Right
#resto
sharp epoch
You dont heal in cat form cuz you cant do that
How does that make sense then with wildstalker?
Like I feel like am playing my resto so wrong T-T
tough portal
Wildstalker procs an extra heal off of your heals
And an extra dot off of your dots
These are separate
harsh quail
dont let yourself get baited by the wildstalker icon, I swear that is the number one reason for people thinking that cat is required to heal with that tree
sharp epoch
Wildstalker procs an extra heal off of your heals
So it’s not needed I switch to cat form?
gentle nova
🤣
gentle nova
Weakauras died for this
sharp epoch
dont let yourself get baited by the wildstalker icon, I swear that is the number...
Hahahah yh like I feel like I’m missing out on something
So essentially I only go cat do to some dmg when everything is fine?
tough portal
So it’s not needed I switch to cat form?
Yeah I said this 3 times in the last 20 mins, and our guides also outline that pretty clearly
carmine glen
designing a boss like that the tier when they kill WA is genuinely despicable lol whoevers on the design team is a sadist
sharp epoch
Yeah I said this 3 times in the last 20 mins, and our guides also outline that p...
I see where can I find those guides? C: thank u so much for ur time and help!!!
grizzled seal
We didn't know either
tough portal
designing a boss like that the tier when they kill WA is genuinely despicable lo...
They're communicating information for addon between players via chat channels/windows or whatever
Addons cant read the message but they can read that there is a message in a given chat channel
grizzled seal
They're communicating information for addon between players via chat channels/wi...
Add-ons cannot read chat channels anymore
tough portal
Right
grizzled seal
They are doing something else
tough portal
Did they hotfix that then recently?
grizzled seal
Nobody knows otherwise we'd have more stuff like this already
carmine glen
the workarounds the players are doing is impressive for sure
I just wish they either didnt kill WA or at least worked harder on the ingame replacements
gentle nova
@thorn plover prolly knows
grizzled seal
Well, if you think about this logically
Guilds designed tools to make encounters easier for them
Blizzard adds restrictions and says they don't want this anymore
What did they think would happen? Players would say "oh ok then I won't make things to make the game easier anymore"
carmine glen
it all makes perfect sense if you believe Blizzards goal was to make players suffer
theyre suffermaxing
grizzled seal
Surely nobody is this naive over the age of 12
silk ice
If the rwf had more money in it, they’d probably train an ai to read their screen to make computational weakauras again. Banning something useful just makes the gap between the rich and poor wider 
silk ice
I just wish they either didnt kill WA or at least worked harder on the ingame re...
Lmao, they still haven’t fixed the lifebloom pandemic alert on their cdm, since beta…
grizzled seal
If the rwf had more money in it, they’d probably train an ai to read their scree...
Yeah AI vision is getting popular these days
Probably going to be a lot cheaper in a few years
Looking forward to rwf with that
silk ice
Me too
Maybe then blizzard will give me my customizable ui back
And actually useful in game death meters
grizzled seal
Death meters are crazy
silk ice
Instead of ones that straight up lies to my face
grizzled seal
Have to wait a minute after pull to wait for a log to upload
gentle charm
okay I seriously think not taking harmonious blooming is a troll in m+ but I don't know what you could possibly drop for it
gentle charm
no
if main: follow arrow. If alt: do delve quests but don't turn in -> dungeon to 88 -> turn in delve quests
primal cargo
i do timewalking dungeons
gentle charm
yes
tough portal
Yes but limited. There's a cap on the amount of xp you can get from crafting profs, not sure exactly how much, maybe 600k exp?!
Gathering profs isnt good for farming exp
gentle charm
prey, timewalking, WQs
gloomy yarrow
Hiii,
Has anyone gotten the sound alert in Danders Frames to work with Lifebloom?
gentle charm
Hiii,
Has anyone gotten the sound alert in Danders Frames to work with Lifebloom...
look up that one guy's addon lifebloomtracker
gloomy yarrow
@gentle charm Ooh, oke!
gentle nova
Whats that mean
boreal karma
Just in time for the friday hotfix notes
resto buffs for sure right
tough portal
Whats that mean
Andale a aprender a hablar chino guey
gentle nova
No fala chino
tough portal
Ty I'm polyglot
primal cargo
how u go to timewalking raid and get that ragna quest for hc item
bright swift
Rumors are 3 weeks
rotund narwhal
can you have 2 emblishments one on weapon and one on chest?
vivid peak
yes
primal cargo
do u try to keep regrowth on 5 targers or 4 in m+
for wild growth ?
i mean symbiotic blooms
procs
lime grotto
Fellas anyone know an addon that shows ticks for convoke casts/tranq ticks?
snow umbra
Rumors are 3 weeks
Do you think monk gets gutted?
tough portal
No
snow umbra
The Sheiluns build has to get readjusted surely? Isn't it really low apm
neat patio
which hero talents offeres most healing keeper or windstalker ?
tough portal
Situational
minor void
remembering to /combatlog is so hard 😢
plain steeple
I meant that I didn’t understand your kynyjykyly shortcut.
solid apex
I want op apex
are they changing druid apex or something coming up for us on next patch ?
dry belfry
The Sheiluns build has to get readjusted surely? Isn't it really low apm
we pray for these
solid apex
any info or link for that ?
blissful goblet
do u try to keep regrowth on 5 targers or 4 in m+
I’m trying to put them on all 5
But I don’t know what’s optimal
dire raft
Hello Freinds. I found this discord through Google and I'm wondering if you guys have a good Resto guide. I'm currently using iceyveins recommendations and I'm ilvl 240, no add-ons, but I feel very weak on heals. Did a M0 and M+2 last night and REALLY struggled to keep the party up. In LFR I come in behind some dps on healing done.
hoary rivet
Hey guys im sorry if its been already answered, but is there any addon that i can have my spells on cursor? used to have a weakaura for that rip
tough portal
Hello Freinds. I found this discord through Google and I'm wondering if you guys...
If you're using the raid build recommended in icy-veins (or wowhead) in raid, and the m+ build in m+, then you arent getting bad numbers cuz of build.
Go over the gameplay sections on those guides and if you feel like you're doing what they say but still underperforming, you'll need to log your raid fights and link those to see what people can point out to you
thorn plover
<@1230258700418158707> prolly knows
Add-ons can communicate with other add-ons via a custom channel that doesn't actually show in chat. It's the same way the cd and kick trackers work. They're unreliable and break easy, but for something like the memory game it's dead simple, except if someone misclicks
graceful belfry
Hihi I was wondering what you guys think of ToL vs Convoke? Most guides tell me ToL, but I notice some logs showing Convoke
thorn plover
Same way the kick trackers break if you kick air
Same way RC loot Council works, your addon communicates with everyone else's to tell how you voted
tough portal
Add-ons can communicate with other add-ons via a custom channel that doesn't act...
