balance

[split marsh]

hi guys i have a question, whitch pot end flask is right for me at keys end raids

[lucid olive]

read consumable page on wowhead or compendium guide linked in channel description

[hollow mist]

[copper vessel]

starweaver vs rattle the stars. why most boomies go starweaver? is the solstice proc a factor here?

[lucid olive]

among other things

[proven swallow]

nice for movement as well

[lucid olive]

more tier set procs as well

Rattle is decidedly ahead in sims if you disable the current tier set

[copper vessel]

aha

thx

[lucid olive]

and numerically yes, the Solstice proc is a factor - since the tier set also increases the dmg of Shooting Stars, but it's only partly what makes Starweaver competitive.
General boss design in raid plays a big part, since Starweaver's damage profile works best for fights with sporadic add spawns like Vorasius and Salhadaar. Talents that interact with Starfall are also suddenly great at low target counts - Like the Aetherial Kindling+Meteorites build people play for Belo'ren. Choosing Starfall talents lets you press it on Touch the Cosmos procs, which leads to more spenders cast overall since Starweaver has higher chance to proc from Starfall.

Rattle is also incredibly boring, at least in raid. Static Eclipse timers with very strict "spam Wrath for 6 seconds -> Press Eclipse -> Cast Starsurge 3 times" without anything else added inbetween becomes insanely montonous really fast.

[copper vessel]

that's true it's monotonous

[lucid olive]

For Mythic+ specifically, Starweaver is generally more consistent with prio damage on important mobs or bosses with add spawns. Rattle is better at pure ST and on packs with consistently 6+ mobs with equal prio (these packs don't really exist)

[copper vessel]

I mean pure ST probably starweaver isn't that far behind with the dots extends on starfall

I will sim it anyway 🙂

[lucid olive]

that kinda depends i think

can be weird if you just look at sim number at the end

cause EC sims considerably higher than KOTG

but yes, Starweaver is only little under 1% behind the 1min convoke ST build

[copper vessel]

interesting

[lucid olive]

that build is only really played for Lura

highest simming EC build has only been played for Belo'ren i think

unless someone is memeing voidspire reclear

nvm nobody has played it yet

[copper vessel]

Have been playing only EC and now trying Keeper for raids. I'm still learning all the nuances.

[lucid olive]

should read the Compendium guide linked in channel description

specifically look at these collapsibles

they can have some useful information in them

[copper vessel]

will do

[fathom nebula]

Those are new 😮

[rough flax]

For beloren mythic if both adds are stacked, will the aoe from solar beam interact with the other color add and fuck up?

[nova ocean]

Do u understand how that mechanic works

[rough flax]

The vods i watched are saying to kick the adds of your own color and if you kick one of the other color it fucks up

so idk, thats why i am asking if solar beam aoe field as impact on it

[exotic perch]

Solar beam im p sure doesn't silence them

[rough flax]

but it does interrupt the add you target right ?

[exotic perch]

Yea it would if correct color

[rough flax]

aight thx

[exotic perch]

Moonkin kicking is dire on that fight tho

Let the other better range kicks control it

[nova ocean]

It doesn't fuck up anything other then it literally does nothing if u kick the wrong color

[lucid olive]

its not like kicking the wrong color is a wipe

its just a wasted kick

[rough flax]

fair enough, should have read the ingame tool tip.
was just watching the video and the guy mentioned that you could only interrupt your own color just assugmed it would fuck up if you didnt my bad

[lucid olive]

also, the default answer to this in any boss fight is no

very rare for modern raid fights to have adds that can be silenced by solar beam

and if there are any then that's the exception

[rough flax]

bcs its only the target that get the intterupt effect, the adds around it only get the silence from the area right ?

[lucid olive]

because the NPCs are flagged as not able to be silenced

some NPCs are, some others aren't

can't apply logic to what is essentially a blizzard employee pressing some buttons

[lucid olive]

yeah, you interrupt the main target and silence anything around it

complete RNG whether the silence works or not

in raid it usually doesn't

in M+ it can, like on Lorthraxion or whatever in Nexus Point

[exotic perch]

They don't want our kick to be actually good

That's why most the mobs are unsilenceable

Would prob be too op

[drifting nova]

druid? op?

you must be lost

[lucid olive]

I miss Anduin p2 adds

[nova ocean]

Same

[normal pilot]

beam in legion m+ was insane before blizz decided they hate aoe

pull everything silence everything spam starfall every gcd

[lucid olive]

when i say something i'm like 90% sure of and then see "gastank is typing" after

[nova ocean]

They took away all our unique utility

We used to have solar beam silence some adds on boss and mass root could take adds out forever with two moonkins

[drifting nova]

and then the clankers took over

[nova ocean]

I think beam worked on intermission adds on raz that's probably the last time

[exotic perch]

I hated that fight lol

[nova ocean]

That was also the last time moonkin was used on final boss

We should bitch like dks when grip doesn't work even though we have mark technically

[normal pilot]

i mean utility wasn't the reason

that was around the time we lost the lock dev and got the feral dev

lost dev roulette unlucky

[nova ocean]

We didn't really do good damage tho on raz and p1 we sat in bear form hoping to not die to everything

[lucid olive]

I think moonkin being used on Raszageth was a lingering effect from RWF using them

and the boss that RWF progressed was completely different boss than everyone else

Moonkin didn't lose as much ST dam from taking AoE talents as others did

so you could talent for intermission adds without completely ruining your boss dam

don't think it had much to do with beam idk

[exotic perch]

It was the best druid buff too then

Feral wasnt seen until amirdrassil

[loud kettle]

yea dont forget that druid sucked

feral only did aoe that season

healer meta was evokers galore

[exotic perch]

Yep and bear was ass

Prot war was god that tier iirc

[nova ocean]

I'm talking why rwf used them tho

They used mass root and ursols Typhon and shit tho a lot too

Did they have one or two druids I forgot

[lucid olive]

yes because it was good for the intermissions

and not terrible for the ST phases

the utility is kind of irrelevant

the other druid specs could have brought same utility, or you could use spells from other classes

[vital heart]

!sim

!dungeonsim

[lucid olive]

#1473018731687841853

[lucid olive]

you mean when we didn't play beam

[lofty depot]

my beloved

[lucid olive]

that talent tree has Circle of Life and Death on it

biggest dogshit talent to exist

[nova ocean]

They fixed that during that tier

[lucid olive]

.

