#balance

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livid jay
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how many of these shards do we need and how many drop?

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for upgrading the weapon

ruby badger
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Just listened to this while working

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Pretty good summary

livid jay
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dont think my boss whos sitting across the desk needs that info xD

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ill check later

ruby badger
livid jay
ruby badger
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Endgame content drops voidshards
5 shards = 1 voidcore
1 voidcore upgrades a 6/6 myth or 6/6 hero item

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No timegatedness

livid jay
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ah

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5 shards per

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ok

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a guildie just told me 20

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and i was like

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NO WAY

sudden flame
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thats to upgrade everything

wise hare
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just make sure to wait

sudden flame
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probably where they got confused

wise hare
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until they patch it to be 100% drop rate form heroic/mythic and 10s

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aint no way iam going to grind out t1 ritual sites for that 16% drop chance rn

livid jay
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yea

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waiting untilö 100% is in

livid jay
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5 each x3?

sudden flame
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main hand off hand both trinkets

livid jay
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oh ok yea

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i got a 2h

royal zenith
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that's proper jobless life

vital hound
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im actually

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so good at this game

wise hare
sudden flame
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13 roll win is crazy 💀

vital hound
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assuming i was gonna lose

sudden flame
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actual stars aligned moment

vital hound
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fr

ruby badger
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👀

livid jay
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<@&114146878353833984>

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that was fast

vital pewter
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Do we only send voidcore on crafted weapon or is it gucci to send on a 289 myth track weapon? (Thinking embelishments)

craggy sonnet
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depends what you have?

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surely you have 2 embells right now?

vital pewter
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Yeah for embel on bracers and neck, since i got Nexus staff myth track in vault a few weeks ago

craggy sonnet
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so whats the question then?

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why would you not want to send on your current weapon

wise hare
orchid fox
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If I use a mythic 2h instead of crafted 2h. What would my other craft be other than the wrist?

wise hare
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idk sim it?

lucid olive
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What ilvl are your gloves

wise hare
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anything low stat weight prolly

livid jay
orchid fox
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I’m currently wearing crafted gloves bc the game glitched and my wrists are stuck in mailbox until I get them recrafted

wise hare
lucid olive
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Crafted gloves are good

orchid fox
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I’m wondering is it only worth 1h if you get beloren weapon mythic?

wise hare
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@lucid olive thoughts about crafted off hand

lucid olive
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It's okay

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Crafted staff with hunt, crafted offhand with hunt or mythic weapons with 2x Arcanoweave will just all depend on your character shrug

wise hare
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i think its time i take pi from our ww monk

lucid olive
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2x Arcanoweave better for Lura though

tranquil vault
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thinking if i should upgrade my crafted staff with voidcore.. or craft the offhand and use it with the magister terrace dagger and upgrade that..

lucid olive
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any combination of main hand and offhand can be good

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sim your character to make sure

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👍

orchid fox
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Ty

tranquil vault
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i dont have access to mythic raid at the moment. are there good options from mythic dungeons for weapons at the moment?

slender island
lucid olive
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but nexus point best place to spend your bonus roll until you get the two rings, and the dungeon also has a staff

tranquil vault
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wasted last rolls on magisters for the gloves and a headpiece that i could upgrade but will run nexus then

dreamy iron
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Hi guys. Pretty new to WoW and totally new to druid. Balance seems like a cool spec, thematically, and given the timewalking event I'd level a druid up and possibly make it my main. My question is, is the spec as intimidating as it looks? First glance over the rotation and I feel like I'll perform extremely poorly

livid jay
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Its not harder or more complicated than most other specs

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The rotation priority lists might look confusing but once you got the basics down they start making sense

rare wedge
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Hi everyone, what is the best weapon now that we can upgrade ilvl with Ascendant voidcore ?

wise hare
livid jay
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yea, compared to other specs, boomkin has a rather low count of rotational buttons (excluding cooldowns) but the complexity comes from the interaction of different buffs and you wanting to overlap buff windows for big damage

rare wedge
delicate perch
wise hare
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might be bis

dreamy iron
delicate perch
fossil hemlock
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Hero and above only, unforch

wise hare
dreamy iron
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Awh man the spec looks so cool, I suppose I should give it a shot still

wise hare
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sure why not

sonic totem
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I've been playing Resto all season and had to switch to balance for raid last night and did pretty terrible. I'm trying to figure out the most important thing to focus on to improve quickly, but I'm not very good at identifying key issues in logs. Would someone mind looking and helping me learn what to pay more attention to? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gh46yxqF98RHW2wL?fight=24&type=damage-done&source=1

lucid olive
delicate perch
ripe kraken
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my roar was casting growl on first boss in voidspire

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is this normal? lol

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not macro'd

delicate perch
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is your roar button on your form bind + the same bind as roar

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but no not normal

ripe kraken
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nah it's 4 / 1

delicate perch
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gg druid broken

ripe kraken
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happened twice, once i'd believe

lucid olive
delicate perch
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0 crystals for me to pad on

lucid olive
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Rip

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We have 2 devourer and 1 havoc

delicate perch
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I get a bit on later sets

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but the first set just vanish

lucid olive
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Have you swapped to rattle convoke yet

delicate perch
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ya

lucid olive
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Funny how I recommended that build for weeks saying it's good for Lura

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With Arctic on my ass telling people it's bad

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Until some Russian guy cops R1 by over 10k

delicate perch
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regular btw

lofty depot
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Junior/senior highschool

lucid olive
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And as soon as some guy gets the R1 then Arctic is like LOOK ITS SECRET TECH MAN WOAHZA