Addons cant communicate in combat like that anymore
Kick trackers are just inferring from enemy spell cast interrupts
Not from one client telling another that it pressed interrupt
thorn plover
Ok go send an RC loot session in combat
Kick trackers was a bad example because it can't read spells that are private
This isn't reading any spells, just that you pushed a button. Same way you press bis or need or greed on rc
cyan minnow
why wouldn’t someone just make a kick tracker that sends a message when you press your kick button with a macro then ?
thorn plover
That's basically how they work. The one my group uses creates a custom macron when you install the addon
cyan minnow
surprised that’s not more popular
thorn plover
But if you miss the kick it still breaks. Same way you misclick what shape you have and it fucks the raid
gentle nova
do u mind telling me or posting the link for it ? what are the changes
The lb splash is raidwide now and only from the blooms
cyan minnow
why would it break?
if pressing kick is just sending a message like rc i don’t follow why that would require the kick to not be whiffed
thorn plover
It's same like pressing wrong button on RC loot Council
solid apex
The lb splash is raidwide now and only from the blooms
when is it gonna be live ?
thorn plover
Oh I meant to hit greed instead of need
cyan minnow
what message is it sending when you miss a kick i don’t get it
thorn whale
Question still stands tho - You don’t need to know if it’s a successful kick or not
Just if you pressed the button
thorn plover
Mm good point. I'll dig into our kick tracker and see what the difference is
Might have new kick tracker by this afternoon
dusk cipher
How good is the cruicble for resto? (raids + M+)
thorn plover
I think it's looking for something on enemy frame cast bars but it probably doesn't even need to
That or macros can't push the button if it's not base wow ui, is probably more likely
cyan minnow
yeah i thought the entire point of the api change was to break shit like smolderon and fyrakk macros
i thought rclc was only working “in combat” bc boss encounters have diff rules than trash encounters
i’ve never tried doing it while a boss is pulled lol
tough portal
What I read on the Lura thing, the macros are sending a regular text message in a regular text channel, addons arent communicating via addon chat.
They cant read the content of the messages, but they detect that there is a new message, so they prob have like a macro each for different channels
thorn plover
Interesting
tough portal
i thought rclc was only working “in combat” bc boss encounters have diff rules t...
Yeah I think what purrformance is saying isnt right
thorn plover
So you assign each kick person a different chat channel
And you have a kick tracker
cyan minnow
that sounds so lame
tough portal
What I read on the Lura thing, the macros are sending a regular text message in ...
This is speculation, ofc I dont think Liquid divulged how their addon works.
cyan minnow
they said they told blizzard how it works and blizzard said it’s kosher which if true is pretty lame
thorn plover
Yeah I think what purrformance is saying isnt right
I'm entirely speculating based on how our kick tracker or RC works tbh. Complete guess lol
But if that's true then kick tracker is stupid easy
Going to try this rn
lyric surge
Hey guys im sorry if its been already answered, but is there any addon that i ca...
ArcUI can do it as well as Cursor Cooldown Reloaded
thorn plover
ArcUI can do it as well as Cursor Cooldown Reloaded
I haven't looked in ArcUI settings for like a month til I built your refo incarn tracker yesterday. He's made a lot of improvements in there
lyric surge
yeah
lyric surge
there's still some annoying stuff.. like the custom bar I made for elder druid debuff tracking keeps uncentering itself, but it's kinda minor really
thorn whale
I’m also at a point where I’m happy about my UI, just unhappy about how my debuffs/private auras are showing together with bigwigs and Northern Sky
Ayijecdm is pretty good I think
severe shoal
any1 know how to get mythic aversian debuffs on grid2? had to switch last night back to danders just to see them
tough portal
ArcUI broke the whole not-shading-Swiftmend feature last week and it still doesnt work for me again
lyric surge
you should be able to disable private auras in one of those addons
subtle cobalt
Hey guys im sorry if its been already answered, but is there any addon that i ca...
You can do this with M33kauras (community version of weakauras from github -- google it and install manually) which is what I use. I also created one earlier with TellMeWhen if you want to stick to Curse addons. Note you are still restricted by bliz secrets, but I've got LB/SM/WG and Efflo when needed on mine, along with pandemic sounds for LB.
I think Purrformance's lifebloom tracker addon LifebloomAlert, and Hottracker addon also have cursor options for LB/rejuve counter (creator name pureformance on curse) which are nice if you don't want anything else.
I think there was also a CDM type addon (cursor cooldowns maybe???) but I haven't tried it to know if it's decent.
So...some options 🙂
severe shoal
thx
lyric surge
ArcUI broke the whole not-shading-Swiftmend feature last week and it still doesn...
seems to be working for me o_0
thorn plover
i get it breaking if you press kick with no target and it doesn’t go on cd
It's looking for a successful cast interrupt because otherwise if people spam click their macro, or doesn't have a target at all, it messes up the cooldown
tough portal
seems to be working for me o_0
Mine works for about 2s after I check and uncheck this again
And then it shades it
lyric surge
hm I've never touched that
tough portal
lyric surge
thorn plover
lyric surge
I have it like that and it's been fine -_-
cyan minnow
It's looking for a successful cast interrupt because otherwise if people spam cl...
ah makes sense
thorn plover
im trying the custom chat channel thing rn
tough portal
https://i.imgur.com/N1hpFmM.png
Yeah that works, ty
I had that spell usability setting working in the past
And it just broke
lyric surge
thorn whale
you should be able to disable private auras in one of those addons
Yeah idk I just can’t make it work 💀
wise galleon
I quickly went over rrlog and checked resto druid in voidspire and EVERYONE is running convoke. I get that top100 logs are not a good indicator of correct play but why is noone running tree?
thorn plover
convoke just lines up so nice
wise galleon
convoke just lines up so nice
Im changing a single node for this? Or is something else recc?
lyric surge
Yeah idk I just can’t make it work 💀
so your problem is that both ns and bigwigs are showing private auras?
thorn plover
you can just change tree to convoke
plush spoke
how do you guys heal the first pull on Seat? do u use different talents then swap them back?
thorn plover
how do you guys heal the first pull on Seat? do u use different talents then swa...
push heal buttons
plush spoke
so true
thorn plover
shift into bear form before chains cast finishes
and shift out immediately
full hots
tough pull for sure, but nothing special
wise galleon
And you guys all use some sort of northern sky thingy to time the convoke/tranq for fights?
thorn plover
tranq yes, convoke gets sent on cd more or less after the first one
wise galleon
okay very much thanks
thorn plover
i use mrt, lots are using ns
plush spoke
any world where u take Inner Peace instead of some other talent for seat?
median trellis
Hello fellow druids, i have a question regarding Nature's swiftness/ Convoke macro. lately its not working reliably sometimes it casts Nature's Swiftness and some times it doesn't although NS is not on CD anyone know what the issue is? i noticed this mainly happens in raid and i read somewhere this could be due to movement while casting, any feed back is appreciated.
