balance

[lofty depot]

Left Bumper

[craggy sonnet]

arctic is gonna pry the import code from you anyways

[lofty depot]

I don't pry

Blud just sends me shit

[lucid olive]

yeah i mean, Nintendo calls it LZ and RZ i think

[lofty depot]

Badass honestly

[proven rapids]

LB, or L1 depending on what controller you're using.

[lofty depot]

L1 is loser 1

[lucid olive]

oh other way around, its ZL and ZR

[sour rampart]

arctic is loser 1

[lucid olive]

and the bumber buttons are just L and R

[proven rapids]

The Steam Deck calls it L1 and R1

So that's what I call em

[lucid olive]

cringè

[lofty depot]

Ur name starts with L, I don't even have to make the letter joke

[proven rapids]

That's why I don't have enough buttons to play balance druid 😞 can't fit them all on my main hot bar so wrath sits behind the left trigger, never to be used

(it's also where typhoon, wild charge, and trees live along with roots and Sunbeam)

[sour rampart]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/821473988969627688/1012417778793328640/t-1.gif

[proven rapids]

I wish I had screenshots of UI

Not a druid but I use the same UI setup for my druid

[lucid olive]

i don't hate it

[proven rapids]

It's really slick in practice

[lucid olive]

imagine the performance loss in some addons can get rough on steam deck

[proven rapids]

Outside of Silvermoon city the performance is stellar

Rarely notice any dips

[lucid olive]

like if you slap something like EllesmereUI on there i mean

full UI overhaul addons

[proven rapids]

Oh, I just use ConsolePort and a couple smaller addons but otherwise I'm mostly content with stock

ConsolePort is the big one but honestly. Blizzard needs to make the features on this native already

[lucid olive]

i agree there should be baseline support for controller

i think most people agree with that

[normal pilot]

just wait until 13.0 xbox port

[lucid olive]

but if they add it then the very loud part of the playerbase that hates the thought of console are gonna riot

and if they push it to console and then the patch after has a ton of bugs

you already know what people are gonna be saying

[normal pilot]

i don't think playerbase 'riot' matters

[lucid olive]

even if that patch would've had bugs anyway

[proven rapids]

The game has had native controller support since Shadowlands

Which is great

[normal pilot]

the ppl complaining don't matter anyways, even wit hteh recent bitching about 12.0.5

12.0.5 isn't any worse than any other patch for the past decade

[lofty depot]

I assume this is how the devs play anyway

[proven rapids]

Extremely good for accessibility

[normal pilot]

lots of ppl farming clicks but the game's still the same quality it's always been

[proven rapids]

I also like using a joystick for movement cuz I can seamlessly shift between walking and running

[lucid olive]

yeah I don't think Blizzard would care about the complainers either

but having to read the complaints in the community

[proven rapids]

If there was zero testing on the steam deck that'd probably be a bad thing

[lucid olive]

well do you think Blizzard are the ones who do testing on steam deck

or do you think Valve is

[proven rapids]

It's not on steam so probably not them

[lofty depot]

Curious we think blizzard tests things

[proven rapids]

I imagine they do very minimal baseline testing at the most

Because battle net recognizes that I'm on a handheld and tells me that it won't be the optimal experience

[craggy sonnet]

Uh. Why would blizzard test steam deck?

[proven rapids]

Because people play on it?

[lofty depot]

"people"

[craggy sonnet]

Doesn't mean they provide any official support

[proven rapids]

It's not officially supported no

But they clearly do SOME testing on it, meaning more than zero

[lucid olive]

bnet is different than WoW in that regard, plenty of other games on bnet

imagine Diablo has considerable amount of handheld players

[proven rapids]

True.

[proven rapids]

That seems unnecessarily combative.

[lucid olive]

various CoD games as well probably

[proven rapids]

What's wrong with people playing the way they want to?

[lucid olive]

welcome to dreamgrove

[craggy sonnet]

That's what he does

[royal zenith]

you need to get steamdeck verified anyway

[proven rapids]

Ah, the missing step. Noted.

[proven rapids]

You don't, actually.

[royal zenith]

which is a lot of steps

for very little gain

[lofty depot]

U can play what u want, why do u think my opinion matters

[proven rapids]

I side loaded battle net and installed wow on it which is super simple

[royal zenith]

you're talking about support

[proven rapids]

Wow would never get steam deck verified anyways

[royal zenith]

to be able to play it on steamdeck, sure

will that make them extra money, probably not

[lucid olive]

I think Blizzard's extent of testing this is just covered by testing general low spec systems and it carries over to handheld

[lofty depot]

It's like when people run around with riot shields in cod... It's a way to play the game sure

[proven rapids]

More or less yeah. Basic low level testing to ensure nothing is catastrophically broken

That's my assumptions

Native Linux client when....

[proven rapids]

If they ever put wow on steam then yeah probably

With Overwatch and Diablo being on steam it's possible

Although highly unlikely

[lucid olive]

just wait for the new xbox to come out

gonna do weeklies from the couch

[royal zenith]

dunno, it's always investment versus outcome

[proven rapids]

Honestly there's no reason not to put wow on the new Xbox

[royal zenith]

although it does seem more and more players like steamdecks

[lucid olive]

well the new xbox is a PC

so it works same as steam deck

[proven rapids]

They've been a PC since 2014

[lucid olive]

not in the same way

[proven rapids]

Or whenever the Xbox One came out

Ever since the switch from PowerPC to X86

[lucid olive]

xbox one still confined by the OS no

[proven rapids]

Makes porting things from windows to Xbox trivial

[lucid olive]

can't run God of War on xbox one

can run God of War on the new one when it comes out

[proven rapids]

But I haven't owned a console since the Xbox 360 anyways so what do I know

The steam deck is my only gaming device 😞 my laptop runs wow fairly well but it is not a gaming laptop whatsoever

[dense steeple]

You want my opinion on wow?

