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Alright no need to cook him like that
do you go to the point of using cancelaura or is it just a timing thing?
i pull ^^
i am not cancel auraing at all
Sorry, I'm not following?
Anyone else having mana issues in m+ ?
I'm not
no, mana is not a thing in m+
You re not even half way through your first regrowth cast and you re already mousing over 3 other people
I am having to drink a lot in my 12-13 keys
I assume it doesn't queue up the casts then?
too much rejuv likely
Prob - trying to be proactive and keep the stacks high for when I need to pound regrowths
Spell queue is 1 at a time
Not 7
Can you link the talents? Do you swap certain ones for each fight ?
if i pull chest in vault and have crafted weapon what should i craft now
belt/boots
i ran same talents for every fight last night https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/k1WtzD3pC4q2BNGj?type=healing&boss=-2&difficulty=0&wipes=2
belt/boots
ok ty !
Thanks 🙂
I have HC tier hands already, and HC ommission of light also. Do I take vaelgor's final stare? current trinkets are both champion
my stupid ass upgraded a hero chest 6/6 because i didnt consider crafting one. still the best second option or should i do belt/boots?
i hate on use trinkets so im taking ring there all day lol
i am confused about the chest aren't we recommended to have 5 piece tier on most sites?
taking bis ring any day
no
Chest is awful stats
last question guys in raid talent no more incarnation ?
where the heck are you seeing that
ooh okay thank you ❤️
Both competitive. Play what you like more.
either convoke or incarn are fine. i prefer convoke
ok tyvm !
"most" are playing convoke
I am special so I play tree
rwf rdruid playing tree
ah i am very mistaken i was looking at something else lol
/shrug
was looking at shaman lmao
Belt simmed better for me
wildgrowth fuckin pumps now with 4 set, i didnt expect that much change
maybe im just pushing it more
Im slamming wg on cd and it does do crazy healing now
same, it's great
Had like 19% just on wg on averzian
Vault question. I’m all champion gear only chest tier, 2 catalyst charges. According to qe my best options are veteran tier head which I have a champion non-tier, hero non-tier shoulders, and hero ring which is the same ring I have at champion level. It has the veteran tier head as the top pick. Is that right so I can catalyst my 4 piece so I can farm charges? I do have way too much crit right now.
Yeah I had 19% on my NCrown kill
I could with the first charge catalyst the champion head I have now and replace the veteran I guess.
What would you suggest as the resolution?
Just slow down casting?
'-'
Have your cursor over the frame of the person you want to Regrowth
At the appropriate time
Then you move it after
You seem to cast Rejuvs fine on the people you wanna Rejuv
Why would Regrowth be any different
myth 1st boss
5.5 wg cpm lol
i took niko and kaelons advice and am trying to go regrowth heavy
As seen in QE live our best embellishments by far is Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt. Does this mean that the best combo is to get an one hand and craft an offhand to place hunt there?
its amazing
if you want to spend double crests, sure. most are crafting 2h with hunt, and arcanoweave off piece
Just to clarify, was it worth taking Embrace of the Dream for m+? If so, what do we switch out?
Surely not any of the apex talents, right?
oh i thought it might be because it sounded kinda good
it did for a minute last night, but after it felt sooo good. like i was regrowthing quite a lot more than i normally would. saving rejuv for tree and movement
Im going to try it with tree, it could be quite good
im sure it would be
I have a terrible vault, the options are myth one hand or socket. That's why i am struggling
Instant regrowths would be crazy
send pics
i was sending a few insta regrowths, especially during vorasius intermission and it went crazy
Yeah I ll be doing vorasius this week and see if it works better than the usual playstyle
yeah sorry about your luck. id go cape or socket here personally
another socket friend
i cried with socket on week 1

tru
My guild disbanded earlier today. What a thing to happen so early in the season 😭 At least vault was good.
Thanks, i ll go cry too and come back soon
In QE, is there a place that actually shows my HPS ? I find it hard to compare different sets of gear
I was expecting a simple
Gear Option A : 152k
Gear Option B : 151k
But I just seem to have +0.2% -456 and maybe i'm dumb but when I want to compare multiple thing it gets confusing
lm looking to improve if anyone can provide critique
thats not a thing for healing
Send log
Easier to judge
Ah sorry
Not really tbh. Healing depends entirely on the scenario, it will never stay the same
There's even a big difference from heroic and mythic raiding
I get that, but the tool already let me sim gear to pick the highest HPS option
Well it's not really simming. Not in the traditional sense at least
its telling you whats best based on how much weight stats carry
hmm, so maybe my question is bad
I'm wondering should I send my crest on Belt + Bracer + Back, or something else. Is this something QE is able to give insight with ? I was expecting to add those options in my Best Gear section and see the comparison
add them all, and click them and "convert to vault"
then it will only pick one
Yep.
For example I "simmed" my vault earlier and it told me to get trinket even though it's not my best item from that vault. But that's because I had a very weird middle ground on my trinket and none of them were Hero.
Crucible might also be hard to sim, especially with the nerf
swiftmend cpm is low, wg cpm is low, too much rejuv, not enough regrowth. lifebloom uptime is decent
Looking at the vorasius hc log.
Too many lb cpm. Seems to me like you re refreshing lb way before its needed.
Too low cpm on swiftmend. Its very important to cast swiftmend on cd.
Cast wg on cd.
Too many rejuvenations and not enough regrowths.
We ve become quite good at this lol
i can almost send the message before looking at the log atp
Because of low swiftmend cpm, reforestation uptime is low.
Yeah Its a lot of the same mistakes happening
Fixing these mistakes gets you 90 logs easily
thats what i did yesterday
i had only clicked SM 5 times in a fight... whereas last night i did 48 clicks and hit a 96 parse
surely this is wrong? cres beating gaze?