#showtooltip Convoke the Spirits
/use 13
/cast [nochanneling] Nature's Swiftness
/cast Convoke the Spirits
/cqs
fervent mica
\jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjm- 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000522222
main timber
gentle nova
any world where u take Inner Peace instead of some other talent for seat?
Not sure why u would skip flourish
Its insanely strong
echo kraken
I'm sure this has been discussed: but much further back in the chat.
Is the recommendation right now to skip apex talents for raid? I see many of the top peformers are doing so
thorn whale
so your problem is that both ns and bigwigs are showing private auras?
I think so! But I feel like I have disabled it in Bigwigs. But then again it might be that both danders frames and NS are showing them
Idk man I’m blind
But I have no internet today so can’t spend time on fixing
thorn whale
Not sure why u would skip flourish
It’s m+
gentle nova
And?
thorn whale
You don’t need flourish for any healing ever
And you would take inner peace for DR
During certain mechanics
gentle nova
I woulndt, it gives me 8 second window of max hps
thorn whale
Not true that statement
What I said
But if I were to take a tranq talent
It would be IP most of the time
thorn whale
I woulndt, it gives me 8 second window of max hps
But you really don’t need those 8 seconds of max hps
gentle nova
You will
gentle nova
So you dont need dr either
echo kraken
discusses apex/no apex
Thanks, I did take a look just now.
The guide makes it sound like both are competitive, but an INSANE majority is opting to skip the apex talents in raid. It makes it seem like the difference is much more sizeable than the guide suggests
tough portal
Flourish does nothing in M+
main timber
Thanks, I did take a look just now.
The guide makes it sound like both are com...
It isn't sizeable and most RWF druids kept Apex
thorn plover
Thanks, I did take a look just now.
The guide makes it sound like both are com...
people see top logs and copy them. thats all it is
plush spoke
Not sure why u would skip flourish
yeah i asked about it for the DR
thorn plover
what voulk said. rwf logs are private
main timber
There are also some fights in particular that might be particularly good for Apex builds
Niko also plays Apex and would be one of the top logs every fight if public
echo kraken
Ah i see, makes sense. I was just looking at logs for top healing in VS
thorn plover
have you heard any new rumblings about apex in 12.0.5? i see its listed as RC now
echo kraken
FWIW: I tried both setups, but found I did better with the APEX talents. Just found it odd that so many skipped them lol
main timber
No but I also didn't re-test it. They could have hotfix changed it
I'll talk to a few people and see what the intent is there
echo kraken
have you heard any new rumblings about apex in 12.0.5? i see its listed as RC no...
Is the rumor mill that it will change?
main timber
We know Apex is changing, just the current new version is extremely OP
Particularly in M+ where we are already the best spec
echo kraken
We know Apex is changing, just the current new version is extremely OP
So maybe a walk-back from the anticipated changes?
It feels great in M+ right now
gentle nova
Why would it be bad that we are op in raid, would it make us better than evoker/mw/disc
echo kraken
Why would it be bad that we are op in raid, would it make us better than evoker/...
Im totally bias, but would love to be OP in both. I just dont think that blizzard would agree lol
main timber
It's fine to buff us in raid, but you need to work out the likelihood of them pushing a change that's an insane M+ buff
It just won't happen
frozen prairie
Particularly in M+ where we are already the best spec
we?
echo kraken
Im interested to see what that will be. What would be a reasonable way to buff us in raid WITHOUT also helping us in M+
dense lantern
I am
main timber
I'm not sure it's even close
frozen prairie
We are. Just i thought you main pres now
green basalt
Is there a dander setting someone can share with me that enables my frames to glow when there is a poison dispel, or is that not a thing?
frozen prairie
I play both specs, and Druid is my M+ spec
that's smart. I picked wrong class for alt
main timber
I kinda want to play a few other healing specs as alts this tier too but might run out of time
A lot of them look very fun
thorn plover
Is there a dander setting someone can share with me that enables my frames to gl...
should be on by default, look in the Debuffs section for "Highlight Dispellable"
fierce spire
guys, the difference between going for the ranged dps wise side of the tree versus cat side of the tree really big?
for m+
dense lantern
Depends who you ask and what you consider big
But it's significant yes
Not necessarily in the overall number
fierce spire
thanks @dense lantern i dont really like catweaving, but if it is significant thats what i am going to
tough portal
The difference in dps isnt very big
It's also a healing difference tho
narrow raven
@fierce spire U play with premade or pugs?
tough portal
And it's a aoe vs single target difference
fierce spire
pugs 100% of the time. tank is premade tho
narrow raven
If you play with pugs, don’t even try to do DPS on AoE—I stopped doing that at +12 keys. I only do DPS on bosses now.
tough portal
fierce spire
The difference in dps isnt very big
It's also a healing difference tho
how the healing is different?
time casting?
meager pasture
If you go for owl weaving I would recommend going for keeper of the grove as a tree you get insta cast Starfire every other regrowth cast
tough portal
Wildstalker does more healing KOTG does less healing
fierce spire
i understand cat weaving you keep doing damage while casting healing spells
main timber
Don't play keeper of the grove to improve your worse damage by a small amount
If you dont want to min max damage then play Wildstalker for the healing
fierce spire
thanks for the info 🙂
frozen prairie
Was watching some +10 keys log just to see DPS and saw this
fierce spire
wtf
main timber
Check the log, it's probably a moonkin
hushed sand
Is there a dander setting someone can share with me that enables my frames to gl...
I don't even display which dispel it is, and I use one color for all of them so it is very simple to know that is is something I need to dispel and not some shield or something. I use a thick, purple inset border. Check out my profile if you want. https://discord.com/channels/1443538945605636149/1487051654275661954
tough portal
Yeah it's just a quirk of combat log sometimes assigning a wrong spec
frozen prairie
ah yeah you are right face
main timber
ok but it's clearly a feral druid
frozen prairie
rshaman in the group
fierce spire
@main timber im coming from mistweaver and 50k dps overall is pretty normal. What is a ok number for a 260-265 resto druid?
frozen prairie
ye ye just saw composition
tough portal
ok but it's clearly a feral druid
Bro screenshot it and posted it
And had to find the rsham
I'm really worried for the new generation of resto druids
main timber
No wonder my DPS is bad, I'm not pressing Ravage
main timber
<@231240539750531072> im coming from mistweaver and 50k dps overall is pretty no...
Aim for 15-20k to start with
It's a bit awkward to give an overall number because your ST DPS is lower but also way more important than padding on 50 plants
tough portal
Yeah you arent gonna do 50k on this spec rn
fierce spire
not looking for 50k, just wanting to understand what is okish or a big me problem
narrow raven
@fierce spire this is my damage from maisa 15 🤣
fickle garden
guys hpal got some good arguing going on if youre bored
main timber
Are you trying to recruit people for your argument
rustic copper
Omw
fierce spire
It's a bit awkward to give an overall number because your ST DPS is lower but al...
word
main timber
Some of the regulars here are still banned in HoW sorry
graceful belfry
Do people try to regrowth on targets with regrowth at the end of a burn phase (when abundance drops below 12) to guarantee a few more crits with improved regrowth or is that fake?
rustic copper
Do people try to regrowth on targets with regrowth at the end of a burn phase (w...
