#balance

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dense steeple
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great vaults were a mistake

scarlet tapir
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this thing is only for weapon and trinkets

dense steeple
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offhands are weapons

royal zenith
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It's already cringe I have to actually play the game to get this item!!

digital berry
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Cooked as in fucked, idk why crafted sims higher still

pseudo merlin
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????

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what???

lofty depot
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thats the same number

royal zenith
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you need to unloack the hammer

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and then grind 5 more items

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looool

digital berry
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True I guess but one of those options is much much much cheaper on myth crests and easier

pseudo merlin
normal pilot
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you're missing a hole

pseudo merlin
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i dont need to do shit

normal pilot
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punch one in your bracers

lofty depot
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u would craft on cloak rather

royal zenith
digital berry
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That’s 80 crests I can put into npx rings as I’m granted to get both myth track today

lofty depot
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ur crafting wrist thats 80 crests aswell

digital berry
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Surely that’s better then farming weapon, spending 80 crests on a craft to move embellishment and using hammer on new weapon

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I could just use hammer on crafted

lofty depot
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but yea if upgrading the rings is better tahn recrafting u do that

digital berry
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I still have no clue how often we’ll get new hammers

royal zenith
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dude

craggy sonnet
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let others figure that out

royal zenith
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stop worrying or

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patch dropped like what, 1 hour ago?

digital berry
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I got too much time on my hands worrying is all there is to do

royal zenith
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clearly

lofty depot
royal zenith
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if you only get 3 of these items

lofty depot
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lock that in

royal zenith
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people are gonna be scared af

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to upgrade anything

pseudo merlin
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wait why are we scared

lofty depot
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gonna have to farm voidcores

royal zenith
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stunlocked into thinking they will make a wrong decision

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"is this mythic weapon good or should I wait?"

pseudo merlin
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oh

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dude its almost june

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if youre not full bis by now

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does it even matter

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smh

royal zenith
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it doesn't

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but humans and making decisions

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scary

jaunty blaze
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thats what you have a machine for

craggy sonnet
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machine wont help you against fomo if there is a limited resource

ripe slate
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gm have we discovered tech with how the new currency works

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sounded like it’s a catalyst-y drop system for a shard that combines?

royal zenith
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all that we know is what's posted on wowhead

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and zorthas having 4 out of 5 items

ripe slate
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what the

royal zenith
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dum dum dummm

ripe slate
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I wanna be zorthas wtf

jaunty blaze
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having to farm this shit already makes me not want to do it

lofty depot
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Turn in the nihilhammer quest on your main, you get 1 of the 5 shards for free

ripe slate
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it was kinda expected to be a grind but if it’s as rough as cata gonna be pay full lol

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Painful

royal zenith
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hr 1 in 3

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HC*

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have fun

jaunty blaze
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i mean if its a set amount of shards you get its fine but if its rng like cata charges its horrible

ripe slate
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is that confirmed

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On phone

ripe slate
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Xd

royal zenith
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zorthas just said that on stream

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true lore

pseudo merlin
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i told yall this

royal zenith
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but how real that is

pseudo merlin
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a few days ago

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nobody believed

royal zenith
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that's p2

pseudo merlin
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unlucky

royal zenith
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No dude you were saying random shit

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that's why nobody believed you

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the usual!!

pseudo merlin
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i was right

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that's all i heard

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I was prophesizing doom

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and doom we have

royal zenith
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this is blizzard's way of getting us to play the game more

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it's a mystery..

ripe slate
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prophesizjng doom in a blizzard game just makes you a realist not a prophet xdd

royal zenith
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like kicking in open doors amirite??

pseudo merlin
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Well nobody else was doing it!

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So maybe both

ripe slate
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gotta hope for a light in a dark cave every now and then

sour rampart
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@royal zenith ICANT

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They just want to be mad

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Lmao

royal zenith
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I know

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thats why its funny

sour rampart
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I hate it because I try to talk rationally

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But it's impossible to talk to them when they're like this

royal zenith
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meh, that's just the discord life

dense steeple
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tbf its ravec

pseudo merlin
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?

sharp kayak
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so, is it fine to 295 crafted weapon or should i greed for a 298 later on ?

lofty depot
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We saving cores for next season

royal zenith
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and so it begins

lucid olive
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gonna take you a while to collect all the things to create the item so just bonus roll for a weapon in +10s while you're farming them or something

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it doesn't matter

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should probably find a way to word that for a pin

sharp kayak
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just rerolled from feral so im still looking for trinkets, but yea it will come with time

lucid olive
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i don't AI my pins, those are all natty baby

royal zenith
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the only people who suffer from needing to make a decision rn

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are those close to a kill on lura

lucid olive
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we had 35% best

royal zenith
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for max rank gains

lucid olive
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wiped 10 seconds into lust!!

royal zenith
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smh.

lucid olive
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the boss HP plummets like crazy in p3

craggy sonnet
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best advice is probably to just chill for now and wait for more information

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get funny core first and then breathe for a second

lofty depot
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Zorthas got 6

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Locken

normal pilot
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what if.... you spend it now and then they refund it later and you get to spend it again

lofty depot
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Double spending, pog

royal zenith
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not again

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headstart benefiting AGAIN

delicate mica
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sttupid question but we send the voidcore on wep first?

lofty depot
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Sure

delicate mica
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or final stare

lofty depot
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The correct answer u can always do is.........

