#resto

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fervent mica
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would think staff is the better "long term" option?

royal juniper
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which would be better heroic vaelgor's final stare or myth emerald's coach's whistle

fervent mica
royal juniper
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qe says ilvl for emerald

fervent mica
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you're gonna replace both eventually... sooo

distant birch
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Keep in mind the cost of upgrading a mystic trinklet

royal juniper
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upgrading cost is fine - i dont think i would see mythic vaelgor though as my guild does not run mythic raid

royal helm
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M+ player, dont really raid.... is it really gaze? I have bis chest already. Man so clueless here. QE said gaze but stam so important at 18/19 keys right now....

tough portal
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@gentle nova last season, highest key from week 2 to end of season went from 17 to 23, but the ilvl gain was ~23 ilvl average, not 14.
TWW s2, similar, went from 16 to 21s and ilvl went from 660 to 683.

royal helm
fervent mica
tough portal
rustic copper
royal helm
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Thats true. I pugged loomy last season for trinket and thinking I could do the same again for this on mythic. Just hard to tell

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Yeah I have maledict vest myth from last week

tough portal
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I think Chimaerus will be puggable reasonably yeah

rustic copper
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People have pugged HoF chim

royal helm
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3 of my teammates in M+ killed it during hof so it cant be that hard

tough portal
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Is helm an upgrade?

silk ice
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Hardest part of chim is the kicks nkoGiggle

royal helm
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6/6 hero tier right now :\

tough portal
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Weapon isnt a bad take, it just wont be equippable immediately but next week with an extra craft.

nova torrent
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this trink not on tier list but is it worth getting since it has leech? or just take the bracers since theyre haste mastery and m track

tough portal
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No that trinket is awful

fervent mica
royal helm
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cuffs are bis

pastel dragon
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anyone have a good method for really learning dmaage profiles in M+ pulls? It's not something I've really done before but I wanna learn

fervent mica
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and those wrists are forever item

nova torrent
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cool just wanted to make sure, was thinking cuffs are the way

frozen prairie
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yeah wrist are good

nova torrent
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cool, thanks guys!

vast dock
fervent mica
tough portal
ocean marlin
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What is the logic behind opening vault as guardian or balance? Targeting something specific?

tough portal
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I'd use mythic whistle and simp my DPS

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Easily

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I love simping

fervent mica
whole horizon
fervent mica
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and there aren't many trinkets that are good from resto specifically

pastel dragon
vast dock
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Yea I got both in my vault, so was deciding which to grab!

tough portal
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Yeah check enemy casts and damage taken by your group in the graph or timeline too

pastel dragon
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ok thanks

inland terrace
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Do you guys not track symbiotic blooms because it doesn’t increase your HPS to do so?

Like we shouldn’t be actively fishing for bursting growth procs because we would trigger them passively?

whole horizon
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correct

inland terrace
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Got it. Thank you!

tough portal
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Spamming Rejuv to trigger that is bad use of your time pressing spells

inland terrace
whole horizon
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we tracked last season when half of our healing was tied to sym blooms bc of tier set

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feels pointless to do it outside of that

tough portal
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Is it even trackable?

rustic copper
tough portal
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Thats the other way around, but resto naturally also has more items you'd actually take

rustic copper
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You’re more likely to get rings/chests/etc. if you remove all the shit resto only loot from vault

opaque frost
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So we are supposed to open in guardian or balance spec?

bright swift
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Only if you need 0 trinkets or weapons from m+

inland terrace
main timber
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It wasn't but then they enabled it again

inland terrace
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Not in grid 2 yet for some reason

main timber
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You can just add it manually to G2

tough portal
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Voulk does your grid profile has a dispel overlay?

inland terrace
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Oh? I haven’t had luck… but I’m listening…

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How can you add it manually? Spell ID?

main timber
main timber
inland terrace
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I see. Thank you!

main timber
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I am not personally tracking it though

tough portal
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It's so limited man

limpid cairn
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do you guys have an addon to see all the healers mana better?

inland terrace
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Yea I didn’t realize how big the set bonus was in previous seasons

tough portal
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It's framed/organized as such a sandbox addon but it just randomly cant do shit that's very intuitive features

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Like I cant use debuff statuses in a bar indicator

exotic magnet
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yuck, wtf:

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qelive says the staves are -0.5% hps vs. my crafted - any chance I'd make that up getting the embellishment back?

fervent mica
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yeah

thorn plover
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Myth weap but you don't equip til next week

fervent mica
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next week its better

exotic magnet
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oh, huh - what happens next week?

fervent mica
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you get another spark

thorn plover
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You can craft again

exotic magnet
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oh, right

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-4 sparks still feels pretty bad, but maybe beats a socket

tough portal
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-4 sparks doesnt matter long term

fervent mica
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you bought early power

exotic magnet
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i did buy early power.

tough portal
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You were never gonna just wear infinite craftable items

fervent mica
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its a good purchase

tough portal
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Yeah the staff served you well bro 3 weeks good stuff

exotic magnet
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haha, thanks gang

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also have a heroic alnseer, but hoping to pug m* chim before long and maybe be eligible for a myth there

fervent mica
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you don't make the staff... and then just don't happen to see one in vault you're crying

royal juniper
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whats everypne crafting?

lament river
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Chest/belt, feet ore cloak

fervent mica
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chest/belt

fervent mica
lament river
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It whas wrong spell

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i changed it

fervent mica
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😄

lament river
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i meaned belt 😄

thorn plover
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I got bis belt and boots now, I guess I'm crafting a ring or cloak next

wide rose
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im seriously considering just taking the hero tier helmet because the wrist is not that much stats, so i probably won't spend crest on it for now, and its not bis
but ill feel bad i missed out on a myth slot

hardy junco
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How can we see defensive usage in logs? Like amount of defensives used by our group

wide rose
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1/6 hero is a lot of crest to spend tho

thorn plover
thorn plover
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If you're worried about 40 hero

wide rose
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yeah

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you're right

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1/6 is just too expensive i have so many tier hero to upgrade for 4/4 tier