Increase the sub price 1 dollar a month and never charge me for an expansion again

[lucid olive]

no

[proven rapids]

It's fun and I like it :)

[proven rapids]

That's 4 years of game time per expansion cost.
Which tbh should probably be about how often they're coming out anyways

An expansion every two years is.... something

[dense steeple]

With how shit each one is id rather just pay the extra total price than to drop 60+ every time for a shit product

[proven rapids]

Idk Midnight has been shaping up to be amazing for me

TWW was too

Also wasn't Midnight only $50?

[dense steeple]

How you liking ritual sites, void incursions, dundun, prey, decor duels, and more?

Also 40 currencies

[proven rapids]

Ritual sites are a lot of fun, so are void incursions. Prey isn't something I've majorly interacted with but what little I've done is fun!

[unborn perch]

I like afking in Silvermoon

[lofty depot]

at least its not 41 (no valorstones)

mmhm mmhm

[unborn perch]

peak gameplay

[proven rapids]

I haven't done the decor duels because they don't interest me

[dense steeple]

True

[dense steeple]

The point im moreover making is theyre adding too much inconsequential things that dont matter, but shoehorn you into doing anyway because shiny

[jovial hare]

tecchnically the sub price has been going down every year

[dense steeple]

Dont forget to spend 200 dollars on the new house stuff before its gone

Wouldnt want to miss the cute cherry tree that cost 10 bucks

[queen stag]

Rotation question: in m+ when we only have lunar eclipse, should I still be spamming starfire on bosses or pulls with only 1-2 mobs while lunar eclipse is active? Or should I just use wrath?

[lofty depot]

if ur playing ec ur using starfire regardless of mob count in lunar eclipse

[dense steeple]

Always starfire in eclipse

You only wrath in ST when OUTSIDE eclipse

[proven rapids]

You don't have to do any of those, though. They're all optional

[queen stag]

Slay that’s what I’ve been doing but wanted to double check, thank you!

[dense steeple]

You underestimate how many collectors there are in the game

[proven rapids]

I'd genuinely care more if it wasn't just cosmetics.

[proven rapids]

They can.....collect what they want to?

[dense steeple]

If collectors feel overwhelmed with useless content, why wouldn't anyone else

[proven rapids]

Nobody's forcing you to interact with all of these systems

I've almost entirely ignored housing, for instance.

[dense steeple]

Well housing is a power gain why would you ignore that

[proven rapids]

Is it?

When did they make that change?

[dense steeple]

Every week you can get crests for doing a housing quest. Since the start of midnight

[proven rapids]

Oh

[dense steeple]

Well maybe not the start

[proven rapids]

That barely counts

[dense steeple]

Idr

[proven rapids]

I still ignore them

I'm having a blast just doing whatever I want

[royal zenith]

some people enjoy being completionists though

[lucid olive]

modern retail must be a nightmare for those people

[dense steeple]

it is

[lucid olive]

too many rewards, pets and mounts

get with the times

[royal zenith]

yeah they explicitly complained about the cadence

[dense steeple]

between doing stupid dungeons to be able to raid effectively, and also having a real life. adding 40 useless currencies for 15 useless content events this xpac is miserable

[dense steeple]

which is funny because ive been saying that they need to slow down since SL

and everyone was like nono its not fast enough

[royal zenith]

yeah and I agree

[dense steeple]

and now we have this slop

[royal zenith]

can't underestimate how many people enjoy that part of this game

considering loads go and play old content just to collect stuff

[dense steeple]

i dont even have time to play old content

theres too much new content added at once all the time

i havent even touched abyss anglers

because i have to spam fucking ritual sites and void incursions forever

[unborn perch]

why do you have to spam them

[dense steeple]

have you done them?

[unborn perch]

no, I haven't interacted with it becuase nothing is telling me I must do them

[lucid olive]

read the context of the conversation

[dense steeple]

then youre not the target audience of the event

[proven rapids]

This just seems like you're trying to optimize the fun out of it.

[lucid olive]

i was told the other day that i can't complain about the drop in quality of content because i only raid and don't interact with casual content

[dense steeple]

this is about 20 hours of work and i'm not even fucking done.

[wise scroll]

guys i rolled from feral. what would u suggest to me? which items to change first? can u please guide me?

[dense steeple]

and thats full optimization

[lucid olive]

craft a weapon

or bonus roll one

[dense steeple]

get nxp ring set, get vaelgors

[wise scroll]

cant craft the staff because of no spark

[wise scroll]

even hero ones are worth?

[lucid olive]

scrap the loa worshiper band

that thing stank

[royal zenith]

don't have to defend yourself anyway soma

if people don't understand completionism just go next

[wise scroll]

even hero nxp ring worth?

[dense steeple]

i mean kinda, but you should just rip bonus rolls on em ig

[lucid olive]

yes

[dense steeple]

at least this is done until 12.0.7 WHEN THEY ADD MORE SHIT TO IT

[unborn perch]

nice staff in NXP also

good place for rolls

[royal zenith]

[wise scroll]

im using my rolls on nxp because myth staff and ring

[lucid olive]

also should get familiar with simming your character and just trying stuff

[wise scroll]

i swapped from feral. i think i'll more happy with balance for pve content, right?

[royal zenith]

it's your decision

so who knows?

[wise scroll]

is lura amulet worth? because mine is champion one but still using it. sim shows dps increase dunno

[lofty depot]

Go farm pit

Saladbar neck good too

But pit is farmable

[jolly delta]

I'm genuinely sorry for everyone invested in completionism like soma

[normal pilot]

sounds like a skill issue

real completionist can complete all collections

[royal zenith]

completionists are more hardcore players than people with 0.1% M+ title

with their wimpy resilient keys

[normal pilot]

ya it's hard

[jolly delta]

new patch drops out suddenly you have like 5 mediocre things to do, reshuffled with each other with very slight variations

[normal pilot]

some ppl are just beter at it than others

[unborn perch]

I can't even complete a full night's rest 🙁

[normal pilot]

huge skill gap

[jolly delta]

No to be clear I'm not saying that doing collectionism is bad

I'm saying that it's a rough day to be a collectionist

[normal pilot]

i bet there's a larger gap between the top 0.1% completionist vs median than any pve content

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

i raided in Sepulcher with some guy who was top 5 achievement points

on western servers at least

always thought that was crazy

[normal pilot]

that's true dedication to the game

[lofty depot]

Some people are gamers... And some people are wow players

[wise scroll]

elune for m+, keeper for raiding right?

