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rustic copper
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There were adds so I didn’t get my trinket to proc

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That’s really bad omegakekW

thorn plover
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I used once since nerf and went back to a passive trinket

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Couldn't be bothered to play around it

rustic copper
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I have hero litany and veteran heart of wind on my alt

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As my 2nd trinket options

reef zenith
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same, especially since I icould put my crests elsewhere so it was 263 delve trinket vs 266 litany. Juice not worth the squeeze.

urban merlin
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oh so you can actually proc it then kk

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i was like, but my feral skills doesnt proc it

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and what do you guys think about this trink for mplus?

reef zenith
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rake and rip do proc it, but I don't think it was proc'ing if I was tab raking

stiff ruin
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how do i fix this NPC namplates? Platinator?

daring summit
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Voulk I just wanted to tell you that you inspired me

thorn plover
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I like trinkets I don't have to think about

reef zenith
# urban merlin and what do you guys think about this trink for mplus?

it's ok, it's in the pack of decent trinkets. The big raid trinkets are obviously the best, then stuff like heart of wind or a couple of delve trinkets if you can get them hero track are a bit better than the average but not touching the big ones. Then the also rans aren't really that much worse

urban merlin
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if i use feather on cd with convoke is it ok ?

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or it is better to have as a separate cd?

daring summit
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why are they using r druid on the last boss for rwf

urban merlin
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thniking about the best 2nd one

thorn plover
reef zenith
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if you're only doing keys, there's better than emberwing. The delve trinkets on champion or the voidstorm champ rep trinket for starters.

daring summit
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@gentle nova bro why is liquid and echo using a r druid

thorn plover
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Because need druid buff

daring summit
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echo is using 2

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Niko ur actually who i wanted to ping

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but i thought u were busy

rustic copper
# urban merlin

Definitely don’t macro it to convoke, convoke is not hasted so a good chunk of the trinket will be completely wasted on speeding up your casts while convoke is channeling

rustic copper
daring summit
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seems kinda mid to me compare to other tiers i played it

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good spot healing, triage, and rot healing

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but like mw does it better imo

rustic copper
daring summit
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oh

rustic copper
grizzled seal
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How often do they split into separate groups on lura?

daring summit
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holy shit torty

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why do u think they have 2 r druids

grizzled seal
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No idea, havent been watching today

daring summit
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would you have expected them to play 2 based on how r druid feels for u so far this tier

grizzled seal
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Nah

daring summit
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based

drifting timber
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What do I cast when I come outta convoke and still in tree form? Anything or are certain spells still buffed

primal cargo
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is it normal lifebloom to be least healing hot ?

wise bay
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are u guys using your relationship on tank or weak dps

fervent mica
drifting timber
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ite

primal cargo
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yo gaze of ansleer from chest

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its good one right

fervent mica
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yeah

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chest is champ though...? so it can be beaten with some hero things

primal cargo
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its fresh 90

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maybe later 😄

pastel dragon
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in magisters terrace, how many orbs on the first boss can you usually safely absorb?

sudden junco
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I usually take 1-2 with barkskin

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no clue if that's optimal or not

fervent mica
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the debuff falls off pretty quick, if you get a couple right away you can usually soak more

vivid peak
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i've been taking 3 with bear and bark

sudden junco
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non related question, but what ilvl is recommended for +12/13?

fervent mica
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9001

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it all depends how comfy you are... people were doing them day 1 in like 250 gear

sudden junco
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Idk why but i often feel like i'm healing with a 70% healing less debuff, but sometimes it spikes crazy with crits(?) i think

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new to the class and spec so i might be missing something really simple

fervent mica
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that just sounds like you don't know how all of your talents interact

sudden junco
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Most likely yeah

fervent mica
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theres some good guides in the pins

sudden junco
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So far I've been trying to consistently uptime lifebloom on tank with hots on top, popping swiftmend off cd to spread rejuvenation unless there's a big chunk of healing needed then i'll use regrowth

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wild growth i pop just before damage aoe

sudden junco
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most of the time it is

primal cargo
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wild growth must be used on cd

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if i understad right the tallents

fervent mica
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theres no point in using it if theres nothing to heal

sudden junco
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i usually pop it nearly off cd

primal cargo
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and when u use soul of forest ur lifebloom start to bloom insanly

sudden junco
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if theres even a chip of damage done to group

fervent mica
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a lot of the time in keys you aren't healing anything

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just kitty go brr

sudden junco
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I've noticed that i never get a mana break in dungeons so i gotta play somewhat careful with mana lol

fervent mica
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you should never have mana issues

sudden junco
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so i rake everything then rip the prio target

fervent mica
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i've had to drink once this season... in a 15 seat last week

sudden junco
thorn plover
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Eww mana pots

sudden junco
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thats what im saying

thorn plover
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I don't even carry them

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Rather send recklessness pot

fervent mica
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you're most likely overcasting rejuvs

sudden junco
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though i don't know how much of it is my skill issue and how much of it is not interrupted casts

sudden junco
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i tend to waste some resources sometimes

fervent mica
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blaming it on the group just causes people to not try to fix their own issues... so just focus on you first

sudden junco
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Yeah I'm not blaming my group, but considering it a small possibility

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I'm definitely doing something wrong on my end

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That's why i'm here ^^

fervent mica
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check guides, will make it easier for you. then its just practice, learning how much damage to expect

primal cargo
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im 206 ilvl atm and i will try to push some m+ keys to check how it feels

sudden junco
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Pretty much practice yeah

fervent mica
hearty coral
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You can get a fresh 90 to 235-240 in like 3-4 hours just by doing the weekly contents and your delves

fervent mica
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yeah... its a really nice thing this season

hearty coral
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My DH ended up at 239 and Paladin 242

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Oh and grabbing your reknown gear etc

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Which unless you are A newer player you should have those all up enough by now

whole horizon
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lots of rdruids are pressing their SotF to spread rejuv before damage comes out

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ignoring the fact that as soon as you consume SotF, your apex goes brrrr

sudden junco
whole horizon
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you want your apex going brrrrr when the damage happens, not before it

sudden junco
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i tend to do "just in case" rejus on group

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and not when i should

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I also noticed by reading the wowhead guide that i'm not using innervate with spreading rejus

