#resto

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spark river
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But maybe thats just me idk

weary moss
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Gotta ride the vibe man

bold grail
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So why craft the 2h mace instead of the staff?

spark river
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Cheaper

whole horizon
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i ripped my RL for 3 straight seasons about assigning my convoke

spark river
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You can craft the staff if you want

whole horizon
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he stopped eventually. life is good.

bold grail
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Can the mace be used as guardian?

spark river
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no

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your weapon is intellect

whole horizon
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but again, if you werent trying so hard to press your Tranq button right when it was assigned, you may have realized nobody in your raid had taken damage yet

spark river
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crafted weapons dont shift stats

whole horizon
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sending it 3s before assignment but ~10s before the healing was even needed

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in moments like that you have to ignore your assignment

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you know you're going to press it either way, and +-5s is kind of expected for things like that

snow umbra
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If I understand it correctly, the benefit of Tranq is more the boost to the HoT duration, rather than the flat healing that the spell does?

spark river
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3.4 shred cpm on hc lura

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im the goat

snow umbra
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Ramp into, boost duration with Flourish and then Regrowth out of it

whole horizon
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yes and no. it does really good healing on its own.

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the flourish is part of what makes it so strong, but you cant ignore the direct healing portion. thats very wasteful.

gentle nova
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What does assigning convoke mean

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Its a 45 sec cd

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You assign it every 45-1min?

whole horizon
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you'd be surprised what kind of shit non druids do

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my RL tried to assign my convoke 47s into a fight one time

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i told him to eat shit

gentle nova
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My rl “assigns” it but its just 1 min apart lmao

snow umbra
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I get this

gentle nova
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Hes “assigning” it 1 min apart lmao

snow umbra
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I'm not upset about it

whole horizon
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i was just confirming there wasnt one

snow umbra
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In fact I like a visual timer

whole horizon
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i assign my convoke myself, i still like the timer too

snow umbra
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The concern I have is my ramps feel ineffective and I'm seeing ~40%+ overhealing

whole horizon
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did you post a log

gentle nova
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Thats cause theres no real ramp

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Druid doesnt do much healing for damage events, its just steady healing

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Thats why you feel “ineffective”

whole horizon
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is 5 healing paladins standard?

gentle nova
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Now yeah

whole horizon
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everybody 5 healed kyveza too

gentle nova
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Paladin was 6 heal tho

whole horizon
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i wonder if my guild can 4 heal it

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oh fr

gentle nova
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Worse than kyveza

whole horizon
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damn

grizzled seal
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If you have vantus then I'd 6 heal paladins

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Also if you have good classes for it I guess

gentle nova
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Okay thats hard to look at

whole horizon
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run all of those pulls through wowanalyzer

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i bet they show the same consistent issues on each one

snow umbra
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Do we -need- to maintain 12 abundance stacks all the time

gentle nova
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Oh i just looked at the log you died twice lmao

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No

snow umbra
gentle nova
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You will oom

grizzled seal
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Where are your tranqs planned?

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You can get 3 good tranqs off on paladins

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And I only see 1 on 4:30 pull

snow umbra
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1min, 4min, 7min

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Ish

whole horizon
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that might be your mental block, you need to RG way more and your lifebloom cpm is abysmal. if youre only regrowthing with high abundance thats part of the problem.

grizzled seal
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Ehh don't agree with those

gentle nova
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Lb cpm should be low with vi

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Uptime is what matters

whole horizon
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i should have said uptime

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its 66%

snow umbra
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I'm playing Prosp as I find it easier to retain abundance

gentle nova
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Prosp ooms you

whole horizon
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it also doesnt matter because those high abundance stacks arent doing anything for you

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you have to press rg way more to get value out of them at all

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you'd be better off spamming rg at 6 stacks than what youre currently doing

grizzled seal
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You didn't even have good rejuv cpm

whole horizon
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some of those pulls you had 7rg cpm

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it is not an overhealing/assignment/comp issue at all sis

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you need to pump those numbers up

balmy spire
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is there any fix for hottracker? or why every druids hot gets tracked now

trail escarp
whole horizon
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what are you talking about

balmy spire
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Hottracker is now tracking every reju on the raid

snow umbra
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Whats considered "good". 20? 30?

gentle nova
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Isnt that whats supposed to do?

balmy spire
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only your own

whole horizon
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im guessing they mean from all rdruids

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and we only play with 1 rdruid so we wouldnt notice

gentle nova
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Oh

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Lmao

grizzled seal
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@thorn plover

snow umbra
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I'm seeing logs where they have 22 cpm of Rejuv and 13 cpm Regrowth, but still parsing oranges

grizzled seal
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I'm confused how this can even be possible

whole horizon
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im happy when i hit 18

grizzled seal
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Depends on your pull length too btw

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If you end not far away from your tranq then your regrowth cpm will be higher

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7 min pull will have a high regrowth cpm if you used your tranq properly

snow umbra
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So the take aways I'm getting here are play VI, and hammer Regrowths, even with 5 abundance stacks?

snow umbra
# gentle nova Prosp ooms you

I always felt it was the opposite. I'm actively casting more Rejuvs with VI as I can't get as many out with PotA due to less Swiftmends

bitter ember
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you're extending 2 rejuvs and a lb constantly

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netting u more uptime and more globals to press other spells

graceful belfry
gentle nova
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For free

snow umbra
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Assuming I have a Rejuv and Germ on myself?

gentle nova
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You should always vi a rejuv and a germ and a lb

snow umbra
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Or on the LB target

bitter ember
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your target of lifebloom should always have a rejuv and a germ hot

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on them

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and should be your only sm target

balmy spire
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if anyone wants a fix for hottracker insert this

grizzled seal
prime ridge
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Some crazy haste on the neck from weekly chest lol

spark river
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some people die of thirst while others drown

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or something like that

willow furnace
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guys second item we craft chest or wrists/belt ? discord pins says chest, wowhead say wrists/belt thats why im asking

hasty blade
willow furnace
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asking cuz im sitting with 220 wrists and for the love of god i cant get any... and not sure if i should craft em or keep farming, got 269 chest from Q and im not raiding mythic

spark river
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Cpm a bit on the lower side considering you used reck pot

