resto

[rustic copper]

Is vaelgor even good for us if we hold for 2 mins

[digital prawn]

It will be always those stats

[half timber]

Ohh so I only have to worry about getting high ilvl pieces then catalyze and gg

[potent juniper]

pretty much

[bright swift]

apparently so

[rustic copper]

Did you count items vro

[bright swift]

but I kinda cba

[bright swift]

yeah

[rustic copper]

It’s like way better to open in guardian lootspec

[half timber]

Ahh okay I see thx. Gotta.hope for just 1 set piece in my vault

[frozen prairie]

Which trinkets you have? @weary oar

[buoyant ruin]

would you take a heroic track gaze of the alnseer or myth track tier gloves? I do already have 4pc

[bright swift]

no not guardian or

[digital prawn]

I duplicated one but you know the idea. You can check in google if you want

[junior moth]

yeah thanks, trinkets this tier have me feeling really behind

[bright swift]

You can't get vaelgor in guardian

[half timber]

Gaze

Rn Im trying to get Heart of Wind, been running atleast 6 Windrunnees today..got the mount 😭

[bright swift]

there's fewer balance trinkets in m+

there's fewer balance trinkets in raid

[half timber]

I have the wrong kind of luck

[rustic copper]

Yeah but it’s like way better for m+ and significantly better for raid

[bright swift]

so balance is very safe choice if you don't want salhadaar trinket

[rustic copper]

Outside of only those items

[potent juniper]

anyone have any tips on healing a tank that giga pulls M+?

[bright swift]

better for raid?

fewer weapons?

[vocal sage]

Terrible vault, guess I take the cloak 🙁

[rustic copper]

Yeah less weapons less trinkets

[bright swift]

yeah that's ass

[bright swift]

let me check

[rustic copper]

20 items resto 18 guardian in raid, 67 resto m+ 58 guardian

When I counted

[gaunt quarry]

Quick question guys... Acuity of rendorei or bersderker rage as weapon enchant?

[bright swift]

did you count paladins/alleria

[digital prawn]

ironbark on pull. Lifebloom / 2 rejuvenations on tank / regrowth / wildgrowth. spam regrowths on him. Cast switftmend into rejuvenations / regrowth to trigger Blooming frenzy from apex talent and spam healing him.

lately I am literally spamming regrowths on tank with 10 abundance stacks because he is going from 100% to 10% in 0.5 seconds

[rustic copper]

No

[bright swift]

ok

[rustic copper]

I did count tier though

Because i dont know how that even works

[potent juniper]

Thats what i've been feeling sometimes

[digital prawn]

Like... I do 110k hps in seat 9 right

and tank / people still die

[bright swift]

i think you just count weapons+trinkets (you don't want)

[digital prawn]

I am slowly losing my mind

[gentle nova]

first pull?

[digital prawn]

first pulls

[rustic copper]

But 2 less items in guardian loot pool is a big deal with so few items in the pool

[digital prawn]

I would say but yeah

I also sooth champions

[bright swift]

i've done like 200k hps in seat 10 first pull lol

[gentle nova]

low hps tho

[digital prawn]

insane ...

[gentle nova]

i did 300k last night on a 10

[ember forge]

is crucible dead or was its' death greatly exaggerated?

[gentle nova]

onf irs tpull

lol

[digital prawn]

thank you very much for letting me know your numbers

I got skill issued then

[prisma garden]

in no apex build do we care about maintaining 100% uptime on LB anymore or is it more efficient to keep abundance stacks up with that GCD

[rustic copper]

Do I wait for reclear before deciding a lootspec?

[bright swift]

@rustic copper yeah I see the vision

[digital prawn]

btw is there any addon that screams. CAST SYMBIOTIC RELIATONSHIPS during key ? I sometimes forget to cast it and it's huge...

[bright swift]

what why

[digital prawn]

and it is not in cooldown manager ...

oh IT IS

[bright swift]

addon called BuffReminders

[digital prawn]

Thx. Will take a look

[prisma garden]

pretty sure you can add it in "Enhance QoL" if you want but its a big all in one QoL addon

[proven jolt]

Should I take a champion gaze of alnseer over a heroic belt that has haste on it ?

[digital prawn]

I think I figured out a way to do so now

[gentle nova]

yes

[brazen laurel]

I have tier head and shoulders. Should I catalyst hero gloves and champion legs or wait until hero legs?

[crude basin]

What the best way to use WG? Do I use it preemptively so I have have a target for swiftmend? Do I use it reactively when at least 2 or three people are damaged first? Or do I hot the group with rejuvs first and then use it when damage comes? Or do I use it on cooldown during every pull for soul of the forest procs? This is for mythic btw

[frozen prairie]

You get charges from raids, m+ when you already have 4p

[vocal sage]

yup, I might catalyse the cloak

[gentle nova]

kinda shit vault what do i pick, shoulder surely?

i was thinking boots and cata em

[brazen laurel]

Oh that's right, forgot about that. Thanks!

[candid cloak]

guy in my guild crafted bracers/cloak with hero crests and said it was his bis and an upgrade so he did it for prog....i was tilted for 2 days

[urban token]

:c

qe says chest but that feels so ODD

[rustic copper]

If I get a decent 2nd trinket I think I’m ok losing vaelgor chance for higher chance on gaze and like m+ bis chest

[bright swift]

@rustic copper
6 guardian specific trinkets in m+
5 guardian specific weapons in m+

4 balance specific trinkets in m+
14 balance specific weapons in m+

14 weapons is insane

[rustic copper]

Yeah

It is

[bright swift]

i think I open guardian yeah

[rustic copper]

I noticed every dungeon I do I go guardian or feral spec

What’s your trinket situation

[bright swift]

yep lol

decent

mythic void suffuser

hero keepsake

[thorn plover]

does all raid/dungeon content drop catalyst charges

[paper harbor]

Hey guys I have 1 myth 2h weapon (using crafted now). Is that my best choice?

[bright swift]

yes

[gentle nova]

gaze

[bright swift]

pick alsneer lol

[paper harbor]

it is hero grade to confirm, gaze/alsneer aye ?

