
#

Yea, my SM score on WoWAnalyzer is pretty bad, so that's my main focus during raid tonight. That's probably the answer, and then the refo + convoke sync will come naturally.

bright swift
#

it'll naturally line up sometimes

#

you can hold swiftmend for maybe 10 secs if you're about to convoke

thorn plover
#

dont put too much thought into wowanal giving you red X on convoke

spark river
#

Yeah if you can convoke with refo great

#

if not just rip it

inland terrace
#

Fair enough. That's mostly what I'm doing but I just need to make sure to cast SM on CD, because I'm not getting enough refo procs throughout the fight.

tough portal
spark river
#

Squid obviously

ruby zealot
#

hallooo, i was wondering if someone can look at my talents for mythic plus and tell me what i can change or if it needs to be changed. Im still learning resto so any tips or tricks is welcomed

image.png
bright swift
#

play dormancy

ruby zealot
bright swift
#

it increases your rejuv uptime by a lot

#

it's very very good

ruby zealot
#

ohh okay ty ty

ruby zealot
bright swift
#

Harmonious blooming is the worst one

ruby zealot
#

ohh okay, ty ty

zenith lodge
#

Possibly a silly question but does the 35% Regrowth increased heal on myself with the Windstalker Harmonious Constitution Talent work with the echo'd regrowths through Soul of the Forest? Would the two addition applications be buffed too or do we think it would be individual instances?

spark river
bright swift
zenith lodge
#

thank you ā¤ļø

bright swift
#

sorry I misread

zenith lodge
#

no problem, did think that might have been too op šŸ˜„

bright swift
#

I thought you were talking about Nature's Bounty

zenith lodge
#

ahh thats fair

mental dew
bright swift
#

no

mental dew
#

So what's the point of holding it for convoke

thorn plover
#

are you confusing swiftmend for natures swiftness

spark river
#

you dont hold swiftmend for convoke

bright swift
#

it's about reforestation

mental dew
#

I'm just replying to his comment

#

He said you can hold it for maybe 10 seconds

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If you're gonna convoke

thorn plover
#

so you proc refo right before convoke

spark river
#

if there is a damage event within 10 seconds you would hold a swiftmend to turn into a tree before you convoke

mental dew
#

Okay that makes sense thanks

thorn plover
#

if youre 3/4 stacks of refo, and convoke is on cd for 10 seconds, but sm is off cd now, you could hold sm to get refo up for convoke

mental dew
#

Yes perfect, thanks. I understand now

red dew
thorn plover
#

can we get them to make healing spells put you into tree form if you have fluid form please voulk

tough portal
#

So real actually

#

It'd be cool for sure

#

But also would be nice to have a way to remove treant form

#

In this case

gentle nova
#

add it as a glpyph to treant form

thorn plover
#

^

#

my thought exactly

clear oracle
#

Can somebody please explain to me why Blizzard is hell bent on me not seeing anything in my interface? With the latest changes from Blizzard and the resulting changes to DF I know have every debuff known to man permanently on the group frame

spark river
#

Well its not particularly you

#

We re all kinda in the same situation

thorn plover
#

this helps

clear oracle
# thorn plover

Last time I tried that like a week ago I no longer saw debuffs like the glaives in MT or the bleeds in Seat. Did they fnd a workaround?

thorn plover
#

if you check that "all dispellable" you see bleeds

#

blizz really wants us to just use their frames

#

its pretty bad

clear oracle
#

Yeah but even on their frames I can't disable debuffs like Exhaustion

thorn plover
#

true

clear oracle
#

It is just so frustrating that I have to change up my interface basically every week compared to before when I did it once a season at most

strange wren
#

This is probably a dense question- but is there a way to get the dispell for Dreamrift to show on grid2 frames?

thorn plover
#

should show, but cant highlight your frames

#

ive been mousing over the physical player with the big blue circle around them

#

seems much easier lol

bright swift
strange wren
hardy canopy
#

if i want to play around dream of cenarius, at what target count it would be worth to only starfire for healing? with and w/o call

thorn plover
#

go do some math

#

lol

main timber
#

As opposed to casting healing spells?