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Sim it

delicate mica
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that answer always sucks

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its more fun this way

royal zenith
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you just scared to take responsibility..

lofty depot
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Yea ask someone that simmed it so u know what to do

lofty depot
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Instead of just simming it urself

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Mmhm mmhm

normal pilot
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core your helm so you can get the meta gem

lucid olive
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what if they actually meant the items to be time-gated, but they didn't add the time-gate on PTR hoping more people would test the currency

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and then messed up when porting it to live

royal zenith
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🤯

lucid olive
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and now people are chain farming them and getting more upgrades than intended, so blizzard are gonna nuke them being infinitely farmable and then give +1 upgrade item in the bag to everyone else

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thatd be the most blizzard thing to do

normal pilot
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7-day ban for exploiting

digital berry
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Is it 1/5th per key or smth

dense steeple
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i dont think blizzard gave us the %

royal zenith
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if it was known, it wouldve been posted on wowhead

digital berry
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If it’s not guaranteed from keys that’s a long ass grind

lucid olive
lofty depot
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Well it's not so

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Get to work

digital berry
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Guess it’s worth knocking down heroic and normal raids

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I’m not even in on belo prog so I have all raid night to grind

dense steeple
lofty depot
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Add LFR, add bountiful deles, add nightmare preys

dense steeple
royal zenith
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huh

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you can only loot a boss once per week either way wdym

lofty depot
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Per difficulty

dense steeple
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you can loot a boss on normal and on heroic

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you cannot loot a boe from a raid lieutenant on multiple difficulties. it is once per week

lofty depot
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But theres no reason it would be like that

royal zenith
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then you just go and do delves

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or preys

dense steeple
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nothing they do makes sense

digital berry
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Spam t1 delves

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Content

dense steeple
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has to be bountiful

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cant get them from non bountiful

digital berry
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Shit

royal zenith
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I think this makes plenty of sense

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we just don't like it

digital berry
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I’m not complaining if it’s not time gated

dense steeple
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you should

royal zenith
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there's no rule on these drops

dense steeple
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its a complete blantant disrespect on your time

royal zenith
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they can do whatever they want tbf

digital berry
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Having to do something in order to get something is not disrespect on my time

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It’s the core motto of mmorpgs

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Engage with the content to obtain rewards

royal zenith
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well it definitely is annoying

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imagine having to catch-up

charred mango
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i already disrespect my own time idm if blizzard does it for me

dense steeple
digital berry
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That’s kind of like how 99% of mmorpgs work

normal pilot
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they've learned ppl don't respect their own time given ppl still engage in it so

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you can't expect them to respect what you don't

royal zenith
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it's only disrepectful if you dont actually want to spend time on it

normal pilot
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unless you just signed up you know exactly what you're gonna get from the game

digital berry
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I guess if it was time gated it would be a hell of a blow to people who use mh oh or people who swap trinks

dense steeple
royal zenith
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means to an end

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you signed up for this wanting to be a CE/HOF raider...

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you may not like it...

digital berry
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Tbh having a reason to play more of the game is a positive in my book, after filling vault I have no incentive to actually play, since pugging 14+ keys is just a clown fiesta

royal zenith
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It's kinda artificial though

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if the game was actually good, you'd be playing either way

digital berry
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Yeah. Tbh if I wanted an mmo that has infinite repeatable farmable content I’d play Albion or maplestry or some shit

royal zenith
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(not my screenshot)

normal pilot
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Quick before its nerfed

dense steeple
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from what

royal zenith
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he doesnt read, just like arctic

dense steeple
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i figured you knew who posted it

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and could inquire

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as i do not have a direct line of communication to the man himself

royal zenith
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it's from RLE discord

dense steeple
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is that supposed to mean you cant ask

digital berry
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Deux being difficult as usual

royal zenith
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no I was jesting a bit

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thought you meant the actual drops

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Im sorry soma

dense steeple
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im just trying to find out what condiment content i can spam efficiently for this

craggy sonnet
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photoshopped

royal zenith
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I dont think there's anything efficient if Im honest

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just do normal raid to unlock it

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clear HC raid, if you want more... do M+ / Bountiful delves w.e.

craggy sonnet
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but this confirms you can infinite farm, surely?

royal zenith
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yesn't?

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maybbeee??

digital berry
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Wonder if lfr drops them

dense steeple
craggy sonnet
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well, the thing deux posted is basically that, yeah?=

digital berry
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7 frags or completed hammers ?

royal zenith
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1 voidcore = 5 shards

dense steeple
digital berry
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Idek what trials are

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Haven’t engaged with that content

royal zenith
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yeah wtf are ritual sites

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LMAO

dense steeple
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????

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weve had them for 4 weeks now

royal zenith
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exactly

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what are they icant

dense steeple
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you zone in

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blast some shit

royal zenith
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is it the

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abundance?

