#resto

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urban bone
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Like should I be using hotw with it or just not care too much

bright swift
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no

sharp cliff
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Try Cursor Cooldown Reloaded, if you have any feedback, tell me ^^

thorn plover
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No

lyric surge
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I use Cursor Cooldown Reloaded

lyric surge
silk ice
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They’re kaspou the friendly ghost

sharp cliff
quick jasper
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Is crafting myth ring a good choice this week if you're not raiding mythic?

lyric surge
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ahhh nice; thanks for doing that. It was the first one I found that did what I wanted when expac dropped

thorn plover
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waste of a craft

quick jasper
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I have yet to get any ring, still have two 250's champions...

grand herald
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run more dungeon

thorn plover
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run m+ then

quick jasper
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I am running dungeons.... alot.

thorn plover
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magisters and nexus are the 2 you want to focus

smoky shell
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hi, does anyone know why my lifebloom isn't giving me any kind of notification when it's in its pandemic window? i tried visual and audio indicators in the cooldown settings and nothing has worked for lifebloom. i was able to get it to work on other abilities, but i am just missing something i guess for lifebloom. i turned all addons off and even removed my glyph affecting the color of the flowers to be safe and nothing is happening still 🙁

grand herald
thorn plover
glossy root
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Is double arcanoweave lining the go for embellishments

grand herald
grand herald
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have to use an addon

glossy root
grand herald
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well you cant double arcanoweave with 1 craft :^)

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but arcanoweave is a good embel yeah

glossy root
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I already have a weapon with arcano and enough sparks for wrists or belt with arcano or am I missing something

placid flax
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yeah good rings

abstract tulip
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can we make QE work for boomkin spec, i think the layout is superior than raidbots

thorn plover
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no its for healing

thorn plover
glossy root
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because if double arcanoweave is bis and crafted weapon is bis then do the math

thorn plover
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double arcanoweave is not bis

urban bone
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His math checks out

smoky shell
thorn plover
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yes i do have tysm, thanks for noticing

grand herald
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i didnt even think you could put arcanoweave on weapons

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it says armour

glossy root
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oh Im stupid. I have hunt on

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carry on

thorn plover
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jfc

abstract tulip
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i put arcanoweave on my belt and it says "spells and abilities" so it doesnt have to be damaging buttons

thorn plover
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belt isnt a weapon

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whos talking about damaging buttons

spark river
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You cant put arcanoweave on a weapon

abstract tulip
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lol

glossy root
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guys put arcanoweave on your weapons

urban bone
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If you press very hard, you may damage your buttons

idle lake
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can somebody review my logs

thorn plover
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sure

idle lake
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why was this so hard to heal

spark river
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Say the things purr

idle lake
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i went oom multiple times

thorn plover
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i already typed them

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gonna copy paste

idle lake
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and then 2 people died on 2nd boss

abstract tulip
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because its a 13

idle lake
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yes but im healing 12s fine

abstract tulip
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and its tyranical

thorn plover
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oh this is m+

idle lake
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it feels like my spells arent enough to heal through the mechanics

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surely 268 isnt too low

abstract tulip
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have you tried moving yoru lifebloom around and then using swiftmend to get the lifebloom proc?

thorn plover
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your stats are trash

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thats why

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you have no mastery and your haste is super low

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mastery is huge in m+

shrewd jay
spark river
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I have 37% mastery send help

abstract tulip
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im at 30 haste 30 mastery feels good in m+

thorn plover
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you lost out on like 8% healing from that alone

spark river
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2 lb casts lmao

abstract tulip
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they need your add on ❤️

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i didnt check what my uptime was lastnight with the add on

sharp umbra
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can someone explain it to me like im 5 on why so many people are gushing over MW monk

shrewd jay
thorn plover
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lifebloom uptime needs to be north of 90%

grand herald
thorn plover
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also remove that talent from regenesis and put it in embrace

abstract tulip
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lifebloom is like 5 heals in 1 it also heals people who stand in the green circle it blooms on them

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my healing got better in raid when i focused on 12 rejuv then spam the regrowths while maintaining lifeblooms and hots on the tank. i didnt focus heal the tanks like last week

shrewd jay
thorn plover
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then they suck, or are maintaining it with swiftmend VI

abstract tulip
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you can put lifebloom on yourself

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just use the button

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gives you mana free regrowths why wouldnt you keep the hot up?

rustic copper
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You can lb almost anyone and it’s fine

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Ok that’s the least important thing lifebloom does

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Makes your almost free regrowths free holy moly

shrewd jay
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Ok I understood

thorn plover
abstract tulip
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you dont need to tell me about lifebloom its my favorite heal

proven remnant
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🤣

timber raft
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fello lazy folk - what are people macroing Vaelgor's to in M+?

shrewd jay
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I'll do better thx for this tips.

distant isle
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Hey boys where do put your arcanoweave lining on? I have champ shoulders and champ bracers but can decide what to craft. Can you help?

rustic copper
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It’s my least favorite heal that’s why I run vi so I don’t need to cast it garf

thorn plover
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unless you pulled myth chest from vault

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then boots/belt

distant isle
abstract tulip
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whats really neat this season is after you get your 4set after killing bosses they drop catalyst so you can make more pieces into teir

thorn plover
distant isle
thorn plover
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garbage

abstract tulip
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our teir chest is the worst piece of the 5 you want to swap it out

thorn plover
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catalyze something else and craft chest

distant isle
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and than but the arcanoweave on right?

thorn plover
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yes

rustic copper
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4p is so useless this tier garf

thorn plover
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eh its a free 4%

abstract tulip
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mabye it helps our aoe line up with big hits who knows

thorn plover
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could be worse

rustic copper
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Free 4%

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Where did you get 4% from

thorn plover
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from my logs

rustic copper
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How can you even argue it’s 4%

