fiery kindle
obv
#balance
drifting nova
yeah idk what that is
but most importantly
he plays a spec that requires hands
lucid solar
Dumb question, how much of a ST loss is it to play EC over Grove?
craggy sonnet
if you ask the sim .. almost any reasonable ec build is gonna beat keeper
whether that tells you anything about actual performance for a boss is up for debate
drifting nova
the thought of a st ec build horrifies me
lucid olive
lucid olive
real
fleet thorn
or your own life
lucid olive
is that the RWF way to get PI
fleet thorn
getting pi in rwf is an affix
cause you get 10 whispers if it's really best on you every other pull
lucid olive
i can imagine that
fleet thorn
that's why you make crazy spreadsheets for all scenarios PI before prog
loud kettle
I play priest and my guild has me changing pi target like every 5th pull sometimes 💀
vast dome
Hey guys, quick question:
Do the Nexus rings count as unique embellishments? I only have crafted wrists with Arcanoweave Lining, but it says “Unique Equipped (2)”, which confused me.
Also, not sure if it’s worth crafting the Aln’hara Cane (285) since I already have a mythic dagger + off-hand.
I want to craft something with myth crests, but I’m not sure what’s best at the moment or which embellishments to go for.
I’ve tried simming it, but I’m not very experienced with sims.. 😅
Am I somehow able to share my Sim or something, if someone can have a look?
loud kettle
Nexus rings are not embellishments
fleet thorn
craggy sonnet
Hey guys, quick question:
Do the Nexus rings count as unique embellishments? I ...
you can share sims .. just copypaste the report url.
it says "Unique Equipped (2)" because you can have two of these types of items, not because you already have 2 or whatever
lucid olive
https://www.twitch.tv/hopefulx/clip/MotionlessPowerfulZucchiniNerfRedBlaster-oBm...
that clip is gold
hecking love power infusion
stone ledge
i love gapping people who have pi
like just imagine pullin up to the 100m dash you on peds and lose to the fat bird
fleet thorn
that's what winning against liquid feels like
vast dome
you can share sims .. just copypaste the report url.
it says "Unique Equipped (2...
Thanks for the help. Alright, I didn't know that. Thought it meant that I had two equipped. I tried simming wheter staff or belt is best.
Here's the sim (i cant seem to figure out how to increase the ilvl to 285 while using sim though: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ggoz4gtNM9jNm7PyUqA1bJ
vast dome
Yes
craggy sonnet
why not craft multiple items then? or you just wanna know which one to also put an embellishment on
btw, your belts do not have an embellishment
vast dome
I only have myth crests for one craft currently
craggy sonnet
(you would need to add whatever stat combination you want with and without embell to combo with other crafted items if you wanted that)
i see
vast dome
ahh shit
well, would you say staff is worth the craft for me? seeing as I have the myth dagger and offhand, it still seems the staff is better?
craggy sonnet
@lofty depot does upgrading 2h still give free upgrades to mh+oh?
generally speaking, upgrading weapon is by far the best use of your crests
lucid olive
you could craft a myth staff and "gain" 80 crests
vast dome
Thanks alot for the help, appriciated
dense steeple
too bad im not a monk warrior 
fair pasture
Wonk
Monks are always doing flips I bet they're upside down at some point
Or australian
(w is m upside down)
on heroic lura, the safeuguard matrixes, can i beam one of them and then the next two rotate into the beam?
lofty depot
no
drifting nova
🫃
plucky valley
am i goated or
🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🏿🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃
drifting nova
am i goated or
wrong spec buddy
fair pasture
whats the name of the icon addon for lura
fair pasture
am i goated or
yes
lofty depot
whats the name of the icon addon for lura
well most people likely use nsrt
fair pasture
oh that has it with it?
delicate perch
🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🏿🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃
exotic perch
yo this spec is ass at lura
rare shoal
plucky valley
Autocorrect sorry
I completely understand
plucky valley
<:dracmpreg:1424837006424408204>
drifting nova
https://youtu.be/yXNASNKxasQ?si=z0knAB4kwbQWu5Kc
what happened to the promise of bricking all addons smh
blizz imponent
lofty depot
theyre ahead of schedule
drifting nova
fack imagine how daoc wow would be without addons
still very much stand by addons being a greater part of the game than the actual game is, especially now
fair pasture
if we're not playing Aetherial Kindling, you inevitably have to refresh sunfire in incarn, its still better to keep it up right?