You should be maximizing nature’s bounty not improved regrowth
steady sierra
Is there anyone I could bug for a log review? Struggling in raid and regrowths feel super weak, wondering if I'm doing something wrong
graceful belfry
Thanks Niko! Hard to gauge for me if the guaranteed crits won vs getting more Nature's bounty spread at the end of the burn
whole horizon
Is there anyone I could bug for a log review? Struggling in raid and regrowths f...
post them here, people will look at them
steady sierra
fickle garden
Some of the regulars here are still banned in HoW sorry
boreal monolith
Any suggestions on Stats? I only do keys. hitting the 15+ range and shits starting to crank, trying to minmax as much as I can.
I saw that Vick guide, but he was running like 31% Haste/40% Maste/Rest Vers, but the guide is a couple months old, so unsure if it still stands.
boreal monolith
yeah I just found out about the Rejuv/Sotf/bloom combo from the Vick video. Been wingin it until today. Excited to try it
boreal monolith
sim on qelive
Thank you. I didn't know there was sims for healers
boreal monolith
Is the community pretty split on Verd/Prosp? Or is there a defined better choice
vivid peak
druid is broken and getting nerfed
signal solar
No shot
rustic copper
Is echo still on beloren
main timber
druid is broken and getting nerfed
gentle nova
My guess its cause its profile is consistent throughout the fight and the damage intake seems to be like that, druid can pull 200k hps consistently and has no high peaks or lows
Not sure if mw is like that also
main timber
Aren't you split into small groups for some of it?
rustic copper
Wildstalker?
gentle nova
Also that yeah, its half half
main timber
Basically a Druid dream
meager pasture
Thanks! #roastme https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:FAg274WTkdZz31vq?fight=l...
From what I read here, but I might be mistaken, you want to swiftmend regrowth before convoke instead of rejuv for more heals during the convoke
signal solar
Are they playing WS on last boss?
whole horizon
you are indeed mistaken
sudden rover
can someone explain what the row "score" mean pls? sicne I did a 100 how can I be only 11867
i'm not a pro at understanding logs
versed fiber
11867 people did it before you
sudden rover
oh it's only a race thing, like I did it way later
proven phoenix
Aren't you split into small groups for some of it?
I think Druid is good for add healing too
main timber
I think Druid is good for add healing too
How long do they stay up? I could see that 100% so long as they dont get healed in two Sheiluns
proven phoenix
I’m not sure tbh I can’t tell if it’s relevant healing or not
whole horizon
Thanks! #roastme https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/a:FAg274WTkdZz31vq?fight=l...
you did a good job playing around abundance and maintaining high stacks throughout. biggest areas to improve - make sure you Convoke in Refo and try to line them up, and make sure WG is out before every Convoke. you had lower WG cpm overall but Vorasius doesn't require healing every second of the fight so that's normal. you did have about 6 potential SM casts missed, so pressing that on CD should net you more time to do other things.
tranq ramps look fine, try to bring your LB uptime from 93% to 99%
whole horizon
ah yes, the infamous raid team made entirely of devs and other blizz testers
severe shoal
not sure they could even clear normal LOL
steady sierra
you did a good job playing around abundance and maintaining high stacks througho...
Thanks, I really apppreciate the feedback! Any tips on improving my regrowth output? I've tried comparing to other logs but can't figure out what I'm doing wrong
gentle nova
The mechanic without weakaura is fine you just need 5 people to communicate 5 symbols and positions to other 5 people in 5 seconds
steady sierra
From what I read here, but I might be mistaken, you want to swiftmend regrowth b...
Thanks! I'll try to do that in the future
rustic copper
From what I read here, but I might be mistaken, you want to swiftmend regrowth b...
Do not leak my tech
rustic copper
The mechanic without weakaura is fine you just need 5 people to communicate 5 sy...
Everyone streams their screen
And that’s how you do the mechanic
whole horizon
Thanks! I'll try to do that in the future
ignore that person
i have no clue what theyre talking about. who advised you ramp with Regrowth instead of Rejuv? are you a bot @meager pasture ?
gentle nova
Everyone streams their screen
2nd monitor mandatory
whole horizon
i could see the added regrowths providing some NB cleave during NS Convoke but thats not worth wasting SotF
rustic copper
i could see the added regrowths providing some NB cleave during NS Convoke but t...
What’s your source on that
meager pasture
i have no clue what theyre talking about. who advised you ramp with Regrowth ins...
As I said I might be mistaken but someone recommended it here and I mostly try to apply it now.
whole horizon
What’s your source on that
my source on it being bad?
missing uptime on 3x emp RJ and the reduced time with high Abundance outweighing 20% cleave healing on ~3 NS Regrowths? i don't think it's close, i also haven't seen anyone mention what he's talking about.
feel free to pipe up if i'm wrong
rustic copper
I think if the sotf rg does relevant healing too it can be better
steady sierra
Would that help with overall regrowth numbers? Comparing to other logs I have similar casts # but it's doing half the healing
lavish sage
I think if the sotf rg does relevant healing too it can be better
why is rdruid brought for Lura
whole horizon
Would that help with overall regrowth numbers? Comparing to other logs I have si...
it won't. i'm unsure about the merits of what they're suggesting, and i haven't seen it posted about here before.
it's also not solving any problem for you and so it's poor advice
rustic copper
why is rdruid brought for Lura
It’s op in 10 man
naive chasm
Presumably bloodfeather chestguard is essentially as good as maledict vest right? their stats vary by 3 in haste/mastery distribution at heroic 6/6, can't be much more at mythic 6/6
I find it a bit odd that it isn't stated on any bis list that they are essentially equivalent
blissful lion
are there any macros i should be running specific to resto?
blissful lion
are there any macros i should be running specific to resto?
PM answers if possible
thorn plover
go to the macros section on wowhead guide
nova root
what second embellishment do i use if i got myth track staff from vault?
peak charm
We should have 6 sparks right ? Cuz I have 6 .. 4 from crafted 2h , and 2 in my inventory
tough portal
Yes
rustic copper
I find it a bit odd that it isn't stated on any bis list that they are essential...
Bis lists are either useless or don’t actually include the bis items
Most people should be crafting a chest this week because they didn’t get either of those 2 items from vault
And it’s not bis unless it’s leech
dry valve
Most people should be crafting a chest this week because they didn’t get either ...
My reaction with my crafted waist: 
quiet wyvern
and people are still falling for low tier crafts
dry valve
TORTY TRICKED ME
inner sonnet
and people are still falling for low tier crafts
fuck u ur not my dad
dry valve
ICY VEINS YOURE DONE
bright swift
icy veins is Voulk too btw
quiet wyvern
true
gentle nova
Waist
thorn whale
Belt is fine to craft too
gentle nova
🤣
thorn whale
If you sent HC crests into your chest 
grizzled kayak
is omni cd back working?
gentle nova
Gpt bro
narrow raven
Not that bad for playing only with pugs. Thanks for all the tips, coming back to the game after a 2-year break was a little rough.
dry valve
Not that bad for playing only with pugs. Thanks for all the tips, coming back to...