[nova ocean]

I never said race brought it for beam I said we had lots of utility like mass roots

I said I think beam silenced on raz

[lucid olive]

you said we were used for utility

"utility" is fake argument in almost all pve content

you bring who does the most dmg to the profile you need

and figure out the rest

[exotic perch]

only utility we really used was ursols on the 2nd intermission

when all the little adds ran the middle as they crossed

[lucid olive]

and that could have just been any other class with a cc

[exotic perch]

but even then you just used other stuns lol

[lofty depot]

used incap to hit a lot of the orbs

[lucid olive]

landslide evoker for instance

shaman and mage could solo sparks

[lofty depot]

u could jump incap and hit like 6 or some shot

[lucid olive]

the talent tree and dmg profile we on launch was really good for Diurna and good for Raszageth intermission adds

but the intermission that RWF progged was very different than anyone else

[nova ocean]

Liquid also ran resto not moonkin didn't they

[lucid olive]

no they both ran moonkin

drenaco and goop played raszageth

i guess not goop, they played baboombabam instead

[nova ocean]

Google ai sucks then

[lucid olive]

yeah i dont imagine WoW being popular enough for google to get raid comps right

[unborn bridge]

how does spreading sunfire work? do I just press it on a mob once pack is gathered?

[lucid olive]

yes

ideally on a mob in the middle of all the other mobs

and not a mob on the edge

[unborn bridge]

and ideally moonfire while tank gathers right?

[lucid olive]

yeah

twin moons also doesn't work unless you're in combat with the mob so if you're early you'll only moonfire 1 mob instead of two

[verbal shadow]

If you guys could see any buffs to moonkin, what would you like and why?

[lucid olive]

20% aura buff so i can do big dam

i'm already doing big dam but imagine if i did 20% more of it

id be unstoppable

[steel pulsar]

Whats the first buff that gets used up for the free spell? Touch of the cosmos or Starweaver? How do i set it up intuitively to know exactly whats going on instantly?

[normal pilot]

weaver->touch->AC at last check

unless dev decided to stealth change it

[steel pulsar]

What is AC?

[lucid olive]

astral communion

[steel pulsar]

How to best deal with this? Is it just as simple as prioritizing the spell based on target count first, and then whatever is glowy press that? Or if we are on full astral power we want to leave the glowy thing alone for an extra gcd?

[lucid olive]

If you have
Touch the Cosmos + Free Starfall = Press Starfall
Touch the Cosmos + Free Starsurge = Press Starsurge
Touch the Cosmos = Press Starfall if you're playing Starfall talents

if youre at full AP you can maybe spend one that isn't free

if you do the first option then you can proc a free Starsurge and you'll spend the free one

you can also delay spending Starweaver when you're outside of Eclipse while building with Wrath, but you kinda need to spend it (or enter Eclipse) when you proc Cosmos or you risk munching a proc

[steel pulsar]

if we are on full astral power and on giga aoe, and we got a free starsurge and touch of the cosmos, do we just not do the first thing you said where you press starsurge?

because all the intricacies occur when u do have capped astral power imo

[lucid olive]

yeah in AoE pulls you spend the Starsurge for Solstice uptime but you can delay it if you're giga capping on AP

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@brave gulch they got another one

[dull dust]

[wicked shuttle]

@brave gulch

[brave gulch]

MRBEAST

[steel pulsar]

at the end of the day, do i just vibe it out or is following the strict prio that much superior?

[lucid olive]

its definitely a vibe thing

the entire spec is a vibe thing

some stuff just makes sense but people still confuse them

like pooling for an eclipse that doesnt need to be immediately pressed

[steel pulsar]

i suppose it is like devourer then

[fathom nebula]

#showtooltip Innervate
/cast [@Kreuber] Innervate

Why does this sometime work and sometimes i can spam it for like 5 seconds before it does anything. Not casting anything and im in the same realm (Doing it during crystal).
Sometimes it just works as i cast it

[lucid olive]

is the guy in range

[fathom nebula]

Same realm too

[lucid olive]

does it have a range even idk

[fathom nebula]

its Mythic lura, shoulds be?

[lofty depot]

theres not different realms during the crystals or

[fathom nebula]

Nop

its on the second set, im wondering if us being in different realms in the first one are messing or somethign.. its so weird

got my recoding up now tho

[lofty depot]

shrug

use it on the first one then 😛

[pallid bay]

[lofty depot]

losing an innervate sending on 2nd

smh

big 9m innervate

mmhm mmhm

[copper gate]

I sent mine on first and another one during p2

[ember dock]

Im a pleb, on crown mythic p1, should I just spam starfall or starsurge the main target? it dies fast enough I guess, I am a bit overwhelmed by the fight since I am an unc 😄

[lucid olive]

bro i press the button and hear the sound effect

then i go about my business

[lofty depot]

why u spamming starfall, those adds dont amtter

[copper gate]

Surge

[fathom nebula]

Kinda what i do too and it triggers me when i dont hear innervate cast sound 😄

[copper gate]

Your Starfall is probably going to fuck the debuff being applied to the big adds too

They’ll drift toward you

[lofty depot]

not if u stand on edge :/

[copper gate]

[lofty depot]

position better

smh

[pallid bay]

pressing starfall there is kinda pointless

u can do it when u go to the third guy tbf

cause there's like 10 small adds

[lofty depot]

i spam like 6 starfalls during that 1m cd mmhm mmhm

[copper gate]

Not 7?

[lofty depot]

6 are buffed by apex silly

[lucid olive]

[copper gate]

[lucid olive]

imagine tww bounteus bloom on p1 alleria

[pallid bay]

idk fight kinda sucks

need to push earlier

just standing around waiting for arrow

[lucid olive]

i havent done alleria since prog but it was really fun on prog

[pallid bay]

yeah now u just

wait 20s

for arrow

[lucid olive]

love that

heard lust timer is different too

[pallid bay]

we lusted like

[lucid olive]

or is that fake news

[pallid bay]

6:07

[lucid olive]

ah

on prog was p2 entry right

[pallid bay]

yeah now you auto-phase so early if u do that

[lucid olive]

yeah makes sense

[ember dock]

thx

[lofty depot]

if u can get to 40% natty yea u just lust p3

which u should be able to still

people potting p1 then getting 2nd pot p3 still

[lucid olive]

im padding bro

[pallid bay]

exciting stuff

[lofty depot]

u off bear prison or

[lucid olive]

yeah their real tank players have to get achievements

benching tank to sub in officer smh tyrannical evolve

[pallid bay]

tank quit the game

but yeah im off

[lofty depot]

o7

[pallid bay]

bamkin stinks

[lofty depot]

what the

[fathom nebula]

Ever since i complained and i started shadowplay the macro has been working.. typical

[steel pulsar]

the ads have an insane damage taken modifier, u think u might be cleaving both ads, but 1 add is taking like 200% more damage

so it is effectively a full st phase

[lofty depot]

u can do fine doing both

p1 just doesnt matter

[fickle pier]

you'll kill the third guy with 10 seconds to go and you'll sit there with full asp doing nothing

[steel pulsar]

I see some people not using their eclipse before their ulti, whereas on wowhead it recommends using eclipse before ulti for the temporary buffs since u make ur cd stronger and only waste 10s of cd. Is it up in the air whats better?