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Peanut brain

lofty depot
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Also I was playing it before he r1'd

craggy sonnet
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nah, should rather go full pad for 20s of a 9min fight

royal zenith
livid jay
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these colored names smh amiright deux

ruby badger
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Tbf certain comps playing for crystal damage as boomie is actually relatively ethical

lofty depot
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Pad when those adds wipe u

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Mmhm mmhm

royal zenith
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on mythic you kinda need crystal damage ye

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it's justified

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but fucking vorasius

lofty depot
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Well u weren't playing manual mushrooms on vorasius

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But nonetheless

royal zenith
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I wonder about the crystal damage though

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something doesn't add up, why it's so high on logs

lofty depot
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What part is high

royal zenith
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boomies damage

lucid olive
lofty depot
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Oh, convoke 1m ezp FM procs

ruby badger
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We have incarn for all of them and can start hitting before they're grouped

lucid olive
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And he wasn't taking Meteor Storm

ruby badger
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or convoke if you're that guy

lofty depot
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Also now that people surely looking adds giga fast and swapping off add damage

royal zenith
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I also just think starfall damage on these type of adds is very sus

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but maybe Im biased and hate starfall

ruby badger
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Wdym

lofty depot
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Now they live long enough so u don't

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I don't want to play NB tho

royal zenith
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well it's not really the type of damage MM hunters do (or did)

lofty depot
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Playing UI sotf

royal zenith
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like is it actually helpful damage or it's just like

craggy sonnet
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i think sotf makes no sense with convokle

royal zenith
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tickling the adds

ruby badger
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Boomies usually are some of the best crystal killers

royal zenith
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okay calm down

lofty depot
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Uhh, I'm doing 9-10 mil still

royal zenith
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if that was true, we would've been brought to WF

lofty depot
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People swapped off of instant add dam

pallid bay
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damage dosnt matter guys..

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crystals dying matter more than boss dps

sudden flame
lofty depot
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Mmhm mmhm

ruby badger
royal zenith
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ah now I know why my brain had issues with this

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ty oi

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if you put 2 boomkins on crystal damage, will that be enough

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that's the question you should ask

ruby badger
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and RWF are so optimized they can stack classes that not only shred the crystals but also do great boss damage and do well as crystal holders

pallid bay
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unless u make up an enrage again

royal zenith
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but if something is really good, you can't avoid the option

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boomkin is also really good on birb

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but you didn't play it in an optimized comp

ruby badger
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RWF also needed like 10 immunes

royal zenith
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like is balance druid really the most efficient option rn, to kill crystals

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anyway food for thought

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enjoy

ruby badger
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Who said most??

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We're just one of the best at it

royal zenith
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I think

lofty depot
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Dh is tbf

royal zenith
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you just need to read what I said with less of a "he's being argumentative" attitude

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cause I'm just thinking out loud

craggy sonnet
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and how much are others investing into killing adds?

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are we actually one of the better

lucid olive
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Deux arguing and being rude again smh

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(kidding)

royal zenith
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ikr...

ruby badger
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Everyone lines up their CDs with crystal spawns

craggy sonnet
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or we just the dumb chimken sacrificing their dmg

jolly delta
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it has a few missing features, a few very good features, a few weird features but

royal zenith
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that's what I mean ye, clankz

jolly delta
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I set everything up and I'm loading 50% faster yeah

lofty depot
jolly delta
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4s vs 8s with elvui

ruby badger
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I mean yeah our CD profile is what makes us good at 2nd set

lofty depot
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No

ruby badger
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but 1st and 3rd 2min CDs crank on

lofty depot
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We're good at 3rd set

ruby badger
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we're good at all of them and we cover the set people typically don't have CDs for

royal zenith
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any set where you have vaelgor's up, is a good set

lofty depot
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Wrong

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
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We're not good at first set

royal zenith
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well we are

ruby badger
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True, first set is a bit chudded

royal zenith
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the situation doesn't change except for external factors

royal zenith
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(more people sending cd's)

ruby badger
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but first set is usually so chill cause everyone is lining up CDs

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and there's so few crystals

lofty depot
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I was doing 5-7 mil on sets 1-2 and then doubling it on set 3

craggy sonnet
# jolly delta I can try

would be interesting to know (and see if you can improve their performance tweaking some settings or whatever)

royal zenith
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the amount of damage is kinda irrelevant if you have more crystals in set 3 vs set 1

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type of damage does matter

lucid olive
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There are +2 crystals every spawn I think

lofty depot
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3 manual mushrooms set 3 went hard

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Bring me back

royal zenith
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it's like saying you're really good at 10target fights versus 2target fights cause you do 10 million more dmg

lucid olive
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Idk mushroom just felt like shit after I specced FoE

fossil hemlock
lofty depot
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Mushroom felt good in p2 when I'm spamming dots anyway

royal zenith
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arctic the kind of freak that would stand in shit to pad hps meters

lofty depot
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Convoke feel fine tho

lucid olive
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Can have 2-3 Starfall already running when crystals spawn

royal zenith
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and wipe your raid

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thoughts??