[lofty depot]

Sure

[lucid olive]

sure

[normal pilot]

the game has more content regarding achievement/ccollection than pve stuff

raider/minigamers are just tourists

[lofty depot]

Way more tbf, like pretty infinite on collection

[proven rapids]

Elune always for the space laser /s

[dense steeple]

completionism is a full time job

[lofty depot]

Love when people think "space lazer" is cool

[proven rapids]

Because it is cool 😎

[lucid olive]

i found the guys character, he is at 50460 achievement points now

like 600 off lmao noob

[lofty depot]

It's like when people think baseball is cool

Like ur entitled to ur opinion, but it's rather crazy

[proven rapids]

Baseball is also cool 😎

[lofty depot]

@lucid olive

[lofty depot]

Are u american

Doing a test

[proven rapids]

No I'm from New England

[lucid olive]

thats in america

[drifting nova]

[lofty depot]

....

[drifting nova]

haha

[proven rapids]

(that's the joke)

Admittedly, not a very funny one

[lofty depot]

She a Yankees fan

[lucid olive]

yeah sorry we can't handle jokes here

[lofty depot]

Been through a lot

[proven rapids]

Fuck that shit. Don't insult me like that

[drifting nova]

wait new england isnt canada?

[lofty depot]

Well u said new england.....

[proven rapids]

No, it's in the states(sadly)

[lofty depot]

So Red Sox is the other option

[proven rapids]

New York is not in New England

[royal zenith]

kekkers is from new mississippi dw about it

[drifting nova]

I got asked about old york once

it was a sad day

[lucid olive]

I told Arctic the other day that nobody cares about baseball outside of America

i still hold by that

[drifting nova]

japan?

[lofty depot]

Lol

[royal zenith]

that is very true

[proven rapids]

It's true

[lofty depot]

No it's not

[drifting nova]

JAPAN

[lucid olive]

It was a reaction to @craggy sonnet talking about baseball in regular chat

and hes german

[lofty depot]

Japan, Korea, DR, Venezuela

[royal zenith]

japan does like baseball

[lucid olive]

wtf german person watches baseball!!!

[royal zenith]

DR is very much into it

Football > all

[proven rapids]

Anyways sports are fun and I'm glad people who enjoy sports are having fun(most of the time)

[royal zenith]

not the american football that is

[drifting nova]

DR?

[normal pilot]

dominican republic

[royal zenith]

Dominican Republic

[drifting nova]

oh

[royal zenith]

smh kekkers

[lucid olive]

DDR?

[drifting nova]

kept thinking democratic republic

[normal pilot]

central america baseball is huge

[drifting nova]

[craggy sonnet]

yeah, im not talking about baseball tho?

[lucid olive]

was it another american sport then

[drifting nova]

all I know is you shave your bats

[craggy sonnet]

ye

[lucid olive]

idk they yap about every sport in there

[royal zenith]

wait till we talk about cricket

[lucid olive]

hard to keep up

[craggy sonnet]

basketball

[lofty depot]

Mexican baseball pretty big too tbf

[royal zenith]

and what country loves it most

(it's not GB)

[craggy sonnet]

idk what the convo is about

[lucid olive]

basketball is same imo

i guess some balkan countries play basketball

but its just them and americans

[lofty depot]

Basketball big in europe

[lucid olive]

capping

[royal zenith]

nah, gamz

[drifting nova]

big cope

[normal pilot]

there's some EU leageus ya

[royal zenith]

the NL is actually pretty high up there

[lofty depot]

Not so big in Latin america

[normal pilot]

but it's like minor league

[lucid olive]

thats like me saying skiing is big in europe

just cause norway is great at it

[ruby badger]

It's huge in random countries like France and Spain

[royal zenith]

we kinda do like baseball but it's not HUGE

[drifting nova]

random

[lofty depot]

Many European in nba

[ruby badger]

I say random cause it doesn't seem to have a pattern

[royal zenith]

basketball is w.e.

[ruby badger]

Some of the balkans love it, some parts of west europe

[lucid olive]

yeah they start showing up in 6th grade and pick out the kids with the highest growth spurt

"son you'll be a star"

[royal zenith]

that's not true... cause that would mean us dutch would be perma playing basketball

[lofty depot]

Luka isn't that big

[drifting nova]

tall but no coordination

[lofty depot]

He good player

[lucid olive]

dutch people are tall because their country is below sea level..

[ruby badger]

There have been some shorter guards from europe

[jolly delta]

I mean, skiing is big in Europe

[drifting nova]

the dutch are tall to be great levellers?

[proven rapids]

It's so flat. I don't understand how people live there

[drifting nova]

[jolly delta]

Brother

[craggy sonnet]

sorry caught up .. so whats the argument? people outside of US arent watching basketball or any us sport?

[lucid olive]

cap

[royal zenith]

no we dont

[jolly delta]

The Alps are literally the most famous mountains for skiing

[royal zenith]

who cares about basketball

[lucid olive]

recreationally

not as a sport

[drifting nova]

I drink everytime the superb owl pauses for breaks if that counts

[lucid olive]

skiing is only relevant globally once every 4 years cause of winter olympics

[normal pilot]

is there even a skiing 'league'?

[proven rapids]

Basketball fans, usually.

[lucid olive]

uuuh plenty of tournaments

world cups held like every year or two

then olympics

[royal zenith]

dont think there's a league no

[lucid olive]

world cup usually work like a league and point system

[jolly delta]

skiing not relevant as a sport

brother what

[lucid olive]

having a lot of titles doesnt mean its a big sport people care about

[normal pilot]

ya but there's no set schedule of matches or something?