I see you’re not playing with ret paladins
Good job
rustic copper
Belt is fine to craft too
It’s not
If you didnt loot a myth chest from your vault and you didn’t craft a myth chest
You’re fucked
Make a new character and start over
dry valve
Perma behind
gentle nova
If you didnt loot a myth chest from your vault and you didn’t craft a myth chest
Next craft shoulders?
rustic copper
Next craft shoulders?
Could be
dry valve
I’ll just level my prevoker instead 
thorn whale
Make a new character and start over
Alrighty calm down chief
steady lily
what talents are you guys using for 10 plus keys
silk ice
Prevokers are benched for relevant bosses
rdruid not even used for buff, their tank is a druid
thorn whale
Mattiu doesn’t even play the game
silk ice
why are you so low
gentle nova
Mattiu doesn’t even play the game
But i crafted chest
silk ice
why? busy making educational content on your twitter?
gentle nova
How many seconds off wg do you waste
thorn whale
2,57
rustic copper
Imagine wearing 4p
thorn whale
Fk if I know
gentle nova
Its in wowanal
thorn whale
Imagine wearing 4p
Imagine private logging
gentle nova
Imagine private logging
thorn whale
Its in wowanal
I don’t have internet on my pc today and I’m not checking that on phone
bright swift
HAHA
gentle nova
Priv logging is so cringe
gentle nova
Bro wtf
thorn whale
Yeah that is a little high huh
gentle nova
Yeah get to 0
blissful lion
do i add the "#showtooltip" to the macro?
thorn whale
Im crine
tough portal
What macro bro
uneven sparrow
are the echo druids running tree instead of convoke?
blissful lion
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,help] Rejuvenation;
tough portal
Idk, sure, do you wanna see the tooltip if you hover it?
eternal bough
ello guys in dender frame i can't see bleed or debuffs in general even some defensives
vivid owl
what do you guys use in delves? do you go dps with tank or heal valeera, or stay resto with tank/dps valeera?
brave timber
hey, i am setting up my keybinds with clique and now im having trouble bind rejuv to left mouse button and also keeping the target behavior. Is this even possible after the addon changes in midnight?
primal cargo
do u guys think i can do m10 with low gear and focus on healing not doing dps it will not be problem with current m10 tuning right ?
pulsar kettle
do u guys think i can do m10 with low gear and focus on healing not doing dps it...
yes youll be fine
your dps in 10s is completely irrelevant, unless your dps are quite literally sleeping at the wheel.
brave timber
i see, but can i do it without using this out-of-combat flag? does not need to be on clique, if there is other addon that makes this possible ill take a look
silk ice
i see, but can i do it without using this out-of-combat flag? does not need to b...
if you want left click to never target, then remove this default bind
brave timber
if you want left click to never target, then remove this default bind
right now i have both active
but the target does not work
silk ice
do you want left click to target or not target lol
you can't have it do both
if you tick out of combat, you will target when out of combat and cast rejuv if in combat
inner sonnet
your dps in 10s is completely irrelevant, unless your dps are quite literally sl...
wdym is this not the standard config of a dps player
brave timber
thats my initial question... i want to cast rejuv and target
in the past was possible
but im seeing that now is not anymore
silk ice
do you want to both target and rejuv?
then write a macro /target [@mouseover] /cast rejuv and bind that to clique instead
brave timber
then write a macro /target [@mouseover] /cast rejuv and bind that to clique inst...
nice, it worked
thx a lot
tall tangle
what's the haste % breakpoint?
grand herald
Dont exist
tribal sorrel
In a raid context i know i can have 2 rejuvs up per target but do i want more people rejuved or more rejuvs on people
thorn plover
what's the haste % breakpoint?
there hasnt been breakpoints in the game for some time
spark river
In a raid context i know i can have 2 rejuvs up per target but do i want more pe...
more people rejuved
tribal sorrel
I feel like i understand the concept of resto druid and the underlying logic i am just failing to execute it especially in a raid context where the number of people need healing exceeds the numbers of rejuvs i can throw out and that wild growths can cover
Feels like I’m missing something but i can’t get what it is
thorn plover
you dont need to rejuv everyone
dense lantern
I feel like i understand the concept of resto druid and the underlying logic i a...
You're not expected to have hots on everyone
Abundance still buffs your regrowths
Some people will be healed by your hots, others will be healed by regrowths, others by a combination of both
wide rose
isnt there an upper limit to how many rejuvs you can do before the first ones you applied will fall off anyway even with a swiftmend
tribal sorrel
isnt there an upper limit to how many rejuvs you can do before the first ones yo...
I mean it lasts 18s so you can only do like 12
wide rose
yea that's what i meant
thorn plover
not true
tribal sorrel
Before the first one falls off
fair nebula
how good is the crucible trinket for resto druids?
rapid halo
Abundance only stacks to 12, I think after that its just always better to cast regrowth
tribal sorrel
I see
thorn plover
nothing wrong with getting more rejuvs than 12 out
especially going into a big damage event
gives you longer to regrowth spam
tough portal
I mean it lasts 18s so you can only do like 12
It lasts up to 23s and you have haste, Swiftmend that will apply 3 in 2 gcds, potentially extend some
wide rose
situationally you might want to apply a fuck ton beyond 12 but it's not the common scenario tldr?
tough portal
And maybe something like Convoke as well
tribal sorrel
It lasts up to 23s and you have haste, Swiftmend that will apply 3 in 2 gcds, po...
Ah i forgot about that
tough portal
situationally you might want to apply a fuck ton beyond 12 but it's not the comm...
Yes typically in mythic prog you'll find bigger spikes of damage so you can and maybe should ramp more than 12 for those (altho Regrowth itself also has a 'ramping' component now).
This is more mana consuming tho
rapid halo
Idk, casting abundance capped rejuvs instead of free regrowth seems like a great way to go oom
tribal sorrel
Idk, casting abundance capped rejuvs instead of free regrowth seems like a great...