[ruby badger]

Depends on the fight / build

Most fights this tier favour eclipse > incarn/CA due to timings of amps or adds

[steel pulsar]

i just saw the top voracious log for st, in the opener i didn't see him using eclipses, https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GLCjbct93hMAZHpx?fight=6&type=auras&source=10&start=14115779&end=14123475

[lucid olive]

you use Eclipse before CDs on opener to make sure Eclipse gets on cooldown

however much you play of that Eclipse is up to you

[steel pulsar]

his eclipse uptime in the first 5s is the same as his chosen of elune uptime, so he straight up didnt use it

[lucid olive]

yeah i mean, top logs dont always play optimally

its not like the difference is gigantic

[steel pulsar]

if u get lust later in the fight, like in a dungeon boss, and u enter the boss with 2 charges of eclipse, i suppose u just send chosen of elune without eclipse? I imagine all the gain of the eclipse before chosen of elune lies in all the burst damage of lust+pot?

[lucid olive]

is your incarn cd also capped

if youre at 2 charges of eclipse and 1 charge of incarn then you enter eclipse and play like 10 ish seconds of it before you press incarn

thats assuming trinket isnt in the equation

[lofty depot]

he said ulti

hmm

[lucid olive]

they should make a moonkin midlaner

[lofty depot]

then said chosen of elune

[lucid olive]

typhoon vortex W, Starsurge Q, Eclipse E and Incarn R

[lofty depot]

can we pick a name

[ruby badger]

ICoE could be the move

[lofty depot]

no

its called ca

[steel pulsar]

so generally, the less damage amps u have available to you, the less resourcess u spend at the same time till it lines up with pot/lust then u send all that shit down to fucking 0?

[lofty depot]

or incarn at worst

[lofty depot]

if ur in incarn u would be spending asp in incarn

it will do more damage in incarn than eclipse so u spend it all

[steel pulsar]

really? even if u are not capped? I was thinking that it might be worth holding incarn till lust if u don't end up losing seconds from it being capped

so u can double incarn back to back

[lucid olive]

hes talking about spending ap

you want to have lots of ap going into incarn yes

also want lots of ap going into eclipse

ideally spend to 0 before exiting either

[lofty depot]

i mean u dont double incarn in raid

[lucid olive]

yeah he said m+

[lofty depot]

he linked a raid log

[steel pulsar]

i mean like, lets say u got lust in 60s, u are sitting on 1 charge of incarn and 2 charges of eclipse. I was thinking it is better to use 3 charges of eclipse, and then send incarn. Usually this is for m+

[lofty depot]

and then said dungeon boss

[steel pulsar]

the raid log was regarding the opener, afterthat it was regarding stacking damage amps

[lofty depot]

u dont often use incarn back to back in dungeon either

[fickle pier]

you just use incarn every 90s with your stare more or less

and tell your tank to pull something

[lofty depot]

that would be ideal yes

[ruby badger]

I'd really only use stare as a tiebreaker if a dungeon has evenly sized pulls

I think pull size + how fucked are we if this lives long factors in a lot more

[subtle ice]

hey does anyone know of a list or smth showing what spells in dungeons are effected by avoidance?

[normal pilot]

i doubt it exists since someone would need to manually test every single one

nobody cares that much

[ruby badger]

It's usually very self explanatory as well

[normal pilot]

it's not at all since you have no idea what applies or not

if you're lucky you might find some tanks have tested some of the bigger hits

[craggy sonnet]

not-even-close usually pretty accurate

[maiden pasture]

yeah was gonna say

that website changes based on avoidance

so i assume testing has been done for it

[craggy sonnet]

everything thats tagged as AoE

[ruby badger]

That's not what avoidance does anymore

It's just chance to not take damage from an AoE hit, usually the only exceptions are when they're environmental hits I think

[normal pilot]

i know what it does

[ruby badger]

Then why mention tanks

[normal pilot]

cuz they someimtes care/track damage taken

env hits arent the only problem, no all 'aoe' is actually aoe

just depends on how the dev scripts things

[craggy sonnet]

starfall

[rare shoal]

https://gerritalex.de/blog/midnight-s1-aoe

Xeph compiled a list of things that Zephyr works on and updates it on a per season basis

Zephyr and Avoidance will usually work on the same things

[subtle ice]

ay thats a good place for me to start and get a better idea, pushing 18-19 atm and tryna mitigate as much dmg as possible so my healer doesnt hate me lmao

much appreciated tyty

[delicate perch]

Healers are not people and m+ is a minigame

[subtle ice]

fair but may as well do everything i can to make things as smooth as my bird brain

[delicate perch]

like clankz said notevenclose is pretty bis for that

[true viper]

Ou shii

[main pivot]

Is there an faq or primer for cats that don't rip and tear very good in raid and want to try balance?

I saw it's the same stat priority, so other than the obvious int weapon and on-use trinket it's an easy swap

I've been doing some delves and I can't get the hang of when to use eclipse

I think it's because the mobs die too fast

[dense steeple]

eclipse when you have 2 charges as a bare minimum

its mostly vibes in world content and shit

[main pivot]

I'm still pushing keys on feral so this would only be for mythic 3/9 and heroic reclears

I think what is tripping me is that feral sends Tiger's Fury on cooldown and ideally when energy and combo points are low

Seems like eclipse is better when astral power is full and that you can't just send it on cd

[lofty depot]

u do that essentailly with trees

and with fury of elune

both are modifiers

u can read dreamgrove.gg

[main pivot]

Okay

[fickle pier]

tigers fury gives you energy and combo points, eclipse doesnt so yeah

[bleak kiln]

Anyone pushed to 3.4k IO as boomy here? I'm not sure if i'm just trash at the spec but I do like no damage in keys compared to my devourer who's 10 ilvls below my boomy

[lofty depot]

3.4 is like 15s no

but ur likely playing wrong

post a log

[dense steeple]

16s

[lofty depot]

hm

okok

[dense steeple]

idk if this is meant to call me a liar

[lofty depot]

no i wasnt in game

had to check right quick

[dense steeple]

gotcha

yeah it "averages" to about all 16s

[bleak kiln]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/sargeras/rennala?zone=47&boss=361753

I guess this is the most recent log of the highest key I've done

[spiral bone]

Hey guys I just picked up balance for the first time in a while.. my wrath is not changing my eclipse to solar and idk why any pointers?