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shit

blazing onyx
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Hello chimkins

dense steeple
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have we only had that for 4 weeks

blazing onyx
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I come to you

dense steeple
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its the purple icon on your map

blazing onyx
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With a question

dense steeple
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its in ZA

blazing onyx
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Im in enemy territory here

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But

royal zenith
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we only sell answers for 100dollar each

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feral privilege

blazing onyx
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Can anyone tell me if the voidcores can be used on an offhand

royal zenith
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supposedly you could upgrade a shield

blazing onyx
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Anyone have confirmation

royal zenith
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but dont take my word for that

dense steeple
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how would we know

blazing onyx
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Asking for a guildee

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Cuz u use offhands dont you

dense steeple
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sometimes

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assume yes

blazing onyx
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Well

dense steeple
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its still too new

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no ones upgraded shit

blazing onyx
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Guildy crashing out about it

royal zenith
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why would you upgrade an offhand

dense steeple
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were trying to learn where to even farm these things

royal zenith
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and why are they stressed about it rn

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just wait?

dense steeple
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offhands are not in our eyesight right now

lofty depot
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U can use on shield so yes

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2h takes 1

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But ye duel wielders need to farm more

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Get mad

craggy sonnet
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ofc

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imagine them unifying how they handle 2h vs 1h

fickle pier
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Just make 2h cost twice as much to upgrade

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And fuck fury i guess kekw

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They are stupidly inconsistent for no reason. 2h costs double sparks, but same crests.

normal pilot
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it's cuz it's an item, and not an upgrade UI

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can't really do some kind of click two item then third to apply

craggy sonnet
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they made that choice tho

blazing onyx
normal pilot
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ya they prolly just ran out of time to make a UI

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and/or they wanted to go with the feeling of upgrading in the field and not having to goto an npc

snow vessel
lofty depot
craggy sonnet
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im hammering my weapon on the field instead of at the hammer i built over the past weeks?

normal pilot
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sure who knows what the reward designer thought

royal zenith
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It doesn't really matter if you confirm or nah, or? If you want to use it on shield just click apply

lucid olive
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but can you use the hammer to upgrade a mace

normal pilot
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and not needing to make a UI is prolly a positive

lucid olive
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a mace is also a hammer

royal zenith
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if it doesn't work or you're scared, farm a 2h

craggy sonnet
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surely could have just built it into the crest upgrade ui. but yeah idc

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just inconsistency thats annoying

fair mist
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Nothing more annoying than playing balance in raid and feral in keys and now I have to upgrade only 1 weapon.

lofty depot
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Play balance in both or

royal zenith
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wdym 'have to'

lofty depot
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And u can upgrade many weapons

rough marten
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can u only get 5 this week

lofty depot
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That's not true

rough marten
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havn't gotten any since upgrading first item

royal zenith
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already seen more than 5 shards drop

lofty depot
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Skrill issue

royal zenith
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from various sources

craggy sonnet
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photoshop gg

royal zenith
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nah saw it live on zorthas his stream

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ACKSHUALLYYY

craggy sonnet
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overlay

royal zenith
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from T1 rituals

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😭

normal pilot
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i hope there's a hidden blp cap like legion legendaries

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that would be hilarious

rough marten
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yall farming t1 8 challenge or 0

lofty depot
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2s seems fastest

candid fox
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Normal voidspire gave me 4... i now have 6 in total... it wont let me upgrade my crafted staff atm tho

lucid olive
royal zenith
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I speak truths

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and maybes

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never no's

craggy sonnet
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do you need to recraft with it or what?

candid fox
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Nope, checked and there is no option for it as a reagent.

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disabled all addons and no bueno

lucid olive
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what if you click the item and apply it like an enchant

craggy sonnet
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hm

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the tooltip indicates assistance from decimus?

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maybe you actually gotta be there?

candid fox
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thats what i did. dialogue box pops up saying are you sure, i click yes.. it appears to start some animation and then just stops immediately

craggy sonnet
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lovely

royal zenith
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rip

normal pilot
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maybe it fucked up and you didn't get flagged correctly

craggy sonnet
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didnt expect anything else

royal zenith
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NA beta testing whats new...

craggy sonnet
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imagine any system working day 1

normal pilot
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unlukcy if the voidcore wasn't instant you could test by trying on another item

candid fox
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it does seem to want to channel... i thought about it... i only need four more shards for another core, so imma try grinding that out quick

normal pilot
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do you get any error messages at all?

royal zenith
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seems other people in 🍅 's chat also can't upgrade crafted items

candid fox
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nope

normal pilot
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oh you can't even make the core?

candid fox
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i made the core fine

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just dont want to send it on a trinket without having two

normal pilot
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maybe the script fucks up when checking if crafted weapons are fully upgraded

candid fox
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ill report back after i finish lfr.

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normal seems to be a quick farm for the shards tho

royal zenith
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I think 'regular' items will work fine but yea

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crafted different type of gear

craggy sonnet
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is it specifically crafted or are they all trying on 2h

normal pilot
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what's base crafted gear item level, unupgraded?

royal zenith
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some do work

craggy sonnet
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so maybe it is 2h

royal zenith
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so it's kinda all over the place

digital berry
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Who would ever try and use it on anything but weapon

craggy sonnet
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requiring 2

royal zenith
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I dunno, many reasons I can think of

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maybe you are narrow-minded??

normal pilot
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i'm sure plenty of ppl don't realize weapon is highest b udget item

digital berry
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Bffr

candid fox
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maybe need 2 for staff?

craggy sonnet
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have we seen anyone with a 2h non crafted that was able to upgrade

normal pilot
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they see some trinket on 'bis' list and think that's more important

royal zenith
digital berry
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Jk

craggy sonnet
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emni talking to yourself?

digital berry
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I misread smth

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Disregard me as you always do

craggy sonnet
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hmmm

royal zenith
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🥀

digital berry
drifting nova
digital berry
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Heroic weapon week 65

drifting nova
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I skipped heroic entirely

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(only have a one hand)

tranquil vault
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thinking if i should upgrade with dawnlight flux or keep the item like this on the left.

