resto

[median marsh]

Luckily don’t have one of them

[gentle nova]

Fucking blizzard

[median marsh]

If we had MW as well instead of our HPal

It’s gg

[gentle nova]

Make the raid do damage

Or healers weaker idk

As opposed to the godcomp

You have to do nothing

[median marsh]

40% overhealing on mythic prog feels bad

Swear they said it would be closer to 20%

[gentle nova]

I had 60.

[median marsh]

On paladins I’ve been sitting on 50%

300k raw HPS and only 150k actual healing

Lura seems to be a banger healing fight at least

Hope they keep damage taken the same

[waxen ingot]

you always have this much

as druid tho

no?

[median marsh]

Yeah Druid always higher

But other healers having close to that also

[flint void]

hey, ran it back, went better

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DThJNPAxFdRCwLyf?fight=2&type=healing

[median marsh]

Came into midnight with them saying raids aren’t gonna be topped instantly

And within 5 weeks we back to raids being topped instantly

[gentle nova]

I only care because its not me topping it

[median marsh]

Facts

[gentle nova]

Buff nb

I think its also a damage intake problem

[spark river]

bring it back to pre nerf values

[gentle nova]

Most bosses do nothing

Even bird does nothing for 70% of the fight

[polar steppe]

why you go 5 heal then ?

[gentle nova]

Cause blizz made it possible

Wdym

Once upon a time bosses had healing and dps checks

[quiet wyvern]

because when 5 healing you have more cds

and your main goal is to make sure your raid does die through the burst moments

5 healers gives you better coverage

[median marsh]

Nexus King and Demon Hunters great healing fights imo

Constant damage and big healing windows

More like that

[polar steppe]

i mean if all heal log green/grey and it's a down, maybe one of them could go dps

[gentle nova]

Demon hunters was fake healing

If you ever looked at frames as a dps perspective the raid was never in danger

Ever

[gentle nova]

You dont do that because its safer to just overheal if the game allows it

[distant birch]

We need more rot frfr

[marsh prism]

like literally what is there to even heal

im so fucking mad at this shit

[gentle nova]

Thats like the nightmare comp

[marsh prism]

WE HAVE A SECOND PRES ALSO

[gentle nova]

😹

[cyan robin]

Catalyst boots (Rootslippers of the Luminous Bloom) are simming better than any boots I can get from M+. Why don't I see these mentioned on any gearing guides?

[marsh prism]

because bis lists dont work the same way

[gentle nova]

Cata boots are cool

High haste

[gentle nova]

Why does crown intermission literally does 0 damage

Like what is that design philosophy

Why are you allowed to clear the dot

[crisp mauve]

anyone know if omnicd is working? i've been using minicc as a workaround lately

[zealous scarab]

Saaame, same healer comp here

[gentle nova]

Its just 30 seconds of running

[marsh prism]

[cyan robin]

Don't work the same way as what? Simming?

[marsh prism]

i literally had to buy a switch 2 and pokopia to stop myself from dooming so hard

[flint void]

Simming > a list someone was forced to make at the start of the tier that hasn't been updated in half a month

[marsh prism]

yes doesnt work the same as using qelive top gear

[gentle nova]

And the fact that you need to recruit 6 healers for one fight then you have to sit 3 of those for the next

[flint void]

qeLive isn't simming technically

[gentle nova]

No one says anything about that?

[flint void]

it's just gear optimisation, healers don't really have a APL

[marsh prism]

i literally sat for some shit week 1

this tier has been crazy

[gentle nova]

They should just tune accordingly idk

6 heal should never be a thing

[marsh prism]

real

[gentle nova]

Neither 3

[marsh prism]

it's so casual unfriendly

[gentle nova]

And 6 and 3 in the same tier is a crime

3 of your healers just dont get to play

[cyan robin]

I didn't know the catalyst pieces outside of tier set had set stats until today tbh, thought they were entirely cosmetic lol

[zealous scarab]

3 heal fights are the worst

[marsh prism]

there's not really crazy ones this tier but sometimes they are giga

[worn marsh]

anyone else taht suddenly cant see peoples rio score on Danders frames?

[tough portal]

Why does it take 20h to get an llm bot to reply to my ticket man

[grizzled seal]

That's from 6 heal actually

[plain steeple]

You won’t lose much if you don’t plan it.
Most of our healing is kinda flat and existing the entire time. A perfect usage of cooldowns is only the cherry on the cake for us right now.

and whenever you are unsure what to do, just cast a Regrowth. It’s basically free of mana, will give a hot and will give you the opportunity to hand out additional heals with Natures Bounty later on.

[bright swift]

our paladins rekill was rough

[grizzled seal]

6 heal?

[bright swift]

no vantus makes it a lot harder

yea

[grizzled seal]

DPS wise?

[bright swift]

yeah if anyone is dead it's just over

[radiant narwhal]

u guys 6 heal pala?

[bright swift]

that's pretty common

[naive chasm]

How much dedicated time is required for heroic and mythic raiding each week? I've always just done M+ since I don't want to commit to being present at specific times every week

[bright swift]

that entirely depends on raid hours doesn't it

[thorn plover]

we do 6 hours a week (+ prep on your own time) and get CE every tier

[bright swift]

you have guilds that raid 5 days and you have guilds that raid 2 days

1 day guilds usually don't get to the end of mythic

but they clear heroic and some early mythic bosses for sure

[marsh prism]

holy fuck i just got loot

[naive chasm]

It would be fun to do I think but just not willing to block out days each week for it sadly

[thorn plover]

grats! i got loot last night too. myth NK trinket

[bright swift]

they gave me boe pants yesterday

[thorn plover]

youll be able to pug first 4 mythic

[naive chasm]

Up to paladins?

[thorn plover]

no

[spark river]

i got set gloves yesterday also lol

[thorn plover]

first 3 + chim

[naive chasm]

Ok

[marsh prism]

i just got myth gloves to cata

1 shot dragons rekill not bad

[bright swift]

pants better

[thorn plover]

i got the boe boots last week before they were boe, and myth nk trinket this week. living the high life

[bright swift]

I'm 279 ilvl

[thorn plover]

278 here

[hard bear]

Anyone know why convoke, and sometimes tranq, takes me mashing the button 3-5 times before it starts channeling? It causes me to fall behind and people die

[bright swift]

idk what i'm gonna craft next week

probably nothing

cuz I don't have crests

[hard bear]

I do play with 250~ ping but this hasnt been an issue before

[marsh prism]

i still have dog trinkets and am in the loot council channel listening to the leech stare discussion

[naive chasm]

Do we have an estimate of how long until 12.1?

[bright swift]

somewhere in summer

[river holly]

On the council. All loot is yours

[river holly]

We don't have .05

[thorn plover]

or 07

[bright swift]

.05 is in 2 weeks

[thorn plover]

we get new raid boss in 07

[shrewd jay]

Holy !!
So soon :)))

[naive chasm]

Yeah I just mean, based on normal length of season 1 when can we expect 12.1

On the road map it just says summer

[bright swift]

somewhere in summer

[thorn plover]

do you know when summer is?

thats when you can expect it

[median marsh]

Just don’t take any Myth M+ loot from nexus point in vault for the next 2 weeks and just spend bonus rolls there

[marsh prism]

its coming into winter

[bright swift]

👎

[naive chasm]

Does each season 1 length vary a lot in each expansion?