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How did you evaluate it to 4%

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lol

thorn plover
rustic copper
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That’s the 2p

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The 2p is fine

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The 4p is useless

thorn plover
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part of that 4% is from extra casts from the 4 piece, idk what portion it would be

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but ya youre right all the value is in the 2p

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probably an angle where you run 2p and off pieces

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leech helm?

rustic copper
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That’s my plan

thorn plover
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yeah i was thinking it but thats a ways down the road for me

rustic copper
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I’m already wearing only 2p but it’ll be much more justified with leech helm

upper estuary
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Hey Team, is the Arcanoweave Lining depent on the ilevel of the boots? I only have enough crests for weapon or boots to be mythic

thorn plover
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do weapon

rustic copper
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I also wouldn’t craft boots

gentle nova
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Lmao

upper estuary
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I thought boots were the second option behind belt? I am stuck with vet boots I was just gonna upgrade

thorn plover
bright swift
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Yeah Photo is so good btw

thorn plover
rustic copper
bright swift
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no

upper estuary
thorn plover
bright swift
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UG

rustic copper
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What boss is that

thorn plover
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but i like WG at the top of my meter

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lol

bright swift
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Salhadaar

rustic copper
thorn plover
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lol

rustic copper
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Press buttons

thorn plover
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fair

idle lake
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12 = healed

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is the gap between 12 and 13 that big ?

thorn plover
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not really

idle lake
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so confusing..

lunar sun
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Was it just the 2nd boss you had issues with?

idle lake
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yeah

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i had issues again

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but didnt run oom this time

idle lake
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and no deaths

thorn whale
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I almost did it

lunar sun
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Well seems like you’ve solved it then haha

grizzled seal
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i played meme build @bright swift

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just pressed sm and wg on cd

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(at least tried to)

lunar sun
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Maybe it was dps not cycling through defensive when taking the beam, it helps a lot for you triaging

thorn whale
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did u play as tree

grizzled seal
idle lake
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this was my overall healing

grizzled seal
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idk if tree is better

thorn whale
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I cant decide if I wanna try and play it more

idle lake
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going to 13 windrunner now

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any advice

thorn whale
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heal and dont die

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yw

rustic copper
abstract tulip
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i need to do windrunner more for the trinket but i dont want to farm it

rustic copper
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Holy moly

thorn plover
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only hard part in windrunner is the 2 spots you drop down the ramps

grizzled seal
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it just auto heals

lunar sun
rich hamlet
gentle charm
lunar sun
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Last boss is ez if you can see who’s getting targeted beforehand

gentle charm
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or one of the axe throwers?

lunar sun
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Oh windeunner

idle lake
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my weakaura is gone

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is there a new addon that works for it

lunar sun
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Pray your dps aren’t stupid on first pull, you will actually need to pay attention to who get circles on bird boss to prep. Top people up before the magic orge casts fire nova. Last boss just consistently pump and probably ironbark person who gets targeted by cone frontal

idle lake
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my achilles heel

lunar sun
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Targeted spells is very important

paper harbor
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does anyone know how to cast Heart of the Wild on bear form only ? My macro shows the cat version

lunar sun
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Some bosses you really need to know who’s getting targeted beforehand

idle lake
grizzled seal
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@rustic copper

lunar sun
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It’s literally called targeted spells o think

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But maybe danders frames is doing it

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Not sure tbh it just works for me

idle lake
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found it

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thanks

arctic dock
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BiS embillishment for m+ ?

bright swift
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@grizzled seal****

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they gave me this piss

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nobody else needed it

thorn plover
bright swift
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do I just slam my socket on that...

thorn whale
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Did you take socket last week

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or this week

bright swift
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yea last

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the dreamrift belt is for sure better though

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and nobody needs that either

arctic dock
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What to craft other than 2h weap? I'm behind and wanna catch up so rather wait with 2h to get bigger ilvl jumps

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and just craft 2h later

thorn plover
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craft weapon first, its the same amount of crests

fervent mica
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wep gives you by far the most power

abstract tulip
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its in the pins but its weapon/chest/belt/boots

rustic copper
gentle nova
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Gj

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What rank

thorn whale
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2 I think

gentle nova
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Also the npc did more healing than the hpal

thorn whale
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They are the same

gentle nova
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Im crine

violet adder
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What are yall crafting this week?

thorn plover
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chest

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unless you pulled myth chest from vault

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📌

gentle nova
wise galleon
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do you guys use right click left click for applying reju/regrowths?

thorn plover
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not me

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hope that helps

wise galleon
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Just wondering, never thought of doing that but it feels like I can't target ppl on my screen without completely relying on my raid frames

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Just new to healing

thorn plover
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huh

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how do you do it without your raid frames

bright swift
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mana pots are so banned man

thorn whale
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:((

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I oomed at 06:18

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Bad play

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Should've weaved 2 feral frenzies

thorn plover
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i clicked one on pull by accident yesterday and took it off my bar and deleted from my inventory

gentle nova
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274 ilvl

wise galleon
gentle nova
abstract tulip
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i use 1 for rejuv and 4 for regrowth, i have mouse over enabled on raid frames so i just hover the mouse over the person and push the button. are you not using raid frames are you heaing with healthbars above peoples names like enemy heath bars? @wise galleon

gentle nova
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Im 266 man wtff

thorn plover
wise galleon
thorn whale
wise galleon
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Just not used to mousovers I guess

thorn plover
wise galleon
unique sedge
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Any thoughts on the 2 rings from nexus? Is it worth to wear them both for some dmg or is that dmg completely worthless? Never seen someone with a set.

wise galleon
bronze gulch
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How do I track incarnation timer (reforestation), cdm doesn't seem to work. Any addon like hot tracker etc that I can look to? I'm running convoke

abstract tulip
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good good

fervent mica
thorn whale
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I have 120 myth crests rn

fervent mica
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i have 30... lmao

bronze gulch
thorn plover
thorn whale
unique sedge
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And QElive seems to avoid crit items. Is crit really 0 for us?

fervent mica
bronze gulch
fleet jewel
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is tree from refo private?

thorn whale
thorn plover
fervent mica
fleet jewel
fervent mica
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aka be a bitch and hope they notice?