[obtuse robin]

you should read ur hero talents

[spiral bone]

Ah thank you I found it immediately

[obtuse robin]

no main stat gem, should prob sim but ring enchants/gems are the wrong one -> crit good, talents arent rly optimal (although its not what makes that big of a difference compared to what u're supposed to deal), u're not lining up incarn presses with trinkets, and my guess would be u're doing the same with FoE, u need to make sure to pool asp/fish for procs before entering eclipse/pressing incarn to spend starfalls asap for apex & Balance of all things, and u're also most likely not casting enough (lots of cat forms, u should spec into fluid form) etc

[bleak kiln]

? I do have main stat gem

[obtuse robin]

not showing here, mb

[bleak kiln]

yea I have it in head slot

odd

not sure whats wrong with the spec but would appreciate any tips with it

maybe wowhead is just dogshit idk, thats what I normally use

[obtuse robin]

running this atm

[ruby badger]

Your first incarn should be lined up with the first lust
1st Incarn: 00:35
2nd Incarn: 3:15
So you're just sitting on 2 charges of incarn from like 2:35 - 3:15

It's pretty good on the first boss if you plan on actually killing the blobs

If not just killing the chain mobs in the first area quicker will make life easier

[bleak kiln]

yea timings are def not perfect in keys

especially with pugs and tanks that u have absolutely no clue on pull sizes

[ruby badger]

Your eclipses are mostly fine but there's a few like this:

[bleak kiln]

ur saying u just pop incarn with lust even if u have 2 eclipse charges with lust?

[lofty depot]

u would press eclipse first but u shouldnt play the eclipse out fully

[ruby badger]

at 2 charges of Incarn and Eclipse at each, you'd be more interested in getting Incarn on CD first
But with how gathering the first pull in M+ works, like Arctic said, you can hop into an eclipse while you moonfire stuff, then Incarn when it's gathered and you're ready to crank

[bleak kiln]

ah okay

yea I dont eclipse while dotting normally

or try not to

[ruby badger]

It's really only applicable in the first pull of a dungeon

It's rare the situation arises again

Usually from there on you want to do all set up before eclipse then crank

[bleak kiln]

all set up meaning like fishing for free procs of starfall/SS?

[dense steeple]

does anyone know if the 3.4k achieve can be done multiple times per season

[lofty depot]

ok intermission on birb with incarn not bad

[fair pasture]

Is there a log about to be posted

[lofty depot]

i doubt this guild kills it tonight

first night prog

[dense steeple]

did you get lobbed?

[lofty depot]

?

[dense steeple]

or are you just pugging

[lofty depot]

mercing

[dense steeple]

mythic bird

oh

[lofty depot]

we didnt raid this week

i also need to get my other bamkin geared so i can

shroom did 11mil

[dense steeple]

what the helly

[obtuse robin]

PI?

[lofty depot]

no pi

i was getting 10mil before with convoke

need to play better

[dense steeple]

timing 15s with 15 deaths really yput things into perspective about how easy things are if you just play the game

[meager storm]

keys this season are also just kinda of a joke

[fickle pier]

bird egg? Ya I was getting like 11.5m on egg 1

was trying to math if venge tank 1 mage resto sham healer and like 14 boomkins could 1 egg it

I don't think so yet

[lofty depot]

uhh theorteically ye

would need like 20mil from 6 people?

if u avg 11mil on those boomkins its 30~ tho

[drifting nova]

hardest season since legion put some respect on it

[stone ledge]

more like hardest season since the release of midnight

[round field]

every season is hard for kekkers

[copper vessel]

are sunseeker mushrooms mostly for AP?

[lofty depot]

does some damage

but that point is random asp gen and some damage

[round field]

you dont have to press it

thats why its ok

[copper vessel]

ye tho im not sure of its value in pure ST

[round field]

well theres like

0 pure st in the game right now

[quaint wave]

Is the casted mushroom okay

Or unclickable

[fair pasture]

We play it sometimes

[slender island]

pretty good for burst aoe, for example on AA first boss it's usually my 2nd highest damaging spell; solid choice for imperator and dragons too

[round field]

filthy padders

[lofty depot]

aint no way ur pressing mushrooms in aa

[slender island]

always!! are u kidding me, such good dopamine to send it when those little treants spawn

on most m+ runs i've done above 12, active shrooms reliably do >=5% of my dmg, which is a pretty good result in my book for any one talent node

[round field]

ur griefing

[slender island]

how so

and don't tell me it's because of one extra button to press

[round field]

that one extra button means less other buttons

[slender island]

it is also another instant cast, so more movement heyyy

[round field]

and its meaningless pad

just let the real specs kill the adds

[slender island]

and i am this close to taking it for paladins prog tonight

🍄

[round field]

i will make sure u get gkicked

jk ur progging paladins recruitment is rough rn

cant -1 roster

[slender island]

yeah, we're ~70 pulls in and should get the kill tonight, but roster issues have been chasing us recently

[ruby badger]

Sorry I went to bed, I mean just doing all your AP gen + dots so that in eclipse you can just spend + starfire

[wintry basin]

I am tired of last dps on m+ .. can masters here give some advises purrleee 🙂
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3kh2jYRJvy4qMWxF?type=damage-done&fight=1&by=source
TIA

[grim trellis]

About to get a lantern craft. What is the best Embellishment for boomy?