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instead using it to spam regrowth

whole horizon
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in keys innervate is a dead talent

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you don't take it, you shouldn't be having mana issues with good play

sudden junco
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Gotcha

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I gotta practice with rejus more then a lot

fervent mica
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theres nothing wrong with overhealing while you're learning dungeons either

polar lichen
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feels kinda annoying holding sotf and not being able to send "just in case" rejus without wasting the apex proc

fervent mica
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but just understanding how your talents work together will help a ton

thorn plover
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#1 most common rdruid mistake is too much rejuv. Raid and m+

sudden junco
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the apex brust i do understand and have been using it to heal burst damage

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as it splashes

whole horizon
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if you're holding a single SotF for longer than 6 seconds the cd has already refreshed

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if you run VI then you have to manage that your own way, i don't play VI

fervent mica
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vi is the way <_<

whole horizon
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i can send SotF whenever i want

fervent mica
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hate having to cast lb all the time

whole horizon
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Verdant Infusion, it's the recommended talent

sudden junco
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ah

whole horizon
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the one that extends your HoTs when you press Swiftmend

reef zenith
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It’s not so bad with VI either - you can swiftmend and just hold SoTF knowing swiftmend is coming off cooldown in meantime

fervent mica
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its a choice node. both are good but require different play

reef zenith
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And if you have some hots out that you’ve extended with the VI, you’re not caught pants down

pulsar kettle
whole horizon
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you definitely have to refresh LB more often playing Prosperity

sudden junco
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Thank you for the feedback though all, i'll definitely try and keep an eye on my rejuvenation usages and apex burst splash more ^^

fervent mica
pulsar kettle
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yes?

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tank is in danger maybe 2-3 pulls in these keys

reef zenith
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Constantly is maybe overdoing it…you want to keep it relatively stable for stacks, but you do move it when there’s good reason so you can apex burst someone up

sudden junco
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I have not utilized that at all

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usually i only keep it on tank 100% of the time

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and keep it refreshed

whole horizon
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you're definitely missing most of its value then

reef zenith
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It’s really powerful to move it on the cleave heal checks

sudden junco
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ahh gotcha

whole horizon
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the cleave portion is only 30% of the healing it applies to LB's target

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if the raw healing is more beneficial to someone else, it shouldnt be on the tank

reef zenith
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Eg the double magic effects that make you choose one to dispel and one to need to focus - dispel one and lb and apex the other

sudden junco
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So you keep it on tank on pulls then move it to someone else once they are stable?

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moving it someone when they need the apex healing that is

whole horizon
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that's a better way to approach it than leaving it on tank permanently

sudden junco
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Gotcha

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thats extremely helpful

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I've been letting it sit on tank forever

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Does this apply to raid healing as well?

pastel dragon
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after playing VI for a while i have been swayed over by prosperity

honest mica
thorn plover
reef zenith
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Another good example is the corridor to 2nd boss in magisters terrace…2 people get nasty bleeds, you can see one of them get targeted so you move lifebloom there. You get to swiftmend and rejuve or regrowth the other person and it triggers the bloom on the first, giving both some throughput

sudden junco
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Ahh gotcha

sudden junco
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what's the benefit of going no apex in raid?

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actually nvm

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i found the section

vivid peak
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damage is more split so healing 1 guy alot is not as beneficial

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on paladins its good

honest mica
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it looks like w/o apex - you play around rejuv and regrowth more than lb

sudden junco
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One last extremely noob question from me, is it nearly always better to SotF rejuvenation and not regrowth?

thorn plover
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Situational

sudden junco
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it's super situational i know, but I haven't completely figured out that one yet and sometimes i be hesitating

thorn plover
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Rejuv is always safe

sudden junco
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I guess when no damage is coming anymore then reju is better?

honest mica
thorn plover
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If you have multiple people need topped send regrowth

sudden junco
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Yeah that's how I've been pretty much using it

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4 people got slapped with 60% of their HP i SotF regrowth

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I tend to combo natures swiftness and SotF together

cerulean stratus
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thats bad

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if you play with convoke

sudden junco
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I do yeah

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then i'm trolling lol

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Seems like i have a lot to elarn about this spec still

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I did gain some valuable knowledge from y'all so thanks ^^

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I'll watch my rejuvenation/SotF usage and lifebloom swap accordingly

thorn plover
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Don't ns convoke m+

sudden junco
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ns?

thorn plover
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Nature's swiftness

cerulean stratus
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ah this is m+ talk

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yuck

sudden junco
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I feel so stupid not knowing the acronyms lmao

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yeah i haven't been NS convoke

thorn plover
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Its a bit of both I think

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Lol

cerulean stratus
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in raid you dont do that

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but in m+ idk so its wtv

sudden junco
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what's the issue on NS regrowth with SotF active?

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Is it like a waste of an emergency cooldown?

fervent mica
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if you need that much healing, its fine

thorn plover
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It's fine in m+, in raid you want to use ns with convoke

fervent mica
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but odds are you don't

sudden junco
cunning parcel
rigid mirage
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is there a macro to go into tree form without canceling it if i spam the button

thorn plover
cunning parcel
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Oh that’s awesome

thorn plover
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And doesn't use the proc. So you still have a free regrowth after too

sudden junco
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oh damn it interacts like that?

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that's pretty massive then

polar lichen
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damn... that's so many instant regrowths during convoke...

cunning parcel
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Oh btw purrformance I took your advice and dropped my ratio from 6:1 -> 2:1

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For rejuvs and regrow the

thorn plover
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👍

cunning parcel
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Got a rank 9 parse

sudden junco
cunning parcel
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wtf no

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😆

sudden junco
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oh lmao i looked at that message and thought that what it was

thorn plover
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No don't do that lol

shut barn
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What is that ratio change? I want a rank 9

thorn plover
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You should cast as many regrowths as rejuvs by end of boss is what were talking about

sudden junco
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ahhhhh makes so much more sense

thorn plover
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Regrowth is cheap to cast

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Tons of hps/mana spent

shut barn
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Ah, yea i need to get better at throwing out regrowths, my achilles heel

thorn plover
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Insane value

cerulean stratus
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l'ura finna be a 300 pull boss

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w overbuff

thorn plover
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I think more. Nerf Monday

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Long weekend blizz sleep

rain oyster
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do they have a long weekend?