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they gave me the boots from 2nd boss this week... after helm last week. idk

bronze gulch
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Any addon recommendations for raid/m+ healing? I got your hot tracker and lifebloom and I'm using default raid frame with bartender xdd

fleet jewel
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catErm default frames

bronze gulch
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gamin

hexed locust
spark river
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You wanna talk about it

thorn whale
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I ramp for incoming damage

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and when I've ramped enough, I use RG

fleet jewel
spark river
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Skill issue

sharp silo
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which talent makes rejuv change the icon to this?

fervent mica
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sotf

sharp silo
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ahh ty

fleet jewel
grizzled seal
thorn whale
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trade

bronze gulch
thorn whale
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Did you guys do new raid today?

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@grizzled seal

grizzled seal
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2x normal and 2x first boss heroic

waxen ingot
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Yo torty

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are you crafting chest?

grizzled seal
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already did

waxen ingot
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Yeah i wanted to craf it but why does wowhead recommend waist?

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as 2nd craft

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would offpiece be better?

grizzled seal
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you know I dont read guides

waxen ingot
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I mean yeah

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but im curious why isnt off piece recommended

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maybe there is some higher reasoning

main timber
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Offpiece is probably better but it doesn't really matter much

fervent mica
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early power

thorn whale
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It just depends on what you've done already as well

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I sent HC crests into chest

fervent mica
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putting crests into a bigger slot, even if its replaced later

main timber
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Yeah and the guide is awkward because you hvae to understand average reader is in like 240 gear right now

thorn whale
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so Belt was better

grizzled seal
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I wont replace this chest for a very long time

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Because I dont want to pick out of m+ vault

steel iron
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why isnt the worldboss haste statstick trinket on any of the trinket sims? 102 haste stat stick sounds kinda good for season 1

main timber
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It's good but it's a nightmare trinket to add to the chart. It should work in Top Gear

thorn whale
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We decided to skip and wait until sunday

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and just prog paladins

main timber
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It would be fine if there were four versions of this, but it's just one item with four bonus_ids that determines secondaries

grizzled seal
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normal was pretty dogshit but heroic was good

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I think this bird is fun at least

thorn whale
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Paladins is much easier btw

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we got it to 18% today

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So if people already had decent prog on that boss

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I think it's a fast going onto Alleria angle

grizzled seal
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What was your prog before nerfs?

thorn whale
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63%, we died at the same point every time

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just didn't have comp to deal with the damage

grizzled seal
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Did you full vantus paladins?

thorn whale
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Now or last week?

grizzled seal
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now

thorn whale
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I think so yes

terse sparrow
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so who wants the good news?

grizzled seal
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We don't want to do that

terse sparrow
thorn whale
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Yeah you shouldn't

thorn plover
bronze gulch
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when does lifebloom need to be reapplied is it 4.5sec or later?

thorn whale
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I think we're realistically never killing Alleria this week anyways

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so it makes no sense for us not to Vantus

thorn whale
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and just get more head into wall time on Alleria

bronze gulch
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ok it's on 3 atm keep missing it haha

idle lake
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is wowanalyser good for dungeons

steel iron
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for pushing keys would you drop haste or mastery for vers?

thorn plover
idle lake
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how come

thorn plover
thorn plover
idle lake
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I see

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can you kindly review another log for me then

steel iron
thorn plover
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If you're doing that high of keys I'd think you'd be able to figure that out

waxen ingot
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if you need to ask, you dont need more vers

thorn plover
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Mastery does work in keys

thorn whale
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That’s not the question

calm dirge
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I just realized something

waxen ingot
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well a lil of both

calm dirge
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for raid i just have to treat resto druid as disc but without the damage and then you suddenly pump healing numbers

waxen ingot
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but vick dropped alot of haste for vers for example

steel iron
thorn whale
waxen ingot
thorn whale
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He says that 31% haste is the spot he found to be good

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Like what does that even mean

calm dirge
waxen ingot
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ngl he pugs alot and he times his keys and manages to heal them

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so w/e u say, what he does works :p

thorn whale
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His pugging is fake

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And if you play 1.000.000 keys

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You will time some of them

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I’m not saying he’s not good

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I’m saying don’t reference him as a source on stats

calm dirge
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Something I personally would never do is looking at other healers stats on raider.io for example. It's very misleading

storm estuary
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here are mine, do whatever you want

calm dirge
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There can be a million reasons why they go for other stats than recommended

waxen ingot
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I never look at any stats of others

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but if a person is asking do i drop haste or mastery to time high keys

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only anwer to him is dont drop either?

thorn whale
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No???

waxen ingot
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?

idle lake
storm estuary
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271

idle lake
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why am i such a pig

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im only 2 below you

thorn whale
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You definitely drop mastery for vers when you get to a high enough key level where you need it

reef zenith
thorn whale
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Like what are you saying

calm dirge
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That kinda depends on how much vers we're talking about

waxen ingot
calm dirge
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If you only get like 2-3% then no

waxen ingot
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you are not asking it here

exotic quail
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Hi, i picked a mythic haste/mast weap from vault what should i craft now? 2 parts with arcanoweave lining or i can add some other embelishment as well?

waxen ingot
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be serious

thorn whale
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But they did?

waxen ingot
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but you dont need more verse in a 16

thorn whale
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So if you have nothing to contribute to their question

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Don’t answer

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It’s free to not type

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You know

waxen ingot
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you dont drop anything to time a 16 right now

