balance

[lofty depot]

168

[sudden pawn]

need HoF to close tho so the boss gets jailer'd and i dont have to wipe in p1 for 10 pulls a week

luckily belorens a joke as well now

we had a 20% burn on the first egg

so i just threw my convoke into the boss to phse it faster to get out of there

[lofty depot]

Sheeeesh

[sudden pawn]

my alt is close to 290 as well almost done with the season

fuck ass 2nd myth dagger wont drop for my hunter tho

[royal zenith]

dagger...hunter...

what

[lofty depot]

Fuck... Ass..

[shadow willow]

survival

[lucid olive]

yeah we had boss at like 24% 20 seconds into lust

lmao

[royal zenith]

you mean polearm??

DAGGER?!

[lucid olive]

bruh my chat wasnt scrolled down

[lofty depot]

Wait u raid Sunday no gamz?

Me and gamz raiding same day, dual screen

[shadow willow]

something something attack speed matters for survival hunters

[royal zenith]

yeah also at the same time

login

[lofty depot]

HOLY

[lucid olive]

dont know yet

we have MDI players in guild

depends how well they do

[lofty depot]

Sounds like no pash or

[lucid olive]

well pash doesn't matter when tank and healer is gone to play tournament innit

[royal zenith]

that sounds more like

luckyone is doing mdi

[lucid olive]

we added a raid yesterday to make up for it

[royal zenith]

and holding all his raiders hostage

[lucid olive]

no

reholy and nalgust are

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

Added a raid 👀

[lucid olive]

if team wants to log in and raid then it doesnt matter

and its not rly overtime, still 3 raids a week

[lofty depot]

I'm just memeing cuz it's fine to wee woo

[lucid olive]

our ret pala also left for vacation today so we added yesterday for him too

[sudden pawn]

surv uses double dagger as best (i think)

[royal zenith]

epic

[jovial sundial]

Yea PL uses daggers and sent uses 2h

[sudden pawn]

ya except sent is either bugged or bad so

gg 2x stab stab

pack leader is cooler anyway

when i get the hog

[jovial sundial]

Im glad another class uses daggers for melee

[sudden pawn]

i know that means its time to crank

u could say im

nevermind

[royal zenith]

this

agreed

[lucid olive]

make weapons change primary stat based on spec pls

let warglaives show you the way

[normal pilot]

smh that's for hero classes only

wait your turn to be the hero

[lofty depot]

Couldn't be the hero in the druid patch, what makes u think we're gonna be the hero in the void/light patch

[jovial sundial]

I think they should open up glaives to monk and rogue at least

[round field]

Its fine in the next expac all the druids will come together to turn the planets core into a comfy safehouse and they will turn sargeras sword into a big tree and theres gonna be this huge questline where you eliminate the nightmare forever and you get a 2h strenght sword as a legendary

[jovial sundial]

The next leggo should be a polearm

[royal zenith]

no

an int staff

or int dagger

[drifting nova]

a shield

no takebacksies

[royal zenith]

Im okay with a shield

[maiden pasture]

[jovial sundial]

I go with polearm since the last leggo weapon feral was able to vanilla and monk hasn’t had one they could use in content yet

And sv exists I guess

[maiden pasture]

Still can't get over an entire emerald dream tier and it's a 2h strength legendary

Legit insanity

[drifting nova]

could always fix the trinkets being giga op op

with a legendary trinket

[jovial sundial]

We had that one already

[drifting nova]

when

[jovial sundial]

Antorus

[maiden pasture]

Unctorus

[round field]

why do they only give 2h str weapons fun stuff

what was the last one casters had

[drifting nova]

oh shame, didnt play ant

or much past EN

[round field]

like antumbra?

[maiden pasture]

Antumbra ig

But like

[jovial sundial]

Casters had tarecgosa

[drifting nova]

still need to get that

[round field]

did u have a nice rest in ur coma

[maiden pasture]

Nymue staff was more interaction than antumbra

[jovial sundial]

I wasn’t considering cantrip weapons, just leggos

[normal pilot]

the item dev liked to play str classes

[round field]

what did nymue staff do again

[normal pilot]

so he made cool str weapons

[jovial sundial]

Damage and big mastery

[normal pilot]

but he quit so maybe the next dev will like to play other classes

[round field]

gettiku ashkandur the one from kt

[maiden pasture]

Best in slots another cantrip but everyone had that

[lofty depot]

Wasn't even my bis

[hushed dock]

eyo quick question when do i play in raid with convoke and when with incarnation?

[jovial sundial]

Oh there was voidglass last tier i guess

[lofty depot]

Getting to that point where adds die too fast and don't need to play incarn every fight

But u have to determine that value on ur own

[hushed dock]

so when my raid group for example kill quick the adds on chimearus i play incarn, for adds who live longer like saladbar i play convoke?

couldnt find anything on wowhead when to play what

[lofty depot]

Well use some logic

Convoke is better st

If adds are dying too fast and u can gain more from convoke then u play that

[hushed dock]

ah sorry i understood it wrong, and im new on balance so still alot to learn

[abstract talon]

Is balance just super undertuned? :( Why are my guildies simming for 100k 120k and I'm at less than even 80k?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/tXJPtqHanAsDYvMQQo9nfz

(I'm parsing super low too but I know that's because I'm a bad player xD)

[lofty depot]

Maybe u have shit gear

[digital berry]

your weapon being 276 is... suboptimal

considering most peoples weapons are 20 ilvls higher

like how do you have so many myth pieces but a heroic weapon

[lofty depot]

Maybe ur simming a non-st build meant for padding

[digital berry]

yeah the talent build is also odd for sure

[abstract talon]

Uhhuh, I took a build off of WC logs xD

idr even which fight it was for

[sudden pawn]

i only lose in sim to filthy dks

very powerful

[royal zenith]

sussy

[round field]

what is ur gear..

[royal zenith]

yeah that gear is a bit cooked

for some reason you have been stacking haste?

[normal pilot]

maybe offspec

otherwise you'd at least make a crafted weapon

[abstract talon]

I'm being a cheapskate for wep but.. kind of assumed that haste was a good stat.. damn

Rerolled from bear to moonkin for the guild

[maiden pasture]

Haste isn't a great stat for moonkin, definitely not something you want to be getting as much as possible

It's less bad if you play EC so for keys

[normal pilot]

ya it's not ideal but not as big an issue as the weapon

• can just re-enchant, prolly replace heart of wind

[lucid olive]

crazy comms

[fathom nebula]

Guys i have good news.. I have 100% chance of getting Gaze next week!

[royal zenith]

unless blizzard messes up bonus rolls...

[zinc lava]

EC is heavy Mastery>crit this season? Everytime i Sim it tells me to get more crit and never haste. Just curious as we usually always go Mastery/Haste

[wintry umbra]

I'm happy atleast atm we take some haste or so it seems with sims cause tww mastery crit was painful when casting raw Starfire to up eclipse

[zinc lava]

I dont mind it gameplay wise, just wanting to see if anybody else had the same results when simming. I play mostly M+ and doesnt seem to matter the target count or duration, just more crit.