Ty all is there a CPM ratio I should’ve aiming for when I do RG compared to Rejuv? I try to spam RG when I’m at 12 stacks but I miss it a few times it seems and keep Rejuv up instead
why should i craft belt or boots for exemple if i wanna craft wrist ?
1:1
because boots/belt are higher stat slots.
wrists is a very low-impact slot
wrists are farmable with proper stats
from m+
the algethar ones
there are no haste/mast boots/belt
Spam until you re under 8. Even at 6 its fine.
ah yes ty !
who do yall keep lb on in raid? i feel like tanks dont take enuff dmg
Thank you! Ah that was my question, soften times if dip to 11 or 10 I do more rejuvs*
yourself
really now
That way you control efflo positioning
you can regrowth down to like 6 stacks
easily
how is algethar now after the nerf?
Man I’ve been missing out!
wow i hadnt been casting LB on myself either
im not claiming this is perfect, but i invite you to compare to this log https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/k1WtzD3pC4q2BNGj?fight=39&type=healing&source=6
I agree with self LB but it does add mental load to me personally
macro it to yourself
i have LB macro to myself in raid, no thinky
yeah same
I just meant for positioning, thinking about moving to optimize
dont think about optimizing when you re not logging >90
i dont think about it, just dont be off in jupiter
You need to learn the fundamentals first
Youre right I over think it a bit and sometimes miss my casts
My last piece of crap blue gear are boots. It’s so annoying
That’s creating crazy overheal, kills your symbiotic and leech healing on yourself and will waste potential HPS that is required on for example your tanks.
I would only do this if your tanks are not standing in the group (e.g. on dragons).
Does this mean you don’t macro LB to yourself in m+?
no
tank in m+
lb who needs healing
there is no set and forget target for it
yeah im sure this is very correct
something ill work on as i get more comfortable
In m+ it's on me or tank 99% of time
omg this is such a good idea
I do move it around in m+ to whenever needs it, and if no one needs it I send it to tank or myself. Raid feels more confusing but this has helped.
my tank gets clapped in m+, its basically perma on him
its not optimal, but it helps mental load while learning
as kaelon mentioned, lots of LB overheal
Tanks getting clapped are usually skill issue
correct
Not kiting stacks, not pre walling abilities, dps not kicking
Moving it in m+ is really useful. Move lb to person in danger and spend sotf to trigger many blooms is a big single target save
My bro is a pretty high rated bm and when I roll with him I legit barely heal him
And what does this matter for your decisions as a healer
What are your thoughts on playing the regrowth playstyle with tree instead of convoke?
Vs the dh pug taking 1 million dps
I certainly dont refuse to heal the tank just cuz they're a little worse at cd management than the tank I had 3 keys ago
So like why is this even a talking point

I'm not sure honestly. Regrowth is bound to right click, Rejuv to left. I'm not sure if the actuation is different or I'm just being too hasty. I'm using Danders Frames binds. I may switch to see if its an issue w/ input lag.

If it’s a pug tank…I play street fighting style to get the job done. Not pretty but effective.
If it’s a friend - they’re getting blasted in voice.
Acquaintance? Probably not making it to friend list
Dude... watch your vod
You dont spaz your mouse around when you're rejuving
It's just... don't do that
What party frames are yall using for m+? I am using default but there must be something better.
Danders frames
Grid2
Both good
Ty gamers
I like the aura designer for better hot visualization. That being said with empowered rejuvs I still use default icons to make sure I'm not overlapping my empowered hots
Also been liking implant a lot over twin blossoms despite twin being the preferred pick
yeah i take implant there too
Partly it's leftover from TWW
Twin was better last season
Implant is definitely better healing now. Twin does add some damage 
None but I do miss the cursor glowy sparkles trail weakaura
Yeah I'm gonna check some out see if any of them is pretty enough
It was nice to finally get a non crit hero neck through the PvP quest 🙂
I use combination of clique and macros. It's all preference you could play at a high level w mostly default ui
Many do
I mean look at nicks ui looks like he made his character 30 minutes before raid
Clique is really good imo
i just use mouseover macros for everything
never tried clique or anything like that
I am really struggling to get good numbers in raid. Despite being the best geared healer. We have a super good resto Shaman and Disc priest who top the charts. 90-100k. I've been struggling to get 70k.
I use it to have two different abilities on the same keybind
Questions about Wild Growth. Do we send it on pull. Or hold it until we have 6 abundance?
but that's just because im weird
This used to tank your fps
Clique is what works for me really well. It was my number 1 addon when the apocalypse started where if they were going to break clique I was not going to play.
https://questionablyepic.com/resto-druid/common-mistakes/ try this, and if you havequestions come back and ask 🙂
While having someone look over your log is a great way to improve, learning a few key metrics to look out for can enable you to review your own log - even between pulls. I'd recommend picking one of the below that you're not doing well and focus entirely on improving it for a few pulls. Once you're satisfied with it, add a second bullet point. T...
It's nice to avoid models as a mouseover macro taking you out when you didnt mean to use that spell
wg doesnt have anything to do with abundance. send WG on cooldown
really? would love an explanation for that lol
ive never heard that before
done it this way since tbc
I used Clique alot even before Midnight, but then Cell came around and it didn't work with Clique. But then Cell ended up not working as good anymore this expansiona and now I use Clique again
I still hate the fact that Cell doesn't work 
belt craft is the way ?
chest if you didnt pull haste/mastery chest from vault
or possibly if you full sent hero crests on one ig
Does KOTG M+ build have better healing output than WS in dungeons? Realise WS is far better for dps
No ws does more healing
Thanks i thought so
chest ?? rly ?