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But nothing too big

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3 other competent healers on a fight that isnt that heal demanding tbh

hasty blade
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I'm just like

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perma stuck at 200k max HPS

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I parsed better but the other druid overhealed a significantly more than I did

spark river
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One thing i see on wowanalyzer is that you extended your hots on your lb target only half the times

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Thats one thing i would fix

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always have germ, rejuv and lb when extending

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You also missed one tranq usage early on in the fight

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He overhealed because he didnt have anything to heal

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3 other healers are >70 parse on a hc fight

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People are not taking enough damage

primal cargo
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do we open weekly hc chest with resto spec\

narrow vortex
timid palm
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Hi, I was looking at guides and some focus on cat-weaving talents while others prioritize boomie. What's the best way to do DPS? I used to play cat-weaving in BFA and SL

gentle charm
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cat weaving is generally better, but boomie is good if you would otherwise not dps with cat

thorn plover
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Watched my vod from the single time I had another druid and it didn't do it so must be new
Will fix it ASAP

tulip flax
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This option keeps turning on , any addon to disable it ?

wide rose
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what made this tier have leech and the other not, is it just because it wasnt hero yet

gentle charm
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did you catalize an item with leech?

wide rose
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oh yea

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is that a problem or just free leech

gentle charm
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free leech

wide rose
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sick

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tempted to spend the 80 crests but i should wait for a 3/6 drop ..

bold grail
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So, im disc main, I have a resto druid alt to push keys. I am having a hard time getting my dps over 20k consisently because i feel like I need to heal too much. Not sure if its worth it to spend time blanketing the group in rejuvs

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Easier to weave in dmg with disc obviously

gentle charm
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there is a ton of damage in keys so even getting near 20k is good imo

thorn plover
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Ya about 20k gonna be pretty top end for druid lol

tidal lynx
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I think thats normal resto druid dps?

thorn plover
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Lucky if I hit 10

bold grail
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ok, whew, I stop when i can to cat dmg but man, its tough to find time

tidal lynx
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According to archon r druid is lowest dps average

sharp needle
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random but does anyone experience mouseover macros with a default secondary line (/cast mouseover lifebloom; lifebloom) just randomly not doing the standard cast when conditionally it should? it also fixes itself randomly and works when it wants, jw if there's a line command i can use to rightsize it or something

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random used 3 times nice

restive kettle
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Resto druid aren't good at padding meters but are ST is still useful in dps

thorn plover
whole horizon
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i think he's paraphrasing his macro

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i've noticed similar behavior with my mouseover buff macros

sharp needle
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im not ill just be like sitting in town with no mouseover and it wont defer to casting on me. but it will randomly fix itself. /cleartarget will sometimes fix it, but not always -- apparently the game doesn't always clear that condition

whole horizon
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sometimes they just randomly won't acquire a target

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usually immediately after entering a key when i try to motw

sharp needle
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ya mark is very annoying lol

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but the way i have it works most of the time, not always, just kinda wonky

thorn plover
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My motw macro is just @player and it works every time lol

whole horizon
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what if you encounter a random friend in the world and you want to buff them

thorn plover
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Open world? Unlikely

whole horizon
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you don't randomly buff people when you see them questing and killing mobs?

sharp needle
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open world is from the past life

thorn plover
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God no

whole horizon
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actual heathen

wide rose
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i had to break my hard casting habit after moving everything to MO macros finally yesterday

thorn plover
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When would be somewhere seeing people killing mobs

sharp needle
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plus now im in combat, self-grief

whole horizon
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did you just wake up on patch day and you were immediately level 90

wide rose
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MO for dispell is so nice

thorn plover
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I don't think I saw more than 5 people on patch day. Dead server

sharp needle
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i leveled in delve lol

thorn plover
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Probably alliance scum too

wide rose
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the little open world content i do is weekly prey so i actively don't want to see anyone

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stealing my traps grr

reef locust
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Im struggling with lifebloom management because I used to run a weakaura for it and rip weakauras, what are people using now?

thorn plover
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When I do my 3 NM prey on Tuesday I'm lucky if I see another person

wide rose
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i still dont understand how they managed to design open world content where you actively hate doing it around other random players

wide rose
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its so bad on thrall, theres times where i cant do mine because there's 20 people fighting for traps

thorn plover
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All your old lifebloom weakauras would still work likely

wide rose
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i hired purrformance to personally scream at me if my LB falls off (LBalert in his bio)

reef locust
grand herald
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Yeah it works just fine, but its capacity is reduced

thorn plover
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m33kauras on GitHub. Google it and download that. still works just a fork of the original project

grand herald
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Stuff like LB that isnt secret, works the same as before

reef locust
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Thats huge

whole horizon
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i thought i would keep up with prey but as soon as m+ dropped i stopped completely

thorn plover
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There's a wowhead article about it yesterday I think

whole horizon
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the transmog doesnt even look cool

sudden rover
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I downloaded that m33kauras thing but the addon was not showing ingame idk why

whole horizon
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prey rewards just seem bland/uninspired/zero cool factor

grand herald
sudden rover
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can m33kauras replace the new cooldown manager of blizzard? cause that shit is horribly bad

grand herald
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For stuff that is secret

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Its funky

sudden rover
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can you define secret pls

whole horizon
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basically no

thorn plover
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Lots of CDM addons

grand herald
reef locust
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I def have weakauras installed and enabled but the game says Incompatible and the /wa command does nothing

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Are you getting it from a source other than curseforge?

thorn plover
sudden rover
thorn plover
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I like ArcUI but the first setup is a pain

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People like aiyjie or however it's spelled

whole horizon
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betterCDM worked fine for me for awhile, i now use Ayije

grand herald
reef locust
grand herald
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Like i made a CD tracker for sm and wg on my mouse in WAs and it works fine

waxen ingot
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i use the voulks

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Mouse cursor

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weakaura

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and it still works

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its lovely

whole horizon
thorn plover
willow furnace
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guys is it fine to craft wrosts with embelish as its my lowest ilvl slot ?

thorn plover
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the pet thing never worked anyways, forgotten code

willow furnace
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wrists*

thorn plover
whole horizon
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i've got a better idea, process of elimination

thorn plover
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sotf regrowth

bright swift
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Prosperity...

thorn plover
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with prosp

whole horizon
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what talents do you not currently take that you think would benefit you?