[gentle nova]

yes

[bright swift]

yes it's very good

[paper harbor]

awesome ty v much guys

[bright swift]

You only have 1 myth vault

@rustic copper but yeah for raid it looks like

2 weapons for guardian
1 trinket for guardian

3 weapons for balance
2 trinkets for balance

so

this is a clear guardian vault

but you have to let Vaelgor go

[digital prawn]

Thank you. Finally

[fleet jewel]

[rustic copper]

I have normal ribbon and some similar hero options to you for 2nd trinket, so it’s a little less obvious for me

But I think I might still do it

[bright swift]

I wouldn't pick a hero ribbon

gotta spend your myth crests

[soft slate]

does anyone know can you go double 'Arcanoweave Lining' embellishments? or do I have to pick a different one since I have already

[rustic copper]

I wouldn’t but vaelgor is a larger upgrade for me than it is for you

[bright swift]

Right

Just get the Salhadaar myth trinket

[rustic copper]

Mw want it too I think

[bright swift]

he's getting an alnseer in his vault

[rustic copper]

I might be first in line for it but maybe not after I grief my vault

[bright swift]

14 balance specific weapons in m+

this is demonic

I wanna dodge this at all costs

[rustic copper]

It really is

[cold fjord]

Sure this has been asked a ton, but how good is 4pc for m+

[austere bloom]

any suggestions on this crap? have 4p, m crafted chest. QE is saying helm but it's small. with H helms from raid/M+ second suggestion is drums trinket.

[bright swift]

very minor

[cold fjord]

That’s what I suspected.

[bold monolith]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/naqqwxtpaqnf

Would you take bond of light hero track over a myth track tier head? My first vault since DF and first time using QELive, i know this is spammed with vault opinions so sorry to be part of the problem

[main timber]

Take helm, farm a better 2nd ring from M+

[bold monolith]

right on, appreciate it

[austere helm]

what should my 2nd craft be with mythic crests?

this is my current gear

do i just recraft waist, or is there a better slot?

[gentle nova]

Shouldve been chest but you upped it

Probably belt then

[bright swift]

Chest upgraders

[upbeat swift]

What's best for my second craft? I know the guide says wrists are most ideal, but QE is saying boots are a higher hps increase despite me only having champ wrists rn. Or is there a piece that I didn't sim that might be better based on my gear?

[plain steeple]

2% wipe, fml

[main timber]

Try Chest, bracers are more of a very late play so I'm not surprised they lose

[grizzled kayak]

any good raid streamer to watch

[main timber]

Yeah makes sense, boots are bigger ilvl upgrade. You'd have to test with equal boot and chest item level in there (since you can farm heroic boots)

[upbeat swift]

Even with boots upgraded to 276 (same as chest) it's still saying boots are a much bigger upgrade 😭

[main timber]

Can you link report

[upbeat swift]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/topgear

Idk if that's working, I'm clicking the export button and it's jsut

giving me that

[main timber]

You just paste the URL when you are looking at your report

[upbeat swift]

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/jfzaqjhrbpwq

oops

[molten elk]

Did the recent trinket buffs move the needle in any reasonable way for the power level of any of them?

[solemn wharf]

How do I use the site cause I'm confused as hell and this vault got me all sorts of confused as hell

[frozen prairie]

Our main mathematician is slacking. Didn't update yet.

[main timber]

They are updated!

They've been updated for hours

[frozen prairie]

👀

[molten elk]

Where? Wowhead says it hasn't been updated since 24th.

[bright swift]

bro just slandered without any backup

[grizzled seal]

[frozen prairie]

I am sorry mr. Voulk i will never doubt again

[main timber]

QE Live

I'll review WH in a bit but I doubt it needs much

They mostly buffed D- tier trinkets to D+

[bright swift]

lovely

[molten elk]

Word, thanks

[main timber]

Cosmic Crescendo the only one that's a bit interesting now

[frozen prairie]

No love for m+ trinkets i guess it's on purpose so m+ chads do raids

[main timber]

They did chain buff M+ trinkets, they're still just bad

I asked for +100% buff

They did 35

[bright swift]

never seeing any of them

constantly in feral lootspec in m+

and opening vault as guardian

[plain steeple]

wild growth good i guess

I start to like the tier set.

[bright swift]

it's pretty bad

[plain steeple]

Yeah ok, i got 30s cdr on my 4p, but thats still shit. 😄

[proven phoenix]

timewalking quest

[bright swift]

who cares man

[frozen prairie]

Gz

[bright swift]

normal

[proven phoenix]

dude I had an lfr one equipped

earlier

[rapid badger]

Hey any body some advise on how to heal Vexamus in Algeth'ar Academy in 15 I always die when Mana Bombs overlap with Arcane Fissure

[pulsar kettle]

plan drs for it

[rustic copper]

You’re cooked buddy

Now you don’t get hero

[proven phoenix]

I get mythic

[plain steeple]

With bonus rolls in 12.0.5!

Or vault I guess. Easy

[exotic magnet]

anyone done mythic chim yet? wondering how likely it is that it'll be puggable by 12.0.5 for those bonus rolls

[wild gust]

did they make leech shit this expac? It doesnt like zero healing

[main timber]

They cut it in half last expansion

[bronze meadow]

it's def puggable just a dps check and people following mechanics

[main timber]

Will be on QE later but all Cataclysm timewalking trinkets bad. If treants proc Necromantic Focus then that one is just ok but like 10th still

[exotic magnet]

thanks! makes me feel a little more reasonable passing up hero alnseer now

[junior mesa]

thoughts on raident sunstone post buff just for m+. seems like it would be a solid way to bail out mistakes?

[crude basin]

What the best way to use WG? Do I use it preemptively so I have have a target for swiftmend? Do I use it reactively when at least 2 or three people are damaged first? Or do I hot the group with rejuvs first and then use it when damage comes? Or do I use it on cooldown during every pull for soul of the forest procs? This is for mythic btw

[halcyon patrol]

double checking: does regrowth pandemic and does it count as 40% crit chance from Improved Regrowth

[rustic copper]

Someone in my guild pugged HoF chim

[lapis grove]

how do u use this?

[grizzled seal]

you dont

[lapis grove]

but is tier S

[exotic magnet]

wowsers - maybe I'll start trying sooner rather than later, then

[vivid peak]

click it on cooldown in raid and in m+ you proc it with cat abilities

[inner sonnet]

rejuvs -> time your WGs when damage comes for maximum effect (some leeway there) -> spam regrowths or use cd and taper off with regrowths

[crude basin]

Ty

[livid hearth]

How important is mouse over healing? Do people heal without it?

[plain steeple]

I heal without, yes.

Mainly because I want to do something else with my mouse when I cast.

It’s personal preference.

Some play better with mouse over, some better without.

[silk ice]

People have made it work but it’s adding a click to every targeted heal which adds up over the course of thousands of globals

[plain steeple]

I‘m more precise that way and have better movement. Maybe because play like that for 20 years.

For most people it would likely be better to play with mouseovers though.

[halcyon patrol]

surprising, you'd assume the more you move your fingers to click hotkeys the less they are on movement binds

[bright swift]

Mouse over healing is mandatory

you will always be slower otherwise

[vernal relic]

Is it normal / possibly for items to proc two tertiaries? Or is my vault busted.