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mattiu 2.0

lofty depot
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U stand in puddles that give u free Starfire procs

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That's big dam

royal zenith
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@craggy sonnet did you check foe?

craggy sonnet
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what exactly?

royal zenith
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cause that convo we had about stacked aoe is kind of interesting

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specifically for lura too

pallid bay
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shocking

ruby badger
royal zenith
craggy sonnet
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oh, uhh .. no. that would require setting up events and what not and syncing stuff to the events

pallid bay
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mushroom kinda sucks in general

lofty depot
royal zenith
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that's what I'm thinking ye oi

pallid bay
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its just always feels like a clunky gcd

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dosnt really fit except to pad

craggy sonnet
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but foe doesnt scale super hard in aoe .. it just scales (compared to UE which doesnt)

ruby badger
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Are you a tank now Oi or was it just for prog

lucid olive
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He's a bdk main soon

pallid bay
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idk what im gonna do

craggy sonnet
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its sqrt scaling right away

pallid bay
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this spec is just so bad

lofty depot
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But the point at the time was we needed more add damage and I knew I could do it. Then swap off later

craggy sonnet
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and AP is good in aoe

pallid bay
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nothing feels particularly rewarding

lofty depot
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But the idea was to swap to foe rather than convoke 1m

lucid olive
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Nah next season end boss is gonna have 20 adds all placed 4 yards apart in a 80 yard diameter circle

pallid bay
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1m convoke is also shit gameplay

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EC is atrocious

lofty depot
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It's not that bad, it's annoying to think about tho

pallid bay
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spec just aint it really

craggy sonnet
royal zenith
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logic would say foe is a better gcd for crystal phase

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🤝

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shrooms bad

craggy sonnet
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foe doesnt compete with shrooms tho

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most of the time

lofty depot
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Again, I wasn't killing the boss a week ago so that doesn't matter to he arguement of we needed more add dmaage

craggy sonnet
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talent point wise

lucid olive
lofty depot
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Well it does when u have stacked aoe lol

lucid olive
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Cause having both spells is incredibly cringe gameplay

royal zenith
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compete with, damage wise

pallid bay
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both sunseeker and mushroom could just get deleted for all i care ngl

royal zenith
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or prio wise

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or all

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🍄 👉 🚪

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meteor storm + foe gaming

craggy sonnet
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no i mean that to pick up foe you do not drop shrooms .. whichever variant

royal zenith
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more boss damage and decent crystal damage??

lucid olive
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Whatever a talent sim takes isn't really relevant to that

royal zenith
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rank 1 log doesn't even play manual shroom nor foe

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gg's

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and here everyone is getting advised by arctic

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joever

lofty depot
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On dragons even right, like taking foe and instead taking AC is essentially the same asp but 1 less gcd for ur cd timing

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And feels less cringe

craggy sonnet
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and that may be a bigger hit for the rest of the fight

lofty depot
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U don't need foe

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Thought process wrong

royal zenith
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"need"

lucid olive
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Since playing both buttons feels really bad

royal zenith
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you don't need manual shrooms either arctic

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thought process wrong

lofty depot
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Ur going into each add set with full asp, if ur pressing foe ur losing 5-10 asp, pressing. It 2-3 seconds early cuz ur trying to prep starfalls

craggy sonnet
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wdym thought process wrong .. the convo was about foe or manual shrooms (if any)

lucid olive
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You said you won't remove Wild Mushroom to take FoE

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But that's false

lofty depot
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Yes ik and ur prepping into sets ur taking 2-3 gcds pre drops to do this and losing the asp anyway

lucid olive
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Lost in sim sauce narrative

craggy sonnet
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what?

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i wasnt even responding to you but arctic

lofty depot
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So practically its worse

royal zenith
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no clankz was responding to questions I asked

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wasn't really sim-related

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Im still curious about the actual good gcd's to press on lura though

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maybe one day I will play that fight

lofty depot
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Starfall good gcd

craggy sonnet
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you instead have to not pick UE

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or whatever

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EG

lucid olive
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A sim doesn't drop the point in Shrooms to take FoE

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If you have active Mushroom and you want FoE then you will swap over to Sunseeker

craggy sonnet
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i never said anything about taking both

royal zenith
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so it drops useless gcd's is what you're saying

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manual shroom confirmed shit?

lofty depot
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What the

pallid bay
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vinter is typing..

lucid olive
pallid bay
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press enter already

royal zenith
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noted...

lofty depot
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Convoke good gcd

royal zenith
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probably the best in the game

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for balance druid..

lofty depot
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Bring down big moon on 2 add sets

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Need to not proc FM on first set

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I also hate sunseeker cuz that funny guy r1 and got a proc on 3rd set

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And I could never

royal zenith
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and here you are

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hard-casting shrooms

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failing

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loooool

lofty depot
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Well I'm not talking about that u fuck

royal zenith
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:)

lofty depot
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3 big manual mushrooms on 3rd set, I was blasting

royal zenith
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are you close to a kill

lofty depot
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Uhhhhhhhhh

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Yea......

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My RL missing Thursday rho

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Kill Monday surely

royal zenith
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hof closed by then

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oh wtf

lofty depot
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My guild doesn't overtime for Hof either so if we miss we miss

royal zenith
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already 142 kills

lofty depot
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145 I thought

royal zenith
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either voidcores make a big dif

lofty depot
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Warcraftlogs had 145 last night

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Or 148.....

