and lust can be tracked by anything because sated debuffs arent secret
#balance
lucid olive
rare shoal
My question is do aug buffs have any impact on what you do 
lucid olive
no
delicate perch
yea I click my macro to remove it
loud kettle
#fight back
delicate perch
I'm bear forming any time I have it
loud kettle
cant believe they made ebon might uncancelable
lucid olive
youd click cancelaura ebon might macro to make addon assign a mechanic
had to get nuked
lofty depot
you cant cancel ebon might
surely the damage from amp doesnt get taken away properly
sudden pawn
delicate perch
very accurately I'm sure
lucid olive
yeah 100%
imagine if damage meter could accurately do aug
that would be something huh
delicate perch
maybe next xpac
dull dust
imagine if boomkin is actually turbo op and aug is robbing us
sudden pawn
if u think about
evoker has taken everything from moonkin
we cant have empowerments back cause of empowered spells
lucid olive
yeah evoker just became better moonkin
sudden pawn
we cant have stellar drift back, its hover now
loud kettle
imagine if boomkin is actually turbo bad and aug is inflating us
sudden pawn
listen here bucko
delicate perch
sudden pawn
lucid olive
the second midnight launched i took my evoker and moved him as far down the character list as possible
sudden pawn
my evoker alt was the first evoker that got the legendary from sark in my guild
i played it 1 season
said this shit sucks fucking ass
then i drowned it in the ocean
and logged off
lucid olive
i played dev all through war within
progged nerubar on it
did 1 ansurek reclear and then perma moonkin after
lucid olive
my hunter is still stuck in shadowlands
lucid olive
thats the only class i didnt level in war within
sudden pawn
but prob does alright dam
dull dust
i played dev all through war within
the guidewritter isnt even a moonkin
its jover dead spec
lucid olive
gg
i just played it in nerubar for prog and then maintained it as a split alt and geared it for alt raids and boosts
i enjoyed scalecommander in nerubar tho, it was fun
but 2 seasons of flameshaper man
obsidian jetty
imagine if boomkin is actually turbo bad and aug is inflating us
idk how it's done, but I've been thinking this. Then I looked at this and think the opposite. I have no idea how aug works, but I feel like it shouldn't be taking 3% with 40% uptime on (I think) 3% crit buff
lucid olive
i think the way it's done is that when you have prescience up and you crit it takes 3% of that crit
but i think its the extra dmg and not the full damage?
normal pilot
doesn't it actually track the crit roll
so they know if that damage would've crit with or without pres
if it was within that 3% you get attributed the crti bonus
deep quartz
nah it just takes 3% of every crit
dull dust
deep quartz
every crit ever, until the heat death of your boomie form (yes during its window)
dull dust
normal pilot
oh lame blizz just took the easy way out
rare shoal
im curious about how wclogs does prescience
Highly cursed
rare shoal
oh lame blizz just took the easy way out
Did you expect anything else
jaunty trellis
Hello, would someone help me figure out what my rotation should be for my boomkin as my dps is doing terrible damage and I'm over it. Thanks! ❤️
lofty depot
have u read any of the guides
jaunty trellis
i started to earlier, someone suggested i come here so i did i'll go check them out more
urban vector
i started to earlier, someone suggested i come here so i did i'll go check them ...
They arent wrong, but its literally this:
Perhaps you could ask questions if you are finding this challenging to get your head around 🙂
I personally use one button rotation to learn classess and then go from there
perhaps that will help you
jaunty trellis
thank you
urban vector
no worries at all, hope that helps and if you need anything further please feel free to reachout
urban vector
Its for sure a content question for me
if i played balance again it would be learning elune for M+ first to get geared
and then once i knew the class and the spec id be learning the raid build
lofty depot
thats not an either or i think
cuz u play incarn in keeper just as much as u would play incarn in ec
urban vector
according to the wowhead there is an ideal build for M+ and one for Raid
thats typically how i use the builds
jaunty trellis
okay i'm more likely to raid then m+
lofty depot
also not saying i wouldnt ask question, just that u need a bse understanding of the spec so i can help u.. otherwise its just throwing shit at a wall to see if u understand it
ok so in raid ur likely playing keeper more often than not
there is usually a fight u can slam EC on
urban vector
okay i'm more likely to raid then m+
okay cool, recommend starting out and practicing that rotation in raid finder, looks like keeper from the wowhead.
jaunty trellis
i've been playing this spec majorly wrong after looking this over...might be while i feel like i'm hitting a wall
urban vector
yeah probably 🙂 GL with relearning and feel free to reachout once you have your head around it a bit
jaunty trellis
i'm coming back after not playing for a bit too
urban vector
oh yeah that can be a thing for sure
lofty depot
is fine
urban vector
its changed a lot
lofty depot
suggest recording ur gameplay, getting an ability tracker can help while doing so
jaunty trellis
definitely seems so...so hopefuly that will help me get better dps numbers....i heal more often than dps but i want to be good at both
lofty depot
read the guide, record gameplay, watch the gameplay while reading guide
repeat like 3 times
then go log a raid
ivory crater
i'll push him down anyway idc
dull dust
stone ledge
this is the life i chose
jaunty trellis
thank you for the help
urban vector
welcome ❤️ enjoy!