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ill just drop a 3/6 from m+

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and cata thoses

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i just really really need either +1 dawn charge or a LFR/normal drop, ill do thoses today

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im at 3

thorn plover
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Should have lots of catalyst charges if you're running content

marsh plover
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why is the vessel of tortued souls in D tier on wowhead it seems like the effect is kinda good?

wide rose
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im trying to get the achievement right

thorn plover
wide rose
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yeah

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not a single one

thorn plover
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It's guaranteed if you got even 1 piece from anywhere

wide rose
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yep

main timber
wide rose
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that's what i'll work on today

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LFR + normals

wide rose
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thats the entire reason i was consider the 1/6 hero head

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ill make a decision after LFR and normals

thorn plover
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Good choice

hazy vigil
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Seeing a bit of people using sunfire on murlok.io why?

thorn plover
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Because some china druid ran it in a top key and everyone copycat

wide rose
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there is absolutely no way i grind m+ all week without the achievement that'd be such a waste

thorn plover
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China love sunfire

rustic copper
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Once you get the achievement you get more charges than you know what to do with

thorn plover
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I have 8 charges and I think I've catalyzed 7 pieces lol

fervent mica
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feels bad to take a hero item at this point... but if you still don't have tier and have cleared your content it may be the play

proven phoenix
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@blissful apex you typed in this place like 4 times and now im seeing your tweets on my tl

mossy widget
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heart of wind vs emberwing feather, any real difference between the two?

rustic olive
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Ones on use

proven phoenix
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I like heart of wind because it is passive !

mossy widget
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leaning toward heart of wind, both dropped mythic ilv in my vault

frank dagger
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Hi everyone,

I’ve been successfully healing M+ 13s as a Wildstalker, but I’m finding the constant shapeshifting into Cat Form a bit overwhelming. The transition from ranged healing to melee DPS can feel very hectic in high-pressure situations, and I don't particularly enjoy the "cat weaving" playstyle.

Given that, I was wondering if switching to Keeper of the Grove would be a better fit for me?

I’m looking for a playstyle that:

Allows me to stay at range more consistently.

Feels less frantic than managing Wildstalker stacks in melee.

Still provides enough throughput for +13 keys and higher.

Do you think the "Dreamsurge" and Treant-focused gameplay of Keeper of the Grove is viable for this level of content, or will I lose too much utility/damage by moving away from Wildstalker?

Thanks for the advice!

rustic olive
mental belfry
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Stay wild stalker its higher HPS then KOTG

main timber
rustic olive
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QElive sim is helpful too

main timber
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If you must, just cast wrath / starfire as Wildstalker

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Until you are comfortable catweaving

mental belfry
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just be lazy and sunfire mobs and HOTW feral form for 50% of the damage anyways

tough portal
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And sit down to drink 3x a dungeon cuz you're spending 400k mana on Sunfire

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And losing utility talents for it too

thorn plover
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🫪

main timber
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I am never going to take Sunfire realistically

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Just Starfire big packs

frank dagger
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in that case i play with the cat talents if i have god trash pack to do dmg and in other situations i play wrath?

graceful carbon
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I have the crafted weapon should i just take the myth track or one of the trinkets

bright swift
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myth track helmet is easy choice

plush mica
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is there an addon out there that will highlight the frames a difference colour when things such as void marked are on a player or is it a case of just look for the icon?

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as void marked is a private aura for some reason

bright swift
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you cannot color frames based on private auras

true pivot
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It’ll be less stressful once you get reps and know when your group does and doesn’t take damage

plush mica
oak eagle
plush mica
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last question i guess there is also no way to blacklist some of the private auras then?

main timber
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Nope

plush mica
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thats so awesome 😄

compact fable
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hey there, hope everyone is having fun with their resto druids.
I'm having a problem.
is any1 else get hit with a crazy amount of add-on errors after reset?
(i only us dandersframes and it is up to date)
any1 know what's going on ?

wise galleon
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Is tehre really no way to log except downoading archon

tough portal
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The targeted spells feature

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I'm guessing

gaunt yacht
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How to stack reforestation prepull now? Are there toys?

thorn plover
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Warcraftlogs

compact fable
thorn plover
rotund cargo
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14 key
player has every hot possible on them
regrowth spam
the dot is overpowering all the heals
is regrowth that ass? Not understanding
Especially when the dot is on 2 people at once

wise galleon
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Cant find anything on wowlogs

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except download ARCHON

thorn plover
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Use eyes

dense lantern
wise galleon
dense lantern
thorn plover
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Do they really make you download archon now? I don't have archon, just Warcraft logs uploader

tough portal
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Warcraftlogs uploader isnt tied to archon

wise galleon
main timber
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I think you can still download the old one but I don't remember where

lament river
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Can the 1 raid mythic boss be pugged now ?

thorn plover
dense lantern
thorn plover
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thank god i have the old one

main timber
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Someone found it the other day, wonder if I can do the same

wise galleon
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post anz zip the old one thanks

dense lantern
wise galleon
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lmaooo

fervent mica
main timber
thorn plover
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rare WCL L

main timber
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lmao rare?

thorn plover
dense lantern
dense lantern
proven phoenix
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wcl has been down longer than its been up recently

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not a fan of that place

thorn plover
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thats brutal theyre making you download archon

dense lantern
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wcl is an incredible piece of software but holy fuck

thorn plover
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time for someone to make a new one

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bring back world of logs

thorn plover
plain steeple
proven phoenix
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if it makes you feel any better no one would care about logs from the world of logs days

silk ice
proven phoenix
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personally sure

silk ice
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And can point to a 99 parse maybe 18 years ago

proven phoenix
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just in context of showing to other people

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I dont care much for super old logs but I keep trinkets that I used on every end boss kill

silk ice
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I still have UVLS

rustic copper
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My alt has 6 gallywix mounts

silk ice
dense lantern
tough portal
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Common archon L

dense lantern
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someone told me this can be disabled with a single button