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Can't remember

royal zenith
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hof is closing this week basically?

lofty depot
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But depends who's over timing this weekend right

ruby badger
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It'll be close this reset

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But OT'ers might get spooked and close it

royal zenith
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I think tons of guilds will overtime

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unironically

lofty depot
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Ye

royal zenith
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yeah they are spooked already

jolly delta
royal zenith
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including my own

ruby badger
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I think natty prog it would stay open barely

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anyone who's close to a kill rn doesn't get closer with weapon upgrades I feel

lofty depot
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Lol maybe u get a funny extend announcement on monday

royal zenith
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this ramped up so fast

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that's kinda nuts

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it was like 110ish pre-reset?

lofty depot
jolly delta
royal zenith
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yeah that's bit of a cap

craggy sonnet
royal zenith
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ilvl always helps, regardless

jolly delta
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party frames

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raid frames

lofty depot
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I mean... Ur not wiping cuz ur missing. 3% dam right now

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Ur wiping cuz of mechanics

sudden flame
jolly delta
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i mean, there's no way to disable just the individual unitframes in elvui

royal zenith
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"ilvl won't save you from crystal wipes!"

lofty depot
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Idk 240?

royal zenith
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the classic

craggy sonnet
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Just loading the module takes longer even if you are not in a party? Or did you test in a follower dungeon or something

ruby badger
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It would've helped early P1s with killing crystals more consistently when they're sloppily grouped
But anyone close rn is probably not wiping from that

royal zenith
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"you just need to play P1 better!"

civic crystal
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hi im from feral channel, just wanna say that we are cooler. have a great day.

jolly delta
jolly delta
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looks like youre not from feral either

lofty depot
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That's not the point of what I said... Tho

royal zenith
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opinion disregarded

civic crystal
royal zenith
civic crystal
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whats that boomkins

lofty depot
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So ur a casual

pallid bay
royal zenith
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you're in a social setting rn, you need to earn credits before spending them

civic crystal
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keep guessing

royal zenith
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no matter what screenshots you post

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leaf...

civic crystal
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what else is there in the game that doesnt require the discord

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ill give u cat gif as reward

sudden flame
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delves PogCat

lofty depot
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Don't think the game requires discord

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The deaf guild be killing stuff

civic crystal
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i think they can read though, but im not sure im not handicapped

jolly delta
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pet battles...

lofty depot
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U think they got discord open and are reading the 21st man type out call outs

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Ferals....

civic crystal
lofty depot
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Was that hard for u

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First time or

sudden flame
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PvPer Ahhhh

civic crystal
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imagine being an actual human being saying multi glad is casual

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yes im a pvper u got me

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bye!!!

sudden flame
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sorry i main feral i just have no respect for pvpers

civic crystal
royal zenith
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isn't pvp like dead in this game

lofty depot
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Played it week 1 for pvp gear. Quite frankly so hard pressing convoke

royal zenith
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1k viewers for AWC?

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if any

lofty depot
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There's like 12 people playing pvp

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U can do the pvp quests against bots

sharp tangle
lofty depot
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He enjoys chicken some times

sharp tangle
royal zenith
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✈️

sharp tangle
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🛫 🛬

uncut roost
sharp tangle
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hold this

velvet vigil
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ever find out if this is how it works?

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Like if I send the upgrade on my heroic trinket, which makes it a 285, then a mythic trinket drops can I upgrade it to match the 285 for free?

sudden flame
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seems like a bad idea to me but i guess if you can farm an infinite amount of cores it wouldnt be too bad

lofty depot
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Should work cuz it's the ilvl based

uncut roost
lofty depot
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But ya there's no timegate so just got farm it

tranquil vault
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first roll i got the staff hmm

lofty depot
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Big

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Bigly

tranquil vault
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but will lose my crafter embelishment hmm

fossil hemlock
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Put it somewhere else

tranquil vault
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got crafted boots and wrists also

lofty depot
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Yea but hunt is yucky

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Give vers on hard boss

civic crystal
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so fear can tell me how to play the game

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like all other pve players

lofty depot
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So if pvp is dead so is feral?

civic crystal
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car spec will never die

craggy sonnet
tranquil vault
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will change wrists 🙂

jolly delta
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what's the latest status

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whats the quickest way to get the shards

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is it still ritual sites or did they fix it

delicate perch
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wait for the fix

lofty depot
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Ritual sites still

delicate perch
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logout

lofty depot
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Later today it'll be 100% drop from your 4 weekly prey and 11 bountiful delves

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Otherwise just slam m+ 10s

lofty depot
jade flume
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I think i did 10 and got 0

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Gonna slam later today tho

lofty depot
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We were getting 1.5min clears

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Zooming

jade flume
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Need to at least get the weppy upgraded

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Yeah we were at a 1.4m pace type shi

lucid olive
royal zenith
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wait for the fix

lucid olive
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Curious if the change is before or after my raid

royal zenith
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who wants to grind 1 hour per upgrade

lucid olive
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We don't reclear before Lura tonight

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Just going straight in

royal zenith
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ballsdeep?

lofty depot
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Idk seems odd

jade flume
tranquil vault
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did a m+ and got an item, not sure if they hotfixed it or just luck that it dropped 🙂

lofty depot
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But maybe they hotfix it later in the day so EU doesn't get it during peak hours?