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(there's like a single one)

thorn plover
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look at the million logs for vexamus out there lol

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shouldnt need to run anything special there

whole horizon
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you already have 70% of the talents in the tree so its not difficult to eliminate the other 30% by usefulness

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you can discard most of them immediately

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that leaves you with a bare handful of possibilities

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for?

thorn plover
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look at logs

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you're in the 0.1%, youre probably not gonna find a magic answer here

gentle nova
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Theres nothung to swap out tho just rotate cds

whole horizon
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i also don't think you can talent around it

gentle nova
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Spec nb

whole horizon
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there's nothing we don't already have that would help you out unless you're playing VI

gentle nova
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Play RH and rotate those i guess

whole horizon
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then you could test Prosp for the extra SM

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i like it but its more of a convenience/pug talent

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you can always find a global to refresh it, 25% on efflo is nice but its not saving lives, and if you think the point is better somewhere else its an easy drop

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your passive throughput suffers but thats not an issue we have at high keys when we're actively healing a lot

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could try NB like mattiu said

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are you playing with a static/communicating defensives?

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im assuming you're asking about the mana bombs/arcane fissure overlaps

bright swift
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I might swap my 2nd TV to NB

frosty canyon
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I saw you guys were messing around in the ptr with the new apex stuff a couple days ago, is there a quick TL:DR on the feeling?

waxen ingot
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jk

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there were convos before about it

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search it up

tidal lynx
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is there any addon that tracks abilities via cursor like old WAs?

whole horizon
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if you've been playing with VI you're also probably using sotf to spread rejuvs

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one of the main draws of prosp for me is you have the extra SM to send more sotf regrowths

plucky flare
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What is the opinion of this trinket? I don’t think I’m maintaining uptime for if, should I use something else?

waxen ingot
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mouse cursor

tidal lynx
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Yeah but wa is gone

reef locust
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Theres a fork called m33kauras on github

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Im having some struggles with it though

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I cant find a way to invert triggers and it displays icons when it shouldnt

tidal lynx
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Can't we get banned?

waxen ingot
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no

reef locust
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I dont see why we could. Blizz didnt ask nicely that addons stop doing certain stuff, they changed the API to make the blacklisted stuff inaccessible

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m33kauras couldnt access banned functions if it wanted to

tidal lynx
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They use an anti cheat software called warden

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It could be polling for that type of info

quiet wyvern
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so long as what you put in goes into the addon folder

reef locust
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The info we're using isnt against the rules

quiet wyvern
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you're safe

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because addons live in a sandbox

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anything you do within that sandbox is inherently okay

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tos doesn't like you editing other files tho

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some

reef locust
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I am struggling tomake a functional lifebloom wa if anybody has tips

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A lot of the trigger features seem to just not work

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And their discord link is outdated

tidal lynx
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Any place to get the weakaura copy pasta then?

vivid peak
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i gave up with m33 and just use lbalert addon

grand herald
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Im not at pc so i cant export it

tidal lynx
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Ibalert addon?

reef locust
whole horizon
vivid peak
grand herald
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First one would be a simple trigger off the lifebloom id using least remaining duration

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Second one would just be trigger off LB id using aura missing

vivid peak
reef locust
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Set to unit: smart group

grand herald
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You only want to see it when its not in pandemic?

reef locust
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But I get this icon when lifebloom isnt active on anyone

reef locust
vivid peak
grand herald
reef locust
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Ive actually got it working with smart group in raids, the issue Im having is that it doesnt hide when it should

scenic magnet
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Does anyone have that one key that never rolls so its like -3 key levels to anything else 😭

grand herald
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I just pug other peoples keys

reef locust
scenic magnet
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Unrelated, that bleed on Seat at 18s is a literal crime against healers everywhere

whole horizon
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yeah that shit is egregious

scenic magnet
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Why cant I be a dwarf ffs

whole horizon
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whoever thought private auras were okay in dungeons needs to be taken out back and shot repeatedly

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a bleed nonetheless

tidal lynx
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Seems american

whole horizon
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guillotined, then

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is that french enough for you?

scenic magnet
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Seat at 17 feels pretty rough on 2nd boss, but above that it just feels like if you get chain picked you just run out of answers and die

reef locust
grand herald
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Nice

tidal lynx
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French probably pardon them now

reef locust
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It shows current buff status only while its active, lights up for pandemic, and shows a red alt icon if its not on anyone but only in combat

whole horizon
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well, i doubt any country would allow the kind of punishment that person deserves

scenic magnet
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Lets make it so you can't track a bunch of debuffs at the same time we make it so you cant track peoples personals

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Surely this won't disproportionately impact healers

grand herald
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Classic blizzard

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Fumbling a good thing

tidal lynx
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But you'll still pay for the expansion early access

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just like you always do

whole horizon
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are you trying to come off as condescending or is it just a natural talent

dry belfry
half star
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I’m not going to lie, threatening violence even if you’re not serious is frankly gross and completely unnecessary. Genuinely do better.

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That’s a human being you realize that right

plucky flare
reef locust
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m33kauras, the midnight fork of weakauras

wide rose
plucky flare
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Ty! And this has the mouse cursor setup? I tried another mouse cursor addon, but its been very difficult to set up

proven phoenix
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does telling someone u will roast them over an open flame count as violence

reef locust
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One time a guy threatened to kill me on facebook so I scanned his profile for details and called his mom to show her the messages

tidal lynx
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Wow I just glanced over at my monitor and thats the first thing I read

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lol

reef locust
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Please behave yourself when you're on the internet

wide rose
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osint tools are insane

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never think anonymity will save you from consequences

desert glen
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Do you guys do log reviews here?

thorn plover
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yes but you should read this first then come back
https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/

While having someone look over your log is a great way to improve, learning a few key metrics to look out for can enable you to review your own log - even between pulls. I'd recommend picking one of the below that you're not doing well and focus entirely on improving it for a few pulls. Once you're satisfied with it, add a second bullet point. T...