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i thought I was crazy

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but no they were just wrong

tough portal
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Lmao individual clicks on all of these is crazy

thorn plover
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Brutal

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Reject all?

dense lantern
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you'd think it works

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but no

thorn plover
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Lmao

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I'm not surprised

dense lantern
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btw small ongoing side story

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i contacted wclogs to request all the info they have on me and they share with vendors

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and then I got ghosted

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joke of a company

snow umbra
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I saw a druid with numbers for heal absorbs on their frame, what addon offers this functionality?

tough portal
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Grid2 can prob show it as a number

snow umbra
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Ah I'm using DF

true pivot
wise galleon
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quick resto fellas

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how to imperator averziand ebuff

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well ill search

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its not showing on my grid2

fleet jewel
wise galleon
frigid grove
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Is hero ribbon strong enough that I would want to take it over myth tier?

proven phoenix
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depends on your trinkets

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ribbon is the kind of trinket where the only way u are getting it is vault

frigid grove
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I have final stare and heart of the wind rn

rustic olive
craggy blaze
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pins said chest for second craft and wowhead says low off pieces. Pretty sure chest will be best for me but wanted to make sure thats still the case

wise galleon
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should I check this to see averzian mythic debuff on grid2?

main timber
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Chest is better short-term, you'll transition to low offpieces later on

craggy blaze
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doubt ill mythic raid

main timber
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Yeah Chest is a good choice

craggy blaze
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sweet ty

tough portal
craggy blaze
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anyone good with Dander frames that can help me with missing debuffs? they used to be there but they seem to be gone

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you can see we all have the chains. but not showing in frames

tough portal
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Just gotta choose a different status that would always return true on the indicator

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And use debuff as color

stable iron
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How big a deal is it to get a heroic Vaelgor's in vault? I'm between that or Myth pants. Vaelgor's is on our bis list but it's only a heroic one and I never really understand how on-use trinkets interact with healing

modern meadow
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So question for all you resto gamers. I have mythic raid tonight. I am just wondering since we cant pre stack swiftmends anymore. Do we stay convoke or do we switch to tree. Just wondering cause I know most of our convoke was super early in the pulls due to pre stacking and reforestation for extra hard hitting convoke. Then timing each additional convoke with tree procs. Or do we stay convoke and just move where we use it in CDs for reforestation line up?

pale tapir
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what do I craft after weapon, wrists with arcanoweave?

stable iron
tough portal
main timber
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And there are others that are more straightforward

sand crypt
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hello healer pros 🙂
i am kind of familiar with druid healing, did it on and off the past few years.
midnight i more or less did only play boomy, but stepped in last raid as healer, as it was needed.
what are the most standout things i should try to improve?
i think i overuse reju and underuse regrowth, when i have high abundance stacks. is this correct? tried to improve that over the raid night.
Also what are the cpm for swiftment and wg to aim for?
anything else?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/WhL9Jz6G3ZmfMxTc

me is Rabdruid

craggy blaze
stable iron
thorn plover
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Losing this in 12.0.5 though. So hopefully blizz makes some improvements

craggy blaze
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its been brutal to heaal since its turned off lol

thorn plover
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It's gone again in a few weeks

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Not just for danders

craggy blaze
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just ppl taking random rot

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ugh

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thats so dumb

tough portal
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What is gone?

thorn plover
tough portal
grizzled seal
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????????????????????????

tough portal
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Does the wow team just hate healers?

bright swift
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What does that mean

thorn plover
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It means we will go back to seeing nothing for debuffs

grizzled seal
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what about buffs?

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that's also auras

thorn plover
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This doesn't change our hots

bright swift
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nothing?

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what?

thorn plover
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Yet atleast

craggy blaze
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look at my picture

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thats what you will get lol

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ppl will take damage and you will not know why

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unless u see the ability casted on them

thorn plover
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We will only see stuff blizz says we can see. Actual dispellable stuff. Won't see chains in seat, bleeds in AA, etc

bright swift
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? XD

thorn plover
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Hots are remaining not secret so far

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So those are fine

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But it's coming

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They also said the change yesterday for targeted spells was coming in 12.0.5, but decided a random Monday night at 8pm was better

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So who the fuck knows

obtuse narwhal
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why do liquid and echo have tree of life skilled in their lura kill but nobody else in any other fight i saw?

thorn plover
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Rycn used tree in every fight

obtuse narwhal
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why does nobody else do that?

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or rather why does he if thats stupid? xD

grand herald
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who said it was stupid

bright swift
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It's good

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I'm running it on Alleria now

craggy blaze
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onto the next fun question. I am healing 15 pretty easily on my resto shaman but swapping to druid I feel like im always in a panic in 12s..... mostly same ilvl

thorn plover
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No one said tree was stupid

main timber
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You are very likely just not casting enough spells overall

craggy blaze
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I am pretty sure I am not playing wrong, but unsure why it feels so much harder

opaque frost
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Your not pre hotting the damage @craggy blaze most likely

thorn plover
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Probably want to read some guides and watch some vods

main timber
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If you post a log then we can offer more specific suggestionss

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But you're almost definitely just not used to the spec yet

thorn plover
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Don't watch guides tho

craggy blaze
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i am keeping 2 stacks of rejuv up, ill post the 12 up

thorn plover
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You don't constantly keep 2 stacks on everyone

main timber
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That is already a red flag

vestal star
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Overhealing is probably because you’re four healing a three healed fight

marsh plover
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is VI better than double swiftmend? even if we want more SoTF everbloom procs?

distant rover
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Man. Hero Gaze of the Alnseer or Myth Emberwing feather from vault?

tough portal
tough portal
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Could stand to use Convoke more as well, it's a broken healing cd, very OP

main timber
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Both talents are very good in M+. I am still playing VI

proven phoenix
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I am also playing VI

main timber
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High keys are 50/50

marsh plover
main timber
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I am just running full value build. VI + ND

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8-9 abundance stacks half the key

proven phoenix
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would u be mad at me if I started doing 18s with keeper and elder druid

bright swift
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yes

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Just 2 chested Pit of Saron 17 lol

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when do keys get hard

proven phoenix
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pit is also the easiest key tf

main timber
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This season like 20

proven phoenix
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tbf

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but yeah 18s and above I think are kinda hard

fierce isle
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Should I break 4 set or catalyze these pants?

proven phoenix
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dont break 4 set man

main timber
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Pawn spotted HOLY

marsh plover
fierce isle
tough portal
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I'm a massive prosp truther

fierce isle
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i use it for crap alts

craggy blaze
main timber
craggy blaze
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do i just not hot?

tough portal
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You're casting over 20 rejuvs per min

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It's not a ramp issue

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There's no real ramping in m+

craggy blaze
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ya its really annoying haha

tough portal
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Just use your spells

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That arent rejuv

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A little more

proven phoenix
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im uploading my paladins kill that I died twice on...