lofty depot
u press sunfire prior to incarn
fair pasture
yeah sunfire is 18s incarn is 20s
lofty depot
ok... 1 that covers most of incarn but also that implies u didnt have it up prior to incarn
which u shouldve
fair pasture
what
lofty depot
soooooooooooo it would be 23 seconds
fair pasture
no im saying even if u sunfire right before incarn
lofty depot
no
fair pasture
like if the previous one wasnt refresh in pandemic?
lofty depot
it doesnt need to be refreshed in pandemic
it just needs to be refreshed
science
frank scaffold
Hey @lofty depot, as you're the goat here, explain this please
should I not follow raibots?
lofty depot
priority list isnt exact to openers
jaunty blaze
Maybe read the sentence on top
lofty depot
but with incarn and in specific situations gain some small margins with eclipse presses prior
in aoe its an increase to eclipse use asp/procs on 2-3 ascendent procs then incarn
it just implies the pack will live through incarn
frank scaffold
ohh my bad you right guys I was reading it as it was an opener
frank scaffold
it just implies the pack will live through incarn
noted, thx
lofty depot
frank scaffold
what's that xD
lofty depot
the apl
fair pasture
it just needs to be refreshed
ok my first sunfire had no previous sunfire before it
frank scaffold
now another simple question. Are you guys actually using Wrath? T.T
too many buttons already (I'm using starfire for both single and AoE)
lofty depot
now another simple question. Are you guys actually using Wrath? T.T
too many bu...
i do sure
u dont have to
u should be using starfire in st and aoe regardless
u just can wrath on st outside of eclipse
lofty depot
it would end in the last 3 seconds of incarn sure
lofty depot
u refresh it at somepoint in the last like 6 seconds
but u could do the long opener with eclipse
depends on fight
lofty depot
well u could be holding'
fair pasture
yeah in this case no hold
crystals get evaporated
immedaitely
but putting eclipse on cooldown earlier seems better
anyway
lofty depot
u could evaporate them
fair pasture
sure, i could, and maybe in mythic i will
but currently pretend this is patchwerk
dad i know u want the best for me but im asking a specific question here xD
lofty depot
i think the long opener is an increase
regardless of the aoe part
at least the incarn sim does that
doesnt refresh prior tho... hm
lofty depot
its gaining asp
fair pasture
yeah
dull dust
i think the long opener is an increase
is yea
dull dust
in aoe?
lofty depot
in general
lofty depot
apl doesnt do it
lofty depot
link sim and not some picjktwukesah ikfhsaul fhukldahf
lofty depot
i will not be doing that
dull dust
🥀
lofty depot
smh not on simcode
lofty depot
smh doesnt do it every one
just does it on opener
if its neutral... it feels better 😛
but idk
dull dust
actions.kotg_st+=/sunfire,target_if=dot.sunfire.remains<10&variable.ca_soon&cooldown.force_of_nature.remains<3&target.time_to_die>10,line_cd=10
fair pasture
dull dust
unlucky
fair pasture
flying not allowed
dull dust
why cant u fly
fair pasture
i didnt play tww
dull dust
tf
fair pasture
i only started playing like a month ago
dull dust
oof
fair pasture
how much of the stupid tww story do i need to do to GIVE ME MY WIIIINNNGGGGS
angy
fair pasture
D :
fair pasture
if i could use the fish out of water thatd be amazing
magikarp animations for casting
splash around
shoot lasers
drifting nova
only seen it like 3x since getting it
fair pasture
boomkin is gyarados confirmed
hollow mist
is an underwater zone
jolly delta
Fuck my stupid chungus life
drifting nova
true
but my mind barrier makes it a good zone
because I only did it as a warrior
actual hell as melee
prob fine for range idk
fair pasture
I did it as warrior also
jolly delta
should i not post that
ye for now do not
dull dust
does the tabs create a new sim or a copy
jolly delta
but also sometimes feel free to send by mistake and then delete
adds an aura of hype
dull dust
do u still make copies if i wanna see that
jolly delta
jolly delta
does the tabs create a new sim or a copy
a new copy
lofty depot
do u still make copies if i wanna see that
well i can just send it in secretspies
lofty depot
just open the link i sent silly
dull dust
gunna be here for 10mins
fair pasture
should i not post that
post waht
jolly delta
im on the bargin bin rate
is this gear compare
lofty depot
👀 nothing
jolly delta
What are the 3 phases - I don't know my own website
jolly delta
Oh I see
lofty depot
gotta make it 10k iter
lofty depot
oh why it bad
dull dust
jolly delta
check if its any quicker
if its not then uhh maybe i fucked up multithreading
or I just really need a better CPU
dull dust
seems faster
lofty depot
ye
dull dust
your iterations/sec counter is deff wrong tho
jolly delta
your iterations/sec counter is deff wrong tho
dull dust
jolly delta
what the hell i lost dam
its within variance you silly
loud kettle
lost dam gg
loud kettle
i have to explain sim variance everytime someone in my guild says they have a +12 dps increase
lofty depot
i have to explain sim variance everytime someone in my guild says they have a +1...
