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bright swift
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and it did nothing

proven phoenix
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isnt there some overlap you have to beat by killing the ret paladin

bright swift
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but then I don't think that's a tree issue

proven phoenix
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you have to kill the ret so he doesnt cast execution sentence

gentle nova
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they are reworking apex in a month and tree does nothing for apex

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convoke in the other hand will go nuts

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so its a convoke tier in fact

bright swift
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like 4-5%

proven phoenix
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I tried tree on paladins and didnt like it

glass crane
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I checked rycn's logs as tree and this discord would have a lot of different opinions if the rwf guilds public logged

bright swift
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I have seen rycn's logs

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I genuinely don't understand how he plays that

proven phoenix
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I dont understand how rycns build is good, unless he comes in here to tell me how specifically

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he is playing full lb talents

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no apex

rustic copper
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because I heal their absorb instantly xdd

bright swift
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he also plays liveliness

proven phoenix
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yes like

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I dont get it lol

bright swift
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which, if the analyzer is to be believed, is a 2% talent

glass crane
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that's one of the things he values about tree, it is way more mana efficient

primal jungle
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art of the deal

glass crane
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allows you to int pot

bright swift
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i already int pot

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(haste pot)

gentle nova
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you can int pot with voke

grizzled seal
grizzled seal
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Epic brain

livid vapor
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Team, should i go for the gaze or BIS belt? I have Her track Litany of Lightblind Wrath and Volatile Void Suffuser atm

rustic copper
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I was taking int

proven phoenix
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recklessness

grizzled seal
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Recklessness

thorn plover
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id take that chest

rustic copper
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does it have a downside?

gentle nova
grizzled seal
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Minus 200 lowest stat

proven phoenix
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reduces lowest stat I think

gentle nova
proven phoenix
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crit is worthlessa anyway so

livid vapor
grizzled seal
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Is this a haste mastery chest @livid vapor

proven phoenix
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yes

rustic copper
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W

thorn plover
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thats bis chest

proven phoenix
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its the skyreach chest

livid vapor
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Yeah it is

proven phoenix
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oh wait

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no its xenas

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chest

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but ye

grizzled seal
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Ok take it then

proven phoenix
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haste mastery

rustic copper
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crit is not worthless unless you abundance cap ( 🤡 )

grizzled seal
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Nothing to talk about

livid vapor
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aight fuck it boys we pull the trigger on the chest

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cheers

gentle nova
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worthless

bright swift
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i really do wonder if Rycn casts regrowth way earlier than 12

grizzled seal
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How do you even snipe monks on absorbs, I'm genuinely confused

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What's the play there

rustic copper
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sotf ns regrowth

grizzled seal
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That's once

rustic copper
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convoke

grizzled seal
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Then what?

rustic copper
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a 2nd sotf rg

bright swift
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wait you convoke the healing absorbs?

proven phoenix
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im not convoking those

rustic copper
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I do on 1st

proven phoenix
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not until way later into the fight at least

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I convoke the first toll

rustic copper
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my disc is ramping

bright swift
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you can convoke EVERY searing radiance in the entire fight btw

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every single one

grizzled seal
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Be more specific

gentle nova
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fucking disc

rustic copper
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they press evang

grizzled seal
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Insane

rustic copper
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I can try sending it earlier

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but i still fuck the absorbs

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when is your 1st tranq?

grizzled seal
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That's at Vrocas

bright swift
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right now planned on 2nd radiance

rustic copper
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you trying for 3?

bright swift
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and this extends my ramp into the group soaks

bright swift
rustic copper
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yeah

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idr how long the fight is off the top of my head

proven phoenix
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what do u guys tranq

rustic copper
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i'm ngl

bright swift
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I have one back at 7 something yeah

grizzled seal
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To do 3 you need to do one pre 1 min

proven phoenix
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I was just sending tranq on the first toll as well but I dont think thats good

grizzled seal
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Isn't the boss 7:20 max?

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Or am I wrong

bright swift
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shortest kill is 7:24

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longest is 7:46

proven phoenix
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if I get avengers shield silenced on my tranq im just walking off the edge

bright swift
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only 3 public logs

grizzled seal
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Aight

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So 3 tranqs is possible

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2 with pots

bright swift
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but like

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how is this not insane

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convoke is up for every radiance

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it does insane damage

grizzled seal
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Yeah especially now

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Why don't you tranq radiance?

bright swift
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I do

grizzled seal
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Yeah but first radiance will go hard

bright swift
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that's disc evang

grizzled seal
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How do you even tranq your second tranq anyway

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During execution sentences?

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Have you reached that part?

bright swift
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and the second one extends into the mass avengers shields + aoe soaks

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no

grizzled seal
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Ok I'm questioning execution on that (pun intended)

bright swift
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yeah I agree

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it's akward

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but it's not up in time

grizzled seal
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You could move tranqs one up

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Second radiance isn't even dangerous

bright swift
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why not

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oh I see

grizzled seal
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I feel like we had way more deaths on the first toll than on the second

bright swift
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look

bright swift
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only the red ones are dangerous

grizzled seal
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Red?

bright swift
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on wowutils

grizzled seal
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Ok yeah that's how it felt on prog too

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We legit had soooo many deaths on the first toll

bright swift
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we were fine there

silent radish
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is there a way to make the blizzard ui make a noise or something when my lifebloom drops off someone? Ive tride the advanced setting and TTS stuff but it just doesnt make any sounds for me

bright swift
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because we have so many cds there

grizzled seal
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Like every 5th pull someone falls over