I think that’s kind of what I’ve been doing wrong
Because my mind set is still on the more rejuvs the better
wide rose
new to the game question, when doing damage as resto druid is it normal that after 3-4 gcds i run out of stamina, and i'm forced to wrath / moonfire for 1-2 gcd, then hit cat form again. thats what ive had to do until now, just entering low m+.
the damage rotation seems simble but the forced form switch is confusing me i feel like i'm missing something
it feels so clunky and weird to do 3-4 gcds and now this form is useless for 1-2 gcds. but its like the second class i ever play in wow so i have no context
thorn plover
new to the game question, when doing damage as resto druid is it normal that aft...
read the dps pins
wide rose
i read through icy veins, the forced form switch to keep rolling my gcd still confused me tldr
thanks for the post
tough portal
Resto doesnt have a full fledged suite of effects to keep up energy and generate extra dps resources
Since it isnt feral
You just do other things in between
thorn plover
face did you see what vitalitie is playing in keys
tribal sorrel
You just do other things in between
Like more rejuvs?
wide rose
gotcha i guess i can like, rake a few times then go back to applying more rejuvs
sinful summit
I miss latinatacoblast
thorn plover
face did you see what vitalitie is playing in keys
wide rose
i'm getting the hang of healing for the most part, obviously low keys so far. but i barely dps to keep my focus stack on healing, and i have no idea how much dps people expect out of me. i apply rake when things feel safe enough
and convoke on cd when i dont need the heal burst elsewhere
tough portal
face did you see what vitalitie is playing in keys
Idk who vitalitie is bro
What am I looking at
thorn plover
look at the spec and the dps lol
waxen ingot
Not one druid in rfw is playing convoke
pulsar kettle
sick voidling damage
waxen ingot
surely they know know better
pulsar kettle
hotw to starfall on voidling pulls and not frenzy the voidcaller is certainly a choice
tough portal
look at the spec and the dps lol
Oh yeah the chinese also love sunfire
thorn whale
Who is vitalitie
gentle nova
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rDbh4ACWxLp6XwMN?fight=69&type=summary&sour...
80k hps required for bosses on a 18
rapid halo
Not one druid in rfw is playing convoke
Havent seen any Druids in on world first kills . . .
gentle nova
M+ is so bad
waxen ingot
pulling last boss
nova torrent
are we still using the default WS M+ build on voulks wowhead page?
waxen ingot
Name them
I mean there r druids in all top 3 guilds
idk
echo and method have 2 in fact
rapid halo
On the kills?
pulsar kettle
lofty zinc
rapid halo
Do we care what happens in meme splits?
minor crest
Yes, they are splitting last boss prog
tough portal
Yes, they are splitting last boss prog
It's crazy how fast new people come into chat and paint themselves like this innit
waxen ingot
Im not sure is tree used cause its actually better hps
or do they like moving rgs on this boss
mental shell
dumb question but can you aim convoke at a certain party member because i cant get mine to work that wayy its just random
proven phoenix
it looks completely unplayable
waxen ingot
it looks completely unplayable
Im getting completely shit on in my guild for using convoke
proven phoenix
well convoke is good lol
its just that in this particular case I dont see how its playable with convoke
waxen ingot
and i cant argue them very much since 5 people are using tree in rfw
cerulean stratus
waxen ingot
Yeah well we willnever know what would they play in race
on other bosses
since they didnt u se a druid
waxen ingot
actually true ye
spark river
all tree
whole horizon
why is your guild concerned with RWF players? are they RWF capable?
are they even top 200?
thorn plover
they put way less thought into builds than you think
spark river
that doesnt mean that they build is bad lmao
thorn plover
theyre just good
spark river
it just means people cant get the most out of it
fallen compass
Just looking at them without knowing why is very unwise.
whole horizon
the players in RWF are the most competitive. they're doing things for competition reasons, something your guild is not constrained by at all.
we have the time and knowledge to know better
drifting timber
What’s the play when I incarnation procs right before convoke? Wait then convoke?
fervent mica
Tree was also considered better going into the season but just hasn't really lived up to that
whole horizon
your guild telling you to run tree just because Rycn runs tree is troll af if that's their only basis
fervent mica
What’s the play when I incarnation procs right before convoke? Wait then convoke...
You want to convoke in tree every time
drifting timber
Oh nice, I’ve been doing that then lol
waxen ingot
I mean i get that, i also dont see why would they use something worse :p and i dont buy the ( they dont care about builds argument)
drifting timber
Does it buff convoke along with NS?
whole horizon
its not worse though, tree is very good
fervent mica
Does it buff convoke along with NS?
Yuh
drifting timber
Sweet ty
pastel dragon
does Harmonious blooming (or mastery stacks in general) cause life bloom's blooms to also heal for more?
bright swift
mastery stacks increase all healing (from your kit)
pastel dragon
but only healing that target with the stacks recieves?
bright swift
yes but it still cleaves with apex
pastel dragon
ok sick
edgy nebula
hey friends wondering if there's a solution to a problem i am unable to find myself. When i'm targeting an enemy and cast WG and my target dies it fails to go off, any work around besides making a macro to just self cast it each time?
tough portal
Casting on enemy is very useful tho
edgy nebula
ya i just have a habit of getting rip off from cat form and then pressing WG, so i often still have the enemy targeted
tough portal
Get in a habit of mouseover on a target for it, it's important cuz cleave range
Off enemy is great until you have 3 casters all at max range
Might wanna cast off yourself or them depending on positioning
edgy nebula
im not against casting it on the target, just was getting annoyed at the cast cancelling last night a few times and was wondering if there was an easy solution
sounds like i just gotta play around it, all good
autumn hull
Do higher keys
tough portal
Yeah it's annoying when you just wanna cast it fast at the end of a pull
tough portal
Do higher keys
Pipe down lil gup
edgy nebula
mfw 12s arent high enough this season xdd
tribal sorrel
Wow didn't know this was <#121880917579923458> mb
It’s only feral when everyone has their cat as their pfp
autumn hull
Not trying to criticise lol but if your issue is with mobs dying and you don't actually need to look at their hp before you send a heal then it's probably not enough of a challenge for you yet
thorn whale
I mean SURELY he knows better than anyone here no
You’d be surprised by the Logic Pro players apply at times
thorn whale
Not saying you are either
waxen ingot
this is the only game i played where people hate what best players in the world do
to this extend
tough portal
Not trying to criticise lol but if your issue is with mobs dying and you don't a...
Just unnecessary, it's not "your issue" just something that happens and they wanted to know if there was a workaround
Why the need to dunk about challenges and key levels man
thorn whale
You don’t think there are 1.000 twitch chatters flaming builds in every league game?
waxen ingot
You don’t think there are 1.000 twitch chatters flaming builds in every league g...
the diff is twitch chatter r silver at best
and here people are what you would consider "High elo" if you were to rank resto druid as such
now im not good enaugh to know who is more correct so i wont comment
but the fact that its SOO flamed to referance best players is very wierd to me
thorn whale
I would say mostly the comparison would be that the people in here are onetricks and the RWF players are more diverse
waxen ingot
expectialy in a knowlage check game where the best guy has legit people that have a job to help him and test this kind of stuff
autumn hull
Why the need to dunk about challenges and key levels man
I'm not dunking on anything face, that's what I'm trying to say.. it's like if u are coming into feral asking if there's a workaround for mobs dying before u can get ramping as ws in keys
proven remnant
someone pass the popcorn lmao
tough portal
Not at all the same thing
tough portal
but the fact that its SOO flamed to referance best players is very wierd to me
I think it starts from flaming people that use someone's skill or performance as the only justification for what they're claiming just cuz they don't really understand it either
But yeah it turns too inflammed very fast
edgy nebula
Just unnecessary, it's not "your issue" just something that happens and they wan...
i appreciate the words, i got my answer ty. luckily i can read thru the responses with below average helpful info/opinions and find the answers i'm looking for ❤️
waxen ingot
I think it starts from flaming people that use someone's skill or performance as...