[halcyon patrol]

i think that trinket comes with leech doesn it

[bright swift]

that's a strength trinket

lol

[pulsar kettle]

has natty leech on it

[vernal relic]

I have the same trinket w/o leech

So I didnt think it came with it naturally

[halcyon patrol]

ah weird then

blizzard is banning you as we speak

[vernal relic]

Seems about right

Per Usual alts get the best gear

[plain steeple]

Mandatory is a hard word if I am faster without.

[bright swift]

you cannot be faster without it

that's literally impossible

[livid hearth]

Last time i asked about healbot/clickcast healing and it wasnt popular. Arent those two kinda really similar as you just heal by hovering over?

few days ago i asked

[tulip flax]

3k Rio with boomkin dps as resto , Not pushing more

[vernal relic]

I use click to cast, its way faster

[plain steeple]

I can have a new target immediately after the gcd started. You‘d start moving your mouse when I am already over the next target.

[mystic pasture]

I mean, you can move your mouse after the GCD starts with mouseover too

[halcyon patrol]

hear me out, a pad with 20 joysticks (one for each raider) and push the joystick a direction to cast the heal

[plain steeple]

That’s exactly the point. You move it after the gcd if you play mouseover. I target - move the mouse and when the gcd starts on the previous target, I’m already at the next target.

[mystic pasture]

That's the same thing

Clicking is just mouseover + click

[rustic copper]

There is no way you can be serious rn

[mystic pasture]

I'm not gonna criticize for not using mouseovers because it's anyone's 15 a month but saying it's objectively faster doesn't make much sense

[plain steeple]

I tried mouseover for so long. I was just slower with it.

[rustic copper]

I’m literally as fast as is possible

Everything in spell queue window

[plain steeple]

I always had the issue that I couldn’t do anything in between the GCDs and was kinda fixed to the raidframes with mouseover.

The hindered me.

[frozen prairie]

How's that possible?

[halcyon patrol]

speed tier list

1. arena binds, never target a unit frame simply macro targetted casts
2. mouse over + 1 input (that doesnt take away movement control)
3. mouse over + 1 input (that takes away movement control)
4. kind of anything else involving more than targeting and 1 input

[gloomy solstice]

Mythic Final Grace in vault. 😄 How did you all go?

[plain steeple]

That staff will be BiS for 12.0.5 unless they completely kill the apex buff.

[halcyon patrol]

not 1h + crafted off?

[plain steeple]

Except for the mythic final boss wespon.

[frozen prairie]

My vault is still cooking

[gloomy solstice]

to be honest its the best pick on my vault. another H Atier trink

[gentle nova]

holy fuck i spent 100k crafting the chest

Holyyyyy

[silk ice]

Named legenDairy
does not have a dairy related pfp

[wintry violet]

is frenzied regen talent the main reason to presss mangle to switch into bear form ? So if we arent taking it it doesnt do much ?

[plain steeple]

I have no idea which 1h you have in mind. Am I missing something?

[carmine glen]

everything looks correct in my QE sim except its saying this trinket is BIS...? I have like 4 trinkets that are higher ranking on the list itself AND theyre higher ilvl??
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/item=251792/glorious-crusaders-keepsake

that cant be right?

[livid hearth]

stupid/easy question, can i remove moonfire and wrath from my thought? Since i want to be catweaving when im dpsing?

[main timber]

Remember the list is for max level items

If you chop it to Champion only then Keepsake is a top 5 trinket

[halcyon patrol]

bird dagger

[carmine glen]

the other trinkets are heroic tho

[main timber]

Can you link a report or somethin

[carmine glen]

litany, emerald coach

sure

[cursive pilot]

boots

[gentle charm]

someone remind me: we are doing resto vaults, not balance right?

[main timber]

Coach Whistle is quite a bit worse than Keepsake now

[grizzled seal]

You can rng into it on heroic too

Which is pretty good

[weary oar]

Guys, What should I craft with the second spark?

[weary wasp]

Crafting Advice: Wowhead Explanation
1️⃣ ⚔️ Recommendation for the majority of players is to craft a 2H int Staff or Mace first (whichever costs cheaper materials, they are the same), due to it being your biggest budget slot. The only mythic 2H that drops from raid is off the very last boss, or else you are gambing on a M+ vault.
2️⃣ ⚙️ For your second craft, likely candidates are chest (our tier off-piece, high budget slot) or boots/belt (medium budget, not reserved for tier, weaker alternative options - note, there are boe boots this tier) with the Arcanoweave Lining embellishment.

[forest citrus]

if im crafting bracers do i craft the 1 stat or 2 stat ones?

[versed lark]

Not sure what to take, QE tells me to take the weapon

[livid hearth]

wowhead guide rotation guide talking about tranquility is always taking consideration of flourish talent where tranquility extending duration of hots, but the talent im copying from a top player isnt taking flourish. Then hsould i just use tranquility as Oh fuck button/big cooldown instead of prepping with hots before using it like they mention?

i would mostly play m+ is what im thinking

[weary wasp]

It's still affected by your mastery

So more hots on a target = more tranq healing

[main timber]

Flourish is mostly a raid talent yeah

You sound like you are reading a raid section even

There's an M+ tab

[livid hearth]

ok bottom of the text they said in dungeon its used for the healing not ramp

ty

[fleet jewel]

assuming u dont buy boe boots, is 2nd craft prio chest > feet > waist?

[thorn plover]

👀

[severe shoal]

theyre p good

[livid hearth]

im learning resto and trying to effectively place as many rejuv to increase regrowth cost reduce/crit chance. What i want is in 5 men group i want my soul of the forest where i rejuv after swiftmend to place its 2 bonus rejuv on pets too? But it seems like soul of the forest never targets pet?