ivory crater
<:lmaocry:1027863762868391968>
tho tbh i'm more of an escalator guy, stairs have too many ups and downs for me
ok i afk now
dull dust
pushing someone backwards down a escalator is diabolical
dull dust
lofty depot
the fuck u mean spoon
this was hard work
(i just got saladbar neck in alt raid
"guys this is 0.9% increase for prog i need it"... rolls a 97
fair pasture
does anyone know what addon it is puts cast bars here
for the enemies in mythic plus
it showed up somehow and it was great and i cant find which of my addons it is im going crazy
it showed who they targeted also
drifting nova
green crown
does anyone know what addon it is puts cast bars here
probably TargetedSpells, also - nice paint skills
fair pasture
Is that or an equivalent perhaps like a sub-addon of dbm or nsrt or bigwigs
I've scoured all of them and didn't find it but who knows
urban vector
it showed up somehow and it was great and i cant find which of my addons it is i...
probably just the default blizz bars in your cooldown manager
fair pasture
They show enemy spells ?
fair pasture
I was fucking around in a lot of add-ons yesterday and only did m+ today so I feel like it could be anything lol
urban vector
I use danders for it
nimble tangle
EXWINDTOOLS has one module as focus target spell kick
ripe slate
120k sim wat the fak
pseudo merlin
this guy at tormented demons is getting hit by every attack and using inferno/tbow with rune arrows
ripe slate
that guys surely not an ironman 
ripe slate
LMAO
pseudo merlin
was wondering why he was struggling on tormenteds with gear valued 80x as much as my setup
drifting nova
<@253616853157412865> arent amethyst arrows way easier to get than rune for iro...
yeah just get 92mining
pseudo merlin
cant tell if thats sarcasm
pseudo merlin
ye
ripe slate
i need arctic to tell me how he got a 120k sim
pseudo merlin
god all the onions in this third world shithole country are rotten
i swear to god in 6 months time i havent bought a single bag of onions that had more than 50% good onions in it
I fucking hate italyt
pseudo merlin
I just dont understand why this country is such a backwards shithole
drifting nova
to not have onions?
pseudo merlin
everything
functional roads
normal veg
internet
electricity
plumbing
water that isn't laced with arsenic
delicate perch
I just dont understand why this country is such a backwards shithole
you could be in america
pseudo merlin
you could be in america
nah no way the US is this bad
the food might all be fake, but it aint rotten
besides they dont even have fresh veg
warped rose
Trying to figure out rotation logic
Why is it that the opener is with eclipse over incarnation? Is it to be more efficient when we build resource? Same for potion?
Should i open the same on m+ and raid eclipse than inca?
lucid olive
Trying to figure out rotation logic
Why is it that the opener is with eclipse ov...
Should read the Compendium guide linked in channel description, it has some explanations there
warped rose
Should read the Compendium guide linked in channel description, it has some expl...
Oh thanks
lucid olive
For m+ you just wanna start dotting mobs while tank is pulling them like you would last expansion
lucid olive
The Compendium guide should be a good resource then
warped rose
The Compendium guide should be a good resource then
Thanks alot
pseudo merlin
like
round field
If u go like
pseudo merlin
Honestly the biggest problem is housing
round field
Eat out somewhere
round field
We have like the same prices as like switzerland
pseudo merlin
yeah
round field
And they make 5x as much as we do
€
pseudo merlin
My friends parents bought a piece of land in Rijeka like 30 years ago for maybe 10k
Built a house on it for cheap
It's a mil+ now
without the house
round field
Have to work
15 years
Without spending a single euro
To afford a 50 m2 apartment
pseudo merlin
warped rose
All western countries are probably the same... East europe is probably the cheapest
warped rose
Buy a house in bulgaria
warped rose
Ye minimum wage is probably shit there
pseudo merlin
All western countries are probably the same... East europe is probably the cheap...
missing the point entirely
and no
Croatia just become unaffordable literally overnight because of the Euro
In addition to gradually (rapidly) becoming more expensive over the past decade due to tourism and luxury migration
You can't just turn something that cost 10 kuna into 10 euro
(you can, and they did)
warped rose
Why would they do that to their people🤦♂️
buying a house where im from is nuts too, i did buy one but its insanely expensive
round field
Why would they do that to their people🤦♂️
why not
warped rose
If they dont balance the salary into that, thats just insane thats why
round field
i mean
u dont go into politics to help the people
u go into politics to fill ur pockets at the expense of the people
salaries did go up
just not
3x
more like
50% ish
pseudo merlin
It's not just Croatia btw
This happened in Netherlands too back in like 2001
We 1:1d the Euro to our G ilder
Some things literally doubled in price overnight
ruby badger
I don't think politics is a particularly profitable career in most of europe tbh
pseudo merlin
Only we werent a third world country
terse tartan
frail bison
guys kinda new boomie player with a maybe stupid question incarnation allegedly increases crit by 10% yet when I use it I see no such bonus, you can see haste bonus but not crit how come?
frail bison
its fake crit
fake crit? why wouldn't it show while the haste does? This sounds weird
round field
idk
ask blizzard
afaik it only gives like crit to boomkin spells or something like that
so it wont affect trinkets and shit
robust trail
what stat prio for balance
fathom blade
what stat prio for balance
check pins sir
robust trail
ty
fathom blade
all stats are good just dont take versa
delicate perch
sim it perhaps 
pseudo merlin
yeah but why would I sim stat weights if I can just ask
the answer would be the same..