#

This question is too awkward for math even. Do you just mean in raw HPS? Are you comparing it to a rejuv or refreshing lifebloom?

fervent mica
spare sand
#

I will gladly use blizzards frames ehen they make it playable for resto

hasty blade
#

Didn't nick use blizz frames for resto

thorn plover
#

he built different

dry moon
#

^ this

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i know a lot of people who have used default frames for a long, long time, and they seem content with it. i think for me, personally, i would prefer to be able to do more with what they offer, and if they make that happen i will gladly use it

spare sand
#

If nick is some rwf player then still i will gladly use them when theyre usable by resto

hardy canopy
# main timber As opposed to casting healing spells?

yes and no. ofc i'll keep lb and rejuvs rolling, but, i'm talking about huge pulls like AA and 5+ targets with call, if starfire spam would handle moderate aoe damage, or even funnel a lot of healing onto the tank only

fallen compass
#

He played Resto rwf on last boss, not sure about other bosses.

dry moon
#

he played whatever healer they wanted him to play for the others

spare sand
#

Im 24 getting old cant see anything on blizzards frames

dry moon
#

i think resto was used for midnight falls by him and the rest of the bosses were like priest or pres, i can't remmeber

spare sand
#

Maybe theybwould be better if i was 18

dry moon
#

24 is old???????

fallen compass
#

I'm more than twice that age.

spare sand
#

F

cerulean stratus
#

default is kinda cool

thorn plover
fallen compass
#

Granted I don't use dfault.

dry moon
#

i know it's like beating a dead horse at this point, but i still can't wrap my head around why they are doing things like the way they have. it's been such a headache. but they know better ig? idk

thorn plover
#

daddy blizzard says we dont know what we want

dry moon
#

but i have a phone

spare sand
#

You think that you do but you dont

#

Remember

clear oracle
hardy canopy
dry moon
hardy canopy
#

oh

dry moon
#

nick is a goat

spare sand
#

They just want every one to switxh to holy pala where you dont track anything and their frames are great

dry moon
#

one day i will not complain about what i can and cannot see on my frames. one day.

spare sand
#

Yeah when the last titan is over and theyll close servers

thorn plover
#

lol highly unlikely

spare sand
#

True but i wonder what theyll do since there just wont be anything more xd

dry moon
#

wow2

thorn plover
#

wym wont be anything more

spare sand
#

What will there be

thorn plover
#

we go to yet another planet that doesnt make sense

#

we kill azeroth

spare sand
#

Mhm

dry moon
#

world of starcraft

spare sand
#

Xdd

clear oracle
#

The story does not make any sense pretty much right after Frozen throne ended. Why would they start caring about it now?

thorn plover
#

ive never paid attention to the story and i dont plan to start

#

i know nothing about anything when it comes to lore

#

i just kill the guy and get the loot

spare sand
#

I mean xd what power beside friendship can they introduce stronger than light or void

dry moon
#

i stopped paying attention when they tried the whole "the jailor is actually why everything for the past twenty years has happened" thing

granite sparrow
thorn plover
#

oh i see it

#

thats unhalted

dry moon
#

the number

thorn plover
#

/uf, player, power bar

granite sparrow
#

i only found where to hide/show the mana bar but doesn't change the number itself

thorn plover
#

tags

clear oracle
dry moon
#

i can't wait to see illidan again

spare sand
#

If that's what theyre going to do since there areny any void lords then what can i say

#

Peak cinema

abstract ember
#

is it worth taking harmonious blooming if you swap lifebloom targets for heavy dot damage? (in m+)

granite sparrow
thorn plover
#

change it to [curpp:manapercent]

#

look down bottom right

#

Power Tags dropdown box

granite sparrow
#

ye it's perfect, these combo points arent from that addon are they?

image.png
thorn plover
#

might be secondary power bar

#

no i dont think it is

#

atleast mine looks completely different when i enable it

granite sparrow
#

it looks exactly like a weakaura i have but since its double it's not it

#

i'll look into it but thanks

abstract ember
#

what are you trying to do btw?

thorn plover
#

theyre ditching QUI

#

so setting everything up from scratch

abstract ember
#

I mean if youre looking for mana stuff have you tried senseis resource bars?

