resto

[abstract ember]

yeah so you'll move it within reason

still worth moving even if I dont run hormonious blooming?

[grand herald]

our apex is very strong

[abstract ember]

im assuming the bloom is when you refresh it close to expiring, that would be the bloom?

[pastel dragon]

When you consume soul of the forest, the LB target gets 5 blooms rapidly

So you can control it in that aspect

[onyx trail]

5 big blooms

[pastel dragon]

Omega blooms

[abstract ember]

this might sound like a dumb question but what is the bloom itself?

cause I thought the bloom was when you refresh it slightly before it expired

[proven phoenix]

it blooms anyway

if it expires

photo makes it bloom

apex talents make it bloom

its just a burst of instant healing when it expires or with some other interactions

[abstract ember]

gotcha, thank ya. I wasnt 100% sure

[tough portal]

Thanks phased

[proven phoenix]

👍

[pastel dragon]

I think on the healing meters though it is included in life blooms healing and everbloom is the splash healing

[proven phoenix]

in game meters are completely broken

never rely on those

[abstract ember]

cause I saw it says it blooms but never saw where it said what a bloom is so I never really got what it was

I just assumed ot did more healing when it bloomed up until now lmfao

[pastel dragon]

Details too?

[proven phoenix]

details is just a skin

it doesnt do anything differently

[pastel dragon]

Ah ok ok

[abstract ember]

It really is

actually I can help with this one

[pastel dragon]

Are post pull logs accurate and just what im seeing in real time is wrong?

[grand herald]

logs are accurate

[proven phoenix]

yes logs are fine

[pastel dragon]

I see

[abstract ember]

I checked with the ingame one theire are basically exactly the same lmfao

I might just use the ingame one tbh

[proven phoenix]

yeah u can use whatever

I like the details skin more but they are the exact same otherwise

[abstract ember]

yeah, I find details is neater in layout

to me anyways

[fallen compass]

I think the details one is used more because it's easier to manipulate the size of the window than native.

[proven phoenix]

all this to say base sucks balls

[abstract ember]

yeah the in game one is slightly to big for my screen so I cant sit it nicely where I had details

think thats why I used details still tbh

[bold grail]

Cat works on one of the beams of second boss of pit of saron, theres another one that kills you if it gets off... I didnt have anything for that and got bombed

DPS not kicking amirite

[solid hornet]

got alleria done in a pug today (oof), looking at my logs and would love advice. I died at the very end to something dumb. Looks like I need more lifebloom / efflo uptime, need to use swiftmend better, and i'm either way over rejuvving or under regrowthing? would love thoughts if anyone has time.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/T8GJ3XdzqjaVmCwf?fight=8&type=healing&source=435

[grand herald]

biggest problem is you just arent casting in general

40 cpm is low

of course, WG usage can be better, SM usage is good but could be slightly better, LB uptime is terrible

and yeah, you could be casting more RGs as compared to RJs

[solid hornet]

thank you! that all makes sense

are we taking apex in raid these days?

[grand herald]

you can

its pretty close to non apex

[solid hornet]

cool, thanks

[lyric badger]

hello, i see resto druids are casting thrash in m+, but when i try to use it, it says only usable in bear form and doesn't work with fluid form. are we supposed to spend 2 gcds shifting to bear and thrashing?

[pastel dragon]

Im not sure if its optimal but ive just been doing it if im already going to bear form for one reason or another

[polar lichen]

if you have literally nothing else to do with those gcds, why not

[gentle charm]

my dudes has our lifebloom bloom sound been replaced with the seed of corruption sound or am i going crazy?

[lyric badger]

i've always prioed rake spreading and cat autoing over bear thrashing,. interesting though, ty!

[pastel dragon]

Like I imagine on a big pull theres decent value to getting an aoe dot out at least once

Usually when I roar

[lyric badger]

yup valid

[hexed lagoon]

I'm looking to get into healing and potentially choosing rdruid.. what are big things you think I should know before pulling the trigger on this as my choice?

My other choice is RSham.

[urban bone]

You should know that you’ll be a cool owner playing a fun class

[proven phoenix]

[hexed lagoon]

huuuh

[urban bone]

Id prob read the wowhead guide and see if it sounds fun to you

[hexed lagoon]

tbf both sound fun and fine to me, I'm just wanting people's opinions.

or i guess, if there is any weird things that might not make me want to choose the spec.

😄

[urban bone]

This season is my first time healing retail and I’m glad I chose resto Druid. It’s fun and dynamic and satisfying to me 🤷

[oak garnet]

R druid is probably the most fun healer to pick up because of how different it feels to play m+ and raid. You play dif hero trees and the playstyle (at least on live now) is fairly different from dungeons to raid. It's also a highly rewarding class if you choose to raid

[gentle nova]

Itll take a lot of effort and practice to learn druid

Rshaman is stupid easy

[upbeat flame]

Is there a way via the CDM to see/hear when my Tree form procs from reforestation? Like a sound effect or a TTS "TREE" or something?

[thorn plover]

nope

i was outside, did you get it figured out

also ive changed mine to only 3 ticks since you never actually see the 4th

[alpine coral]

Hello, does buff from Nature Swiftness buff every regrowth that is cast by convoke? So pressing Nature Swiftness before it is beneficial?

[thorn plover]

correct

[marsh prism]

it can be

ns is also a good tool itself

so don't hold ns just for convoke you should also have a bind for it separately

[fervent mica]

only one of those classes has a kick... soo

[fluid shadow]

I remember reading somewhere that crit is an actual DPS loss for Resto druid - but I can't remember what the reason is. Can someone enlighten me =p

[thorn plover]

🤨

[main timber]

That's not and has never been a thing

[autumn hull]

Might be hps you're thinking of, and while that is still untrue technically, it's our worst secondary so it could be true relatively

[granite sparrow]

i didn't, kinda gave up because in my mind it was on the place i sent the screenshot

[thorn plover]

its on this screen

i can send you the import for mine if you like

[granite sparrow]

i was kinda proud of mine after so much time invested but ye if you can send i appreciate it 😄

[granite sparrow]

did i do something wrong? it started as 2 and doesn't update

[thorn plover]

are you on preview?

[granite sparrow]

i don't think so

oh i was because when i left menu it disappeared

[thorn plover]

yeah if aui menu is open it previews everything

should turn green when you get the 3rd stack, so you know next one triggers refo

[granite sparrow]

then i'm completely lost, how do i make it permanent and not just a preview?

or do you have it hidden out of combat

maybe its that

[thorn plover]

yes hidden solo

click edit

then scroll to bottom and open behavior

[granite sparrow]

now i see it but it doesn't work, i'm so lost

[thorn plover]

are you tracking refo in cdm

looks like you are

you closed the menu after you changed that right

[granite sparrow]

yes

even mine stopped worked for some reason

[thorn plover]

idk reload and try it lol

[granite sparrow]

after reload mine works yours doesn't 😢

[thorn plover]

lmao

[marsh prism]

impressing the homies with my drip

[robust flume]

Does it make sense to LB myself in the raid if people are stacked on me? Or do you always LB a tank?