@drifting nova 220KC
robust zealot
i was doing some testing with other talents so switched over to orbital strike, now when i switch back to whirling stars my trinket + CA macro isnt working, giving me a "spell not learned" error. Anybody know a fix?
worldly oxide
relog
robust zealot
there isnt another fix?
worldly oxide
Not that I know, can maybe try going into a different spec and back, but I've just relogged whenever I've had that happen
unkempt ore
Curious about these 2 builds being played on l'ura: meteor storm vs convoke builds. Is it a case of people having enough add damage p1 then they just go convoke?
craggy sonnet
there isnt another fix?
nah, gotta relog .. happens with a few other abilities on other specs as well that change spell id based on a talent. messes up macros
not sure why blizz feels like its not worth fixing
robust zealot
okay thanks
verbal shadow
Guys, I'm considering a balance druid for the first alt now we can mega upgrade gear. Are they still good in m10s as that's all I farm really. Are they hard to pick up?
spice roost
my grandpa at 100 years old can do m10s u will be fine for that
normal pilot
if you've never played a caster before it can take some getting used to, and it's fine for m10 cuz everything is fine for m10 but i wouldn't say it's particularly good
jovial sundial
Guys, I'm considering a balance druid for the first alt now we can mega upgrade ...
Everything is fine in +10
verbal shadow
if you've never played a caster before it can take some getting used to, and it'...
Thanks for the reply. I find the eclipse tracking is taking some time to get used to and by the time I've put dots on everything, they are basically dead
I think I might be using the wrong spec for low 10 keys. Should I take star fall DMG happens 100% faster
normal pilot
can try, idk how much it'll help. if you're already set on balance you can certainly make low keys work, but if you haven't decided yet there no reason to play balance over another spec
verbal shadow
I'm just looking for a caster alt and kinda like balance game play
But might just be meta slave and go UHDK
normal pilot
ddh is kind of a 'caster' unless you have one already
verbal shadow
I've got DH as main
I just want alt that won't get insta declined
And fun / easy to pick up
normal pilot
can see if you like demo or frost
verbal shadow
I love affliction but I am guessing that takes some ramp time and won't work in mythic 10
verbal shadow
I only say 10s until I hear up to like 280 or something then I go higher
blazing raptor
I love affliction but I am guessing that takes some ramp time and won't work in ...
SH aff works well in 10's. Not a lot of ramp up
lofty depot
Curious about these 2 builds being played on l'ura: meteor storm vs convoke buil...
The only thing u can likely control in p1 from a wipe damage wise is adds.
But with the gear, the nerf to the health. U don't need it anymore and can run more boss damage
lofty depot
Thanks for the reply. I find the eclipse tracking is taking some time to get use...
If everything is dead by the time u dot it, ur dotting too slow.
verbal shadow
@lofty depot so dot while the tank gathers with moonfire and then when together, use sun fire?
I'm going to stick with balance and try to learn it well! Up for a challenge
steel cedar
Hi together, quick question - is it worth to bonus roll for vaelgor final stare HC trinket if I have a 298 feather trinket? (in combination with 285 gaze)
mainly playing m+
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> so dot while the tank gathers with moonfire and then when ...
Yes
lofty depot
Hi together, quick question - is it worth to bonus roll for vaelgor final stare ...
Go sim the expected % increase and see
steel cedar
Go sim the expected % increase and see
I tried simming but sims feel very off
steel cedar
hard to sim for m+
lofty depot
Not really
steel cedar
Not really
how do you sim it?
lofty depot
Read the faq
craggy sonnet
can you still cancelaura the negative from feather?
normal pilot
no they fixed it smh so many ppl looking to cheat
craggy sonnet
fun police
normal pilot
🚔
verbal shadow
For a new mythic+ balance druid, is the best dungeon to roll in nexus point until I get 2 rings and staff. After that, I am not a mythic raider, so I assume I should get HC vaelgore trinket and upgrade to 285
lofty depot
Sure
verbal shadow
Or would you suggest rolling insta for HC trinkets
lofty depot
i had champ vaelgors and 2 nxp rings were 1.7% total and to myth vaelgors was 1.6% iirc
rings are 2/6 table and vaelgors is 1/4
u have a million rerolls now tho so go spend them idk
verbal shadow
Maybe I'll just send it at NXP to get those and use rest ok HC trinkets. What is best trinket to go with vaelgore?
ruby badger
Should be Chimaerus' trinket usually
verbal shadow
I was worried you might say that xD
What is another good option from M+?
Really appreciate the beginner tips btw
ruby badger
If you got a spare 5 euros or whatever it is, I'd recommend raidbots premium so you can sim this stuff in droptimizer in one fell swoop
lofty depot
raidbots shill, smh
ruby badger
I'd recommend simming to see if a myth emberwing maxed out is better than a maxed hc vaelgors
lofty depot
I'd recommend simming to see if a myth emberwing maxed out is better than a maxe...