[lucid olive]

press Fury of Elune before Incarn and not after

spend 3 times at start of your cooldowns

or spend 2 times before building again

Sunfire when mobs are stacked

your first Sunfire in that pull was 10+ seconds into it

[wintry basin]

gotcha .. feels like when i wait to SF, mobs are already almost dead 🙁

[lucid olive]

you're also not pressing Eclipse enough

letting it cap at times

[wintry basin]

and FoE, defintately need to fix this ... i tend to send it on cd

[lucid olive]

or you're entering Eclipse with not enough AP

[lucid olive]

You want to send it on CD, but if you have both FoE and Eclipse/Incarn available then you want to send the FoE first and press your cooldown on the next GCD

[wintry basin]

speaking on Eclipses, i am uncertain .. should i wait til SL is almost end before entering it or .. just enter it to prevent cap

[lucid olive]

You can hold Eclipse/Incarn for FoE but generally not other way around

[lucid olive]

you don't consider Starlord when going between Eclipse

you can use the remaining Starlord duration to generate some more AP before your next Eclipse

[grim trellis]

Guess I'll go with Hunt :LUL:

[lucid olive]

but you want to press Eclipse based on available resources

Fury of Elune is also a resource and not really a damage button

the only damage buttons you have are Starfall and Starsurge

[wintry basin]

I see

[lucid olive]

the rest are resource generators or damage activators

like here are your Lunar presses

it doesn't look terrible but the gaps are noticeable, and other times you press it insta as the previous one fades

when you should have made sure to exit Eclipse with low AP and entered the next one with high AP

also close to capping on incarn in some places

[wintry basin]

gotcha ... thank you so much for all the insights ... back to work lol

[lucid olive]

the actual criminal thing looking at that log

you used Wild Charge 1 time

[wintry basin]

oh no

lol

tell me more

[lucid olive]

Wild Charge is incredibly useful for movement

since it lets you use instant casts while you're flying

the best way you can consistently increase your damage is to handle movement better

moonkin is a proactive spec and not reactive

learning how to stay aware of what's happening and what's going to happen 10+ seconds from now

is the greatest skill you can learn

[wintry basin]

🙂 love this. thank you

[dull dust]

is gamz ai

I guess ai would've used periods

[loud kettle]

you can tell ai to not use periods

[lucid olive]

no it's just a steady flow from brain to keyboard

that is why you see (edited) behind almost everything i say

[dull dust]

[loud kettle]

i call that stream of consciousness

[lucid olive]

yeah

[loud kettle]

mine says (edited) because i skip words all the time

a disaster really

[craggy sonnet]

more efficient if you use less words

[drifting nova]

[void jacinth]

dont drop your chili

[bright vortex]

did a search and the latest answer to this seems to be from 2023. it doesnt seem to be stacking the dot any longer, at least on the training dummies i tried it on. does wild mushroom dot stack or do you wait until it expires to reapply?

[lofty depot]

the reason u use wild mushroom isnt because of the dot

u use it for burst aoe, which means ur slamming 2-3 when youre doing so

[bright vortex]

Got it, thanks

[craggy sonnet]

nice cop out answer

[craggy sonnet]

should still stack afaik

[lucid olive]

it doesnt stack duration

but it ignites

[lofty depot]

nice cop out answer

says should and afaik when doesnt know

[sour basin]

COPS 🚨

[steep perch]

so are we hella squishy or am i doing something wrong

[lucid olive]

both can be true at once

[craggy sonnet]

well, i went into the game to double check once i was at pc but gamz already answered as i tabbed back out

and what gamz said is afaik

(and fwiw, indeed it still does ingame)

[pallid bay]

Based

[vagrant bronze]

Hey, put 200+ hours into this spec all expac. but your going to go down in the tier list the more time and patience you spend on it xD. (how chicken is this xpac so far)

[lofty depot]

what tierlist u going down

[lucid olive]

if moonkin goes down the rankings the more you play it

[meager storm]

🔨

[lucid olive]

maybe you should stop playing it

so that it goes up again

you're keeping us down brother

log off

[vagrant bronze]

nothing like trolls within your own spec of a discord

[lucid olive]

i guess the spec has been steadily getting more shit since i started playing as well

[lofty depot]

"your own"

mmhm mmhm

[vagrant bronze]

i can see why noone intelligent uses this discord anymore. Not sure why i even came back to this place have fun peeps keep making the community toxic

[lucid olive]

@teal sphinx

[lofty depot]

@teal sphinx

[loud kettle]

@teal sphinx

[stone ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[lofty depot]

i could help u out if u want

u should use primary gem and change ur ring enchants

helped u gain like 2% there prob

[lucid olive]

cast more

[lofty depot]

well thats a skill issue

cant fix that

ooo unforch

cant read

[loud kettle]

gamz with the audacity to make a joke

in a spec discord

[lucid olive]

i know right

[lofty depot]

u think this good tech or

this good stuff honestly

[stone ledge]

holy

bros gaming

[dull dust]

what the fuck

ban that guy

[meager storm]

dot spec

we are so back

[loud kettle]

casting more is a ranged dps hack

[lofty depot]

whoa stop being toxic

[stone ledge]

cant stand still for long enough to cast 1 wrath

[lofty depot]

hes played 200 hours

hes learning

[dull dust]

ban arctic too

[lucid olive]

200

[lofty depot]

yea missed a 0

[loud kettle]

i barely know anything about shadow but went in and outdpsd other shadows by just casting 20% more spells

[lofty depot]

u do that on feral too or

[lucid olive]

yeah people overcomplicate WoW

[stone ledge]

some people just need 20 years to get good at something

[lucid olive]

casting the wrong spell is better than not casting any spell

[loud kettle]

feral is level 80 i fear

[lofty depot]

thats good to know

[lucid olive]

feral theorycrafter btw

[lofty depot]

gonna go tell my feral player even the tc doesnt play that dogshit spec

[lucid olive]

at least chancel leveled to 90 before he fucked off

[lofty depot]

clankz too

[loud kettle]

i have foresight

[normal pilot]

smh pinging for a dead doc

[lucid olive]

hey clankz druid is his highest character

[normal pilot]

truly dead spec

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-it-i-found-it-figured-it-out-solved-it-idea-gif-16482348

[normal pilot]

or...? is it live?

[loud kettle]

im just saying, raiders die way more than bench players

[spice roost]

remember when feral simmedc high and people thought it was op lmao

[lucid olive]

https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-tom-hanks-bearded-gif-11952701

[lofty depot]

yea then i showed them the real way to sim feral

[lucid olive]

for next tier i think crazy should go on a sabbatical

so feral can be meta

[normal pilot]

man this is still the last one how ancient is this there is no reason to "agree to disagree", am talking facts and data, u talking dreams and hopes

[lucid olive]

yeah..

[loud kettle]

yea lets use the blizz apl for next tier gas

[lucid olive]

wonder if we'd be better off..