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unless you enjoy getting roasted lol

bold grail
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Is there a list of m+ soothe targets somewhere?

thorn plover
bold grail
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thx

grand herald
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Also joined a discord they had and called them out

bronze gulch
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Going into mythic void tonight, I see a lot of people not use the apex on wclogs, is this the new recommended?

thorn plover
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most arent running it, its very close either way

bronze gulch
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I'm guessing LB doesn't change much. still use it on ourselves w/o apex?

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Will test it out in a bit

thorn plover
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nothing changes at all between the builds

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as far as play style

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yourself is fine, but there are often better places to put it

bronze gulch
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tyvm

thorn plover
spark river
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You have to reboot on belo ren sometimes

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Fps went from 20 to 100

lament river
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Is there any good platter profile out for us?

thorn plover
lament river
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Where can i find it?

thorn plover
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wago

lament river
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the name jundies ?

thorn plover
lament river
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Ill try it out thanks

thorn plover
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idk if youre looking for something specific, but this is what ive used for the last 2 expansions

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i think its the most popular profile on there

cyan abyss
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Are our APEX talents changing in 12.0.5? Every streamer I'm seeing talking about the patch doesn't show the druid changes we saw back in March.

spark river
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Rank 2 and 3 are changing

cyan abyss
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Goood. I was getting nervous cause I couldn't find any recent notes on it. And doesn't show up in the class changes I was seeing.

lament river
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I just need a clean name plat where i can see my dots and when to remove enrages etc

thorn plover
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the notes are outdated

cyan abyss
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Thanks bb

pastel dragon
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is there a place i can learn about commonly used skips in M+ dungeons?

thorn plover
cyan abyss
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Thanks! How's it feeling in raid now? Much better?

thorn plover
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no way to test it

cyan abyss
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Oh rip

thorn plover
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just math

pastel dragon
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base don first glance it seems like less ST burst healing at rank 3

thorn plover
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it might be a bit, but not much

pastel dragon
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and the rank two changes seems to mean itll be more important to refresh during endemic

thorn plover
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because of the way rank 2 works

pastel dragon
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well not that it isnt alwasy important

thorn plover
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it makes phosy insane

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our tree gets a bit fucked up now tho

pastel dragon
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so photosynthesis AND rank 3 bloom will also count for the apex talent you think?

spark river
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Wildtsalker apex build we will be there

thorn plover
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it does we tested it

pastel dragon
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oh sick

thorn plover
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with the wildstalker build each swiftmend will be worth 198k healing based on mattius numbers

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198k worth of rank 2 apex

pastel dragon
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oh yummy

thorn plover
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plus the 3 blooms

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so like 250k

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lots of good reading starting at like 5pm cst yesterday

pulsar kettle
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demonic

cold niche
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Hey quick question with the wildstalker build why dont we take reforestation? Or should I just go Keeper of the Grove? Thanks!

thorn plover
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m+ or raid?

cold niche
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M+

bright swift
thorn plover
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wildstalker 100%

thorn plover
bright swift
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still crazy though

thorn plover
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refo is not good in m+

cold niche
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Cool even if i'm not planning on cat weaving?

plain steeple
thorn plover
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it just does more healing in that size group than keeper does

gaunt willow
# thorn plover

What’s the average bloom - about 7000 so 3.5k across 6 allies doesn’t sound a lot?

cold niche
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Cool is there a reason not to play reforestation as a talent?

thorn plover
cold niche
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just having tree that often is nice

thorn plover
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7k * .5 * 3 * 6

gaunt willow
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Yes but doesn’t sound a lot of healing

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I suppose you’ve got all the procs and prosperity

thorn plover
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phosy procs and pandemics

gaunt willow
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Oh wait it procs 3 times with Blooming Frenzy so each of those does a heal to 6

thorn plover
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yes

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on the log i analyzed yesterday it would have done 9m healing done

gaunt willow
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Ok decent

thorn plover
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putting it firmly as 3rd on healing done in that log

gaunt willow
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Seems oddly tuned though won’t it buff us in M+ even more and only be good in raids

thorn plover
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yes

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not enough data to analyze a WS log, but mattiu was consistently getting 25k blooms

gaunt willow
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Nice

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Love both your addons btw

thorn plover
#

❤️

gaunt willow
#

Using them 2 weeks now completely transformed healing for me

rustic copper
#

Ws in raid ICANT

#

Is it forced to be self bloom with WS

thorn plover
#

i think so ya

gaunt willow
#

I was missing out on the Voulk cursor WA

rustic copper
#

Why

thorn plover
#

ill see if i can find mattius post about it

grizzled seal
#

Self bloom for 25% stronger everbloom cleaves

thorn plover
rustic copper
#

There is a talent that lb blooms more on yourself or what

grizzled seal
#

16, 4 and 4

thorn plover
#

forest walk

rustic copper
#

Holy moly

grizzled seal
#

Forestwalk, that talent in class tree and WS talent

thorn plover
#

bond with nature

plain steeple
#

I hoped that I could now play prosperity in raid.
But after the nerfs on PTR it doesn’t seem to be worth anymore

grizzled seal
#

The number of targets nerf makes no sense though

#

It's still a net buff for m+

plain steeple
#

Yeah a big one

grizzled seal
#

What are we doing here

#

Buffing druid in m+

thorn plover
#

they have no idea how to balance this class rn

grizzled seal
#

I have a tip

#

Don't buff a spec that is the strongest in one type of content by mostly it in that type of content?