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Yeah I'm also a dogshit monk

thorn plover
bright swift
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evang, dream flight and rewind

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and my ramp

grizzled seal
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But that's fine, I'm back to druid

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I'm gonna reck pot that shit with tranq

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20 regrowth ramp

bright swift
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problem is that nothing happens after

grizzled seal
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Why do you care

bright swift
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the healing absorbs are 15 secs after the radiance ended

silent radish
rustic copper
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I consider copying vro's cds

grizzled seal
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Healing absorbs will absorb one healer worth of absorbs less on reset

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They are nuked into oblivion

rustic copper
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and you decide to change it after I tell my group I'm going to try it

grizzled seal
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How far did you get @rustic copper

bright swift
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We really need more cds on the 3rd radiance

rustic copper
soft dagger
grizzled seal
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Holy fuck that's nice

bright swift
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we barely have any pulls

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3 day raiding guild lol

grizzled seal
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Our best was 57%

rustic copper
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I think we are splitting dreamrift this week too

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I love splits

grizzled seal
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Nah we aren't doing that

rustic copper
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7 day guild + day raid W

grizzled seal
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I think it's a waste by this point

crimson sinew
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where there any more trinket changes or is qe accurate

thorn plover
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QE is up to date

rustic copper
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it's so easy

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in theory

main timber
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If you refreshed it's updated

grizzled seal
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Well, we don't have time for that

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I think prog time is more important

bright swift
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trolling?

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how is a 7 day guild on the same boss as a 3 day guild

rustic copper
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we are 5

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4 + maybe a 5th day some weeks

silent radish
rustic copper
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but the answer to why is 3 splits

thick summit
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how many hours for 4 day

crude basin
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im pretty new to how i should gear my character, but i crafted my weapon first week at 259. I have been very unlucky with tier pieces. i dont have any and i dont have any hero track Helm/chest/legs/shoulder pieces. What should i craft next? Do i craft a chest and make it a tier piece?

bright swift
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@grizzled seal you said they overnerfed the boss

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but like

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radiance will still giga hurt

lapis shell
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should I be opening the vault in resto?

bright swift
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depends on a lot of stuff

lapis shell
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for M+ probably balance?

bright swift
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This 3 min radiance is so akward

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nobody has cds for this shit

rustic copper
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we will see when we kill

grizzled seal
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If you die to radiance your healers should uninstall the game

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You can only die to a mechanic during radiance

bright swift
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need to revisit healing cds for sure

grizzled seal
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I mean I am ready to eat my words but I think 6 healing this will look extremely easy post nerfs and crests and shit

bright swift
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ok yeah poptard holds a rewind

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for 3 mins

grizzled seal
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Especially if you vantus it too

bright swift
rustic copper
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I wonder if beloren is going to be hard

grizzled seal
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Most deaths is to either failing mechanics or toll during radiance

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If you die to anything else you are wiping to heroic

proven phoenix
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because 1 mw

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xdd

rustic copper
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I've died to shit I would've dodged

bright swift
rustic copper
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and healers are dying more than everyone else for sure

grizzled seal
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Yes they do

bright swift
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it only happens every 3 ish mins

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revival is up every t ime

grizzled seal
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2:50

grizzled seal
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4 debuffs instead of 8

rustic copper
whole horizon
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@proven phoenix did you ever decide on your apex build for paladins and alleria?

proven phoenix
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the build is just apex

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drop embrace etc

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like legit wowhead build

bright swift
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why apex build

proven phoenix
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I think its good for paladins if you're perma taking absorbs

bright swift
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i don't think it is

proven phoenix
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well maybe not anymore idk

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what do absorbs look like now

bright swift
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you just spam regrowths into yourself

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and it'll be enough

whole horizon
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i just wanted to try it on alleria for p2/p3 mostly to see how it felt

rustic copper
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thoughts?

bright swift
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that's my paladin's job

rustic copper
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we don't have one of those

bright swift
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well we do so

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i don't have to sweat on absorbs as much

rustic copper
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show absorbed healing on your best pull

proven phoenix
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yeah we also dont have paladin

bright swift
rustic copper
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ok nvm

bright swift
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like

rustic copper
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that is crazy you didn't know that though omegakekW

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I was spamming myself on heroic

bright swift
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yeah idk

zealous sequoia
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Is the whistle still good? Qe says to take it from vault, just wasn’t sure what the consensus was on it

crude basin
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im pretty new to how i should gear my character, but i crafted my weapon first week at 259. I have been very unlucky with tier pieces. i dont have any and i dont have any hero track Helm/chest/legs/shoulder pieces. What should i craft next? Do i craft a chest and make it a tier piece? thanks for any advice

rustic copper
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socket might be better too

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if qe is recommending it, it probably means your current trinkets are turbo shit

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but you can just farm some decent ones from m+

zealous sequoia
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I was thinking about sockets too. One sec I’ll post pic

main timber
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You can link the URL

zealous sequoia
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Oh ok thank you

bright swift
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that belt isn't included

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what's the stats

ashen pond
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what trinket do i use guys?