Read pins
Should we be running Tree or Convoke in raid?
Far better for dps is crazy talk
aight ty
Either are competitive. Most are playing convoke because of how well it lines up.
I just find convoke easier to use ngl
Thank you, I think I will try convoke next week. Been doing tree this whole time and it feels like I'm not getting the most out of it
I use it in M+ and I feel the same.
Hey sorry to bother with another log review, am i a case of "less rejuv more rg" ?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/AMKRwYxrWdf8yh3p?fight=26&type=healing&source=17
Convoke in m+ for sure
I hope nobody is using tree for m+
lolol
I'm just frustrated because there's such a disparity between my m+ healing and raid healing. m+ feels great and my raid is aggressively fine, our holy paladin is pumping heals
Do convoke, reforestation puts you into tree like 70% uptime
Ok calm down

Convoke has more to it than Incarn as far as decision making in raid, I wouldnt say it's easier
Incarn itself probably is worse but I think the main 'feature' is it should allow you to drop MS and thus gain another healing amp talent
For m+ is VI worth taking or would it always be Prosperity?
VI
I'm team VI in both
I think VI players in m+ are heathens
why lol
Prosp is goated with the sauce and there's no constant healing pressure so your globals outside of damage mechanics being 2 extra rakes or refreshing lifebloom and an extra rejuv more often is a meaningless distinction
Yup I did, my chest is set piece 276 6/6 hero, my belt is actually 250.. So, in that case, probably good to craft belt right ? So I don't waste so much crests
Pooling 2 Swiftmends for one damage event, meaning also 2x Renewing Surge which leads to a 3rd Swiftmend earlier than a VI user would get their 2nd. Goated with the sauce.
should we prioritise spending soul of the forest on rejuvs or regrowths?
Situational
Is there a quick rule of thumb?
It seems to be simply a bit less output than convoke.
Convoke itself is always around 10-12% for me - follow up heals not even included.
I‘d only use it if major movement is required all the time. Even then it’s questionable.
Heavy damage incoming - regrowth, slow rot - rejuv
Mkay i can work with that 
Sotf rejuv is good for stacking abundance fast as well, so good for ramps
Yes
what sauce
Jalapeno ranch is my favorite sauce
Mushroom sauce
i prefer chipolte
Should I put LB on a ranged for aoe Efflo healing and bloom splash on a fight where the tank is separate from the raid, like Dragons?
I would but in that situation I'm running the apex less build for the fight anyway
Rycn is playing tree over convoke for everything I heard
Mind blown, do you have a link to your build?
maybe it’s just a comp thing
It's the one from wowhead, just look at the apex-less option under raid healing ☺️
Thank you
How many seconds remaining on LB should I refresh it? Is it under 4 seconds? 3?
under 4.5
2/4pc right now with 2 cata charges waiting. QE says to pick litany; my legs are already hero track tier but the option to pick Myth track legs to convert into tier piece is tempting. Heroic reclear tonight with a semi decent chance to get at least one tier piece. What would your course of action be here?
I was made aware of it in Nerub-ar Palce. When you hover frames and it has to detect if you're hovering a frame or not with the ingame macro system, it used to drop your fps when you hovered back and forth between teammate - non teammate
hey guys, is there a way to set custom countdowns of convoke / tranquility for boss fights?
and it stopped doing that when I switched to Cell
I can't see how this would be any different than hovering over and clicking. It still needs to know what you're hovering over to click it
Me neither, but it was a thing
Cool lore
Anyone use the raid no apex build? How is it
Yes. Good
The log I shared you is no apex
It's not going to magically make you better or anything.
Interesting. Better? Or about the same
It's better but relies on better play
Yeah, that makes sense. I will gotta fix other things unrelated but that’s good to know ty
need some help here: i completed the final training questline, now should i choose the neck or replace one of my rings? ilvl before stats?
Neck 100%
Stats are most important on jewelry ilvl doesnt matter as much
Rings are farmable in m+
should i pump my myth crests into the neck piece even tho its pvp gear?
It doesn't take myth crests
hero i mean
Also being PvP gear doesn't matter there.
okay thanks!
It's not the first piece you should max out. But you can send hero crests on it yes.
Should have enough crests almost to max everything at this point
like have an addon call out when to use your abilities? you need MRT or NSRT.
cap is 300 buddy
Should be done next week
60 crests to take each piece from 266 -> 276, you have 3 crafted items and a myth piece from vault at most, that's still 10-12 pieces to upgrade
600 crests minimum
Myth Final Grade or 4 set?
I didnt craft yet
have you done LFR/normal/heroic raid yet
Not this week
if you get a single tier piece it guarantees 4pc. i would run the raid and see what you get before taking vault.
yeah youre right, im a bit farther away than i thought. i have 12 upgrades left to send on hero, so 240 crests
2 weeks
if you get 4pc, you can take the myth weapon and spend sparks on other upgrades
if you dont, you can take tier from vault and craft myth weapon
i havent been tracking my upgrades but im 271 i think
Ye i got 3
use cata charge on wtv. get 4 set. more cata charges drop unlimited
my advice is better
sparks will drop unlimited-ly after u acquire 4 set
he cant get 4 set this week if he takes myth weapon and doesnt get a tier piece from raid
you told him to take final grade, where is the 4pc coming from?
for final grade to drop on myth track is another big gamble
3 is distinctly lower than 4
he alrdy has 3 pce he said
no
+3 cata charges
he has 3 cata charges and no tier
This 😄
idk normally myth track weapon beats off everything
Crafted with embellish gotta be awful close
cuz if u myth raid , myth set will still drop from that
myth wep frm mythic+ only drops in weeekly vault
so big big gamble not taking it
im not planning to myth raid
Is it worth crafting 1h if I have a myth off-hand in vault? My other options are poop
he can get the best of both worlds if he just runs the raid and gets a tier piece drop
i think only if that vault is the best stats fr you
then he can take final grade from vault
ye i mean im not superduper pro so
It's haste mastery OH. I have two crafted items, was hoping for a weapon 😄
can someone help on how to heal in raids? usually have around half the healing of other healers , i thought the general consensus was to use wild growth on cd, spam rejuvs til 8-9 and then spam rewgrowths while having lifebloom up constantly and using swiftmend on cd
why 8-9 abundance? why not 12?