[thorn plover]

self is fine

tank is often off by himself in a lot of fights

[granite sparrow]

i think this option is turning off everytime i reload and that's the issue o.o

[drifting timber]

what are the diff stacks?

[granite sparrow]

the bars are both for reforestation, one resets on 4 the other shows 3 and then resets, same functionality i guess

[thorn plover]

i have that disabled

oh the cooldown manager checkbox

ya that needs to be on or it doesnt work

[granite sparrow]

i have something disabling it, i remember arcui used to spam "change cooldown manager settings" but i pressed "dont show again" and it still resets

will never find it though i guess

[autumn hull]

Can search cooldown manager settings or w/e it was in the searchbar

And it'll populate options for every default Blizzard option matching it as well as addon options

Even if you don't find the exact right checkbox for the specific addon maybe it'll jog your memory

[granite sparrow]

that's what i did, i only get those 2 options and keybinds for cdm

[autumn hull]

Time to disable all your addons one by one until you find it ig

[granite sparrow]

ye it's probably from QUI because when something breaks its always from QUI 😐

[thorn plover]

why are you still using that lol

[autumn hull]

Bruh please stop using that how is it even working still

[granite sparrow]

they made a lot of updates and i haven't been having problems lately i guess ;_; my UI without it is pure ew

yup just tested, it's from QUI, surprise suprise..

gonna ask on their discord, thank you all for your help

[fierce isle]

Any insights into why we are recommended to play Potent Enchantments with Non apex and Grove's inspiration with Apex?

[soft dagger]

Does anyone here play with 150-200 ping. I feel that in raid higher ping severly affect my rej spreading since I have to wait for it to register(often with need to spam at least 2 click for one rej to register) on one person before move on to the next, effectly cost me precious time. It is so frustrating. How is your experience raiding at higher ping?

[graceful ermine]

You can set your spell queue window to be longer to compensate

I mean it will feel kind of bad/weird, but it will make sure you don’t miss fractions of globals

[tough portal]

No reason to change it from default

400 default spell queue window is perfectly fine at 200ms

Might double cast something you only meant to use once at 100% haste sometimes but you learn to play around it

[soft dagger]

oh I see, let me try. yeah probably will have just to get used it

[tough portal]

I think you're just not understanding / aware of spell queueing, but idk how to explain it either, you just move on before the gcd is up to another target

Kinda like how you can move early for a mechanic cuz you're 200ms behind positionally

[clever tiger]

bad ping messes up reacting to procs, but it shouldn't matter if you are just going rejuv from one person to another

[soft dagger]

@tough portal you are right, I will have to look into it @clever tiger yep that's what i think as well. Maybe just me not yet get used it and playing it wrong on the most part

[hardy canopy]

i play with 150-170 and it feels sluggish at 400 but i don't fully understand sqw

i aim at my current latency + 100

[cunning parcel]

As someone who is oce ping is something you will get somewhat used to over time but it will always feel unresponsive and janky. You kinda just have to deal with it and work around it

I can just queue oce which is nice but it sounds like there isn’t a server where you are with what your saying

[proven phoenix]

ping is one of those things where its really bad if you're spiking constantly but if its a stable 100-150 ms its playable

beyond 150 ms I think gameplay experience degrades quite a bit though tbh

once you get used to ping its fine, just keep moving between targets and the spell queue window will help you

[burnt jackal]

what are people doing for targeted spells right now? I cant see anything on frames, and if I turn the bars on it whos whole group, and if i turn it to self only, it shows nothing?

[proven phoenix]

not using it

its too jank

[burnt jackal]

is there no way to watch for casts on yourself besides plates?

[proven phoenix]

not that I know of that doesnt also show every cast as a bar

[lofty zinc]

I just moved the bars to Narnia and have to look at the nameplates, as we are spreading rakes and rips anyway it's okay ish. Party frame display would be premium tho

[thorn plover]

mythic dungeon casts

targeted spells in general is pretty broken rn

shows maybe half of actual stuff

[thorn whale]

Chinese logs played flourish all of last season

Did you?

[thorn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/where-it-came-comes-from-china-trump-gif-6605457841231649362

[fleet jewel]

for cat build w/ starfire in m+, how many targets to press starfire?

[grand herald]

its the window you have to be able to queue your next spell, meaning if you dont queue within that window, you are losing cast time, bigger is usually better

[plain steeple]

But too big makes decision changes impossible.

[grand herald]

nah, your sqw doesnt lock in stuff

you can always overwrite with a different press

[plain steeple]

Then it got changed recently. That wasn’t the case in the past.

[grand herald]

always been that way

[plain steeple]

I had to lower the window when they released it, because it always locked in spells that I did not press as last spell.

[twilit galleon]

do you always convoke on tol? i try to align them at the beginning but the longer the fight the more dificult it get to use convoke on cooldown with optimal settings

it feel weird to not use it at the start, always feeling that i miss a cast

[balmy spire]

Most of the time at the fight starts isnt any dmg event... so yes, its usless most of the times

[twilit galleon]

that's why i wait for reforest to give me tol then i cast convoke, but convoke timer is not aligned with 4 swiftmends. so i have multiple occurences where convoke is off cd but tol is not close to be available through reforest

how do you do? convoke without tol or wait for tol?

[proven phoenix]

depends on what im doing and what the boss is doing

I try and line the two up but I dont grief my swiftmends for it

like im not going to hold a swiftmend for 15 seconds just to line up convoke and reforest

[twilit galleon]

i'm more talking about parsing than survivability

my roster is well on heal. I try to optimize what i can because actually convoke feel weird to play

like is it optimal to wait 30+ second for next tol?

i guess not

[proven phoenix]

its not

im also talking about healing

[odd jacinth]

ive been pretty much sending swiftmend on CD not trying too hard to align convoke and tree. If at 3 stacks and convoke will be off CD soon I might delay, but it doesnt feel like when we played this style in sepulcher where you had to do it, sometimes even cancel some casts

cancel some buffs I mean

[storm kettle]

This is the current top alleria convoke (public) log

[proven phoenix]

I think u should just play the game man, hyper analysing logs this way isnt good

[thorn whale]

Yeah idk, I’ll just vibe with whatever until meta is decided and then roll with that

I’m not making any decisions rn based on current logs

(In m+ that is)

Playing the game properly >> any talent build

So yeah

[balmy spire]

Top logs arent that good to see what you should do imho... depens on your setup... cooldown timings etc...

[thorn whale]

You talking raid now?

[balmy spire]

talking about the screenshot above

[thorn whale]

So yeah

[balmy spire]

see vorasius, imho a bad enc for druid... one of the best timings for my tranq would be the roar... my evoker using rewind there, so top logs doesnt matter that much

[cunning parcel]

Taking account the 15 seconds extra you get of cd I felt like I could get a reforestation easily for every convoke

On alleria h I haven’t done m

(Apart from the first)

[bronze meadow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZKAxGvLcV8rNQ49m?fight=10&type=healing

if anyone has the time to help, I’d love to do better in raid, lmk ❤️

[thorn whale]

I mean yes and no

Healer logs are in general either inflated or deflated by the skill of your cohealers and class balance

But there is a correlation between good logs and good play as well

So looking at top logs for CPM/cast priority/cast sequences makes a lot of sense

[limpid jacinth]

when I close my eyes and try to sleep, I keep hearing “lifebloom!”