[delicate perch]

100%

[normal pilot]

ya you can

[delicate perch]

Random people can’t compete with high iq Blizz employees…

Play the game as they intended

[normal pilot]

if spec breaks CI cuz apl doesn't work anymore i just replace with default blizz apl

man that was back in sep. 8+ month drought

[delicate perch]

Boomkins been too perfect, no one’s had a reason to be salty

[lofty depot]

plenty of peopel being salty

think boomkin bad

when they spam cast sunfire in cds

[lucid olive]

nah i think it's that ever since i got green name nobody freaks out about being bullied anymore

cause im just so nice

[lofty depot]

that guy literally freaked out

i think we bullied all the freaker outers and only get the frogs that come in now :/

and balance isnt meta, so no frogs

[spice roost]

i think the feral dev should

needs a rewwork badly

[craggy sonnet]

the one and only

[delicate perch]

Time to change that

[plucky valley]

This was in Brooklyn

Very delicious

[delicate perch]

Did someone fight that or

[lucid olive]

soup kitchen

[dense steeple]

i'm almost free i hate this shit

[stone ledge]

yea just finished mine the other day (swapped to fotm for push squad)

[lofty depot]

not even 3400 week 500

[dense steeple]

i hate keys

anyway do i have to do this to have resil keys or am i gucci?

[fair pasture]

Frogs? Hoppers? Fotm hoppers?

[fair pasture]

Holy shit I went to travel form earlier and it bugged out and it was just my boomy superman style rocketing through the air it was amazing

Oh lmao true

[dull dust]

u cant walk 5 feet in town?

u also dont need todo it no u can just look at ur key and see the resil level under the key level

[dense steeple]

i can, i just noticed i had it and wasnt sure what the status was of stuff

cause ive had that quest for weeks

apparently over a month

[dull dust]

[bleak kiln]

man M crown is crazy hectic and is even worse when ur the #1 rezzer for ur raid

legit died to dimensional slash for the first time ever because I was trying to rez 2 people lmfao

[lofty depot]

what part is hectic

[bleak kiln]

With all due respect, is this a legit question?

Because the answer is the entire fight

[lofty depot]

i just dont feel that way

outside of p1 its just a dance moving from 1 point to the next

[bleak kiln]

There's just so much bullshit going on CONSTANTLY

I take a lock gate and die to random obelisk beams

[lofty depot]

is that because ur team is being very not smart and taking gaet with obelisk or

and or ur melee being very not smart and aiming it towards the group for fun

[bleak kiln]

I had to delay taking the gate

and took at it the literal worst possible time

there's just a lot of responsibility on me I think?

I'm innervating on CD, main rezzer, only druid in the whole grp

solar beaming, aiming beams at adds, making sure movement is perfect

[lofty depot]

u and every boomkin thats kill it

well maybe not anymore

[bleak kiln]

the boss doesnt feel like an "easy" boss to me idk

but tbf I've literally never been a CE player

[plucky valley]

That’s a valid opinion to have

[bleak kiln]

like boss is damned hard imo

and I mean that makes sense because it technically is a CE boss

[lofty depot]

i dont think boss 6 of 6 or 6 of 9 or 7 of 9.... should feel easy

or

[bleak kiln]

Paladins didnt feel hard, but maybe thats because really all it was, was dodging stuff and soaking

[lofty depot]

somethings are more mechanical than others

when nothing 1 shots u and the overall damage can just be out healed and outgeared by 10 ilvls

but in perspective.... all the fights uve prog'd being like 30-80 pulls

ur going to get to lura and say the same thing

[bleak kiln]

Yea, some pulls are just dog for me and some are perfectly fine. Think we're on pull 72 or so

[bleak kiln]

our RL legit told us we're waiting for lu'ra to get nerfed before we even attempt it

[lofty depot]

it jsut got nerfed

get to work

[bleak kiln]

when?

[lofty depot]

last week

even then seems weird

ur gonna have to learn how to do kicks, memory game pressers and dodge glaives

[bleak kiln]

yea, we'll see if we get that far

tbh I doubt it

[lofty depot]

?

u got 3 months or something

[bleak kiln]

either we get there or I'm benched for the fight lol

which I wouldnt be suprised abt

boomkin just seems fuckin garbanzo beans compared to other specs we could pull in

[lofty depot]

i mean u need mark

but also boomkin isnt bad

if u just play better dont get hit by shit and do more damage than people u wont get sat

[bleak kiln]

Yea, trying. If I dont get every mechanic on pulls then it's fine!

[lofty depot]

lol im just confused what the problem is with getting obleisk or the puddle drop

its a slight step left or right

why are u freaking out

arrow, move out of group or wild charge to the boss to hit it

[celest phoenix]

their raid doesnt have a dk, ret pally or warlock?

[bleak kiln]

it's not that, it's just that for some reason i'm mainly in charge of it

[lofty depot]

well its possible those people dont ahve hands

or a brain

or good neough

[lofty depot]

hey can u do me a solid

stop spamming starfall in p1

[lucid olive]

crown is just baiting and soaking

mostly baiting

[lofty depot]

only thing getting baited is my boomkin that thinks he should be starfalling

[lucid olive]

take the gate after the 1st arrows if you dont get picked by the void expulsion at like 0:53

[jovial sundial]

BUt padding fun

[lucid olive]

if you get picked by void expulsion you stay behind and gate after

starfall in p1 alleria isnt padding

[lofty depot]

how u padding on something that doesnt count

[lucid olive]

the bosses have insane dmg amp on them

just starsurge

[fair pasture]

Isn't it like useful to kill the orbs tho

Or is it a perfect world where they die to melee cleave and incidental cleave

[lucid olive]

they will just get melee meat grindered

[fair pasture]

True

[lofty depot]

when theyre on the boss

when theres melee and every other cleave class

when u have weaver and can press free starfalls

[fair pasture]

Do they not have weaver

[lofty depot]

they do

[fair pasture]

Oh they're starfallinf when not free

[lofty depot]

mmhm mmhm

[fair pasture]

Yeah I'm probably over starfalling in that fight true

True good point, noted

[lofty depot]

just wait til i start convoking

[fair pasture]

I played convoke on it last two times (heroic lol) but I'm like brain stupid and I never end the fight alive

I just do it for parseing now

And that didn't go well

But excited to do it on mythic eventually

2m convoke or 1m convoke

Do people play 2m outside of egg

So many questions occur to me when laying in bed and it's a pain to go on warcraft logs

[lofty depot]

people were playing 1m convoke too

also incarn isnt bad on egg

[bleak kiln]

so I would agree with you, if it actually mattered

currently we're killing all the mino bosses fine

we even wait 10 seconds for arrows when last mino boss is at 0%

[fair pasture]

[bleak kiln]

Is it like genuinely more dps to starsurge on P1? Since it's not rly affecting anything

[lofty depot]

yea but ur damage would look better

[lofty depot]

yea cuz the droplets dont count and the bosses are amped

[bleak kiln]

ohhh droplet damage doesnt count on logs?