[thorn plover]

no

[bright swift]

I'm bonus rolling Alleria

[river holly]

If you're from Wales like me. We can pinpoint summer to a day tbf

Rest of the world it's an actual season

[median marsh]

True, ribbon

We’ve had 0 ribbons drop

Normal and Heroic

[bright swift]

Mythic

Don't bonus roll heroic Alleria

[thorn plover]

we got 4 ribbons in 4 weeks

2 on our second kill

[bright swift]

Our 2 mythic Chimaerus splits gave an Alnseer each

big for the team

[median marsh]

This trinket is dropping like crazy

1 per kill and 1 kill we had 2 drop

Depends how much bonus rolls we get per week I guess

Don’t think they’ve said

[naive chasm]

Seems like we can expect the season to last about 20-25 weeks based on previous expansions

[grizzled seal]

You get 2 per week I assume

[flint void]

it was datamined to be 2/week

[grizzled seal]

Bosses use up 2 and dungeons 1

[thorn plover]

i didnt know i have to do this voidforge quest to unlock that

so im potentially behind

lol

[median marsh]

At least you will still be able to fill at least 2 myth raid vault slots for not much time commitment when progging Mythic Lura / Belo

[flint void]

it's a warboound questchain

[grizzled seal]

You are not

[thorn plover]

its catch up?

[flint void]

and it has catchup

[grizzled seal]

There is a catch up and it's at 4 now

[thorn plover]

nice i just go kill lfr bosses then?

or m+

[grizzled seal]

Or dungeons

[thorn plover]

nice

[naive chasm]

So that would probably put 12.1 around mid to late august

[thorn plover]

i just heard about the quest last night

so i have 0 progress

[grizzled seal]

Literally fill 2 vaults and you are there

[bright swift]

it drops from m+ too yeah

it's very easy

[thorn plover]

yes

[hard bear]

Anyone know why convoke, and sometimes tranq, takes me mashing the button 3-5 times before it starts channeling? It causes me to fall behind and people die T.T

[thorn plover]

check what your spell queue window is at

/dump GetCVar("SpellQueueWindow")

[river holly]

Id this the bonus roll thing?

[thorn plover]

yes

[hard bear]

Ive adjusted it many times trying to see if anything felt better and I havent noticed any specific number fixing it

[river holly]

Ah ok I wondered why I was doing it

[shrewd jay]

Is it possible to remove or reduce the queue window ?
I believe it was possible to do it in the past ?

[river holly]

Are you targeting to do it? Might be that it's getting lost in not having a target?

[thorn plover]

yeah you can change it

[median marsh]

You wanna keep the window ideally, 300-400

[plain steeple]

Is it confirmed that fast?

[median marsh]

400 is best for most people

[hard bear]

/console SpellQueueWindow 400

[plain steeple]

Others said 0.5 may come in a month minimum.

[bright swift]

no but that's when the bonus roll quest completes

[shrewd jay]

I had the same issue with convoque but I never fussed it could be that.

[shrewd jay]

That, I’ll try that !

[plain steeple]

What do you mean with that?
I know bonus rolls will come, but what quest will be complete in 2 weeks?

[bright swift]

the one in Voidstorm

from Decimus

the weekly

[plain steeple]

Ah that’s for the rolls. Nice, thanks.

Do we already know how the bonus roll system works?
Is it a small chance to get an extra item? Or will it always give a random boss item?

[thorn plover]

you roll a specific boss

then that item is removed from the loot table

[marsh prism]

we 1 shot mythic and have wiped to heroic

[bright swift]

(and you get it)

[thorn plover]

permanently

[plain steeple]

Which itemlvl does it give? If I use it in heroic, it will get hero gear? How about M+ also hero gear?

[thorn plover]

same as boss drop

whatever boss drops you get that ilvl i believe

[plain steeple]

So basically if I need a specific boss drop and it can drop 5 different items for me, I will need a maximum of 5 rolls (5 weeks?) until I have that item?

[thorn plover]

2/week

[plain steeple]

Ah nice.

[thorn plover]

not a terrible system

[grizzled seal]

Bosses take 2 rolls each

Dungeons take 1

[thorn plover]

ohhh

[bright swift]

oh

[grizzled seal]

So you (presumably) can coin either one boss or two dungeons

[median marsh]

Dungeons fastest way to get full Myth gear

[bright swift]

coining dungeons is crazy though

[grizzled seal]

Because dungeon loot pools are much larger

[plain steeple]

But what ilvl does I get out of dungeons?

[bright swift]

8 items on a loot table

[median marsh]

2 guaranteed pieces of myth

[grizzled seal]

That's only good for catching up

[thorn plover]

oh ya it says it drops at great vault level

[plain steeple]

Is it always mythic loot then? No matter the difficulty I play on?

[grizzled seal]

We are capped on crests

[median marsh]

That’s why nexus point is best

BiS of piece chest, BiS ring, boots and gloves you can cata

But also true

[grizzled seal]

You get the difficulty you play on

[median marsh]

Held back by myth crests

[plain steeple]

So in dungeons I can only get hero items at max? While in raid for 2 coins I get mythic loot.

[grizzled seal]

They said myth items

[median marsh]

+10 bonus roll is myth

[plain steeple]

Ok thanks.

[bright swift]

Veteran crests lol

[grizzled seal]

I'm capped on vet crests

Just saying

[thorn plover]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/bonus-rolls-are-returning-in-patch-12-0-5-with-knockout-system-380757

[bright swift]

my alt is not

[grizzled seal]

Heroic raid gives like 180 hero crests

[thorn plover]

im getting voidlight marl from m+

its awesome

such a good system

[plain steeple]

Thank you all for your informations

[gentle nova]

Personally ill be bonus rolling mythic lura in 2 weeks

[thorn plover]

lol

[gentle nova]

Gonna have so much fun reclearing with 4 healers, 18% raid buff, bonus rolls and 289 ilvl

[bright swift]

don't play 4 healers on reclear?

[grizzled seal]

Yeah...

[median marsh]

Will be 294 ilvl I think

[gentle nova]

Just sit 3 of your 6 recruited healers

[tough portal]

Yeah but you can get a bunch from the regular tour of world events for an alt starting off

[median marsh]

With the turbo boost also

[grizzled seal]

Why would you recruit 6 healers

That was always stupid

[gentle nova]

I dont ask questions

[bright swift]

We have 3 healers that want to quit after the tier

[marsh prism]

you? :(

[grizzled seal]

Can't blame them

[bright swift]

no not me lol

Yeah can't blame them at all

[gentle nova]

Why?

Game bad?