[thorn whale]

Most important:

Your SM usage is not the best. It’s important you cast it on CD, and you use it to extend your lifebloom and 2x rejuv.

I see that you’re using a mana pot and your LB uptime is only 88%. Increasing SM casts to extend will help with your mana (higher abundance stacks) and LB uptime.

When you don’t need manapot anymore you should use recklessness pot, and fit in 2 uses if you can.

Also you should macro your natures swiftness into your convoke for raid, or try to remember pressing it before pressing convoke, up to you

[twilit galleon]

experimenting on what could be best exist by playing the game

when you look at viserio we can see that the meta isn't fixed yet.
Convoke seems the most used but i suspect it could be because reforestation make Tree of Life CD a nightmare to track.
For convoke usage, some use it first second, others wait for Reforest to proc and line it with tranquility

[cunning parcel]

you missed a free convoke and it also looks like you arent syncing reforestation up with convoke much

[twilit galleon]

i feel very powerfull when i use it just after reforest proc

but it's a long time (30 sec) not using convoke

with it and Bloodlust i usually manage to get 12 abundance, wild growth and 6 / 7 regrowth running

tranquility + convoke make all of that very sexy

but it might not be worth it

[cunning parcel]

das alot of hots

[split charm]

What are currently the toughest dungeons to heal ?

[twilit galleon]

i usually have 20 player full regrowth + full wild growth just before running out of abundance

[cunning parcel]

whats ur ign?

[twilit galleon]

but i feel i'm still missing something

[twilit galleon]

ign?

[cunning parcel]

in game name

[twilit galleon]

in game name?

oh Ensemble-Ysondre

[cunning parcel]

ur casting rejuv alottttt

[balmy spire]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8CDwJxbzg7v96Wha?fight=23&type=healing&source=43

best example

[twilit galleon]

yeah i still have lot to improve once mid fight

[balmy spire]

only 55 rg

you can nearly spam that on that encounter

[cunning parcel]

I had the same issue starting off, you want to bring rejuv and regrowth as close together in casts as possible

like 1:1 ideally, I usually end up with more rejuvs than regrowths though

[balmy spire]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/X2c6vkyCWZN9PHbn?fight=23&type=healing&source=12
that was mine kill

[cunning parcel]

ur gapping tf out of me in cpm wtf lol

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/f4tL1jWpFwZGkb9m?fight=14&type=casts&source=119

[balmy spire]

we 4 healed that shit >_< and imho we miss alot of dps

[twilit galleon]

wtf you casting that much

[cunning parcel]

I think for your next raid focus heavily on the ramp spend cycle

ramp up to 12 abudance then spend til you drop to around 7

while maintaining uptime of lifebloom swiftmend and wg

only time I dont cast wg/sm is if I have a reforestation convoke coming up

like within the next 5 seconds

[twilit galleon]

the down i had no idea what i was doing

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/v4jwGk71LAfNtgQX?fight=36&type=casts&source=2

[cunning parcel]

dont tranq before convoke

convoke gets ur hots out tranq extends them

[twilit galleon]

yeah i usually do that but jeez it's so juicy to extend that much hot x)

[white knoll]

Thank you guys for yesterday tips. It helps a lot on Vanguard. Now I think its more of a dps problem
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XbwvKA2hpYQmzZNy?fight=27&type=healing

if you've anymore advices, they're always welcome

[cunning parcel]

this concerns me 😆

how do we have 4 healers parsing well in the same log

[white knoll]

because its a 5-6 healers boss and we're 4 on this pull 😄

[cunning parcel]

cant wait

[thorn whale]

They’re 5 healing a boss that most guilds that are past it has 6 healed

So obviously they’ll parse good

And even then they have 1 death so

[cunning parcel]

yer im not up to it so havent looked into it

[white knoll]

and we've no evoker nor monk. We like it challenging

[thorn whale]

Last wednesday we were 1 of 2 guilds that had killed paladins without a monk 💀

No evoker as well haha

[white knoll]

Damn ! I was wondering if we would be the first 😄
We won't even have this satisfaction
Were you 6 healers ?

[cunning parcel]

do we all just not have any monks or evokers

[thorn whale]

Yup

Most cursed comp on the planet

[balmy spire]

no one wants to play monks after 0.5

16% nerf incoming

same for evokers

[white knoll]

So we're still in track for the "5 healers comp w/o monk or evoker" Vanguard M kill

[livid hearth]

Is this outdated eotation guide? I remember few days ago people were saying u never use sunfire atm

[thorn whale]

Source??

You just made that the fk up

[balmy spire]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamined-class-changes-for-midnight-12-0-5-ptr-build-66591-380972

ok monk dont get

its pvp

[grizzled seal]

There are ptr builds that bring ptr to the state of live

Make sure you aren't linking that either

Once the live patch is released, they stop updating ptr

You often see ptr state be behind live game until they move ptr to the next patch

[balmy spire]

was the last datamining changes

[primal jungle]

that was posted 18 days ago is it accurate

[thorn whale]

For sure not

[grizzled seal]

Was the last datamining that was posted

There were plenty of changes after that and wowhead didn't post them

Wowhead isn't an automated system, they have to manually post those

[lyric surge]

also that's showing their aura going from -12% to -16%. that's not actually a 16% nerf is it? (I don' t do math that well ><)

[thorn whale]

No it’s not

I don’t do math well either

[lyric surge]

yeah I didn't think it was

I don't think it's a straight 4% either

[thorn whale]

But I think it was just their hotfix pushed to PTR

[lyric surge]

but yeah that's about where my math skills break down

[thorn whale]

I don’t even think they’re getting aura nerfed

@main timber help

[balmy spire]

i do, evoker heal overall is too much

[grizzled seal]

Why are we complaining about evokers

They weren't used on either beloren or lura

The spec is good but calling it op is a bit ridiculous

[spark river]

I think monk is a bigger problem tbh

[thorn whale]

Honestly top 4 healer tuning is fine, but the bottom 3 is mega fucked

[grizzled seal]

There is a Chinese saying

"cry is free"

[thorn whale]

Good saying

[grizzled seal]

Playing a spec that has been used in rwf in 3 spots out of 8 for most of prog on the hardest boss and still whining

That's a skill issue for sure

[white knoll]

What the best setup before tranquility ? WG convok swiftmend tranq ?

[balmy spire]

swiftmend -> reju -> wg -> convoke -> tranq

[cerulean nebula]

Is it the return of APEX talents for the druid in RAID?

[white knoll]

Thanks ❤️

[slow pasture]

It was still played

[grizzled seal]

There isn't a single build that everyone agrees on right now

There are people playing with apex and people playing without

[spark river]

But are there builds everyone disagrees on

[marsh prism]

youd think

youd hope, even

alas

[grizzled seal]

Yes

[cerulean nebula]

Yes but with the changes bring with the 12.0.5. It may be interesting to play with the APEX

[balmy spire]

Yes, but no one knows how the apex changes will be finally

[cerulean nebula]

We’ll see then

[gentle nova]

APEX

[balmy spire]

FOR THE APEX !!!!