#

Thoughts?

plain steeple
#

Agreed

gaunt willow
#

25% splash healing but applies to 10/15 players or something so it doesn’t change M+ but helps raid aoe healing

grizzled seal
#

The worst part of this dumb shit

#

We will eat a raid nerf because of everbloom changes

#

Timeless classic

thorn plover
#

yep

tidal lynx
#

Best lifebloom addon?

thorn plover
tidal lynx
#

it just keeps yelling at me in that windows 95 voice

#

I wish it sounded nicer

thorn plover
#

You can change the sounds

#

/LBA

tidal lynx
#

Any other settings you recommend?

graceful surge
wise magnet
#

Anyone who got danderframe how do i can set up to able see dispel Cosmic shell in 1st boss mythic voidspire?

thorn whale
#

So no this is great

graceful surge
#

ok, its my first rDruid season 😄 and some Twitch Boys say u want 30-31% but for me so much haste feels giga big in keys

sudden rover
#

heart of wind that pos trinket never drops for me

graceful surge
#

i did 37 runs for the Heart of the Wind trinket

sudden rover
#

oh damn

thorn whale
graceful surge
#

kk, thank you 😄

bright swift
spark river
#

Back to the wildstalker jail boys

spring fractal
#

Does the 10% healing increase from tree effect tranq?

proven phoenix
#

yeah

#

incarn also pauses tranq

bright swift
#

other way around

robust crest
proven phoenix
#

oh lmfao yeah

#

other way around

spark river
#

Rank 1 resto btw

green basalt
#

What are y'all thinking for next weeks craft? I have had some bad luck so thinking a ring? Or is that troll with the two farmable M+ ones and maybe boots/cloak would be better? Pretty well states in every other slot so wondering what y'all think

gentle nova
#

Im crafting neck

#

And then ring

sudden rover
#

im going neck too, last champion gear I have on me

grizzled seal
gentle nova
#

Does kotg buff rg more after convoke

bright swift
#

there's literally a hero neck with haste / mastery from pvp

#

@sudden rover you too

thorn plover
#

I'm crafting cloak according to QE. Maybe a ring

sudden rover
#

I think I sold it

bright swift
#

? XD

rustic copper
#

link yours

#

no shot the 4p user is higher

gentle nova
bright swift
#

i'm probably not crafting

grizzled seal
#

45%

rustic copper
#

unless you're running a haste trinket that procs mainstat

gentle nova
#

Need more haste

grizzled seal
#

Not using alleria neck and Lura ring? Big noob

bright swift
#

Alleria neck is in my vault on wednesday actually

#

then I can craft

#

free 6/6 myth neck

rustic copper
bright swift
#

no

#

alleria trinket

#

so balance

rustic copper
#

24 items including tier as guardian 28 as resto

#

idkkkkk

thorn plover
green basalt
#

Oh I see low haste concern

#

Got it

bright swift
#

that's such a bad argument

#

mastery is insane

grizzled seal
#

Counter argument: haste

rustic copper
#

Counter argument: haste

green basalt
#

I really like the 31% haste 40% mastery and some verse for keys

#

feels pretty good

sudden rover
# thorn plover Why tf

I'm stupid as fuck that's why. I was pvp geared at the time and not realized I could use it for pve too

green basalt
#

I do watch him a lot is that bad?

green basalt
#

He seems good

sudden rover
#

or neck w/e

thorn plover
rustic copper
#

another regrowth + 20% of its heal on 15 targets + my next 15 regrowths heal this target for 20%

#

yeah I want haste

green basalt
#

I mean not trying to hide anything lol, weird response. I just saw him on YT randomly and started watching his keys. Lil rough around the edges from a personality standpoint but still doing nice keys

grizzled seal
#

Highly unlikely a neck would be called a ring

sudden rover
#

nah but i remember i had to choose between neck or ring right

thorn plover
#

Whatever works for you, no comment lol

green basalt
#

Are folks preferring more cranked haste?

#

I'm always down to try other stuff

#

What you running for keys?

sudden rover
#

like u ask him one tiny thing and he goes on about it for 20 minutes

#

but top guy otherwise

green basalt
#

QE live was also advising me to use more mastery too so it seemed to track haha

thorn plover
#

If you're only doing keys it's probably fine

gentle nova
green basalt
main timber
#

It's definitely good to go high mastery in M+

#

Just ignore any weirdly low haste goals

gentle nova
green basalt
#

What would you say is a nice minimum with no procs/flask?

gentle nova
#

Hero track is crankedv

#

?

main timber
#

There are no minimums or anything. WoW just doesn't really work like that

rustic copper
grizzled seal
#

I want a minimum of 90% haste

green basalt
gentle nova
#

So craft it?

#

The only good neck is alleria very rare mythic track neck

#

😹

green basalt
#

Alright lol, idk why everything is so scrutinized in here. Just trying to play some games you know. Good luck on your goals friends ❤️

grizzled seal
#

Bro

#

You posted in a public chat

#

People replied

#

It's not that deep

gentle nova
grizzled seal
#

Some people operate like it's their first time on the internet

gentle nova
#

I still dont see the value in panedic regrowth

gentle nova
#

You lose one rg target

gentle nova
#

Nice

spark river
#

lmao

bright swift
#

even on heroic

#

it's 2 sockets

grizzled seal
#

Yeah heroic Lura neck is insane

gentle nova
#

You wearing a hero vs a mythic piece?

#

Idk

sudden rover
#

rip I chose ring instead of neck.

bright swift
#

look at the difference

grizzled seal
#

Why would you craft a mythic piece over heroic Lura neck

gentle nova
#

I dont have an jeroic lura neck

#

I do have 2 sparks and 80 crests

thorn plover
grizzled seal
#

Yeah but you could

bright swift
rustic copper
sudden rover
#

idk i'm just plain stupid sometimes

grizzled seal
#

Spending crests on a craft instead of upgraded is a classic mistake

rustic copper
#

bro how

gentle nova
#

Idk explain

rustic copper
#

40% more crit, msatery stack?

#

you don't lose a rg target

bright swift
#

Wildstalker could be really good for Lura P3

rustic copper
#

you are losing 1 right now and gaining 1 later

gentle nova
#

You are pandemicing at 3 seconds then?