😛
"sir the number is blue......."
jolly delta
yesterday I spent uhh
2k
swapping from mast-haste to crit-mast
because it was a 2% increase
and then realized my previous gems were at 1.9
and the rest was just changing the weap ench
loud kettle
worlds most brilliant simmer
jolly delta
takes one to build the new simming website
delicate perch
the fuck this
that's incarn/stare/pot hope that helps
lofty depot
it doesnt
lofty depot
ripe slate
the fuck this
oops
sometimes i ran down my cds cause im RLing most of the fight xd
also wishing i wasnt playing a cosmetic class for that fight 
unfortunately my geared alt was a spriest, also cosmetic
wait thats my first one
it looks weird but it was the combo that ended up with the best total damage when i was playing around with first adds tbh
probably couldve moved the incarn ahead a single starfall but w.e
lofty depot
sometimes i ran down my cds cause im RLing most of the fight xd
oh rip
ripe slate
unless the comment about buffing the bolts was serious xdd
lofty depot
it is
ripe slate
obsidian jetty
tbh I could 1 button sequence macro the entire p1, every cast is scripted except for random movement sf/mfs from terror glaives
ripe slate
lol
obsidian jetty
I do this sequence every CD window and pray my guild kicks in time
lofty depot
well yea but ur playing convoke
ripe slate
tbh i didnt even know buffing the bolts was a thing i wasnt expecting to be on moonkin so i havent had much time to look into new stuff cause of all the prepwork
lofty depot
tbh i didnt even know buffing the bolts was a thing i wasnt expecting to be on m...
tbf most dont
lofty depot
top secret
ripe slate
blow up
lofty depot
ripe slate
i feel like your ddh and fire mage have to be trolling if u ever have a chance at beating them even with shrooms
fair pasture
if they dont die u wipe!!!!
obsidian jetty
if they dont die u wipe
you're doin 4m less boss damn than me, atleast comparing both our last pulls 💀
ripe slate
even when i use full aoe gcds im doing half the damage of the devos and fire mage lol
so i just kinda stopped doing much aoe xd
im here to call the fight and call bad glaives
lofty depot
you're doin 4m less boss damn than me, atleast comparing both our last pulls 💀
im doing like 4m more boss dam than noctuss
ripe slate
lofty depot
and or generally was
delicate perch
you're doin 4m less boss damn than me, atleast comparing both our last pulls 💀
@vital hound 
arctic the rat
lofty depot
hes playing convoke
delicate perch
I'm not reading all those excuses
ripe slate
ive seen the recruitie 1min convoke build on logs
better than playing foe ngl
i hate foe as kotg
cringe content
delicate perch
100%
ripe slate
sure but most are xd
lofty depot
well most arent playing wm
delicate perch
not doing boss damage either apparently
lofty depot
so
delicate perch
ripe slate
ripe slate
not gonna lie
the dps check aint real enough you need to innovate much you just needa play whats comfy so you can autopilot and focus on boss mechs
lofty depot
well im innovating on pad so i can r1
ripe slate
✅
ripe slate
im gonna play feral on rekill so i have some value as a human on that fight
(this is a lie)
delicate perch
Healers are not human???
ripe slate
druids cant be humans at all
delicate perch
Are we spreading misinformation
lofty depot
smh
ripe slate
if i had literally anything else but spriest/moonkin geared i would not have played moonkin on lura 
lofty depot
spr should be good no?