[trim bluff]

Society when the game is somewhat balanced

[fervent mica]

have run into two separate rdruids in keys playing apex-less ws...

[thorn whale]

Very different from pres and monk changes right

[slow pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[bright swift]

@cyan minnow is Verdancy value from blooms included in apex value

[plain steeple]

You for sure left these groups, didn’t you?

[sudden rover]

Hey guys, quick question. I dont understand how Litany can sim higher than Emerald while Litany offers nothing and give same intel. Emerald gives 40% uptime on a lot of mastery, surely that should result in higher HPS

wrong screenshot on 2nd^ meant to post this

how can I lose 1k hps

[spark river]

is this raid or dungeon sim

[sudden rover]

it feels weird af

[spark river]

litany in dungeon is busted

[sudden rover]

but how? it's same intellect gain and no healing bonus, just a shield

emerald gives mastery

[spark river]

you use it on cd with feral frenzy

[sudden rover]

I'm aware

[spark river]

strong absorb

[sudden rover]

but still

[spark river]

absorbs in m+ are busted

just think about silk

plus its strong damage on aoe packs

[sudden rover]

bruh idk I love receiving 222 mastery, and also giving it to a friend

in my head it's a big gain of time

[spark river]

Gaze is better overall

But if you use litany on cd its very very strong

Check the trinkets tab on qelive

[sudden rover]

ye it's weird

[spark river]

Not really

It makes perfect sense

But your sim is litany vs whistle

not gaze

[sudden rover]

I'm really not seeing how a 15k damage every 90 seconds is better than 40% uptime on 230 mastery for 2 people

[spark river]

Whistle is low uptime

both a damage and an absorb

[sudden rover]

so you would use litany over emerald in keys?

[spark river]

I already do

[sudden rover]

damn

k ty

[sharp pebble]

How are we feeling about the everbloom changes coming on the 21st?

[balmy spire]

We dont know the final changes yet

[thorn plover]

Big buff currently, but they're changing it almost daily right now.

The notes you saw are completely different than what's on PTR. And PTR has changed 3 or 4 times in the past few days

[sharp pebble]

where can i see the latest changes they make to it?

[thorn plover]

Log in to the PTR and check your talents

They haven't posted about it at all

[tidal sigil]

Magisters terrace last boss feels so weird to heal. Any tips? Efflo uptime is non existing and the ticking damage gets somewhat out of hand at times

[thorn plover]

Ask your team to stay as close to the middle as they can when not soaking balls. Target the boss with wildgrowth instead of a player
Use sotf for big regrowths and manually spread rejuvs

It's a weird one for sure

[tidal sigil]

ahh the boss target for WG is huge. didnt think about that at all

ty ty! will try it out

[cunning needle]

Newbie rdruid here. What’s the advantage of targeting the boss with wild growth?

[grizzled seal]

WG search radius is from the target of WG

If you cast WG on someone in the corner it will hit 1-2 players

[spark river]

Boss is in the centre of the room so it will hit everyone

[balmy spire]

dont you always target the boss and use wg ?

[cunning needle]

Honestly I didn’t even know you could target an enemy with a healing spell. GOATED tech, thanks

[balmy spire]

even in raids

[grizzled seal]

No

Some bosses are bad with this

The search is from the center of the hit box

Try doing it on dragons or voracious, you won't get good results

[upper fable]

Looking at some of the m+ builds, what is the argument of playing Verdant infusion over Prosperity? Feels like you are loosing some of the value in the apex tree

[urban kestrel]

I honestly hate proximity heals right now, losing a sotf rejuv or void shield drives me mad.

Verdant infusion is just a giant gcd saver.

I think that's most of it.

[sharp pebble]

do you happen to have a screenshot of the latest change?

[dense lantern]

(It also saves GCDs outside of healing checks so its value is very overblown imho)

[thorn whale]

😡

[vivid owl]

Those using dandersframes, how do you get the dispel on chimaerus to appear? Sometimes things dont show, but i could see all the other dispels in raids. These frames are driving me mad even though they are so good and easy to set up. Sometimes they just randomly switch my hots into numbers too instead of the appearance downloaded from the QE website.

[thorn plover]

^

[sharp pebble]

tyvm

basically the same, just 10% lower than original

[plush cliff]

how viable is spell damage in m+? compared to physical

[thorn plover]

The hots into numbers thing should be fixed. As for chimerus dispels, you're honestly best to look at the actual players and mouseover them , it's much more reliable

[thorn plover]

Aoe fine, single target shit
Overall our DPS sucks either way

[thorn plover]

3 times instead of 5 times rank 3

6 people instead of everyone

[balmy spire]

i hope it goes live like that

would be a great use of apex

[thorn plover]

If it does I'd think we get some other nerf to compensate

[balmy spire]

question is does it means 3x the same 6 persons

or 3x 6 maybe different persons

[thorn plover]

It's smart

[uncut blade]

how do you druids deal with overwhelming informaiton from raid frames. im kinda annoyed at all the green HP bars constnatly flapping and would much rather have HP% only in raid mode

[hasty blade]

I’m assuming that change would mean we aren’t sending SM on LB target anymore to proc final bloom

[balmy spire]

you proc the final bloom with sm anyways

only change will be you play with photo

[hasty blade]

OH

[thorn plover]

You still would, sotf bloom counts too

[balmy spire]

8% chance to bloom

prosperity will be hugeeee also

[thorn plover]

We either have to drop refo or go to 2 min convoke to play this

[balmy spire]

i hate to play with prosperity but seems i need to go for it then

we play no refo and 2 min convoke i think

[uncut blade]

also in yalls raid healing spec. are ppl using convok spirits or tree of life

[thorn plover]

Mostly convoke across the board

Some tree enjoyers out there

[uncut blade]

the insta regrowths are fun

but then i burn through my mana. on long fights

and then im sittin wondering should i hvae just focused on poping wild growth everytime is up and drop 3 rejuvs and call it a day and pop regrowths as needed so many decisions

[balmy spire]

I think thats the play with 0.5

[thorn plover]

As long as you're maintaining abundance stacks, more regrowth should save you mana in the long run. It's cheaper than rejuv at only like 4 or 5 stacks

[uncut blade]

i need pay attention ot that

i think thats what im missing paying attention too. i never think about that in mythic mode

[thorn plover]

1 m convoke is worth more than the 2nd point in tv I think. It also saves you a bunch of mana

If playing ms , which we won't unless it's a long fight anyway

[balmy spire]

rly dunno about wildstalker

[thorn plover]

Huge blooms

[balmy spire]

what does it change?
just symbiotic and growth?

[sudden rover]

isnt this like a big nerf

I think last rank is 5 blooms atm

but now it's 3

[balmy spire]

right now its only 30% to 2 people

it will be 50% to 6 people

so wheres the nerf?

its a huge buff

[sharp pebble]

before it was all lifebloom healing

now its only the bloom

[balmy spire]

lifebloom didnt heal that much anyways imho

[opaque frost]

I’ll take it doing more in raids vs single target

[sharp pebble]

it is a big chunk of healing in m+

both everbloom and lifebloom itself

[spark river]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mA7d1YcV9aRJWjQC?fight=65&type=healing
@thorn plover say the things

[balmy spire]

ok maybe cuz im not playing with apex atm :x

[sudden rover]

in m+

[balmy spire]

thats why low numbers

[sudden rover]

no one cares about raiding lol

[balmy spire]

i do

and thats fine.