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i dont think so or?

thorn plover
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Is good Friday not a thing in murica?

cerulean stratus
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r there any h/m necks in m+

thorn plover
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No

grand herald
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no

cerulean stratus
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wonderful

thorn plover
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PvP neck best

grand herald
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can just get pvp neck

cerulean stratus
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is that on hero track

grand herald
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yes

thorn plover
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Yes

fervent mica
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you have to win like ~7 bgs if you haven't done the chain at all

grand herald
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but you can do the bgs against bots

fervent mica
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~200master/30 haste neck

cerulean stratus
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yea i haven't played pvp at all

fervent mica
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its a quest chain from one of the guys in the weekly tent

graceful ermine
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but it depends on the company I guess

cerulean stratus
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and with what currency

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do you upgrade the neck

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conquest?

grand herald
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same as normal

cerulean stratus
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ah

idle lake
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is pvp neck worth going for if i have this

brittle pier
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Sim it but probably?

pure vale
brittle pier
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With my gear the pvp neck is stronger according to QE

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pvp neck also takes like an hour to get if you just slam 6x bot silvershard BGs so it's a minimal investment of time

idle lake
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i lowkey need conquest to buy a ring

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i still have adventurer lmao

thorn plover
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Why would you buy a ring

idle lake
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because ive done 50 dungeons and it hasnt dropped

thorn plover
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M+ has good ones

idle lake
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may as well kill 2 birds with 1 stone

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play pvp for neck and spend the currency on a champion ilvl ring

thorn plover
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Craft one with vet crests no spark

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246

idle lake
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how with no spark ?

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does it not always need one

thorn plover
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Not for that level

idle lake
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I see

thorn plover
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80 vet crests and mats are cheap af. Easiest haste mast ring til you get m+ one

cunning parcel
idle lake
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yeah i had no idea it was free

loud cradle
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am I bad or is mana a bit of an issue in raid

idle lake
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what does this ratio even mean

thorn plover
idle lake
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ahh ok

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i only do m+ i switch to balance for raid

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so nevermind

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vet crests is crafting into 233

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oh nvm

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forgot to change quality

whole horizon
thorn plover
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It's a you problem, not a druid problem lol

stable iron
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Convoke or Tree for Crown?

pure vale
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I am convinced prosperity over VI in raid now

pure vale
stable iron
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Thank god I hate tree

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Is Convoke just better in raid rn?

thorn plover
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Both are fine but convoke lines up really well on most fights

naive chasm
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at what point is it better to use mastery flask than haste flask if I have a lot of haste already and not much mastery?

thorn plover
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Sim it. QE will recommend what flask to use

grizzled seal
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Haters will tell you something else but there is no such thing as too much haste

thorn plover
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That too

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If you think you have too much haste, no you dont

naive chasm
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ok so I need simcraft addon to use qelive?

thorn plover
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Yes

proven phoenix
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haste good

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I need more haste too....

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too much mastery

idle lake
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i need more mastery less vers

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im geared like a pvp character

proven phoenix
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you never want to be anything like a pvper

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trust me

idle lake
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i know

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im like 1k haste 600 vers 500 mastery

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very suboptimal

proven phoenix
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thats not that bad

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vers is alright

viscid zenith
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Gimme the tune

proven phoenix
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what is the tune

viscid zenith
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Blizz said tuning today

proven phoenix
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I dont think this spec is getting any tuning

stable iron
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Don't love losing my HotS and managing both charges strains my brain

proven phoenix
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prosperity is good but so is VI

stable iron
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Yeah think I'll stick to VI

nova torrent
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the tune is the new angine de potrine - utzp

thorn plover
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Huh

stable iron
nova torrent
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Insane right I couldn’t help myself and went in blind to drum to vol 2

stable iron
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I'm an english prof and I played it for my freshman class and they were BAFFLED

nova torrent
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Hell ya

thorn plover
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No tuning for us

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Holy pally buffs

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No other healing changes

dense lantern
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Did they just hotfix refo prepull?

proven phoenix
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no

thorn plover
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How would they even do that

nimble halo
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VuhDo is fully working for Midnight so no need to replace it unless you want to.

dense lantern
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was working until 10m ago

silk ice
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Time to find a critter and taunt it to be in combat

edgy basalt
edgy basalt
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i noticed it as well

main timber
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You can't even get stacks anymore or what did they change?

edgy basalt
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big sad

edgy basalt
main timber
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Bizarre. We have had this for years

edgy basalt
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bastards

thorn plover
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What the fuck they did too

cursive pilot
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QE picks renown trinket, didnt that get nerf

gentle nova
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Lmfao

thorn plover
hardy canopy
cursive pilot
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just won locus heroic too so ig i run that w it

bright swift
thorn plover
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agreed

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ok im getting refo stacks again

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i changed talents and changed back

proven phoenix
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theres no wayu

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they did that

thorn plover
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and its working now

proven phoenix
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ok good stuff

thorn plover
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relogged, still working

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that was weird though

edgy basalt
thorn plover
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yea lfr

edgy basalt
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still didnt

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hmm

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Exiting raid to change talents relog and chang eback

hardy canopy
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try untalenting

edgy basalt
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Alright ty its fixed now

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after leaving raid and relogging

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and changing the talnets

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and the moment i press the second swiftmend I no longer have stacks

onyx trail
edgy basalt
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at beloren

thorn plover
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ya something super weird going on

potent juniper
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Should I craft chest I have a 5p at the moment

potent juniper
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Ok

thorn plover
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i pre stacked to 3, and then they disappeared

nocturne jackal
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the reforestation issue is happening to me too

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I came here to figure out wtf is happening

fervent mica
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is it bugged in combat too?

thorn plover
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seems fine in combat but these fights only last long enough for 1 refo

nocturne jackal
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i'll report back

thorn plover
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doesnt work in follower dungeons either

proven phoenix
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it would be really funny if this was a real change

cinder pike
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is it just me or can you not pre-Reforestation on the Midnight Falls fight?

proven phoenix
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I hope it is tbh