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simming doesnt make any difference

lofty depot
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Well u have like infinite cata charges but if it's not an upgrade why bother?

tranquil vault
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it's mythic 🙂

lofty depot
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So what

normal pilot
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use the one with speed, zoom zoom

tranquil vault
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so i should upgrade it with the dawnligt flux?

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yes but should i keep it as it is or upgrade with flux

lofty depot
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.... It doesn't "upgrade it"

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It changes the stats. And as stated "simming doesn't make a difference"

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Soooooooooo

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Do what u want

tranquil vault
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  • does a dance*
craggy sonnet
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It legit has basically same stats as well, no?

tranquil vault
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almost yes 🙂

royal zenith
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for sure 20 haste will impact anything

lofty depot
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WRX owner, so haste is like adding stickers to his car

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+0.5 mph

tranquil vault
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oh for sure. stickers make it go fast 🙂

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but that is not needed for a WRX as it just goes fast 😉

dense steeple
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I saw a guy with rgbs on his f150 wheels

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He was fast af

void jacinth
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doesnt increase speed

dense steeple
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I was very wet

void jacinth
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and the speed limit is the same for fast cars

dense steeple
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Rgb makes everything faster idiot

jovial sundial
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Red means it goes faster

void jacinth
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really good boy

dense steeple
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Thats why my pc is lit up brighter than the beacons of gondor

normal pilot
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but did he have oled hubcaps

dense steeple
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No

void jacinth
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i disconnected mine

dense steeple
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He couldve been faster

normal pilot
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ya smh

dense steeple
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I cant disconnect mine ludd

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The pc will stop working

void jacinth
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wat

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cable for spinny is also cable for lighty?

dense steeple
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All cable is also light

void jacinth
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all my fans are just transplants from the gaming rigs i had from age 13-20

dense steeple
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Only missing a strimmer

void jacinth
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there is a screen on your cpu cooler, this is late state capitalism, theres a bubble

modern fog
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anyone know which is better to use void upgrade on?

dense steeple
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I can in fact play wow on it

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In 1080p

normal pilot
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oh you only have 1 oled

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you need oledn on your gpu

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  • oled fans
void jacinth
normal pilot
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missing so much speed

dense steeple
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The screen fans are a scam

normal pilot
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they make so fast you don't even know

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hm do they have gpu supports with screen

dense steeple
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I thinkvso

normal pilot
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ok ya they do, only $40 on aliexpress

fair pasture
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where does offhand sit compared to other items in stat budget

lucid olive
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main hand + offhand = two-hand

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if they're all 3 same ilvl

sage maple
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personally i think it makes sense bc we can upgrade our trinkets faster etc, but would appreciate validation

dense steeple
lucid olive
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Ascendant Voidcores

The new upgrade items are out, and it seems you are able to continously farm them which means your upgrades are not limited by week. Finishing the quest from Decimus grants you 1 Ascendant Voidshard, you need 5 of these to finish an upgrade item.

This is not meant as a gearing guide since your priorities can vary from someone else, but here are some things to keep in mind:

  • Weapons are very good and overall your first upgrade. Whether you send your upgrade on a Crafted weapon instantly, or hoard up some more Ascendant Voidshards while using your bonus rolls for a myth track weapon is up to you. There are merits to both.

  • As for which trinket to upgrade first; just sim your character. If you have Vaelgor + Gaze/Ribbon at maxed item level the choice is very close to the point where it doesn't really matter. I would still probably just upgrade Vaelgor since on-use trinkets are cooler.

lucid olive
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flip a coin

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2x hunt is also good but that's cringe af

normal pilot
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but i get higher sim with a versatility gem are pins lying

lofty depot
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Hunt bad

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Give vers on hard boss

lucid olive
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did you sim the vers buff

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when i did that shit was a sidegrade anyway lmfao

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but arcanoweave give stat to teammates so good for prog

lofty depot
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Arcano gives unforseen gains

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Has to be bis

grim anvil
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hello beautiful balance lore masters
i have the champion vaelgor's and the hero gaze
this myth feather is simming slightly better so i'm wondering if i should believe on it

lofty depot
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Show sim

grim anvil
lofty depot
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.....

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1 that doesn't mean it's better

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2 link the sim

grim anvil
drifting nova
lofty depot
grim anvil
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to sim for raid just change the talents for the raid ones or do i need to pick something else

lofty depot
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Typically it's switching to keeper and then depends on the fight for what talents

grim anvil
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i'm simming with keeper rn

dense steeple
lofty depot
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But its not like a 20 ilvl trinket won't be terrible worse

grim anvil
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thanks for the help!!!!