#

Oh i see it now

grizzled seal
#

Pandemic is 3.6

#

On regrowth with 2 TV

gentle nova
#

I think kotg is stronger for the tranq window

rustic copper
#

idk I just try to hit the lowest one

gentle nova
#

Too many treants

#

And root network is 2 not 5

#

But idk

bright swift
#

2 what

gentle nova
#

2%

tidal lynx
#

is rdruid the hardest or prevoker?

bright swift
#

druid

spark river
#

Evoker got simplified a lot

rustic copper
cyan minnow
#

the bug in strategic infusion module is fixed now btw

grizzled seal
#

Nice

#

Thanks

gentle nova
#

And already has 9% rg on hero tree

#

5 treants are 25% healing mod

#

5 blooms is 10

#

You will get to 6-8 blooms every convoke

#
  • mastery stacks on people and the 20% capstone
#

Math it out

rustic copper
gentle nova
#

Oh

#

Misstype i mean convoke

rustic copper
#

you are not a burst healer man

#

stop trying to be one

plain steeple
#

Pre apex ptr nerf we would have been a 20s CD healer.

#

I wished we could play prosperity comfy now, but apex is nerfed too much. I‘ll likely stay with VI.

grizzled seal
#

What the fuck are you cding every 20

plain steeple
#

Two swiftmends.

grizzled seal
#

Please

mighty wigeon
#

That wouldnt be good

grizzled seal
#

Two everbloom bursts for fuck all on 8 players

#

Insane burst

gentle nova
#

10k blooms on everyone = cd?

#

It looks good on meters

#

Just as bounty does

#

But bounty heals for 10k

spark narwhal
#

Two Swift is bad ?..

mighty wigeon
#

Its not, but i wouldnt call it a "burst"

plain steeple
#

Prenerf it was 10% hp on all 20 Players per SM.

rustic copper
#

garf apex maxing

grizzled seal
#

🙄

mighty wigeon
#

But the range is limited

rustic copper
#

can we get real man

spark narwhal
#

I like apex proc but 49/1 makes me feel like I'm not playing with the right tools..

mighty wigeon
#

You wouldnt hit 20 players eberytime

rustic copper
#

cast spells that do real healing

mighty wigeon
#

Regrowth 🫶

rustic copper
gentle nova
#

Enlighten me

mighty wigeon
rustic copper
#

it is regrowth man

gentle nova
#

A sotf ns rg does good healing

plain steeple
#

Regrowth is the reason why I am of the opinion that VI and kotg will stay on top.

rustic copper
#

what does it have to do with kotg though

gentle nova
plain steeple
#

Because RG is strong.

gentle nova
#

Xd

spark narwhal
#

Do I want to cast SM on the tank or on any player ?..

rustic copper
#

both trees buff rg garf

gentle nova
#

Its as if you guys dont play druid

plain steeple
gentle nova
#

Do you really feel you are relevant in any damage event

mighty wigeon
#

Yes with tranq

rustic copper
#

no

grizzled seal
#

I do because I believe in myself

rustic copper
#

I did ns convoke with a solid preramp on a beloren color change

#

into a ns sotf rg right after tranq

#

max burst possible

#

and my rogue cheated

gentle nova
#

My rl was like ok so we move tranq for the overlap and im like ok gl tranq heals for a total of 1 million

spark narwhal
#

Rogue take 33% more damage then any other class, hidden passiv I swear

rustic copper
#

real

#

always hated playing with rogues in m+

spark narwhal
#

Some are really impressiv in terms of AoE damage, but they mostly die bc.. too much wind

gentle nova
#

When a disc uses evang you can really feel the healing in the frames

rustic copper
#

yeah

#

you don't need 4 healers rotating cooldowns though

grizzled seal
#

Can you?

gentle nova
#

I can

#

Same with yulon

grizzled seal
#

Idk I can't

gentle nova
#

If i could convoke and tranq the intermission i would ascend

#

The egg whatever

rustic copper
#

it's too wide

#

you're doing a respectable amount of healing for like 35s

grizzled seal
#

It can be burst with tranq

#

If you do regrowth ramp into tranq into NS convoke

#

Not like evangelism does all the healing in 2 seconds

rustic copper
#

what is the order then

grizzled seal
#

Idk

rustic copper
#

is it preramp including rg into swiftmend ns convoke tranq rg sm rg?

grizzled seal
#

Your NB immediately loses value as rejuvs start falling off, right?

proven phoenix
#

I will take a spatial

grizzled seal
#

I think we just need infinite haste

gentle nova
#

I have a spatial

rustic copper
#

defensive and eat the wrong color

gentle nova
#

It kills you at the end

#

Tried that

rustic copper
#

how

proven phoenix
#

it just does

#

u die after intermission

gentle nova
#

Yep

rustic copper
#

oh lol

gentle nova
#

Maybe it increases damage taken or smth

#

Didnt check

eternal bough
#

anyone has good Dender frame profile vertical ?

cyan minnow
#

it gives you a minute long debuff on heroic

rustic copper
#

I don't see anything in the journal for it

rustic copper
#

(i lived it)

hazy flume
#

yummmm

gentle nova
#

I died

#

It was a wipe anyway so didnt matter

rustic copper
#

I didn't see anything in journal

#

you got the log?

#

did you get hit for like 1m?

#

or just rot?

gentle nova
#

Maybe it was just the high dtps

stable iron
#

How're we feeling about that there windrunner feather, gamers

rustic copper
#

the dot fucks for sure

stable iron
#

Got a hero one but I can't decide if it's better than champ Litany

gentle nova
#

Yes it does

#

Both are shit

#

Gg

stable iron
#

They're both top 5 according to qelive though? Or top 6 at least

gentle nova
#

I have the log gotta look through em

#

So top 5 means shit no?