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fuck prepull reforestation 🙏

fervent mica
dense lantern
wise galleon
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fuck any type of prepull honest to god

graceful ermine
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Liquid plays rdruid -> immediate fix to 3 year old bug

proven phoenix
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wouldnt call it a bug

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but yeah thats kind of funny

nocturne jackal
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works in combat

thorn plover
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L change

main timber
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I don't know why that would be classified as a bug

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And if they were on the hunt for something then maybe we get Symbiotic Blooms working with Flourish instead of this

graceful ermine
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I could imagine the philosophy is “anything that prevents you from just immediately pulling a boss is bad” but also there’s tons of that stuff

proven phoenix
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I think its a completely fine change but a very weird use of resources considering everything else

main timber
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I mostly hate prepull shit too but the timing is weird

graceful ermine
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FWIW I agree with that philosophy, and think they should just implement a change. Anything that isn’t flagged as a raid buff is removed on pull period. No exceptions.

thorn plover
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so

limpid yacht
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always the rfw guys ruinning!

graceful ermine
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Idk why they keep having this problem of stuff slipping through. It seems (famous last words I guess when talking about a complex code base) like it should be quite simple to just white list the core raid buffs and auto remove everything else

severe shoal
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any1 else not getting refo stacks??

rain oyster
severe shoal
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fr

main timber
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Can't believe this

frigid stratus
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yikes

main timber
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Just fell to my knees in the middle of the store

limpid yacht
proven remnant
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Just cried in the middle of a Walmart

silk ice
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What makes rdruid so good in lura?

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Nick is blasting

graceful ermine
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Idk their reasoning but it could just be they don’t want to play the other Druid specs and need mark from somewhere

proven phoenix
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small group healing

graceful ermine
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Oh are they still playing moonkin?

proven phoenix
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but I also wouldnt say he's blasting if he's just matching disc and mw hps

graceful ermine
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Ohh they still have bear

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My bad

proven phoenix
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its literally just the fact that you need to heal 5 people that are holding crystals

silk ice
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Not a job for sheiluns? XD

rain oyster
silk ice
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O

thorn plover
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however they "fixed" this, its wildly in consistent

rain oyster
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its warri/dk atm

silk ice
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Oh they had a bear earlier

graceful ermine
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Yeah I thought I didn’t see bear when I checked in earlier but I only glanced

fervent mica
plain marsh
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It’s over

proven phoenix
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I cant believe they did this to us

rain oyster
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its such a weird change

thorn plover
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what an L change lol

proven phoenix
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I was eationg dinner and I lost my appetite looking at those notes

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I cant believe they've done this

cinder pike
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we need liquid to illustrate all the resto bugs to get them fixed, like the 12 rejuvs counting for 11 stacks bug:
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/druid-abundance-talent-at-11-stacks-despite-12-rejuvs/2121850

World of Warcraft Forums

When you have exactly 12 rejuvenations on allies and refresh one of them, the stack count for Abundance drops from 12 to 11. Continuing to refresh the same 12 rejuvenations keeps the stack count at 11. Steps to reproduce (all add-ons are disabled): Start a follower dungeon as a restoration druid healer. Select both Abundance and Germination i...

main timber
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Honestly I'm going to go as far as to say this is quite an inconvenience

thorn plover
#

how could you let this happen voulk

graceful ermine
#

Would you say your day has been irreparably damaged?

limpid yacht
gentle nova
#

I blame rwf

graceful ermine
#

We should boycott limit until they pledge to never run rdruid again

thorn plover
#

nick isnt even pre refoing

graceful ermine
#

It doesn’t matter

limpid yacht
#

he must have at some point

thorn plover
#

nvm i lied

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i went back 60 mins and he was

main timber
#

Tell him to go Wildstalker and to Flourish his Symbiotic Blooms

limpid yacht
#

that son of guy

nocturne jackal
#

we not going to be able to prehot in raid either

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no buffs until pull

limpid yacht
#

I just wanted to casually wg into sm into reju like every normal player before pull for luls

quiet wyvern
gentle nova
#

Bro how they hotfix something that has been in the game 5 years

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I dont get it

floral sage
#

is real ??

severe shoal
#

you can still have it for 1st pulls but wtf

cursive pilot
#

tree 1min into fight w vi

main timber
# floral sage

I dont even know what you are looking at there but also no

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Archon is meme site, go elsewhere

marsh prism
#

lol

dense lantern
thorn plover
marsh prism
#

lol

ionic ice
#

Noob question, I only recently started playing resto druid , does Symbiotic Bloom benefit from mastery and increase the healing of other hots?

gentle nova
#

It acts like any other hot yea

proven phoenix
#

blooms are the giga hot

spare sand
#

Just read the refo fix

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Wtf?

marsh prism
#

let go of your chains (mandatory)

languid flare
#

Small optimization fun detected

marsh prism
#

it was not fun

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let it die

dense lantern
#

seek help

graceful ermine
#

Stalling pulls for 30 seconds is definitely the most fun I’ve ever had in wow

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Love delaying pulling bosses

marsh prism
#

any major prog boss where ive had to do shit prepull is the closest ive ever come to genuuinely crashing out in this game

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and sometimes i did crash out about it

graceful ermine
#

But my optimization! More power = more fun! If I got a 5% healing increase for stabbing myself in the leg I’d rage if blizzard ever removed it

dense lantern
#

the only people that will complain about the change are the same people that use it to flex hc parses over those who didn't know about it

marsh prism
pulsar kettle
gentle nova
#

So why not fix every bug with the class

marsh prism
pulsar kettle
proven phoenix
pulsar kettle
#

Hows the fishing game btw

proven phoenix
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chat we're so close

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pls wish me luck

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my eyes are glazing over

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VORTEX PINNACLE BLACKROCK CAVERNS VORTEX PINNACLE THRONE OF THE TIDES

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its all I can think of

harsh quail
austere gyro
#

end time where your group cant kill the sylvanas ghoul

dry blade
#

we can no longer get stacks of reforestation pre fight?