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the feather sims way down now

shadow willow
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Do you think if I voidforge two hero trinkets I'll get the myth crest skip?

lofty depot
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Should

shadow willow
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Assuming this shit is infinite farmable

lofty depot
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Or u'll get some ilvl of it

shadow willow
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That's nice

dense steeple
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should i do vaelgor or gaze first? chatting

dull dust
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vael

dense steeple
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you promise?

dull dust
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si

dense steeple
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nice fuckin bait

lofty depot
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Show sim

frank osprey
lofty depot
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As an overview ur playing meteor storm and meteorites and the adds live for 2 seconds, isn't really worth it

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Didn't dot

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Pressed starfire in solar eclipse

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Should pot on incarn not eclipse pre

lucid olive
#

i suppose how much mast you have will affect it

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less mast = higher vaelgor value

dull dust
lofty depot
#

Sent cosmos on surge

lucid olive
#

but none of it rly matters

dull dust
#

just sim 40sec obly

normal pilot
#

clearly low vaelgor ppl aren't properly queueing trinket to not munch solar bolt

dull dust
#

obly

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only

frank osprey
jolly delta
#

we've been getting a timegated 1% dps upgrade per week for a month now
people complain about the fact that a 2% is timegated

lofty depot
#

So ur just losing chances on more spenders

frank osprey
#

ok, makes sense

lofty depot
#

If assume ur full asp here, u should be spending asp before casting that wrath

lofty depot
#

Ur sending ur incarn on the tree gcd

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And u should be sending it on the surge gcd

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It looks like ur pooling enough for eclipses but on mobile can't really tell

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Bunch of cancels

ionic oak
lofty depot
amber wraith
#

Is there an easy way to make the sim use only vers for hunt? trying to sim for lura

vital hound
#

good morning gangsters

lofty depot
amber wraith
#

ty 🐐

lofty depot
clever heart
#

I don’t think I’ve felt this weak as Balance-in m+ since BFA season 4. 😳

lofty depot
#

Skrill issue

frank osprey
dense steeple
ionic oak
#

Confirmed

unkempt ore
#

thats my play

wheat gate
#

Hey all, vault question.
I have hero shoulders and hero omission of light, choice of mythic upgrades for those in vault. Guild is progressing mythic dragons. My trinkets are hero ribbon and mythic gaze. How would you proceed?

  1. Take omission, bonus roll heroic dragons for stare. Hope for shoulders off saladhar.
  2. take shoulders, bonus roll nxp for ring combo, hope for stare.
lofty depot
#

Depends if u guys are extending or rekilling dragons after

wheat gate
#

I believe reclears

lofty depot
#

How many bonus rolls have u used and where

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U should've had nxp rings already presumbly

wheat gate
#

Ive used them all. Got my mythic gaze first one. Nexus and got nothing useful. Spire and got nothing useful. Im a multi spec druid.

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I have omission light. Never got void drop

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Farming nxp for heroic could be doable

lofty depot
#

I mean u just do it

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What

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But they're also the best rings and high chance to drop

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And weapon drop

wheat gate
#

I crafted weapon

lofty depot
#

Takes 3 weeks

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Yea it's week 500

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U have crests and every or most slot mythic

wheat gate
#

Missing 5 slots mythic. 4 crafted 285s

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5 are hero. 282 ilevel

lofty depot
#

Yea ur not losing anything by doing it

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But mostly was for rings

wheat gate
#

So your suggesting roll for rings hope for gaze? What about the vault choice?

lofty depot
#

Suppose u send rerolls and then make a decision

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Well u don't know ur vault choice until u reroll

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If u get the other ring u can stop rerolling

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If u get the light ring from rerolls u take socket or shoulders if u really want

wheat gate
#

Hmm leaving my vault stinks for not getting my key but I get your logic.

lofty depot
#

Why do u need a key, go queue

quaint wave
#

Balance keys Despair

wheat gate
#

☝🏼

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Doing 16 17s hard as bala without your own key

lofty depot
#

Why r we slamming 16s for rerolls

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Not being very time efficient

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U need to farm your cores as well

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Better hurry up you're behind

dull dust
quaint wave
#

Not me having not even done the bonus roll quest...

dull dust
#

its jover

quaint wave
#

Yeah I mean kinda, turbo boost historically always saps my will like no other

drifting nova
#

VerySadCat didnt do a key this week its so over

quaint wave
#

Admittedly bonus rolls are cooler than previous iterations

drifting nova
#

...are they?

quaint wave
#

For me yeah

exotic perch
#

bonus rolls are not bad ye but the dinar was better

vital hound
#

dinar is private server shit

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no thanks

drifting nova
#

rolls should exist

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AND dinar

tawny nest
quaint wave
#

I like that it makes gearing alts very

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Easy?

drifting nova
#

ok but it makes gearing easy

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because gearing IS cooked

quaint wave
#

Also like that you can get 3x per week if your vault is dog

drifting nova
#

like myth should be like 18s minimum

quaint wave
#

Mid take

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But wcyd

drifting nova
#

I wouldnt even get to 18s

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but it being 10 is way too low

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even when the season is ..harder

tawny nest
#

Feels nice for gearing alts quickly but damn the gear progression path got destroyed lol

copper osprey
#

Does anyone know if you unlock the ascended shards on your one character are you able to collect them on another as well?

drifting nova
#

hero gear got obliterated

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champ only existed the first week

quaint wave
#

What gear progression, vault waiting room simulation?

drifting nova
#

ideally no

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I'm all for deleting the vault

#

weeklygating is bad for the game

wheat gate
#

Im going from resto to boomy. Raid team i found needs boomy so I want the reps

quaint wave
#

Vault already did to heroic raid what rerolls do

drifting nova
#

..it really didnt tho

#

now it's more pronounced you can keep your eyes closed and do 10s this season

#

but still

quaint wave
#

And hero gear Farm from keys fragged out heroic raid years ago

drifting nova
#

yeah heroic raid has been cooked for like 3xpacs now gear wise

#

but hero track gear is what I said

#

rotates around to m+ rewards too much loot

quaint wave
#

Ah ye my bad

#

I conflated the two

drifting nova
#

and myth being 10 is way too low

#

even in the "hard" tww season

quaint wave
#

Idk about that 1 this is turbo boost my guy

drifting nova
#

something something key squish never worked

quaint wave
#

Its meant to ease gearing surely

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Key squish worked fine sl 20s were roughly 10-12 difficulty in my memory

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Maybe I'm cooked tho

drifting nova
#

I took the -10 with a massive grain of salt

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when it felt closer to like -5

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15*

somber skiff
#

i dont relly understand the opener for balance druid

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i looked on wowhead and it just shows this convulded opener that appears to be a single target opener ?