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im clueless

zealous sequoia
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69 crit 44 mastery for belt

ashen pond
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i do both m+ and raid

bright swift
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your vault is shit congrats

zealous sequoia
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Yes lol

rustic copper
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tragic

zealous sequoia
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I must have unclicked the belt by accident, I reran it and it says to take the belt but it just feels like a crap belt

bright swift
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it is

rustic copper
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if I got that vault I'd take a socket

bright swift
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nah I would still take the belt but

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tragic

zealous sequoia
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This is rough lol

peak charm
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How good is [Verdant Infusion] in raid ? i thoughthaving more felxible and higher tree time would be better?

bright swift
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it's very good

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still

rustic copper
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not needing to cast lifebloom 4 times a minute is a pretty big healing increase

bright swift
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yes

scarlet furnace
bright swift
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this feels like an AI comment

tough portal
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Be nice

pulsar kettle
alpine arrow
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my vaults have been blessed

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ribbon on the druid gaze on the monk

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im cooked for the rest of the tier

rocky lodge
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so when do we ever take apex talent @bright swift

bright swift
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In raid never imo

rocky lodge
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valid, will check results after raid tn

half nexus
thorn plover
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i need to drop ms

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NK mythic nerfed

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wtf

keen maple
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Looking for a little advice. Is a heroic gaze worth over a myth haste/mastery chest out of vault? I don't plan to do any mythic raiding. QElive says chest but I know trinkets are high value...i have a vet gaze

rustic copper
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garf @bright swift

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it's like 500% a guardian angle now

bright swift
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No shot man

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That's heroic right

rustic copper
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heroic

bright swift
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Open vault as guardian now lol

hollow burrow
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is there a solid roatation for raid healing as resto?

grizzled pier
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Only have 1 set piece atm, is there any reason not to use all 3 catalyst charges on whatever track I have to get 4 set? I assume you get the additional catalysts quickly enough to use them again on higher tracks when you get them?

scarlet furnace
cyan minnow
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does intensity crit % also apply to the hot portion of regrowth

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any knowers

cyan minnow
gentle nova
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Oh nice

cursive pilot
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this any good

thorn plover
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Yes

cursive pilot
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bet

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which to replace lmao

thorn plover
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Sim it.

cursive pilot
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both same on graph

thorn plover
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sim it for your character

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dont look at the graph

cursive pilot
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what do we use to sim heal ?

grizzled pier
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Check pins

zinc kernel
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Hey guys, Mythic Tier Legs or Mythic Heart of Wind trinket from vault?

tough portal
cyan minnow
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yeah just double checked it does

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putting up a pr to fix abundancy and also track intensity

tough portal
cursive pilot
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dam renown trinket beats all other trinket

cyan minnow
urban bone
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any good trinket tracker addons?

lyric otter
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why is chest recommended to craft? I thought small pieces like wrist is usually recommended because crafted ilvl is lower

main timber
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Late in the tier that's true

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But right now you do not have a Myth-track Helm / Chest / Legs

narrow ruin
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How often do you guys get Catalyst from drop after 4p? i did a few dun but none dropped

cursive pilot
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jus got 1 from vora in heroic

lyric otter
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ah true. i got unlucky with tier and got a heroic tier chest so ill prob just go with boots i guess

rustic copper
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@bright swift

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went guardian and still got 2 completely worthless items

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would've gotten 3 if I went resto garf

plucky flare
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The two myth track trinkets aren’t on any lists. Ring, legs for cata, or socket?

narrow ruin
plucky flare
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Or just grab the recommended?

main timber
gentle nova
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I would do that

golden lava
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Is there some trick to healing the sections in Nexus with the electricity? It seems impossible unless there’s a mechanic I’m missing….

gentle nova
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Not really

plucky flare
gentle nova
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Oh rip

fervent mica
tough portal
high hawk
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which fights in voidspire are yall running apexless?

ember forge
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

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SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO FIX THIS

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I HAVE DISABLED SO MANY THINGS

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lol

tough portal
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Lmao

dry belfry
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holy fuck

tough portal
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Uh type /fstack in chat and mouseover the border, show what it says

dry belfry
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if you have danders he just enabled some shit for private aura borders

ember forge
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this new garbage danders

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i have no idea how to turn it off

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im like so tilted lol

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i tried importing a new profile

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still there

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i mean should i just completely uninstall and install again

tough portal
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Should be this

ember forge
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if this works i will literally kiss you on the mouth

tough portal
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Idk tho when I updated it gave me a pop up for this feature and I just clicked no thanks

dry belfry
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get rid of that junk ASAP

tough portal
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Danders? Yeah

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Well

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Wcyd

ember forge
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i just healed a boss with that

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it was like

dry belfry
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braver than the marines

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i commend u

ember forge
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giga hard mode extreme

thorn plover
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eh ill take it

rain hinge
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raid apex or no apex?

rocky lodge
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hey can i do week 4 of 4 after week 3 of 4 for that haste mastery neck?

thorn plover
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yes

rocky lodge
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thank you

old fossil
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Does pressing NS before convoke still buff the convoke regrowths?

thorn plover
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yes

ember forge
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@tough portal I OWE U MY LIFE

tough portal
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Nuh uh

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You owe me a kiss

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Come on out

old fossil
icy pebble
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Could anyone with alot more experience than me tell me why dafuq is Mastery simming so high for me? its my highest stat at like 860 total, but QE Live still tells me to gem mastery and enchant more mastery

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Last I recall itwas haste, haste, some more haste and then a lil haste on top of that

grand herald
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trust qe

proven phoenix
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Mastery is still very good

main timber
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Show report

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Is this for M+ / dungeon setting maybe?

knotty zealot
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hey i just recently joined and im trying to heal some raids with my friends/guild and i seem to be having lots of difficulty and parsing really low. is there anyone who could look at my logs and maybe help me out? or anyone who i could ask some questions to? this was our last fight and i have watched some guides and i thought i knew what i was doing but I guess not? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dtz87akcg6YJTD2p?fight=19&type=healing&source=17

proven phoenix
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The pvp neck from those weekly quests actually saved me also

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No more stinky haste vers neck

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I didn’t get the alleria neck though…. SAJ

forest citrus
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!craft

knotty zealot
cinder pike
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what's that lifebloom pandemic warning addon i remember someone mentioning here?

last salmon
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Should i spend my myth crest recrafting my wep?

thorn plover
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yes

rain hinge
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i'm assuming the new raid trinket isn't really for us

sand spruce
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hey im curious now that the raid(s) have been out for a while, is there a clear winner between convoke vs tree?

cinder pike
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top restos seem to be using tree on all fights except chimeras

rain hinge
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top as in mythic raiding?