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it only makes it harder

storm estuary
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I've never dropped anything for vers, or targeted vers, I believe vick is focused almost entirely on his DPS and the minimum amount needed to heal his group

thorn whale
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Was that their question

thorn plover
idle lake
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we had lots of deaths on 3rd boss

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and one on the bird

waxen ingot
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their question also got added context later

idle lake
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i cant find why they died on details

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and suck at using wcl

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i just like seeing the purple numbers

waxen ingot
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and u can drop mastr or haste and neither is wrong and once u r doing those key levels u r aware of what u want to drop

thorn whale
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Yes it is wrong

waxen ingot
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how can it be wrong when u have no clue if he has

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1400 haste

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or 1800

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or 1300

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same goes for mastery

reef zenith
# waxen ingot but you dont need more verse in a 16

depends on ilvl actually...I don't know for 16 right now because not tried yet. But will stand by 15s in s3 TWW a few weeks prior to turbo...did start to need thinking about vers . And then after turbo you didn't even need to at 17s. I mean, after turbo you no longer had to plan cooldowns for 17s really

thorn plover
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you linked spire

idle lake
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yeah spire

thorn plover
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ok

idle lake
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its a failed timer

waxen ingot
idle lake
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thank you

thorn whale
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Alright I think you just don’t really know why I’m saying that, and now you’re making a random scenario. I think he should drop his 5k crit instead

reef zenith
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passive stamina from general ilvl also helps

thorn plover
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3rd boss people died to standing in shit

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not your fault

calm dirge
thorn plover
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lock and dragon both died to circles twice each on that fight

reef zenith
waxen ingot
idle lake
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I see

inner sonnet
idle lake
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we had deaths on last boss but i know why that happened

storm estuary
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if people die above 15, it's their fault, not yours 🫡

calm dirge
idle lake
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lock and tank both didnt lift up

thorn whale
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But that is such a bad answer 💀💀💀💀💀

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Obviously they’re asking to prioritize haste or mastery as well

waxen ingot
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Saying you drop mastery aint better ngl

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its worse imo

thorn whale
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What keys

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Did you play last season

idle lake
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but where people didnt die was the healing fine? it just felt really hard even compared to the 12s ive been doing

reef zenith
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it's also not that deep either...if you feel like you made heal checks but die to random shit you drop mastery for vers. If you feel like you're not meeting the heal checks and also worried you're squish it has to be haste given that mastery gives more hps in M+ but only gives heal and nothing else

waxen ingot
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18s 19s

calm dirge
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I don't get why it's even a debate tbh. Vers is never going to matter in a 15 or 16. If you die to that then it's not because of survivalbility

calm dirge
waxen ingot
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and i took a verse flask since it felt better than haste flask

storm estuary
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vers aint helping no one, pump out more healing and dps stop standing in bad

waxen ingot
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but i didnt drop any stats with gear

inner sonnet
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It comes down to personal preference at the end of the day, with the golden rule that you dont gimp yourself too much tbh.

thorn plover
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@idle lake honestly none of these deaths are your fault, except first pull

calm dirge
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Today I got asked in Seat if I could heal two of those chain dued at the same time. I said yes, and that tank pulled 4 AT ONCE KEKL

thorn plover
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first pull is hard af, just gotta send cd's

idle lake
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i was lined on first pull the monk went all the way around and then the dragon was stood behind the fountain

calm dirge
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And people also stacked with them

waxen ingot
idle lake
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are my cd usages good other than that first pull

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i feel like im saving them too much

waxen ingot
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dependign on dung

idle lake
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idk why ive got above 12 and suddenly became way more conscious of them

thorn whale
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Do you understand what mastery does

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And what haste does

inner sonnet
thorn plover
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youll know what pulls you need them on and when you can just send them

waxen ingot
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But you cant just say drop mastery as a defenitive answer bro

thorn whale
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Yes you can

thorn plover
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if you have to send outside of your normal spots, youll need to compensate obviously

waxen ingot
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I mean nothing to argue anymore

calm dirge
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Also is it just me or are Hunters incredibly squishy? I swear I always need to have like 2x reju at all times on them. No time to dps

waxen ingot
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we just disagree

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and thats fine

thorn whale
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Mastery is a multiplier for your healing. We have infinite healing

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You downscale your healing for survivability

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Haste contributes to healing and damage

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And you need both

calm dirge
thorn whale
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So you downscale mastery until you can’t hit the heal checks anymore

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Idk

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read it twice if you need to

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Gn

inner sonnet
#

aNYWAYS

calm dirge
#

is the useless debate over

vivid peak
#

are trash ability timers hidden?

calm dirge
#

oh you mean in dungeons? I think so yea

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i haven't tried testing with bigwigs or dbm yet

thorn plover
#

yeah timers are

inner sonnet
#

wait you can have trash timers on bigwigs?

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oh

calm dirge
#

you could in last expansion, but you needed to add them manually

thorn plover
#

if blizz timeline doesnt show it, neither does dbm and bw

calm dirge
#

It's weird because it is an option to turn it on in bigwigs

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i don't really use bigwigs i just now noticed it

thorn plover
#

yeah there just is nothing that feeds into it

idle lake
thorn plover
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if blizz added reminders on trash, bigwigs would show

calm dirge
#

i guess it's probably just a placeholder if they decide to change it back

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or maybe it's some kind of countdown you can enable

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But then again the only ability i really need to track is the chain one in seat

vivid peak
#

just kinda wanted to see them to learn dungeons faster

thorn plover
#

you can see that with targeted spells

calm dirge
#

is that an addon?

thorn plover
#

theres about 100 that do the same thing

calm dirge
#

what

idle lake
#

does this show it on unit frames

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i installed the other one

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but it shows them next to it