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its for the people

bright swift
main timber
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But my value...

craggy blaze
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ok, i as trying to keep8 satcks of abundance up at all times

main timber
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Yeah you don't need to do that

craggy blaze
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good to know

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bc i hated it lol

main timber
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Just pressing Swiftmend -> Rejuv when your group isn't actively being obliterated will keep stacks quite high

craggy blaze
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wild growth on cd?

tough portal
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As long as there's any damage going on

marsh plover
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I miss flourish, now that was the real ramping spell in keys

tough portal
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Lots of pulls wit h nothing happening ofc

craggy blaze
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i feel like this season there is always rot going out

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no matter what

main timber
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WG also very efficient if everyone is just a bit low and you'd rather they're topped

craggy blaze
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ok so WG -> Swiftmend -> Rejuv -> Regrowth if damage is going out?

craggy blaze
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ill try one now

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also, some of these tanks are miserable

gentle nova
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Is ring a good craft

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@main timber

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I think im either crafting ring or neck

blissful apex
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the rng gods blessed me and I got my myth track bifurcation band today

rustic copper
rustic copper
gentle nova
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Ring craft nikolas?

rustic copper
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More than likely

gentle nova
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The rings are also dogshit

rustic copper
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I’m sitting on a champ neck until I either get H alleria neck or craft garf

gentle nova
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The full haste one is sus idk

rustic copper
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How is it sus

gentle nova
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I want more mastery

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Bounty goes hard

rustic copper
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For your wg?

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Bounty spamming is going to benefit from haste more and mastery less than tree no apex wg spammers

gentle nova
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Did you know if you play wildstalker a ns sotf rg on you hits for 600k

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Bounty will heal everyone for 120

rustic copper
gentle nova
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20%?

rustic copper
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I don’t even know if it works

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I’m ngl

gentle nova
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What works

rustic copper
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Nb with sotf ns or pota

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Or heal amps

wise galleon
gentle nova
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It def does

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Eyeballing my raid hp when i sotf ns rg

rustic copper
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I think if it did I would notice a big raid spike when I hit a sotf ns rg

gentle nova
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I do notice it

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U dont?

main timber
rustic copper
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Not rly

gentle nova
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Its easy to check

rustic copper
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I mean sotf rg should go absolutely wicked mode

gentle nova
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Just check events after a ns sotf rh

rustic copper
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Yeah it’s easy

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Check it for me

gentle nova
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Check it for me

tough portal
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So no

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I told you how to show it man

wise galleon
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you showed square idk

prime thicket
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Any tips on what to change? Sometimes i got really low fps ( <30 ) and generally 30-60 🙁

AMD Ryzen 7 5800X 8-Core Processor, 3801 MHz

RTX 5070TI

64gb ddr5

tough portal
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Omg

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Yeah yk my fault I showed you the wrong dropdown

nocturne vortex
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so i saw on the guide to make boots and belt, but if im an engineer should i make bracers instead?

tough portal
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HAHAHA

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It's privateauras

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Not square

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Windows snipping feature is a bit rough sometimes

whole moth
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Quick question friends, is there any reason to craft belt/boots instead of bracers? My hero boots have leech on them and belt is socketed so I kinda feel like bracers are the play.

tough portal
tough portal
nocturne vortex
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oh so engineering is useless? 🙁

tribal sorrel
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Question how much cat do i have to do to make Wildstaker worth it?

nocturne vortex
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I mean I use it for toys/travel but the bracers i mean are worthless

tough portal
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Idk

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You can craft more items they just wont be embellished

rustic copper
#

Most professions are useless

tough portal
#

I'm using engi boots and bracers but the pvp recipes. For pvp, ofc.

tribal sorrel
#

Enchanting and Jewelcrafting are my favorite

rustic copper
#

AINTNOWAY pvp

thorn plover
rustic copper
#

Engineering for Jeeves bank access goes crazy

#

Alchemy for flask duration

tribal sorrel
#

Honestly Engi is pretty crazy for QoL

hasty blade
#

thoughts on playing wildstalker for paladins? 35% healing on self regrowths would be super nice for the absorbs

rustic copper
#

Your own absorb is not hard to heal off

thorn plover
rustic copper
#

Don’t brick your healing to optimize it

nocturne vortex
#

Goblin glider and nitro boots are nice

tough portal
#

Or was

#

I dont check

rustic copper
#

I was higher but private logged

tribal sorrel
#

Is there a certain threshold on how much time you should spend in cat form to make wildstalker better than kotg or is wildstalker preferred either way

thorn plover
hasty blade
#

I also remember looking at a wildstalker log and they didnt even take the 35% regrowth buff

thorn plover
#

You could spend 0 time in cat and it's still better

#

Cat doesn't play into healing at all

tough portal
#

Guaranteeing one on the target you Swiftmend

tribal sorrel
#

Oh ok, a lot of the stuff seems cat related so if confused me

nocturne vortex
#

I've basically been told Keeper for raid and wildstalker for delves and m+

tribal sorrel
#

I thought i had to do so much cat stuff to make it more preferable

grand herald
#

healing is separated from dps

nocturne vortex
#

the cat form buffs dont affect your healing its only if you wanna do some extra damage

main timber
#

Hero trees are just shared across specs. Keeper is half moonkin but that is similarly unimportant to its healing

nocturne vortex
#

so its really good for delves if youre soloing them as resto

tribal sorrel
#

Nah i usually play guardian i raid as feral but i like also being resto available so i can be flexible anyway I’m needed

frosty canyon
#

using QE live, should I set vault to max level for a more accurate calc?