[spark river]

Literally everyone here plays the game for raid

[balmy spire]

lb healing matters when you play apex :x didnt know that haha

[grizzled seal]

This version of apex won't go live lol

[pale hare]

Does keeper of the grove see any play at higher keys where more HPS is needed or not at all

[spark river]

no

wildstalker heals more

[grizzled seal]

Keeper does less hps so

[pale hare]

ah so its just trash

sad

[spark river]

its not trash

[thorn plover]

It's a buff in raid and m+

[spark river]

wildstalker is just better

[sudden rover]

how? instead of 5 blooms we have 3

in m+ i'm talking

buff wise

[balmy spire]

even in m+ its a buff

its math

[thorn plover]

3 plus the big burst from rank 2

[hard bear]

More aoe healing, a bit less single target

[thorn plover]

It's more st too

[hard bear]

With less blooms on lb target and more splash?

[pale hare]

wouldnt we want more splash for higher keys since its rarely tank healing thats the issue?

[thorn plover]

3 x 6 x 22000 x 0.5
+
3 x 22000

[plain steeple]

Insta regrowths have the same gcd as normal cast regrowths.
The mana consumption is exactly the same.

[thorn plover]

For aoe
For st 3 x 22000 + 11000

[hard bear]

I dont quite speak math

[vivid owl]

When was it fixed? I had it happen yesterday evening 😅

[thorn plover]

This morning

[hard bear]

Are you saying the r2/r3 node heals the lb target too?

[thorn plover]

Of course in m+ it does

It hits 6 people

[spark river]

broken apex into an aura nerf

we will be there

[hard bear]

Ah I thought it would exclude the lb target since it doesn't include it now

[plain steeple]

Don’t forget photo.

[thorn plover]

Yeah it's huge

In raid on certain logs it's like a 20k hps increase

[vocal hinge]

im getting assigned convoke + tranq at 40s on alleria instead of the relatively fixed druid cds in p1 because my healing guy says "all the druids are overlapping cds with the disc and overhealing by 50%". idt overhealing is a valid reason to assign cds differently but maybe could i get a 2nd opinion on this

[thorn plover]

If you convoke on pull it will be back up

50% overheal pretty normal lol

[vocal hinge]

the cdr is only 15s right, so it wont be back at 40s

[vocal hinge]

thats what i said 😭

nvm ty i think im just going to ignore whatever he's saying about overhealing for now xdd

[grizzled seal]

Convoke is not a burst cd anymore

You just fire it for mana

[thorn plover]

Close enough lol

[vocal hinge]

xD

[grizzled seal]

What's happening at 40s

I killed the boss and don't know

[vocal hinge]

heal absorbs and arrow

[grizzled seal]

Why does that need a convoke and what will convoke do there

Am I stupid

[vocal hinge]

idk either 😭 thats why im asking here bc no one has assigned convoke at 40s

[signal solar]

How do you decide tree vs voke for crown?

[grizzled seal]

Vibes

[signal solar]

My trees feel underwhelming

And i rging absorbs which I think might not be the play and let the pally handle it

[vocal hinge]

playing convoke cos im bad at tree

are druids any good at heal absorbs on this fight xddd

[grizzled seal]

Don't think so

[signal solar]

Should I just spam rejuvenate in tree instead

[grizzled seal]

Druid is good on absorbs on paladins

[vocal hinge]

i have a mw rsham disc as well

[vocal hinge]

cos u can predict who it's on right

and hot them

[signal solar]

I did the self healing build for pallys

[grizzled seal]

Yes that plays a part

But also it's on more people

[lofty sigil]

apex or no apex for vanguard? i dont like having choices lol

trying to figure out what talents to run, no pres evoker

[grizzled seal]

I played apex

Idk how pres evoker plays into any decisions on this boss

[lofty sigil]

convoke vs tol according to my rl

[grizzled seal]

Yeah that's not a thing

[bright swift]

Pres doesn't touch the absorbs

[thorn whale]

People are really typing stuff today huh

Just play the game team

[lofty sigil]

covoke with apex it is then

[thorn whale]

@grizzled seal @bright swift send help

Green color has entered the setup

[grizzled seal]

I think your RL thinks people consider their comps for talent selection which they most definitely do not

[cunning parcel]

thoughts on these healing cds

we had people die to rot a bit esp during 3rd laser

[spark river]

Very interesting tranq position lol

[grizzled seal]

If you are dying there then move apo to itb

Also unsure wtf your zephyrs are even doing

[cunning parcel]

they'll dr the slam damage right

[grizzled seal]

Ok?

[cunning parcel]

my fault

[grizzled seal]

Do you die to the slams?

I'm not sure if zephyr works on beam damage

Never checked

[cyan minnow]

no

[grizzled seal]

Idk, doesn't look like a CD issue anyway

Might be press the buttons issue

[cunning parcel]

thats so true, I think I might move zephyr to overlap between last adds dying and moving to laser

[cyan minnow]

zephyr is best for adds dying imo

[cunning parcel]

yerr I swapped them all over to that transition

cause thats where most our rot deaths are

only people dying in stomp phase are just standing in bad

[hollow burrow]

Can someone explain the logic behind taking or not taking harmonious bloom? Thanks

[thorn plover]

In what content

[hollow pond]

depending on my vault tomorrow, assuming I take the mythic piece only will have 1 since i did my first 10, im a few mythic crests from getting the regent to craft the mythic level 2h from inscription. Assuming I dont get a mythic weapon, i should craft that right? or should I use the crests to upgrade that piece first

[spark river]

crafted weapon with hunt if you dont get myth weapon with haste/mastery

[hollow pond]

also I have a champion gaze would a hero gaze > mythic item regardless of slot, since its not going to be raid mythic?

[livid hearth]

I thought people said u dont click sunfire now. But i see people on top m+ runs with it in their tree as well as icyveins rotation guide says use it in huge aoe to dot up?

Is it correct rotation guide or outdated?

They even say dot up with thrash as well as sunfire before rake-ing them

[spark river]

You would sim it to see if the hero gaze is a bigger upgrade than a myth item

[hollow pond]

ok ty

[thorn plover]

That's talking about playing keeper, which you shouldn't be doing anyways. The wildstalker part is outdated
As for the logs taking Sunfire, the Chinese players love sunfire. Look at how little they actually cast it thoug

[main timber]

Use this for damage on IV, I'll try and remove that old page https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/restoration-druid-pve-healing-rotation-cooldowns-abilities?area=area_damage

[waxen ingot]

Any tips for mythic crown?

[hollow burrow]

M+

[spark river]

Makes the target with lifebloom more unkillable as you get 3 mastery stacks from lifebloom instead of 1

People take it instead of nb or nd

[livid hearth]

Ok ty. Its what i thougjt in dungeon. I saw that we play keeper in raid? Do we just spam wrath as dmg between healing in raid?