[lucid olive]

in how many of those countries are the athletes considered celebrities

[drifting nova]

beaten by the most non sport ever, golf

[proven rapids]

I need to learn to snowboard already god damn. I just need almost all of the gear first ....

[jolly delta]

in Italy, Switzerland and Austria for sure

[normal pilot]

at least golf has a league with tv rights

so it's a real sport

[jolly delta]

I'm not into sports but my father knows the Italian skiing team by name

Idk about the other nations but like

[jolly delta]

I think it's on the same level as cycling?

Roughly

[craggy sonnet]

i think the world cup has dedicated events every year

so yes, there is

[proven rapids]

I've never understood the vitriol that sports gets from non-sports fans tbh.

[jolly delta]

Except from the world cup obviously

And the winter cup

And the local cups

[normal pilot]

well like actual schedule throughout the year

[craggy sonnet]

idk what that means

world cup is not a singular event

[lucid olive]

well it's a seasonal sport

[royal zenith]

surely people are not like being obtuse over what gastank actually means

[lucid olive]

goes from november to late march ish

[royal zenith]

[jolly delta]

He's saying that it's like if football didn't have normal leagues outside of the world cup

[royal zenith]

a season is not a league

[drifting nova]

do you know where you are

[jolly delta]

But there are various championships all around europe

[lucid olive]

but yeah there are just tons of random events connected to different winter sports

[jolly delta]

Sure they're not as big as football

Or hockey/baseball/basket in the US

But I'd say that in Europe almost nothing else is

Maybe F1

[lucid olive]

alright tbf, i was more trying to compare the cultural impact of ski sports in Europe to cultural impact of Basketball or Baseball in the US

[proven rapids]

F1 sounds like it'd be so much fun to get into if most of the races weren't at 3am my time zone 😭

[lucid olive]

Norway also cares too much about winter sports and skiing specifically

[drifting nova]

the games?

oh lord

[jolly delta]

Oh yeah not even close

[craggy sonnet]

f1 "games"

[drifting nova]

[royal zenith]

max verstappen was offside the other day

[drifting nova]

VAR not doing their job again

[royal zenith]

smh

[round field]

penalty for hamilton

[lucid olive]

and the winter athletes are so popular here that when they retire they can basically just relax the rest of their life and just do some slop reality show on TV every like 2 years

[proven rapids]

Races*

[proven rapids]

What is a race but a type of game?

[ruby badger]

You worded that like a wizard

[lucid olive]

but Norway is over-the-top crazy about skiing, I was just doubtful that the same thing applied to other european countries

[dense steeple]

do you want a real answer?

[proven rapids]

All language is made up anyways

[ruby badger]

I think some countries just have their random obsessions

Boxing in the UK is pretty huge and then it's like so low down on the ladder in most other places in europe

[normal pilot]

how do they get paid? do skiing matches or w/e you call them have a purse, or is it gov't payment/recognition

[drifting nova]

whats less of a sport

golf or snooker

[dense steeple]

golf

[lucid olive]

paid for qualifying, paid for placement, paid from sponsorships

[drifting nova]

a step further, darts

[lucid olive]

probably paid salary for being on the team

sponsorships carry a lot

[loud kettle]

Golf is immortalized for "golf rules" when determining if a score is good or not

[jolly delta]

It's mostly sponsorships yeah

[loud kettle]

That gives it legitimacy i fear

[ruby badger]

I think Golf is more of a "sport" but I hate how rich you gotta be to get into it

[jolly delta]

And the government also pays once you become slightly recognised at the national level

[proven rapids]

At some point the question largely becomes "what is art?"

[lucid olive]

Also, I think the cultural differences between nations in Europe is bigger than the cultural differences between states in the US, so I guess it's natural for something like Skiing or Basketball to have more of a local impact in EU than in America where it's more nationwide

[drifting nova]

squares and rectangles

[proven rapids]

Depends on where you live. I'm golfs biggest hater but some places have affordable public courses.

[jolly delta]

Yeah I think that e.g. football is an anomaly when it comes to sports in Europe

[lucid olive]

and even football isn't that massive in some countries here I think

[drifting nova]

like Italy

[lucid olive]

even tho it's definitely the biggest sport in the continent

[royal zenith]

all sports are fun

F1 is not a sport though

cars do all the work

[craggy sonnet]

in any case, at least in germany, there are a lot of folks following the nfl and at least decent representation interested in the nba as well

[drifting nova]

if F1 isnt a sport then other racing sports arent sports

[royal zenith]

correct

[lucid olive]

i said this in another discord once and spawned over an hour debate with americans trying to tell me the difference between michigan and california is bigger than the difference between norway and romania..

[drifting nova]

rally?

[royal zenith]

it's just overgrown RC..

[lucid olive]

crazy people start talking shit on golf now that a norwegian is best in the world

smh

[royal zenith]

would we really know about the differences between states though?

cause I wouldn't

they have completely different laws per state

I wouldn't touch that subject by a mile

[drifting nova]

wait if cars do all the work in f1

[exotic perch]

well cant yall just hit long balls of the tops of the fjords

[drifting nova]

is bobsledding then not a sport?

[proven rapids]

That comparison is bullshit but we're not fully homogenized across the entire country.

[dense steeple]

i been talkin shit on golf since 2009

[ruby badger]

Sorry to go off topic, @lucid olive do I pot 1st or 2nd crystals on L'ura?

[lucid olive]

i think it's a fun subject but yeah it's definitely contagious

[lucid olive]

i think either one works

[exotic perch]

w/e your guild needs

[royal zenith]

yeah it's fun obv

[lucid olive]

back up for lust anyway

[exotic perch]

you have the same dmg for all 3 of the sets really with 1 min cds

[ruby badger]

Yeah when I realised I couldn't pot the juicer crystal set and lust....

[lucid olive]

2nd use is without vaelgor

[royal zenith]

pot when the hunters dont have cd's

or when the shammy doesnt have cd

[exotic perch]

oh true i dont have a vaelgors so its the same for me

[drifting nova]

are you even playing the game?