[bright swift]

Private auras are so shit

to play with

and 1 is a holy paladin

[grizzled seal]

Healing obelisks on alleria is so shit

[bright swift]

yea

[marble brook]

is the logs build without our new talents correct? it shows no1 is using them

with convokke

[marsh prism]

bro i have 7% leech wth

[gentle nova]

Namaste

[marsh prism]

uhh without apex in raid? yes

[marble brook]

without everbloom??

oh thank you i just copied it and was like wtf haha

[marsh prism]

it is a valid build

apex can also be valid

[gentle nova]

Can i be valid

[marble brook]

i like convoke more but it seemed like the apex build is tree of life

[thorn plover]

read past the pictures my guy

it explains tree vs convoke / apex vs non apex

most have switched to convoke

[marble brook]

do you have where i can read im sorry but i dont know where the material is

[gentle nova]

Wowhead

[tough portal]

Ofc bb you are valid and seen

[gentle nova]

[tough portal]

🐽

[marble brook]

gotcha ma man thank you so much ❤️

[gentle nova]

New katseye song in 6 hours

@tough portal

[tough portal]

Enjoy it bro

[plain steeple]

Amazing. Now out lifebloom on yourself and waste all the leech.

Hopefully you have a Bear that is stacking big mastery for you.

[grizzled seal]

Some bosses are just not conductive for tank lifebloom

[plain steeple]

Yeah I know.

[deft oar]

Lifebloom the tank on paladins and heal about 2 and a half people with efflo 🔥

[simple hill]

What’s a good abundance number to have in raid?

Like a sweet spot

[spark river]

12

but thats ideal

[plain steeple]

8

[spark river]

6-12 is good

[plain steeple]

If you use sotf for rejuvs, you will have 6-8 all the time regardless.

With convoke tranq and a few rejuvs while running, you will get to 10-12 stacks very often regardless.

So you‘ll always be in a spot where a single Regrowth cast is more valuable than a rejuv cast.

[simple hill]

Ok so target 6-8 then gradually it will reach to 12

[plain steeple]

Unless big dmg is like 10s away.

You will automatically reach >6 yeah.

[simple hill]

Then start using regrowth right?

As they will cost less and crit etc

[plain steeple]

That’s the most efficient play and most of the time also the most hps.

[simple hill]

Excellent thank u mate

[plain steeple]

You‘re welcome.

[tough portal]

This doesnt buff your healing

[plain steeple]

If you play with VI, make sure to hit the player with Lifebloom and he should also have 2 rejuvs on him.

[plain steeple]

No? I thought it would, just like the other tank bonus heal effects.
Was that changed in the past?

[gentle nova]

In the past 4 expansions ago

[tough portal]

It's been the same way since I remember

Bear mastery is a separate entry, their own spell

[plain steeple]

Alright, didn’t know that. Thank you

Has leech any worth for us even?
Or shall I switch my enchants to speed? (Avoidance is also pretty meh right now, right?)

[simple hill]

@plain steeple this is what I’m running with

But convoke instead of tree

[solar hollow]

regarding gemming, is haste/mastery or mastery/haste better?

[bright swift]

haste/mastery

[grave flame]

It really depends on what stats you need, just sim your character and find out, doesnt take too long

[austere cairn]

Harmonious Blooming:
Lifebloom counts for 3 stacks of Mastery: Harmony

Since lifebloom can go to 3 stacks, which stack counts for 3?

Which means a full lifebloom is 9mastery?

[tough portal]

No, Lifebloom stacks arent more mastery, just more LB healing

HB is 3 stacks of mastery, separate from LB's stacks

[austere cairn]

Usualy I take off that point from harmonious and put it in Nature's bounty: Regrowth heals all other allies with Regrowth for 20% of it's healing, but I'm a bit undecisive on which one is better

For m+ dungeons in specific

[tough portal]

Both are good talents but nothing super major, their use cases is pretty intuitive yeah?

I prefer HB cuz I find the situations Nature's Bounty is good are already well covered

Also br spotted

[flint void]

anyone else having troubles with the cooldown manager not playing pandemic sounds/visuals?

[tough portal]

Yep, it dont work for pandemic

[flint void]

fml

[tough portal]

You can make a weakaura for it since Lifebloom is unsecreted

Or use purrformance's addon

[flint void]

weakauras back?

[scenic pilot]

Are people liking audible notifications on lifebloom expiration? Or does it become spammy?

[marsh prism]

expiration is too late

[tough portal]

There are community forks that just maintained the code to conform to the new API, you cant do all that weakauras could, just out of combat stuff and unsecreted combat stuff

[gaunt willow]

Use the Purrformance addons

[flint void]

blizz should just fix the cooldown manager on pandemic

smh blizz

like it's a actual option in their system, that shit should work

[marsh prism]

ok i actually got kind of fed tonight

[flint void]

i got kind of fed yesterday

[verbal apex]

has anyone figured out how to not have Call of the Elder Druid debuff show up as a debuff in your unit frames :/ ?

[flint void]

damn, that is kidna fed

[marsh prism]

mein gott

[tough portal]

Untalent it

[verbal apex]

xD

[flint void]

my plans for today before raid is to find a trinket from Windrunner spire, find a chestplate from npx and a ring from mt

[verbal apex]

I need to boost some friends through low keys and wanna run it 😹

[flint void]

eu/na?

[tough portal]

I dont think it shows on my grid2

But idr

[verbal apex]

shows as a debuff when its "on cooldown" (dander frames)

[tough portal]

Thats danders isnt it

[verbal apex]

but addons cant filter debuffs anymore can they ?

[flint void]

isn't danders pretty darn customisable

[tough portal]

Idk how their direct API settings work for debuffs but it'd be via messing with that

[austere cairn]

For debuffs I just use the addon: targeted spells

[tough portal]

Blizzard delivers debuff data with spell ids and names encrypted but there are stuff like categories that addons can filter through I think

[polar lichen]

with any filtering enabled I don't see bleeds from algeth'ar

[verbal apex]

thanks that helps, gives me something to dig into 😄

[harsh quail]

In the worst case you can go into the addon folder of danders and add it to the blacklist I think?

[sinful hound]

Do we have any strong opinions on which piece our second embellishment should be? It seems like a pretty even split on murlok.io between like belt/bracers/chest/boots etc. I was thinking about just waiting until I got a few more myth pieces from vault to decide which low ilvl piece I should fill. Am I missing out on much by waiting to craft the arcanoweave piece?

[clever cipher]

nom

[flint void]

generally speaking, you want your embelishments to be the lowest vlaue items statwise, as each takes a 4ilvl hit compared to maxed out myth track.

on the other hand, some slots absofruitly suck in terms of substat optimisation

belt is probably one of the better options?

edit: you got saladbar belt with vers/mast, chimaerius got a crit/haste belt, and m+ has a haste/vers belt from mc, crit/mastery from windrunner spire & crit/haste from pit

[sinful hound]

Yeah this was my dilemma lol. It seems like the m+ pool this season is pretty decent for us though. Like most our non-set pieces have an option for haste mastery or haste versatility so its hard to decide which slot to craft

[flint void]

meanwhile back has a haste/mastery from dragons

[tough portal]

2nd craft really should be big stat budget slot

Not small

You dont have 289s on most slots

You'll be able to craft infinite more items later once you're full 289

[clever cipher]

@tough portal

[flint void]

second craft should be a big stat budget slot, but at the end of the tier the embelished items should be low-statted stuff

[tough portal]

[flint void]

when the tier is over, chances are i'm rocking belt+wrists

technically the 2 absolutely lowest statted slots are wrists/cape right? it's why a load of "bis" setups have them be there

[woven vessel]

I was going to craft the chest just cause its a big buff/I only do mythic+ and getting that buffed up seems good

but im struggling to find a crafter who can actually do it 😄

[flint void]

myth tier is not hard to get

[sinful hound]

Plus our set chest is heavy crit so we either want m+ or craft in the chest I think

[woven vessel]

without doing myth raid im only really getting myth tier from the weekly box is the thing

[sinful hound]

Same

[woven vessel]

I figure just craft the biggest items and replace with the box

basically rocking full hero gear +whatever myth the rng box gives me 😄 I did get kinda lucky got a myth weapon the first week

also had terrible luck with chest drops. Its my last non hero item aint had a single chest piece drop

[tough portal]

Dont want chest tier

[flint void]

yes

[woven vessel]

head hands legs shoulders right?

that seems the one most suggest

[sinful hound]

Yeah. Chest has the most crit of all the pieces which we don’t want.