#

im just confused

ruby badger
#

Whats convoluted about it

somber skiff
#

thats the aoe opener?

#

sorry i didnt specify

dense steeple
#

now what

somber skiff
#

im looking for the multi target opener

ruby badger
#

Just press these buttons

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If you want it conceptually

somber skiff
#

how come i came up with this ?

lofty depot
#

what makes that convoluted

ruby badger
#

Build AP
Dot anything that'll live for a while with moonfire
Sunfire when mobs group
Fury of Elune
Incarn

somber skiff
#

i just dont understand it

lofty depot
#

go read the guide and u might

somber skiff
#

i did and i still am confused

#

like

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why doi we use star surge

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in a aoe opener?

#

hasent that alway sbeen a single tarteg ability ?

ruby badger
lofty depot
#

theres not a surge in that opener

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and u wouldnt

somber skiff
#

why is there starsurge in that ?

ruby badger
somber skiff
#

oh

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what does 3x at -4s mean ?

craggy sonnet
#

it prepull stuff

ruby badger
#

3 wraths 4 seconds before pull timer

craggy sonnet
#

doesnt matter

ruby badger
#

replace wrath with starfire if you plan on hitting multiple mobs at once

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and lunar eclipse instead of solar

lofty depot
#

well thats the opener so ur wrathing because it has travel time

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but thats not exactly what u do for random stuff in m+

somber skiff
#

how do i choose between lunar and solar eclipse?

craggy sonnet
#

sundered firmament cycling woop woop

lofty depot
#

if ur playing ec u dont

craggy sonnet
#

you dont as elunes chosen

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solar eclipse is removed

lofty depot
#

if ur playing keeper its based on target count and in most cases in say raid ur just never solely in lunar

somber skiff
#

ohhh okay

ruby badger
#

just do this as EC in m+ for an "opener"

somber skiff
#

what that second wrath in the opener ? between the starfall and the sunfire ?

#

also what is this ? when im specced into m+ i dont appear to have this ...

craggy sonnet
#

arent there tooltips if you hover over these?

somber skiff
#

tooltips ?

craggy sonnet
#

@lucid olive the kotg / ec switch on the rotation page does not work for the opener

lofty depot
#

the purple icon

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on the wrath

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put ur mouse cursor on it

somber skiff
#

ohhh ok

craggy sonnet
#

but this is gonna be confusing if you play EC

#

it doesnt switch

#

properly

somber skiff
#

whoa whoa wtf incarn has two charges ? since when ?

craggy sonnet
#

since talent early tww

lofty depot
#

i dont think u read the guide let alone ur talents

somber skiff
#

so do i just use them back to back ?

lofty depot
#

no

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please read the guide

somber skiff
#

like

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the wowhead one ?

lofty depot
#

like any of them

#

feel free to read the pin as well

jolly delta
#

tomorrow:

#

it's time to prog vanguard on my 270 druid

#

(he's gonna be higher than 270 I promise)

dull dust
jolly delta
#

I also haven't farmed any

dull dust
#

bros gunna pretend hes a chicken

#

bit really hes a bear

jolly delta
#

I sim for 90k it's fine......

dull dust
#

nog ideal

jolly delta
dull dust
#

what is that emote

jolly delta
#

secret server wth

#

at least it's gonna be EC so I'll have two buttons to press

dull dust
#

u didnt make the cut vinter unlucky

jolly delta
#

they clearly haven't seen my parses yet

#

only explanation

craggy sonnet
#

have you?

jolly delta
#

have I what

craggy sonnet
#

seen your parses

jolly delta
#

yes I have what is this question

craggy sonnet
#

confident is good

dull dust
jolly delta
#

just don't look at salhadar

plucky valley
#

Where is he

lucid olive
#

nvm

#

prob not gonna change it until 12.1

inner pilot
#

last season there was a complicated opener. what is the opener this season? i am trying to boomkin and to say i am struggling is an understatment

lucid olive
#

read compendium linked in pinned messages and channel description!

dense steeple
#

staggies win again xd

inner pilot
#

i dont see the opener listed only a priority of buttons/ right now i am {potion} @ 3 secs, wrath, sunfire, moonfire, force of nature, eclipse, starsurge untl empty, then convoke, then wrath & eclipse again

lofty depot
#

its a drop down

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that says "Opener"

inner pilot
#

thank you i see it

lofty depot
#

na in shambles after farming rituals all day

lucid olive
#

almost like i called it

dense steeple
#

i mean

#

i knew it would happen

lucid olive
#

everyone did

dense steeple
#

but i wanted the ilvl for raid tonight

lofty depot
#

i was busy so i didnt have time

#

rekt

wheat gate
#

@lofty depot so i rerolled NXP and did not get rings. thinking i should just hold my vault. might even roll it into next week lol

craggy sonnet
wheat gate
#

whats the nilhammer play? Gaze or Weapon?

lucid olive
#

pins

dense steeple
#

pins arent weapons or gazes

lofty depot
lucid olive
craggy sonnet
lucid olive
#

my 3rd cousin twice removed got a new hamster so i couldn't do any gaming all day

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

eventually u get all the rings shrug

lofty depot
#

theyre 20 and 21

#

idiots smh

dense steeple
lucid olive
dense steeple
#

theyre not miy kids

#

so it doesnt matter

lucid olive
#

word

dense steeple
#

but i was 17

inner pilot
#

LOL gray parse for dps but 98 and 99 for healing... all i did was wildgrowth twice and frenzy regen twice..

orchid fox
#

mythic 2h BiS is corespark multitool?