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Seems a little sus

lofty depot
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I slammed like 40 nxp for rings

jade flume
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Imagine not grinding and they lose rank 1 by 10 dps

tranquil vault
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i made a mistake by taking mythicn bracers fro the vault and now i dont use them 🙁

lofty depot
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Why r we making mistakes

tranquil vault
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making decissions too quick 🙂

lofty depot
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Can u craft cloak or

tranquil vault
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got this cloak at the moment

lofty depot
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I still have gloves crafted

pallid bay
tranquil vault
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got these gloves

pallid bay
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so 17-03 our time basically

delicate perch
sudden flame
#

facts

lofty depot
#

Play the game or

tacit sinew
#

Hi Guys a Guild Mate Need some advice but I cant help cause I dont know shit about Balance druid. She want to do more dps and do better parse. Could someone with knowledge look over the logs and could tell me what she do wrong or what could be done better ? Char is Fenrawr

fair pasture
#

pretty sure they broke the eversong lure location

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ok wtf zul aman i cant use my lure either

eager raft
lofty depot
#

Wow gamz another 1m convoke player I wonder if they know how to play it hmm

lofty depot
#

No where in the guide does it say to wrath in lunar eclipse

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Also, were just sending CA for fun and not with other cds

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So lack understanding of where damage comes from

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Ig read the funny part about starfiring but didn't read it said in ca and not in every eclipse

fair pasture
#

i did that for a while at the start

lofty depot
#

A lot of dot spamming adds I suppose

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Sending surges outside of eclipse

quiet fulcrum
#

Question, for dragons trinket we using it with incarn are we holding the second charge till trinket CD comes off?

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More before I dive into logs later thought I’d ask

lofty depot
#

U send at 2m roughly

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U could've dove into logs and seen that tho

quiet fulcrum
#

I’m at work don’t want my iPad filled with logs atm

lofty depot
#

U don't need to fill it with logs

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Can just look at lorrgs

tacit sinew
#

Ty for The answers

lofty depot
#

There's a lot of yapping on the dreamgrove.gg guide about that stuff

tacit sinew
#

Ty

livid jay
#

Anyone know if the hotfix is in yet?

lofty depot
#

Nop

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They just got to the office

proven rapids
#

I don't think I got a clear answer for this before, so I apologize if I did, but as a elunes chosen is there any reason for me to use wrath ever?

#

It doesn't proc fury of elunes cooldown reducer (whatever it's called) so it doesn't seem particularly useful to me

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(I'm also levelling and doing casual content, not any high level mythics or stuff)

lofty depot
#

Outside of eclipse on st yes

proven rapids
#

What does "on st" mean?

lofty depot
#

Single target

proven rapids
#

Sometimes I get the solar eclipse but not often

proven rapids
#

Thanks!

lofty depot
#

As ec ur not in solar eclipse unless ur in ca/incarn

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Unless u don't have lunar calling talented I suppose

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But ur asking minmax questions while leveling

proven rapids
#

The best time to learn is during levelling

normal pilot
#

nah

lofty depot
#

I disagree but sure

normal pilot
#

wow's just not made that way

lofty depot
#

Ur not doing a rotation, shit lives like 3 seconds.

normal pilot
#

the best thing you can learn while leveling is to get it over asap so you waste less time and get started quicker learning on real content

lofty depot
#

Based

proven rapids
lofty depot
#

Leveling the worst part every expac

proven rapids
#

I personally disagree, I enjoy it.

lofty depot
#

I mean yea we play the game differently

normal pilot
#

sure you can take the time and enjoy the campaign and all just don't expect to learn anything useful until you're finished and doing endgame content

proven rapids
#

👍

lofty depot
#

It's almost time to log in 1 day a week

proven rapids
#

I'll probably never be into mythic but maybe I'll pug up some heroic dungeons

normal pilot
#

nah mythics are pretty easy these days

proven rapids
#

They just don't appeal to me

maiden pasture
#

M+ is toxic but base mythic dungeons are really approachable tbf

proven rapids
#

There's a difference between mythic and m+?

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I thought they were the same thing :O

lofty depot
#

normal
heroic
Mythic
m+
1+
2+ etc...

#

different levels of difficulty

proven rapids
#

Ahhh okay

wispy lake
#

where we can farm quickly to have the fragments

lofty depot
#

ritual sites until the hotfix is in

maiden pasture
lofty depot
#

the reward for doing it faster is getting it over with silly

proven rapids
#

What ilvl should I aim for when I ding 90 for regular mythics?

proven rapids
fair pasture
#

I like practicing my rotation in delves

lofty depot
#

u like looking at the plants while ur in instances or

#

what else we trying to do in content besides do big dam and kill things fast

fair pasture
#

Plants :3

proven rapids
lofty depot
#

the only time ive actively explored something is doing skulls on halo 3

proven rapids
#

Windrunner Spire has so many little details you'd absolutely miss if you rushed through it, which is fine later on

lofty depot
#

and that was cuz i was getting a cosmetic

fair pasture
#

Was it an opaque cover for ur bathroom mirror so u don't have to look at urself

#

GOTTEM

proven rapids
maiden pasture
lofty depot
#

lol

proven rapids
#

That's why my druid is still level 83 and my death knight only has an ilvl of like 248

lofty depot
#

i mean is fair.... just asking dps questions while looking at plants

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idk

fair pasture
#

Plenty of that to do when the southwest harandar instance is in m+

#

With all the light bloom stuff

lofty depot
#

yea totally wont be teleporting to the dungeon and not noticing anything

proven rapids
proven rapids
lofty depot
#

its actually the correct way of playing, because they added portals to the dungeons to make it faster

proven rapids
#

There's no wrong way to play it, and no correct way to play it

lofty depot
#

incorrect to fly to the dungeon

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why did they add it to the gave if they didnt want u to use it

maiden pasture
#

Hope you're playing in the correct way and tracking humanoids and maxing out all achievements arctic

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Would be wrong to not use what they added to the game

proven rapids
lofty depot
#

thats curious

#

thats ur content

lofty depot
maiden pasture
#

Feats of strength don't count towards achievement progression on the %

lofty depot
#

are mythic kills feat of strength

maiden pasture
#

Mythic kills can be done way later than the season

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Doing them that season is feat of strength

lofty depot
#

Ok but u see those posts every season of the first person to complete 100% that season

proven rapids
#

I'm glad that the game has enough variety for all types of players

icy turtle
#

Hi there! I'm new to both dudu and the server 🙂 Seems like a good spot to get some guidance on the class...This is the correct place to ask for help with balance gameplay right?