(its not)
ruby badger
which can be your on use from M+, until you get vaelgors, for a passive I think soulcatcher's charm and heart of wind are serviceable
that darkmoon deck was meant to be useable as well I think
stone ledge
Vet stare is better then myth emberwing ngl
craggy sonnet
might be ok in m+
lucid olive
Vet stare is better then myth emberwing ngl
For keeper in raid yeah it is
For EC feather is okay but still probably beaten by Vaelgor one track below
charred mango
whee birb time
feral fern
how do i sim balance for dungeons? Hectic?
mighty mica
how do i sim balance for dungeons? Hectic?
mdt or patchwerk st, HAC is never an option
feral fern
no aoe simming?
normal pilot
you can use dungeonroute if you want a closer approximation of m+
lucid olive
mdt or patchwerk st, HAC is never an option
not called mdt anymore, that was a weakaura
and those are banned
lucid olive
gone but never forgotten
fair pasture
i found evidence of the cast bars in action
anyone know what these are from
the polymorph/arcane beam
kindred token
@lucid olive No ascendent of stars in CDM?
fair pasture
you need to slam 3 of those anyway to get starlord up
lofty depot
<@147914503588282368> No ascendent of stars in CDM?
what u need that for
count to 3 or
digital cape
if by starfall build u mean weaver and some other talents......
weaver and meteorites
delicate perch
trim cradle
hey guys... I'm a bit sick of it because peepz from other classes and such keep me walking on the tip of my toes...
HOW doe we sim ourselves for M+
Dungeonslice doesnt work, so what parameters do we use for a realistic image ( Keys m+ 10-15 please )
lucid olive
count to 3 or
i have it added i just haven't updated anything
in same group as starlord and then set to center horizontal
lofty depot
i have it added i just haven't updated anything
Can't count or
lucid olive
yeah i dont think its useful for other people
i just added it when the macro thing happened
and then havent removed it
lofty depot
Ye
lucid olive
but it does look kinda nice
trim cradle
Why u walking on ur tip toes
because I'm ready to explode and dont want to 😉
kindred token
but it does look kinda nice
Cool UI 🙂
trim cradle
I just need some help with choosing my vault , which is why I want to sim my character.. but if I dont fill in the right parameters ( category of fight, amount of mobs, duration, .. ) I cant really sims myself
lofty depot
"right parameters"
trim cradle
yeah, imagine me being a non english speaker natively and trying to explain as best as I can what I mean :p
lofty depot
Sim st, give some context to what uve rerolled and ezpz
trim cradle
ST is always going to give me the Shoulders in Mythtrack to take - Where as for M+ I'm pretty sure the Myth feather from Windspire would be stronger.. because the feather is of no use in ST
lofty depot
Feather is worse than hero vaelgors
trim cradle
so run double HC trinkets from the raid ( Chim/vael ) and take the myth shoulders ?
lofty depot
Would be my assumption yes
What did u use rerolls on
Should be either chimaerus or nxp at this point surely
lofty depot
Yes
trim cradle
Vaelgor and Chim to get those trinkets
lofty depot
Chim on heroic or
trim cradle
yes
royal zenith
yeah, imagine me being a non english speaker natively and trying to explain as ...
based
lofty depot
Tragic
royal zenith
and you're right
lofty depot
Uhh, yea just use heroic yea
dull dust
penis
trim cradle
I do not raid on Mythic lvl and am not aiming to do so ^^
lofty depot
U can pug chimaerus
But nonetheless, those 2 trinkets are just better
U can sim a funny 5t 5m sim if u want
trim cradle
ok thank you.
Thereason I am so confused is because friends, who think of themselves as pro-players ( I do neither judge nor agree or what so ever ) told me to sim 8mobs, 1.5m. then it was 5m/5m, then it was 5m/1.5m and it keeps going on..
And i'm simply confused.
dull dust
are ur friends warlocks
trim cradle
Warlocks and Mages.
dull dust
royal zenith
well there's no one size fits all for simming either way
trim cradle
I know, I know, I need new friends.
lofty depot
So like u can do that, but grain of salt
royal zenith
it's technically best to actually sim all scenarios...
royal zenith
if only chancel would finish dungeon route
dull dust
I did
lofty depot
But simming all that shit and 1.5m and blah it's all pretty troll
dull dust
dull dust
droute been working for a month
lofty depot
Dungeon route has its own problems
royal zenith
it's just information
lofty depot
Yea so is archon
royal zenith
you can use the sims to figure out when your guy wants a specific trinket for a specific situation
dunno, not that deep
doesn't make it troll though
you were also doing 40 second birb sims
lucid olive
you were also doing 40 second birb sims
you should see what he's doing now
big yikes
royal zenith
yeah I dunno, it's just silly shit to say
as if other people can't learn how to sim
lofty depot
Yea so silly
lofty depot
you were also doing 40 second birb sims
Yes but the difference is I know those r troll
royal zenith
this guy
lofty depot
The frog doesnt
royal zenith
gaslighting himself
lofty depot
Moron
lofty depot
Well I actively said I didn't want pi
royal zenith
hope you simmed with vantus rune on at least
royal zenith
he's not reading 😭
dull dust
vantus for the parse
royal zenith
humongous
lofty depot
Never killing Lura on anything but mythic
fair pasture
@lofty depot you recognize these bars?
lofty depot
dull dust
I did that last season for dimi
lofty depot
No
royal zenith
( 💵 )
fickle mist
<@121360917907767296> you recognize these bars?
this is norsken UI
fair pasture
tyvm
fickle mist
Has anyone bothered to figure out the BIS gear setup without access to Amulet of the Abyssal Hymn?
exotic perch
whatever you get and sims good
fickle mist
whatever you get and sims good
I mean with how many items we are handed this season we have a realistic way to not just use "whatever you get" we can build a theoretical pre Mythic Lura BIS imo
(I realize this is 0,1% DPS minmaxing - just asking)
delicate perch
lofty depot
Has anyone bothered to figure out the BIS gear setup without access to Amulet of...