boreal cloud
#

thoughts on magister's alchemist stone?

tough portal
gentle nova
#

My man

tribal sorrel
#

question with the cd reduction talent what's the actually approximate cd of tree of life generally?

rustic copper
#

Like 65% uptime garf

tribal sorrel
#

that's actually a lot better than I thought

plain steeple
#

That’s with reforestation though. Not just celestial guidance.

tribal sorrel
#

oh

thorn plover
#

That will help but can't be your only issue

tribal sorrel
#

I am weighing tree vs convoke I am used to convoke and used it a lot

plain steeple
#

Celestial guidance brings the CD of ToL to somewhere between 1:20-1:30min, instead of the standard 3min.

rustic copper
#

I mean playing tree without reforest is unplayable right

thorn plover
rustic copper
#

Like what are we even talking about rn

plain steeple
#

Everything else doesn’t really make sense.

grave phoenix
tough portal
#

I'm not sure bro

thorn plover
#

Ya definitely turn physics interactions to none or self only

prime thicket
#

Sadge no idea

plain steeple
#

Is the physics interaction causing all the stuttering in big cities?

#

That many people experience?

thorn plover
#

Change graphics card from auto detect to your 5070

runic ocean
#

I can't find echo of l'ura on any of the trinkets information. is it just simply a bad trinket?

thorn plover
grave phoenix
craggy blaze
#

just did a 12 seat and it was breeze

main timber
craggy blaze
#

way less stress straring at hots and trying to keep the perfect stacks

#

1 butt pulled that chained to 9 deaths plus a tank dc on the last bosss

#

lol

#

but outside of that, was so easy to heal and my stacks were just naturally up

#

also wtf i assumed regrowth was eating my mana, it was the damn rejuvs!!!

craggy blaze
#

let me know if there are many more big mistakes, i think let lifebloom fall for a few secs at times

tough portal
craggy blaze
#

i was stressign in 10s like "man im just playing my shaman iunno wtf is going on"

#

lol

main timber
craggy blaze
#

wild huh?

#

is it the same idea in raid? same thing i was trying to get 12 stacks of abundance before casting any regrowth

cedar niche
#

Hola Druidic friends. I might reroll. Is there a good Ressource to find out where the ramps are for each bosses?

proven phoenix
#

resources are logs and vods

#

I dont think there is some central guide

tough portal
#

And the ramps are just all the time, you're constantly cycling from Rejuv ramp into Regrowth spam and back

#

CD timing you figure out with your guild and other people's logs yeah.
Lorrgs.io can help.

thorn plover
#

But rejuvs still make you oom the same

#

In raid your rejuv:regrowth ratio should be like 1:1. Lifebloom uptime above 90%. Swiftmend cpm of like 5.
Kinda the main things that usually get called out in here

craggy blaze
#

cool ty!

vast spindle
#

Hello guys which race is the best for m+ restoration druid?

thorn plover
#

Whatever one you like looking at the most

vast spindle
#

I got lvl 78 troll and lvl 50 night elf

cedar niche
#

Perfect I got tolled It might be smart to reroll ty Mr face2face

#

So playstyle is literally doing 12 Reju and than spamming Rev?

thorn whale
#

If you want to know it’s night elf

vast spindle
#

Thx a lot buddy!

ember folio
#

They can take my skull bash but they'll never take my meld Prayage

grizzled seal
#

I don't mind going to 10

#

Below that it's better to cast rejuvs but also bad to cast rejuvs if there is some massive dmg going on

#

Like you need to time it

#

If you are going to 14-15 rejuvs so that they don't fall off in the middle of some mechanic that's also fine

rustic copper
#

6 abundance gang @gentle nova 🤝

fierce isle
#

just your sotf rejuvs?

cedar niche
grizzled seal
#

I am using hottracker addon

#

I think that's how it's called

cedar niche
grizzled seal
#

It tracks the number of rejuvs and tells you when the closest to expiration is

#

Yes

rustic copper
cedar niche
#

Lets see ty

grizzled seal
#

Niko, do you literally just cast regrowths

bright swift
#

yes have you not seen it

grizzled seal
#

Nope

proven phoenix
#

its degenerate

bright swift
#

it's so dumb

proven phoenix
#

theres no way its good

grizzled seal
#

How would I see it

bright swift
#

he has linked it

grizzled seal
#

I'm asleep when he chats and his logs are private

bright swift
grizzled seal
#

lmfao

#

what boss is that

spark river
#

should be paladins

hearty coral
#

Is that convoke or tree time to try it

#

...

grizzled seal
#

That's convoke

tough portal
#

Convoke

bright swift
#

it's convoke I think, Niko doesn't believe in tree

thorn whale
#

Playing tree to only press RG would be great

#

In line with going no 4p

grizzled seal
#

Ok surely you don't play +6 sec refo @rustic copper

frosty tree
#

Wow, Delves as a healer is insanely easy.

rustic copper
#

Idk which is better im ngl

#

And i think it’s fight dependent

grizzled seal
#

Why?

rustic copper
#

Lura looks extremely rotty

bright swift
#

that's crazy

#

10% regrowth and you don't take it

grizzled seal
#

All your healing is regrowth

rustic copper
#

I think if it’s more bursty dmg you want to prep hots spam regrowth

#

And if it’s more rotty you spam regrowth more

thorn plover
#

Tldr spam regrowth

rustic copper
#

My healing on crown has rejuv higher

wet stone
#

so sad say the 272 item in vaults is a chest with 0 secondary stats of use, my 263 is bis one. any reason to still take it?