[bright swift]

I have one

my map had it this week

[severe shoal]

some things i dont remember having being marked on frames/very noticable

[thorn plover]

can lfr drop catalyst charges

[bright swift]

yes

[livid hearth]

Im in 2 person group to test it and warlocks felguard isnt getting rejuved automatically from soul of the forest, i have to manually rejuv it

[bright swift]

have you done your bountiful keys

@thorn plover

[thorn plover]

i did 1

with map

[main timber]

You never want it to go on pets

[toxic zephyr]

fuckman.mp3 boss died on the worst pull

[bright swift]

they have high drop chance for catalysts i've heard

[thorn plover]

ill try that first

have you heard what tier? i usually send them on 8

[livid hearth]

i was just theorytizing, in dungeon group ill reach 9 abundance stacks slower, so if i rejuv pets my abundance stack goes to 9 even faster

[main timber]

No that doesn't make any sense

[bright swift]

noone really knows

[main timber]

You can get up to 10 stacks of Abundance on players

[livid hearth]

how? i can have 2 rejuv max per player

yeah

ur right

[thorn plover]

2x5 isnt 10 youre crazy

[static hazel]

Litany or myth offhand? QELive says both are close. I have a hero main and a champ offhand. I can't decide :\

[spark river]

@thorn plover wanna see a cool log

[thorn plover]

cool bug

sure

if it has regenesis

[spark river]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/NGCZxYqLn398z1Dv?fight=22&type=healing&source=19

3 heal first boss

rank 9

[thorn plover]

what am i looking at

[cerulean stratus]

an underheal log

[livid hearth]

How good is catchup experience? I had a lvl 70 druid but i wanna train healing, so i was planning on spamming dungeons but i can opt to arathi highlands for catchup expereience. Is it faster leveling? Cant queue dungeons when im here it seems

[spark river]

I was playing tree and wanted to share with someone

Why you gotta be rude

[thorn plover]

i saw no regenesis

closed it immediately

[spark river]

I would play it if I had extra points tbh

[hasty blade]

Did they fix crucible trinket?

[gentle nova]

uhm what

?

hello

[spark river]

alright

dont diss me

i had to fling tree in from the talents

becaues my macro got fucked

[rustic spear]

what are u guys crafting this week

[spark river]

mid pull btw

[woeful osprey]

What spec are we opening Vault in? I've opened in Resto and none of the trinkets appear on the wowhead tier list

[zealous skiff]

heroic gaze or mythic feather?

[cerulean stratus]

is there a chest from m+

h/m

[gentle nova]

yup

[thorn plover]

2 of them

skyreach and nexus

[cerulean stratus]

but like

chest craft would be best for prog right

trying to decide if i also craft chest

or go boots

no haste mastery boots at all

[gentle nova]

chest is best if u dont get it int he vault

[south pasture]

Deciding on trinket, Refueling Orb or Radiant Sunstone +48 avoidance (cant see it listed on trinket lists)

[rapid dagger]

i have a enblishement on staff what is my next best thing to craft wrist ?

[gentle nova]

both suck

[south pasture]

oh its u again

[bright swift]

chest in most cases

[south pasture]

thank you very helpful

[rapid dagger]

i have heroic tier chest

[gentle nova]

its either take one for crest save or take socket

[bright swift]

my condolences

[thorn plover]

same bro

[gentle nova]

thats not an impediment tho>?

farm a shoulders and cata it

[thorn plover]

i have

just need charges

vrocas told me i was guaranted to get 1 from a t11 bountiful but i didnt

[bright swift]

?

I did all 6 and got none btw

[thorn plover]

lol

atleast resto delves are fast af

[south pasture]

any experts able to help me please https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/iccczdbozvor

[bronze meadow]

I’m prettty much using the wowhead m+ talents and somewhat struggling to time a +14.

In 14 pit I was averaging about 90k hps, I’m 270 ilvl with my 4 piece, should I be running different talents like 2 swiftmends or? There’s just so much damage that’s going out, like in the last boss when the adds come I have to use tranq and convoke to get through it

[gloomy solstice]

thanks for the heads up. would you put coach drop to b tier then?

[main timber]

What do you need help with?

Are these your only good vault options? If so, take Refueling - that at least has a niche

[main timber]

I think I already dropped it. It's like low A tier

[south pasture]

yeah theyre the best vault options unfortunately lol. Ok ❤️ thank you appreciate the help

[snow umbra]

Not sure if this is allowed, but is there any experts able to review my stream and highlight any issues? https://www.twitch.tv/tah789

[lethal garnet]

Question, I've been debating this for a bit.. I'm a M+ player, don't raid more than Heroic, but I do plan to pug Mythic Chim groups. I have the option of Mythic Legs, or Heroic Gaze. I do know the Mythic legs will also become BOE from raid yes? I have gold.. lol which would you guys take?

[thorn plover]

ok these new danders frame borders gotta go

[rugged cedar]

do we always end up with a hunt embel or is the 2h staff from vault the goal?

[half star]

Yeah that was not a great idea, at least they weren't on by default

[half star]

289 weapon is the eventual goal

[half star]

I read what it did in the wizard and immediately pinged all my healers a warning not to enable it 🤣

[lyric surge]

[hasty blade]

@main timber only pinging you cause I saw you respond 5 minutes ago. Is the crubile trinket fixed?

[mighty belfry]

Is Echo of L'ura updated on qe?

[main timber]

Eh what do you mean by fixed

[main timber]

Yes but make sure you refreshed page

[hasty blade]

Is it still overbudgeted

[digital fulcrum]

is there some way to track lifebloom decently either through the cooldown manager or with an addon

[rugged cedar]

kk

[main timber]

Yes

[hasty blade]

Thanks

[digital fulcrum]

the pandemic option on cooldown manager doenst do anything and the on removed option triggers every time i switch target which is incredibly annoying

[bronze meadow]

Is the wowhead m+ talents good for +14 keys or do I want to run something special?

[thorn plover]

for Lifebloom, there is an addon in my discord bio

[drifting timber]

when i get ToL procs is there any order to cast the spells or whatver is needed

[thorn plover]

i got 2 cata charges in 2 bosses in lfr

[digital prawn]

Is it just me that feels like m+ keys are much harder than in TWW? (Evveryone says otherwise)

[thorn plover]

free hero piece from timewalking btw

[fallen compass]

The only thing is I wish we still had our interrupt. Other than that they seem a lot easier than early TWW.

[severe shoal]

how good is vaelgors for us rn

just rolled a 100 on it

lmk guy sin my raid offering 700k for it lmao

[thorn plover]

i just sold the lfr one for 250k

[digital prawn]

Thanks guys. It just feels miserable for some reason to heal keys now

[thorn plover]

teammates are shittier overall

if youre pugging

[digital prawn]

true

[severe shoal]

i took the 700k i aint rich

[thorn plover]

no kick tracking etc people are horrible

[digital prawn]

I am

They just pull the whole dungeon without any kicks

[thick perch]

Why kick when healer can heal :p

Yea I’m not a fan of keys either rn

[digital prawn]

let me kick pretty pls

[woeful sleet]

what chest enchant should I use? the one the gives 50 primary or the 40 primary and 5 percent mana?

[thick perch]

Think I’m low at 255ilvl tho

[bronze meadow]

I’m at 3k io rn but +14s really hurt, like everyone needs to be on their shit with cc, kicks, and defensives otherwise it’s a nightmare to heal.

[exotic lintel]

I heard the Crucible of Erratic Energies (trinket from lvl 7 renown in voidstorm) could be pretty good, is that true ?

[daring summit]

do we still have to do that degen thing where we cap out our heroic pieces before upgrading mythic pieces to maximize crest use?