[exotic perch]

im waiting for reclear on dragons lol

played my shaman anyway

ez beloren kill

[lucid olive]

yeah there are for sure big differences between states in america

but all your road signs are in english across entire country or

and written in mph

[proven rapids]

We have some signs in French and Spanish in some parts of the country.............but yeah 100%

[lucid olive]

and if there are alternate languages on road signs then they also feature an english one

[exotic perch]

where tf are there french US road signs

[drifting nova]

south

the funny looking aera

forgot its name

[exotic perch]

upstate new york right by quebec? or new orleans

[unborn perch]

das boot

[proven rapids]

The border of Quebec has some French language on the signs

[drifting nova]

new orleans

[proven rapids]

Mostly in Vermont, New York, and New Hampshire

[exotic perch]

ok i dont think border counts lol

[proven rapids]

No I was being a little shit 😇

[unborn perch]

doesn't detroit have lots of french history

[lucid olive]

and the people in Seattle celebrate Thanksgiving the same as people in Orlando right, if you exclude regular differences you see in family traditions

even tho its opposite sides of the country

[exotic perch]

detroit would only have some bc of the fur trading industry like 200 years ago

the most french partof the usa is new orleans area

[lucid olive]

like compare that to europe where countries celebrate christmas on 3 different days

and every country not even using same calendar system

[proven rapids]

Ooops I'm wrong lmao

[drifting nova]

christmas evers are wronguns

[proven rapids]

Who wants to help me move several US states into Canada so I don't have to live in the US but don't have to move?

[normal pilot]

isn't it going the other way

[drifting nova]

just wait for canada to become a state then move easier

[normal pilot]

like alberta wants to secede or something

[proven rapids]

I sure hope not

[lucid olive]

well we can both agree the actual wrong ones are the january 7 celebrators

[drifting nova]

is that the french one?

[normal pilot]

it's the oil rich one i think

[drifting nova]

you what, who, where

[dense steeple]

how many we talkin

[normal pilot]

they wanna leave canada

[lucid olive]

eastern europe countries use julian calendar

so their christmas is on jan 7

[drifting nova]

..I know what that means

[dense steeple]

India has like 4 calenders its crazy

[proven rapids]

I want to live where I live now I just don't want where I live now to be part of the US because clearly Canada is better. They have a funny accent and say sorry all the time and have never done war crimes or other crimes against humanity

[dense steeple]

just interdispersed and used depending on what oyur family believes

[drifting nova]

never done war crimes?

[proven rapids]

Ideally? Washington, Oregon, California, Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut and Minnesota

[proven rapids]

(that was sarcasm)

[dense steeple]

can ohio come

[drifting nova]

ohio rises

[proven rapids]

Yeah sure

[lofty depot]

U should do more boss damage potting first

[dense steeple]

always take kekkers with a grain of salt

[drifting nova]

we dont do that here

[ruby badger]

Boss damage 🤢

[lofty depot]

Wrong mindset

Bet ur not even playing mushrooms

[ruby badger]

It's first night of prog so I'm unsure if we'll be lacking anywhere, our CD profiles means 2nd set should be fine

[dense steeple]

im not

GOOD ENOUGH

[royal zenith]

but are you having fun soma?

[dense steeple]

no

[royal zenith]

then logout

and quit the game

[dense steeple]

we lost so much rank over the weekend

[drifting nova]

rank is fake

[dense steeple]

got boss to 18 mil hp

[royal zenith]

rank's are all that matter

[drifting nova]

just remember

if you dont get ce

[lofty depot]

Depends, but play incarn and slam 2 mushrooms a set for a while 🙂

[drifting nova]

you are the same as me

an aotc raider

[royal zenith]

he will get CE

that's besides the point

[ruby badger]

[drifting nova]

no but in general, guilds that dont get ce

[royal zenith]

I wont though

[drifting nova]

are the same as aotcers

[lofty depot]

What if I don't have aotc yet

[dense steeple]

imagine dropping to 3% fight prog and then just ripping 7 p1 pulls over the next hour

[clever heart]

quick question. what decides what keystone level you get in the vault?

Is is the highest completed or highest timed key from previous week?

[lofty depot]

Compelted

[ruby badger]

✊

[lofty depot]

That's why it's weekly no leavers

[drifting nova]

then you're with me in hell

[dense steeple]

when i got aotc they gave me the dh glaive

[drifting nova]

only done 2 hc bosses, hc is a meme for gear

actual waste of time

delete it

[lofty depot]

Why go prog heroic when u can prog mythic

[clever heart]

so if i finished an untimed 18 this week, i will get a +18 in vault next week?

[drifting nova]

I am not in a mythic guild

[lofty depot]

Should be 17

But I'm not certain

[drifting nova]

its 18

they removed the -1 in tww

[craggy sonnet]

did they?

[drifting nova]

do you play the game?

[jolly delta]

cap

[lofty depot]

Kekkers saying truths?

[jolly delta]

cars do not do enough work

[craggy sonnet]

im not depleting keys

[drifting nova]

wdym I always tell truths

[jolly delta]

and therefore f1 is boring

just too many silly little rules that prevent cars from being powerful

and therefore funny

[drifting nova]

group B says hello

[craggy sonnet]

im so not sure if you are just making it up

surely you are lying

[drifting nova]

itd be a good bit tho

[craggy sonnet]

are you sure you do not just think that because you cant fall below your resil level?

[proven rapids]

Mood. They should do more work in getting me to work instead of taking the bus

[ruby badger]

He's telling the truth

[drifting nova]

idk what resil is

you think I've touched resil keys?