thorn plover
tough portal
#

263 isnt bis

grizzled seal
#

But wg also buffs regrowths by quite a lot

clever remnant
#

do we open vault with resto lootspec or boomi for the trinkets?

rustic copper
#

I’m trying to end the fight at 0 mana

tough portal
#

If you dont have any item that looks long term locked in, like myth-track great trinkets or haste-mastery gear, take whatever is the biggest immediate upgrade on QELive

rustic copper
#

Guardian 🎦

#

I dont know which has less trinkets out of resto or balance im ngl

clever remnant
#

y but dont the heal trinkets suck most of the time compared to the others? :D

rustic copper
#

But the resto ones are pretty bad

thorn whale
#

I’m opening as resto and getting vaelgor

#

I’ve said it now

#

Quote me in 7 hours from now

deft oar
bright swift
#

who is talking about keys

grizzled seal
#

I dont wanna use vaelgor

deft oar
grizzled seal
#

The cd is shit

tough portal
wet stone
thorn whale
#

Legs I guess

#

Head maybe

tough portal
# wet stone

If you dont have any item that looks long term locked in, like myth-track great trinkets or haste-mastery gear, take whatever is the biggest immediate upgrade on QELive

grizzled seal
#

I dont want to be in a situation where I have to pick that trinket so I am opening as guardian

wet stone
#

thanks

grizzled seal
#

I have suffusor

#

So there is nothing for me to get

#

Hoping for the gaze

foggy trellis
#

do i chose ribbon upgraded champ > heroic
or
myth hands/legs which are both champ > myth upgrade and cata

plain steeple
grizzled seal
#

Will last for longer

foggy trellis
#

with leech

thorn plover
plain steeple
gentle pollen
#

We dont use the 2x swiftmend talent right?

plain steeple
thorn plover
knotty fox
#

Is harmonious bloom worth taking or no?

pulsar kettle
#

i like it for m+.

thorn plover
#

Sometimes

bright swift
grizzled seal
#

Lock in, man

bright swift
#

nah

cedar niche
#

How many Abudance stacks Am I aiming for?

bright swift
#

easy key anyway

hard bear
#

Does anyone know why I would be having issues with convoke and tranq not wanting to go off and requiring me spamming the button 3-4 times before it starts casting? Gcd isn’t on cd

#

It’s causing deaths because I can’t be very reactive when people start taking too much burst dmg 😭

thorn plover
#

Are you using macros for them

gentle nova
hard bear
halcyon kayak
#

when the vault gives you haste mastery all round

grave phoenix
#

best trinkets for M+?

ember solstice
#

Does anyone know if the Twilight barrage effect from the nexus point rings is good enough to make it worth equipping both rings? I have the haste mastery ring equipped and the other is in today's vault.

thorn whale
#

It’s not

bright swift
#

We wiped last boss garf

cursive pilot
#

2 great ring replacements hmm

wide rose
#

nothing from lfr praying on normals

hearty coral
#

I wish SadgeCry

urban kestrel
rustic copper
bright swift
#

just knowledge gap

#

I didn't know the aura tickd for 250k

soft eagle
#

why QE sim recommends Heart of Wind Myth over off hand Myth (Mastery/Haste)? I have weapon 285 crafted but I thought main hand hero + off hand myth would be an upgrade. Trinket is that good?

mental belfry
#

OH are just shit

#

gaining 9ilvls of stats on 1/3rd of a weapon while losing ilvls on the other 2/3rds of your weapon.

gentle nova
#

@bright swift can you tranq both consumes on chimaerus?

urban kestrel
#

they're like 2min apart arent they?

gentle nova
#

Idk

soft eagle
#

hmm I see, I don't have a really good main hand too, all have crit stats... that sucks

wheat herald
#

boys im confused, which trinkets are actrually bis for m+ vs raid

thorn plover
#

look at QE

tough portal
snow dome
#

I'm sure its been asked but i couldn't find it, but how do you add/remove enchants in QElive sims? saying a straight 3 ilvl upgrade from vault is a downgrade due to lack of enchant

urban kestrel
#

consumes are 1:05, 2:17, and 5:17

#

and no one should even be seeing consume 4 at this point

gentle nova
#

So tranq 2nd and fifth?

main timber
urban kestrel
#

you could do 2nd and 3rd if you wanted yeah

gentle nova
#

3rd i mean lmao yea

bright swift
charred merlin
#

do I socket here or take feather for offspec? I already have a myth helm and current trinkets are hero gaze and heart of wind. can put socket in crafted belt or myth helm. sim shows vaelgor heroic as being the best choice and myth feather over wind is only +38 hps

bright swift
#

@proven phoenix My vault cannot be worse than you...

thorn plover
#

unless you want trinket options

proven phoenix
#

it can always be worse buddy

thorn plover
#

on use option not the worst

charred merlin
#

they probably want me to boomie on 3 heal fights is the main reason I'm considering feather tbh

snow dome
rustic copper
#

holy moly shoulders

night sorrel
#

Question - I only have 7% crit rn ( 81 ) and with abundance allowing regrowth to crit quite consistently - i was wondering if crit even mattered at all?

#

I was trying to get rid of champ wrists and craft new wrists - but I wanted to do haste mastery

#

but it would lost more crit

grand herald
#

But generally we can stack haste mast

night sorrel
#

Roger - when I QE live it just says " random stat 1 and 2 "

#

oh ok

#

i see if i swap stats it will swap percentages

#

each go

waxen ingot
#

or 4

#

3 or 4

rustic copper
#

my vault is tier gloves or offpiece shoulders

#

and the shoulders are OP as FUCK for me

soft eagle
#

I have another question. Why wowhead recommends Resilient Flourishing over Root Network and Twin Sprouts over Implant (WS m+)? I saw a discussion here one day saying Root Network + Implant were more HPS but I don't remember why we're not talenting it.