[lofty depot]

U shouldn't treat every season as the same

[zinc lava]

I don't. Was just curious to others results while simming if they primarily play m+ as well. Thanks

[devout solar]

haven't really played since last xpac, is the bug with control of the dream fixed. I don't have to swap between talents every pull anymore?

[lofty depot]

Is fixed, unless u see something wrong. Feel free to report it

[devout solar]

ye cool, thanks

was just wondering

[placid olive]

@lucid olive you streaming the raid testing by chance?

[lucid olive]

no im streaming lura

[placid olive]

Gotcha, I’ll wait either lol

Watch^

[lucid olive]

idk boring content

go watch someone do raid testing

at least thats new

[placid olive]

How close are yall?

[fathom nebula]

Mythic Belo talent build is confusing me, some go AoE, some go 1min convoke, some go normal ass Single target build

[lucid olive]

p4

[fathom nebula]

I like my normal ass single target build

[placid olive]

Let’s gooooo!! We just started to get into p2 consistently

[lucid olive]

p1 wipe factory boss

[placid olive]

Legit lol

5 pulls in a row p2 with prog, 25 wipes in p1 follows

Shits wild

[lofty depot]

Mother fuck I said that

And he goes "but this good content surely"

[lofty depot]

The people playing "aoe" build.... Do mean they're playing incarn

Cuz outside of getting pi, u just play convoke

[exotic perch]

My guild is enjoying p1 wipe factory too

I played one night it doesnt look fun

[lofty depot]

Is pretty fun optimizing ur damage

They should make everyone have a crystal

[fair mist]

Is it worth to upgrade my hero track trinkets of if I don’t have myth yet? Like it’s not going to get myth in vault next week and the game is like “oops sorry you upgraded 3 times already no more” right?

[foggy kelp]

they're infinite and upgrading a hero item lets you upgrade the myth to 285 for free

[fair pasture]

Omg last live just now u betrayed me gamz

Just as I was about to watch

[fair pasture]

Wait really

Are we talking about voidcores

[foggy kelp]

yes

[digital berry]

Yeah it’s a crest save

Not sure how intended it was

And I’m pissed I wasted crests on trinkets

[foggy kelp]

its not really that important if you're not on an alt

[wide briar]

If you need to do prio damage in an m+ pack, do you cast star surge instead of Starfall?

[foggy kelp]

5 m+ (to get 5 voidshards) gives you 80? crests anyway

[wide briar]

E.g. 3-4 echo Knight pull in AA

[lucid olive]

not unless you play starweaver

the most prio dam you do is having the big mob targeted so your Starfire will launch passive Starsurges on it

if you're failing key because you don't have enough prio dam then you might need to change comps instead

[wide briar]

Mostly I don't think it matters, I was just asking about some specific dangerous pulls like 4 echo knights where you lust it and need to kill one before the next round of arcane smashes

[lucid olive]

id just spend the free procs from Starweaver on it

[delicate perch]

[wide briar]

Ok, ty gamz

[delicate perch]

Well the alternative is having a shitter geared main weeks ago, not really “saving” much

[dull dust]

2 even

[lucid olive]

what, you didn't hold your crests the first 4 weeks and leech items from raid so you could be BIS week 3???

[dense steeple]

[dull dust]

someones projecting

[dense steeple]

i cant imagine not being almost fully geared

just play the game

[delicate perch]

Of course I did that’s how I knew about the shitty geared main

[dense steeple]

my alt is 282 and its been neglected as fuck

[delicate perch]

Saved so much on repair costs too, I’d just go farm duplicates from 10s

[delicate perch]

I’ve heard enough, make the boss drop a light and dark crystal for each player, that you need to swap between before getting hit by different abilities while also protecting the dropped one

[lucid olive]

"well this belt is the biggest upgrade for Cavey so he gets awarded for Big Upgrade"

cavey: 240 ilvl
avg raid ilvl: 276

[lofty depot]

my alt druid is getting looted

11 rerolls got pit neck in 2 and both nxp rings after 2

[vital hound]

holy hecka

alts are genuinely stronger than having a main these days

[lofty depot]

i still have 6 left man

so i go bonus roll gaze and vaelgors surely

now i gotta farm keyts on my alt for crests to get the upgrades for main

gogoogog

[hushed dock]

heyo me again doing some questions^^
do i wanna press in raid always starfall for set or how does it work and raid rotation with trees still confuses me a bit how i can execute it good cause rn im at the low end of the dmg

[lofty depot]

should read ur talents and waht they do

touch of cosmos and weaver proc solstice

[lucid olive]

read compendium linked in pins and channel description

or read wowhead

[lofty depot]

no gaze rip

[hidden heron]

hello guys, Can I copy the mythic raid talent tree from wowhead? Are they updated?

[lucid olive]

updated them a few weeks ago

they should still be fine

[hidden heron]

tysm ❤️

[lofty depot]

WERE SO BNACK

[drifting nova]

seasons over ya a month late

[lofty depot]

SHIT NEVER DROPS

this kinda bad now i have to go farm crests on main

[drifting nova]

you live to play the game tho

[lofty depot]

real

ill do the work

[lucid olive]

king of the losers

nice

[hidden heron]

Started playing with my guild mythic raids and i wonder what could I do to get better with the boss fights. Where can i get information about what to use in the fights, like when should prioritize starfall instead of starsurge, big coldowns, etc etc...

[lucid olive]

read the compendium guide on dreamgrove

linked in channel description and pinned messages

[hidden heron]

I know there are some guides about that for DK so i wonder if bdruid get it as well

[lucid olive]

we have whatever you find on dreamgrove.gg + the regular 3rd party tools like wclogs, wowanalyzer, lorrgs.io etc

dreamgrove.gg has its own CD planner as well with wclogs integration to fetch specific fight timers

can also export it as a typical personal note string for whatever raid tool addon you use

but i would give all these sections a read from the Compendium guide

and then go up and read through the priority list after

[hidden heron]

Thanks a lot for the help, really ❤️

[vital hound]

Owned

[dense steeple]

im changing specs during reak

this shit is miserable

[stone ledge]

the 1m convoke build on alleria is funny

[frank grotto]

how many targets to start doing aoe rotation

[dense steeple]

probably 2

im sure theres a guide in the pins that tells you

@lofty depot oy whats your settings at here in graphics at the bottom of the menu?