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all i see is convoke

cinder pike
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yea nevermind

rain hinge
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oh okay lol

hearty coral
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would regenesis be a situational take in like a bad group or pugs where you might get more value out of it or does that still not make it worth or would it be a run it and see what analysis spits out % wise

icy pebble
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just the enchants now with the upgraded gear slightly

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just found it odd because my mastery is still my highest stat

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its even telling me to replace the emberwing trinket for the crucible one

main timber
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It's prioritizing mastery because of the dungeon setting

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And Crucible because it's absurdly overtuned

icy pebble
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i see okay ty, didnt think the crucible buff/fix was that strong

sinful oak
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anyone using Plater and have an issue where the nameplates colors go anyway when you get into combat?

thorn plover
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Your profile is using blocked scripts

sinful oak
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Oo what does that mean

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i downloaded Jundies

thorn plover
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oh jundies should be fine

thorn plover
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pretty much

severe shoal
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thats kinda crazy

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damn i should start casting more lol, i gravitate around 4 a min

thorn plover
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i took MS and didnt even cast a wrath

severe shoal
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i dont rlly have mana issues but then again i havent stepped in mythic yet

cinder pike
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how are these guys casting their second convoke only ~50 seconds after their first one?

bitter spire
proven phoenix
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well control of the dream

cinder pike
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oh right

final blade
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How are people liking gaze? worth taking from vault? almost definitely won't get in raid due to loot priority.
I'm a little hesitant due to bugs and tuning

tulip flax
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Get tier set or trinket ?

glacial sky
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yooo not bad 😄 Myth Tier shoulder

glacial sky
tulip nexus
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its worth doing a quick lfr and normal to see if i get a tier piece before picking one from vault right

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idk how often u get catalyst charges from m+ but i would guess u could swap all the tier to good slots

rustic copper
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once you get 4p you basically never run out of cata charges

tulip nexus
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nice

rustic copper
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and I've spent like 4

tulip nexus
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might as well do a quick hc too, early pumper grps tend to be fast

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if i dont get lucky from lfr/norm

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my myth track items were pretty tragic tho jeez

celest glade
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which two should I use? are the drums good? Thank you

thorn plover
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probably drum and stare

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unless you hate on use, then use the passives

cedar mural
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what would u guys go for? QE says the best choice is to take socket and craft a waist

tough portal
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Crescendo is good now

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Recently buffed

sleek blade
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halp,or easy gaze

thorn whale
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Good fucking morning

cedar mural
# thorn whale

god damn, myth alnseer might make few people a bit jealous

timber void
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Have anyone looked at the row walker set if its bis or not ?

grim garden
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does anyone know which trinket is better here?

thorn whale
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QE live does!

rustic copper
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holy shit that is a healer loot spec vault if I've ever seen one

grim garden
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QE says coach

sleek blade
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get coach,dps will love you

icy crescent
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i got Echo of L'ura but my main q did they actually buff it or its just an April fool trap 💀

open ferry
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how is the phoenix torque neck? is it worth crafting?

frozen prairie
open ferry
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no i dont, is that bis?

frozen prairie
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I just don't understand why QE favors haste/verse boots. sadge

sleek blade
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dont take heroic gaze before you raid please

sleek blade
frozen prairie
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yeah ofc. If somehow i get from raid i can take boots. Which is perfect because i actually planned to craft boots

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so i can craft something else

frozen prairie
sleek blade
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in the end kidja,if you dont plan to raid mythic and you dont get the trinket from normal/hc take the trinket. otherwise i would get the shoulders just for the myth track and craft boots with good stats

drifting viper
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new to resto druid, ive been playing mainly in mythic + content mainly but been wanting to get into raiding, are there any youtubers that i can follow that have guides?

frozen prairie
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those are hands. But yeah @sleek blade

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i have fully upgraded hero track tier hands

sleek blade
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hands/shoulders w/e its better upgrade,depending on gear

frozen prairie
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i just don't understand why QE favors boots tho

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before trinket or before tier hands. My both trinkets are champ track

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HoW and Final Stare

main timber
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Link the report then

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QE just tells you best immediate upgrade, you are still supposed to read the big blue text at the top that tells you to consider how else you might upgrade a slot

frozen prairie
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even when i say to max everything its still boots

main timber
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Why is this even a surprise. Your current boots are terrible. I'd take Alnseer and farm better boots

frozen prairie
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I wanted to craft boots

twilit galleon
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Is the bis list in wowhead not fresh anymore? Gaze of the Alnseer is new bis?

desert kayak
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nice first mythic vault

main timber
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Crafting boots is fine too

desert kayak
main timber
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Just remember that QE is based on what you have now, not what you are thinking about crafting

frozen prairie
#

Because there is no haste/mastery boots in dungeon

gentle nova
#

Cata boots are fine cause they are like 66% haste

thorn whale
#

this is cata boots

#

they're pretty decent

#

a lot of haste

tacit trout
#

hey all, fair warning this is probably a stupid question, but I'm new to resto and have something I'd like clarified. I know we are supposed to have reju running at all times on everyone, but what about germination? I'm unsure if I'm wasting mana applying both at all times or when I should use germ.

severe shoal
# thorn whale

what IS the best 5th cata? is there another 1 with haste mast or haste vers?

obsidian prairie
#

should we be loot spec resto or balance for vault?

thorn whale
naive minnow
#

Hello, can anyone help me?