[upper estuary]

Yes

[daring summit]

gross ty

[severe shoal]

mark of the worldsoul

[severe shoal]

it was decent for us before reset

its alright

[thorn plover]

wish it wasnt crit

[severe shoal]

fr

it shouldve been any secondary stat we choose, shouldve been able to use the samples to change it

[gentle charm]

guys the crafted staff is ain'hara cane, right?

[thorn plover]

ya

[molten gull]

or 2h mace

[gentle charm]

what ilvl should it be

[molten gull]

285

[molten gull]

ah shoot i forgot about this and wasted crests rip

[gentle charm]

do we just use 1 mythic crest wtf

[molten gull]

you use 80

[gentle charm]

do they need to be enchanted or something why is the crafting thing weird

[thorn plover]

no

you just put the crests in

you dont have to buy an item with crests anymore

[molten gull]

they removed that tedious step. big W for blizz

[gentle charm]

ah moce

nice*

[daring summit]

i used all my sparks rn but i still have 4 sparks

is there a bug rn?

[bright swift]

then you clearly didn't use all your sparks or

what did you craft

[daring summit]

staff

[bright swift]

285?

[quartz moss]

lol

[trim cosmos]

thats not your sparks

[molten gull]

those aren't sparks

[upper estuary]

I dont think the extra one shows

[quartz moss]

that is not spark

[molten gull]

thats just showing how many you have acquired total this season

[daring summit]

oh shit slime

[quartz moss]

ur sparks are a real item in ur bag

.......

btw what specc is recommended for opening vault

if u have a crafted staff

[bright swift]

guardian if your trinket situation is good and you crafted staff

[trail oasis]

how do we use litany do the treant moonfires proc it?

[trim cosmos]

would you define crucible/feather(hc)/gaze(champ) as good? killed alleria hc so ribbon hc would be possible

[bright swift]

I would only consider this if you killed mythic bosses

for higher alnseer chance

[trim cosmos]

so without mythic dreamrift killed just go guardian?

[bright swift]

balance

[rapid dagger]

have any good addons for druids any one

[trim cosmos]

Why Balance? I got 2h crafted

[bright swift]

because if you don't have a mythic v ault for raid

[trim cosmos]

Didn’t you say Guardian here

[bright swift]

you still want alleria hc

yes

guardian reduces the amount of items in the pool for mythic vault

so higher mythic alnseer chance

but tbh

you can do it even without it

you get rid of a ton of weapons in m+ vault too

[trim cosmos]

understood

[bright swift]

6 guardian specific trinkets in m+
5 guardian specific weapons in m+

4 balance specific trinkets in m+
14 balance specific weapons in m+

the only relevant dungeon trinkets are shared

(heart of wind)

[severe shoal]

my best pull so far what did i do wrong here

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8d3w6C4vPhyKMkjV?fight=13&type=healing&source=2

[glacial sky]

hmm i did not really try to go into detail on my healing since new expansion for raid.
but I feel like i am generally doing a lot worse than every other non druid healer usually

i must be doing something wrong

[bright swift]

Druid is a lot harder to get results with

[severe shoal]

post a log

[bright swift]

i played disc in raid for the first time yesterday and my god

that class just auto heals

without effort

[glacial sky]

xD

last expansion first week clear heroic my parse was 60~90 but this expansion looks like shit 🤣
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/chamber-of-aspects/gattemoss

[gentle nova]

last expa was a lot easier

30% of your hps was tier set and it auto healed

[gentle pollen]

How do you guys do your delves and hunts for weeklies? I like healing on Druid but I hate having to spec swap for various different activities

[bright swift]

guardian delves, balance hunts

[gentle pollen]

😢

[severe shoal]

ur lifebloom uptime is very low

[glacial sky]

but also last expansion I made my talent myself
this expansion i got it from the site and didn't go into customizing it myself like usual.

so i don't feel confident i am playing good either yet xD

found a log : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wYbGa7tVN3gRWXHc?fight=last

[glacial sky]

ye i think this tier is highly focused on lifebloom and i might be forgetting to use it in raids as much.
in m+ i always use it all time uptime but in raid i forget xD

[severe shoal]

not casting wg enough, dont bother casting rake/shred in raid just hotw into rip for mana

[bright swift]

champion lol

[rustic copper]

I haven't sent hero on neck yet

I didn't even farm sott neck

[bright swift]

that's not bad or

[bright swift]

i'm getting my pvp neck

[severe shoal]

just anything you can see i can improve on

[rustic copper]

if you did all the pvp when do you get it

ok

[bright swift]

no?

[severe shoal]

who are you casting lifebloom on

[glacial sky]

while my parse was not great, i was still going okay healing and cleared all heroic.

but joined a mythic first boss right now and i was like 20% less healing than the 3rd healer.
I think it was shaman / priest and idk monk or paladin plus me.

i just left it coz i felt doing too bad 🤣 trying to improve first xD

[glacial sky]

tank i guess.

[gentle nova]

whats the stats on it

[bright swift]

mastery haste

[waxen ingot]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XhaJkGgPp9RNKAFj?fight=41&type=summary&source=914

[gentle nova]

can u link?

its the thalassian competitor ones?

[fervent mica]

heavy heavy mastery

[waxen ingot]

Any feedback? I know my convoke was delayed 3 mins in or so, idk they assignet it like that felt wierd but w/e

[severe shoal]

take control of the dream instead there @glacial sky

[rocky lodge]

hey guys, do i take myth track tier piece or gaze? my trinkets weren’t bad but weren’t great and i already have 4 tier

[bright swift]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=266314/novice-combatants-necklace

[gentle nova]

oh wow

[bright swift]

yep

people said they wouldn't do it

[rustic copper]

I should've done it

[bright swift]

and look at them now

[rustic copper]

I didn't realize that there was no neck until I missed a week

saved by rng

[bright swift]

there's no missing

you can catch up

you can do all 4 weeks

[rustic copper]

oh

I don't want it still

[fervent mica]

you can just spam the bot pvp

[rustic copper]

[fervent mica]

i got champ crown neck from delve box... pvp one is worse for me unless i sent crests into it <_<

[gentle nova]

i got this shit tho

[glacial sky]

changed it, Tnx.

[fervent mica]

^ yeah that

[gentle nova]

but idk im about to have 50% haste

is that good

[severe shoal]

also our apex talents arent the best its like a 3% hps increase in raid and you lose out on 3 rlly good talents, using apex is still viable tho

[gentle nova]

apex is 15%

not 3

[severe shoal]

okay more viable than i thought lol

makes sense tho i remember lb being like top4-5 when i was running apex

but i would experiment, see what you like more

but with ur uptime you're not making a good use of the 15% @glacial sky

[rocky lodge]

is this for raid?