[vapid shore]

Question.. for m+ i play EC boomkin and haven’t used wrath a single time 😬 still so good damage and parse relatively high but when I SIM it says I should be opening with wrath still.. I need helppppp

[normal pilot]

you must self ban yourself for not following the opener

[fair pasture]

Wrath on single outside of lunar eclipse, and pre pull to gain AP, which like doesn't apply to m+ really the second part

[dense steeple]

it applies if youre brave enough

[fair pasture]

Does it

[dense steeple]

i see a tank moving toward a pack, i see my healer has mana, i'm preacasting wrath

[fair pasture]

There never seems to be a pre pull on a boss and the first pull you gotta start dotting the 500 mobs

[dense steeple]

i send wrath at many a unpulled pack

[fair pasture]

I've literally never seen that much downtime and I'm one of the highest key doers I did a 14 once so you better listen up maybe in your mythic +2 baby keys that works but in grownup +7s and up you have to dot immediately especially the same mobs sometime's multiple times I added extra Sunfire buttons incase my finger gets tired

[dense steeple]

sorry sir

[vapid shore]

Ahhh okay thank you all for the info 🙏🏻🙏🏻. So it sounds like mostly just on boss fights during down time of eclipse, that makes sense. And yeah most of the time in m+ it’s trying to get my moon fire on as many enemies as possible and even that is difficult sometimes

I miss when the trees did all the moon fire dots for yuh 😞

[lucid olive]

@teal sphinx

[teal sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/sml-joseph-fake-oh-yeah-dude-thats-definitely-fake-thats-fake-gif-13435070119787526171

[inner pilot]

when you do mythic chimmy do you find you have enough time to starfire the little adds or do you just stay on boss and let starfall do the work?

i havnt done the boss as a boomkin so im trying to be efficient so i dont waste damage

[lofty depot]

instant starfire sure

ur not spam casting it tho

and u should be stacked closer to the big add soe the small adds all stack

then once theyre dead u can fly away while dpsing the big add and boss

[inner pilot]

okay thank you

i finally got the final stare trinket, i just do that on cd or do i wait

[lofty depot]

u use it with ur cds

[red horizon]

in aoe pull should i be mashing starfall?

with more stacks

[lofty depot]

more stacks 👀

yes starfall is ur aoe spender

yes it stacks

[lucid olive]

When I get sent down I Wild Charge to cancel the knockback and spam Sunfire on all the adds, then FoE and treants into incarn and swap back to boss

[inner pilot]

oh thats a nice tip

[lucid olive]

Then just main spend on Starfall while they're up and send free Surge procs into boss

[lucid olive]

Each Starfall you cast is its own independent Starfall, the effects overlap

[red horizon]

do i press wrath in single target for elunes chosen?

[lucid olive]

Outside of Eclipse on Single Target

You could go read the Compendium guide linked in pinned messages and channel description

[red horizon]

thank you i see it

[fair pasture]

What

[fair pasture]

Which wild charge

[lucid olive]

Standard moonkin one

[lucid olive]

Was a funny bit and Pepsi enjoys funny bits

[fair pasture]

Ok so it's the best timeline nice

My hackles went all up we take it

[fair pasture]

Do you do this before you get hit by it or like a second after

[lucid olive]

When the soak ends and it starts knocking you in the air

[fair pasture]

Nice kk that rules

[lucid olive]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UTaAbYKaCy7U8xpWfxbJOq9Ds3pUmIGwj1KAAgyk91I/edit?usp=drivesdk imagine you would probably enjoy this

[fair pasture]

I was afraid I was about to be on there but like the wrong way

[lucid olive]

Little collection of random copypastas from Balance chat over the years

[normal pilot]

that hasn't been updated in so long

further proof balance is dying

[lucid olive]

Yeah there hasn't been funny bits

[lucid olive]

Or maybe it's because we started treating people better!

[normal pilot]

cope

[fair pasture]

Gamz might be right

[lucid olive]

It'll come back once the spec is meta in m+ again

There's always gonna be some funny anger when you try to log review someone's +19 and they realize you never do higher key than 12

Also @teal sphinx rerolled away from us or quit the game or something

Lil rat

[normal pilot]

ya there were a few good ones i think bepis just lazy

[teal sphinx]

just rerolled

[lucid olive]

Not pulling his weight

[teal sphinx]

@cursive mirage wont let me quit

[lofty depot]

were wild charging the knock when u could lock gate it?

[cursive mirage]

I bullied him off of balance cause I was just too much better than him

but now I've been forced into healing this tier

so

[fair pasture]

I saw some of ur video u got knocked up by flying chim coming back down then you started giggling and burped

Why don't I see that on warcraft logs

[lofty depot]

hm

[teal sphinx]

??????

you begged me to play LITERALLY anything else

[lucid olive]

Real, wclogs should show how many globals you miss by touching your hair or scratching your nose when you play

Just let Archon get access to your webcamera and install an AI to track it

@jolly delta thoughts

[lofty depot]

track blood pressure

thats big

[lucid olive]

Yeah that's a good idea

[clever vigil]

what r yall cooking

that being said i miss the blason heartrate monitor streams

[lucid olive]

When your heart rate is fast it means you're stressed out so you will naturally perform worse than players who are calm, so the leaderboard should be amended to reflect that

If you have a missing ring finger on your left hand you should also get higher parses

Good cook

[clever vigil]

seems oddly specific

[lucid olive]

I have all 10 fingers, it was an example

Imagine they did that tho

[fair pasture]

That would rule

Parse friends getting healthy as fuck

Or would getting unhealthy be better idk

I adjust my glasses and my keyboard a lot

But we got the gcd for that

How many psi's your bladder is? How well you're poopsocking? Etc

[grim dagger]

Hello i started with balance today and switched to dps for my understandings when do u guys use wraith because i see in nearly every log or on archon that the wraith dmg is = to 0 nearly or do i miss something even on bosses or ST i dont see alot wraith dmg why?

[lofty depot]

wrath on st outside of eclipse

or dont

why cuz ec presses starfire

read lunar calling

[grim dagger]

so just keep eclipse up and just use starsurge and starfire? even its an AOE attack?

ah okay thx 😄

[lofty depot]

its not an aoe attack

its ur main builder

its a st attack too

[grim dagger]

was just wondering why the wrath dmg is so low in every log i was looking into 😄

i guess a have to stop with spamming wrath in ST 😄 because i mainly used wrath in ST all the time

[lofty depot]

should read the guide and or ur talents

[round field]

to be fair

just reading the starfire talent you probably wouldnt connect

oh i dont wrath anymore i just starfire in st

[lofty depot]

well thats cuz u cant read very well

mmhm mmhm

[round field]

wrong

it reads like

"oh cool my starfire does more prio dmg"

[lucid olive]

Yeah I can see the confusion too

But don't tell Blizzard then they'll just make it say like 200% instead just to really drive the point home

[warm meadow]

can starfall still pull extra stuff

[sudden flame]

no

it only hits stuff you are already in combat with

[warm meadow]

promise?