fair pasture
#

ya

icy turtle
#

Playing Elune's chosen, I'm not sure I quite understand how to play against bosses in m+...once both stacks of elune's chosen are used, I dont know if I'm meant to use starfire/starfall even against the boss, so one target (cause I only have lunar eclipse left) or if I should use wrath/starsurge even though I'm in lunar...Am I missing something?

lofty depot
#

Well u surge on st

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"even though I'm in lunar"

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Lunar buffs surge and starfall

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You don't use wrath in lunar no

icy turtle
#

so while eclipse is up I should starfire + starsurge, and out of it wrath to charge astral power?

lofty depot
#

Ye

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If you're playing weaver u use procs on starfall

icy turtle
#

tyvm!

craggy sonnet
#

i really wonder where this misconception comes from?

#

that solar buffs surge and lunar buffs starfall

lofty depot
#

Lunar = aoe so surge isn't that so it can't be buffed by it

craggy sonnet
#

mhmm

lofty depot
#

Mmhm mmhm

icy turtle
craggy sonnet
#

but its STARsurge and STARfall

#

why is one sun spell and the other moon?

normal pilot
#

they're blue

craggy sonnet
#

not blaming you btw .. the game does a shit job explaining

normal pilot
#

blue = moon yellow = sun

craggy sonnet
#

but it happens regularly

icy turtle
craggy sonnet
#

nah, i was just curious how that forms

craggy sonnet
#

?

normal pilot
#

purple is just a shade of blue

loud kettle
craggy sonnet
#

yes but why is shade of blue buffed by yellow sun

normal pilot
#

oh. ya that makes no sense

#

stupid blizz

#

you can't even see stars when the sun is out

wise scroll
#

i used my bonus rolls on nexus point for mythic weapon but again no luck. I have 2 sparks, so should I craft a weapon?

loud kettle
#

maybe you cant

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Me personally? I can always see at least 1 star when the sun is out

craggy sonnet
royal zenith
#

I can show you a full moon if you want

lofty depot
#

U craft neck if ur not gonna farm pit

loud kettle
wise scroll
#

i spent 5 rolls but no weapon

royal zenith
icy turtle
lofty depot
#

Week 500 no hero neck

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Week 500 didn't craft weapon yet

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Idk

wise scroll
wise scroll
lofty depot
#

Mistakes were made

wise scroll
lofty depot
#

Doubt

wise scroll
#

could i stick feral?

lofty depot
#

Playing feral

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Mistake

wise scroll
#

uh so right decision roll to balance lol

lofty depot
#

Well sure but that's a week 2 mistake mmhm mmhm

loud kettle
#

Nah another mistake

wise scroll
#

lol

lofty depot
#

Which was rolling DPS druid and not bear

#

Should be playing bear

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Mmhm mmhm

#

But alas

#

U would just wait til next week to get staff presumably

#

Also crafting ring was a choice

#

Really went all in on despair

wise scroll
#

i got second ring from nexus. i can use them as set. and i can craft neck. seems okay?

lofty depot
#

Idk sim it

craggy sonnet
#

no shot crafting neck over weap is the play in the short term

wise scroll
lofty depot
#

Short term being 1 week or

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I mean "wasting" but sure

#

But u'll have both 285 neck and 289 weapon next week

#

If u craft weapon this week u can only have neck 276

wise scroll
#

Probably i can get staff with bonus roll next week %100 because i got all items instead of staff lol

lofty depot
#

It's not a spark problem persay

#

It's a ilvl item max decision

craggy sonnet
#

oh, i didnt read that. if you can get weap guaranteed next week, sure

lofty depot
#

What's the likelihood he needs a weapon this week

craggy sonnet
#

considering a lot of those items are still at 1/6 myth tho

#

idk if crafting neck is the highest prio for crests

lofty depot
#

Clearly hasn't farmed full mythic crests

#

Clearly hasn't done cool mythic crest tech either

#

Maybe didn't get 30 free from killing delve boss thoughts

wise scroll
#

delve boss gives free m crests even i got weekly cap?

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because i never killed it

lofty depot
#

I'm a savant

#

I drink and I know things

lofty depot
wise scroll
#

its gives one time?

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or every week?

shadow willow
#

one time

wise scroll
#

ok

royal zenith
#

arctic called it uncapped looooooooooool

lofty depot
#

Is there a different word for it

#

I forgot

royal zenith
#

nah just doesnt count for cap

lofty depot
#

Yea same same

#

Nonetheless, read like a book

wise scroll
#

really crafting amulet is worth on this state?

lofty depot
#

Idk link the sim cuz u doing funny stuff

lofty depot
#

EC to be funny

fiery kindle
uncut roost
#

Hero track rings

fiery kindle
#

nah they are myth

#

i dont have crest xD

round field
#

l bozo

wise scroll
#

so i'll craft neck with 2 sparks because thats all i have and next week use bonus roll on nexus staff. right?

#

and discard loa ring lol

#

ill stick with hero staff within this week

lofty depot
#

Neck is 1 spark

wise scroll
#

i have two now. Can I consider both?