[severe shoal]

yea

[glacial sky]

on a side note tho, on bosses that have big Slam/raid-wide AoE damage.
I think Druid healer really suffer compare to other healers xD

they usually all have a skill to instantly heal back a lot of healing when a big AoE goes off.
Meanwhile our Tranquil doing shit 🤣 before i can heal much, other class healer bring most ppl back to full hp 🤣

[bright swift]

yes we are not a burst healer

[severe shoal]

tranquil will do a lot you just have to set it up

[tough portal]

I got myth tier chest team

Mixed feelings

[glacial sky]

yeah, thats true.

should i lifebloom mainly tanks in the raid ?

[fervent mica]

oof

[tough portal]

But the other 2 myth options were crit jewelry

Total shit

[severe shoal]

12 rejuv ramp and wg into0 tranquil

[tough portal]

3 crit items wcyd

[rocky lodge]

isn’t it like 10 rejuvs, wild growth, tree and then your tranq doe big healing

does **

[severe shoal]

tree before rejuv ramp

[fervent mica]

i was basically forced to take feather... everything else was also crit jewellery...

[rustic copper]

@main timber can you help me understand why vaelgor looks kinda low for us especially compared to disc when assuming we use tree every 1:30

I figure if I hold for 2 mins it's pretty underwhelming?

looks op for like disc

[haughty swan]

if i have a maxed out champ gaze trinket but i got a hero one in vault and a mythic shoulders to make tier, what would u guys think i should choose

[glacial sky]

personally, i take myth shoulder coz the trinket is only hero.
if it was myth trinket then 100% trinket coz tier is far easier to get.

[main timber]

It's insanely frontloaded, and if you run 1:30 tree you have to time it very precisely to get decent value. Mostly our ramp is much slower than Disc and this trinket is half gone 7s in

[severe shoal]

oh

so a good thing i sold it for 700k lol

[main timber]

I didn't say it isn't good, it just isn't Disc good

[glacial sky]

the Tree of Life form does not actually improve Tranq healing right ?
any reason to use Tree form while we doing Tranq ? it won't extend the Tree form's duration right ? 😅

[rustic copper]

just looking at the trinket chart it isn't bad but this trinket is the only reason I might not open my vault in guardian

if it isn't like op I'm thinking fuck it

[severe shoal]

dont think so but if ur running convoke you want to line it up to be when u get ur 4 reforestation stacks

[main timber]

Yeah I just dont rate it that high. Your HPS peak is just too spread out for me

[glacial sky]

yeah.
speaking of which, convoke better for raid or the Tree ?
I personally like convoke more, i only switched to tree for 1 fight in heroic and run convoke for the rest.
didn't do mythic much yet

[bright swift]

Tree of life pauses while you tranq

[glacial sky]

wut nice ...

[severe shoal]

i believe most ppl at this point are running convoke

but theyre both good

[bright swift]

still applies

[glacial sky]

cool, thanks for all infos 🙏

[marsh prism]

my turn for vauult

[bright swift]

reforest tree also pauses

[severe shoal]

does tranq pause reforestation tree?

[bright swift]

yes

[bright swift]

post

open as guardian : D

[marsh prism]

y

im not doing that...

[rustic copper]

m+ vault is fucked in resto/balance

there's like 1 weapon 1 offhand in each dungeon

[bright swift]

We counted items

[marsh prism]

huh oh really

[main timber]

My Druid got Refueling Orb

[marsh prism]

is it guardian fr

voulk are they pulling my leg

[bright swift]

6 guardian specific trinkets in m+
5 guardian specific weapons in m+

4 balance specific trinkets in m+
14 balance specific weapons in m+

[main timber]

I have to trust them on this because I will not be counting that myself to confirm

[marsh prism]

ok

[bright swift]

And you want no healer trinket

or balance trinket

so whatever is least is better

[mental shell]

why do we take improved regrowth when we already only really cast it with high abundance?

[glacial sky]

I still 2 piece.
but i have 2 charge...

I wanted to farm hero head and shoulder and convert to tier, before trying mythic raid.

but man am i unlucky.

i run over 15x +10 dungeon for head and shoulder last 2 day or so but still not head or shoulder 😭 they still champion...

[rustic copper]

you brick your chance at vaelgor and nexus king trinkets if you go guardian

everything else is much better

[bright swift]

yes that's the only thing

[marsh prism]

girlies

what are we doing...

[bright swift]

I already have nexus king trinket

[main timber]

You have to take X T1 nodes and nothing is better

[bright swift]

and I can forgo vaelgor

[marsh prism]

bleh

[urban bridge]

So the salad bar trinket sucks? I thought it was a tier?

[bright swift]

it's good

[rustic copper]

it's solid

you also lose ribbon btw

[marsh prism]

my trinkets just arent that good

[bright swift]

2 weapons for guardian
1 trinket for guardian

3 weapons for balance
2 trinkets for balance

this is for raid

[sacred apex]

is ribbon still bis

[urban bridge]

Yeah I haven’t picked up a ribbon yet, but am running Salad bar and gaze which I’ve been really digging so far

[mental shell]

ah

[marsh prism]

sorry im gonna roll wit hthe resto open this time at least

[bright swift]

ok post vault

[spring fractal]

I don't think waiting to make 4set is almost ever worth it this season. Once you have 4set you can also get catalyst charges anyway and they aren't crazy rare.

[rustic copper]

2 1h weapons, offhand, whistle vault

[bright swift]

as punishment

ok nvm

you got bis chest

gg

[marsh prism]

the rich get richer you dumb fuck

[rustic copper]

won the lottery

[marsh prism]

https://tenor.com/view/fieryrage-osu-gaypride-gif-15515897

[rustic copper]

opens in wrong lootspec, gets 0 items that you would try to dodge, gets the best item in the game anyways

based

[glacial sky]

i didnt want to hold it.
i just wanted to get a hero piece and convert that... but i only have champion head and shoulder 😭

[bright swift]

I can already tell my vault will be shit

[marsh prism]

i have shit ass trinkets you guys are insane if you think im forgoing a bunch of bis shit

im always right

[spring fractal]

But that is literally holding it

[rustic copper]

what trinkets

[marsh prism]

6/6 hero heart of wind
6/6 champion glorious crusader's keepsake

ok i have shit ass trinket singular

[rustic copper]

that's not even bad

[cerulean stratus]

bro

nance shut up

u know what i have

6/6 champion heart of wind

[glacial sky]

bro i am using the champion renown trinket and Feather shit 🤣

run many time no heart of wind

[cerulean stratus]

6/6 veteran void suffuser

[marsh prism]

😭

[mental shell]

@bright swift are you dropping apex talents still?