[sudden flame]

promise

[warm meadow]

ok I'll trust you thanks

[sudden flame]

I remember there was a bug in siege of boralus one time but was a one off thing where a pack would pull

[warm meadow]

from what I read its cuz some mobs there were alr technically in combat

[delicate perch]

I would not trust a feral druid

sorry typo

[warm meadow]

so I wonder if like trolls in maisara hitting dummies would have similar issue

[sudden flame]

[warm meadow]

or some such

[warm meadow]

[delicate perch]

hes not wrong though, it is generally the "in combat rp" mobs that can cause starfall issues

[lucid olive]

You could go in on follower mode and test it

[warm meadow]

fair nuff

I'll get on it once my lazyness levels subside

[lucid olive]

If you find any bugs I'm sure people will think it's useful knowledge

I think they're usually very good at fixing RP combat flags for new dungeons though

Usually when Starfall has pulled something it's been a returning dungeon

[warm meadow]

I was just curious rly, saw someone mention it in another cord and since I wanna get my balance geared just wanted to see if its smth I gotta keep in mind

[lucid olive]

Boralus first boss, the dragon boss in Darkheart Thicker and the mobs in front of Hyrja in Halls of Valor

[lucid olive]

Players have been saying Starfall pulls for years

[warm meadow]

aye, some bugs just stay in ppls mind forever

[lucid olive]

It's because when someone body pulls a pack and Starfall is the first thing that hits the mob they think that's what caused it

But it very rarely is

Like 3 times in 8 seasons I think?

[warm meadow]

why is there a guy stuck in vc for 15 hours

lol

[lucid olive]

Oh the timer got reset again?

[royal zenith]

ohh they broke their streak

ye

just feral things

[lucid olive]

It used to say 6000 hours or something

Over 5k at least

[warm meadow]

lmao

[lucid olive]

Then discord shat the bed last week and it got reset

I think it's light hearted fun so who cares

[warm meadow]

[royal zenith]

I care

deeply

[lucid olive]

All you're passionate about is being the anti-fun police

[royal zenith]

wrong, I make things extra fun

and exciting

keep you on your toes

[warm meadow]

do I go Hootini or stay Magnanimoon

very important question

[reef kestrel]

I've searched the whole internet to try and get a solution for starfall visual fix

for me i play on a high end rig, around 300-350 fps and when i starfall it drops for a 100 fps. This wasnt the case with previous expansions and somewhere they added these ''raindrops'' falling when using starfall. Anybody expierncing the same issue?

[lofty depot]

Starfall has had that animation for a while. It's likely more than just that and u would download a qol addon which basically lowers ur graphic settings and or other ones.

[round field]

this game is coded by infants and held together by hopes and dreams

[sudden flame]

[warm meadow]

why do we spend instant cast on starfire

[lofty depot]

More asp, more damage per ececute

U only do that in ca/incarn

[warm meadow]

oh right im dumb

cuz it gives both eclipses

[twin lotus]

you're not dumb you just missed it

[kindred token]

Where's the faq page in dreamgrove?

[warm meadow]

are you denying the impeccable smoothness of my brain

[lofty depot]

#1473018731687841853

[indigo ether]

did anyone update addons with Gamz's UI

and a bunch of things just look different/off?

Especially name plates

[urban hollow]

Hi, apologies if this has been asked before but i am starting Crown prog and I'm trying to figure out the best talent build - i assume the top logs are padding. Or is the dmg amp enough to offset any aoe padding from p1?

[lofty depot]

Well the p1 droplets don't count on log

P2 the adds just die to cleave and don't actually matter

That being said, this late into the season u'll start seeing more people run convoke talents

[urban hollow]

Yea the top log on tuesday was running 1 min convoke, and most others were running incarn

Thanks! I didn't know about droplets not counting.

[lofty depot]

It's kinda troll cuz ur sending 2nd convoke into moreium when it's at like 40% hp

[urban hollow]

Yea that does feel like another type of padding lol. But we just started prog so helping with p1 is actually helping rn

[warped rose]

Hi guys, kinda new to balance here
In elunes chose do i always consume starsurge in touch of the cosmos?

[jolly delta]

Elune's chinese

I saw that

[warped rose]

Ye typo lol

Speech to text keyboard

[lofty depot]

On st, u do that if ur playing weaver

[warped rose]

It seems like all my procs are for both, and not starfall into surge and the opposite. Probably a talent i didnt read

[lofty depot]

U only have 2 procs that do anything like that

And weaver is both surge/Starfall into Starfall/surge

The surge into Starfall just lower chance

[lucid olive]

I haven't updated anything for well over a month, but also no way to know what the issue is just from that

I would just go get the Jundies plater profile off of Wago instead for nameplates

And making sure no other add-on is doing nameplates and might conflict, like ElvUI

[indigo ether]

NorskenUi updated and messed things up as well

[lucid olive]

Yeah he sent a big update a few days ago

I haven't looked at it since I'm progging Lura, don't wanna change anything UI wise until boss is dead

Was probably gonna change to Skiron CDM instead of Ayije eventually but not sure, Skiron needs some better settings for pandemic visual first

[indigo ether]

Can I message you for your Norsken profile string?

[lucid olive]

I haven't used it for like 3 weeks so it'd probably be outdated

I'll take a look at the add-on later though and set up a profile and update on Wago

[warm meadow]

wait ur supposed to update profiles

[indigo ether]

sweet thanks

[frank vine]

hey guys, i have a question about fury of elune usage and lining it up with eclipses; here's a scenario:
you're in m+, key level 18-20, pulled 3-4 packs, no bloodlust and no vaelgor's final stare up for you to line it up with your CA/incarn window so you send your fury of elune --> (lunar) eclipse and you do your normal rotation bla bla, you exit your eclipse at about average amount of astral power and now on your fury of elune you have 13-16 seconds cooldown remaining, you manage to acquire astral power up to e.g. 80-95 and there's still about 5-7 seconds remaining on your fury of elune, do you:
a) press starfall and another starfire to regenerate your astral power that you just spent to utilize lunation and reduce the cd of your fury of elune and then after all this you send fury of elune to line it up with start of the eclipse
b) press eclipse, use your ascendant stars and ascendant eclipses and then send fury of elune
c) something completely different?

[ruby badger]

From watching Canexx vods I think the play is just to send the eclipse

The benefits from it lining up are outweighed by just spending in eclipse

[lofty depot]

Depends how long it lasts

[frank vine]

how long what lasts?

[ruby badger]

The pack

[lofty depot]

The pack

[ruby badger]

I suppose if you know pack will last 20 seconds, you can spend 5 seconds making sure your eclipse is as good as possible (i.e lining up the FoE and stuff)

[lofty depot]

Essentially ye

[lucid olive]

The pack

Sorry I wanted to be included

[frank vine]

xD

[lofty depot]

Understand the concept. You want to maximize your time in eclipse

That's maximizing the damage in eclipse, not just the uptime of it

U'll never have 100% uptime so u should be maximizing the damage u do inside of it

[lofty depot]

Be faster next time

[lucid olive]

You should read the "how to play Eclipse" part in the Compendium

[frank vine]

indeed, but i was thinking about how you want to line up your FoE for atmospheric exposure with your 20% damage buff on spenders

[ruby badger]

The part that makes it annoying is the varying health pools of packs and deciding how worth it is to have a worse eclipse but kill them quicker

[lofty depot]

Well yes

But your also doing that with eclipse in mind

So ur lowering the CD and then pressing eclipse

U don't have to press eclipse right away

Ur not at 2 stacks, ur not over capping

U shouldn't be feeling rushed to press ur cds

Again maximize ur time in ur CDs while maximizing ur uptime of said cds

[craggy sonnet]

btw .. i also thought thats the case but its actually not. i think they buffed wrath or something and it is doing more dmg than starfire rn

[lofty depot]

Well they buffed it a while ago

Sim showing different or?