Saladbar neck or pit neck then start doing other shit
But depends what uve crafted aswell
drifting nova
<:smokee:1114185254870208552>
should quit and start these vap es, apparantly they are better for you
lofty depot
I still have crafted gloves
lucid olive
tyvm
i updated the ui pack on wago earlier, think i disabled the dungeon module
think the most out of date thing was probably the cdm and ayijecdm profiles
fickle mist
Saladbar neck or pit neck then start doing other shit
ye that's what I figured - i just looked into other slots to get even more mastery since both of those are crit/haste but I think it's still the "normal" BIS setup with just a swapped neck - kinda nice
fickle mist
But depends what uve crafted aswell
I will be done with myth crests next week so can craft whatever I want :D
craggy sonnet
ye that's what I figured - i just looked into other slots to get even more maste...
Crit haste is v good
craggy sonnet
Purely focusing on mastery is a trap
lofty depot
I will be done with myth crests next week so can craft whatever I want :D
Well yea, but that determines what slots are open
To get the heavier stat items
mighty mica
eurovision
why? because UK got last?
mighty mica
drifting nova
UK coming last is a given post brexit
something something politco
explains half the results since then
craggy sonnet
Something something the song was bull
drifting nova
yeah probably, normally is
wouldve won few years ago if not for the ..incident
its career ending here but career defining for other countries
lucid olive
something something politco
like how every eastern european country just used to vote for each other
sudden pawn
as long as u know who loses, thats all that matters
drifting nova
Ireland probably had a good chance of winning if they actually attended
craggy sonnet
meanwhile the nordic countries hate each other
They also voted for each other tho
craggy sonnet
DACH did not.. they apparently do hate each other or are too uptight to share votes
lucid olive
They also voted for each other tho
i haven't watched it in like 10+ years i think
but thats the way it used to be
craggy sonnet
Fair. Songs weren't bad at least
lucid olive
eastern europe voted each other, nordic countries voted against each other
craggy sonnet
I'm not sure if Sweden and norway shared (these are the ones most obviously "hating" each other, or?)
drifting nova
idk who voted for UK prior to brexit..if anyone
would need to look
think my earliest watch was like 2018
huh, sweden also has 7 wins
lemme guess, abba
lucid olive
lemme guess, abba
yes
drifting nova
idk if a non guaranteed bye would even help that much
but not having to qualify makes it worse for sure
maiden pasture
alright smart chicken players
what can my char do to get stronger with moving gear around
maiden pasture
it doesnt
i assume like, getting dragons hands and moving craft to wrist isnt too bad?
craggy sonnet
i assume like, getting dragons hands and moving craft to wrist isnt too bad?
probably like .1%
maiden pasture
I think a new chest would be good
craggy sonnet
sockets, ring set, chest
maiden pasture
my expert
lofty depot
is week 500 wheres ur nxp rings
maiden pasture
is week 500 wheres ur nxp rings
this char was coining dragons / chim before this week
craggy sonnet
also what are these talents we are simming?
maiden pasture
ye i realised im in wrong talentos
craggy sonnet
ye, should sim crit flask and maybe get sockets for crit meta
lofty depot
we poor or
craggy sonnet
these talents are so cursed 💀
45s trees with 2min convoke and weaver 
maiden pasture
i think i just
copied some random beloren build
cause we pulled it today in a boost
i didnt rlly look into em
and didnt wanna play elunes convoke much
dis one
wait not even this one
ok idk where got it from
lucid olive
beloren talents are funny
maiden pasture
i need to clean up all my talent pages
wheres my cheat sheet for what to run on which bosses
lucid olive
moonkin on Beloren has to be the most diverse spread of talent builds a spec has had on a single target boss since DF launch
maiden pasture
i OS healer all the time
lucid olive
his druid isn't moonkin main
lofty depot
thanos looking a little light
desert imp
hi guys, on AA first boss. I feel like my ST damage to boss is always really low vs other classes. I only starfall when the adds the spawned and then normal rotation. Is there something i can improve to fix that?S
lucid olive
hi guys, on AA first boss. I feel like my ST damage to boss is always really low...
but the first picture is damage to boss
where youre 2nd
maiden pasture
@lofty depot give me cheat sheet
lucid olive
and the other picture is adds where youre 3rd
desert imp
oh wait, yes. loool. Sorry OCE morning, no coffee
drifting nova
where theres a belief there is a way
nimble tangle
8% crit?