[ruby badger]

I have an 18, highest key I've done is an 18 I've not timed any keys this week that aren't 12s

[drifting nova]

they removed it because people were getting pissy they did a 10

then had a 9 in vault

so you did 11s

to get 10s

[dense steeple]

wish ive done 18s

[craggy sonnet]

ftr .. you do get the same level if you do not deplete

[drifting nova]

saw a 5 bear group did a 20 today

tanks op

[craggy sonnet]

so i dont understand the people getting pissy doing a 10

[drifting nova]

..before

do 10 get 9

now do 10 get 10

[craggy sonnet]

the question was if it matters whether you deplete or not

[royal zenith]

[drifting nova]

hell I depleted a 10 last month

for vault? no

as its highest completed irregardless of time

[craggy sonnet]

not for vault kekkers!!

for the key you get start of week

[drifting nova]

for vault? no

[drifting nova]

tankshortage.jpg

[craggy sonnet]

[royal zenith]

they tried so hard to make tanks more fun

[drifting nova]

apex talents so far have been a disaster

[iron elbow]

hey guys

[digital berry]

hey

[iron elbow]

i am looking for the best balance dudu here

[drifting nova]

I am here

[digital berry]

do not listen to kekkers

[drifting nova]

back to labs with you

[digital berry]

just ask your question here, that's what this channel is for

[ruby badger]

Maybe he wants to challenge them for the title

[iron elbow]

i am back

sorry delivery came

so i need someone who can help me with

i am stucked at 16 resi bro

cant get up i am trash

[digital berry]

send some logs

[iron elbow]

yeah

a moment

[drifting nova]

reroll spec

[lucid olive]

time keys

[lofty depot]

Do more damage

[drifting nova]

get better tanks

[iron elbow]

hahahhha

[drifting nova]

dont die to one shots

[royal zenith]

get friends/static group

do more keys

become a streamer

[drifting nova]

buy a boost

[ruby badger]

If you wanna be a boomy and push keys make friends yeah

[iron elbow]

bruh they wont even play with me

[ruby badger]

No reason to subject yourself to the queue times when both rdruid and guardian are meta

[iron elbow]

cuz i am not meta

xddd

[lofty depot]

Boomkins don't make friends

[iron elbow]

anyways

boomkins

are the best bro

[drifting nova]

if they die while I'm healing its their fault thats for sure

[proven rapids]

What if you wanna DPS?

[lofty depot]

So u gonna post log or

[iron elbow]

am i allowed

to post links here

or screen

[lofty depot]

Ktb of those specs do dps

Idk try it out

[drifting nova]

[lofty depot]

Lol, ok so how am I gonna help with that

Hey guys look at funny numbers woo

[ruby badger]

You wanna do about 3 more on algethar, 11 on MT

It'll take me a bit to do the maths for the rest

[royal zenith]

he asked if he can post a link though

yes you can @iron elbow

it's not a twitch chat

[iron elbow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/46116975?zone=47&metric=dps&bybracket=1

[lofty depot]

Kekkers is here, u sure

[ruby badger]

Probably submit a specific log you think you played well in

and can't see many mistakes in

[digital berry]

main stat pot?

[lofty depot]

Blud use draught

Gamer type shit

[iron elbow]

ok

what i am supposed to use

[lofty depot]

That is a main stat pot

[iron elbow]

tell mee

brb going to eat

[drifting nova]

wtf is that

[lofty depot]

It just happens to silence u if ur not careful

Blud is announcing his departures now

[drifting nova]

you are chat

gj

[torpid garden]

Hey all! anyone know if there is a macro or so for using lunar eclipse? 🙂

[royal zenith]

bind it to a key?

[drifting nova]

press the button

[torpid garden]

haha, ye but i mean, does it work to macro it with like Starfire xD

[royal zenith]

oh no

[royal zenith]

is this the macro IF into thrash but balance druid

[drifting nova]

I wish

I miss the instant starfires

bring warrior of elune back

[lofty depot]

Why r we incapping smh

[royal zenith]

well he's trying to time the key

[lofty depot]

Playing fluid form and not pressing starfire instead of moonkin

[royal zenith]

I know that's a weird concept arctic..

[lofty depot]

Press beam then silly

I've times 16s

Im gaming

[royal zenith]

they're that easy?

[lofty depot]

Yessem

[drifting nova]

hardest part of m+ this season

is getting a group

if group, easy

[ruby badger]

Same as every season for dps

[lofty depot]

Blud really wants to time this key

[drifting nova]

its ok blizz will not mess up classic+

and I wont have to play retail again

[lofty depot]

Spam casting dots at the end of pack some packs idk

Not entering eclipse after incarns twice

[proven rapids]

I don't want classic or classic+ I just want eclipse to no longer be a button

[lofty depot]

Sitting on 2 charges

[proven rapids]

I miss Cata era balance when you had to actually balance the eclipse bar

That was so much fun

[drifting nova]

still the best trinket ever to exist for balance

[eager raft]

WOAHHHHHHH 16s

didn’t know you were in the great push!!

[drifting nova]

cunning of the cruel from dragon soul

[lofty depot]

@lucid olive where stream

5m comes up just pressing pot for fun ig

U keep slamming asp pre eclipse/cd

Then take forever to gain it back

Pressing 3-5s prior to cds

And or late 3-5s on cds

Oh no

[eager raft]

Arctic schizo?

[lofty depot]

?

[eager raft]

You’re log reviewing nobody….

[lofty depot]

Sure bud

[dense steeple]

hes reviewing gamz as he raids

but gamz isnt streaming

[lofty depot]

Well no

[royal zenith]

nah he's reviewing the guy that went to eat

[dense steeple]

o

[royal zenith]

and was shotgunning random questions

[iron elbow]

i guess

[eager raft]

Hey deux

[lofty depot]

U dont cast wrath in incarn

[pseudo merlin]

is poe2 out yet

im not in on lura

[royal zenith]

18 more days

gl

[pseudo merlin]

fuck

POE2 into Destiny 2 into summer into next wow tier is gonne be good tho

[lofty depot]

GTA6 is what u actually mean

[proven rapids]

I didn't think any other games aside from wow existed

I always wanted to try Destiny 2, its a shame Bungie said I'm not allowed to play it

[lofty depot]

There's no shot u have a steam deck and the only game u play is wow

[pseudo merlin]

thats 2030

[lofty depot]

It's literally like 20 days

[pseudo merlin]

wdym

wait there's an actual release date?