Read the pins, specifically the common mistakes link. Review your logs . If you still have questions feel free to come back and ask with logs
gotcha thanks
dang thats a good one. i mean then prob just do the main hand craft haste mastery . cuz all bis list showing 1h and off as final bis
i got 1h CritMast in vault so ill be crafting staff instead
You're 80 crests behind taking 1h, so if you don't care about that then sure
Would this matter even though I have the haste-mastery OH on myth track?
You still have to upgrade it
Any engineers? Can you confirm the eng crafts cannot have regular embellishments? Just the special eng ones right
oh true. My brain 
I can check this, stand by
ty
Good evening, I'm not sure which trinket to choose, since I only do MM+. In my chest, I have Litany of Lightblind Wrath (item level 256), Heart of Wind (item level 272) (currently equipped as a Champion), and Glorious Crusader's Keepsake (item level 259). Which one would you choose, please? 🙂
Litany is so awkward now, I'd take the HoW, but that's purely opinion and I don't enjoy on use trinkets
You cannot put normal embellishments on engineering items, if you place a crafting order.
Yeah perfect
I crafted full haste engi boots without embellishment.
I could add the eng ones but they are really bad
is that the ones youre talking about? the double stat ones?
Just craft boots without embellishment and two other items with embellishment.
Thank you !
Yeah iirc it’s 120 haste now for me on boots.
yeah, theres no engi items with spell effects idt
i dont think so, just single stat
Hi, just a little question, do we have an option to integrate the crystals to heal on Midnight falls with Danders?
What is this then
Wdym
That's the missive slot
There are engi embellishments
Or like on-use type things, brez, invis, mega jump
Same as usual
im not following what voulk is asking then
It was an embellishment question
oh nevermind i misread completely
yes you can only put engi embellish on engi items
The answer is just "yes, yes"
can confirm
Im guessing, however, that none of these are in use by anyone
theyre all pretty trash lol
they cant give engi anything cool or it will be BiS in PvE like it was for ~4 or more expansions
yeah my raid leader telling me i needed to max engi my first day on wotlk classic with no funds
get real kid
Lol yep
What's the "exceptional spell" now?
Tranq
Convoke casts tranquility now? 1 tic?
1 tick
Pvpers are the target audience of engineering now
kk ty ❤️
this week can craft any additional item if we already crafted the weapon before?
Yes
I was considering an eng crafted item just for the haste. Feels crappy to play at my current levels.
first row is only hero, second mythic... I guess Heart of wind?? or head and convert to set?
Head and set if you don't have 4 piece
i have 4 piece
Then trinket
i guess heart of wind it is, ty guys
Ribbon heroic might be a contender there
True
yeah but i can kill crown on hc
But heart mythic should perform better
and maybe get it there
Do u want my chest and I get urs? 🙂
Boots there are good
i was unlucky last week already, so no thanks 🤣
Very nice pair of boots
almost same as me except i got bifurcation instead of echo
Last week I got gaze normal kekw
my boots rolled leech tho
Should i take 2h weapon if i Crafted 2h already or should i take the upgrade from Normal to Hc Vaelgor's Final Gaze. Sim says 2h weapon only is better with to other embellishments (In 2 weeks).
boots and ring are kinda low budget slots it seems like, not very exciting 
What do I take here? Hands and catalyze?
Take any other myth item eventually you want myth weapon but i wouldnt prioritise it since your crafted one vs myth has tiny less value
Yup seems the only choice
@grim garden thx
Cheers
prerequisite to craft chest after weapon is having a 4 set without the chest slot I assume?
Ya tier chest is trash
And we only have 2 other options, only from m+
Suck to sit on hero chest for long, so it's a good craft
i have a champion set chest
OK I got a question lil treents. Who should I put my green line to(Symbiotic Relationship)? nr1 Tank nr 2 Squisy DPS
but without it I wont fulfill 4set
Get cata charges and catalyze something else
any tips on last boss windrunner's spire? The restless heart. HPS requirements get spicy with the dot on 14, not sure how to manage a 15. Should people clear stacks between the jump over the wave thingie?
true they are farmable anyway, good call ty
theres a lot of msg but did anyone post in the last hour regarding coloring lifebloom health bar in grid2? did they manage to do it?
been slacking with the M+ all the tier is hero, the raid stuff is champ 4 which should i go with? (have tier shoulders from last week)
what is better to craft other than weapon?
Chest can be fine for stats if got other tier pieces
i was thinking about chests but there are 2 from m+
is it possible to bloom lifebloom swiftmending with under 4seconds or would that just add time
Boots or belt can be hard to get good pieces on and are reasonable stats
with haste mastery
285 > 276
boots crafted seems to be a solid recomendation
i guess some versa its not bad either
did they nerf the AA healer trinket from 350 to 207?
Squishy dps usually
In aoe situationz
Wrist and cloak are likely end game pieces, but less powerful now
is it still good?
you are not wrong my friend
QuestionablyEpic has a good trinket chart.
Should be somewhere in the lower mid pack now.