Now call me wrong all u want, but i dont think there is much skill in this game
its very knowlage based
tough portal
Yeah you're wrong
proven remnant
wow, thats a great point. since we know everything we have the skill to properly execute it, genius 
waxen ingot
there is skill, its a way lesser part of being the better player than knowing more
tough portal
Havent we had Method legit a full lap behind Echo and Liquid for the last idk 6 raid races despite being, for all intents and purposes, equally invested into providing resources and solutions to the raid team, as well as the raid hours needed to compete?
Even within the winning rosters
proven remnant
taking a break this tier? @gentle nova
proven phoenix
the further down u go the less player skill matters and prep/knowledge matters way moer
because output is just not relevant
tough portal
The ability to perform what you know under heavy cognitive stress is skill
waxen ingot
Havent we had Method legit a full lap behind Echo and Liquid for the last idk 6 ...
And all of it is not a skill check but a knowlage check
liquid player know where to stand, what person to click, when to hold when not to hold
proven phoenix
the game is also very easy to brute force as u keep going down in ranks
tough portal
You just dont wanna call certain skills skills lol
waxen ingot
put in the same knowlage into whole method team
and they will do almost the same as liquid
pulsar kettle
certainly a take of all time
tough portal
I wish I could be surprised at this
Bless up no flame today is sanctified day
Easter in 2 days we are living loving laughing fr
waxen ingot
But face u cant disagree with the fact that if someone tells u what to do, and in this scenario he tells u a thing that 100% correct
it will take you such little time to implement it
tough portal
No I can fully disagree
I think your take is completely idiotic
I disagree brother
Big disagree
LIVING LOVING LAUGHING
proven phoenix
damn we just be callin anything skill these days
im skilled at flying to the raid too
waxen ingot
I mean i dont think it takes alot skill to play this game at the top level, its very easy in fact
primal cargo
resto or balance loot spec for trinkets?
pulsar kettle
love when top 1% players call the game easy
proven phoenix
the game is just easily brute forcable
time simply trumps everything else
the worst players u know have high end achievements because they can just play infinite hours
pulsar kettle
plenty of guilds will never be able to brute force CE
infact the vast majority wont
proven phoenix
I think plenty of guilds already brute force CE
pulsar kettle
saw that plenty with the 1k+ fyrakk pull streams
versed grotto
HEy random question in this converasion but what would the 2nd item to craft be
tough portal
I think plenty of guilds already brute force CE
Are we ignoring that 95% of CE guilds play the final bosses multiple nerfs after RWF?
pulsar kettle
15s are piss keys but the majority of the playerbase will never get past resi 12 bless up
waxen ingot
plenty of guilds will never be able to brute force CE
It takes skill to use your keyboard and mouse at a top level, but if you take a person that already has those skill developed
wow would be a very easy game for them
proven phoenix
Are we ignoring that 95% of CE guilds play the final bosses multiple nerfs after...
yes that is literally my point
lol
tough portal
But they're not achieving the same thing
proven phoenix
at a certain point you dont need any output you dont need good play
you simply
exist
tough portal
Those 95% could not brute force whatever Liquid does
proven phoenix
yes obviously not, the game is easy because they make it easy
waxen ingot
my argument is u cant "Knowlage check" a AIMING 1v1 in csgo
but zou knowlage check everything in wow
pulsar kettle
go "brute force" pug heroic cosmos rn and tell me those players can "exist" there way to aotc
proven phoenix
go "brute force" pug heroic cosmos rn and tell me those players can "exist" ther...
this group is going to kill heroic luura
if they havent already
waxen ingot
The game is a massive knowlage check
Much less than wow is
bright swift
this group is going to kill heroic luura
who is this lol
proven phoenix
but they will still get the same achievement we did
waxen ingot
there is knowlage checks in csgo too
waxen ingot
but there is mechancial skill far beyond wow
pulsar kettle
these people objectively suck ass
compared to you, yes
tough portal
But skill and MECHANICAL skill are different things to be claiming
If you're just talking about finger dexterity and quick twitch reaction
Sure
Limiting "skill" to that, you can say wahtever you want
thorn plover
The game is a massive knowlage check
🤣
tough portal
I was under a different impression
waxen ingot
U can clasify knowing something as being skillfull at it
tough portal
Like I said before, you just dont wanna call a bunch of skills that go into what they do "skills"
For reasons
waxen ingot
but in this context we are obv not saying SKILL = KNOWING
tough portal
Just to have an argument
tough portal
I wish I was ignorant of this entire conversation
I wanna mindfully ignore all of it now
thorn plover
How I feel about 90% of the convos in here tbh
thorn plover
Can't help myself tho
tough portal
Happy good friday
proven phoenix
I dont think I can ever be convinced that wow is harder than like a moba or an fps game at similar levels in both
90% of this game is just preparing before u even start a fight
bright swift
8am to 6pm gaming
tough dagger
anyone know if this thing from timewalking is any good?
waxen ingot
I dont think I can ever be convinced that wow is harder than like a moba or an f...
I dont see why is it hard to just accpet that
pulsar kettle
anyone know if this thing from timewalking is any good?
maybe/possible, upgrade it and go do a heroic boss rq
log it
proven phoenix
rustic copper
We killed beloren twice in splits
proven phoenix
yeah man good luck with that
gentle nova
Rwf have been playing wow for the last 12 days straight for 10+ hours
You genuinely dont think your guild could be a top wow guild if you invested the same time
?
dense lantern
waxen ingot
People arguing skill here is like saying someone solved a math problem faster than they did cause he knows how to hold a pencil better than they can 
gentle nova
The key holder is a healer
thorn plover
Not even close
fluid compass
there are chains in seat?
primal cargo
balance or resto
dense lantern
there are chains in seat?
first pull
primal cargo
m+
oak garnet
Depends on what drops you want. I go as feral sometimes
dense lantern
but i call them like this
fluid compass
u ca. break those?1?!?
rustic copper
Most are guardian or feral
dense lantern
u ca. break those?1?!?
shapeshift....
tribal forge
anyone know if this thing from timewalking is any good?
It has a 45sec ICD so definitely not any good.
tough dagger
It has a 45sec ICD so definitely not any good.
good to know, thank you
rustic copper
why
If a dungeon drops 10 items for resto and you want the shoulders is 1/10, if it drops 8 items for guardian it’s 1/8
gentle nova
Yeah let me lose 10 globals during my cds shifting chains cause my healer sucks
dense lantern
my cooldowns
play mage and press barrier
rustic copper
I opened my vault in guardian
gentle nova
You got a polearm
rustic copper
Yep
fluid compass
its a sign
gentle nova
last parcel
neck right?
fluid compass
ur a tank now
rustic copper
I went the lootspec with less shit trinkets and weapons
And it was half shit trinkets and weapons
But I looted myth heart 
rustic copper
neck right?