#

Am i missing something

stable iron
#

?

rustic copper
tidal lynx
#

What transmog is that

stable iron
#

Judgement I think

gentle nova
#

Thats symbita

rustic copper
#

rate my mog

tidal lynx
#

That looks dope

gentle nova
#

Looks like zimbita mog

#

He doesnt have a mog

#

😹

rustic copper
tidal lynx
#

The reason it looks good is its natural. You were careful to make sure you looked realistic

rustic copper
#

delete tmog man

tidal lynx
#

wow

gentle nova
#

I love 2 min trinkets

tidal lynx
#

Wait why tauren

bright swift
#

highmountain tauren bis for raid

cyan minnow
#

why

bright swift
#

bull rush

fervent mica
#

^

tidal lynx
#

huh

gentle nova
#

Implying i can move in raid

gentle nova
#

Moving 1 frame fucks my momentum

tidal lynx
#

So you stand still?

rustic copper
#

1% haste buff

#

holy moly

gentle nova
#

Yeah

rustic copper
#

ne bis

tidal lynx
#

@gentle nova What if you're in an aoe

gentle nova
#

I move 1 step to the side

#

Betweem the gcd

#

Thats how u play this class

reef stratus
#

This may be a dumb question, but is there any way to analyze a key that did not finish. My tank died on second pull of seat and it's the 2nd time this happens at the same spot, but I don't know how to get information since incompletes does not seem to upload to warcraft logs

tidal lynx
#

Did he have iron bark

#

is he a brewmaster

reef stratus
#

Brewmaster, no ironbark on 2nd pull at that time

tidal lynx
#

what key level

reef stratus
#

13

slender gust
#

This is first season in a while where I feel like you can tell people “trust your HoTs” and not be trolling. Honestly feels good to have rejuvenate and WG exist as more than just a mastery stack for Regrowth.

gentle nova
#

Idk what season you playing

tidal lynx
#

are you playing mists of pandaria

gentle nova
#

Regrowth is even worse this season in terms of how much healing it does

thorn plover
reef stratus
slender gust
#

I haven’t done any super high keys yet so that could be the difference, but compared to previous seasons, it feels like my HoTs are actually doing something for a change instead of just looking pretty

gentle nova
#

They dont do shit

thorn plover
reef stratus
#

usually live logging

#

but I dont delete them so sometimes I upload after when I forget

thorn plover
#

maybe live logs dont, but after if you pick the "choose which fights" you can pick wipes

#

i thought live did tho too

#

ya my live logs definitely upload incompletes

tidal lynx
#

My hots are strong in leveling dungeons

reef stratus
#

Ill check what's up, is that warcraftlogs or archon ?

thorn plover
#

warcraft logs. arent they the same thing?

reef stratus
#

I thought maybe the tool had differences in how it treated data
vs

thorn plover
#

looks mostly the same

reef stratus
#

I'll do some more test, knowing it should means I fucked up something and I can fix it on my end

thorn plover
#

idk i refuse to download the archon app til they make me ig

reef stratus
#

yeah, I did not want it, but since the warcraft recorder guys now works for them, i just want to bite the bullet now since I don't have hopes the tool will live much longer

thorn plover
#

yeah kinda a L on his part

tired flame
#

why did they get rid of the str / agi / int leg enhancement in midnight? We only have str / agi and a seperate int option. As someone who plays both feral and resto, this sucks. And both specs want tier piece legs so I can't even have two different items.

bright swift
#

Get 2 tier legs?

merry mulch
#

Hey yall, about once a key I cast convoke and it just immediately inturrupts itself. I have a macro with natures's swiftness.

Anyone know what is going on here

tired flame
fervent mica
#

you don't want to combine them in keys... but add [nochanneling]

merry mulch
#

to nature's swiftness cast?

brazen laurel
#

I got hero track spire of the furious construct from skyreach. I was just thinking about making my 2h craft a 289. Should I still do that or just craft armor instead?

tired flame
#

Yeah it's a lot better in m+ to save nature's swiftness for the battle rez. You can always hard cast swiftness if it is on cd

merry mulch
#

ok, ty.

brazen laurel
#

Is the 289 2h craft bis then unless I do raid?

tired flame
#

True BIS is a 1h item and a crafted off hand because you get one extra ilvl upgrade. But that is end of season mythic vaults

tired flame
#

And by then you'll have more sparks than you need

fervent mica
brazen laurel
fervent mica
tired flame
#

I guess that makes sense. TWW brain

opal hare
#

Does it get to a point where we don’t have time to cat weave during trash pulls?
Tried a 14 and didn’t really have time to be in cat form very much due to having to spam regrowths and dispels between swiftmending and wild growthing

thorn plover
#

as you get more comfortable with the dungeons youll see where you can dps

#

honestly our aoe dps sucks, but single target is pretty good. you should have a decent amount of time on bosses

livid hearth
#

we tried using questionably epic live for the first time but after we import the gear, the website keep saying in red, make sure to equip a valid item in your armor or something and doesnt work

#

he has equipped leather intellect as restodruid and int ring and trinket and neck so he has valid druid int gear in every slot

#

are we doing something wrong?

thorn plover
#

do you have cloth equipped

#

i know you said leather, but double check

urban bone
#

Is he trying to do top gear but has no alternate items selected? I think it says some error like that as well

thorn plover
#

shouldnt get an error doing that, just tells you "this is your best set of gear"

main timber
#

If you post the SimC we can tell you

#

Make sure they are max level obv

naive chasm
livid hearth
#

i think he logged off, i guess ill ask agian tomorrow maybe

spark river
#

Is there a haste mastery neck that might drop from a delve?

thorn plover
#

yes

#

i had it at one point lemme check

livid hearth
#

how should i think about spending my crests? For example adventurer crests and veteran crests? Should i wait until end of week or something to wait until i get better drop or should i just upgrade my gear asap?