[errant haven]

to the guys who want to push/are pushing high M+ keys, do you rock a haste/vers ring or neck for survability ? i feel like theres some hard healchecks so losing a whole piece of mastery def hurts and i don't know if its really needed

[woven vessel]

one of the guides I was following was saying try and grab 31% haste and 40% mastery for a safety pug environment

im not on that exact but close and it seems pretty comfy for doing keys

[marsh prism]

uhh

what guide sorry

no guide should be talking like that

[brazen stream]

hello

[spark river]

Its vickman

He loves those numbers because they work for him

[brazen stream]

Just wondering about Light of the comsic Crescendo, how good it is for M+ healling?

[woven vessel]

bad advise is it? 😄

what are you aiming for is 40 to high, I thought it seemed on the high end

[tough portal]

Just pointless advice / not a useful way to approach 2ndary stats

[silk ice]

e-Vick’t those thoughts from your head

[tough portal]

Chasing a 2ndary breakpoint can make you ignore other parts of gearing that are also important

[woven vessel]

I mean to be fair most were saying ilevel=the most important in like 99%

[spark river]

Play around with stats and see what works for you

Dont just blindly aim for a number

[silk ice]

Well that’s feelcrafting

[thorn plover]

best way to play the game

[spark river]

Its in the name

[silk ice]

You should use this one, it’s Mr. Bigglesworth

[thorn plover]

naxx hardmode engaged

[dry belfry]

[silk ice]

[thorn plover]

i used to join pugs to kill it on purpose to see how may times i could get kicked

[silk ice]

[fast agate]

Hello, we’re currently having a discussion about what makes a good healer. We have a discipline priest, two restoration shamans, and me as a restoration druid. The blood death knight thinks it’s a waste to give him Ironbark. He usually drops lower at certain points, which is of course part of the mechanic. I’d appreciate your opinions

[spark river]

[spark river]

Does he die?

[fast agate]

At Crown hc yes and some trys myt first boss he also procs

[thorn plover]

sounds like he needs a CD then

[spark river]

He should ask for an external when hes out of defensives

[woven vessel]

a waste in what context? Is he saying he never wants it or he wants it at a different point?

[thorn plover]

we have to external our tanks more often than i thought we would

tanks are squishy

[thorn plover]

hes a blood dk, he thinks healers shouldnt exist

[lone tusk]

how big of a upgrade is our tier set?

[fast agate]

The discussion started because of loot. I suggested distributing it based on performance. He said that would make me a bad healer because I give Ironbark to the death knight.

[hushed sand]

I'm not sure which scares me more in M+ between a Pally and a BDK.

I can't keep half the pallys alive I see. A really good pally, on the other hand, isn't too bad .

[thorn plover]

3-4%

[thorn plover]

healers get left over scraps, gear the dps and tanks first

cant give them nothing at all, but definitely dont want to feed them gear first

[grizzled seal]

That's a stupid way to give gear

[fast agate]

Yeah thats fine. The basic discussion was, where you could see a goog Player. I suggest smart heal, dispells on point etc. And then he drops the point with bark

[thorn plover]

why does he feel he shouldnt get ironbark

[real junco]

Sounds like you just need to pat them on the head and tell them why giving iron bark to a tank is normal

[half star]

The entire conversation is a ridiculous one so any comment within it will probably also be ridiculous

[grizzled seal]

The most optimal way to gear your raid is to evenly spread items

[thorn plover]

wym? officers get all the gear first

[half star]

You should encourage better discussions and not try to create loot distribution systems on the spot after a kill

[thorn plover]

then the raid leaders egirl

[wide rose]

He sounds like he has a very uninformed idea of what makes a good healer

I cant word that any nicer

[tough portal]

I tried that as Taylorswift and never got loot

What do?

[thorn plover]

uwu

[grizzled seal]

People read how guilds distributed loot in 2009 and didn't think that loot changed since then

Gearing only dpsers with crest system is objectively stupid

[wide rose]

I assume you just spread it out among highest raw dps output for faster kills in any well functioning guild

[grizzled seal]

And how are they gonna upgrade all this loot with their 100 crest a week cap

[thorn plover]

im not saying give healers nothing, but i dont think we get much prio. atleast my experience

[half star]

The majority of guilds are better off just rolling loot + some common sense for trinkets and such, don’t at me

[grizzled seal]

What does "prio" mean

[thorn plover]

im not getting gaze over a dps

[grizzled seal]

We prio certain trinkets but just because a dpser wants an item doesn't mean they should get it

[real junco]

I kinda feel like the "don't argue with a fool" proverb has some relevance here

[thorn plover]

im mainly talking trinkets and special items

the rest is spread like you mentioned

[grizzled seal]

Ok are you running splits

[thorn plover]

god no

[grizzled seal]

Then you aren't serious about gearing and should stop acting like you are

[fast agate]

He says he intentionally drops low for purge and has enough power for Death Strike.

[grizzled seal]

Roll out loot and have fun

You aren't doing rwf prog, you don't actually have damage checks if we are being honest with each other

[thorn plover]

youre not wrong

[half star]

So you’re opening the problem of “loot based on performance” - none of you knows each others specs and pretending you can correctly judge performance like that is silly.

It’s just going to lead to bad feelings and bias

[grizzled seal]

Also a major point

[half star]

I don’t understand why guilds do this to themselves - it surely just perpetuates so much drama

And is so much effort

[quiet wyvern]

well because the rl and officers are dps

[half star]

Genuinely just foster a good culture of “loot is for the team” and use common sense else roll

[quiet wyvern]

obviously they'd want a preferable loot system to them

[young cedar]

Hey everyone,

i am using the following macro for Nature's Swiftness into Convoke, and i am trying to determine if it is actually benefitting from the Nature's swiftness cast as i still have the buff available to use on Regrowth etc after the channel finishes?