#

I used em with the cdm to make my own weakaura basically lmfao

thorn plover
#

arcui makes super nice resource bars too
kot7k was just trying to change the mana value to a % instead

abstract ember
#

I know you do that easily with resource bars. I havent ehard of or tried the other one though so cant say for that one sorry

#

cause I got mine like this

#

this might make it a bit clearer. just sits there liek that though

#

(the gap is for cat mod as I have a bar for combo points + one for energy)

plain marsh
abstract ember
#

gimme a second, I swapped to another game to do my dailies. lemme do these ill swap back and check for you

thorn plover
#

looks like blizzard

granite sparrow
#

tried a m+ everything is perfect except that one

thorn plover
granite sparrow
#

me too, maybe QUI had something for them probably that's the case

thorn plover
#

im sure it did

#

quazi used to sell plater profiles, so im sure it was baked into his ui

granite sparrow
#

ye makes sense

abstract ember
#

I use plater but I just took an import I liked for it

thorn plover
#

yeah im using jundies

#

have forever

abstract ember
#

Is it good? I just grabbed a decent looking one that was colour coded ngl

thorn plover
#

i think its the most popular one

#

theyre all likely fairly similar now that they dont allow much custom scripting

abstract ember
#

makes sense

#

btw when you swiftmend how do you decide if you use it on rejuvs or regrowths?

spark river
#

rejuv

#

just rejuv it

thorn plover
#

the answer is almost always rejuv

#

exception m+

#

if lot group members hurt: regrowth

abstract ember
#

so in m+ rejuv unless theyre taking damage or hurt then regrowth?

thorn plover
#

damage coming soon = rejuv
damage happened = regrowth

#

little damage happened = rejuv

abstract ember
#

damage happening would also be regrowth?

thorn plover
#

if they need that much healing and you have rejuvs out

#

sure

#

need those mastery stacks for it to hit hard

#

but if damage is happening you should have already prepped with rejuvs

abstract ember
#

cause I did a skyreach and the dots just hurt like heal, even with like wildgrowth rejuv and pumping regrowths it was s till a struggle

haughty ibex
abstract ember
#

the main one was the second boss dot and the one the two adds put out

#

looks like a green blade I dunno the name sorry

#

I find even with regrowth rejuv and wildgrowth and spamming regrowth on them its still a struggle

plush spoke
#

it feels like as im entering 12s and higher, i end up in pulls where 1 person dies. there might be 2-3 deaths in the dungeon that occur simply from me not being able to heal them quick enough. i always have HoTs rolling, but i just run out of spot healing (they die before regrowth cast goes off)

#

am i doing something wrong?

haughty ibex
marsh prism
plush spoke
#

i'd like to think im pretty quick too. i iron bark, swiftmend, nature swiftness into big regrowths. idk if it's me or my dps just dogshit not kicking/stopping

plush spoke
abstract ember
haughty ibex
marsh prism
hardy canopy
marsh prism
#

is targetedspells still not currently broken

thorn plover
#

No it works

plush spoke
hardy canopy
#

it works but not on frames

marsh prism
hardy canopy
#

you just have to check the player name lmao

pulsar kettle
#

its ass

haughty ibex
#

it works not on frames so m+ bars works just as good

marsh prism
#

fucking game man

hardy canopy
#

awful

thorn plover
#

You just class color names and it's fine

haughty ibex
#

but u can see the dot that leaves on people

marsh prism
#

it seems like a big article but if you are serious about improving it is worth the "setup"

thorn plover
#

How are you nance

haughty ibex
abstract ember
#

ib?

haughty ibex
#

ironbark

abstract ember
#

I was being dumb sorry lmfao

marsh prism
#

its a multiple caffeine bev kind of day

thorn plover
#

I wish caffeine had any effect on me

marsh prism
#

going to make good prog on alleria in like..10 hours

abstract ember
thorn plover
#

I can drink a monster and go to bed

spark river
#

I have in fact drank a coffee and a monster today and am somehow alive

marsh prism
#

uni has white monster in the vending machines its really over for me

thorn plover
#

My heart would explode. I love that stuff

#

During hockey season I drink a pile of it lol

marsh prism
#

idk what my second bev will be tho maybe not that maybe just a sfrb

thorn plover
#

Gives me a boost but doesn't make me stay awake

formal plaza
#

Hey... is the Crucible of Erractic Energies really that good? QE says to use it over the like 8 other trinkets I have.