lofty depot
<@121360917907767296> give me cheat sheet
idk i played ec 😛
maiden pasture
i mean for like
every boss
or do i have to go wcl parses and yoink shit from there
lofty depot
uhh u can play 1m convoke on every boss
mmhm mmhm
but idk i keep changing shit cuz my rekills are with alts
main raid i think im just gonna slam 1m convoke
maiden pasture
just cause u wont be able to pad or what
lofty depot
i ethically kill adds that are required to die because we will wipe otherwise
mmhm mmhm
but essentially eys, they die fast and 1m convoke go br
lofty depot
yea guilds letting certain people pad 1 week
lucid olive
<@121360917907767296> give me cheat sheet
do you use talent loadout ex addon
maiden pasture
ye
lucid olive
@wicked shuttle what content is blocked
lofty depot
it doesnt like funny code
wicked shuttle
"Blocked Spam Content"
lofty depot
wouldnt let me post trb string
lucid olive
gg
wicked shuttle
ok gg
normal pilot
tettles doesn't want his secret build leaking
fair pasture
mastery flask
smh guess i gotta go sim my flasks
wicked shuttle
seems like a waste of time
verbal shadow
for crafted gear. should I go haste mastery for balance?
drifting nova
crit mast makes swaping to feral cleaner
dull dust
⚠️
verbal shadow
i do crit/mast but it doesnt make the biggest difference
should crit and haste be around the same?
lofty depot
short answer no, long answer go sim it
ancient shore
does anyone else think that the rank 3 apex talent is really lackluster. I really want a redesign of just that part
loud kettle
nvm i lied
filthy liar
drifting nova
does anyone else think that the rank 3 apex talent is really lackluster. I reall...
apex in general are lackluster across alot of specs
ancient shore
I like the languish part of the apex, does a load of damage
drifting nova
so much so no one knows what the 3rd rank is
the final rank is the piss stars
that is it
ancient shore
alot of specs have great apex
drifting nova
actually I know 2 of the components of a warrior apex
but thats because one is a buff
thats tracked
or atleast semi tracked
not just ignored because it ..happens
ancient shore
MM has a good apex, sub rogue too
but yeah the point is alot of specs have bad apex but boomies have one that does 2% of your overall
meanwhile the languish/astral smolder dot does like 12% or more
lucid olive
The bolts are okay
normal pilot
i doubt they thought that far ahead. as long as ppl are taking it, it's fine time to move on
drifting nova
i doubt they thought that far ahead. as long as ppl are taking it, it's fine tim...
laughs in ..3specs
fickle pier
the apex makes pressing eclipse actually do something. otherwise it would just be a global that doesn't do anything
ancient shore
they need to do like 5x the damage they do
drifting nova
maybe like me..people still think apex talents are mandatory
like hero talents are
lucid olive
Yeah adding some visual feedback to Eclipse is good
it does okay damage, it's one of the higher value talents
normal pilot
well that's the idea make 'em mandatory eventually they'll get it
drifting nova
I guess that illusion has been shattered with guardians not taking any now
but initially I thought they were
normal pilot
it's only 2/36 specs that's pretty good results for blizz
lucid olive
Most moonkin talents are low value but that's a fundamental issue and not just apex talents
normal pilot
they'll try to fix bear/mw in i guess 12.1
if not successful then try again in 12.2
lucid olive
It's also why moonkin has probably the most talent diversity currently as well, most talents are low value
drifting nova
mistweaver in the other one no?
normal pilot
ya
lucid olive
On beloren mythic this patch there are only 2 talent nodes that haven't been played
normal pilot
altho i think they only ignore apex in m+? not sure
drifting nova
really should get around to making a monk, still have no idea what any of the specs do
ancient shore
the capstone doing 3% on a 5 min fight and the rank 2 ignite dot doing 10% is so weird. it needs a damage boost
normal pilot
'capstone' isn't a thing. but they can fix that by just flipping them
put the ignite on r4
lucid olive
The capstone is meant to give smolder value as well
lucid olive
Yeah
normal pilot
oh there are 40 specs. ok, so 38/40 using apex, that's a 95% orange log, pretty good for blizz
delicate perch
bit high for blizz, they can int a few more
lucid olive
Yeah we're about to get a real stinker
normal pilot
just wait for next xpac when you get heroic apex talents
drifting nova
incarn is fake
fair pasture
What that even mean
lofty depot
1 min convoke sims 4k dps higher than incarn
its been that much higher the whole time btw
but when adds live long enough....u can play other things
fair pasture
Yeah I came to that realization, and also I played it a bunch today and it felt less good but obviously I'm not used to it but also also
Is there like high variance in the dmg u get from convoke
Or is it pretty consistent
lofty depot
the variance is getting a fm and crits
fair pasture
I guess it's just way more single target focussed and adds are less consequential like you were saying the other day and also just now
I did a heroic crown with it and we wiped at 1.9% but I had been doing 167k according to my details
And that woulda made me 2nd or 3rd h crown parse but like I think details prolly was wrong and maybe included droplets but I'm not sure if it did
But then next pull I did 90k
On the kill
Sadge
OH I tried to do the chimaerus wild charge tech gamz was talking about in h chimaerus
And I launched myself right off the edge lmao ugh
I delayed it too much and was too high up and didn't realize where I was facing
lofty depot
not having warlocks smh
fair pasture
Do you ever want a huge cuddly plush toy of your moonkin
sudden pawn
ya
lucid olive
I delayed it too much and was too high up and didn't realize where I was facing
Yeah either press instantly or press right as you land
Also turn your back so you don't go towards the edge
Learning to flick camera around and be accurate with Wild Charge takes some practice, but can just do that while AFKing in Silvermoon
fast finch
Hey guys 3 silly questions; I am just double checking that I am not doing it wrong
- In dragons fight we spam Starfall and spread dots between the two drakes or basically single targeting with the starfall procs (not counting when orb spwan etc etc).