[frank vine]

okay, got it, also I believe what matters is that if the pack is about to die soon and the time it requires you to get to the next pack and dot them all with moonfire will also decrease the cd of FoE significantly so you may even have it anew for the next pack even if you previously used it at the end of the previous pack, amirite?

[lofty depot]

Well ye so depending if I'd have eclipse back up or u have icnarn going into

So then u send eclipse maybe and then have incarn for the other, but it depends what's going on

[frank vine]

yes, and if trinket is up, how big the pack is etc. etc.

so what gamz was referring to in the compendium is this part?

[craggy sonnet]

no, just meant its not really worth doing unless you'll hit more than one target

[warm meadow]

so wowhead LIES?

smh gamz u lied to me

[craggy sonnet]

its whatever

[frank vine]

also, now im looking at the "how to play on 2 targets" section and it says we surge on 2 targets or was this section maybe not updated since the buffs?

[lofty depot]

Yss

[craggy sonnet]

not sure its ever worth playing around lunation stuff if you were to lose anything else because of it

say effective ecl time

or overcap some other cd

[lofty depot]

Where

[frank vine]

or am i perhaps misinterpreting it?

[craggy sonnet]

and if you play sundered firm and/or light of elune, chances are you actually already benefit from atmos exposure anyways

[craggy sonnet]

think it depends on your talents

[frank vine]

i play moon and astral insight

[ruby badger]

Just check what balance druids do on the windrunner spire boss

[craggy sonnet]

ah, surely gonna be correct then 🙂

[lofty depot]

Likely wasn't updated

[craggy sonnet]

lots of moons in aoe

so probably also not too bad coverage

even if you dont wait for foe

[frank vine]

oh right, actually totally forgot moon counts towards atmospheric exposure, thanks for reminding me brother

[craggy sonnet]

and regarding the 2t thing

what talents are you running?

might be able to sim it rq

[frank vine]

just imagine the very common M+ EC build, umbral embrace, no gcd shrooms, weaver

[craggy sonnet]

(which does not mean its always the most practical solution even if it were saying to alternate surges)

[frank vine]

orbit breaker + astral insight

[craggy sonnet]

though i think that without meteorites its probably gonna tell you to surge .. will see

[frank vine]

do we really run meteorites now in m+?

[craggy sonnet]

didnt say that

[frank vine]

CYGA8cL7tpvige+kkmGM9zUPWDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjxMDwsYmZmZhhhZZmlZWMzM2YZmlxMjxCGGgx22MDGz2IwEAAAgFmZmZwmxMGDAAzMwA
here's the string

[craggy sonnet]

wants you to starfall .. there might be something else where you only surge if stellar amp is missing but eh

[frank vine]

but i still send surge procs normally and tab targets to keep up the stellar amp, right? that part, i believe, should remain unchanged

[craggy sonnet]

sure

actually meteorites instead of sunseeker not too far fetched

slightly better st (.7%), significantly better 2t (3.4%), breakpoint around 5-6t, only 1.3% worse at 10t

[ruby badger]

👀

[craggy sonnet]

oh and that is ofc sustained / fixed target sims .. sunseeker kinda volatile depending on when it procs and how many targets it actually hits

(this is only if you play weaver)

[ruby badger]

For Pit and Windrunner might be the move

considering they both have fixed 2T bosses

[craggy sonnet]

yeah, for any 2t boss dungeons i would heavily consider it

[ruby badger]

Windrunner especially since those 10T+ pulls are just filled with little shitter mobs

[craggy sonnet]

rattle build you'd wanna try to upkeep stellar amp before starfalling on 2t btw

but its also significantly worse at 2t compared to weaver

[plucky valley]

I know what u mean

[lofty depot]

🫃

[plucky valley]

Oh man I forgot to keep that up

Now I’ve been countered

I’m ruined, you’ve ruined me

[lofty depot]

[fair pasture]

What does this gesture mean

[lofty depot]

Means so much

[warped rose]

so in wowhead m+ talents there seems to be in conflicts of almost all the logs i see people play with, for example
Rattle the stars over starweaver
Sundered firmament over orbit breaker
and in hero talent the light of elune over astral insight
is it out dated or just low keys vs high keys priority talents?

[lofty depot]

Most the time I use it as a like excited confirmation

Can be used as like a surprised situational response

[lofty depot]

There's plenty of people playing rattle or weaver and sundered or OB

I prefer not playing rattle for the 800th season in a row but shrug

[warped rose]

i guess simming and playing it to feel it will be the best
assuming its a low diff

[lofty depot]

The difficulty is different in both

Weaver have a bunch of procs and can use them wrong right

Rattle less procs so u have to be more efficient with ur asp

[warped rose]

that sounds fair
you know why most people play with astral insight over the light of elune?

[lofty depot]

Don't think it matters tbf

[modern cairn]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Qh9mYZvTVtrnkXCq?fight=18&type=casts&view=timeline&source=9

Hey, could someone do a quick log review on HC L'ura please? FYI, our RL had us do the cheese strat where you keep one out of the three Safeguard Matrices up. Only just became aware of not having to cast Starfire when Ascendant Fires procs from Apex (instead of casting it when CA active; poor reading comprehension) hence the wrong Starfire casts after I enter Solar Eclipse.

Feel like I'm definitely not maximising my number of Starsurge casts during Eclipse/CA also

[lucid olive]

should enter Eclipse before pressing Treants -> Incarn

Just to get the spell on CD

then build some AP so your first cast in CDs isn't a builder

casted Sunfire during CDs

[lucid olive]

should read this part in the Dreamgrove Compendium, as well as the "easy mode" part above it

generally you don't want to spend globals casting "bad spells" during Eclipse windows (including CA/Incarn)

[modern cairn]

Gotcha, thanks a lot

[lucid olive]

are you holding the 1st kick indefinitely

do crystals spawn in p1 then

[modern cairn]

as in for the cheese thing or me not solar beaming? The former is so you spawn less of the dawn crystals, so you don't kick one of the safeguards, the latter is me being a little shit

[lucid olive]

oh the safeguard just times out?

[modern cairn]

yeah

but there's a damage reduction on the boss

which also times out

[lucid olive]

yeah i mean

you sent CDs into a boss taking reduced dam

if you wanna be optimal then you natty press Vaelgor before pressing CA/Incarn

[modern cairn]

gotcha

[lucid olive]

it doesn't make the biggest difference though

very minor damage optimization, but a good habit to get into since i don't imagine Solar Bolt will see any changes

trees before eclipse

also this part is abysmal uptime

was this gap in moonkin form uptime a heart of the wild cast?

logs don't track hotw so i can't tell

[modern cairn]

I think so yeah, we were all dipping

[lucid olive]

yeah guess i could've checked this way

generally you want to use the bear form heart of the wild instead cause the healing isn't very good

[modern cairn]

gotcha

[lofty depot]

We off healing in heroic 👀

[serene arrow]

for mythic plus i keep seeing diff things, do we want a certain crit vaulue then haste mastery or like ?