ripe slate
its fine
not a ton better than moonkin tho
maybe +pi value it'd look better
i say that but also i needed something im comfortable on to RL with so i can actually not be floor pov
if only i was a bm main
good tier for that
obsidian jetty
the mobility req on that boss would prob feel ass as spriest
ripe slate
also true
obsidian jetty
I havn't played it in abit, but generally spriest mobility is pbad
ripe slate
its not terrible
lofty depot
feels so free with all my procs man
obsidian jetty
maybe if you're still playing cast while moving voit
ripe slate
but its definitely worse than moonkin
obsidian jetty
can be good
obsidian jetty
🫡 gg
ripe slate
but yeah
i think dps-wise i played like ass on lura but i also think it was worth it to be able to RL well on a fight like that
lofty depot
best to have a class ur comfortable on ye
lofty depot
surely
fair pasture
ppl just playing fire on m lura?
ripe slate
fire shits on p1 adds
obsidian jetty
yea, I would cry if I had to do this shit every pull
ripe slate
and does good lust p3 damage
ripe slate
yea, I would cry if I had to do this shit every pull
LMAO
i wonder if belo is gonna be 1 eggable late in farm
1 heal with like 12+% raid buff and turbo boosted trinkets/weapon
obsidian jetty
bring 8 3m ele shams
ripe slate
havent watched and seen if like ID or liquid recleared post nerf but istg they must get like 20% eggs if they had all mains
if not lower
with 40s egg
p1 has a pretty low healing req compared to p2 so you could probably 1 heal with like rdruid or something
brute force it like heroic lol
ripe slate
and does good lust p3 damage
also good luck ever doing damage in p4 as frost lowkey
fair pasture
true true
stone ledge
We are around 35% eggs with a few people still optimizing now. 1 phase will def be possible once sporefall is out
sudden flame
doubt
round field
i dont think sporefall will give 35% dps..
obsidian jetty
you need like 53.8% more group dmg to go from 35% to dead egg
ripe slate
35% eggs is on the higher end in reality
jade flume
depends on the meal
ripe slate
i reemember NS got a sub-30 (or very close) egg IIRC after the original 5% hp nerf
pallid bay
35% is like a really good 30s egg or
ripe slate
well i mean like not prog
i dont think you ever 1 phase in prog
talking about like long-term farm
ripe slate
oh yeah
livid jay
40s egg sounds like its not gonna be cooked very well
pallid bay
so in reality you're more likely to be at sub 30
livid jay
runny eggwhite tho?
pallid bay
think i calculated it to be like 10.5M per player
livid jay
guess with a very hot pan you could do a 40s scrambled eggs ye
ripe slate
is 1 tank actually possible?
livid jay
as looq said it depends on the meal
ripe slate
or would you end up buffign boss
sudden flame
think i calculated it to be like 10.5M per player
what if im playing feral
jade flume
4mil then
round field
then ur benched so it doesnt matter
pallid bay
is 1 tank actually possible?
there's 4 frontals, 2 of which the main tank will take right
so 2 frontals that needs to be taken by a dps with a taunt
ripe slate
ic
pallid bay
you'll just group soak and send every external on the frontal instead
ripe slate
in theory possible
sudden flame
then ur benched so it doesnt matter
what if the only other dps on the bench is a warrior
pallid bay
if one of them dies then gg just ress
ripe slate
velocity got a 29% egg with this week's changes
pallid bay
didnt they 4heal
ripe slate
yeah
round field
what if the only other dps on the bench is a warrior
then you gdisband
round field
big recruitment fail...
ripe slate
pallid bay
if we take their worst dps
preheat
ok maybe not a good example
how do u do 6.58M
surely there's a better mage spec
loud kettle
im left in suspense
round field
suspend dn in ur mouth
pallid bay
they were missing 57M
round field
doing dmg cant be that hard or?