proven phoenix
#

idk

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like all day

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lmfao

gentle nova
#

Nick is 30% mana and boss is 75%

proven phoenix
#

yes that is how early bosses work

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why are u conserving mana for p2 when you are dying at the end of p1

dense lantern
marsh prism
proven phoenix
#

I dont like follow the arrow because timewalking is brainless

dense lantern
#

fair

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but doing it in one day would make me insane

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glad to know you're doing fine

proven phoenix
#

I have the mental of a titan

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no one can upset me, nothing can tilt me

gentle nova
#

This boss looks so fun to heal

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Also gg spatial mandatory for that tranq lmaoo

wicked veldt
proven phoenix
#

pres is fun man

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its not so bad that its unplayable

wicked veldt
#

yeah...

proven phoenix
#

disc right now seems giga boring

marsh prism
#

ohh..i dont play this game for fun. so

proven phoenix
#

I had dpen playstyle

wicked veldt
#

disc is fun also imo

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dpen is just

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pen

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but with a target

marsh prism
#

zar is having the time of his life in his enclosure

wicked veldt
#

more healing is more better

robust badge
wicked veldt
#

sacrificed everything else

robust badge
#

i didnt realized you mained dh

marsh prism
#

bro

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thats where we found him

proven phoenix
#

I would rather just have giga dark reprimand

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like the amirdrassil days

robust badge
#

my guild wants me to alt priest again but shadow is so ass...

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its so unfun...

wicked veldt
#

log in eshay lad

proven phoenix
#

priest also has the problem of being literally straight outta tbc

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in terms of survivability and movement

marsh prism
#

log tf in easch

pastel dragon
#

Thats so lewd

wicked veldt
#

?

proven phoenix
#

lmfao

robust badge
#

its laud not lewd

marsh prism
#

this guy does not respect working women

robust badge
#

but with the australian accent

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i understand the mistake

wicked veldt
#

this is what i like about priest

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you have zero get out of jail free cards

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if you want to get anwyehre the same time as everyone else

graceful ermine
#

Nothing better than being packed around by evokers

wicked veldt
#

you have to leave first

marsh prism
wicked veldt
#

i am the fastest priest on oceanic frostmourne

robust badge
#

what about goblin jump or void elf teleport

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xippo the goblin priest

graceful ermine
#

Priest just need a palanquin

wicked veldt
#

straight up gobbin it bro

graceful ermine
#

And a fleet of evokers

marsh prism
#

xi po

robust badge
#

xi poo

wicked veldt
#

wtf

marsh prism
robust badge
#

typo...

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p and o are right beside eachother

wicked veldt
#

typoo

marsh prism
#

ok ive literally not even had my caffeine for the day yet and im already acting like this

wicked veldt
#

anyone got a pit key

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i need

robust badge
#

idk i will log in and check for you

wicked veldt
#

@ everyone show pits

robust badge
#

@marsh prism is there a water that stacks to 200

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like delicious dragon spittle

marsh prism
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erm im not sure hope it helps xx

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idts

dry belfry
#

the teas!!!

hasty blade
#

when playing apex and VI in raid, do you generally send swiftmend on your LB target to extend it?

dry belfry
#

these guys all stack to 200 and own very hard for mana

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might stack even higher

robust badge
#

ty for being useful swirl

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you should be orange name instead of nance

marsh prism
dry belfry
#

im a druid master actually

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orange name incoming very soon

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also please do not hate on nance

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we love them

robust badge
#

im gonna go vandalize nance's house

proven phoenix
#

can they make me orange man

robust badge
#

in the alliance district

robust badge
wicked veldt
robust badge
#

@marsh prism can you put stuff in this room dude

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it breaks my immersion

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its nothing like outside

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your house is in the middle of a forest!!!

zealous scarab
#

I need them to add lvl 10 already

marsh prism
wicked veldt
#

you know what. me too.

marsh prism
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I'm still there it's beautiful out

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it's chilly and the coffee is warm on hand. best city in the world baby

marsh prism
robust badge
marsh prism
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is how i read that

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just now

dry belfry
#

LMFAO

hasty blade
#

Question: If you're playing apex talents with VI do you send swiftmend on your lifebloom target to extend it?

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Wouldnt that limit the number of blooms

bright swift
#

blooms don't matter from low lifebloom

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you'll get blooms from photo or apex

hasty blade
#

Thanks

lunar steppe
#

for raid are you guys sending WG on cd?

marsh prism
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pretty much

zinc kernel
#

is there a huge obvious choice if choosing between Mythic Tier Legs or Mythic Heart of Wind from the vault?

marsh prism
fickle garden
#

mythic heart of wind is a myth

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does not exist

copper crag
#

does anyone know why swiftmend won't consume a germination rejuve and only eats the primary, even if it is stronger? Seems like bad design

autumn hull
#

Swiftmend eats hots in a certain order

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It's preordained by the Titans themselves

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Microsoft and Activision

copper crag
#

ha. is there a guide somewhere? i feel like i lose a lot of healing with my rotation not taking it into account

grand herald
#

just play VI

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ez pz

autumn hull
#

I would suggest just running VI

copper crag
#

even in M+?

grand herald
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I do

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but im also not pushing high yet

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you can also just eat a RG or WG

copper crag
#

Hm. What is considered "high"

pulsar kettle
#

high is relative.

grand herald
#

im just doing 13's

thorn plover
#

top rdruid is running VI

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in 18s/19s

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take that fwiw

pulsar kettle
#

I'm sure you can heal 18/19s with either talent

copper crag
#

I'll give it a go. thanks for the tip

proven phoenix
#

we are getting there.

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yes I play VI as well

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I dont like prosp in keys

bright swift
#

You're dumb

hardy canopy
#

lota plays prosperity

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he's a smart guy

bright swift
#

Same

formal fjord
proven phoenix
thorn plover
#

you running ms in keys?

proven phoenix
#

ya

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im ngl I dont know if its good or not

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my talents are complete vibe

pulsar kettle
proven phoenix
#

well sometimes I miss mage food

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and I need mana

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so I need to dps convoke

pulsar kettle
#

crazy

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truly passenger princess role atp glorp

proven phoenix
#

magisters is unironically kinda hard to heal tho

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tbh

#

like the last boss doesnt require a lot of hps but everyone is so spread

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you can never wg on that boss

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lethal damage but not high hps if that makes sense

pulsar kettle
#

u can wg just fine if you target the boss for it

proven phoenix
#

yeah thats a good shout but it still missed people sometimes

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like far soaks

pulsar kettle
#

tell em to play closer idk

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we have 2 melee and soaks are always close to boss

thorn plover
#

yeah i had to tell my guys to stand as close to the middle as possible

frozen prairie
drifting timber
#

So question: Am i trolling by taking Reforestation over Hamonious Blooming? I feel like the ToL procs really come in handy for burst healing in keys.

thorn plover
#

not really trolling, if it works for you, run it

drifting timber
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only doing 12's and going for 3k.