#

to then craft 2 armor pieces?

lofty depot
#

theres a few that are within reason

#

1h + oh is usualyl there aswell

outer oasis
#

We recognize that the build in question avoids the Apex talent. With this tuning, we’re choosing to not break the Elune’s Chosen build or require the Apex talent. We have further plans to update the Guardian Apex Talent in a future patch to give us more flexibility with it and alleviate some of the current pain points for Druids. Does it mean for druids? Not only bear?

normal pilot
#

no it's just for bears

drifting nova
#

you expect chatgpt to know the difference?

outer oasis
#

My boomie performs worse than before…even 11.2. I got no enough eclipse to use when I push high keys…

drifting nova
#

yes, eclipse bad

outer oasis
#

Really pain points

normal pilot
#

wdym 'enough eclipse' that doesn't make sense

#

that's like saying there's not enough incarn

#

it's a cd, not maintenance

drifting nova
#

there isnt enough incarn

#

and there also isnt enough eclipse

#

take us back to it being a passive proc

fair mist
#

God imagine the luck of rolling 3 times in nexus and getting both rings + core spark sheeeesh

dense steeple
#

this any good?

#

@lofty depot 🙂

fair pasture
heady hedge
#

bonus rolled chimaerus 4 weeks in a row and today bonus rolled a dupe from week 1

#

where am i ending it

fair pasture
#

did u change specs or smth

heady hedge
#

no blizzard did not retroactively count bonus rolled items from week 1

#

or rather, they may or may not count

rare shoal
#

@dull dust is this optimal

digital berry
#

crazy that we are in week 65 and still myth crests have a cap

lofty depot
delicate perch
#

It’s like week 2 for u

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

surely

digital berry
#

I got so much shit to upgrade

delicate perch
sour rampart
wide comet
#

just a short question guys?
when you have mainhand and offhand are you crafting the 298 on the mainhand or craft the 285 staff and use it there ?

lofty depot
#

i mean u could sim it

#

but presumably ur using the same shit ur using currenytly

restive wasp
#

Why do a bunch of random top M+ logs i look at have like one boss where the player is spamming Wrath? Seems to be different bosses, but 80% of the top logs I check have some random Wrath damage boss..? What's up with that? I though Wrath for Elunes Chosen was banned?

lofty depot
#

its not banned

#

u wrath outside of elcipse on st

dull dust
sour rampart
dull dust
fair pasture
#

Me 2

sour rampart
#

Flamewarder in Rise of Honor

fair pasture
#

That's a cool name

#

Ur char not the guild name THEY SPELLED HONOUR WRONG

#

Smdh america

#

I think I was on Malygos

lucid olive
livid jay
#

the more you know the less you know

livid jay
fair pasture
#

Is rise of honor a Sanderson book, or he's American so he writes honor a lot

restive wasp
fair pasture
#

Almost everyone misses that the first time

lofty depot
#

The guides say wrath outside of eclipse on st

fair pasture
#

But it does say to do so it's just kindof confusing the first time parsing the priority thing

restive wasp
fair pasture
lofty depot
#

That's not the guide.

restive wasp
#

Literally ctrl+f Wrath on that page has one result in the into about Eclipse.

lofty depot
#

Wowhead is for non log readers

lofty depot
restive wasp
lofty depot
#

Yea so is the other one

#

Like walking it dicks sporting goods and asking for ohtanis bat

fair pasture
#

Of all the analogies

livid jay
lofty depot
#

That's a good one no

fair pasture
#

It's good

lofty depot
#

Mmhm mmhm

fair pasture
#

I am a baseball enjoyer

lofty depot
#

Well I was gonna use a car analogy and Walmart but shrug wcyd

fair pasture
fair pasture
#

That's too many things

lofty depot
#

Well the line would've been taking ur Ferrari to Walmart for an oil change...

livid jay
fair pasture
#

Meh

#

Baseball cooler

#

But I like the effort

lofty depot
#

Mmhm mhmm

livid jay
#

wtf is walmart

lofty depot
#

Wtf is honour

#

It's honor

fair pasture
#

I only learned how to clean all the bugs and detritus out of my feathers the other day