[proven rapids]

Destiny 2 has anticheat that makes it so you can only play it on Windows

[pseudo merlin]

lmao really

yikers

[proven rapids]

Yeah it's such shit

[lofty depot]

🙂

[pseudo merlin]

the game is OMEGA infested with cheaters in pvp

[proven rapids]

Kernel level anticheat should be illegal*

[pseudo merlin]

they might aswell get rid of it

[proven rapids]

WoW has its own dedicated microSD card and I'm too lazy to switch them out often

[drifting nova]

20years more like

[pseudo merlin]

ye im not buying it

not till i see it

[drifting nova]

just release another skyrim smh

[pseudo merlin]

rare kekkers W

[proven rapids]

Sometimes I play Forza Horizon 5 but that also lives on its own dedicated microSD card

And takes 10,000,000 years to load into the game

[drifting nova]

we are both too old to be saying that, stop it

[pseudo merlin]

Listen here unc

Skibbidi

Get mogged

I love this game, no pressure, just do nothing

[drifting nova]

what in the maplestory

[pseudo merlin]

Love how the first 30 min of lura prog are just macro and addon fixing

great game

[drifting nova]

"we'l change the game so you wont need addons"

another one to the blizzard lying list

[pseudo merlin]

ye

Nobody has ever had to spend this much time dealing with addons

disproportionally so

[drifting nova]

when they announced it I thought of the classic sentence

just because you can

should you

[pseudo merlin]

It's "just because you can doesn't mean you should"

[drifting nova]

same thing

[pseudo merlin]

Brits and speaking english...

[drifting nova]

seceeding any day now

[pseudo merlin]

waiting

[lofty depot]

Maybe come prepared for raid

[copper osprey]

do you ever cast wrath when playing elunes chosen in mplus

[drifting nova]

no

[lofty depot]

Outside of eclipse on st maybe

Most part no

[drifting nova]

an unintended consequence of none of the devs playing the game

[pseudo merlin]

why

[drifting nova]

you dont come prepared for work before work do you smh

[pseudo merlin]

Apt comparison

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-boss-makes-a-dollar-i-make-a-dime-thats-why-i-poop-on-company-time-poop-gif-5199018

[lofty depot]

U eat at work or u eat before work

[drifting nova]

at work

[lofty depot]

U get water before work

[pseudo merlin]

at work

[drifting nova]

I'm not wasting 10mins of sleep

to eat

(I work 5 feet from my bed)

[pseudo merlin]

I dont think that's called work

[lofty depot]

So u wake up and don't get ur coffee prework

[pseudo merlin]

caffeine is for weak people tbf

[drifting nova]

dont get coffee atall, so no

[lofty depot]

U don't get ur water

[drifting nova]

no

this is why god created work breaks

[pseudo merlin]

no, those are for smoking

[lofty depot]

That is also a time where we're not raiding and questions get answered

Break time

[drifting nova]

when I did have to actually go out to work I prepped dinner in the morning

smartest time save

cant do that at work

[proven rapids]

I've gotta reload the UI at least once per session because of LUA errors

I'm so over it

[lofty depot]

Can u download addons on steam deck 👀

[pseudo merlin]

My favorite thing is lua errors that result from base ui

didnt even know that was possible

[proven rapids]

I only drink coffee once I'm at work

[lofty depot]

Do u get the coffee before starting work

[proven rapids]

Yes, Curseforge even had a native Linux client that seamlessly works the same as Windows

[proven rapids]

Lol no I get my coffee once I'm clocked on

[lofty depot]

Download bug grabber and bugsack

And then go into the settings and mute which everyone has sound.. it'll say "fatality"

But nonetheless the errors won't come up anymore 🙂

[proven rapids]

Literally all of mine are because of the base UI 😭

[pseudo merlin]

the fatality thing has been pissing me off

it's this tiny lil fairy voice

and it NEVER STOPS

[lofty depot]

Mute it silly

[drifting nova]

not a worms enjoyer

smh

[proven rapids]

My lunch break is for staring into my phone in a dissociative trance for an hour.

[lofty depot]

Rave out here listening to pixies lol

[pseudo merlin]

😭

[proven rapids]

My paid 10 minute breaks (because why give us 15 minutes....) are for getting more coffee

[royal zenith]

it does describe a typical steam deck user

[pseudo merlin]

kekw

[proven rapids]

Huh?

I've been playing a ton of wow on the bus ride home from work. 10/10

[pseudo merlin]

btw you CAN install windows on the deck

and play destiny

[proven rapids]

I can but I'm not gonna

[royal zenith]

Why go through all that effort

[pseudo merlin]

yeah idk

[lofty depot]

Play osrs

[proven rapids]

I'm not installing Windows for one single game

[royal zenith]

are your bus rides like 4hrs?

[lofty depot]

Better gane

[pseudo merlin]

just download destiny mobile on mobile

[proven rapids]

Typically i have a 40-60 minute uninterrupted bus ride on my way home. Then one or two more after that depending on what route I pick

Thankfully the later two are much shorter

[royal zenith]

perfect time to just look at other people

[proven rapids]

Or grind some delves out

[pseudo merlin]

why look at other people when ai exists

[royal zenith]

grind out all the lua errors..