marsh prism
#

unfortunately it could be yes

formal plaza
#

Ok just makin sure... thx

thorn plover
#

Only if you have it upgraded

formal plaza
#

Its 6/6 champion...

thorn plover
#

At the thingy in voidstorm

#

Not that upgrade

formal plaza
#

tell me more

thorn plover
#

You have to do weekly quests in voidstorm to get upgrades for it

#

If you don't have those it's not nearly as good as it sims

formal plaza
#

The more you know

#

thanks Purr

marsh prism
static vortex
#

so.. latest changes to resto they just released.. this is a nerf now right? for the .5 patch?

main timber
#

Still a big buff relative to live

pulsar kettle
#

still big buff

hazy spoke
#

Is apex going to be better than apexless in raid?

main timber
#

Very likely

static vortex
#

loses 2 triggers on blooming frenzy

sand spruce
#

I think I'm a little confused on the wording - what makes the new version of everbloom stronger than the current one?

hazy tapir
#

hello druids i do not know how important the apex is in m+ how big is -2 triggers

thorn plover
#

Rank 2

hazy tapir
#

and 10% less healing on the other thing

main timber
pulsar kettle
#

the 2/3 rank changes are insanely strong.

main timber
hazy tapir
#

oh ok

main timber
#

Also this change has been on PTR in some form for a while lmao

#

They just forgot to post it

hazy tapir
#

i guess i will continue to gear it for sales

thorn plover
#

If they posted it I wonder if it changes any more in the next 7 days

mystic lichen
#

helllo! i am new to druid , but i managed to reach 3.450 rating in m+ , and im starting to have some struggles in 17's ... i was wondering if Keeper of the grove is viable , from what i see on the hero talent nodes they are more healing focused than Wildstalker

fervent mica
#

less healing in 5 man content

nimble frost
#

Evening peeps. Is cultivation bugged? I ran a 9 to test it out and it didn't register on the meters, and the tooltip would suggest this as it shows an absurdly low value.

grand herald
#

not for damage

fervent mica
marsh prism
mystic lichen
#

sometimes it feels like i cant top up people ? even if full hots are on , it feels like regrowth is not doing much..

#

not really used to the full cat form and thats where i cant benefit from some wildstalker hero nodes to the max

main timber
#

How much mastery do you have Susge

tough portal
mystic lichen
#

Im sitting on 1,173 mastery and 1,157 haste atm

tough portal
#

I dont think there's any other healing spec in the game that does more healing to any 1 target than resto druid with 4 hots up and spamming Regrowth

mystic lichen
#

im trying the pick of Reforestation and it seems it can synergise better with keeper of the grove?

tough portal
#

Something's afoot

fervent mica
ocean tusk
atomic mirage
main timber
nimble frost
hardy canopy
mystic lichen
tough portal
atomic mirage
#

Doesnt mean that its good tho i parse bad on dmg but also i just suck at rdruid @mystic lichen

tough portal
austere bloom
#

at least with the new talent they can adjust raid/M+ separately with the number of targets it hits.

tough portal
#

Yeah tbh 6 targets sounds a little lame lmao

atomic mirage
#

But rdruid is so good that even a bad rdruid can do 18/19s rn šŸ˜­

ocean tusk
grand herald
#

you are comparing it to a hypothetical apex that never hit live

tough portal
mystic lichen
ocean tusk
#

OH

#

I see

#

I see

#

thank you

#

like i said dumb

#

me

#

dumb

tough portal
#

Well, similar splash maybe not more

#

But on 5 vs 2 targets, big buff

main timber
#

The note is confusing because they compared it to an earlier PTR iteration, not to live

atomic mirage
#

I needed a break after

#

And went housing lmao

opaque steeple
#

nerf again? sad :d

ocean tusk
grand herald
grand herald
main timber
#

It's so funny actually. Half the community thinks we just got nerfed, meanwhile we are absurdly buffed

solid mantle
rapid halo
#

very confusing

tough portal
atomic mirage
#

Well good thing i picked up rdruid

opaque steeple
atomic mirage
#

šŸ™„šŸ™„

hardy canopy
#

what's confusing lol

grand herald
#

compare it to whats in the notes

#

spot the differences

ocean tusk
#

so current apex says all lifebloom healing, and the notes say lifeblooms final bloom, does that mean currently all lifebloom healing splashes, and we're moving to just the "bloom" is splashing?