waxen ingot
#

yeah idk im pulling paladins 1 hour overtime and people are dying to shiled still

thorn plover
rustic copper
thorn plover
#

what shoulders

#

bonespines

#

oh scroll up 2 lines

#

dur

sinful musk
#

Is anyone using a crafted neck? I've been struggling to get an upgrade off my blue neck so I'm wondering if this Phoenix Torque is any good

thorn plover
#

its free hero haste/mast

#

you just do 8 battlegrounds against bots. takes like an hour

sinful musk
#

Okay I'll look in to it. I never pvp so feel bad for my teammates haha

#

Oh bots? EZ

thorn plover
#

the quest in silvermoon by all the other quests

sinful musk
#

Hero's Trove right? I got the quest. Thank you big dawg🙏🏾

thorn plover
#

yep

sacred wasp
oak garnet
upbeat flame
#

If I have say 12-15 Rejuvs out and there's not a ton of damage coming out, is it still worth spamming regrowths for the hot aspect of it? Or should I just keep ramping up the rejuvs more for the next damage event?

thorn plover
#

regrowth

sand crypt
#

is wowanalyzer down or do i have a bad link or something?

thorn plover
#

looks down

#

nvm working for me

sand crypt
#

can you upload a log there?

#

or do you get an error then

gentle nova
#

ain no way

main timber
gentle nova
thorn plover
soft eagle
#

ty everyone! 🙂

cerulean stratus
#

yoo

gentle nova
#

i hate that shit

#

i need an eye

placid flax
#

ya i need better trinkets, 1 ring, and neck but no luck

wide rose
#

i can pick the bracers

wide rose
#

it rly helps when almost nobody rolls

placid flax
#

ya i just got my first piece last week from vault and got 4pc now and 6 charges

#

im like bruh give me loot not freaking charges

#

or the typical warband loot

radiant narwhal
#

alright

#

whos got the best in-depth rdruid raid guide for this tier

#

gimme gimme gimme

proven phoenix
#

there is none

#

if u already know the most basic things then just go to vods and watch those

main timber
#

This is Chimp we are talking about

#

@radiant narwhal Read the wowhead rotation page in full

proven phoenix
#

lmfao

radiant narwhal
#

thank you sir Voulk

pastel dragon
#

ive been highmount tuaren cuz i like the stomp but are there a lot of things in M+ you can shadowmeld to make easier?

proven phoenix
#

yeah

#

you can entirely cancel a lot of casts with shadowmend

pastel dragon
#

is there a list or a way to check if something can be melded?

proven phoenix
#

no list its just word of mouth really

#

most of what I know to meld are what people tell me to ngl

bright swift
#

Bro the only reason I might go night elf is to drink mana in combat

#

Shit is so annoying

pastel dragon
#

oh word i didnt consider that angle too

tough portal
#

Go haranir

#

Extra healing cd

pastel dragon
#

the druid forms do look cool lol, is that racial CD actually good?

river holly
#

Anyone got logs or shit from +12/13 caverns or in general. I got absolutely blasted today and can't tell how much was me

placid flax
gentle charm
#

okay vault day. Was niko meme'ing when he said we should be opening as feral now?

mystic crater
#

niko is always memeing

main timber
#

Opening as a non-resto spec is very conditional

median marsh
#

kinda strong season 1

main timber
#

So you won't get a generic answer without knowing more about you

median marsh
#

for 1 GCD

pastel dragon
#

ah ok seems neat but not a game changer

gentle charm
main timber
#

And if you've already crafted a 2 hander, how much you raid, current trinkets etc

#

Safe to say opening as Guardian has fewer trinkets / weapons overall

#

And base your decision off that

gentle charm
#

roger thanks for the info

solid hornet
#

Last season there was an add on that let you put in data for a cooldown timeline from another player, and it would notify you during raid fights when to use certain cooldowns. Is that add on gone/is that still a thing? (Mostly for curiosity’s sake to see when others are using their cooldowns).

#

I swear I have googled but am clearly using the wrong keywords lol

thorn plover
#

boutta go brick some keys as bear, wish me luck

tough portal
#

I always forget cuz racials arent on the CD manager

grand herald
snow dome
grand herald
#

🙁

tough portal
#

This is a crazy pull out of my delve map

main timber
#

Ah yeah embellish will do it

tough portal
#

The speed trinket

solid hornet
main timber
#

True BiS trinket

tough portal
#

Best in Speedset

main timber
#

It would be on wowhead but they didn't want an S++ tier

surreal ocean
#

why is this

#

surely avoidance/speed s better

gentle charm
grand herald
grand herald
gentle charm
#

I checked the max ilvl button

tough portal
grand herald
#

its not a helm btw

#

:^)

tough portal
#

Fuck

#

I fell for the icon

grand herald
surreal ocean
grand herald
surreal ocean
#

that idea here is that u may get more healing for ur parse from catweaving?

gentle charm
surreal ocean
#

o

grand herald
gentle charm
#

but even over mythic trinkets?

grand herald
#

you have pretty good trinkets

gentle charm
#

man firstworldproblems PepeHands

whole horizon
snow dome
#

or just slam a myth trinket for apparent ilvl?

gentle charm
#

i honestly am probably going to slam the myth trinket just for the ilvl to look better to pugs yeah KEKW

echo ingot
gentle charm
#

also monkaW @main timber replied to me on reddit

main timber
main timber
#

lmao ty

#

I kind of understand their position. They don't believe the item tuning team could be this bad at tuning items

gentle charm
#

i mean hasn't this been a pattern since delves came out? There are always insanely overtuned trinkets in there

main timber
#

But already this tier they have more than doubled some trinkets and those trinkets are still awful

#

Yes to Delve trinkets though this isn't one

gentle charm
#

oh lol

echo ingot
#

i'm so bad at this sim stuff 😢

peak jay
#

Thoughts on control vs power of the dream?

bright swift
#

Control is very good

#

Power does very little

peak jay
#

Yeah, I went control halfway through vorasius last night and my hps skyrocketed but no official resto guides suggest it at all which I found surprising

proven phoenix
#

I promise control is not so strong that it skyrockets your hps

#

its very minor

bright swift
robust flume
#

edit

peak jay
#

Skyrocket may not be the right word but it was noticeable in a high burst damage environment

pastel dragon
#

got a crit/haste belt with a socket from the weekly Mythic dungeon quest, better than what i expected

waxen ingot
#

guys did we not have a talent that makes regrowth selfheal 40% stronger

#

or am i making stuff up

#

i swear to god it was in the hero tree

main timber
pulsar kettle
waxen ingot
main timber
#

You can swap to it, but it's not a large HPS increase

waxen ingot
robust flume
#

Anyone know if its possible to combine these two macro?