- In "saladbar" does we multi dot the BIG orbs (+ boss obiously) or doting the big orbs is a dps loss.
- Same apply for Chimaerus when the small adds die and only the big add is alive + boss we starfall while focusing the boss or single target boss/add?
lucid olive
Hey guys 3 silly questions; I am just double checking that I am not doing it wro...
- On dragons you might want to swap which target you Starsurge to keep up Stellar Amplification debuff (it's only really trackable in boss frame)
- Just vibe it out
- Sunfire downstairs adds, Moonfire big one and send your cooldowns before swapping to cast Wrath on the boss and spend with Starfall, swap back to Starsurge the add if it's getting dire and not being sent up or not killed in time for consume cast to end
lofty depot
- dot the off target one
lucid olive
Just vibe it out shit don't matter
lofty depot
says the one thats dotting adds downstairs on chimaerus
shits dead in 3 globals on jah
lucid olive
Maybe you're just slow
lofty depot
no im the one killing them in 3 globals silly
fair pasture
R u killing them with Starfall dmg
fast finch
ty ty
lofty depot
R u killing them with Starfall dmg
yes
fair pasture
True
Next tier set better give us a new skill that lets us pick up a treant and throw it at the boss and it explodes for aoe dmg
fair pasture
Yeah but this is way funnier
And I've also never seenthe mushroom
Because when orbs come out on dragons my fps goes to like 5 and dragons are also large
I would like to see the mushroom and also would like it to have a comical teemo-esque popping sound
lucid olive
No we just had a real good tier set, so next one is gonna be some straight slop
fair pasture
My thought process was "I wanna play kotg in m+" "I want some cool new skills" "tier set maybe?" "Throwing treants hell yeah"
Okay I got it, we make a mushroom in front of us
And we bounce the treants off of it
Like artillery
The technology is there, the mushrooms in the haranir delve bounce u up real high
lofty depot
We're revisiting hero talent tier sets again
fair pasture
Was that a thing
lofty depot
Yes
fair pasture
Which xpac
lofty depot
Literally last one
lofty depot
Well hero talents got introduced last xpac
No
Ours are actively shit cuz it was the first one made
fair pasture
D :
fair pasture
One of the dragon flight tier sets had like fire treants
Maybe that was firelands
Idr
loud kettle
fionix
lofty depot
Uhhh
fair pasture
I was looking at some of my old gear from wod and that shit changed stuff a lot
But we're post-prune and season 1 so like I have faith I'll be launching tactical treant nukes from a flying mushroom car by season 3 or so
lofty depot
We didn't get pruned so
loud kettle
Could use some prune juice rn
fair pasture
Are you constipated
loud kettle
no, im just allowed to drink prune juice while healthy
fair pasture
Damn what else do green names get that we dont
Arctic they let u just drink prune juice?????
lofty depot
Is that a pudding cup u old fuck
clever vigil
Old person drink
aren't you like 40
lofty depot
Don't u have 0 bitches
clever vigil
just factually incorrect
lofty depot
Fuck outta here
clever vigil
hi pookie 
lofty depot
Hi buddy
clever vigil
thats crazy
lofty depot
I literally just saw ur tweet too lol
Then u come in here and take the coals with me
Kinda toxic
lofty depot
Wondering if someone u don't know takes a picture of ur character
clever vigil
they definitely do
or they are like garyeet and dont wave back when I see them in silvermoon
wcyd
lofty depot
Me watching stream on 2nd monitor wcyd
fair pasture
Y'all young af
clever vigil
i'm unc 🥀
lofty depot
Surely next tier adept plays boomkin on last boss
clever vigil
anything older than 23
clever vigil
Surely next tier adept plays boomkin on last boss
surely
doing l'ura on moonkin would have been sick
lofty depot
No crystal just vibing
lofty depot
Fyrakk seeds seemed harder idk
clever vigil
from the little bit that I had to do l'ura seemed worse
but also maybe I am just not remembering the bad parts of fyrakk and i was just batchesting on feral for 10 minutes
lofty depot
Well tbf same
stone ledge
anything older than 23
warm meadow
was planning to get the staff from nexus, but messed up and forgot to change loot spec when rolling in spire, got one hander, do i just craf off hand then and forget the staff
bronze yew
is it just me or are balance talents just not doing anything? my hunter goes from 90 to 112k depending on aoe or single target spec my balance druid goes from 109 to 111 from m+ to single target build
delicate perch
<@121360917907767296> is this good
yep
delicate perch
is it just me or are balance talents just not doing anything? my hunter goes fro...
link both sims
bronze yew
just joined a pug no time to resim the hunter
if you see any improvements for st on druid lemme know ^^
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2Q448VevhKbH5Scboff9hs ohh hunter is from 99 to 112
feels so wrong to lose to a 3 button rotation with 3 lower ilvl
delicate perch
oh ya you can kinda safely swap a bunch of talents on druid tbh
vital hound
delicate perch
morb into logout
vital hound
vital hound
<@&114146878353833984>
delicate perch
<@&114146878353833984>
vital hound
sonic surge
anyone else here use gamzui?