Lazy raid prep - which of the fights look to be convoke or tree, apex or non apex? Will absolutely accept answer in the form of being taught how to figure that myself
Both work
Convoke lines up really nice everywhere
There's no right answer
Same for talents. No apex is better but relies more on playing correctly
Fair, I’m trying to think which fights are best to try it out on and see the best of those options, so far I’ve just done tree with and without apex this tier
matter of preference, i prefer convoke to tree especially with reforestation and potent enchantments you end up with it active 15% of a fight or more
Is there a reason why my haste keeps changing
I swear sometimes its at 34% and sometimes it goes to 35%
just being idle btw
are you a nightelf
Day time night time
racial is day crit night haste
Touch of elune yeah
Night elf inting playing during the day
Ikr
I cant make up my mind.. i did craft a cloak in first week, and now i got 4 set and Hero gear on everything. Should i craft wrist or should i go for a weapon craft what would u go for (i got 266 in all non gear slots)
if you still have no myth weapon and you can make one, you make one
Although careful what you change to. Once you go troll you never reroll
Crafting a cloak week 1 is a choice
that is what im thinking too. but would u go 1 handed or the staff? i guess its dosnt matter.
it does matter and you'd go staff
Staff saves you 100 crests
yeah not rly sure what i was thinking. kinda brainfarted that one
80 crests
M+ is raid can be higher
Does embrace have any diminishing ? Like if you have rejuvs on all 20 people will embrace also hit full number amount on all 20 people?
technically it only "saves" you 60 crests because when you get another staff you still need to upgrade it to 289
so thats 20 you have to spend later
True
you still need to upgrade 1h/oh separately right? or was that a bug? if i have a 285 2h i can make 1h/oh 285 for free?
Separate still. I have 285 staff, and the 1h I have still costs crests
What is the best to go for the Emellishment? Is "Darkmmon Sigil: Hunt" still the best one?
I know this isn't resto related Per Se but anybody else having problem with the default ui boss abilities not showing up in combat?
I have it enabled but it just won't show up
Maybe an option un DBW or Bigwigs
i don't use that
I play default ui and everything shows up

theyre calling it the worst vault in wow history
Dont judge me
It's kinda annoying tbh
That is absolutely re-vault-ing to look at
Nothing wrong with catalyzing myth gloves
Then if no addons, settings in edit mode and gameplay settings
The right one is okey
Myth ones?
no but is it worth using a catalyst just to keep 2 set ?
when im one piece away from 4set if i take the head
Wait.. is boss warnins and boss abilities the same thing? Because it only started happening when i changed from the timeline to the bars
Does anyone using Vuhdo know how we can track debuffs that are not dispellable? It doesnt seem to work from the panels tab auras subtab
You should have 3 catalyst charges
i have 2 but ive done nothing this week
So you have 2 piece and 2 charges?
yes
i somehow got a charge from a m+ dungeon
Once you have 4 piece they drop from bosses
idk i thought that would be sub optimal
You will loot plenty charge when you gain 4 pieces
No you want 4 piece asap
It's weird because I thought i couldn't get a new one this week
for 4set
I already catalysted 3 pieces
Get 4 piece asap so you can farm charges. Then you just cata better pieces as you get them
ok awesome
Oh so it's intentional. That's actually a nice change. Because I already catalysted 2-3 pieces, and I still have 2 left
I got 4 charges yesterday alone from raid
oh damn
Catalyzed random hero leech gloves I had just because
Tertiaries stay though cata now
is it troll to instantly 6/6 the piece
I guess it's so people won't have to wait an entire week if they for example go from veteran to hero
im so sad about my vault this week =_= it says the best choice is a hc cloak...so all 3 of my mythic choices are poopy...what you think? https://gyazo.com/73aa4675699f8cb8dd86c2fb46551c4b if anyone has input 🥺
the is probably the worst ive see ntoday
😂
Did you max upgrade the boots and check if it catalyzes to anything worthy
Cuz it goes haste crit which isn’t the worst thing in the world
did not try that, dunno how to add such item to the questionably epic thingy
since i dunno the name of the catalyst version
Rootslippers of the luminous bloom
thanks ❤️
You can right click it and push catalyze
On vault items
I think atleast. Or I dreamt that
in the top gear, there's a little cogwheel on each item you add and it should have catalyze as an option in there
yes found it thanks 😄 it simmed better, so it was salvageable haha
how reliable is questionably regarding dungeon simming , specially for trinkets ?
questionably epic*
guys which item should i choose? i can get hands and turn it into set piece or use trinket. I have champ heart of wind and crusaders keepsake trinkets.
like f.e alnseer LFR sims higher then hero feather .. off strinket is heart of wind mythic , is alnseer really THAT good ?
That stuff is just based on average stat amount so you can trust whatever result you get
alright thanks
both are extreamly good
Hello, what is the pve crafter gear called?
How bad is the Gaze nerf?
Gaze nerfed?
thats why i cant decide 😄 idk what to do im noob
internal global cooldown fixed on 26th
Its still top trinket
Thought it's some extra nerfs. Just got it this morning so i wouldn't be surprised
If they extra nerf it
Do I take the mythlegs or the 1hander (Crit vers)? Feels like taking the myth pants and crafting 2hander with mastery and haste is the play yeah?
Myth tier whistle is really good for m+, if that's your jam. I'd be really tempted to get that personally
yea im only playing m+, and i have a unholy dk friend also he would like that 😄
Yes
Catalyst charges are now infinite
does anyone know how the effective HPS Value of Light of the Cosmic Crescendo is calculated on QE? does it include the 150% increased healing value or not? or is it trying to mediate by picking some realistic middle ground?