I have this in my inventory and I'm hesitating.
Knowing that I currently have the Hero heart and the Veteran gaze, I'm thinking of using the Hero gaze

tacit trout
thorn whale
#

wrists are vers haste

gentle nova
#

Boots is good catalyst

thorn whale
#

I think boots is #1

severe shoal
#

they give the most haste out of the rest of em?

thorn whale
#

Yes

#

But also it doesn't matter

#

you have infinite cata

proven phoenix
severe shoal
#

didnt drop for me :/

gentle nova
#

I have 45% haste already

#

This cant be that good sacrificing mastery for it

bright swift
proven phoenix
#

I got this

proven phoenix
hushed panther
#

what should i take missing the mythic head and got heart of wind allrdy on 266

bright swift
#

Wtf

#

Where is that cloak from

bright swift
proven phoenix
#

dragons

bright swift
#

What??

gentle nova
#

But i have so much haste

somber sequoia
#

what we crafting 2nd slot lads

proven phoenix
gentle nova
#

And 28% mastery

proven phoenix
#

dragons drops the cloak

#

???

severe shoal
bright swift
#

Does it really

proven phoenix
#

YES

#

LMAO

bright swift
#

How did I miss this

severe shoal
#

unless u got mythic track haste mast chest

somber sequoia
lament river
#

hmm what should i craft wrist? i got hero tier piece .(

thorn plover
twilit galleon
#

is wowhead bislist still relevent?

bright swift
thorn plover
#

gave to my DH tank

#

lol

#

so much stuff rolls leech this season

bright swift
#

My vault is waiting

#

But I need to get out of bed

covert bramble
#

Craft chest or neck?

thorn plover
#

chest

#

free neck from pvp quest

velvet violet
#

Imagine you're sure to loot a myth head and catalyst it to have your 4p and you take

thorn plover
#

oof

velvet violet
#

(it's a back) (yeah i just catalyst a back KEKW )

thorn plover
#

nice cloak

stoic mirage
#

This expac blizzard is trolling with item icons and names

twilit galleon
#

guys did there is a change in which trinket is bis? i see you all glazing when having gaze in the vault. While it is rly strong it's not bis isn't it?

severe shoal
#

bis is ribbon

twilit galleon
#

and final stare?

lofty sigil
#

myth head to catalyze or the ring thonkang

severe shoal
twilit galleon
#

so the wowhead bislist is not relevant anymore?

severe shoal
#

ribbon -> gaze - > final stare

#

use this site for trinks

twilit galleon
#

ok thx mate

tough portal
#

I think I know what I'm crafting

quick jasper
leaden gorge
gentle nova
#

This has been the most boring rwf ever ngl

frozen prairie
#

Whistle since it's harder to get

bright zephyr
#

I just send neck on this right? feels bad not taking a myth piece but eh

eager tulip
#

I need some imput guys, cant decide between HC Gaze or Myth gloves

frozen prairie
#

You have hero track pvp neck from pvp quest @bright zephyr

bright zephyr
frozen prairie
#

Probably boots are the play in your case

dark spear
#

Quick question, do I wanna go full haste mastery or do I wanna have some other stats aswell ? haha

frozen prairie
grand herald
frozen prairie
main timber
#

You're quite safe just going full haste mastery on this spec. Just don't drop ilvl

eager tulip
oak sinew
#

yo guys.. i forgot to do weekly last week now im down a spark.. is there a catch up or am i cooked?

eager tulip
#

currently using vaelgor champ track trinket and the crucible one, but that is supposed to be nerfed now

grand herald
oak sinew
frozen prairie
frozen prairie
tough portal
lament river
#

Is wrist worth crafting? I got hero tier chest 🙁

crude nebula
#

so at the end I tried to spam wraiths alot

eager tulip
tough portal
#

You're really not ramping a lot of Rejuvs very often and your gear kinda sucks

#

Need to farm stuff to replace all that crit with haste

frozen prairie
tough portal
#

You'll do better with more haste on that front, you get both faster casts and a bigger time frame to Regrowth at high Abundance stacks

crude nebula
#

gonna work on replacing most of it

tough portal
#

The base green item crafts with veteran crests are probably upgrades over at least your 250s

heavy sinew
#

could i get some vault help, i havent crafted anything yet and i got a really hard decision

half timber
#

unlucky smh

sage agate
# heavy sinew

i would go for trinket then craft weapon, you can craft a weapon but cant craft mythic track heart of wind