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very upsetting

thorn plover
#

danders shows on unitframes

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i dont like it tho

calm dirge
#

i just use plater but that's kinda hard to use all the time since i also need to use party frames

idle lake
#

whats danders

#

is that like grid2

thorn plover
#

ya

calm dirge
#

I don't use Danders, I kinda dislike how you set it up

idle lake
#

ah i dont like those

calm dirge
#

I loved Cell, it was so much better imo

thorn plover
#

what, danders setup menu is goated

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cell setup was a nightmare

thorn whale
#

Cell setup was copy Swirl angle

calm dirge
#

Well it's more I feel like you can't setup how i want it

thorn plover
#

needed a phd to install cell without importing a profile

thorn plover
calm dirge
#

I spent like 5 hours yesterday trying to do it, i gave up

calm dirge
thorn plover
#

they all look identical atp

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lol

calm dirge
#

I just ended up using BetterBlizzFrames instead. That one is pretty easy to setup

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if you can get behind the million useless settings

rocky lodge
#

@thorn plover just wanna say thank you for your lifebloom addon, an absolute lifesaver 🫶🏼

eternal widget
#

I see logs with ~45s convoke CD, what am I missing on my talents? I already have "Cenarius' Guidance"

eternal widget
thorn plover
#

❤️

rocky lodge
#

guys one question, i have a veteran maledict chest which is bis but is currently obv super low ilvl, should i craft a chest OR constantly rerun nexus to get a hero maledict?

thorn plover
#

craft

reef zenith
#

Also using the lifebloom and hot addons and both have been awesome

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Had a good night tonight with the no apex convoke build as well - 6/9 heroic logs up to orange. Yeah heroic logs are a bit of a meme but it’s what I have for now and hopefully guild won’t be forever to push into mythic

eternal widget
reef zenith
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Both of @thorn plover ‘s addons

eternal widget
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im not very happy with arcui, will try that one 🙂

blissful lion
#

i am begining to understand the spec

eternal widget
eternal widget
thorn plover
#

this isnt an arcui replacement

eternal widget
#

TBH this is exactly what I need

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I used to have a W/A for exactly this lol

rocky lodge
reef zenith
#

Yeah, I’m using Ayije for most of my cdm, but then the others on top

rocky lodge
#

not sure if i should swap to convoke for those fights

thorn plover
#

convoke on all the fights

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imo

eternal widget
thorn plover
#

arcui for refo stacks

rocky lodge
#

i pumped chimaerus and salad bar on tree

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but is convoke the way for the rest?

thorn plover
reef zenith
rocky lodge
#

dang orange parses you’re crazy

urban bridge
#

I thought I read they needed the no apex build, is that more true?

reef zenith
uncut willow
#

Has anyone else noticed that when you consume Soul of the Forest that your lifebloom will still bloom even when you do not have a lifeblood out?
I also have tried putting lifebloom up before consuming Soul of the Forest while taking the talent Harmonious Blooming and it does not increase the healing of the blooming frenzy even though I have 30% mastery and it should be increased by a lot
Is this a bug?

thorn plover
#

1st part yes, known bug

uncut willow
#

My blooming frenzy just feels like it doesn't do anything at all no matter how much mastery or HoTs I put up

thorn plover
#

ArcUI reforestation bars

cursive pilot
#

ah too used to seeing green pod

rocky lodge
#

is there a profile i need to import for those refor bars

#

i’ve not used arcui

thorn plover
#

its a lot to set up

cerulean stratus
#

bruh i cant decide between vi and prosp

rocky lodge
pastel dragon
#

in PoS how do you deal with the curse dot that absolutely chunks thats come out 2 at a time and you can only insta dispel one? just keep everyone HoTed before hand and have iron bark ready for one ? i guess you also need to rely on other people using their personals?

thorn plover
#

same way the classes that cant do curses do

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heal

reef zenith
pastel dragon
reef zenith
#

You also have swiftness regrowth and iron bark as longer cooldowns, but consume SoTF to make apex go brrr is a huge, new part of our kit in keys

pastel dragon
#

definitely need to learn to utilize everything better, thanks

shut barn
#

noob question here (recently rerolled troll) where is best to put berserking racial on macro, just both tranq and convoke so its gets used for regrowths post cd usage?

idle lake
#

new boss was mega fun

limber dirge
#

Is there an addon that tells you what convoke spells you hit or was that nuked with the new xpac

bright swift
#

Wowanalyzer

thorn plover
#

but wowanalyzer shows for each cast

waxen ingot
#

I felt like when i go convoke in cat

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i get less than 5cp

bright swift
#

Noticed that too

cerulean stratus
#

you cant really calculate prosp % like vi in wowanalyzer right

#

torn if i should hop on the vi train or not

vivid elbow
#

you can use cpm

grim garden
#

Do you guys think this is good idea or just wait till something better myth needs upgrade?

thorn plover
#

yeah, do not do that

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also before you upgrade myth pieces you should upgrade the hero to 6/6 to save crests

grim garden
#

btw I checked pins and didn't find what I could craft with my 2H weapon

thorn plover
#

wym?

grim garden
#

I have crafted a 2H weapon, with Darkmoon sigil hunt I think

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and idk what I can craft now

#

what I should craft

thorn plover
#

its the first pin

vivid elbow
#

wowhead tells you

thorn plover
vivid elbow
#

and also that haha

thorn plover
#

i dont think you did check the pins

grim garden
#

I am checking different pins

thorn plover
#

its literally the most recent pin

grim garden
#

apparently

thorn plover
#

no thats the same pin

grim garden
#

ah ok

thorn plover
#

you just shared the same screenshot i did

grim garden
#

i didnt see it

vivid elbow
#

this is hilarious

grim garden
#

arcanoweave lining should be used on 2h too or just the 2nd craft?