[bright swift]

Yes

[marsh prism]

guess im crafting belt or something

[rustic copper]

wtf

[rustic copper]

what are you playing?

[bright swift]

yeah good shout

[rustic copper]

got a socket?

[marsh prism]

yeah i just opened a dog ass vault

[rustic copper]

from your first vault nance

[bright swift]

for what

[rustic copper]

was it a socket

[rustic copper]

paladins

[bright swift]

i'm considering this

[marsh prism]

i also spent 20k on a chest enchant last night thats the secret btw

[marsh prism]

no, tier

[mental shell]

huh

[rustic copper]

permanently behind gg downgrade your myth crests and make a new char

[marsh prism]

i missed you niko

[mental shell]

why take photo with no apex talents

[bright swift]

paladins mythic

[rustic copper]

take cultivation

[bright swift]

yeah ok bro

[rustic copper]

nvm

[marsh prism]

ROFL

[rustic copper]

it's not a hot anymore

[bright swift]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-ever-let-him-cook-awful-meme-cooking-cook-meme-gif-14480420958048402972

[fervent mica]

you could go heartwood instead <_<

[bright swift]

that's a good point actually

I could drop wild synth

[fervent mica]

or imp sm

[bright swift]

no i need another point

[mental shell]

when do you not take potent enchantments

[rustic copper]

you can drop ms

[bright swift]

cd is 1:10 right

of bark

[bright swift]

yeah right

it's a 7 min fight with constant giga pump

[fervent mica]

photo/imp sm is what i meant

[bright swift]

i mean yeah I could drop photo for that but

[fervent mica]

but if you're getting value from imp then its whatever

[bright swift]

photo is pretty good

[rustic copper]

I am trying my best to spend my mana

[bright swift]

what how

[rustic copper]

3 wg cpm

still not even close to oom

[bright swift]

i'm a wg lover

[rustic copper]

[proven phoenix]

3 wg cpm is just not high at all

or

[bright swift]

that's his point

[proven phoenix]

oh

[rustic copper]

3 wg cpm is very high!

I was at like 1

[proven phoenix]

yeah im a big wg lover

I have 6 wg cpm

its good

[rustic copper]

but if I have a ton of extra mana it is a good way to convert mana into healing

[bright swift]

unfortunately bark does not line up well

[distant birch]

Is paladins convoke fight

Or treeman

[mental shell]

@bright swift do you always take the 6 extra seconds on tree?

[bright swift]

you can bark 4 out of 6 healing absorbs

[rustic copper]

absorb healing

[bright swift]

maybe that's not bad actually

[rustic copper]

[fervent mica]

getting more dryad tranqs also good

[bright swift]

what

[fervent mica]

well, ths single target thing. lol

[bright swift]

oh

it does lower sm cd

[fervent mica]

its kind of a lot on the bark target

[silent radish]

Are their any opinions on the firelands hero trinket "Fall of Mortality"? its an int vers stat stick

[bright swift]

I'm not sure still

with convoke yes

always

[mental shell]

kk

[bright swift]

could run this then

but maybe that's overkill

[main timber]

It's a bit below average

[twilit current]

Gaze or Myth Shoulders?

[bright swift]

do you mythic raid

[twilit current]

yes

[bright swift]

then probably shoulders unless your current trinkets are extremely bad

[twilit current]

A later CE guild probably

current trinkets

[fervent mica]

shoulders

[bright swift]

that's very decent

[fervent mica]

yep

[rustic copper]

your trinkets are cracked

[twilit current]

🙂

Thanks guys thought so + I can get the good shoulder enchant

[rustic copper]

I am getting a lot of leech this tier wtf

[bright swift]

yeah i'm giga leeched up too

[fervent mica]

the catalyst change is amazing for leech

i just keep throwing new pieces in <_<

[latent hill]

Least we get something for bear nerfs lol

[bright swift]

I do wonder if RH will do much

since i'm not in cds

[glass crane]

vrocas what are you crafting this week

[bright swift]

chest

[fervent mica]

whats the tooltip on the bark dryad showing now?

[latent hill]

I just need higher keys for crests so I can craft something

[fervent mica]

thats so much raw...

[bright swift]

it does a decent amount yeah

[marsh prism]

10 is fine

[outer meteor]

is it better to craft items or upgrade myth gear?

[bright swift]

do you have myth gear

[fervent mica]

you should be able to do all of it at this point

[outer meteor]

i just took myth trinket from vault

[fervent mica]

2x craft and upgrade 2x myth pieces

i did... still have 30 left over

[latent hill]

I haven't ran many keys yet is the issue, mainly just raid / open world content

[bright swift]

I don't think RH is worth it for paladins

[fervent mica]

rip

[bright swift]

improved swiftmend does so much to it too

and you lose wild synth

[latent hill]

Rh?

[bright swift]

regen heartwood

[latent hill]

Ah

[native quail]

heart of wind myth track or gaze hero track???

[marsh prism]

wealth for choice

[bright swift]

it's probably HoW but

[fervent mica]

max myth how is worth more than max gaze on hero in a vacuum

but... sim these things

[gleaming spoke]

What weapon enchant are we using? Cant find it in the FAQ or anything

[bright swift]

wowhead has this info

it's not hard to find

[final blade]

is this a bad macro to use gaze? it seems like sometimes convoke cancels and I'm pretty sure I didn't fat finger anything.

/use 13
/cast Convoke the Spirits```

[alpine sluice]

When is it appropratie to use Ursol's vortex in keys? i find most of the time adds are stacked on the tank and don't move much and if there are any casters not in the group i usually use typhoon. Im new to the game and just wondering if i should have it talented?

[latent hill]

worldsoul

think its called mark of the worldsoul to be precise

[woven mango]

Did trinket changes really change anything for us? did it make crucible worse or not really

[bright swift]

that's chest

[bright swift]

gaze is not an on use

[tough portal]

@cyan minnow it looks like the Abundance module calculates the crit value using a generic function but it doesnt take into account the 260% crit of Regrowth

But the function should already support giving it a different crit multiplier

[hard bear]

Hey does anyone know how to make individual arcui icons only show in combat? Finally breaking down and customizing/minimizing my resto ui T.T

[gentle nova]

use it on adds that run away like the bats that fixate ppl in nexus point, the blobs, etc, otherwise it doesnt have many other uses, you can combo vortex + typhoon to disrupt mob casts that are deadly, they will come back to the center of the vortex when you typhoon them so u dont leave them scattered ( you usually dont want them scattered because you lose aoe dps cleave)

[final blade]

sry meant vaelgor

[latent hill]

shhh lol

its something rendori

[raw bane]

is there a conversation about our tier set vs. talent value somewhere I can read up on?