grand herald
#

yes

main timber
#

Yes though that includes all types of blooms

#

PhoSy, Apex4 etc

hardy canopy
#

2 > 6 targets
30% > 50%

ocean tusk
grand herald
#

we proc blooms pretty sustained

uncut lion
#

Any add on recommendations? Iā€™ve made it pretty far this season with just the in game meter and default UI

grand herald
#

with phosy and apex 4

main timber
atomic mirage
#

What does lifeblooms final bloom mean @main timber?

hardy canopy
#

now just make power of the archdruid 40yd and gg

pulsar kettle
#

its any bloom.

atomic mirage
#

Like how does rank 2 work on ptr

grand herald
sly pivot
#

Does anyone have any UI recommendations for healing? Looking for something I can take as a base and customise as I learn what I need?

main timber
#

It's just the non-HoT part of lifebloom

#

So when it expires, or when Photosynth procs, or when you trigger Apex4

marsh prism
mental brook
#

Do we happen to know when this goes live?

atomic mirage
#

Mmm do u guys btw keep lifebloom on one target

#

Or keep switching it?

#

Or do we loose hps switching it in m+ scenarios

ocean tusk
main timber
#

Yeah "final bloom" is confusing but also I dont know what else they'd call it

fervent mica
mental brook
#

Sweet, ty

wide slate
#

Photo/Harmonious with new apex in raid maybe?

opaque steeple
#

But is it a good buff for Mythic+ or more focused on raids?

main timber
#

Yes builds will be updated next week 100%

opaque steeple
#

ohhh

forest pollen
#

When you guys are raid healing and swapping to regrowth do you only regrowth when abundance is 12 stacks? I feel like by the time I get 12 reguv out I can only cast like 2 regrowths before I gotta start getting them back up

fickle garden
#

Is the new apex a buff or nerf

#

Iā€™m hearing both

runic dew
#

are these nerfs?

forest pollen
#

adding in swiftmends and wildgrowths

wide slate
#

its a buff

marsh prism
#

holy moly

main timber
thorn plover
#

This place gonna be interesting for a couple days

atomic mirage
thick summit
#

HELLO IS THIS A BUFF OR NERF I CANT READ

pulsar kettle
grand herald
marsh prism
main timber
#

There is no set number, it depends on how much danger the raid is in. It's still efficient at medium stacks

forest pollen
atomic mirage
#

Kk ty

thorn plover
thick summit
fickle garden
#

Congrats on your giga buffs Druids but also fuck you - From a bitter holy paladin

thick summit
#

i am crunching the numbers

rustic copper
#

guys did we get buffed

atomic mirage
marsh prism
atomic mirage
#

Im also a priest main

#

Everything will be fine

thin summit
#

is being able to target wild growth on enemies something that's been a thing since forever?

rustic copper
#

were there changes\

main timber
rapid halo
#

lets pin a post - "We just got Buffed. Thank You"

#

lol

main timber
#

Can do it in Classic even

thin summit
#

it's slightly annoying I wonder why it's a thing scrajj

thorn plover
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But worded it as a nerf

fervent mica
thorn plover
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By comparing to the original PTR change

marsh prism
sinful summit
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wild growth on enemy can be super useful

thin summit
indigo inlet
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Why we get nerfed

hardy canopy
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last boss MT is a good example of wild growth on enemy

fervent mica
rapid halo
rustic copper
sacred wasp
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is it not technically a nerf but still an overall buff?

main timber
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The old PTR version was never tested to work anyway

fervent mica
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they posted a change to a change...