thorn plover
#

you cant put it on weapon

grim garden
#

ah okay

#

I will craft the chest then, when I get the chance to move my 4p out of that slot

thorn plover
#

@half star can you update the crafting pin to say hunt embellish for weapon

grim garden
#

Does anyone know how often do manaflux (catalyst) drop after 4p?

thorn plover
#

i got 4 yesterday in raid

grim garden
#

ah okay, they drop off m+ too right?

thorn plover
#

yes

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and bountiful delves

grim garden
#

okay ty vm ^_^

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idk the name

bright swift
#

I got 0 from an entire reclear

thorn plover
#

sorry, i got 3 from raid, 1 from m+

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lots of guildies got 0

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so im sure ill be on a dry spell now

oak garnet
#

Good thing you have enough for the rest of the season xd

thorn plover
#

not if i keep sending on leech pieces

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lol

oak garnet
#

Heard that did that today x2

eternal spoke
#

Hey everyone.
I opened the vault today and I have a dilemma.
I have the champion head and shoulder tiers. However, I got a mythic head tier and a mythic Ring (Band of the Triumvirate) from the vault.
Which choice would be reasonable?

thorn plover
#

unlucky, no other pieces you can catalyze into 4 piece?

eternal spoke
#

Yes TT

clever chasm
#

what you craft like secondary item with embelishment after 2H Staff/Mace?

waxen ingot
#

2️⃣ ⚙️ For your second craft, likely candidates are chest (our tier off-piece, high budget slot) or boots/belt (medium budget, not reserved for tier, weaker alternative options) with the Arcanoweave Lining embellishment.

clever chasm
#

what about wrist?

fervent mica
#

good wrists are farmable

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other slots are bad/less value

bright swift
#

Yeah let's waste 80 myth crests on the worst slot

hearty coral
#

I got the Xenas hero chest and still have shitty belt and boots but the higher budget thing had me paused on which one to do

#

Maybe I'll do some more farming and see what happens

fervent mica
#

i made belt since guild had us send crests... crafting chest after 6/6 heroing chest would be sadness

bright swift
#

Bad planning

half star
#

I did the same but got Xenas myth chest from vault so was rewarded 🙂

bright swift
#

I didn't upgrade my chest last week because I knew I would craft

half star
#

Perfectly planned

fervent mica
#

lol

inner sonnet
#

I just did a feeling and did whatever

rustic copper
#

if you full send upgrades on your chest and got a chest our of your vault you were strategically stronger for 1 reset

little briar
#

anyone got a decent ui / addon for raid frames any recommendations

thorn plover
#

grid or danders

primal jungle
#

whichever one helps u click the icons faster

gentle charm
#

do we have preference on what to/what not to cata?

#

don't cata chest?

green basalt
#

How we feeling about avoidance enchants over leech for 15+ keys?

grim garden
#

does anyone know the crafted chest piece item name

tacit barn
#

is natures bounty worth taking in m+?

cursive pilot
#

60 speed hmm

grim garden
#

so um... can someone tell which chest piece am I supposed to craft acoording to the pin?

grand herald
#

the leather one

grim garden
grand herald
#

the one that you can put an embellishment on

grim garden
#

okay I think it's the silvermoon one

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thanks

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the other one I cant choose stats

#

it has its own

rustic copper
grim garden
#

ty 🙏

gentle charm
crisp yew
#

Why exactly is rdruid at the top of Raider IO? Is it just because of the Versa buff? I don't have time to do some DPS during the keys is there something specific about it?

gentle charm
#

good healer, best buff

ember sky
#

Is asking about vault pick fair in this channel? Just want to make sure it is since I feel like people ask a lot

gentle charm
#

yes

severe shoal
#

@proven phoenix you think i can get ur grid2 profile?

proven phoenix
severe shoal
#

thx

ember sky
#

Have Hero Tier chest I got from vault last week, so I'm between picking up Myth chest or getting glove to catalyze into tier (my current gloves are champ 6/6)

#

I can certainly get myth tier chest, upgrade my hero tier chest to 6/6 and save on crests that way

fervent mica
#

you don't want to wear tier chest

ember sky
#

I know stats are kinda crap, but at this point, main stat? it's basically going from champ 6/6 to myth 6/6 INT

#

So do you think gloves are a better pick and then just max them out

fervent mica
#

i would take gloves, keep farming gear... use hero crests to get a pair of gloves to 6/6 hero to save the 20 myth crests

#

wouldn't upgrade the gloves until you can do that

ember sky
#

Yup, then craft 285 chest yes?

fervent mica
#

if you still have 4 set

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otherwise work on getting the missing off piece then hit it

ember sky
#

unfort not, may stick with hero chest until I can get another catalyst to drop

#

Got it so grab gloves to catalyze (4/4 set with chest piece), get another catalyst, catalyze legs, craft chest? Does that sound like a fair sequence

dry belfry
proven phoenix
#

yeah.... it used to be theuns profile

#

been changed massively over time lmfao

#

heroic luura time

#

I think its over for me

ember sky
#

Also - if I'm not raiding mythic and only do M+, is the move to get crafted chest for main stat?

unique sedge
#

Is danders worth using for unitframes?

rain oyster
#

yes

#

was meant at @ember sky

ember sky
rain oyster
ember sky
#

Hah sorry I wasn't more clear. So drop the weapon embellish to get chest yeah? afaik can't have both sorry new-ish

rain oyster
#

you can have two embellishment

grizzled kayak
#

In mythic+ do you guys always symbiotic the tank or the squishy dps?

ember sky
#

Oh sick

fervent mica
thorn plover
#

lmao new raid normal is hilarious

#

idk why we even went in normal

cursive pilot
#

i love memory game

little briar
#

anyone know why the frame isnt class color?

rustic copper
hardy canopy
gentle charm
#

oh shit bois we got heroic gaze

proven phoenix
thorn plover
#

wiping to tank deaths on heroic bird

#

colors are hard

pulsar kettle
#

<@&114146878353833984>

urban cosmos
#

how many stacks of abundance should i try to hang around for raid?