[spark river]

Only if you re out of mana and you play master shapeshifter

You can also do hotw rip for mana if you play ms

[livid hearth]

I havent checked logs for what people building yet but this icyveins talent page says keeper with master shapeshifter.

Then is dps rotation when no healing just spam wrath?

Nothing else?

[agile cedar]

Has anyone here tried Wildstalker in raid?

I'm finding that a lot of my healing is getting sniped by the rest of my healing comp and wondering whether Wildstalker would be a viable alternative to Keeper in our particular case due to having more damage and still having good burst healing with the apex talent and thriving growths

[frozen void]

I do not know if it's talked before or solved but i do have a problem with tracking my Incarnation: Tree of Life cooldown on cooldown manager. I don't know what breaks it, during trash it works just fine but as soon as raid encounter starts it stops tracking the cd, it just shows like it's available 24/7. if you know what is the solution please do share. It is bugging me 😄

[spark river]

Keeper is the go to hero talent, but there are numerous builds for raid. You would usually be ramping for the next damage event, so you wouldnt have much time to dps, but if you have the time, it would be hotw rip for mana and wrath mana also for mana.

If the fight is shorter you would play liveliness

As mana wouldnt be an issue

[spark river]

I did a bit of a troll build last night on dreamrift.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/mA7d1YcV9aRJWjQC?fight=65&type=healing

Wildstalker apex

[white knoll]

Quick question, when is our healing output the highest in raid, during the tranquility cast, or during the regrow spam thats follow ?
For exemple, if there is damage over time, should be aim to tranq during it, or should we pre tranq to spam during the dot ?

[livid hearth]

Ok, do we deal dmg other ways or still 100% focus on ramping and hotting up?

Im thinking that liveliness build since we dont plan on mythic raiding

[spark river]

Thats pretty much it regarding damage in raid. Our main focus is healing and we are a proactive class so we need to ramp for the incoming damage.

You can also check the most played builds by boss on warcraftlogs

But if you re new, I would stick to the recommended ones on wowhead or IV

[livid hearth]

So no need to dps at all in raid and just hot up for next incoming dmgs then? XD

[bright swift]

bro what

[livid hearth]

The healing rotation guide is rly good on iv, just dps rotation im a bit confused. Not used to healing

[spark river]

Im in a casual guild

[hollow burrow]

Is it over kill since lifebloom is stacking with apex?

[spark river]

Dont judge

I killed it with a pug after raid lmao

[bright swift]

also why would you play liveliness

[white sentinel]

why does it feel like m+ is more dead this xpansion

[bright swift]

over embrace

[spark river]

Why not

I was just messing around

I played no refo also

[lament river]

why?

[bright swift]

@cyan minnow didn't you say this was fixed

[agile cedar]

Thank you for this! I'll do some testing with your build and another I was planning

[bright swift]

WS honestly looks so good

[spark river]

Its a bad build

There are better options for ws

[bright swift]

it won't be

next week

[spark river]

No this build i used

[bright swift]

except the liveliness

[spark river]

Wildstalker is good

I like it very much

[agile cedar]

If nothing else it's a proof of concept that it can work

[lament river]

what happends next week?

[spark river]

new apex

[agile cedar]

We getting a new Apex?

[bright swift]

Yes

[spark river]

Rank 2 and 3 are changing in next patch

[agile cedar]

How did I miss this 😂 ok

[bright swift]

Rank 4 too

[agile cedar]

Need to go check it

I'm guessing we'll probably start taking it again

[spark river]

oh yeah rank 4 also

[agile cedar]

In raid I mean

[bright swift]

Right now on PTR it's absolutely busted

so yes

[lament river]

what binds it to WS?

[bright swift]

Healing increase from vigorous creepers

on yourself

[agile cedar]

Glad to hear

[frosty canyon]

% increase from new apex?

[bright swift]

buffs the entire apex

[spark river]

My justification of not taking embrace was actually not pressing wg a lot

[bright swift]

it'll always be better than liveliness

liveliness is so bad

[spark river]

Yeah but if im regrowthing

A lot

And not pressing wg

[bright swift]

you pressed wg 23 times..

[coral ocean]

does anyone know how can you pull eagles to the guardian sentry in academy as resto druid?

i saw a chinese log but couldent execute it

[hardy junco]

Would you put lifebloom on yourself or tank/melee in raid?

[spark river]

yeah but 3.5 cpm on wg is piss poor

[plain steeple]

It might be interesting if Everbloom would also proc by lifeblooms hot.

[spark river]

Like yeah liveliness being 2% is awful

So you re right

[bright swift]

it'll be a little more

but not much

[bright swift]

but doesn't on ptr

[hardy junco]

where can we read about it?

[plain steeple]

One iteration had it in the last days. And honestly i‘d like that. It would reward if you keep up LB properly and don’t drop it..

[bright swift]

yeah it's weird

[plain steeple]

But let’s see what they release.

[spark river]

You can check it out on ptr or search through discord there were screenshots of it

Or just wait for the patch

[plain steeple]

I‘d love to play a very strong apex build with prosperity and ToL with reforestation etc.
But the latest version wouldn’t be strong enough to enable such a spec.

[hardy junco]

rank 3 nerfed tho?

[bright swift]

yes

[spark river]

Overall a big buff

but yeah

[bright swift]

but rank 2 is insane now

[hardy junco]

i can imagine

[spark river]

Really interested to see which version we get

Because this one isnt surviving

[plain steeple]

Why is it not?

[bright swift]

any more nerfs and we're back to no apex

[spark river]

Its too busted?

[hardy junco]

with apex, our healing is all about lifebloom uptime right?

[plain steeple]

The first version was too busted.
This version here is around 45% of their first PTR version.

[vapid granite]

Hi, is the only potentional way to gain mana as a resto druid to skill master shapeshifter?

[plain steeple]

You reg 150k mana per minute.

[spark river]

Yes

[plain steeple]

Master shapeshifter is only a small bonus to what you get overall.

[spark river]

Your efflo healing is also connected to lifebloom uptime

Very important

[hardy junco]

yea, in raid, do you put lifebloom on melee/tank/yourself?

[plain steeple]

I‘d just like to know how good 1min convoke actually is.
No clue if it’s fairly measured or under-/overrated in WoWA.

[bright swift]

I think it's irreplacable

[plain steeple]

Why? Because the burst is so handy and boss effects rather bursty?

[spark river]

On this log I sent, 2 min convoke is around 7%

While 1 minute is around 10-12 % on logs usually

[bright swift]

that's weird

that it's 7%

[plain steeple]

Yeah but is that calculation reliable?

[spark river]

It should be higher

As I missed one usage

[bright swift]

it's for sure higher

since it doesn't account for abundance or NB

[plain steeple]

And mastery

[bright swift]

or for treants spawned

[spark river]

I d say closer to 9% probably

[bright swift]

or for implant value

[spark river]

But thats my feelycrafting

[bright swift]

that's why I think it's always good to take

[plain steeple]

I‘d like to pick photo without MS/Embrace

That’s just such a waste of a point.