[lofty depot]

correct

[bleak kiln]

Hmmm okay, surges do basically no damage at onset of fight tho

[fair pasture]

What

Like comparatively to amped surges?

[lofty depot]

what

if ur looking at details sure

[fair pasture]

It's not ur job to think about evaluating every gcd on a utility-per-button basis, your job is make number go up

[bleak kiln]

gotcha, what abt P2? Do I just still spam surge into boss or starfall until adds hit 0?

Don't think we're killing it tn tho, close pulls tho. 11 and 9%

[fair pasture]

I believe in u

[lofty depot]

surge

unless ur on rift duty then u can starfall during that

[bleak kiln]

Best pull 6% sadge

[inland jetty]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qa2JrPff78VRu89AM4m5kh why isnt 298 beloren wep + 295 crafted offhand w hunt simming lower than this?

i thought it was bis

[lofty depot]

295 surely

[inland jetty]

ooo

i was stumped

ty

[lofty depot]

smh

its curious u guys are lusting p3 when ur not hitting 40%

[bleak kiln]

idek what this is lol

[lofty depot]

pot

[bleak kiln]

ah yea, I probably need it macro'd or something

[bleak kiln]

yea idk anything abt the actual strat of the encounter

[lofty depot]

stop sending ur trinket weird

u have to press it before at like 430-440

alternatively u just sit on incarn til its up

[bleak kiln]

Yea sometimes incarn is like roughly 1min till it comes up so i've just been sending it during eclipse but ig I dont do that

[delicate perch]

Is boomkin good yet

[lofty depot]

nah feral god buffed so were shit now

[delicate perch]

Rip, try again next tier I guess

[sudden flame]

[fresh salmon]

is it acceptable to use vaelgor with lunar eclipse?

or I absolutely need to pair it with incarn

in keys

coz sometimes they desync quite bad

[pallid bay]

consider not desyncing them

[fresh salmon]

that means second pull in keys I'm not using incarn then

isnt that trolling?

[royal zenith]

uhm

just do 1st and sync with 3rd use, etc?

[ruby badger]

Why would that be trolling

It is fine to desync Incarn from Vaelgor's sometimes in M+

But I'd just wait until your next line up of Vaelgor's / Incarn rather than hitting it on Eclipse

Usually though it means you've fucked up planning if you desync Incarn from Vaelgor's

[round field]

cd without trinket fine
trinket without cd not very fine

but wait vaelgor is 1 min 30

dont u just have it for like every incarn

[ruby badger]

There's a couple situations where it ends up desyncing

The damage amp boss in NPX if it lives for 2 damage amps

[round field]

whats the cd on incarn nowadays anyways

[ruby badger]

2 charges with a 2 min recharge

[fresh salmon]

sure but then I'm sitting on one charge

waiting for vaelgor to come back up

like I have one charge of incarn I'm not using

[slender island]

it's absolutely fine to sit on a charge waiting for the right time to use, you're not wasting anything doing that

[fresh salmon]

aight that was my question, tyvm 🙂

[round field]

yea its completely fine

you dont lose anything until youre sitting on both

[fresh salmon]

tyty

[wintry umbra]

Are y'all holding some ap to be able to starsurge during the knockup on chim

[lofty depot]

Holding asp to slam asp on starfalls, but why we getting knocked up for full duration

Press gate or wildcharge

[fresh salmon]

what dungeon would you invest voidcores in to catch up on crit? since my gear is omega bad atm

[lofty depot]

Well u should invest in some sims

Haste gems and ring enchants

Think we're being silly

[fresh salmon]

yeah I have to keep those since I'm resto main sadly

[lofty depot]

No

[fresh salmon]

but I would love to be able to flex boomy

[lofty depot]

Impossible

[jade flume]

pit has good crit haste ring

[lofty depot]

Character bricked

[jade flume]

but u can get repeats since u have the neck

best to just sim and coin for whatever sims the most tbh

you can just drink crit flask with gear u have and should be chilling tho imo

[fresh salmon]

idk I'm watching some +20s boomy pov and they all have 27% crit and only 13% haste I feel like I'm trolling

[lofty depot]

U are

(stats don't matter, ur just losing damage for fun kinda)

[fresh salmon]

crit stat definitely matters

only 12 is trash for boomy

[lofty depot]

How do u know

[fresh salmon]

by watching people with way better crit than me, on packs they do way more damage by criting everything

while I don't

[lucid olive]

nexus point

[lofty depot]

Maybe ur playing incorrectly

[fresh salmon]

ty

[lucid olive]

algethar ring good too

[ruby badger]

The neck from Pit is good crit as well

[lofty depot]

He has the neck silly

[ruby badger]

Sorry I didn't read up

[lucid olive]

stats dont matter

sim ur character

sim droptimizer to find items that are upgrades

or add items in top gear

[ruby badger]

Can't remember who it was, maybe Gamz? Who showed the stats of like the top 10 boomie parses on a fight

[lucid olive]

should be thinking of WoW gearing as item vs item instead of stat vs stat

[ruby badger]

and they were all just random assortments of crit/mastery/haste

[lucid olive]

ducks

and pins

[wintry umbra]

This

[lucid olive]

oh yeah nice now deux gets a ping...

[ruby badger]

Holy fuck reading up is OP

[wintry umbra]

Damnit I should have turned off the ping

[lofty depot]

If I cared I would time a 20 with negative haste/Crit just to prove a point

But m+ is for the mentally ill

[fresh salmon]

chill

[lofty depot]

I am chill

U m+ers are not

[wintry umbra]

Can't imagine how painful those Starfire's will be raw

[fresh salmon]

how about u don't insult every key player for no reason

[lofty depot]

Im not, they do that themselves

[ruby badger]

If you wanna play M+ you have to be willing to be called a dog

I play M+ and I feel the braincells melt away

[fresh salmon]

what is this raid elitism bullshit

[lofty depot]

Get mad

[fresh salmon]

both content are great why the fuck u trying to be toxic towards keys

[ruby badger]

[lofty depot]

Both content are great?