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maybe 3200

thorn plover
#

yeah play whatever feels good

crude nebula
#

Can anyone familiar with Aug evoker give me a breakdown of what exactly they’re doing in groups? I know this is the Druid disc

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But I just had one in my group and I swear the group felt insanely tanky

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I tried googling like a breakdown of what they did, and it just confused me more

#

Someone put it in like for dummies terms lol

pulsar kettle
#

Zephyr, bleed dispel, shifting sands buff (vers buff for dps after using empowered spells)

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prob a few other things I'm missing but yea aug op

proven phoenix
#

aug is legit like a key level and a half of survivability

#

its insane

pulsar kettle
#

prayge it gets gutted again after rwf

crude nebula
#

It felt like I was barely having to heal

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And I was unsure if it was the evoker or if it was just really good players

pulsar kettle
#

can be a bit of both

drifting timber
#

so the 3 stacks of harmony from hamonious blooming; is that just more mastery or?

thorn plover
#

means your heals hit your lb target for 2 stacks of mastery more

tacit trout
#

Is there any way to remove or make more transparent the debuffs on the bottom right corner of unit frames? It's hard for me to see current hp with how big they are.

thorn plover
#

what frames you using

tacit trout
#

default ui

thorn plover
#

should be able to make them smaller in edit mode

reef zenith
#

So, do we need to turnip pre pull in raid now for reforestation?

slow pasture
#

No

reef zenith
#

I probably could have put an /s on it…long term not having to rebuild 3 stacks between wipes will feel better. Having to adjust timings will suck though

thorn plover
#

yeah i dont like what that does to some of my timings

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lol

fossil coral
#

can you help me?

thorn plover
#

sim it

reef zenith
#

Yeah I can help - there’s several barbershops and transmog npcs in silvermoon and you can fix that appearance in no time >.<

soft dagger
#

with 4 apex talent. Is moving LB around to take advantage of frenzy bloom when consome sotf benificial or stick it to 1/2 person for the 3 stacks of LB. I feel like in some case moving it around and with the proc from sotf its a very big instant top up on people. I am talking about 12-14 key level here. Gear at 268 2 pcs tier set

soft dagger
#

i was in a discussion a guildmate and hes quite strick to keep LB on tank or on a squishy dps only, not moving it around. I though its very situational. Does anyone know what is the apex talent healing to group if LB is stacked 3 time and frenzy bloom is activated?

primal cargo
#

reached m9 with 209 ilvl i hope i can handle to 10

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this week affix 20% versa and cd red helps

thorn plover
#

the 5 bloom on a person is insane single target

primal cargo
#

i see it like small cd u can use it to heal a person fast , not costing much

thorn plover
soft dagger
#

ofc if you guildmate that funnel gear to you then its another story

soft dagger
primal cargo
#

how come world boss drops me agility 1h dagger for rogue while im in resto spec

summer sphinx
#

I'm looking to find some indepth information on the math involved in the numbers in WoW? It's really hard to reverse engineer these numbers. Wowhead has all the coefficients listed, but they don't seem to sync up in game.

sand spruce
#

Is there a reason rwf is choosing to run tree over convoke? Just curious cause i was under the assumption convoke seemed to generally be the better option

half timber
#

its just week 2 and ppl already clearing 20s

#

jesus

inner sonnet
#

asian realms just built different

half timber
#

yea these chinese are on another level

proven phoenix
#

twin sprouts is good

#

whats wrong with that

#

well

#

both can be true

half timber
#

whats that

wheat hawk
#

hey ive started healing resto after being a feral main forever, what trinkets should i be trying to get for m+

reef zenith
#

TLDR the big raid trinkets are really good, heart of wind is best farmable. Can cobble together below that

plain steeple
proven phoenix
#

u tell me chief

plain steeple
#

No idea in this regard. 🤷‍♂️

#

Do they Ever log keys?

proven phoenix
#

no clue

plain steeple
#

Ok they actually log a lot.
How do they have less hps output on a 19 than I have on a 12. garf

inner sonnet
#

less damage intake? idk

slow flint
plain steeple
#

Yeah I know that. I just hate to look at high key logs because that shows me I have to heal my ass off in lower keys.

clever cipher
#

DID THEY BUG FIX

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PRE TREE

marsh prism
#

yes

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and you know what

#

yeah it was a fucking bug

#

🪱

clever cipher
#

lmaoooooo true

#

don't have to waste 30s pre pull

thorn whale
glossy brook
#

Caster dps stonks rising in China...

thorn whale
#

All the good players are not touching keys rn

glossy brook
#

Propaganda trying to hold my caster dps homies down

#

The east is rising

thorn whale
#

Ik you are memeing, but honestly if we come back to this at the end of the season, and any of these current “high key pushers” are in the top 10, I’ll eat my words

glossy brook
#

(I have no horse in this race I panic spam regrowth on hotless targets with every gcd anyways)

low yoke
#

Hi guys,

I have my Resto druid, still 88, but my main spec healing is doing great.

One question though, should I just keep the same gear for a Doomkin OS to be able to do damage, or is it viable to also farm Guardian/Feral gear for a Cat OS that would also enable some tanking?

glossy brook
#

At max level you will likely be crafting a weapon unless you are mythic raiding,

#

The agility and intellect weapons are different crafts.

#

It's not that big a deal to craft an agility weapon after your intellect weapon, but it will put you behind the curve.