[proven rapids]

Exactly

[drifting nova]

40-60? must be a fun 5 miles

[proven rapids]

Because I know better than using genAI 😇

[pseudo merlin]

why

do you like water and cheap electricity or something

and the environment

kekw

[proven rapids]

It's about 15 miles or so

[drifting nova]

oh..mine is 5/6miles

worst hour of my life

[pseudo merlin]

I never minded long travel times by train when I was young, but I wouldn't go back to it if you paid me

horrendous

[proven rapids]

Yeah it sucks

I'm trying to get a car to make my commute sustainable but y'know

Cars are expensive

[pseudo merlin]

10-20 minute walks to station, overcrowded trains, nasty people, 20% of your day gone

Depends where you live I guess

in The Netherlands a car is cheaper

You just need to solve parking

[proven rapids]

Sadly I live in the US

Fortunately I live somewhere where public transportation is feasible

But it sucks lmao

[pseudo merlin]

We pay 12 a gallon for gas

[proven rapids]

Also I just really like cars and want another one so badly it hurts

[pseudo merlin]

No shot a car isnt cheaper in the us

[exotic perch]

depends if you are buying new lol

[proven rapids]

I can't afford any of the cars I actually want so I'll suffer with a boring car

[pseudo merlin]

You just need to buy a second hand toyota

[proven rapids]

They're absolutely cheaper in the US they're just expensive

[pseudo merlin]

An A segment car

[exotic perch]

i bought my 2017 subaru forester for 18k last year

[pseudo merlin]

My first car was like an old volvo, I paid 600 for it

[proven rapids]

That's about what I want! A 2016-2018 Subaru Forester 2.5i Premium

[pseudo merlin]

Yearly operating costs was like 500

then a €1000 VW polo

Then a €5000 toyota

[lofty depot]

10 year old car 100k miles, surely nothing will go wrong

[proven rapids]

The only Toyota I can see myself genuinely wanting is a Tacoma

[pseudo merlin]

correct

[lofty depot]

Tacoma, hell ya

[pseudo merlin]

I sold my toyota at 120k miles at 14 years old

[proven rapids]

But even then - not really because all of the six speed models are $10,000,000 used

[pseudo merlin]

It still ran beautifully

[exotic perch]

yeah buy something older and just take care of it

[proven rapids]

What I really want is a Jeep Wrangler, but I can't afford to fuel it so my second backup is a Forester (2016-2018) or literally anything that runs

[pseudo merlin]

OK but

[lofty depot]

No u dont

[pseudo merlin]

never ever ever buy jeep

are you insane or

[proven rapids]

But jeep

The 3.6 is a good motor and I'm tired of this slander

[pseudo merlin]

Jeep is the kind of thing you buy if you're swimming in money and you really like it

Not for reliability

[proven rapids]

Yeah it is

[pseudo merlin]

It's the worst car brand on the planet

literally

[lofty depot]

Jeep is a thing u buy..... Never

[proven rapids]

The 3.6 is fine

[pseudo merlin]

yes

fine

[lofty depot]

It's not the fucking motor

[pseudo merlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/april-fools-joke-2--k01KRC9K72RYCDZ31K28NK47M9Q

[proven rapids]

It's not like stunningly reliable or anything but it's a workhorse

[pseudo merlin]

Nothing jeep makes is a workhorse

[lofty depot]

It's dog ass to repair ever

[proven rapids]

I know enough about cars to know that I do want a Jeep

[pseudo merlin]

It's a horse that needs work

[lofty depot]

And unless ur in some 4 wheel drive situations daily, what's the point

[proven rapids]

What other 2 door convertible SUVs with a manual transmission can you get in the US? The Bronco

That's it

[pseudo merlin]

The point doesnt matter

if you want it you want it

I wont argue that

[lofty depot]

No

Lots of people want things

[pseudo merlin]

I just will never give up on telling people not to buy shit reliability cars

[lofty depot]

Stop that

That's a sin

[proven rapids]

The convertible part I can take or leave but the 2 door part is killer

[pseudo merlin]

oh yeah I wouldnt know

[proven rapids]

Oh when someone asks me for car recommendations my first suggestion is a Prius my second suggestion is a Camry

[pseudo merlin]

You might be right

In which case leave that purchase for when you're financially stable enough to never have a problem if you have to write it off completely

[proven rapids]

But those cars are boring and I don't want a boring car

[pseudo merlin]

and buy some toyota for transportation before that

[proven rapids]

I definitely can't have two cars 😞

[pseudo merlin]

I bet you can

[proven rapids]

Not with street parking

At least not practically

[pseudo merlin]

A second hand reliable toyota as a daily alongside the jeep for fun is cheaper than dailying the jeep

I guarantee it

Ah yeah parking's a bitch

[lofty depot]

So buy a car for function

[proven rapids]

Meh. Post refresh JKs and JLs are reasonable daily drivers

I'd never get a Wrangler with a 3.7 but the 3.6 is sturdy and reasonable

[pseudo merlin]

If you say so

Liking nice cars is a fucking curse

I hate that it's got me

[proven rapids]

It truly is

[pseudo merlin]

I would be so filthy rich otherwise

[proven rapids]

One of my realistic dream cars is an old Volvo

"old"

Tfw 20 year old cars are old 😞

[pseudo merlin]

I damaged my front bumper the other day

repair was 7k

🙂

I just drove over some grass/mud that was a bit too high for my cars ground clearance

[proven rapids]

I've got it all sorted tho: in order of least affordability it'd go
-Jeep Wrangler
-Subaru Forester
-Subaru Impreza/Crosstrek
-anything else

[pseudo merlin]

get a WRX

gg

[proven rapids]

The Impreza would suck cuz I'd have to throw a lift kit on there

[proven rapids]

I'll die before buying a sedan

[pseudo merlin]

I hate the SUV hype

99% of people dont need one

[proven rapids]

I don't necessarily need an SUV

[pseudo merlin]

And I only drive low sportscars

[proven rapids]

I just don't want a sedan

[pseudo merlin]

So I can't see anything because of you all

[proven rapids]

Give me 2 doors, 3 doors, or 5 doors or give me death

[lofty depot]

2 door SUV... Can I introduce u to a blazer

[proven rapids]

The S10 Blazer? Those are cool but absolutely not

[lofty depot]

....

[pseudo merlin]

why not

[lofty depot]

10x better than ur shitter jeep

[proven rapids]

Old enough to have some technologies I'd rather not deal with

A JK Wrangler doesn't need to deal with vacuum tubes running all through the car, for instance.

[pseudo merlin]

Why don't you buy a Hongqi HS7?

[proven rapids]

America 😞

We don't get the cool Chinese cars because of racism

[pseudo merlin]

https://klipy.com/gifs/trump-china-5--k01KRCA55YKZDF2BWMKXX89DA8M

[proven rapids]

Thanks, Mercedes.

[pseudo merlin]

Genesis GV90?