#

and i literally farmed 14 dungeons or so to drop that trinket xd

#

myth shoulders confused me but only viable choice is ribbons i guess

tough portal
sage agate
tough portal
tough portal
heavy sinew
#

im mythic raider that normally clears full raid towards end of expac

proven phoenix
#

yes take weapon there

#

final grade has good stats as well right

heavy sinew
#

like ill probably be able to get a gaze, but the ribbon is gonna be tough

proven phoenix
#

if im not misremembering

severe shoal
#

p sure its haste mast

tough portal
#

I guess it depends on your crests that's all

heavy sinew
#

yea its high mastery medium haste

proven phoenix
#

heart of wind is not giga insane like ribbon or gaze

heavy sinew
#

im max crests atm

#

havent spent any crests or crafted anything lol

#

was waiting for vault

bright swift
#

not great but shoulders are better than nothing

glass crane
#

if I took socket first week then crafting a belt makes sense right (say yes)

bright swift
#

no

#

chest is still more stats

glass crane
#

look I sent heroic crests upgrading a chest to 276 already

steep thorn
#

i guess its HoW over nerfed litany for pushing keys right? other slots are all neglectable

bright swift
#

im in the same boat

glass crane
#

so I'm trying to cope rn

severe shoal
#

does the say yes imply you alr crafted it

bright swift
marsh prism
#

unfortunate.

glass crane
#

I've been busy

quartz storm
#

that's good na ?? lmao
what should I pick guys ??

glass crane
#

with the most dumpster fire rwf casting situation of all time

marsh prism
#

real

#

ngl

frigid maple
#

is emerald good

quartz storm
severe shoal
#

the neck is m+ bis

forest abyss
#

Why not put the fire out, then it wouldn't be on fire

bright swift
quartz storm
crude nebula
#

if I have the available charges to get 4pc I should do it right away right?

#

even if its only champ tier gear?

frozen prairie
crude nebula
#

since you get more charges once you have 4pc?

reef zenith
#

Think I saw earlier it was maybe a plan to vault as feral or guardian - think on basis of if you crafted weapon and were mythic raiding.

Does that change if I crafted weapon but my guild is basically looking more like an AoTC guild that will eventually faff about in mythic?

bright swift
quartz storm
#

we get another catalyst charge this week ??

bright swift
#

yes

proven phoenix
#

I need to start tracking incarn as a buff bar

#

my cdm icon randomly bugs out

#

its so annoying

abstract tulip
#

I would like to craft something not sure what to craft I have weapon already

bright swift
#

Chest

abstract tulip
#

I don’t have another tier token yet for chest 🙁

frigid maple
#

does these trinkets work with your healing spells or just damaging spell and abilites

icy delta
#

is it worth grabbing the myth chest when it is the number 2 prio craft? The chest in the vault is high crit+mastery. Or should i just pick the hero tier gloves and catalyst my 4 set?

twin void
#

Hey, I honestly have no idea what to pick 😭 can someone help me out?

I’ve got a crafted staff right now, and I’m using Heart of Wind (Hero) and Gaze of the Alnseer (Champion) as my trinkets.

frozen prairie
#

Yeah tough choice

proven phoenix
#

wait actually no nvm

#

you dont want to catalyse chest

#

thats actually kind of an annoying vault tbh

icy delta
#

yup

frozen prairie
crude nebula
#

heres my king salad log

#

i tried to focus a bit more on ramping rejuvs

abstract tulip
#

Put it in the analyzer

proven phoenix
# icy delta yeah it is prio 2 craft

yeah im not sure what I'd do here tbh I think chest is probably an upgrade for you anyway and you can take it for free upgrades on a real chest

stoic frigate
#

Guys what would you pick? I´m in Between Legs or Trinket

proven phoenix
#

or you could take a socket

crude nebula
#

oh shoot, didnt know there even was an analyzer

proven phoenix
#

the trinket is not particularly good

icy delta
proven phoenix
lament river
twin void
#

Yeah, I was actually hoping for a tier piece 🙁

proven phoenix
#

I wouldnt take bracers

#

just catalyse the legs

frozen prairie
rotund seal
#

It's insane how high locus walkers ribbon trinket sims, even a normal version one is worth taking over any mythic track item

proven phoenix
#

yes but I would not take a normal ribon over a mythic tier item

#

or any mythic item for that matter tbh

severe shoal
proven phoenix
#

uhh probably only a heroic ribbon or mythic gaze/litany

#

lmao

severe shoal
#

rip

#

never replacing that shit

proven phoenix
#

yeah thats me with my champ alnseer as well

rustic copper
proven phoenix
#

no man

rustic copper
#

Unlucky

proven phoenix
#

I didnt even know there was some guardian tech

rustic copper
#

Sorry…

proven phoenix
#

I got mythic tier man im chilling

#

im 277

rustic copper
#

Holy moly

proven phoenix
#

got this tonight

rustic copper
#

My trinkets are myth heart and heroic ribbon garf

#

But I have nothing to spend crests on from raid

twin void
#

I’ve got a 2-piece set and one catalyst charge, but yeah… my raid loot luck has been pretty terrible 😄

proven phoenix
#

my trinkets are heroic salhadaar thing and champ alnseer

rustic copper
#

Unlucky

proven phoenix
#

I need a litany super bad

rustic copper
#

Why

proven phoenix
#

ribbon too but no way im getting that one

#

because its the easiest to get

rustic copper
#

Would you use heroic litany

proven phoenix
#

im not getting a heroic ribbon or mythic alnseer any time soon

#

yeah? over heroic void suffuser or w/e

rustic copper
#

Hmmm

#

It’s a flat healing trinket right

proven phoenix
#

yes but its good

rustic copper
#

It’ll giga underperform on fights that need healing

severe shoal
# proven phoenix

you know if dr and the first 3 of vs are puggable rn? i dont gotta mythic guild to run with

rustic copper
#

First 3 def not

proven phoenix
#

dreamrift is puggable I think I've seen some pugs kill it

#

no way voidspire first 3 is puggable

#

maybe only first boss but that boss also drops nothing good

rustic copper
#

You could do vantus dreamrift and 1st voidspire

#

For your 1 box

glossy ember
#

Hmm get BIS chest? or take ring and craft a chest?