[lucid olive]

you can also cast heart of the wild during your stampeding roar casts

[lucid olive]

no

every person whos gear you look at are simming their character

following their stats is not productive for improvement

[modern cairn]

thanks again for the review btw, much appreciated

[lunar haven]

@dull dust

[dull dust]

[lucid olive]

not missing any %

sim numbers are fake

competitive simming is a symptom of the downfall of humanity

[lunar haven]

Thats why you dont have great copy pastas like ```u know why enh never gets nerfed? cos their discord is fucking DEAD and doesnt have 5 turboautists simming every single variable every single hour of the day, THEY FLY UNDER THE RADAR meanwhile our buff gets annoucned and 5 minutes later we got a full scientific paper detailing how its a 11.959185% buff with 0% margin of error u did this to yourselves.

the nerf is because of hubris.... you people were not satisfied with being a strong spec. You had to rub it in everyone's faces. You're autistic, period. HUMAN NATURE dictates that you will be jealous of your neighbour if he has more than you, so why do you RUB all those insane sims in other classes' faces? here and all over wowhead? What did you expect to happen? that shit ass warlocks would look on those numbers and be like "oh good for them"? so fucking dum```

[round field]

wheres the copypasta google doc

[digital berry]

Spitting facts tho

[cloud citrus]

that might be the greatest coppypasta i have ever seen ever.

who wrote this and where did they write this i need more!

[royal zenith]

we have a whole document

I dunno, kinda weak having one copy pasta

typical mages putting themselves above everyone

[cloud citrus]

i right that makes 100% sense the mage discord has so many people doing stuff for sims

[royal zenith]

name all the people that work on sims for druid

[lunar haven]

Mage Discord things

[fickle pier]

enh never gets nerfed because 10 total people play it

[lucid olive]

sir we have a 19 page document

that hasn't been updated for 6+ months

so surely it would be over 23 by now

[lucid olive]

theorycrafting is more open in mage discord

[lunar haven]

Its simple, the mage discord is less organized

The copypastas get revived anytime someone remembers them

[lucid olive]

well

our 19 page document is strictly from this channel

not the other ones

[lofty depot]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UTaAbYKaCy7U8xpWfxbJOq9Ds3pUmIGwj1KAAgyk91I/edit?tab=t.0

Frankly it's not even close

[lucid olive]

i see ill quit here now, its like a taylor swift community, u flame a world first and everyone flame you 😄

[cloud citrus]

are half those pages arctic saying unhinged stuff to people

[lucid olive]

no

some of them are people responding to arctic

@Gamz i really dont give a shit what you think, im telling you the truth, and then if you believe it or not, thats up to you ^^

or responding to me

[cloud citrus]

lol

[eager raft]

a lot of them are responses to Arctic tho

[cloud citrus]

bahahah

[lofty depot]

Like pages 10-19 prob

[lucid olive]

@Gamz nah but no trolls aside.. you are the only one here that got fingers out of these clowns and you can play boomkin on a decent lvl.. you cant tell me boomkin is bad even if you look at the 95% statistics and bullshit..

[royal zenith]

half of them are mage rerollers!!

[lucid olive]

i dont even remember this one

and its close to the bottom

[eager raft]

There is 2 people in this world , people who copy other people and than their is people like me who make our own builds and be succesfull with it. I was the first balance druid to play orbital strike convoke on tindral and be succesfull with a new build no1 else thought off. They say just play feral but i usually do a lot more than those feral druids who think thats better, instead of looking at whats supposed to be better you have to look at your own strength

[lucid olive]

@woven flint my goat

[royal zenith]

🥲

[cloud citrus]

dam it kinda crazy the difference from the top of the first page to the last of the last page

these are probably all in order of time right?

like from df -> now

[lofty depot]

Ye

Just add to the bottom as they happen

Pepsi also not here that often and doesn't add shit

Granted we haven't really had some good crash outs in a while

[normal pilot]

there have been some good recent ones

unlucky sheet maintenace is dead like druid is dead

[lofty depot]

Think I'm being too nice again

[dull dust]

True and real

[cloud citrus]

like the top ones are just constructive in their i wish you answered my question next time, toxic community and the bottom is like crazy language for the exact same meaning

The pompos one is def about arctic though

[lucid olive]

they used to be more frequent before papercups and glyph were banned

[lofty depot]

Lol

Well paper was actively calling people stupid

[lucid olive]

yeah that tends to spark some copypasta worthy material

[eager raft]

People were actively stupid in his defense

[lofty depot]

Kk, so I call people stupid and get more copy pastas

[cloud citrus]

i remember paper i asked a question and he linked me a google form that auto entered the input

[lofty depot]

🤝

[lucid olive]

i can't hate on paper after he was slobbering drunk and crushed me in typeracer

[dull dust]

I almost donated 10subs to whispyr yesterday to get iridium pushed down stairs

wss very tempting offer

[lucid olive]

no wonder paper is on discord every day when he types like 135 wpm while drunk

imagine sober

that guy has the keyboard mentally fused to him or something

[lofty depot]

He's a teacher too

[lucid olive]

i think he used to be

[lunar haven]

Donate subs to whispyr cause whispyr is great :3

[dull dust]

he is wows best rogue

[exotic perch]

what is this lmao

[lofty depot]

?

It's the copy pasta sheet

The fuck u mean

[exotic perch]

alright keep your secrets

[woven flint]

quick link the doc

o nvm already linked

[lofty depot]

Scroll up silly

[woven flint]

yeah i just saw the mention and i knew what it was

🤣

[lofty depot]

Would you like to meet up in person and say it to my face?

[exotic perch]

id beat yo ass

[cloud citrus]

that would be a cute date

[exotic perch]

in 2 months when my hip is healed

[lofty depot]

Old man

[normal pilot]

does spy not know

[dull dust]

spy vs arctic

loser gets to be the boomkin that gets pushed down stairs

[cloud citrus]

sounds like Spy might be really old though

[dull dust]

arctic also born in 19--

[lofty depot]

Like every boomkin born in 199-

[cloud citrus]

o that seems fair then your both old

[eager raft]

I think this is probably my favourite one of all time

[lofty depot]

Is pretty good

[exotic perch]

if you are playing wow and arent from 19-- then cmon man

you are too young

[eager raft]

Think they said it to luds of all people

Lmfao

[exotic perch]

ngl only person i wouldnt want to fight is glyph

i dont wanna fuck witha 300 pound islander

[cloud citrus]

if your born in 2000 your 26 years old

let that sink in real good

[dull dust]

[eager raft]

yo stfu actually i don't want to see ur comments

[exotic perch]

too young

[lofty depot]

Hiring people right now I see graduated in 2021 like oh he a baby.... Blud is 23

Mental can't take it

[cloud citrus]

😄

[lucid olive]

Clearly not seen the arctic face reveal then

[lofty depot]