#

As well, you will need to change your loot spec on bosses that drop tank and feral trinkets in some cases

#

There is an opportunity cost but its doable.

soft dagger
glossy brook
#

You will also want two pairs of pants for agility/int enchant

forest abyss
#

I wish there was an enchant that was just a universal one for agi/str/int VerySadCat

glossy brook
#

Hoping it shows up.

glossy brook
#

I'm dogshit but I feel like even if I had 80percent rake uptime on every mob in yhe dungeon I'd be like 20k dps

#

It's so unfun

#

Only joy moment is catvoking

forest abyss
#

and hotw ff

distant birch
#

Im doing like 60k overall as disc priest but with a build that can barely heal a 10 tettleslul

#

I wish they made healer dps a lot higher tbh

#

but blizz hates that idea so wcyd

glossy brook
#

Think players hate

#

It

thorn whale
#

I just think it’s cope to say that your dps doesn’t matter

hearty coral
#

i mistimed a 14 by 1 seconds today

#

my dps definitely mattered

thorn whale
#

There is a big diff between doing 1 mil boss damage and 3 mill boss damage

hearty coral
#

i easily couldve done better to be able to time that key

glossy brook
#

Zero deaths Streeter?

thorn whale
#

That is not how you do that math

hearty coral
#

what does deaths have to do with it lol

thorn whale
#

Again you’re coping

hearty coral
#

iff i did like slightly better damage anywhere

#

we couldve timed

#

just like every other player couldve done something better to time it

distant birch
#

but it definitely doesnt matter enough for me to care at least

thorn whale
#

That’s different

glossy brook
distant birch
#

sure, but thats what matters for players

hardy junco
#

any macro to always have tank on cast on lifebloom? without needing to change the name for every dungeon?

hearty coral
#

we can do good single target

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and if theres 2 bosses or multiple

#

we can do a lot

#

with rake and rip spread

#

or on bosses with a damage amp

glossy brook
#

Like I still do it because I like to, and I like the good hotw catvoje moments

thorn whale
distant birch
thorn whale
#

I’m just saying that it stiller matters

#

You can easily shave off 20-30 seconds off a key from doing good ST prio damage

glossy brook
#

Ya it still matters in niche situations. I'll tell you straight in my anecdotal experience with my keys this season

thorn whale
#

And if you miss time a key by those seconds (which happened a lot in priory and flood last season)

glossy brook
#

My damage absolutely did not matter even 1 time

#

So far.

thorn whale
#

So far:)

glossy brook
#

Yes, so far.

#

I'll be straight again I do it because I like it, but I am not really mitigating against a 1percent chance it matters.

#

I'm just doing it for fun

#

And it isn't as fun as it once was.

#

Because it's impotent

thorn whale
#

I think there is no point in discussing it tho. You get my point so

glossy brook
#

Ye

#

Nothingburger discussion

#

Just sayin my feels.

kindred shell
#

Is there any cooldownmanager/buffmanager that would give a notification when swiftmend is off cooldown instead of usable? I mean now I get a sound warning if it's off cooldown and if global is not rolling and it annoys me

distant birch
#

Yeah im with you val tbh

#

Well, i wont be bother doing keys until they make some changes at least tho

#

I'm not playing to be 1% contribution in a 5man team

reef zenith
#

My complaint with damage is essentially it’s felt like no matter what I would do personally it’s never going to be worth more than 1 less dps death, or the dps sorting their damage spread to pad less

glossy brook
#

Again I do it because I like to, it's cool, it's fun, I'm just not doing it to mitigate against 1percent situations.

#

Not always anything to press anyways and the catvoke hotw are fun

#

But ye

reef zenith
#

So whilst yes it used to be fun to do it, largely it’s safer to put those globals into overcasting rejuve to have a better safety net

thorn whale
#

At some point you hit a key level where you just have to do both

#

Keep people alive and do damage

#

When I timed 20 priory it was with 10 seconds left, and it was the best run I had played ever

glossy brook
#

Ya I ain't there so, again I think it's acknowledged that your danage can matter,

#

Just people relaying their different experiences at this point I reckon.

#

Fine enough.

thorn whale
#

I don’t disagree that I don’t find it rewarding

glossy brook
#

Ye it sucks

#

And is sad

#

Going thru the motions type beat

thorn whale
#

But the issue is that if your damage actually start to matter a lot

glossy brook
#

No meat

thorn whale
#

You’ll get the opposite reaction from a large portion of the playerbase

#

“I just want to heal. I’m a healer”

reef zenith
glossy brook
thorn whale
#

I think the larger portion is the people that don’t want to deal damage

reef zenith
#

Like I said - that’s as someone who enjoys damage in healer toolkit…but I serve the key in front of me first and reality is I pug a lot and not at the cutting edge

glossy brook
#

I have never been in a key that demands I did damage ever, for instance.

#

So far.

#

(:

#

But again, your anecdotes are valid and interesting too, and I'm not disagreeing about your 20 key

thorn whale
#

That doesn’t stop you from wanting to do damage.

In the same way it doesn’t stop other people from telling you that you should do more damage in a key you don’t “have” to, if it was the “norm” that people should do a lot of damage

glossy brook
#

Ya.

tough portal
#

I have timed keys within the time saved from my damage every season across every ley level range I ever played

glossy brook
#

Nice I haven't.

tough portal
#

Yeah you just brick those

thorn whale
#

Think it’s just a balancing issue between making it rewarding and needed/vs not needed.

I think its importance is in a pretty fine state right now, but it could feel a bit more rewarding

inner sonnet
#

dps are being carried can they please just have them do their job properly

tough portal
#

Allergic to trying

inner sonnet
#

so we dont have to

tough portal
#

Good morning

thorn whale
#

Gumo face

glossy brook
#

I don't do it on purpose, sometimes it's not me etc.

#

I've definitely bricked a key because I was cat dpsing straight up, and low skilled

#

And I'll probably brick more.