#

btw neck is 2 😮

round field
#

everything is 2...

lofty depot
#

Oh that's not what I mean

royal zenith
lofty depot
#

Staff is ... 4

round field
#

if u craft 2h ur noob

lofty depot
#

What's ur excuse then

round field
#

i didnt craft a 2h

royal zenith
#

poor

round field
#

whats ur point

lofty depot
#

Yea so what's ur excuse for being noob

round field
#

im old and washed

lofty depot
#

How can u be washed if u were never dirty

round field
#

what does that even mean

lofty depot
#

@lucid olive

wise scroll
#

what did i wrong just curious

lofty depot
#

Cuz ur simming some jank shit

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I also changed a bunch of stats and shit

#

Ur simming 1t 3m for w.e. reason aswell

wintry umbra
#

I remember one of the ppl who check logs in here showing someone a view of the breakdown of when they used their CDs for showing lining them up, how do I get that view in wcl

craggy sonnet
#

"casts" tab and then "timelines" view in the top right?

lucid olive
#

or wowanalyzer

craggy sonnet
#

yeah, im not sure what kinda breakdown

wintry umbra
#

yeah unfortunately i cant remember exactly what it looked like

lucid olive
#

there are several ways to get a view like that in logs

#

just click around

wintry umbra
# lucid olive

right i knew that one someone had one that had all three (foe, ca, trees) displayed at the same time in the timeline with only those

lucid olive
#

yes, every website with log functionality like that lets you filter spells

main phoenix
lofty depot
#

It doesn't suffer

#

What suffers is ur other choices

main phoenix
#

What does that mean? ^^ You imply the number of voidcores used?

jolly delta
#

idk why I bothered to censor...

lofty depot
#

Ur gaming

lofty depot
#

Hold on....

main phoenix
#

oooh true

#

that means I've wasted sparks en large

lofty depot
#

That implies u have 2 sparks to craft for arcanoweave tho

main phoenix
#

Yes I do!

#

Holy molly, this is much better

lofty depot
#

Some of that is the enchant change

#

Since ur using the wrong ones

main phoenix
#

Thanks! I really appreciate this!

#

Omg 5%

#

unbelievable 😄

wise scroll
lofty depot
#

U can't put arcanoweave on neck

#

But the top one is crafted neck + other item arcano

wise scroll
#

got it

cobalt junco
#

yoo guys! ❤️ im now on lura mythic prog wo hoo, i see lots of different talents. mainly convoke v incarn whats best for pad??? HEHE joking wats best or is just preference?

lofty depot
#

It's not pad

round field
#

he said hehe joking

lofty depot
#

Those crystals need to die or u wipe.silly

round field
#

cant u read

lofty depot
#

STFU rat

round field
#

wtf

#

rude

cobalt junco
lofty depot
#

Ele only deletes first set

#

Butt u have more damage playing incarn and the pad manual mushrooms build

#

But later on, it's very likely u should be playing 1m convoke if u can

#

If u prefer incarn to convoke u can play it regardless it'll just do less and less as everyone gets more gear

cobalt junco
#

idm either but i see most people playing metor storm instead of shrrom

lofty depot
#

Yea no one killed it with the build I was padding with

#

But meteor storm doesn't fight with mushrooms.

#

I'm no longer playing meteor storm now either

#

Cuz were taking damage off adds, which means they live a little longer

cobalt junco
#

also see some rartle and some star

#

this wat i got so far

lofty depot
#

Started playing rattle too, but that's a st convoke thing

#

I'm not playing foe

#

I would rathe not play foe with convoke but that's me

cobalt junco
#

so do u play rattle with c onvoke?

lofty depot
#

I do

#

U don't have to tho

#

If u want to play weaver u can

cobalt junco
#

is there a ny other adds than crystals?

lofty depot
#

No

cobalt junco
#

i want good log XDD

lofty depot
#

What's good

#

Ur fighting like 3 degens that are minmaxing the build as u prog lol

#

Some people won't swap around talents and play incarn forever

#

Some likely haven't played convoke 1m all tier so it might be a change for them

cobalt junco
#

so like 80+ i guess

lofty depot
#

I did 180~ pulls with incarn and swapped

lofty depot
cobalt junco
#

u drop foe for umbral?

lofty depot
#

Uhhh I suppose technically it's ue

#

Or sundered

#

But sundered will look weird

#

Ur generally going into add sets with 100 asp and the way u sequence foe ur sending it 2-3 seconds prior to cd-ing so it's just wasting the asp u were trying to gain from it

cobalt junco
#

im playing orbit breaker not sund.

lofty depot
#

That doesn't fight with that either......

#

Ur always playing orbit breaker lol

cobalt junco
#

with opener from what im seeing is pooling off pull then at like 11sec popping into 2-3 starfalls to use cosmos stacks then covoke

lofty depot
#

U use all ur asp prior to convoke yes

#

Just make sure it convoke prior to trees ending

#

3s cast

cobalt junco
#

sorry not cosmos, the apex talent thing the 3 stacks

lofty depot
#

Well again it's rather about emptying ur asp prior to convoke

vernal pollen
#

love bonus rolling the necklace on crown for all the shadow damage i do 🙃

lofty depot
#

Why we bonus rolling not our bis

#

Nxp ring does shadow dam surely

vernal pollen
#

Farm m+ no thx

lofty depot
#

Brain rot

cobalt junco
lofty depot
#

Garyeet

#

I do a few things specific to my roars....