rustic copper
#

Bro

severe shoal
#

the chest is haste/mast right?

rustic copper
#

Yeah that’s a crazy vault

proven phoenix
#

yeah its the xenas chest

frozen prairie
#

Pugs got famed?

hardy junco
#

thats our bis chest

proven phoenix
#

I would prob take chest

rustic copper
#

I think it’s ring craft chest

severe shoal
#

take the chest

proven phoenix
#

really

#

I wouldnt take ring

rustic copper
#

That’s also our bis ring

#

Ring is very important compared to other seasons

proven phoenix
#

I feel like take chest craft belt is prob the play but im not sure how valuable ilvl on jewellery is rn

severe shoal
#

chest > ring

rustic copper
#

It’s really valuable

hardy junco
#

consideringer chest isnt tierpiece its even better than ring

gentle nova
#

he will never see the ring again

rustic copper
#

I don’t think you know how hard it is to get high haste rings garf

hardy junco
#

Worth sending 100 myth crests to up shoulders tierpiece?

rustic copper
#

Crafted chest is fine, how are you going to get a comparable ring

hardy junco
#

i think terrace ring is better than that one tho

icy delta
#

all myth items are worth upgrading. Shoulder gives good intellect go for it

severe shoal
#

^ real cause i have no idea what to send my myth crests on i got over 100 and 2h/chest crafted

proven phoenix
#

(I got neither xdd)

rustic copper
golden siren
#

Got Myth OH with haste/mastery. Still better to choose something else and craft staff to save crests?

proven phoenix
#

the pvp neck saved me though tbh

rustic copper
#

We gave very rare neck to a rogue that we aren’t using so that they could downgrade hero crest achieve and giga juice their other char

proven phoenix
#

nice man

cunning plinth
# icy delta yeah it is prio 2 craft

Why belt? I'm thinking about crafting the wrist, as the belt drops from the third boss of the raid, so getting it myth wouldn't be a problem... the wrist only in the vault.

rustic copper
#

Why are we equipping 0 haste items

severe shoal
#

sim it ik that crafted boots simmed higher than belt or wrists for me

rustic copper
#

Are people mastery stacking rn

cunning plinth
#

why not

gentle nova
#

because its the most low budget slot

icy delta
gentle nova
#

you want immediate power not power for 3 months from now

rustic copper
#

Do not use the term bis

#

It’s not bis

cunning plinth
#

I was looking at Murlok and there is no one crafting the chest

rustic copper
#

It’s short term power

icy delta
cunning plinth
rustic copper
#

Post your wcl

tulip nexus
#

😂

gentle nova
#

upped the chest

#

ainnoway

thorn whale
#

This neck

#

mhmmmmm

gentle nova
thorn whale
#

best I can get until I get Alleria neck

rustic copper
#

I’m like 45% rn

#

I’m bricked

thorn whale
#

??????

cunning plinth
violet gazelle
#

hey guys we opening chest as resto or balance ? just subbed again

thorn whale
#

How tf are u 45%

gentle nova
half timber
#

finally got my 4pc, Chimaerus was blessing me blobthumbsup

gentle nova
#

low haste players

#

OMEGALOL

cunning plinth
#

with flask ?

tough portal
#

30k gold to craft leather armor piece

#

Insane

gentle nova
#

tf?

rustic copper
thorn whale
#

ur not playing 4p?

rustic copper
#

No

#

That shit does nothing

gentle nova
#

4p is bait

leaden portal
#

whats the haste and mastery cap?

rustic copper
#

I cast 3 wg a minute and I am trying my best to convert the extra mana I have into more healing

half timber
rustic copper
#

What do I need wg cdr or a tiny mana buff on wg for

half timber
#

my haste is 20% which is..still ass but yea

gentle nova
#

they are unhinged and play 17 hours a day

leaden portal
#

im at 30% haste and 23% mastery, just thinking what to gem and so

bright swift
#

yeah man

rustic copper
#

Did you do splits mattiu Idr

gentle nova
bright swift
#

this really needs to cost 60k

gentle nova
rustic copper
#

Gg

cunning plinth
rustic copper
#

I am curious if other guilds are splitting dreamrift

gentle nova
#

chest is immediate power

neat patio
#

do we open vault with guardian spec ?

proven phoenix
#

best I can do

rustic copper
proven phoenix
#

im a mastery merchant

#

fuck haste

frozen prairie
#

to craft chest you need 100k lol

bright swift
icy delta
#

Is it fine to pick hero tier items over this crit vers myth chest or that trinket? Literally was going to craft my chest due it being even with tier garbage....?

tough portal
rustic copper
proven phoenix
#

no

gentle nova
proven phoenix
#

we had 2 warglaives, very rare ring and some other bs I think

rustic copper
rustic copper
proven phoenix
#

no man

#

lmfao

#

????

rustic copper
#

Bro that thing is mine

proven phoenix
#

leech is piss

#

it barely does anything

rustic copper
#

It did more than my tranq on the only fight I checked

gentle nova
#

isnt that helm piss stats also

proven phoenix
#

no

#

its double haste

rustic copper
gentle nova
#

: O

past tangle
#

hey is chest craft the best for m+ ?