#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/cast [nochanneling] Nature's Swiftness
/cast Convoke the Spirits
/cqs

[quiet wyvern]

anyone objecting can be flagged as ignoring impact

or something

[thorn plover]

yes that is how it works

[young cedar]

Ahh pefect, Thank you 🙂

[half star]

Good leadership should only care about bosses dying, caring about loot for weird “I like my personal number go up” is just odd to me

[outer zephyr]

You don't intentionally drop low for purgatory, it's a safety net, dude is just an idiot

[thorn plover]

💯

[quiet wyvern]

i thought purge was some new mechanic

not purgatory

lmao

[woven vessel]

i get funneling to dps as a prio they get a bigger boost than we do sort of and killing faster/enrage is often the issue for guilds

[quiet wyvern]

"i pay for all my talents, i WILL USE ALL MY TALENT"

[grizzled seal]

I'm gonna start throwing insults soon

[woven vessel]

but yea its a general eyeball not a hard rule

[grizzled seal]

If I give 5 items to a mage they get +3 ilvl upgrade on 3 slots

How is that helping anyone

[mighty wigeon]

we should intentionaly not heal these dps officers and point out that they are too bad to loot

[grizzled seal]

Do you guys understand how gearing works in 2026

[woven vessel]

give it to 5 mages 😄

is your raid dying to damage? No then healers are geared enough 😄

[grizzled seal]

Is my raid dying to enrage? Also no

Good comms

[woven vessel]

ok ok overexageration for comedic effect but yea

[grizzled seal]

Disenchant the loot

[thorn plover]

can you drop a healer and add a dps?

[quiet wyvern]

how often do such shit ass guilds

even get to a boss

and hit the enrage wall

instead of "oh wow 3 people dies before we got to the enrage" wall

[woven vessel]

yea its also the more dps is less mechanics is less chances of failing to mechanics

[quiet wyvern]

surely boosting stamina on them helps

[grizzled seal]

That's not a thing lol

[quiet wyvern]

yeah man so fucking true

[grizzled seal]

What kind of content are you guys doing

[quiet wyvern]

what is your WR

[thorn plover]

lfr

you?

[grizzled seal]

Legit quick way to spot a normal/heroic raider is when they talk about skipping mechanics with more DPS

[woven vessel]

90% of the game are like max heroic

[vivid peak]

On sprocket you skipped the ball phase

[grizzled seal]

Right good for them

[cinder pike]

i mean we downed mythic chimeras by skipping the last underground phase

[grizzled seal]

You mean like everybody else

[thorn plover]

thats not a mythic boss

lets be realistic

[cinder pike]

haha

[outer zephyr]

So did everyone except like 5 guilds in the world (us we're stupid)

[woven vessel]

its also early, wait till you got full geared folk. Its surprising what stuff gets if not skipped then reduced

[fast agate]

Thanks for the Feedback

[cinder pike]

the point being, the ability to down that is dependent directly on dps output

[grizzled seal]

Wr1000+ guilds pretending they understand how to optimize loot while running 3 grey parsing ret paladins and no monk in their comp

[woven vessel]

yea and higher gears dps means you can be more slack or have more derps/slackers 😄

[outer zephyr]

Surely but that dependence is hardly linked to maximising gearing on your DPS

[plain steeple]

Personally I can only play with 40.617% mastery. Everything below or above that level is not feasible.

[outer zephyr]

Like you can gear to skip that chim face entirely through m+

[thorn plover]

"breakpoint"

[vapid lily]

Afternoon all, quick question - who are you choosing to LB in raids? I've been using myself as the target but wow analyzer is always showing my active time and effective time as quite low, despite my LB uptime being 100%. Rather than try and position myself, I might just throw it on a melee instead but was curious as to what everyone else is doing

[thorn plover]

depends on the fight, check some logs

[vapid lily]

I've looked at 2 high performing Chimaerus logs and neither of them had LB themselves, but ill investigate further

[plain steeple]

But the first haste DR breakpoint should be at somewhere around 37%, no? (1320 rating)

[thorn plover]

i was being completely sarcastic, referring to the people coming in asking about breakpoints and caps from like a decade ago

but ya i think thats when dr starts

[uncut mica]

Is it not as simple as if you don’t have enough people in your efflo circle, if you’re using that talent on LB, then no wonder it’s less effective.

[snow fractal]

put it on yourself, make sure you drop all bad puddles on the stack, sorted

[vapid lily]

'Sorry raid leader, my efflo was more important'. I think I can get away with it

[thorn plover]

i had it on myself for our kill last night and had 81% effectiveness on my efflo apparently

oh wrong boss

[vapid lily]

My positioning isn't ideal, I know that. I haven't really been thinking about it

[thorn plover]

61% on chim

[vapid lily]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/MF4QRfd9p7vTnZkw/15-Mythic+Chimaerus,+the+Undreamt+God+-+Kill+(6:24)/16-Druvala/standard

This was my chim last night

Is lower than i'd like it to be

[plain steeple]

[thorn plover]

i got madness literally every time on our kill

lol

[spark river]

Could use some work on those clipped rejuvs

14 is kinda high

[vapid lily]

Yeah for sure, I struggle on that fight because my frames are a mess but i'm not perfect at the rejuv clipping regardless

Still super new to resto druid so trying to fix one thing at a time. Its very different to the last 5 years of hpal

[spark river]

Also dont pot lights potential

use reck pot

[vapid lily]

Thanks! I will do

[hushed sand]

Y'all with these pots .. I'm over here hitting mana pots at %70.

[still shore]

What do you think is the best choice from the vault: Hero Gaze or Mythic Boots with haste, vers?

[hushed sand]

Since I've started using NSRT, I've gotten much better with my efficiency, but I have a ways to go before I'm ready to abandon the mana pot. Nothing sucks as bad as being oom at %5 boss health watching folks die

[spark river]

Sim

[hushed sand]

That fight is starting to slow down for me now, but the debuff being private wrecks me. It is the only Mythic raid I've completed though. (Only one I've tried as well)

[spark river]

You will learn with time how to get the most out of your mana. Playing around abundance is very important.

[thorn plover]

Cast more regrowth you won't go oom

[still shore]

How good is Qelive Sim for trinkets? is it ok?

[hushed sand]

For sure. I'm getting there. I've been reviewing folks logs more and watching replays. I have an old habit of just casting constantly. I've healed most of my WoW life, and I've kinda always been that way. I mastered it in the past, but I fell back into that bad habit when I started back. My ignorance of the damage events and timing played a huge role in my inefficiency. Now that I have some audible help, I'm throwing out way less pointless rejuvs.

[snow fractal]

and dont sleep on hotw + bite mana regen on cd

[thorn plover]

Really good

[spark river]

Only if you talent ms

[thorn plover]

I haven't felt close to needing ms in first 4 myth

[hushed sand]

Ive been back and forth on MS myself.

[spark river]

Same

If a fight is below 7 mins im fine

[thorn plover]

I started going oom toward end of Chim, but my average abundance was like 6 lol

[still shore]

Thanks;)

[thorn plover]

Never actually went oom tho

[hushed sand]

I'm currently in starsurge, or whichever one is the aoe instant, instead of cat. I've basically been launching that when it is procced.

[vapid lily]

I play it, but i've had no problems with mana so could definitely drop it

[thorn plover]

How much mana does a starsurge actually net

[pale hare]

Noob question: does spamming regrowth on a target give them a stacking amount of hots or does it keep resetting one hot each regrowth

[vernal meteor]

I think it just refreshes the HoT

[storm kettle]

Resetting

[pale hare]

oof thanks

[vernal meteor]

I made a Emberwing Feather+Convoke macro but for some reason it sometimes cancels my convoke?