Yes
rustic copper
Heart from Windrunner spire
thorn plover
Look at qe
twilit locust
Guys what would be better vault pick? BIS offhand or set head? And later convert some another item with catalyst to make 2 set?
tribal sorrel
Nah become cat
primal cargo
since i wont do raids i must craft staff right ?
rustic copper
Everyone should craft staff
You might get one out of your vault later but that’s ok
thorn plover
Guys what would be better vault pick? BIS offhand or set head? And later convert...
Head
twilit locust
Everyone should craft staff
Why is bis one hand and offhand on wowhead?
thorn plover
That's late game when you have everything else filled
Costs too much to do 1h oh early on
primal cargo
cost what u mean
twilit locust
I mean I already have hero one hand
thorn plover
Crests
rustic copper
Crafting 1h and offhand?
rustic copper
I mean I already have hero one hand
That’s shit
thorn plover
Double crests to run 1h oh
rustic copper
It has to be myth or your weapon is shit
primal cargo
yeah intelect is best stats
rustic copper
If you didn’t craft yet you can still craft a mh and take the oh if it’s the best one
For the ultra late play
twilit locust
If you didn’t craft yet you can still craft a mh and take the oh if it’s the bes...
I havent crafted yet, but I already picket set head so nevermind :D
rustic copper
That’s good, that’ll make you way stronger rn
oak garnet
I watched a video for l'ura mechanics and shut my laptop
crude basin
In the Druid resources under common mistakes it takes you to QElive and mentions you should be at 50cpm minus germination (fake casts). What does that mean? Isn’t casting another rejuve for germination part of your cpm?
primal cargo
what ilvl is bare minimum to try m10
dense lantern
240?
oak garnet
Depends if your tank and dps are good or not but yeah 240 sounds reasonable but it could be lower with a good bm and good dps carry
You could heal it in greens with other 4 carrying
tough portal
In the Druid resources under common mistakes it takes you to QElive and mentions...
Germination is double counting
When you apply a Germ in-game, combat log counts that you registers both Rejuv and Germ at once
tough portal
Germination is double counting
When you apply a Germ in-game, combat log counts ...
If you cast 2 Rejuvs on yourself just back to back, it'll register 3 casts in the combat log. Rejuv -> Rejuv + Germ.
crude basin
Germination is double counting
When you apply a Germ in-game, combat log counts ...
Ahh so I just take my Cpm and subtract the germinations casts to get my “true” cpm
tough portal
To clarify
rustic copper
so tank and dps will be 260+
Good players will not join your group unless you look like a strong player
If you had 4 friends and you were a skilled player you could do 10’s with very low gear but why would a player capable of easily timing a 10 join a group led by someone who hasn’t timed one
rustic copper
oak garnet
Lol they do
crude basin
So for example in this key I had 43 cpm but I should subtract the 6.9 germination so my actual cpm was 36.1
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/VjDLaY1RnBQF68PG?fight=1&type=casts&source=2
tough portal
So for example in this key I had 43 cpm but I should subtract the 6.9 germinatio...
Right. The whole run's uptime numbers and cpm is ofc gonna be skewed by downtime. The post was written with raid logs in mind first.
crude basin
Right. The whole run's uptime numbers and cpm is ofc gonna be skewed by downtime...
Ok gotcha. Thanks
idle lake
whats a good weapon imbue?
wowanalyzer said my oil was cheap and not as good as other options
fervent mica
phoenix oil
idle lake
thats what im using
rustic copper
while opening the ragnaros chest
You should craft a weapon with sparks and then upgrade it when you get myth crests
idle lake
weird
rustic copper
So I would open guardian or feral personally
For higher chance at not getting a weapon
primal cargo
what abt trinkets
rustic copper
I haven’t heard of it having any usable trinkets
reef zenith
think when I was trying to figure out, the stuff that drops from loot table is void suffuser, vaelgors, locus-walker, litany, coach whistle. Of those, litany and suffuser aren't difficult to get given within raid and coach whistle is only ok
depending what you've killed will influence how much of a loot pool gamble you may want to take. There is a lot of int main hand and off hands
but you will see vaults like this where weapons and trinkets are just hard dead and you have to remember a main hand int probably was just as dead and you wouldn't have taken eg radiant sunstone
gentle nova
Germination is double counting
When you apply a Germ in-game, combat log counts ...
Sotf rejuv counts as 3 casts too
hardy junco
anyone else using miniCC?
hardy canopy
yes
hardy junco
Can we chose what to track and not?
still jacinth
What piece is best to craft second?
hardy junco
pins
hardy canopy
just click on spells tab
thorn plover
What piece is best to craft second?
Chest if you didn't pull myth chest from vault
rustic copper
but you will see vaults like this where weapons and trinkets are just hard dead ...
I dont know what you are saying but this is a prime example of why you should go guardian lootspec
reef zenith
I'm saying it's scary to see the slots that are agi weapons and tank trinkets. But the crap healer trinkets aren't really any better so you just feel the fear and do it any way. Only need 1 good option
urban merlin
how do we properly use this?
thorn plover
Oh really?
whole horizon
need to test myself but yeah
thorn plover
I haven't tried it in m+ for a while
thorn plover
Interesting
thorn plover
Yeah that
reef zenith
I'll try it again in a lower key so I'm not int'ing, but last time - post stealth nerf - it seemed to need rakes or rips into the target it had debuffed.
rustic copper
In raid you send on cd
How do you proc it in raid
I got it on my alt but I think I didn’t fully proc it every time
reef zenith
trees moonfire
whole horizon
I'll try it again in a lower key so I'm not int'ing, but last time - post stealt...
yes, that is what all the hotfixes were concerned with
rustic copper
Does a dot tick proc it?
thorn plover
No dots dont
whole horizon
i think its Bursting Growth
whole horizon
each Treant that casts Moonfire consumes a stack
thorn plover
No treeant moonfires proc it
whole horizon
how often do you proc a treant?
thorn plover
Every wg sm
rustic copper
I thought the trinket was targetted
whole horizon
you proc 4 or 5 with convoke alone
thorn plover
10/min
rustic copper
So you cast it on a boss and the treant needs to moonfire the boss to proc it
reef zenith
tbh it felt shit in keys too...numbers probably better there but it felt horrible to play around. Like I was working hard for Loomithars from wish.com
thorn plover
Yeah the moonfires have to hit the target
rustic copper
Not a random add
Ok
Do treants moonfire the same target back to back if it already has it?
thorn plover
If there's only one target they will
rustic copper
I think that’s what happened then
reef zenith
yeah, disc and mw love it because they get to proc it naturally