rustic copper
grand herald
#

go up to 12, then you can drop to 6-8ish before ramping again

rustic copper
#

idk why but we haven't

urban cosmos
#

thank you =), ive actually been having issues keeping my rejuvs up and catch myself just spamming regrowth, so im tryign to work on fixing that 🙂

warm lion
#

Eye of Blazing Power any good?

thorn plover
#

Dont over rejuv

#

lots of regrowth is good

opal radish
#

Whats up with logs having ~20k less hps than in game? Is there a known reason for that?

thorn plover
#

double counts on absorbs

#

or something weird

rustic copper
tame karma
#

has anyone been feeling like refreshing lifebloom below like 4 seconds doesn't have much of an impact anymore?

median salmon
#

I'm running apexless build. I've been assigned weird spots for convoke... is it worth casting convoke outside of treeform from reforestation or should I be holding that proc for convoke?

pulsar kettle
#

all of your convokes should be in reforest tbh

#

what are ur healer cds assigned like

#

you might be getting screwed by someone that doesn't understand rdruid

median salmon
#

58s 2:18s 4:04s 5:24s 7:08s

#

They're not terrible timings but I'd have to be holding swiftmends and that feels even worse?

#

or its possible i'm stupid too

#

Cuz I'm just returning to rdruid so playing catchup.

thorn plover
#

you should not be assigning convokes

#

tell your raid lead he sucks

median salmon
#

lol thx... I just wanna make sure I'm doing things correctly before I find out I'm replaced for underperforming.

urban cosmos
#

one more question before i get back to raid since breaks ending! with M+, i know the usual is to kitty weave, which i do fine, but would running keeper of the grove work as well?

vast rapids
thorn plover
#

wtf is this shit

#

we get this dagger every time

fervent mica
#

its the only way that can trick rogues into playing the game

thorn plover
#

JUST GOT MYTHIC BOE BOOTS

#

LETS GO

mental dew
#

Gratz

thorn plover
#

bis boots

hearty coral
#

Or

#

2 mil gold

#

....

thorn plover
#

theyre bop

#

till next week

proven phoenix
#

@rustic copper

waxen ingot
little briar
#

tyty

rustic copper
proven phoenix
#

ok man

#

not for you

#

it is for me

gentle nova
#

@rustic copper you 4healing?

rustic copper
#

6

gentle nova
#

Bro ur cracked

#

Apply to liquid

cunning parcel
#

What to people use nowadays to create raid healing cds?

thorn plover
#

mrt or northern sky are fine

gentle nova
#

Nice try

rustic copper
#

we need like

#

.5% more dmg

#

and this boss dies on multiple pulls

gentle nova
#

Just deop a healer

rustic copper
#

I think we can but it will be less pulls to find 1% more dmg

#

than to figure out a 5 heal

gentle nova
#

5 healing should be fine i was watching health

rustic copper
#

it's def sketchy

#

at many times

#

siren 5 heal alert

gentle nova
#

U doing it?

rustic copper
#

trying

gentle nova
#

250k hps inc

grizzled kayak
#

Find hard to keep all 5 players in efflorescence if I LB tank, do we get more value if we LB ourselves and position in a way to get most of our party members in efflo?

tough portal
#

Tank just takes damage

#

Better to effectively heal

#

But I'm playing without Lifetreading now

uncut willow
#

Does anyone know how much our mastery diminishes per HoT? Is there a chart of some kind?

main timber
onyx trail
tough portal
#

Yeah I think I'm still getting pretty good Efflo value after a couple runs getting used to manually casting it

#

It's not bad and idk keeps me more busy, I like it better gameplay wise too

tough portal
#

Lifetreading too nice for pvp

#

It's also rly funny when you Early Spring Lifeblooms out

#

And Efflo just keeps popping up in a different spot every 0.2s

onyx trail
#

I will play preservation instead

tough portal
#

Niko was up there for a liddle bit

#

250k end of fight looks impossible but 200k probably could do

tough portal
#

You can play it by ear with LB targeting in some spots but tanks take real damage and arent fully self sufficient rn so it's nice to keep it on them

frozen umbra
#

does the additional powers for crucible only work in voidspire?

#

or all raids

main timber
#

Everywhere

grizzled kayak
#

Thanks guys I think I’ll try to play without lifetreading as well and see how that goes. If I LB tank more than likely is always just the tank in with me and maybe 1 melee?

#

But tbh be 100% next to the tank (in efflorescence) is not always possible as healer

#

So in that case would be only 2 players in efflo. Idk I think in general people are never even bother to step in and that piss me off

marsh prism
#

then lb self?

#

and stand on ppl?

#

sorry i just got here i just dont really ever understand this complaint

grizzled kayak
#

Thought bout that but as people said we get better value to have it on tank

#

As he’s constantly taking dmg

#

Is not a complain. Just trying to improve

marsh prism
#

its just situational

#

so you need to understand when maybe it is better to pump the tank full of lb and as a result have efflo on them vs when the tank is maybe more self sufficient and you could serve some bad ranged players standing too far away by hanging with them with lb on you and efflo

#

its just experience and practice to identify and remember and hotswap as needed

#

in different scenarios, whether thats different groups entirely or pull by pull

grizzled kayak
#

Thanks for your output Nance

marsh prism
#

this is also entirely beside the point that maybe you just dont take lifetreading possibly. all of this is to say that it does seem like you understand it all, it really just comes down to practice

grizzled kayak
#

Maybe I don’t and that’s why I’m asking 🙂

marsh prism
#

i think you do

#

you definitely do more than you realise

#

with a few things in our kit there's kind of not always a singular right answer as long as you understand the talents you're taking and how to take advantage of them

analog raft
lunar sun
analog raft
#

I hate pairing with holy pallys and disc priests

#

fricken cheaters, the lot of em

#

but too much rejuve is good advice

lunar sun
#

It’s possible you’re rejuving so much since the raid is never really dropping low if the other healers are competent and burstier

#

If you just want higher numbers you can kinda ignore raid hp and just focus on cycling between ramping rejuvs and then spamming regrowths with abundance window during dmg windows regardless if people are actually dropping low

marsh quarry
#

my weee lil brain is struggling to understand ... haste still our best secondary yeah? SO why gems with mastery over haste?