[austere cairn]

Why is it that +14 is so much harder than +13's? like it seems the damage gap is insane

[storm kettle]

Add nochanneling to the trinket line

/use [nochanneling] 13
/use [nochanneling] convoke the spirits

[vernal meteor]

alright thanks ; )

[lyric surge]

Wrath: 2200
Starfire: 1200
Starsurge: 1950

This is with speccing into the mana cost reduction talent as well

[spark river]

Not really

I ve done 14s

It could just be that the group you ve done 13s with was better

[austere cairn]

I do +13's like they are heroic and +14's just seem impossible, I guess it was the groups yeah

[storm kettle]

Actually I just copy pasted with a quick google search, not sure if you should use it this way

[thorn plover]

yeah i dont notice much difference between 13/14

[storm kettle]

I think having nochanneling on the trinket is fine

[spark river]

I used my lithany without the nochanneling

Didnt have any issues

[thorn plover]

i got a heroic litany in my hero chest this week

maybe ill try it again

[spark river]

bro same

i had 276 litany in my bags

and the hero chest gives me a 266 one

i upgraded it to 276 out of spite

[thorn plover]

dh i m+ with got ribbon

[austere cairn]

is 271 item level enough for +14's? Trying to see if I'm the problem

[vernal meteor]

Yea I just did nochanneling on trinket

[spark river]

yes

its plenty

[main timber]

14s are 10%(?) more damage than 13s, so if you are walking 13s then 14s shouldn't feel impossible

[vernal meteor]

/cast [nochanneling] Nature's Swiftness
/cast Convoke the Spirits``` like this

[thorn plover]

whats best way to use litany in m+ now

[austere cairn]

I've only played a bit on BFA and Shadowlands and now in midnight, I try to see a lot of guides etc so I can be more usefull, you guys think this status are ok?

[thorn plover]

mastery is super low for m+

[main timber]

They are ok but I'd mastery flask with that

[austere cairn]

This is what I'm currently running

[austere cairn]

okok, I usually haste flask so trying the mastery flask may help!

[hushed sand]

I agree...it's not much. I know I need to use the better option. I'll start focusing on improving there as well. I've mainly been focused this past week on being more aware and timing.

[main timber]

Mastery flask will help a little but honestly just run more dungeons

[thorn plover]

mastery/haste hero neck from the pvp quest would be a big upgrade for you

8 bgs against bots pretty small time investment

[austere cairn]

this quest my friend?

[thorn plover]

ya

[drifting timber]

If my overhealing is 30% am I just casting my shit too early or is that normal for Druid?

[thorn plover]

no mastery on either ring either is a lot of missing mastery

[main timber]

These wll all help you, but also none of that will stop you healing a 14

[hushed sand]

I got the same thing as well.

[austere cairn]

only one gives mastery the other gives versatility yeah

[thorn plover]

crit is worth like 0

[austere cairn]

ikik, but I haven't been lucky with items :/

[wide rose]

if you 6/6 hero upgrade a slot does the 1/6 -> 2/6 myth upgrade of the same slot become free?

[thorn plover]

yes

[wide rose]

ok good to know thanks

[spark river]

its normal

[austere cairn]

you were saying for me to just do more dungeons like +10's or something in specific?

[main timber]

No not 10s

Do more 14s

[austere cairn]

oh ok ok

[spark river]

You need to play 14s

[main timber]

If you are comfortable in 13s then you have the skill for it, you just need to play them more

[spark river]

Because you wont learn otherwise how to heal a 14

[thorn plover]

and what voulk said, fixing your stats will help, but its not going to make you magically be able to heal them

[austere cairn]

Got to 2971 score fast but now for the 3k I've been a bit stuck hehehe so I feel like it's a me problem yeah

[thorn plover]

huge variation in pug groups this season im finding too

[austere cairn]

I want to appreciate you all for your time and help

[thorn plover]

luckily i do very little pugging this season

[hushed sand]

I've been a little lazy this season myself, but I'm finding that a good group of well geared folks is wildly easier to heal than under geared groups that take a lot of unnecessary damage. Maybe it's just me, but I feel like last season I could carry a group under these conditions.

[wide rose]

pugging has been a good way to learn to deal with all kinds of bullshit and just heal through it

but im glad my friendgroup is finally getting ready to run keys together

[austere cairn]

I feel like I'm too afraid of casting convoke, swiftmend and tranquility and just hold them to the * perfect momment * but that makes me just end up spamming rejuvs and regrowths most of the time, should I just send it and then not having a panick button on a oh shit momment?

I hope you guys can understand what I'm saying sorry english is not my native

[thorn plover]

I use convoke at the slightest panic

And it pays off

Send it offen

[wide rose]

you can have convoke for most trash pulls right

[spark river]

I use cat convoke

[wide rose]

if not all

[tame karma]

well swiftmend has like ~15 second CD for a reason, so you use that often for sure

[wide rose]

twice on a longer pull

if you use it early

[thorn plover]

Swiftmend should be sent on cd regardless of damage

[thorn plover]

You speak better English than a lot of native English speakers, don't worry

[rapid pier]

Does someone has the same issue, that Shapeshift in Catform has no GCD ? I mean at the Actionbar it does but if i spam shapeshift it doesnt have so i get out of Catform instant.

[thorn plover]

Leaving a form doesn't have a gcd

[austere cairn]

yikes

ok I need to work on that

[thorn plover]

SM is for buffing rejuv,regrowth

[tough portal]

Shifting out of a form is not on GCD
What you have is a cvar that controls whether 'toggle' spells have a safe period to spam vs not

[thorn plover]

It's healing is meh

[rapid pier]

what you mean with cvar?

[austere cairn]

I just save it because I want to have that empowerement next spell for like a scary time when bars go low and I just regrowth and it heals 3 people a lot

[tough portal]

It's just a setting in game

[austere cairn]

I guess yeah I'm scarred to send off spells in general jsdjksada

[tough portal]

A variable you can change, type in game chat
/dump GetCVar ("secureAbilityToggle")

[main timber]

Yeah you sound like you are just trading way too much overall healing efficiency

If you press SM on CD you can have 5-6 rejuvs out at all times

[tough portal]

If it's off, that's why you're spamming the button and it instantly shifts you out
To change it, type /console secureAbilityToggle 1

[tough portal]

Having that on Rejuv before shit hits the fan is good too

You're prepping worse by having unbuffed Rejuvs

Instead of buffed ones

[rapid pier]

ty a lot ❤️

[main timber]

I think you replied to the wrong person, but I'll take credit sure

[weary hornet]

Healing for the first time this season. How do yall deal with this week’s affix. I’ve dispelled and Apexd it and still have some people with half an hp bar. Is it just a matter of spam regrowth/NSing them? Key level is a 10.

[spark river]

Stolen valor

[rapid pier]

lel what a kekw i am

[thorn plover]

great work voulk

[tough portal]

Orange name just isnt what it used to be anymore

[rapid pier]

ty a lot ❤️

[wide rose]

voulk the savior

[austere cairn]

That's been happening to me too!