It includes the full 150% because it's very hard to not hit 5 targets with it
aight, thank you
Could I get a quick recomendation for some M Voidspire VoDs?
youtube/@vrocas_
Thanks friend
Hi guys do you have any useful macro for Heart of the wild?
Only for tier, but maybe a Voulk wishlist for it to work on all catalyze-able pieces too, since we can farm those suckers in m+ now
What trinket combo should i go with ? i also have whisper in bags. QE says the once i have equipped now. but not sure if its updated after the buffs/nerfs on trinkets yet
Not the worst in the world tho, all the catalyze-able pieces have the same name, Luminous Bloom
Good comms
qe is updated. you may want to do a hard refesh on the site and set it up again though
Out of the three, first two if you upgrade the first one
yeah i have the four first atleast in the quest trinket
hmm bit confused
why does this work
but pic 2 doesnt work, the lines look like they connect to me
That WG talent needs 2 points
You’re missing one point in the wg talent
ahh I cant just 1 point it to skip ok makes sense cheers
Hey everyone, in the world of toxicity, I want to say thanks everyone in this channel! I once posted my log here and people immediately gave me the link for the common raiding mistakes guide, I fixed most of the mistakes, got some pretty decent hps and was able to clear my very first aotc. Cast uptime and abilities uptime is a no joke, audio alerts help a lot! Thanks again!
good work
Great work! Thanks for doing that and not just calling us unhelpful assholes
Good learning experience doing your own analysis
i love tricking other healers into playing dps during heroic reclear...
I hope we drop a healer. We 4 healed yesterday and it was so boring
i begged them to drop to 3 for myth imperator reclear... it was so boring.
instead they told me to go owl and brought in another healer ):
Hey guys, i just realized our spells also healing Treants, but im not sure if same happening in m+? Do my big heals heal my full HP Treants instead of party members?
it should only target them if players are not in range or also full hp. remember sotf is only a 20 yard range
okay, thank you!
Can anyone help me set a border or a sort of glow when lifebloom is about to expire on the party frame ongrid2? I've got the one from qelive, it does show number countdown but it just applies to a txt whilst I would likea border/healthbar change color
Ran into that when making the HoTTracker add-on, couldn't figure out how to account for it, but then couldn't find a single log where it happened
oh i guess I just had to tick the border
Is emberwing feather myth good (have htw champ and vaelgor champ)? Because the alternative is myth bis weapon (have 2H crafted one) or nexus crit haste (still have veterans)
Though I am not a fan of 2x on use trinkets
hi, is it possible that regrowth into swiftmend quickly, soft proc uses the regrowth i jst casted? not sure how to word it to make it make sense
thought i was schizo ty 💯
heart and vael are basically the same... can just use feather/heart
if you queue a swiftmend instantly after a regrowth it consumes sotf on that previous regrowth
they said they fixed it... but... lul
ye makes sense now that ik, i thought iwasnt getting soft proc at all
Same
WOAH nerf druid
ye is nice was just confused at first
are there any alternatives to WA that works with announcing MRT cd timers?
or anything similar
we swapped to nsrt
what do we think of Nevermelting Ice Crystal as resto for raiding?
https://www.wowhead.com/item=50259/nevermelting-ice-crystal
awful
its near the worst
That's what I thought 🙁
where do i find this list?
Optimize your healers gear using cutting edge math and theorycrafting.
big ❤️ for you
im having truble healing raid, any tips ?
theres lots of stuff in the guides in the pins
biggest thing is just don't ever stop casting
spam rejuv ?
spam all the things
Spam regrowth
mana goes poof
That’s why you press regrowth
If your mana is gone it means you didn’t press regrowth
aha, need to work on my rotation than
Regrowth is amazing
based
We have it now. Everyone that comes in here asking why they're oom is playing it
I miss fast regrowth casts
They're instant, it's even better
Hello what second craft and embalishment did you guys do?
arcanoweave chest/belt seem to be the most common
Chest arcanoweave unless you got extremely lucky and got a haste mastery myth chest from vault
Then you can consider belt
got the myth legs haste mastery from my vault belt then or make the legs a set and craft chest?
I have crafted 2h weapon, what do you recommend for me to craft?
Read pins
Ty
What did Kaze WA do before? Just read your mrt note to you at the right time?
How deranged would shoulders craft be after chest 
this non 4p is sending me
you should do it. and then have enough people copy you that they buff the set
I have a question about these logs timings. given the timing on Convoke at the start, can I make a general assumption they are LB, Rejuvs, and have already proc'd Refo prior to the start of the pull? Meaning.. they are already ramped when dropping Convoke on pull.
Imagine not wearing the op helm
Just so you can have 10% mana reduction on wg
Private logs
Or I’d be r1 every boss
The dispellable debuffs at chimaerus are a private aura. The standard ui apparently puts a blue border around the corresponding raid frames when someone's affected by it. I'd like to achieve the same with grid2, but I don't know how... does anybody know? I'm handy with grids indicators and statusses, but I haven't found out how to assing private auras correctly to a border indicator.
Why wouldn’t you prep hots pre pull, I’d think they are doing that
For embelishment crafting for Arcanoweave Lining, does it matter if the embellishment off the AH is gold tier or silver tier to craft 285?
I mean I do.. I'm just asking to understand the logs is all.
worse mats are harder to craft with. so its all on the crafter
New to resto getting better it's fun :
You can check the logs individually if you wanted but they def are preramping
Word. I'm not extremely well versed in navigating them to perfection, so I just wanted a sanity check. It seemed illogical to me.
Any advice? Haste/Mastery wrist. vers/haste boots. vers/mast boots. QElive says vers/haste boots but even though wrists are garbo is getting the haste/mastery locked in gonna be better long term?