Like I said mentally ill

[lucid olive]

arctic is just mad because nobody wants to play with him after doing 3 keys together

[lofty depot]

Im 3400 don't at me

That's top 1% or something

[lucid olive]

minigamer nerd

[lofty depot]

[lucid olive]

bro I just got like 4 message requests from accounts in Dreamgrove spamming to sell gold

the bots are getting a little too annoying

i miss warden

[fresh salmon]

ye on such a big discord u gotta have this

only friends then, much better

[lofty depot]

Then little guys can't dm him asking why Crit better than haste

[lucid olive]

who tf uses the friend feature

think only times i've added people as friend the last like 5 years is because you need to if you wanna do a group call in DMs

[fresh salmon]

everyone

[lofty depot]

Lol

[lucid olive]

not even arctic is friend

and we have like 100k+ messages

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[lucid olive]

okay we have 20k apparently

smeared on a little thick

but point stands

i have 2k more messages than you in our DMs, which i suppose is because i

don't speak in full

sentences

[lofty depot]

Spammer

"wanna make a lifer"

[lucid olive]

yeah that was funny

[lofty depot]

🙂

[lucid olive]

i should've logged on my guy

even forgot his name

[pallid bay]

colored name privilege

[lucid olive]

is it

they're literally just bots

[pallid bay]

it is

[lucid olive]

1 server in common spamming "BUY GOLD HERE"

[pallid bay]

you are being targeted..

[lucid olive]

true

[lofty depot]

Targeted cuz he's like #7 on the user list

Just gotta hide and they won't dm u, ezpz

[lucid olive]

depends who's online yeah, i'm either 6 or 7

[lofty depot]

I'm in a lot of choice discord servers and would get spam dm'd if I wasn't hiding

[dense steeple]

Damn I missed the m+ slammer

[royal zenith]

I dont mind!!

this is for a good cause

[lucid olive]

yeah but now you started typing

[royal zenith]

healthy distraction

[lucid olive]

I have a midterm tomorrow and need to make a presentation about the opium wars

surely you're a respected historian deux

got any tips

[royal zenith]

opium wars is not something I'm well-versed in

give me 5 minutes...

oh I remember this, I mean

what do you need tips on

the wiki itself already describes it's meant to make the upper-class addicted to opium, which in itself is already interesting enough??

for the actual build-up of the presentation, state goal en target-audience, give it to chat-gpt, let it generate a few slides and go

🤝

(and by go I meant use it as a starting point)

[lucid olive]

yeah this is what i did for my other midterm about global drug politics as well

asked an AI for a ton of sources and then asked it specific stuff like "how do i do this particular thing in powerpoint to convey this particular message"

[pallid bay]

burned some trees

used up some water

asked AI

[royal zenith]

made ram more expensive

[lucid olive]

damn right

[pallid bay]

[lucid olive]

the RAM i bought for 3000 kroner last year is worth over 20k kroner now

call that investment

[royal zenith]

btw didn't you get a list of requirements?

for you to pass

can also add that to the prompt 🙂

[lucid olive]

yeah...

i don't like to follow those

[royal zenith]

you don't like to follow the requirements you need to get a good grade?

explain the logic

[lucid olive]

yes

i just like to learn

the grade at end of semester is secondary to that

[royal zenith]

I mean, that's nice, but...

[lofty depot]

Opium wars as in now or like 1800s 👀

[royal zenith]

you're paying for something no?

or is it funded

kinda does help to get something like a certificate/paper to prove you have studied and learned something

[lucid olive]

i haven't paid anything so no clue

[royal zenith]

makes it easier to make money

[lucid olive]

maybe i end up paying when school year is over

maybe i don't

[royal zenith]

the helly

[lucid olive]

to be fair my history teacher told me she already planned me getting an S

which is why i'm taking it more chill with it

[royal zenith]

I don't know what an S means

[lucid olive]

best grade

[royal zenith]

like S A B C D

[lucid olive]

it's a 6 here

[royal zenith]

bruh

[lofty depot]

The fuck is a 6

[lucid olive]

1-2-3-4-5-6 are the grades

[royal zenith]

I don't like US's grading system either tbf

[round field]

six seven

[lucid olive]

i just say S cause thats globally accepted

[royal zenith]

we just take a 100

[lofty depot]

Globally?

[royal zenith]

and anything above 55 is good

or a pass

shrimple

[round field]

we have 1-5

based on 0-100% percentage

[lucid olive]

not everyone uses the same grading system, but everyone has seen enough western media to know what an S is in conversation

[lofty depot]

Probably not even scaling it either

[royal zenith]

I think bachelor/master etc. use the same grading

not sure though

[lucid olive]

ye

university here does letters instead of numbers afaik

[royal zenith]

funny

[lucid olive]

but i'm just retaking education i dropped out of when i was 18

[royal zenith]

I understand but like

your resume...

can't be putting "wowhead writer" on there!!

[lofty depot]

Why not, vinter has dreamgrove.gg on his cv

[royal zenith]

well there's a difference between a portfolio and a cv

[lucid olive]

that assumes i'm gonna try to find a job

idk probably got enough stuff to put on my resume if i wanted to

have had some responsibilities in local politics and such

[royal zenith]

if vinter actually put that on his cv, I mean, gotta start somewhere

[lucid olive]

worked as a journalist for a bit

[royal zenith]

I guess

[lucid olive]

had short story published when i was 15

[royal zenith]

ah okay fair enough

[lofty depot]

Idk, it's on his funny website

Just a summary of work

[maiden pasture]

putting a website you've dev'd on your CV as a web dev is pretty standard

[royal zenith]

in all fairness though gamz

[lofty depot]

Do u think professional gamers put their accomplishments on their resume when applying for a job

[royal zenith]

this is why you dont know what to put in the presentation

no goals.. smh

[maiden pasture]

depends on what else u have to put on, but yes you can very easily put stuff like that on ur cv and word it to benefit ur application

depending on role aswell ofc

my mate was a pro league coach and now works as a uni / college teacher and it helped him a lot

[royal zenith]

again this is a cv

not a portfolio

[maiden pasture]

its the same as if you went semi pro in sports, there are skills you learn there that are benificial to many jobs

[round field]

yes

[royal zenith]

study/work experience versus actual work you produced

[round field]

but you will also get laughed at

when u write

"semi pro at video games" in ur cv

[lofty depot]

Would someone get laughed at if they got 12th at the olympics

[round field]

what

[royal zenith]

would that 12th olympic win make them a good coach though?

[lofty depot]

They beat the 100s of other athletes that tried to qualify and didnt

So yes

[round field]

bzzt

wrong buzzer

[royal zenith]

then why are the best coaches not always the messi's or ronaldo's

curious

[lucid olive]

Having been pro in video games also explains the gap in your CV

which is probably something employers look at

"wtf was he doing for 4 years between high school and college"

it's either prison or league of legends at that point innit

[royal zenith]

Ive used games during my job interviews

but it's classified as a hobby

[dense steeple]

A 55 is a fail here btw

[round field]

some people just dont care about their life

and will absolutely rot on welfare for 4 years