rustic copper
#

And if you cata it I’m 99% sure it deletes the leech

proven phoenix
#

im not unequipping my helm for that

gentle nova
#

based

proven phoenix
#

do we think the 100% mastery staff will be long term bis

rustic copper
#

Are you playing ms?

proven phoenix
#

like post turbo

proven phoenix
gentle nova
#

i wanna reach 60% haste

rustic copper
#

Need to play ms if you are spamming wg

gentle nova
#

doable?

rustic copper
#

Makes sense

severe shoal
#

can an armor piece proc an extra stat when cataed?

rustic copper
proven phoenix
#

no

#

cata is just conversion

severe shoal
#

then cata doesnt delete extra stat

proven phoenix
#

sometimes cata bricks and deletes a socket or tert if its like guarranteed

severe shoal
#

3 of my tier have extra stats

half timber
proven phoenix
#

like on the double socket items I wouldnt be surprised if cata just removed one of the sockets

rustic copper
gentle nova
rustic copper
#

Like it can proc another leech and have double leech if you’re lucky

gentle nova
#

maybe 55

rustic copper
#

But the guaranteed leech gets deleted from the special helm

proven phoenix
#

wasnt there a guaranteed tert item from one of the doti dungeons

#

and the tert was removed from cata

rustic copper
#

Yes

half timber
#

Is the 40% haste with or without Buff? im still mostly in champ gear so yea.. i aint stressing myself lol

gentle nova
#

why would u count without

#

do u go around playing without flask?

rustic copper
#

Max consumables

severe shoal
#

are hands high value gear piece?

rustic copper
#

No

severe shoal
#

just need to know if its worth to send crests here

proven phoenix
#

it is

rustic copper
#

Do you have other items to send crests on

half timber
proven phoenix
#

always max out myth items unless you have a better myth item

rustic copper
#

Like we’re struggling to give everyone enough items to spend myth crests on

severe shoal
green shard
proven phoenix
#

like if you have myth legs also available then I'd put crests in legs otherwise I'd insta max the hands

rustic copper
#

You aren’t going to have items to send crests on

gentle nova
#

its like 200g

rustic copper
#

I think we have 320 myth crests this week

tough portal
proven phoenix
#

im a bit starved on crests

rustic copper
#

160 for crafts, 80 for vault and another 80 for a myth raid drop

#

So you need a 2nd myth raid drop to dump your crests

plain steeple
half timber
gentle nova
#

a token gives you 200k gold and its 15 usd you make that in half an hour

gentle nova
half timber
#

its still early in the season, why minmax this early. Go with the flow

#

unless you push title

proven phoenix
#

because everyone wants to push as far as they can

#

wdym

plain steeple
proven phoenix
#

you sound like a wowhead commenter

rustic copper
#

Keys over 10 early season are bad for your health

opal glacier
vestal igloo
#

Do we open vault in balance or resto?

proven phoenix
#

thats a heroic gaze right

alpine bluff
#

Hi! Do we have an estimate of the 'power' of the 4p? I have 2p and nothing in the vault but a low lvl piece. So i wonder if i take the MM piece, with the risk of not having the 4p this week, or take it and sacrifice a Mythic piece of gear...thanks

frozen prairie
#

it is hc gaze. 266 is h track

half timber
rustic flicker
proven phoenix
#

this past hour has just been an endless stream of logs and vault screeenshots

#

christ

frozen prairie
#

EU wokage

gentle nova
#

what else man

#

spec sucks

half timber
#

turn off screen then idk

rustic copper
#

Real

gentle nova
#

need immediate buffs

icy delta
viral sentinel
#

what is the play here guys
i already have hc gaze + normal ribbon
i mostly play m+
so i guess haste mastery myth track chest?

bright swift
#

bis chest

proven phoenix
#

I need more myth tier pieces...

viral sentinel
#

oh damn we do, chest angle i guess

green shard
#

What’s the usual cpm for rejuv/regrowth?

plain steeple
#

What do you even mean.

#

Also Blizz has announced a giga buff for 12.0.5

#

I‘d expect a 10% overall nerf for us, after that Apex buff.

dense crane
#

Appex buff will just change our raid power or also m+?

plain steeple
#

Both

solar hollow
#

hello everyone. im seeing a lot of variation online for raid talent builds. particularly apex versus non apex and tree of life versus convoke. Is there a best all-around option or is it fight/comp dependent?

plain steeple
#

But raid exorbitantly.

bright swift
#

my problem with this apex change is that it'll just take all power away from anything but lifebloom

vestal igloo
#

take this at all times right?

bright swift
#

you can't play any good talents

scenic magnet
dense crane
#

Tbf I enjoy the sound from rapid blooming

cunning plinth
proper ferry
#

hi, is it worth it crafting a weapon in midnight ? why no guide mention it pls

cunning plinth
#

Now ask me a question, regarding mythic, I like to use "verdant infusion", but they are using "prosperity", is it really better?

solar hollow
#

also, who should i be casting lifebloom on in raids?

severe shoal
#

verdant>

#

but its rlly preference

snow umbra
dense crane
#

I have better abbudance uptime with prosperity, might be a me issue

snow umbra
#

what would be the recommendation?

severe shoal
#

staff

snow umbra
#

I have crafted 2h

#

Honestly what an awful vault

severe shoal
#

that 1s better y just got unlucky brotha

snow umbra
#

I think its gonna be bracers

green shard
#

Is the second embellishment arcano weave for us? Guessing there isn’t really any other