Ouch
Guys Gaze or Ribbon ? for raid and m+ ?
Yes
Ok.. I see now. I am looking at the timeline / buffs. Now I see everything he had rolling "on pull". Preshate ya!
what do u think perrformance Gaze or Ribbon ? for m+ and raid ?
We haven’t killed yet but i want the op helm and i dont know who else would want it
im not breaking 4p for that
maybe like last week of season fully bis'd out
they should let us choose stats on tier
I'll just say it
best 2 for raid ? and m+ ?
try QE live
sim it
MRT had timeline reminders already built in, but it was just a timeline/text alert iirc
Kaze provided near-infinite customization to the alerts and added TTS
guys do u think that crafting the feet are good choice? cause is the piece with lower itemlvl that i have...
Ah ok. MRT always had TTS too. Just asking because I had to help some others set up mrt to yell at them last night, but it's the way I've always done it lol
didnt know that
boots are a solid choice, yes
I was so confused when they were saying that mrt couldn't do it without Kaze, and I'd never heard of Kaze before lol
you can always manually add the crafted pieces youre choosing between to sim your options in QE live. convert them all to Vault items and it will only choose the best one
i never heard TTS from MRT before so its news to me too
could never get their reminders module working at all without Kaze
You have to click on every single "note" on the timeline and turn it on
Which is only like 5 things for us, but still
we swapped to NSRT this season
i honestly like it way more even though it has fewer features and its very barebones
do i have to use reforestation tree proc with every convoke i use?
planning all my CDs in wowutils is very easy
Definitely should be trying to sync those up
qelive say chest>boots
sooo i think im gonna go for the chest
guys what food I need to eat to recover mana on m+?
Cook it or buy from AH
It's like 1g each
Or if you're cheap, mage food from follow dungeon is free
5%/sec
im wondering at what key level i should use avoidance enchants and/or equip more vers or if its not going to make a noticable difference out side of the 0.1% of players
guys I crafted my 2h weapon and I have 2 spark left. Wanted to craft a ring because mine is 163 ilevel but I didnt find a haste ring to craft ? and I cant put the missiv because I used on weapon I guess ?
Whenever bear form is not enough to survive
Anyone here using Elvui? Today all of a sudden every single debuff is showing on the raid frames even though debuffs is toggled off.
fair enough, i guess that's on me to figure out
theres definitely rings you could do... but its not the best option
what's the best ?
also QE live doest work for me I get this error and didnt find a solution
are you wearing cloth?
i don't have type of item in my tooltip so idk
oh yeah my robe is cloth
it's bad ?
yes
you have to be wearing leather
you get 5% flat mainstat for wearing all the right armor type for your class.
you lose a ton of main stat if all of your gear isn't
with druid, thats leather
damn it worked thanks
so what would you advie me to craft next guys ?
I'm full noob
Any wholesome chungi in chat rn?
you said you crafted weapon, but you aren't using it?
nah I got 250 leather chest
I am now ty
X - shaman , resto druid reroll :
crafting for your current gear is generally going to be a bad choice. you can farm ilvl 266 out of m+... you can make 246 rings using vet crests without hurting your later progression
and I have 2 manaflux should I start getting some of the 4set thing ?
if you're planning to farm keys , just convert to your 4 set and start looting more
Hi, what would you say what are the absolute best BiS Trinkets for Resto Druid?
I am checking the guide on Wowhead and Icy Veins but one of the trinket differs from one another.
Wowhead:
Locus-Walker's Ribbon
Vaelgor's Final Stare
vs
Icy Veins:
Locus-Walker's Ribbon
Gaze of the Alnseer
So I assume Locus-Walker's Ribbon is a must have. Between the two: Vaelgor's Final Stare one Gaze of the Alnseer, which one shall I aim for 2nd trinket?
if im using arcui; how would i get the buff from 4 swiftmends to show? I'm trying to find the buff but since i dont have incarnation talents, i have convoke, it's not showing.
some druids are starting to play boomy spec in keys, any thoughts?
by boomy spec i mean they take bk form and spam starfires, they still are resto from what i understand
which embellishment u guys use for weapon guys?
Yeah it’s not as good as cat but you can do everything in ranged
Less damage in boss overall because feral frenzy pumps so your going a lot of star fire in aoe and wrath in st
I find it pretty gay, i like being in melee more with cat. But idk if it pumps more ill play it
In aoe u do a good amount of dps apparently
My question is do you have to use a Gcd to get into boomy
Is Catweaving Mandatory?
DPSing in Cat Form has been a dominant strategy in Mythic+ for quite a long time, but there are quite a few players who really hate that playstyle. It has been simplified a lot over the years and Fluid Form makes it very efficient to play, but if you've tried it recently and still do not want to do it then you can move the Rip talent point to Starfire, and swap Circle of the Wild to Circle of the Heavens. Note that Moonfire / Sunfire are weak and you will mostly just press Wrath / Starfire instead.
What da heck is Fluid Form?
read your talents
I don't have any talents
Reroll to a different healer if you don’t want to go cat
unforch
Your not my dad
do you get catalyst charges for free each week without doing anything ?
each 2 weeks *
and was this week one of them
u got one today yes
any idea if echo of L'uara is worth taking since i saw 35% healing increased buff
next one is in two weeks, but u can drop them if u have 4p
do u get it automatically ?
not sure, maybe by opening the vault? I had mine when I logged like 10 minutes after I logged I check and it was there
just get 4p of your set then u can farm them by doing whatever
do we have 3 or 4 total
if its 3 then im a slave
i have 2 set and only 1 charge left
💔
go raid finder and press need on everything
same for normal and hc
we have 3 total yes, u were supposed to get atleast 1 part by looting it on raid or vault
any good way to get a visual icon when party uses personal defensives on dandersframes?