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Incarnation: Tree of Life] Incarnation: Tree of Life
/cast [known:Convoke the Spirits] Convoke the Spirit

#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/cast [nochanneling] Nature's Swiftness
/cast Convoke the Spirits
/cqs

waxen ingot
#

for different talent builds

tough portal
#

Bruh

#

Those are different macros

#

Yes?

waxen ingot
#

and make it so it auto swaps

robust flume
#

lol

waxen ingot
#

like put them in the same button

#

so it will just change

robust flume
#

I have incarnation and convoke on the same button

#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/cast [nochanneling, known:Convoke the Spirits] Nature's Swiftness
/cast [known:Incarnation: Tree of Life] Incarnation: Tree of Life
/cast [known:Convoke the Spirits] Convoke the Spirits
/cqs

I'm thinking this

tough portal
#
/cast [known:33891] Incarnation: Tree of Life
/stopmacro [known:33891]
/cast [nochanneling] Nature's Swiftness
/cast Convoke the Spirits
/cqs```
#

Try this

tough portal
#

You dont have to type the full spell name

waxen ingot
#

but not at the same time?

#

like you can have 1 macro on w/e button, and the other macro on the same button. And it will change based on your talent build

tough portal
# waxen ingot so it will just change

Only if you save different loadouts, but having 2 loadouts just for swappign Convoke vs Incarn is much more annoying and aggravating for no real gain

robust flume
#

i want NS to always cast before convoke if I have convoke talented, but if I have tree of life, I use NS on other things

#

true gamer moves

tough portal
robust flume
#

This one definitely works. NS is ignored if incarn is talented

#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/cast [nochanneling, known:Convoke the Spirits] Nature's Swiftness
/cast [known:Incarnation: Tree of Life] Incarnation: Tree of Life
/cast [known:Convoke the Spirits] Convoke the Spirits
/cqs

rustic copper
#

4 pieces of tier huh ?

echo kraken
#

Does anyone happen to know the average RPPM for this item?

echo kraken
# rustic copper it is bad

The state are ass - I have no argument there. But if the RPPM is decent in raid, the Leech is intriguing

rustic copper
#

this tier has been the most important stats are

#

bad stats is a problem

rocky lodge
#

hey, just wondering if a neck with 2 prismatic socket (that is 35 haste and 209 mastery) is better than a neck with 129 haste and 115 mastery (1 prismatic socket). both are champ

thorn plover
#

sim it

gentle nova
#

eh illt ake it ig

rough patio
#

Anything that can remind me to refresh Lifebloom other than skill issue?

whole horizon
#

sound alert in CDM

#

buff tracker in CDM

#

numerous other addons that can do the same thing

vocal hinge
#

m33kauras my goat

tough dagger
#

why is vessel of tortured souls so bad but gaze of the alnseer so good? I assume it's basically a proc rate thing?

marsh prism
#

my turn

tough portal
#

Aggravated by the vessel procs being things you have to look for and walk over

spark narwhal
#

euh, resto doesn't use armor kit ?? I see nothing about which one to use on internet.. And I barely know nothing about enchant and such tbh...

tough portal
#

Our pinned guides should mention it

thorn plover
#

its on the wowhead consumables page

tough portal
#

We had someone 2 days ago asking why the guide suggested the mana one I remember voulk answering

spark narwhal
#

oh okay thanks, i'll search in those, ty

marsh prism
#

wait huh.

#

it also had a socket i didnt even notice?

onyx trail
#

fire nance stays winning

proven phoenix
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I had to take a socket

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this game SUCKS !

marsh prism
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yeah i had to take a socket too :/

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on my myth hat catpointingandlaughingemoji

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onyx trail
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holy shit insta favorite

marsh prism
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its incredible

marsh prism
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ah yes singlebungle

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did you know that gif broke the other day like it was just not embedding

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I legit saw my life flash before my eyes

marsh prism
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i was there

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i was trying to embed uhhh

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this

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that ones incredible too

marsh prism
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holy fuuck it took a fucking second i was like there is no fucking way it doesnt embed again

rough patio
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It's a win baby

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that gif reminds me of this

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spark narwhal
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erf, I found Reagents, enchants, gems in pinned but nothing about armor kit, it shouldn't be that important, I'll just put endo :0 couldn't hurt

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what do armor kits give

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I didnt even know those existed

spark narwhal
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it's a thing leather worker can do, it give agility or str, and armor or endo

oak garnet
tough portal
spark narwhal
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at least it's what mine does... But as I said I just discovered those U_u

tough portal
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Idk the name of the armor kit

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But it'll be there

spark narwhal
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oh this ???

tough portal
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There.

rough patio
proven phoenix
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oh thats the armor kit ICANT I thought it was like shadowlands style where u equipped it as a consumable every 2 hours or smth

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proven phoenix
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I thought I was trolling

tough portal
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Until then it's fuck offspecing

spark narwhal
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Huh ! It's a tailoring thing.. ! Treason ! I guess I can't do relevent armor kit by myself as leatherworker D:

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I though it was an enchant..

spark narwhal
wide rose
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lot more chill now. need to replace some champions but theyre scattered all over

rustic copper
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ypu get infinite charges once you build 4p

wide rose
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yea ik

rustic copper
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just do some keys

wide rose
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ik

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i had 0 tier pieces this morning

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trust me that was my goal

wide rose
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ty!

proven phoenix
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you need a better neck

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get bging

wide rose
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i was checking which dungeon statistically has the best hero for me yea

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seat has the most slots i need but the loot table is just massive

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the neck comes from pvp actually