Im only 220

Lose like 60 pounds by not slamming cokes for a month

[exotic perch]

220 isnt bad

[exotic perch]

i do remember seeing a photo of potentially 2 homeless men

i think one was soma

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[dull dust]

that obese

unless hes all muscle

which he plays wow

[lucid olive]

thats nothing

[lofty depot]

Well I be lifting shit all day

[lucid olive]

i'm 300+ i think

been a while since i checked but who knows

[lofty depot]

But nonetheless I do be fat

[sudden pawn]

coke zero/all zero sodas >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[lucid olive]

real

[dull dust]

https://tenor.com/view/panda-huahua-gif-1476795351732195837

[lucid olive]

i'm archetype wow player

31yo single fat guy

[lofty depot]

Yea coke zero tastes worse and anyone that says it tastes the same have cooked taste buds

[dull dust]

[sudden pawn]

it tastes the same as regular coke

[lofty depot]

McDonald's coke is also worse than coke from a can

It doesnt

[exotic perch]

im 185 and once im back to more activity ill drop 5 lbs and feel great

you guys big

[sudden pawn]

zero sodas replicate regular sugar by combinding multiple fake sugars

so ya it should in theory taste the same

[lofty depot]

Key phrase

"in theory"

[sudden pawn]

so then if most people like them and u dont

isnt ur taste buds cooked

[lofty depot]

No

[sudden pawn]

and ours normal

what is the meaning of life

[lucid olive]

there's a lot of personal history related to it that shouldn't get into in a public space, but in short i don't really care much

[lofty depot]

Urs a have adapted to the shit quality of components in the drinks

[lucid olive]

my thought process is that as long as i am healthy enough to travel and experience new stuff

[lofty depot]

Also Mexican coke is bis

[lucid olive]

and can walk around a new city without my feet killing me

then that's all that matters

[lofty depot]

Won't hear otherwise

[sudden pawn]

i went from 260 -> 200 -> 210 rn

the 60 pound loss was devestating to my mental, 1500-1800 calories a day 100g protein and working out

felt like i was gonna die

but it was worth

[exotic perch]

yeah if it doesnt interfere with daily life its still manageable

[lofty depot]

Think the funny man with the chart saying I'm obese, thinks I sit in an office and don't run around all day

[lucid olive]

i went from 396 to 250 in a year

back in like 2018

do not recommend

[sudden pawn]

it was mind numbing

[lofty depot]

That good

[sudden pawn]

i had the same breakfast lunch dinner

[lofty depot]

Keep going

[sudden pawn]

for 6 months straight

with some tad variation on dinner

[exotic perch]

yeah thats the glamourous part of weight loss

even worse when you cut weight

[sudden pawn]

ya but i needed to do it cause im short and fat

not a good combo when ur built like a minecraft character mixed with shrek

my feet dont touch the ground in my gamer chair

[clear pulsar]

this isnt so bad if you enjoy what youre eating

[sudden pawn]

it was fine for the first like month then it was boring

[clear pulsar]

yeah, thats fair

[lofty depot]

Short king

[sudden pawn]

[gaunt lantern]

I went from 540 -> 250 over the course of two years. It was a grind. Legit ate the same breakfast + lunch every day over that entire period

also helps that I am very tall

[dull dust]

bit more then short at that point

[sudden pawn]

[normal pilot]

what if it's just stubby legs but long upper torso

[gaunt lantern]

isnt that just dwarfism

also: i am very tall and and all torso, so i feel that

[rare shoal]

[sudden pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-laptop-gif-20532336

[fair pasture]

My feet don't touch the ground either I have to put an empty box there

But I am just..small

[sudden pawn]

join the club

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

deux probably like 1.79m

if i had to pure guess

[royal zenith]

Im exactly 1.79m correct

[lucid olive]

theres no way

[royal zenith]

no jokes

[lucid olive]

nice

[royal zenith]

aka 5'11

[lucid olive]

google calls that 5'9

rounded up

[dull dust]

twins

[royal zenith]

I dunno how correct it is

I see different results yeh

[lucid olive]

i'm like 1.86m, which is apparently like 6'1?

[royal zenith]

I was also googling

also 179 is like short in the NL so yeah

Im basically the froyo of dutchies

[lucid olive]

yeah dutch people are tall

[royal zenith]

nearly all my friends were at least 1.86 or above

[lucid olive]

which is odd considering you grow up with a stronger gravitational pull than other countries

[fair pasture]

Gravity is so weak compared to like anything

[lucid olive]

netherlands is basically below sea level

[royal zenith]

did you know we have gravity leaking in the universe?

[lucid olive]

you mean the surprise atmosphere some scientists found in our solar system recently or something else

[dull dust]

nerd

[royal zenith]

space is fascinating chancel

[lucid olive]

apparently some dwarf ice planet in the kuiper belt has an atmosphere we didn't know about until recently

[fair pasture]

Hell yeah

Gravity leaking is such an ambiguous thing to say

[lucid olive]

even Pluto doesn't have an atmosphere and this thing is smaller

[fair pasture]

What does that even mean

That implies somewhere for it to go

[lucid olive]

leaking thru from other dimensions and universes

[fair pasture]

Other than the universe

[royal zenith]

theres a theory where gravity is leaking from another universe into ours

[lucid olive]

into our universe

[gaunt lantern]

huh. apparently the average height of males in the netherlands is 184cm

[fair pasture]

Okay a theory, you just said it's happening

[dull dust]

only fascinating because we are basicly cavemen as a civilization still

[royal zenith]

yezzir

[lucid olive]

yeah, it's closely related to string theory

[royal zenith]

I mean, can you actively prove gravity is not a theory?

[lucid olive]

the funny part with this is that there is no way know for sure if it's true or not

since we don't have any other civilization to compare us against

[royal zenith]

basically everything is a theory

[dull dust]

use ur imagination

[fair pasture]

Yeah we have like good evidence for stuff tho

[lucid olive]

we have no way to know if current human stage of knowledge is ahead or behind

[dull dust]

surely max ilvl isnt flying cars

[fair pasture]

Saying gravity is leaking is like such a huge clickbait article title stretch

There has been ambiguity in precise measurement of the gravitational constant

[royal zenith]

We still use Newton’s "law of universal gravitation" for practical applications, but it is no longer considered a complete, absolute law because it fails at high speeds, extreme gravity, and cosmic scales. Instead, science relies on Einstein’s "theory of general relativity," which explains gravity as a curvature of spacetime.

[fair pasture]

You're taking some huge leaps from there

[gaunt lantern]

I'm 193 cm, and live in the southern US. I rarely see someone taller than me. So the idea of a whole lot of people being as tall as me actually sounds kinda ncie

[royal zenith]

Im not taking shit

think you just want to zoom in and be annoying

[lucid olive]

that's the basis of string theory as well isn't it

when you do a bunch of calculations about space it eventually shits out the einteins relativity theory

[royal zenith]

yeah you can't consider anything a law anymore, cause it can be proven wrong or there's different factors

that change your way of thinking or perception

[fair pasture]

What are you even saying

[lucid olive]

Reconciling Gravity: Einstein's relativity works for the large-scale universe (gravity), but fails at the quantum scale. String theory aims to bridge this by defining gravity (via the graviton particle) within a quantum framework, treating gravity as a vibrational mode of strings.