placid flax
thorn plover
spark river
#

I have the pvp one but it has too much mastery

#

Im at 38% mastery

thorn plover
#

delve one same

spark river
#

Save me

thorn plover
#

delve one is 12 less lol

spark river
#

Paladins hero ring is ruining me

#

Need to farm nexus point or smth

pastel dragon
#

i should know this but before a tank pulls, if im ramping on the part but not the tank will i get threat? or only start getting threat when one of my heal targets attacks

thorn plover
pastel dragon
#

ok thankyou

thorn whale
thorn plover
#

definitely not

#

prehot AA and have the tank body pull youll get threat for sure

thorn whale
#

It 1000% was how that worked last tier

thorn plover
#

i also dont think so, if you prehot on arakara and have the tank run to first mini boss i used to get threat all the time casting nothing

#

i always go stealth after i prehot for exactly that reason

solid hornet
#

alright dumb question, i'm following the cooldown schedule from one of the top lorggs profiles, and their convokes and tranqs are coming up before mine are available. I'm already talented into cenarius guidance and inner peace...any idea whats happening?

thorn whale
#

Nah you’ve casted heals while running then

velvet cloak
#

Yeah I'm pretty sure any healing will give threat to mobs in combat

thorn whale
#

No

thorn whale
#

You used to prehot before the skip in floodgate

solid hornet
vivid peak
#

Do symb bloom procs count as after the mob has been pulled

thorn whale
#

And it would not give you aggro after tank melded

pastel dragon
#

but i can prehot then shadowmeld and id be ok?

thorn plover
#

as long as the tank presses literally anything youll be fine

velvet cloak
#

Can we get a fact check on this threat stuff? Because it sounds fairly sus that applying hots out of combat means they don't generate rage in combat

pastel dragon
thorn whale
#

So unless that has changed

thorn plover
#

the fuck is this now, they changed it again?

bright swift
#

3 to 4?

thorn plover
#

rank 2 changed too

#

healing AND final bloom

bright swift
#

oh it's all lb again

#

bro

#

WHAT

#

@grizzled seal

#

Time for another calculation?

pastel dragon
#

oh hell yah

thorn plover
#

ah ptr just went down

#

i was gonna try some shit

vernal meteor
#

Can I find a prio list for Symbiotic Relationship targets or is it just whatever?

thorn plover
#

someone squishy

bright swift
#

whoever you lifebloom

#

@old pollen going back in your log bud

thorn plover
#

lmao

#

the go to log

spark river
#

bro is famous lmao

wicked forum
proven phoenix
#

good mog zimbita

wicked forum
#

i miss be a tauren tho

bright swift
#

On the Fartyparty log. This version of Apex would have done 15.4M healing (with only 85% LB uptime)

#

Assuming 10% overhealing

thorn plover
bright swift
#

that's even stronger than before or

urban bone
#

Will I even have to cast anything besides lb in keys??

thorn plover
#

swiftmend

bright swift
#

yea

thorn plover
#

and rejuv to consume it

#

lol

urban bone
#

Mama Mia

thorn plover
#

afk waiting for ptr

austere bloom
#

what talents are you running on the ptr for new LB

thorn plover
#

there nothing to test it on

#

so not sure

#

seems like we either drop refo or go to 2m convoke

bright swift
#

our idea for the new patch in raid is something like this

#

Which is insane

#

2 min convoke

#

no refo

austere bloom
#

what about 1 pt in thriving veg to put into 1min convoke

bright swift
#

Some people will kill you for that opinion

#

But I agree

thorn plover
#

im ok with no refo tbh

bright swift
#

Yes

austere bloom
#

no refo also gives grove insp back

torn roost
bright swift
old pollen
#

cooking the log again

frigid glen
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Hello, i have a question. Sometimes in m+ i feel like my regrowth tops 3 ppl at the same time with huge heal, it may be my swiftmend too. im not sure but i dont how to ramp that up it doesnt always happen. the situation is like 5 ppl have rejus and i swiftmend then i use regrowth on 1 person and suddenly like 3 ppl getting topped full. what am i missing? i am aware regrowth buffs have affect each other and seiftmend booost the regrowth but it doesnt always work the same. İs it because of the lifebloom and apex talents? maybe it is the swiftmend cause it bloom to everyone?

frigid glen
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doesnt always work the same

bright swift
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Makes regrowth hit 3 people

thorn plover
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makes your next rejuv or regrowth hit 3 people *

frigid glen
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is there any additional thing here?

thorn plover
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nope thats it

empty heath
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Is there an appropriate place for log review on this server?

frigid glen
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it doesnt always the same. i do 17 keys im not that noob

thorn plover
austere bloom
frigid glen
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nah lifebloom on tank

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i just couldnt figure out how instantly i top 3 ppl from %30 to %80s

thorn plover
# empty heath Is there an appropriate place for log review on this server?

if you post here someone will review, but highly reccomend to read this first and come back after if you have questions https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/

While having someone look over your log is a great way to improve, learning a few key metrics to look out for can enable you to review your own log - even between pulls. I'd recommend picking one of the below that you're not doing well and focus entirely on improving it for a few pulls. Once you're satisfied with it, add a second bullet point. T...

empty heath
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thanks! I'll do that first.

thorn plover
frigid glen
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oh that makes sense actually

potent juniper
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Yea use regrowth when you already have hots rolling and people are taking damage it helps when you wanna save convoke

frigid glen
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probably in those scenerios i have reju+germ on those ppl when that sof regrowth hit these targets

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maybe also wg too

thorn plover
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and symb blooms

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it hits pretty hard in that case

frigid glen
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how much mastery reduced in each hot?

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is there a certain number

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each additional hot i mean

thorn plover
frigid glen
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thanks a lot @thorn plover

empty heath
frigid glen
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what is ur overall dps at the end

thorn plover
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bright swift
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Yeah it's ridiculous

humble cargo
# bright swift

I think the last point in the apex talent after its getting nerfed by 1 target wont be worth taking in raid, as it also does a lot of overhealing and not much of an impressive numbers if we can judge correctly via wowanalyzer, alongside the fact that we press SM on cd it will also tend to overheal a lot. That 1 point is much better in my humble opinion in improved Convoke talent , also 1 point might be taken from TV in to Embrace. Tests must be done but looks nice 🙂

thorn plover
tough portal
bright swift
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I tried owlweaving with call today in a 10