[waxen ingot]

wdym

[alpine sluice]

Ahh ok, that makes sense. I found that sometimes it seemed to do more harm than good in my case. IE; tank chain pulls but mobs get sucked back to the ursol's. I probably wont use it until my dungeon knowledge expands a bit more for it's niche usage

[waxen ingot]

our tierset doesnt intereact with any talents no?

its just WG healing

[raw bane]

the question being whether the WG talents become competetive with tier set bonuses

[bright swift]

makes unstoppable growth better but

[gentle nova]

yeah using it every pull aint good

[tough portal]

Mainly Embrace

With 4p

UG is whatever

[plucky flare]

I dont feel great about my options here... can someone advise?

https://questionablyepic.com/live/report/khjlbkaoiber

[waxen ingot]

How do we go about castign WG during our RG spam

i never know what to do

i just vibe press it

[gentle nova]

press it on cd

its one gcd for 9 mastery stacks bro

and 5% hps

[waxen ingot]

I have 4.7 CPM on it

[gentle nova]

thats fine i think

[bright swift]

I had 4.9 on salhadaar

6.1 on vaelgor

what

is that a real number

[gentle nova]

sure

[waxen ingot]

Idk i find it very hard to find mistakes in my logs, like i know they exist but its so hard to improve atm

feels like i just need to improve my taget selection and not spells i press

[fervent mica]

clearly thats the next 1 button rotation step... heals target the best person in all situations. YEP

might finally be able to stop playing <_<

[gentle nova]

their next step is getting rid of healer role and replacing it with followers

[grizzled seal]

BASED

What if I spec out of regrowth talents

[bright swift]

dude

LMAO

YES

play apex again

[grizzled seal]

Prosperity, wg, mash shit on cd

[fervent mica]

you wouldn't regrowth a car...

[grizzled seal]

I call this build AN (short for Anti Niko)

[peak jay]

Do you think resto druid should be the receiver of source from evoker's or holy priests? I have an opinion but just asking yours 🙂

[grizzled seal]

Neither lol

[fervent mica]

best player

[peak jay]

Holy pallies? ^_^

[bright swift]

definitely not

[grizzled seal]

In my raid I'd give it to our disc priest

Druid has infinite mana and healing isn't that good

[main timber]

Just give Source to your highest HPS player

[grizzled seal]

But if your best healer is whatever else then give it to them

[main timber]

The mana return is 0

[grizzled seal]

Yeah

[bright swift]

Why did my hpala have source over me on Dragons

[plain cedar]

is it weird this crucilble of erratic energies trinket sims higher than my vaelgors final stare

[bright swift]

I feel like complaining about that to the guild is petty

[peak jay]

Oh really. I could have swore having source in M+ made a difference

[main timber]

No, it is very OP for its item level - even as a crit trinket

[thorn plover]

lfr experience

[main timber]

Check their log. It is basically invisible

[fervent mica]

mana doesn't exist in m+

[waxen ingot]

I am running out of mana my self

or well

im on the edge of running out

[plain cedar]

ok cool, thanks

[waxen ingot]

feral frenzy barely keeps me at around 5% on most kills at the end

[grizzled seal]

Ok I do not support photo

[waxen ingot]

idk how does nico have 30% left

[bright swift]

why not

it's not that bad

I've seen it do like 3-4%

[grizzled seal]

Does it even cleave well?

On yourself?

[bright swift]

no on verdancy

[grizzled seal]

I'm not a fan of dropping thriving

[bright swift]

sure

[waxen ingot]

how bored r yall with this tier

[glass crane]

rycn said he checked one of his vanguard logs and photo was 3.5%

[waxen ingot]

to have this convo

AHHA

[grizzled seal]

Did he lifebloom one of the tanks?

[bright swift]

that's not bad or

5% lol

[grizzled seal]

2.8 verdancy without apex?

[bright swift]

yes

[grizzled seal]

I assume

Hmm

[bright swift]

better with VI ofc

(this is VI)

[grizzled seal]

Yeah but apex is better with prosp

[bright swift]

for sure

[waxen ingot]

Wait what

[glass crane]

didn't say, but I assume a lot of the value was healing off absorbs

[grizzled seal]

You have +1.5 sm

[bright swift]

but I wasn't serious about playing that build above

[grizzled seal]

Absorbs are gone in 2 gcds

[waxen ingot]

[grizzled seal]

Did they not play monks?

Now that monk self healing is fixed too

[bright swift]

they fixed what?

[grizzled seal]

I cant imagine any other spec even doing half of that shit

Monks have a passive that makes vivify (and its replacement) do 60% more on themselves

It wasn't working before today

And it was the only spell monks spammed on this mechanic

[bright swift]

oh it was broken before?

and now works?

[grizzled seal]

Yes

[bright swift]

I thought that was already a thing

[grizzled seal]

The list of what was broken for monk can fill a guide

[bright swift]

I really wanna know what the value of UG is

cuz i'll drop that for photo instantly if it isn't 4% or higher

which it surely isn't

[grizzled seal]

It's not 4%

[bright swift]

if you can lb a tank

photo is great

on paladins you can

and then you swap to yourself for the healing absorbs

[grizzled seal]

Yeah true

The absorbs are so nuked though

Actually kinda sad

[bright swift]

are they really

[grizzled seal]

Yes

You will see

6 healing you guys will average 120k hps or some shit

[bright swift]

we have to 6 heal

our mw is a tank player

[grizzled seal]

I geared a monk

Wasn't that hard

[bright swift]

No but he's not a healer

lol

[grizzled seal]

I meant more like you could do it

No pash

[bright swift]

my monk is lv 80

[gentle nova]

9% wg healing per pt, 2 points is 3.3% in your saladbar

[grizzled seal]

That's 4 hours

[whole horizon]

i believe in you

[gentle nova]

so ug is trash

[bright swift]

yeah so you gain photo and improved swiftmend

yea

[grizzled seal]

Show monks casts

[rustic copper]

both look like this on absorbs

[proven phoenix]

whats the build then

I dont think we 6 heal anymore either

[grizzled seal]

I did more than your monks while playing on 260 ilvl monk with no tier and pressing wrong buttons

Good effort

[bright swift]

my new default build

[grizzled seal]

That's cap

What DPS check are you meeting with 5

[proven phoenix]

so ug sucks is what you're saying

[bright swift]

it does

[glass crane]

nice except get rid of that dogshit griefer talent convoke

[proven phoenix]

[bright swift]

?

why is convoke grief

[proven phoenix]

how much photo value do u get without apex

[glass crane]

this is a tree tier and everyone in this discord has brain damage

[bright swift]

how

i mean I haven't tested it enough

I played it on dragons