Kinda like this:
which is on default frames
Guys I progessed quite a bit since last week, any chance someone look at my logs to see what could be improved ?
Get the Addon „minicc“
The defensive section works perfectly for me.
Great! will look at it 🙂 thanks
You’re welcome.
I had the issue with grid, that I couldn’t see all defensives- just some. Minicc solved it for me.
It works just like i wanted it!
While healing keys do you try to have a high abundance stack? I’m currently doing15-16 and having mana issues if I want to keep rejus running on everyone at all time
Rejuv less. No need to keep them running all the time, only for a little ramp before a damage event
no
Shouldn't need to always have rejuve running. Your team is not stopping enough or slow or bad
Why would you do that
guys real talk if I am almost exclusively having issues with tank damage, is it worth dropping TV for 3x master lifebloom?
you never drop tv
link your talents
just the basic m+ wowhead one
if you're almost exclusively having issues with tank damage it's time to talk to your tank about their gameplay
i can't see a situation where i'd swap a talent out before i asked my tank why they didn't have a defensive active
just bdk things? 
is anyone else having a problem with DF not showing targeted spells well after the update
Exclusively having problems with tank dmg on a resto Druid 
It’s not just bdk things
even worse, that class survives solely through self-sustain and their own defensives
Are you trying to top your bdk
I get this weird bug sometimes that it unlocks the grid2frame so i just drag them for a couple of pixels
any other class i'd say "yeah, it's reasonable that you'd need to heal this class/spec"
You have very little influence on whether your bdk dies or lives
but BDK you should literally be hands off the entire key
yo guys how are you triggering the litany trinket in raid?
in m+ it is clear for me kinda but in Raid it is kinda weird right 😄
or just cast wrath
its procs off of treant moonfire when you spec KotG
unless they hotfixed that
you also normally bring HotW in raid spec
and that consumes all 5 stacks when you press it in cat form
does it
unless i'm insane, i watched my friend do it on stream 20 times last night
we tested every healer spec
the trinket is ultimately only super good for disc/resto druid/mw monk, the other healers it feels clunky/annoying to use
it just doesnt proc off AOE anymore
i should specify in keys
or hits not against the debuffed target.
i was under the impression it only proc'd once from hotw but if what you're saying is true i will just macro it to hotw
it also gets consumed by every stack of teachings when monk presses BoK
so 4 stack BoK just procs the entire trinket instantly
I mean during pulls I have found my self trying to reju/germi everyone prior to the damage. My question was more about abundance stack and if you care at all, do you single reju or germi as well during damage outcome
you're rejuving too much in general. you don't need to have everybody rejuv'd and you don't need to double rejuv every single person
you can do 2x on two people, LB on a third, 4th uses a personal CD and tank just lives
thats only 4 rejuvenation casts, not 10
Thanks bootsy
we're very flexible in how we approach situations like that, and the only advice you can follow for mana is just rejuv less
Watching some of the resto druids pushing 18-19's it feel so wild that they barely babysit tank with hots/regrowths. When applying HoTs are the dps the prio generally? I feel like I would save me so many gcd's in setup if I switch focus from keeping tank alive to having dps more stable
Don't track abundance in m+, you'll just form bad habits
^ yeah i should have added that, you're not rejuving for abundance in keys.
Bad habit in sending too many rejuvs?
Yes
you have Imp Regrowth so you have a 40% base crit chance on regrowth pretty much always, abundance is much less valuable in M+
Pretend it doesn't exist in m+. Passive regrowth buff
im definetly sending too many rejuvs. Regrowth just feels so weak at times if target isnt fully hotted
Yeah H1 I feel the same
thats pretty much all i do
SotF rejuv is +60% which is more than the mastery buff provided by adding germ for an extra global
Do we have any hot snapshotting? Or would wildgroth into sotf rejuv be the same
no snapshotting whatsoever
nice
you could argue empowered rejuv "snapshots" because you can overwrite it with a non-empowered version, but those are technically 2 different spells
ahh yea true
hello what is best trinket for m+ as resto druid ?
gaze of the alnseer
apparently locus-walker's ribbon is also really good but i don't use tempo trinkets like that in keys
Is there a way to get an extra cast bar?
not sure i understand what you're asking. do you want an addon to change the default player cast bar?
I use quartz. It has option to disable blizz iirc so could have 2 if you dont disable
but they would not look the same
I have ElvUI to do that. I want an extra one I can position where my CDM things are
embellishments hunt & arcano weave lining are still the bee's knees?
thanks
and there is a cap haste and mastery to have ?
No cap
Straight facts
You want as much as possible
oh ok thanks
for litany, what spells do you guys cast after activating on use?
rake <_<
is it better than crucible at this point?
thsi trinket is good for us?
Blah, first vault ain't great on the druid ... cloak, offhand or... this ring...? wasn't exactly planning to moonkin this season but... perhaps 🤣 would you guys take this ring over a mythic track cloak for first vault?
Its a very good ring
do you have alternative rings?
Bis ring, bad vault. Yep
this is what i get for not checking bis lists for all my toons before hand 🤣 pleast standby your criticism is important to us ❤️
MASSIVE ring! Now you want the other ring with High Haste and Low Mastery
ty all ❤️ made today a better day, was over here thinkin' blizz was pushing me back into balance spec 🤪
i swear to god
😤
anyone know a good cursor gcd tracker
no need just punch ur buttons harder
Is there any kind of bis blastington smasherino to do with the litany of lb wrath trinket or just normal cat mode stuff
is 38% haste too much?