#

So between that and baseball I don't have room for much other info

lofty depot
#

It's not even baseball season yet

fair pasture
lofty depot
#

We're still in hockey

fair pasture
#

What yes it is

#

Hockey sucks

lofty depot
#

Fuck iff

fair pasture
#

Baseball season is like a month in

livid jay
lofty depot
#

Baseball starts when super regionals for cws start

fair pasture
#

I get so annoyed Armored Core doesn't have a U in it

lofty depot
#

MLB doesn't start til august

fair pasture
#

Bo bichette sad he left jays

#

But also all our pitchers are injured

#

Someone need to turn on guild repairs for our bull pen

lofty depot
#

Got college softball then got cws... Then h then brain off til august

fair pasture
#

That's too many things

lofty depot
#

No

fair pasture
#

I'm glad u have so many things tho

lofty depot
#

College ball is peak

fair pasture
#

I only like baseball

lofty depot
#

Actually playing the game

fair pasture
#

I played for three years and then Diablo 2 came out

#

And I stopped going

livid jay
#

arctic u hyped for hockey worlds yet

lofty depot
#

Kids make mistakes, small ball, atmosphere

fair pasture
#

I do get kind of annoyed that like

lofty depot
#

That's like next week or so ethj g

fair pasture
#

If it's not a grounder or home run

lofty depot
#

Or this week?

fair pasture
#

That shit is caught

#

Most of the time

lofty depot
#

Idk need vgk to stop playing. Sround

lofty depot
#

Cuz it's not all pop flys and home runs

fair pasture
#

Idea for a new class: you're like a void octopus and you squirt goo on people and have a floating eye all as your pet and you can make it shoot lasers like cthun but also you're not a shadow priest

fair pasture
#

I used to like stay completely still when I was at bat and thought itd be a ball

#

No adjusting my stance or like waving the bat a bit as you see ppl do

#

And then my team started calling me The Statue

lofty depot
#

I used to foul shit off on purpose to see more pitches

#

First at bat and pitcher is 10 pitches in

fair pasture
#

TIRE EM OUT

lofty depot
#

Then he hits me cuz he angy

fair pasture
#

I don't think I was at the level of purposely fouling a ball or not I just had a feel for ball or I could hit it

#

And I could run fast

#

But wasn't good at anything else

lofty depot
#

U just swing late and pop it out of play

fair pasture
#

Angy

#

^ pitcher

#

GD the ms paint eyebrows look too natural

drifting nova
#

where fire?

fair pasture
#

I need to highlight them

fair pasture
fair pasture
drifting nova
inland jetty
#

is 2x arcnoweave bis or 1x hunt 1x arcnoweave?

#

very confused with what i wanna upgrade with these cores, is the ideal set up 298 main/offhand 295 crafted main/offhand w hunt?

rain jetty
#

Crafting another item for 80 crest is just not worth it

#

But bis is 1hand main and crafted off hand with hunt

#

and then upgrading off hand to 295, 1h 298

austere sparrow
#

What ilvl do heroic track item get with the upgrade?

#

298 aswell or lower?

tardy hare
#

What do you think?

wise hare
#

yea let me just hyper boost heroic track to 298 real quick

bold urchin
#

Yo, can EU get 100% shard drop rates from m+ 10 and up already

wise hare
#

dont think so

sudden flame
#

genuinelly could not tell you, they posted on the 13th of may that it will go live tomorrow on the 13th, but it already is the 13th so shrugeg

loud kettle
#

silly silly, eu doesnt matter

sudden flame
#

this is what happens when you copy and paste the same thign you posted on NA to EU

loud kettle
#

fat chud Americans smh

royal zenith
#

but NA is center of the world no???

wise hare
sudden flame
#

yes copy and pasted from the NA forum

scenic shard
#

I wonder if its worth to upgrade HC trinkets to 285 with voidcores so i can save some M crests, it should work like this, right?

wise hare
#

who knows probably?

#

go test it

snow elm
#

whats the chances of boomie getting buffed for m+ before nxt patch

undone plinth
#

At least let’s buff the armor or hp , in 19’s even with barskin the bosses abilities are hitting like 80% of the hp

#

Like loosing every 10-15seconds 2GCDS to go to bear form to tank the ability wtf

royal zenith
#

yeah you will not be getting buffs

#

gl

undone plinth
#

Even so …… 3:30 approx per boss fights in 18-19s is a lot of los dps for that shiet ( gcds - os healing myself )

#

Maybe premades are a thing 😞

livid jay
#

idk i never pushed beyond the point where every couple seconds u take hits that turn m+ into a survival fight more than a dps pump fight

#

not fun anymore at that point for me

royal zenith
#

our defensives haven't changed in a while, and it's always been a non-issue for highest keys

#

you just make it work

#

preferably you don't lose damage using them (bearform) but yeah

#

blizzard sees it differently

sudden flame
#

barkskin is omega op these days

livid jay
#

hotw bearform is crazy tbh

#

but cringe

sudden flame
#

ngl i like never use it but tbf i play feral and therefore have survival instincts catpointingandlaughingemoji

pallid bay
sudden flame
#

but barskin is really good

pallid bay
#

playing from the bench

#

bro popping SI in silvermoon

sudden flame
#

30% dr 30% hp absorb and 20% healing recieved

pallid bay
#

is matted fur 30%

#

or what

sudden flame
pallid bay
#

sorry..

sudden flame
#

idk what it is specifically

pallid bay
#

i pray fearl gets a rework every day

sudden flame
#

but its a decent amount of your health

#

109k health abosrb for me and i have like 470 total

pallid bay
#

basege

calm island
#

Is it possible to start getting ascended voidcores on alts before finishing one on main?

round creek
#

Oi I miss so much your wa. I'm here just to say that

sudden flame
#

whats that like 24%?

#

pretty good

royal zenith
#

isnt SI like a 2min cd

#

3 min even??

sudden flame
#

3

royal zenith
ruby badger