there was something that would show u lust duration when someone popped it
its suddenly gone today, anyone know where it was from? i wanna re-enable it
royal zenith
@lucid olive probably uses it
delicate perch
<@147914503588282368> probably uses it
proof?
royal zenith
dont have any...
delicate perch
placid kernel
Boomy rotation feel a bit clunky? Just coming back after 5 year hiatus
round field
Boomy rotation feel a bit clunky? Just coming back after 5 year hiatus
It hasnt rly changed a lot in 5 years..
delicate perch
It hasnt rly changed a lot in 5 years..
oh yeah? well sometimes we.. uh and others.. uh
round field
Uh..
delicate perch
yea couldn't think of anything 
placid kernel
What was the rational for implementing the cast assist button lol
royal zenith
is it for complete nooberts?
what's the rational for hekili existing (pre-addon prune)
jade flume
for nooberts
royal zenith
what's the rational for weakaura's existing
jade flume
for gamers
royal zenith
s u s
shut dew
Guys, what kind of balance spec would you recommend for Belo'ren Mythic?
I saw 3 specs. 2x COTG 1x Elune. The goal would be to do a great amount of Egg dmg but still do good dmg in p1 
deft granite
Guys, what kind of balance spec would you recommend for Belo'ren Mythic?
I saw 3...
I like kotg with convoke, can recommend.
native oxide
are catchup sparks just supposed to drop from m+
rough flax
ruby badger
Guys, what kind of balance spec would you recommend for Belo'ren Mythic?
I saw 3...
I like KOTG 1 min convoke
Egg damage isn't super relevant anymore, and clearing P1.2 before 3rd add sets is really all you need to worry about which is what I like 1 min convoke for
- if you play incarn, you have to play your globals better in the egg phase to get the same damage as convoking
shut dew
I like KOTG 1 min convoke
copper gate
I had a nightmare last night that I was a feral druid
Really glad I woke up from that one
pseudo merlin
@drifting nova
drifting nova
<@253616853157412865>
craggy sonnet
I like KOTG 1 min convoke
whats the deal with 1min voke vs 2min for belo specifically?
ruby badger
In P2, a good time to phase the boss is the 2nd colour swap (during it), it gets you playing as few mechanics as possible in P2 while still getting CDs back up for 2nd egg
The issue is you're relying on your classes who can send inbetween egg phases to do that damage
So 1 min voke lets you send during P2, to shorten it as much as possible while still having it for egg
pseudo merlin
https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-aah-screaming-yelling-cat-gif-6527308437651260920
you donmt have one yet?
ruby badger
You can apply the same concept with Incarn, and save a charge for P2 (I never tried this but I think the math works out) but Incarn egg damage requires you to be a bit more locked in than convoke
drifting nova
you donmt have one yet?
I have 1, still not 2
pseudo merlin
rip
fiery kindle
Guys, what kind of balance spec would you recommend for Belo'ren Mythic?
I saw 3...
I choose elune for egg phase
fiery kindle
elune for egg phase
round field
susge
pseudo merlin
@drifting nova i just dont know how to solve arclight
I get like 1 ancient shards per 2 hours
so if I want emberlight it will take 60 hours????
pseudo merlin
ducks
royal zenith
hello
round field
ec is good on egg
pseudo merlin
Chayula minion monk
royal zenith
I think you're just lagging in knowledge iqni
which is fine
but the world around you is still moving forward
royal zenith
Chayula minion monk
I saw something like that but I cba with actual minions
round field
i would prefer to keep it like that
royal zenith
companions/beasts is fine
round field
disaster..
sudden pawn
royal zenith
that ele shaman is not doing too well though
round field
serene arrow
Do we want a set crit amount due to apex talents ( mythic + and raid)
lofty depot
so between 712 and 1045
royal zenith
lucid olive
anyone else here use gamzui?
pallid bay
!gamzui
drifting nova
<@253616853157412865> i just dont know how to solve arclight
just do catacomb tasks its not too bad, hell I've got 100% and not used it in like 4months now, still not had a 2nd synapse to make it, stopped using it for demons
jovial sundial
Nice length, good girth, hefty
lucid olive
copper gate
All my homies are allergic to vers
lucid olive
16 versatility is bis amount
void jacinth
18+ for me
lucid olive
thats how much a gem gives
void jacinth
thats how much a gem gives
pseudo merlin
just do catacomb tasks its not too bad, hell I've got 100% and not used it in li...
had 200 deviants with 3 superiors, was a 1 hour task and got 0
royal zenith
do you think the martial artist clones work with a bow @pseudo merlin?
royal zenith
jovial sundial
It just says socketed attack so maybe
drifting nova
had 200 deviants with 3 superiors, was a 1 hour task and got 0
well deviants are the worst in there to do, velds arent bad
pseudo merlin
well deviants are the worst in there to do, velds arent bad
yeah doesnt take away from the fact that I got none
Yesterday I killed 1500 hill giants and I got 2 shards
drifting nova
yeah but specs are bad in catacombs so
pseudo merlin
1:300 rate btw
royal zenith
get him chancel
dull dust
I did like 100