[bright swift]

embrace is insane man what are you saying

[tough portal]

Embrace doesnt have any synergy with buffing up other talents tho

So its healing is pretty straight forward, other talents you'd compare it to aren't

[bright swift]

no but it still does 5% of my overall

[silk ice]

He has to.. Embrace the talent

[cyan minnow]

i thought it had been merged but it wasn’t. i just merged it (i can merge my own prs now )

[rustic copper]

How do we take it in the .5

[bright swift]

you won't idk

[rustic copper]

I have 11 required talent points + apex

[bright swift]

for Lura

[plain steeple]

How?
Do you spread rejuv/rg as much as possible without stacking them for mastery in any way?
My embrace is doing 3.5% max.

[bright swift]

idk what to tell you

that's on 170k HPS too

[spark river]

Is phosy really better than 2tv?

[bright swift]

With new apex? very probably

[thorn plover]

Vrocas, I'm a ND believer in m+ now

[plain steeple]

That’s very few overheal for 170k total hps though.

[bright swift]

finally

[plain steeple]

Could potentially be much more

[thorn plover]

It almost halved my rejuv count

[rustic copper]

Ohh is that why wg is so high on logs, it bundles embrace

[cyan minnow]

@bright swift ok fixed now check again

[thorn plover]

Lmao

[bright swift]

does since today

[spark river]

Nb also added to regrowth

[thorn plover]

Embrace used to be its own line wtf

[rustic copper]

[bright swift]

what no way

4% crit cannot be this much surely

[plain steeple]

260% value on RG hots

[tough portal]

Bad changes imo

[cyan minnow]

can you send me the log youre looking at?

[tough portal]

More annoying to read through logs smh

[bright swift]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/mA7d1YcV9aRJWjQC/65-Mythic+Chimaerus,+the+Undreamt+God+-+Kill+(6:30)/341-Solareana/standard/statistics

[lusty jolt]

Is there a way to optimize Rejuv + Germination visibility in the Raid Frames? In big fights I simply just cast Rejuv wherever without really looking at who has it already. Is there a way to make it more easily visible? What addons and profiles do you guys use?

[plain steeple]

Personally I use Grid2

A raidframe addon is absolutely required to heal properly as druid.

I couldn’t see anything in the standard UI.

[spark river]

I use default but I had to find a color scheme which suits me to see the hots better

[willow furnace]

Guys as far aa i kniw in raid we spend our soul of the forrest on reju. What abou m+ ? Do we pre reju into swiftmend regrowth combo ?

[spark river]

Also rejuv in keys

Unless big damage

Then regrowth

[hardy junco]

with new apex

our healing is gonna be busted in m+

[bright swift]

like it isn't already

[hardy junco]

even more

but surely they nerf other shit to balance it out

[bright swift]

getting nerfed because we are too strong in m+ is such a classic

FUUUUUUUUUUUUCk

[hardy junco]

applies to raid too if new apex is too strong

[spark river]

lmao

[bright swift]

it's much stronger for m+

[cyan minnow]

yeah it does seem a bit high
i think the issue is its not accounting for the variable crit chance on regrowth throughout the fight bc of abundance. not sure how easily i can fix that 🤔

[bright swift]

i think just remove it for now

[rustic copper]

Just need to check how much crit chance you had on every regrowth cast

[lusty jolt]

is there any official changelog on apex changes?

[pulsar kettle]

no

[bright swift]

theyre just winging it until release

[pastel berry]

Anyone have a decent set up for blizzards click frame to cast for resto? I recently switched to resto from guardian because keys (in my experience) are way toxic on tanks. I used to use healbot for the click to cast but if i can do so without it, I would love to know the set ups people are using. I haven't healed in 10+ years so I wanted to get back into it.

[thorn plover]

You think it's toxic towards tanks, wait til you pug heals 😈

[spark river]

Use clique or clicked to setup your bindings

Everyone uses what works for them

[pastel berry]

Oh I know lmao but I've been told to kms way less frequently than I did as a tank

I've timed multiple 10s as a healer, mostly been an ok experience with pugs so far

[thorn plover]

Lol I'm just playing. Welcome

[pastel berry]

I appreciate the suggestion! I will look into it after work and see if I can find a set up that works for me

[pastel berry]

I appreciate it! I used to love resto druid and honestly, feels more like home than guardian ever did, so I'm ok going back to my roots (heh)

[gentle nova]

You played tol

[bright swift]

yes and

[gentle nova]

You have 9 wg targets for 70% of the fight

Convoke doesnt

[bright swift]

what does that have to do with embrace

[gentle nova]

Oh nvm

[untold perch]

does this happen when you have a lot of casters?

[gentle nova]

I thought you were talking about wg healing

[bright swift]

dude convoke is so shit on Beloren

it's insane

it does not line up

with anything

[gentle nova]

You have to pop it a bit early and it does

[bright swift]

early on what

[gentle nova]

All color swaps

Im convoking 5 sec before all of em

[bright swift]

there's no way you beat tree in intermission

[gentle nova]

So?

I dont cd the i termission

[bright swift]

who does for you

[gentle nova]

You also dont have a mw

Thats why ur so high

They carry it

[bright swift]

yeah mw cds intermission

so I have to carry it

since we don't have it

[gentle nova]

Sure

[little basalt]

Wait, question because dumb and literally starting rdruid today. I can't find the notes, is resto getting literally changed in .5?

[spark river]

There are no notes yet

[bright swift]

the apex is

[spark river]

Our apex will change

[bright swift]

but it functionally works similar

it's just way stronge

[little basalt]

Just way stronger with the change? Or way stronger now?

[spark river]

With the change

[bright swift]

stronger after change

[little basalt]

Oh, that is crazy.

[bright swift]

it's an absolute bomb next week

[little basalt]

Oh okay. I was going to be sad because I'm already coming from a really sad spot with healing LOL

[bright swift]

[proven phoenix]

I did no healing on crown man

This game sucks

[grizzled seal]

sucks to suck

[proven phoenix]

I thought I was going crazy on that boss and I looked at the log after the kill

[bright swift]

sucks to suck

[proven phoenix]

150k hps

Fuck me then I guess

[bright swift]

@gentle nova we are struggling with the heal absorbs in the 2nd p1

we have no cds for it lol

[grizzled seal]

dont worry, phased. there were 4 druids worse than you

[proven phoenix]

I’m sure there will be a lot more worse than me as people kill the boss….

[bright swift]

beloren is really the first boss I would have been better on the bench for

rdruid is kinda ass on it

[proven phoenix]

Yeah I’m on the bench

Its chill

3 heal fight and all of our healers are raid buff so

[bright swift]

my problem is that this 3rd tree is NOT back when it's listed here

i don't get it

[grizzled seal]

you didnt press wg and sm

[bright swift]

i am

[grizzled seal]

[proven phoenix]

[bright swift]

is this not enough...

[copper viper]

Do we have a build anywhere without catweaving in m+? Is it just for circle of the heavens? Should I switch out of FLuid form?