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i think its because they're mad at you voulk

indigo inlet
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Buff guys pog

fervent mica
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personal attack/100

thorn plover
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Voulk what did you give away for this buff btw

marsh prism
runic dew
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the r druid changes are a buff in m+

fervent mica
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everywhere

hardy canopy
indigo inlet
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Is it apex in raid probably with this buff

thorn plover
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Definitely

indigo inlet
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Huge

atomic mirage
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I read our old apex and the ptr one

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I have no clue

onyx trail
# fervent mica everywhere

what about in a very specific instance where there are 3 players but only 2 of them are actively taking damage usually Vappy_nervous

atomic mirage
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All this flower shit cant go into my brain

hollow shell
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are people taking Convoke instead of Tree in raid? Archon seems to be saying that

atomic mirage
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I need a Rdruid for dummies guide

proven phoenix
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luckily for u there are many

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something about cathedrals for those with eyes to see etc

fervent mica
proven phoenix
fickle garden
hollow shell
fervent mica
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both versions of the build cast wg a ton

proven phoenix
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the more popular build is to not take apex

hollow shell
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wait ignore me

proven phoenix
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but either works again

hollow shell
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im confusing for tier

proven phoenix
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yes

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wg is good

vocal sage
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Iā€™ve had my head under a rock, what is the change now from live?

main timber
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More targets, higher healing transfer, blooms-only though and 3 blooms on Apex 4 instead of 5

drowsy solar
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So what did they change in Midnight that made druids do 0 damage in m+ after being the biggest healer dps in keys? Or have I just ran into many who just don't try?

main timber
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We just got a much smaller DPS buff than other healers

vocal sage
main timber
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Add MotW damage and we look ok

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But yes I think it could go up a bit. Just hard to buff a dominant M+ spec

lyric surge
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other healers also do more aoe than we do don't they?

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makes them look better on meters

hazy spoke
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How competitive is wildstalker in raid? I was getting healsniped last week in raid as KotG, but when I swapped to wildstalker I was able to just increase throughput to the point it didnā€™t matter. (We had too many healers, and doing heroic)

drowsy solar
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I've seen so many 0-5k Rdruid dps

main timber
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Yeah it's definitely true that our AoE is especially weak

main timber
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You will basically never hear a skilled healer talking about sniping

hazy spoke
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Yeah, Iā€™m more talking about the overall throughput is too high for the content, so people arenā€™t leaving full health

main timber
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Yeah ideally you'd drop healers but I know it isn't always possible

hazy spoke
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Couldnā€™t tell if wildstalker was ā€˜helpingā€™, or if the others just started easing up

main timber
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Trying to optimize for that scenario is pointless anyway since the premise is you have too much healing

hazy spoke
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Makes sense

hollow shell
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how competitive is KotG in M+? I got curious and saw the #8 guy was using it

grizzled hollow
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I guess this nerfs spothealing a bit in M+, but generally seems like an upgrade, or am I crazy?

hazy spoke
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Is reforestation going to still be a key talent in raid once the apex change goes live?

main timber
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Build TBA. You need to fit a lot more talents in so points get rough

grizzled hollow
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looks hard to slot in refo

vocal sage
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I hope not, I hate refo

cursive valve
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So I noticed on dreamgrove.gg that the resto druid M+ build doesn't take typhoon is there a reason why wouldn't we want some for of an interrupt ?

vocal sage
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Must be good having an easy life

rugged grail
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So we go from 2 allies to 6? worryWhatDidIJustRead wtf stonks

open ferry
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@grizzled hollow i dont believe its nerf to m+ no

vocal sage
lyric surge
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our healing has like zero issues

rugged grail
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Do you think the change on apex warrants using Photosynthesis?

pulsar kettle
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yes

fervent mica
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probably

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wait for numbers

rugged grail
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yeee, was just curious 2_peposhy exciting change

hazy spoke
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Would we drop germination and reforestation for photo and embrace?

fervent mica
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no

night sorrel
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Anyone have a good place to see where the DRs for stats are for resto ?

fervent mica
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listen to qe

night sorrel
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roger

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thats what I've been doing tbf

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should i just do that for every spec then as well? I do all three and use QE for resto and raidbots for boomkin and also kinda guardian ( except that doesnt equate to survivability )

main timber
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Yep basically

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If you have follow up questions you can always ask too

night sorrel
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awesome ty