#

with normal gearing we'll hit too far into haste & hit diminishing returns?

thorn plover
#

sim your gems

#

dont look at the list

marsh prism
#

huge nance W in the trading post

onyx trail
rustic copper
#

LETS GOOO

inner sonnet
rustic copper
marsh prism
marsh prism
marsh prism
rustic copper
#

you cannot ragebait me

#

I haven't been this hyped for a boss kill in a while

main timber
#

gz

marsh prism
rustic copper
#

every single low pull we got was r1

#

I was locked in today

gentle nova
wicked veldt
marsh prism
wicked veldt
#

think thats the same log it double posted

marsh prism
#

i figured it was just big room disease

#

and one log caught .7hps that the other didnt

narrow ruin
#

I end every fight with 30% 40% mana left

rustic copper
#

no apex users balding

thorn plover
#

sexy log

narrow ruin
#

that's a long fight LOL

rustic copper
#

our paladins kill was 7:45

#

which is like max duration

narrow ruin
#

damn you don't really wg huh?

thorn plover
#

meanwhile my wg is 23%

#

lol

narrow ruin
thorn plover
narrow ruin
#

Damn, are you mana hungry?

wary belfry
#

@main timber ur my second rat

narrow ruin
#

What armor piece should we craft? or it doesn't matter and just pick w/e is your lowest?

plain steeple
#

Generally belt and boots are not available with good stats.
Neck and cloak only from mythic raid final bosses.

#

A chest could give you more stats on the first glance though.

#

So definitely depends on what you got already.

limpid jacinth
narrow ruin
#

👍

tacit ibex
#

why does qe love the crucible so much?

#

it seems like it would be worse

main timber
#

Well the effect gives almost twice as many stats as any other effect

#

So I wonder why you think it would be bad

tacit ibex
#

do you have to be condecending lmfao im asking a question cuz i clearly dont understand why

main timber
#

it's fine, I am telling you why. Ultimately the game does not really tell you how much average stats each thing gives but gearing tools will

#

If you hover over the ? on the trinket chart it'll give you a lot more on each trinket too

tacit ibex
#

okay, it even weighs it higher than the alnseer and a hero 6/6 coaching whistle which just seems wrong

#

okie dokie

main timber
#

Once you have that information the answer is usually a lot more obvious

mortal otter
#

Hey everyone,

I’m looking for some feedback on my healing and would really appreciate your help. I feel like I’m doing okay overall, but I know there’s definitely room for improvement.

Could you take a look and let me know what I should focus on optimizing? Things like spell usage, cooldown management, or anything that stands out as inefficient.

Any advice, tips, or even harsh criticism is welcome — I just want to get better.

Thanks a lot in advance!

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PZ7yzMDnwXjYB2T4?fight=last&type=healing&source=16

covert bramble
#

If I’m picking neck as next craft. Do I skip embellish on that until third craft?

grand herald
# mortal otter Hey everyone, I’m looking for some feedback on my healing and would really appr...

While having someone look over your log is a great way to improve, learning a few key metrics to look out for can enable you to review your own log - even between pulls. I'd recommend picking one of the below that you're not doing well and focus entirely on improving it for a few pulls. Once you're satisfied with it, add a second bullet point. T...

main timber
covert bramble
#

Only piece with mastery?
Not raiding

plain steeple
#

The pvp Quest neck is amazing.

thorn plover
#

Get the free pvp neck?

lament river
#

Free pvp neck ? 😊

slow pasture
#

I heard there's a free pvp neck

rustic copper
#

top public log from paladins is WS garf

#

tech?

lament river
#

How we get the pvp neck ?

cyan minnow
#

do the pvp quest chain

#

12 bgs

lament river
#

Isnt it the quest that tales 4 weeks ?

thorn plover
#

yeah but the 4 weeks is over, you can do it in 2 hours now

thorn plover
lament river
#

Ohh ty alot for info. I might ask stupid but its winning 12 random bgs ?

thorn plover
#

yeah, you can do it in training grounds

#

ez

plain steeple
pulsar kettle
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ws op !

onyx trail
stoic mirage
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If I'm crafting a chest anyway, should I just put my 2nd embellishment on it?

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Sorry for stupid questions and bugging you guys. But you guys are so pro

grand herald
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yes you want 2 emebellishments

stoic mirage
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ty

bright jolt
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do not copy my build

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LMAO

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pretty sure it's grief for what I was doing

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but that boss is pretty easy after nerf

stoic mirage
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I want to grief, teach me your ways

bright jolt
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I would play it differently if I were to do the fight over

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you can lean in pretty heavily to nature's bounty if you want, I also played quite poorly unforch

peak charm
rustic copper
rustic copper
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I have to know

plain steeple
rustic copper
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What do you know

bright jolt
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idk

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I just hit ws thought it might do more apex healing if I'm absorb healing

rustic copper
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To yourself or you were spamming the 5

bright jolt
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uh

plain steeple
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Btw Niko, I have cooked an 12.0.5 build. CatChest

rustic copper
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Yes it’s my build exactly as is

bright jolt
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we didn't assign absorbs other than healers

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so

rustic copper
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And you play it the same

bright jolt
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kinda just random healing

peak charm
rustic copper
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Idk I don’t track that shit

rustic copper
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I regrowth off of vibes