[grizzled seal]

your swiftmend cpm is 0.1 lower than it should be

[bright swift]

[glass crane]

gotta be landing those 10% hp mends

[bright swift]

hmmmmm

[glass crane]

I would recommend soaking the tank frontal before each mend and then use on yourself

[proven phoenix]

Snipe swiftmend on soaks

@glass crane I heard something crazy happened with your guild on dragons again

[glass crane]

I disassociate on dragons pulls so I'm not even sure what that's referencing

[grizzled seal]

this is some Mattiu behavior I cannot endorse

[glass crane]

I have to be the middle of the stack and everyone stands on me and kills me

[proven phoenix]

Lmao

[little basalt]

I used to be a holy priest. I'm just tired of the way they keep changing things so... since WotLK this is my first big change

And I like how it looks when I set up resto cds during prog

[spare maple]

Why does some logs tree instead of convoke on paladins?

[thorn plover]

Because they talented into tree instead of convoke
Hope that helps

[bright swift]

@grizzled seal

it's not even close

i don't get it

[grizzled seal]

what are you even trying to do

[spark river]

Damn thats rough

[bright swift]

I have incarn set to 1:15

but it's not back

[spare maple]

Surely the answer i was looking for

[bright swift]

and I hold the previous one for at least 15 sec

[spark river]

Some people prefer tree, some people prefer convoke

Its really all there is to it

[grizzled seal]

if I go into your log, will I see that 15 sec hold

[thorn plover]

You said the same thing I did

More word

[spark river]

Yeah, but nicer

[thorn plover]

Why say lot word when few word do trick

[bright swift]

Well I can't see when it went off cd exactly since I was in a reforest proc

but after the reforest proc ended I held at least 10 sec

so it would be 1:20

but it's not

[grizzled seal]

0:22 into 1:53 in that pull

[grave coyote]

hey guys i have a question can someone tell me how to setup a reminder for lifebloom like that one?
I got ayije CDM and what i can do is i can show me the Lifebloom but i cant give it a glow or something when not there

[bright swift]

that's more than enough or

[grizzled seal]

in this log you had refo proc into tree use

hard to tell when it came off cd

[bright swift]

yea

[thorn plover]

LifebloomAlert might do what you're looking for

[bright swift]

it's probably fine

[urban kestrel]

Tree on paladins is good at healing while dodging and running from your execution sentence to the absorb ghost, convoke lines up well with senn's ticking damage, take your pick depending on comp or your team's struggle point.

[bright swift]

my reforest procs line up kinda good on this fight

just need to wrath on pull to make sure my first swiftmend actually counts

that's a really annoying bug

[thorn plover]

Wildgrowth the boss on pull

[urban kestrel]

Never be afraid to find a critter to growl at and abuse.

Are there critters in March?

[grizzled seal]

pre-hot moonkins to get in combat

[bright swift]

i can't actually wg an enemy target

[thorn plover]

Why for

[urban kestrel]

I know there's plenty of critters in voidspire already.

Degenerate swiftmend shit.

[bright swift]

I guess I can actually

mouseover the enemy unit frame

[thorn plover]

Ya that's what I've been doing

[grizzled seal]

bro what

and this man is a regular

[bright swift]

i have wg outside of frames macro'd to myself

[grizzled seal]

cant you just hover over your frame for that scenario

[thorn plover]

I just have mouseover>target>self as fallback in my click binds

[proven phoenix]

Vrocas….

You know what enemy wg is really good for, last boss magisters

No one is in range of each other but everyone is in range of boss

[bright swift]

oh shit

good tech

I was actually struggling with that

[proven phoenix]

It’s not good tech if you can’t even do that is it

[grizzled seal]

...................................

[thorn plover]

I literally explained this 2 hours ago to someone
Smh my head

[bright swift]

well I can if I hover over the target frame

[main timber]

[grizzled seal]

I feel like I used wg off enemy so often over the years

it's actually crazy that people dont default to that more often

[thorn plover]

Why cant you just hover over the boss itself

[bright swift]

don't think it works for clicked

[grizzled seal]

wanna see a funny screenshot from my crown kill?

[spark river]

sure

[thorn plover]

Really? Danders click casting > clicked?

[bright swift]

no i mean i have it turned off

[thorn plover]

Oh

Btw thanks for convincing me to try clicked

Game changer for me

[bright swift]

yeah it's so good

[cyan minnow]

@bright swift i got it working

[thorn plover]

Cat weaving does not feel clunky anymore

[bright swift]

ok not as bad as I expected

[grizzled seal]

so this is last phase start when you jump over for the first time

[cyan minnow]

yeah intensity makes it higher than you'd think

[thorn plover]

I didn't realize you could double bind things

[grizzled seal]

this is 15 seconds later

guess who has my lifebloom

[spark river]

lmao

[bright swift]

not the ww...

[grizzled seal]

my man is just chilling

living his best life

WITH MY EFFLO

[bright swift]

what is he doing

ask for a grip...

[grizzled seal]

grips are already assigned

[urban kestrel]

Waiting for chi torpedo and double jump probably

[bright swift]

this is my WG macro for 10 years

outside of frames

[grizzled seal]

this is crazy

you didnt even do @player, just full on ego typed the name

[thorn plover]

Not even @player wow

[bright swift]

yeah

[thorn plover]

My druid name changed 6 times in tww

Fucking snowflakes reporting me

[spark river]

what kind of war crimes are you commiting

[urban kestrel]

Are you not showing up to raid on cumharvester?

[thorn plover]

Mooseknuckle

Not even bad

5 variations of that, then I changed it to Dilligaf and apparently that's not allowed either

[urban kestrel]

(cumharvester the evoker did not even last long enough into df to see vault heroic week)

[thorn plover]

My evokers was Duckfragons and got forced name change too

[urban kestrel]

Still rolling with cocok no idea how.

[bright swift]

noway

[agile cedar]

Why? That was fine

[thorn plover]

Someone was offended and got enough people to report I guess. Happened in an lfr

[cyan minnow]

you can get force name changed with any name if enough people report

[agile cedar]

[wary belfry]

Sometimes I feel petty and report names ye

Especially if theyre in my group and they suck at the game

[agile cedar]

Fair didn't know it was that pedantic

[grizzled seal]

I know people who abused that for a free name change

Just have your entire guild report you

[urban kestrel]

Sometimes you can set something off and get a 2-3 day ban, but I don't think that happens on first offenses unless you're a pvper.

[agile cedar]

Wild

[cyan minnow]

yeah ppl did that a lot in classic

theyd pay people gold to report their name for a name change

bc in og classic there were no name change service yet lmao

[agile cedar]

Creative I guess xD

[wise galleon]

Is there no food that gives the same amount of mana as mage food?

[thorn plover]

Yeah I've done this before too

[glossy moth]

any resto mains here know how to setup Danders frames for healing? the buffs are just all over

[thorn plover]

Sanguithorn tea gives more

It's our best mana food

And no the buff from it doesn't overwrite your well-fed

[thorn plover]

Aura designer in the options

[wise galleon]

I thought mage cookies gave 100% over 20 sec, whilst this gives only 8% over 20 sec

maybe its tooltip memery

[thorn plover]

What's 100% over 20s? 5%

I know math is hard but come on

[glossy moth]

you can choose there which icons?

[thorn plover]

Yes. Colored squares, icons, bars, whatever you want

[glossy moth]

no i mean for specific buffs