[fair pasture]

Needing a quantum theory of gravity is definitely a thing

Jumping to "hey it's a fact that gravity is leaking" whatever that means, is ridiculous

[dull dust]

wha

[fair pasture]

There's like many theories of quantum gravity atm

[dull dust]

u think gravity leaking is why full moon hits like a noodle

[royal zenith]

they're going off on something random I said

dw about it chancel

[fair pasture]

Holy fuck you are literally so fucking annoying

[dull dust]

ive never had a worry in my life

[lucid olive]

whats ur issue

[dull dust]

im basicly functional lobotomy

[lucid olive]

its just a conversation about an interesting topic

it's not that deep

take a walk if you get bothered

[royal zenith]

we're having a light conversation, I said something random

it's not that deep

[fair pasture]

You said random nonsense as if it's true

[royal zenith]

No, I said random nonsense

[lucid olive]

what is truth

[royal zenith]

period

and then we discussed random after thoughts

[lucid olive]

must be politician

[loud kettle]

Can you prove that last Thursday happened?

[royal zenith]

I... cannot

[dull dust]

try harder

[royal zenith]

It does remind me of the levels of existential dread

[lucid olive]

got a match on tinder once who asked me "how is the existential anxiety treating you"

think we should have more openness as a species about stuff like that

[royal zenith]

[timid oyster]

Nah they're just trauma digging. They'll weaponize it later.

[royal zenith]

Also can't disagree with that

[dull dust]

what stuff

dying?

[loud kettle]

Existential anxiety

[dull dust]

idk what that even means

[lucid olive]

feelings innit

[dull dust]

anxiety is a word millennial made up to be lazy

[lunar haven]

You wouldnt

[lucid olive]

the sudden realization that we are all just specs of dust on a ball of dirt floating around a constantly exploding ball of hydrogen and helium

and the same source for all life around us is also simulatenously giving us cancer

[loud kettle]

Which in itself is just specks of dust compared to the many galaxies around us

[lucid olive]

exactly

but it's so important that wclogs doesn't include PI in their leaderboards or i get mad

now put that in the context

[royal zenith]

wcl gives meaning to life

pog

more meaning I should say

[dull dust]

bigger doesnt mean more important

[loud kettle]

That's what she said

[rare shoal]

If only the other specs of dust (pugs) would stop inting my keys

I would be a lot happier with my existence

[dull dust]

[lofty depot]

new spec or?

[cursive vigil]

Hey guys, was chilling in Boomie off spec HC L’ura tonight

Does Boomies solar beam interrupt not work on the interrupt part in P1 ?

It didn’t feel like it was doing anything

[royal zenith]

depends on what you mean, the interrupt works

but I'd assume you mean the silence?

[fair pasture]

They don't seem to be interrupted when rotating into the beam, which is consistent with what other people here said and my own experience

[lofty depot]

yea the silence dont be working like that

[lucid olive]

thats not just on lura either

if you Solar Beam on a mob that isn't casting it can still start casting regardless of the silence effect

unless i'm wrong

i don't minigame enough to know 100%

[normal pilot]

just depends if the mob is immune to silence

[lucid olive]

mmm yeah

[fair pasture]

I thought it created an 8 second no cast zone

[normal pilot]

once upon a time encounter devs used to not do dumb shit like that

it's a 7s interrupt and 8s silence zone

[lucid olive]

the silence effect is also the tiniest pixel as well

[normal pilot]

they make a lot of stuff immune to silence

[lucid olive]

you solar beam a mob that is casting and standing on the tank

then the tank takes 1 singular step back

now suddenly every mob is out of the zone

but they had to make the Lothraxion fight as toxic as possible

played with a moonkin on my DH who threw it on the biggest clump of clones and oneshot the group

[rare shoal]

[eternal drift]

is it bad that im M+ talents are doing more st damage than my st talents?

[lucid olive]

depends what your st talents are

[eternal drift]

keeper from warcraft logs ppl

[jolly delta]

this article slaps

[rough flax]

Like there is 3 items to upgrade

Why would you need a guide for that

[jolly delta]

idk I find it really funny

seo slop

@lucid olive did u get asked

[lucid olive]

no it just takes from the gear page

[jolly delta]

crazy

[delicate perch]

imo (I ran the math) it'd be weapons and both trinkets

[lucid olive]

for us it doesnt matter but i know some writers have disclaimers and info on theirs that isnt present in that post

[jolly delta]

"yeah uhh the best things to upgrade with the trink/weapon upgrades are uhhh the weapon and then the trinkets"

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

yeah i mean

the upgrades are simple af

infinitely farmable and quick to get

so its not like you can spread a lot of misinfo about them

[delicate perch]

watch me

[lucid olive]

the article is just free clicks kaching 💲

[jolly delta]

ye I get why it exists

just funny

[stone ledge]

If the article makes no sense it’s prolly not for you yaknow haha

[lucid olive]

need slop articles so they can pay for the moonkin editorial i'm writing..

[stone ledge]

Get the moonkin agenda going

[normal pilot]

gamz just writing his own demise

feeding the training

does your guide have a flawless sequence like this one?

[lucid olive]

damn, its almost correct

[jolly delta]

if it's incorrect it's just because someone is feeding it wrong data

someone out here spreading misinfo

[normal pilot]

i'm on it

[rare shoal]

did it fix it

[normal pilot]

yes it's clearly says 'corrected opener'

[rare shoal]

Im gonna spin a wheel to determine my alt next season and ask chat gpt to give me the rotation and opener

thoughts

[stone ledge]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-black-guy-shocking-face-black-guy-shocked-meme-shock-face-gif-8343101863982452804

[rare shoal]

@dull dust

[stone ledge]

So this is the difference of a 99 and a 100

I’m casting my surges before my convoke smdh

[normal pilot]

yes, some ppl can afford better AI models and some ppl can't. just how it is

[rare shoal]

Chancel is my AI model

Very advanced agent

[dull dust]

[dull dust]

can I still get u to be pushed down stairs

if I donate to whispyr

[rare shoal]

We got approval from bossman

[dull dust]

[stone ledge]

I actually get slapped for every sub til blizzcon and we are doing it live

[dull dust]

[lofty sphinx]

Hey does anybody know of a good addon or anything that tracks PI/lust/ebonmight buffs? (PI is the most important)

[dull dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439724942227931249/1504602514698276984/artkjd.gif

[sudden pawn]

you cant track pi or ebon might on urself p sure

u can track lust tho thru ajie cdm

[lucid olive]

ebon might is raidwide no

[sudden pawn]

ya

[lucid olive]

if anything youd track prescience but also why bother

PI i can kind of get why youd want to track but its also kinda whatever

if youre doing any organized content you usually plan out PI anyway