#

So far have never saved a key by cat dpsing do far

#

Maybe 1 day, that'd be cool

plain steeple
#

Tbf the amount of keys where my dmg really matters are so few.
Either we have plenty time left or we wouldn’t stand a chance.
It’s maybe one in 100 keys that my dmg would be the difference between running intime or not.

reef zenith
plain steeple
#

And so far in Midnight I had none of those keys.

tough portal
#

"Risk" doesnt mean anything

#

Doing superfluous healing instead of trying to contribute more cuz you're afraid you'll fuck up is such a lame way to play and it's deliberately choosing not to try and play better

glossy brook
#

Yeah I'm not risk averse I've straight bricked keys with low skill cat weaving

reef zenith
#

Ok, I’ll be more direct - I can probably find some where we time if there wasn’t the unexpected death. Same as some without my damage we don’t time. But 4 other people could also have played differently too.

glossy brook
#

And I'll do it again

#

And sometimes I'll passenger princess 8 sec afk max in my weeklies

tough portal
#

Lol be more direct in what mate

#

It's the same point

inner sonnet
#

str8 up respect u mate

reef zenith
#

I used risk over just attributing to me since I’m 20% of the party. And my damage output is such a small amount of that 20%

glossy brook
#

I play for the brief second I've been top dps on boss pull before people ramp with hotw catvoke

glossy brook
#

But like that hasn't won me a key so wcyd

#

Yet.

onyx trail
#

I play for optimizing every gcd and improving to the best of my ability to contribute to my group's success

thorn whale
tough portal
#

I'm particularly a hater of the idea that optimizations of any kind or contributing more only "matters" if you're in title range keys, or HOF raiding, or whatever level

thorn whale
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Why are players allergic to locus of control

reef zenith
tough portal
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Idk what the sentence you typed means

glossy brook
tough portal
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But football is a great concept. Do you think a centreback should practice headers and like penalty kicks or is that just the attackers' job to score goals?

glossy brook
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I do it for fun and have bricked keys over it wcyd

reef zenith
thorn whale
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Yes you take more ownership

glossy brook
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Huhhh

tough portal
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Bro's waffling now

thorn whale
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And divert more of the outcome to you

tough portal
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Cheers mate happy saturday love the weekend

thorn whale
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It’s legit the same lol

reef zenith
reef zenith
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And you don’t trust a shitter dps to keep themselves alive because you’ve not raked everything yet etc

glossy brook
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reading m+ discussions makes me more depressed than the damage I do in keys

hybrid tangle
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Flaming DPS for a hypothetical death cuz you're too scared of how bad you are at the game to contribute more and you just deliberately play worse thinking it helps is crazy

reef zenith
thorn whale
# glossy brook Not being facetious, csn you explain what locus of control means in this context...
tough portal
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All key levels mate

onyx trail
tough portal
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I'm a democratic key leveler

thorn whale
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Quick TLDR: Believing things are in your control

onyx trail
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everything is in my control and I will personally exercise my free will to overcome any obstacles

thorn whale
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It’s a trait that high level athletes score high on

hybrid tangle
tough portal
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Yeah great point

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I had some great classmates and other friends when I was a kid

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And some of them never panned out cuz they didnt try

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Not like, didnt try to chase the career, but didnt try to do shit in the pitch

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And I think that haunts players throughout all levels. It's gotta be really hard on people that don't naturally behave like that when they come into the public eye and read criticism of their play and shit

sharp silo
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guys what is the go to: 2 charged of swiftment or the extention of the buffs talent?

glossy brook
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I like 2 charge in keys

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1 charge in raid but I think 2 charge is probably good there too

tough portal
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They change your decision making with Swiftmend a little so it's just vibes maybe

glossy brook
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I like 2 charge because consuming wild growth lets me get 6 rejuv

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And blanket my party fast

reef zenith
# tough portal Flaming DPS for a hypothetical death cuz you're too scared of how bad you are at...

https://raider.io/characters/us/moonrunner/Taylorswift?season=season-tww-3-cutoffs if this is you, then you were a key level behind me playing my shaman last season - https://raider.io/characters/eu/silvermoon/Parkin?season=season-tww-3-cutoffs. I don't think I need your psychoanalysis of whether I'm scared to dps. I'm saying at that key level it was far less important than the other holes in my game.

glossy brook
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That goes crazy

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I can't lie

tough portal
sharp silo
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thx

thorn whale
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You’ll take that as valid or?

slow smelt
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Damn m+ talk is rising cortisol in this channel

reef zenith
# thorn whale Okay then I’ll flame you for it?

I'm happy to take feedback and fair is fair if it's the same tone offered both ways. I don't believe I've been rude to you though and certainly haven't intended to be. I absolutely intended to be sharper with face since he came into the conversation and was a lot sharper towards me, so I replied in kind. I went and got receipts because what he said felt out of line.

tough portal
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That just isnt the flex you think it was
But idk what you think I said that was out of line, that you're playing worse cuz you're scared to fuck around and find out by trying to help more and play better?

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Ofc mate, I didnt sit there doing M+ every week for 3 months longer to hit 17s like you, shoot me I stopped in september and do other things with my time.

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Is 1/4 of your Rejuv casts sent into the nether wasting time on early refreshes helping more than a little more damage or

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Do you think that denotes that your overhealing is helping?

reef zenith
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I apologise though Donby, it was rude of me to behave that way in a public channel when there's better solutions to taking issue with one person - which I've taken instead.

tough portal
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He started shit

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There was shit

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Now he blocked me

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Crazy concept

glossy brook
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I don't even wanna fucking LOOK at what this thing would say about me is it wowanaktzer or whatever

tough portal
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Yeah wowanalyzer

slow smelt
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I mean it could be worse, deciding to block and live on is better

tough portal
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True, it's a holy weekend we must live on fr

glossy brook
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Me when I try to block some one but spam unhide their msgs and become more aware of them than ever before

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Wish disc would full hide them

cunning parcel
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On the lowkes heart of the wild on cooldown and moon fire while in person form

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Best of both worlds

slow smelt
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Well you would have to download the discord evil twin to hide them

distant birch
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Healer dps is completely dog ass atm tbh

onyx trail
cunning parcel
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Idk if it’s good but

glossy brook
slow smelt
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Mw monk dmg is so cool in m+

tough portal
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Healers do the same % of group overall every season for the last 5 years

onyx trail
tough portal
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The only exception was late DF with the broken Amirdrassil trinkets

onyx trail
glossy brook
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We'll get there.

cunning parcel
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Healer st feels good ape feels bad on the two I’ve played

tough portal
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Resto druid is just relatively undertuned rn but you still do 8-10% of ST/priority dps

onyx trail
distant birch