[austere cairn]

Okok thank you @tough portal and @main timber I'll try to just spam more overall and fuck it

[tough portal]

Tmj

[thorn plover]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/devour-affix-now-includes-snare-effects-allowing-for-easier-removal-381158?utm_source=discord-webhook

every class can deal with it

if its on cd, you have a dispel

[spark river]

shapeshift gets rid of one

dispell the other

heal the rest

[lyric surge]

that's an affix dps should be able to handle themselves.. it's not just a healer affix

[tough portal]

Love that for our DH homies and whoever

[spark river]

yes, but cant rely on pugs whatsoever

[weary hornet]

I gotcha. Didn’t know about the snare effect that’s good to know. Thanks for the tips!

[austere cairn]

can sunfire and moonfire proc bloodseeker vines?

And do you guys use like healing potions? I always forget about them

[marble brook]

Is this okey for my first heroic raid hehe

[stark cove]

Been scared to death to play a healer spec because I don’t want to get yelled at, started a Druid last night, should I just send it and learn?

[spark river]

Heroic logs just depend on other healers and gear most of the time

[fallen compass]

Don’t let fear take the experience away.

[stark cove]

Valid point

[spark river]

These parses are great, but look how you can further improve on them

[main timber]

You can start with follower dungeons if you want to practice pressing spells

[snow fractal]

No pink or yellow? Back to the drawing board

[marble brook]

Do you happen to remember the site that said what you did wrong by any chance

It was sthing that shows uptime etc I can't remember it 🙁

[spark river]

Wowanalyzer

[marble brook]

Ah that's the one my man tyvm

[uncut mica]

Definitely are times when having a healing potion ready can help get out of a tough situation, especially if you don’t have warlock health stones. Also find we need them more since our self heal spell was taken away from us in Midnight

[spark river]

You re not playing the class properly and are parsing orange in heroic

I took a look at your chimaerus log

34 cpm rejuv

[marble brook]

Any tips what I did wrong

[spark river]

You re not casting any regrowths

[plain steeple]

Is anyone else having lag spikes since reset? i have some mini stutters here and there that never appeared before. Addon CPU trackers etc cannot find the issue.

Its happening sometimes when boss abilities are cast.

[spark river]

I ve had mini freezes from time to time

But never in raid tho

[marble brook]

Ah so much regrowth spam when I'm on 12 abundance gotcha

[plain steeple]

I had the most in raid. Like 0.5s with no frame

[spark river]

Your regrowth/rejuv ratio should be at least 1:1

You need to double mana pot and spam wrath all the time because you just press rejuv

Make use of Abundance on 6-12 stacks

[snow fractal]

34 rejuvs/m, you must get RSI quickly 😄

[marble brook]

What does rsi mean?

[snow fractal]

repetitive strain injury

your fingers are working fast ^^

[marble brook]

It's our first time in heroic and raid leader keeps telling us to move so I felt like I was clicking a bit too much of rejuv

[tardy bluff]

Rejuv on left click go brrrr

[marble brook]

When you're at 12 abundance stack can i regrowth targets with no hots or should I target targets with hots only

[spark river]

Well you re going to learn to cast regrowth on the move real fast

Target everyone

You want to spread as much regrowth hots as possible

[austere cairn]

I have a 3piece set, I've been using those crystals they give, is there other way to get the crystal or the item for the 4set?

[marble brook]

Ahh i see thanks for the feedback I'll try it the next raid and come back or on the last boss when we try tommorow

I felt i was doing sthing wrong but I couldn't put my finger on it

Also always clicking wildfrowth before spreading 3 rejuvs

[wide rose]

LFR/Normal can give you free tier piece items, so run thoses every week until you have 4 piece and wear 4 piece once
you can also get a tier from vault, not necesarily the best choice though
after you get 4 piece once, you get an achiev unlocking dawn charges to drop from content

i think the game gives you 3 charges, next week 4

so you can also wait for next week i think?

and get a 4th charge

[austere cairn]

I will try LFR it's np, but happy to know that next week will be garanted to have the bonus from the set, ty

[wide rose]

i'm pretty sure it's next week

since it's one charge per every two week

[wide rose]

obviously u have to win the roll in LFR so gl

[thorn plover]

happened to me multiple times on chim last night when he cast breath during intermission

turning sound off like i mentioned before seemed to help but maybe coincidence

[sharp mauve]

how is vaelgor stare trinket for resto

[thorn plover]

good

[plain steeple]

I tried that and sound made no difference

[silk ice]

1.5 min cd trinket good in the convoke meta?

[rustic copper]

No

[main timber]

it's just fine, not great

Lines up well with Tree but it's too short a buff for trees healing pattern

[cedar mural]

would u go for mastery flask or haste flask?

[thorn plover]

haste

[tired widget]

can someone let me know why its feel like im getting little value from Duskwraith trinket?

[modern walrus]

I really want to get back into healing, I used to main heal but the last several years/expacs I started trying out dps.

I feel like healing right now looks rough from an outsiders perspective though. There’s so much aoe damage all the time, how does it feel? Bad time to pick it back up lol?

[vivid peak]

So far fights have been fun to heal except the private aura disspells

[lyric surge]

@modern walrus is it that time again to ask if you came from a book? XD

[bold monolith]

has anyone used sparks for a chest? i legit am still stuck at a 246 chest i cannot for the life of me get one

[thorn plover]

Yes that should be your 2nd craft

[spark river]

plenty have crafted chest yeah

[valid tusk]

Hey. In the perfect world. What would be the best to have?

1. Crafted weapon with hunt 285 ilvl

2. 289 haste/mastery wep, and then 2 times crafted arcanoweave?

[bold monolith]

oh i didn't see that on wowhead

[tough portal]

Mostly because it has little value

[valid tusk]

I was just looking on murlok, and looks like a lot more has gone over to 285 crafted instead, compared with 2 weeks ago

[wraith jackal]

Which of the 3 trinkets would you guys prefer in a raid fight?:

263 Locus-Walker Ribbon
276 Vaelgors Final Stare
276 Heart of Wind

[main timber]

You craft a weapon early and swap to 289 later

Murlok is pointless to use for this

[thorn plover]

data aggregate sites are such bait

[valid tusk]

Great because I have final grade in myt, and have crafted, chest, belt and boots. So didn't hope i made a mistake

[main timber]

That sounds fine

[rustic copper]

Can you put hunt on an offhand?

[main timber]

You can

[rustic copper]

Are we doing beloren 1h + crafted oh or chim oh

[main timber]

I dont think Hunt is worth -4 ilvl on offhand compared to another Arcanoweave on a low budget slot

I can double check later this afternoon

But it's much weaker than Sigils were last expansion, and the competition is better

[snow fractal]

any of them pls, I still have a crucible

😄

[valid tusk]

Thanks m8

[bright swift]

So Lura staff

[rustic copper]

Lura staff is just solid mastery right

[main timber]

More likely you use something like Final Grade

[bright swift]

yes

[rustic copper]

I already have chim oh

[bright swift]

Well Final Grade is uh

[main timber]

I just mean that by the time L'ura is dead who cares

[spark river]

we bonus rolling academy boys

[bright swift]

rather get Nexus point staff then cuz there's a lot of good items there with bonus rolls

[rustic copper]

If I loot a myth polearm I can upgrade it to 289 and then upgrade my 1h and oh for free right

[main timber]

Yeah

[rustic copper]

Bonus rolls

[uneven sparrow]

are you horde or alliance cause this is taking me a lot longer than an hour lol

[rustic copper]

Holy moly

[bright swift]

what

[rustic copper]

I dont know how they work

How stupid are they

[bright swift]

they're very good

[main timber]

Are you sure you're playing against bots?