#

Cuz I'm roaring every beam.... So I usually eclipsing prior to beam spending surges roaring then instant wrath to get back in

cobalt junco
#

luckly we have couple druids/shamys so im only doing like 2/3

lofty depot
#

There's other minmaxs like positioning but cuz glaives are giga cringe but ye

#

I would prefer if I didn't have to roar p2

#

But I have to do so twice....

cobalt junco
#

yeah this boss is already lame asf haha

lofty depot
#

Lame what the

#

Boss is fun

cobalt junco
#

i imagine it is

lofty depot
#

I'd be having more fun with a crystal

cobalt junco
#

but we wiping 30 secs in so f ar XD

#

day 1

lofty depot
#

Well yea day 1 is kick fiasco and people getting used to pressing icons

cobalt junco
#

i am also crystal boi!

lofty depot
#

Have fun rotting out

lofty depot
#

Bark pre add spawn

#

If u need to tr it do so... But u'll likely die to that more than u would think

cobalt junco
#

tr?

lofty depot
#

Timeline reminder

#

It's a paid for addon, think nsrt has one but never used

#

But yea boomie as seed carrier kinda sus

#

Rot damage bad

dull dust
#

120k

#

pi vantus

lofty depot
#

U could gain more

hasty mirage
#

yes the forbidden ec build

lofty depot
#

Well no, he hasn't upgraded the rings

#

His kotg build is wrong

plucky valley
lofty depot
#

Gems wrong

#

Fuck archon

craggy sonnet
#

Ye, not even the best st kotg build

#

Gg

lofty depot
#

Smh my head

craggy sonnet
#

Also not even aplmaxxing

lofty depot
#

Ain't no one doing that

#

Variables looking like tww

dense steeple
#

bro this shit is sad

lofty depot
#

Did u show them ur cosmos hof

dense steeple
#

i shouldnt have to they can see it

lofty depot
#

Smh

normal pilot
#

expecting others to do work smh

dense steeple
#

im cracked dude

#

lemme in!

lofty depot
#

So we're just making shit up or

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

Can we lock in

dense steeple
#

purple parse prog kill not bad

fiery kindle
lofty depot
fiery kindle
craggy sonnet
lofty depot
#

People trying to learn

#

Me trying to find what shit does

craggy sonnet
#

🧢

lofty depot
#

Have a menty b

royal zenith
#

you're not special

#

(none of us dps are)

dense steeple
#

i'm 7/9M and 289 equipped

#

i at least STAND OUT

royal zenith
#

yeah for sure you are the ONLY one

craggy sonnet
#

And what does it help if APL is simple but worse.. if you wanna know how to properly play based on apl (which you shouldn't do anyways)

lucid olive
#

huh

dense steeple
#

last 3 weeks ive been pugging mythic chim on my alt the queue is loaded with 275 6/9H idiots

lucid olive
#

what are u waffling about

dense steeple
#

you telling me i dont stand out from them

royal zenith
#

I dunno, I had trouble getting into nm too

#

there's just a lot of people wanting to do this shit

#

wcyd

lofty depot
#

I'm 270 on alt druid and couldn't queue into 10s as a tank

#

They hate me

royal zenith
#

they do

lofty depot
#

Just trying to get crests for crest save on main

wise hare
#

why is bro linking the most cursed sims ever

#

is this like

#

simmaxxing

#

or what

dense steeple
#

yeah the dhs call me a condiment for my upgrade choices on my alt

royal zenith
wise hare
#

ew

royal zenith
#

it's kinda clankz his thing

#

dont ask the ilvl of his druid..

royal zenith
#

:)

craggy sonnet
lofty depot
fiery kindle
#

not just simmaxing

dense steeple
fiery kindle
lofty depot
#

Should see some clanker Sims

fiery kindle
#

I want to improve my burst for Beloren, and I'll do that by simming ofc

lofty depot
#

U'll do it by playing better

dull dust
#

clanker=ai?

lofty depot
#

No

dull dust
#

clankz=ai?

lofty depot
#

Prob

dull dust
lucid olive
lofty depot
#

Sent by the restos to cause havoc

lucid olive
#

what does it mean

#

if you say something stupid in response to another conversation it doesn't unstupify it

#

just wondering if it's as stupid as i think or not

fiery kindle
#

I wonder if anyone will be able to one-phase myth beloren

craggy sonnet
#

?

lucid olive
#

nevermind

royal zenith
#

it feels like I'm reading the discord version of Dorohedoro

lofty depot
craggy sonnet
#

Arctic said he wants to look at simple APL to know how to play

jovial sundial
royal zenith
#

40 second bj's

dense steeple
#

new record

#

shatters the old record by 36 seconds

lucid olive
#

i know the context

craggy sonnet
#

That trying to learn how to play by reading the APL is not great and makes even less sense if the APL isn't "optimal"

#

Idk why you are interrogating me instead of just saying what you disliked

fair parcel
#

hi, someone have one sim with the best gear for raid please ?

royal zenith
#

nope

lucid olive
#

or if you're just a random joe going "hm, i wonder if it's better to press X during Y"

wise hare
#

seems like the hotfix is live?

lucid olive
#

then the APL should be simple so that making those changes and testing isn't a 5 hour process

#

no?

royal zenith
#

hardly anybody actually uses the APL to learn how to play this or a spec

#

else they wouldnt ask about stats and if crit is good

lofty depot
#

doing preys now gogogo

royal zenith
#

lampreys

lofty depot
#

woo ezpz gogogo

full urchin
#

Hey, is there a way to track the cd of Eclipse and it's auras in one icon with the CDM (and arcui)?

lofty depot
#

oh i forgot i need to do 5 more cores for weapon on bear

#

rip

full urchin
#

yeah it only shows the cd of eclipse

#

arcui says it should switch to the aura, but it doesnt work?

lofty depot
#

so the buff is in the buff section