[thorn plover]

the minecart BG takes 10 mins max

[rustic copper]

And you get myth loot?

[tough portal]

Bestie... factions arent better or worse at pvp like this, but also, this is vs bots, factions dont matter

[bright swift]

yes

[main timber]

It might take slightly more than an hour but not a ton more

[thorn plover]

youre playing against bots, factions dont matter lol

[rustic copper]

Wtfff

[marsh inlet]

Can someone suggest me a good UI import for my Druid heal? The one from wowhead seems to be Designed for 1080p but I have a bigger Resolution :/

https://www.wowhead.com/de/guide/classes/druid/restoration/addons-macro-ui-imports#macros-other-useful-stuff

[uneven sparrow]

what do you mean bots like everyone is just botting these bgs? ive qued so many and just keep losing

[rustic copper]

How many items can we guarantee

[bright swift]

Whatever you coin, you get a random item from the loot table and then it removes that option the next time you coin

[bright swift]

there we go

[snow fractal]

training grounds is against ai

[thorn plover]

training grounds

[main timber]

Click the bottom one

[uneven sparrow]

oof

[thorn plover]

its impossible to lose training grounds

[uneven sparrow]

well

now i feel stupid

[bright swift]

Guildie of mine lost a training grounds yesterday

: D

[tough portal]

Nobody is botting in random bgs bro

[thorn plover]

WHAT

[spark river]

aint no way

roast him for life

[uneven sparrow]

been trying random bgs for like 3 hours now LOL

[thorn plover]

immediate gkick

[uneven sparrow]

pls roast me

[thorn plover]

uninstall

not you toast, vrocas guildie

[uneven sparrow]

i missed this important info

and have been bashing my head on the wall

for a bit

[tough portal]

Toast too in 15 mins when they come back having lost vs bots as well

[rustic copper]

alleria neck, Lura ring

[tough portal]

[bright swift]

yep

[rustic copper]

Lura neck

[bright swift]

but you only get 1 roll per week on those

[thorn plover]

😬

[uneven sparrow]

pls no, i wont lose to bots dad

[rustic copper]

I feel like using this on m+ is so bad

[bright swift]

Yeah well

some people don't raid mythic

[rustic copper]

Noobs

[bright swift]

real

[thorn plover]

atleast we arent feeding minigamers mythic raid loot

[spark river]

why wouldnt you use it for a myth nexus point chest

[bright swift]

but yeah Alleria is probably my first roll

[tough portal]

1 in 6 chance twice vs 1 in 3 or 1 in 4 once, not too different tbh

[bright swift]

in 2 weeks

[rustic copper]

Ok but Lura items vs random m+ items

Double socket solid haste ring

[tough portal]

Idk why I even replied actually

My fault

[rustic copper]

I’m bricked

[bright swift]

Niko

[tough portal]

Cheers mate enjoy your turbo

[bright swift]

Yo Lura needs to die before you can roll it

We already get it in like 2 weeks

[main timber]

Yeah you are almost definitely not holding it for L'ura

And I doubt you kill by then

[bright swift]

Ofc

Alleria is such a good roll

but if I get the pants i'm gonna cry

[rustic copper]

I want the pants too

[bright swift]

i have myth pants

[rustic copper]

I’m probably getting them sooner rather than later though

[bright swift]

The boots would be fine too

[rustic copper]

I don’t have myth pants but those are also good stats for 2p

[bright swift]

[rustic copper]

I bought leech hero boots earlier in the season

As every mythic raid healer should

[bright swift]

i have leech boots already

didn't need to buy them

[grizzled seal]

What are you buying leech for

[bright swift]

these are a bit expensive too

[grizzled seal]

And then putting lifebloom on self

[bright swift]

I don't do that

[grizzled seal]

Who are you putting lifebloom on then

[gentle nova]

Im in for burd

[grizzled seal]

On alleria

[gentle nova]

@rustic copper

Its cooked

[bright swift]

Alleria will be on a mage

i've been doing tank but it's not good

[gentle nova]

Play my druid?

[thorn plover]

im spending mine on delves

we also get these to send a weapon or trinket to 298

[bright swift]

oh they confirmed apr 21st

nice

[rustic copper]

Yes

[grizzled seal]

What's the upgrade track before 298?

295 or 294?

[spark river]

6/6 is 289

293 or 294 probably

[gentle nova]

Why are we getting turbo boost and we arent even done gearing LMAO

[rustic copper]

Shit game man

[grizzled seal]

It can't be 293

[gentle nova]

These people man

[grizzled seal]

Have you seen beloren bro

[gentle nova]

Today i will unfortunately

And i will suck

[grizzled seal]

Wait did you kill alleria already

[gentle nova]

Too much pressure

Not me but yea

[rustic copper]

He’s in a big boy guild now

[grizzled seal]

I thought you were in some casual guild now

[bright swift]

11 guilds have killed Beloren

59 Crown

[gentle nova]

I apped to 300 guilds 1 month ago and these guys reached out last week

I watched honestly video

It doesnt look that bad

It looks mechanically simple as fuck ig its just numbers?

Idk

[grizzled seal]

There is no way you are doing 2 egg strat

Why are you in for that

[gentle nova]

I gave my input on 2 discs but even then we dont have 2 discs

[rustic copper]

Is every kill a bear

[grizzled seal]

Obviously yes

[abstract anchor]

hi guys!
do we have a consensus on prosperity vs VI? looking at the chat history, seems like prosperity is recommended, but most top logs are running VI

[grizzled seal]

No other tank comes close

[rustic copper]

Surely moonkin is unplayable

We don’t have a bear

@gentle nova bear status?

[grizzled seal]

Time to get your agility weapon out, buddy

[thorn plover]

niko bear activate

[rustic copper]

No

[grizzled seal]

You know bear does like +100k DPS on egg compared to bdk

[spark river]

you already open vault in guardian

[gentle nova]

Beared up

[spark river]

this is the obvious next step

[onyx trail]

[gentle nova]

Wait so

[robust crest]

why no convo cd reduction ?
maybe 1 TV for that 🤔

[gentle nova]

The guilds that have killed with rdruid are doing 3 eggs?

[grizzled seal]

Did anybody kill with druid?

[bright swift]

Nobody has killed 3 eggs

nobody killed with rdruid

nobody killed without guardian

[gentle nova]

[bright swift]

nobody killed without double disc

[amber gyro]

Hey what do you guys think is the reason to play tree or convoke in raids? I see both but a bit more convoke these days

[rustic copper]

Does your guild have a bear?

[gentle nova]

Isnt next week the raid buff tho should be easy

Yeah

[rustic copper]

Ok

So we don’t have a bear

Do I learn?

[grizzled seal]

Disc does 40k DPS on egg + PI

[rustic copper]

[grizzled seal]

Either play disc or 3 egg

No other options