ripe slate
surely there's a better mage spec
im actually not sure there is LMAO
loud kettle
Ok the tank does some dmg though
ripe slate
33M
- some damage for turbo boost soontm (unsure if we get all 3 at once or if its still timegated)
if they keep sporefall at 298 also +dmg there too
pallid bay
which is like 4.4 dps
ripe slate
raid buff stacks as well
loud kettle
What % we at this week for raid buff
pallid bay
its also just the fact that they arent optimizing for 1 egg to begin with
ripe slate
as long as we have a skip to ignore SLG
round field
ye thats fine
ripe slate
prenerf SLG single worst boss ever designed in wow history
round field
go back patch one
make covenants not shit from the start
delete slg
and bam
best xpac ever
and never nerf halondrus
ripe slate
ripe slate
its ok if it's classic then we'll have WAs again
round field
^
vale pebble
ye classic still has weakauras
round field
i had that weakaura break a few times
felt like i was driving a car with my eyes closed
praying i dont crash and burn
(i ran into a tree)
(i also dont have a license)
vale pebble
i had 3 ppl try to remake it for demolock in dragonflight s2
they all failed had to go dm jund
and he remade it from scratch
that shit was so cooked
delicate perch
shadowlands classic when
sludgefist 
round field
slamming a venthyr ramp into sludge with orb affix spawning snapshotting mushroom dot onto boss
ripe slate
i miss CA being a monster cd
round field
ripe slate
the last tier 4p gave me a taste of a good cooldown again
lyric kettle
sludgefist <:FeelsGoodMan:405132397047185414>
Pls no
round field
why not
delicate perch
imagine venth into egg
round field
venth rly needs to make a comeback...
make it choice node with convoke
add bees as well
vale pebble
add bees as well
round field
and kyrian in class tree
vale pebble
make it choice node with convoke
vale pebble
and kyrian in class tree
🪤
sudden flame
venth rly needs to make a comeback...
weren't people jumping off the platform if they got a mechanic during venth burst?
vale pebble
weren't people jumping off the platform if they got a mechanic during venth burs...
no
if they didnt get any mechanic
they would jump off
round field
weren't people jumping off the platform if they got a mechanic during venth burs...
ask ari about enderox on sylvanas
vale pebble
ask ari about enderox on sylvanas
dont ask chickenxd about iqnious on rik reverb
round field
what about mugzee
vale pebble
not as funny
sudden flame
what could you do wrong on mugzee reclear
lethal imp
When I ca with convoke should I be spending my AP between activating ca and pressing convoke or just convoke instantly with a full ap bar?
round field
pretty sure spending ap is better than wasting ap
livid jay
cause starlord definitely does something for convoke 
fair pasture
Does haste not compress the channel
livid jay
nope
fair pasture
Therefore making it do more damage
fair pasture
Well everything I read said spend ur 3 buffed spenders
round field
convoke has never been hasted 
fair pasture
Before convoking
livid jay
you only spend before convoke so u dont waste ap ye
fair pasture
convoke has never been hasted <a:ICANTT:1262915118316912690>
Do u have to laughing emoji
Is that necessary
livid jay
its iqni ignore him
round field
yes why?
livid jay
he's probably already talked to 3 germans today and the day is ruined
livid jay
oh nice
round field
delicate perch
unlucky
stable frigate
Why does the guide recommend crafting (wrist) + belt. Shouldn't we do it on low budget like wrist + cloak?
sudden flame
stable frigate
Yeah but cloak is lower budget than belt why did he write belt as default.
Low: Boots/belt = same
Even lower: Wrist/cloak= same
Right?
Just wanted to make sure there was no other hidden thing I didnt' get like socket or something x)
jade flume
nah theres nothing special
not sure why its recommended, maybe because with belt u have something to put socket into
in case u have to take socklet from vault
at this point i'd just craft cloak+bracers though if u have a weapon
tiny salmon
https://imgur.com/8syqm6g
Whoah where is that from? 😮
sudden flame
3 boomy tier 
round field
Back when the game was good
vale pebble
😮
vale pebble
just gotta be evoker player
we lowk just need to remove hover and empower spells
then evoker is playable
idk how empower spells are still in the game
vale pebble
has always been
evoker is just
worst class in the game
by a mile
idk what is about hover
stable frigate
nah theres nothing special
Aight cool ty 😄
I have a myth weap in bag waiting for when it's optimal to craft (its a crest loss overall if i craft something now i guess)
jade flume
tbh i really just dont like when my healing scales with dmg taken
also you insta oom
idk the spec is just trash
monk and druid are really fun tho
vale pebble
also you insta oom
maybe u is noob?
vale pebble
monk and druid are really fun tho
rd is good yea
i played like 2 days of luura on it
i got gapped deluxe by that spec
jade flume
maybe u is noob?
i am tbf
sudden flame
same 🥀
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> <:kekwpoint:1268915632087502890> arctic the rat
he's actually a parse lizard
its insane
round field
fraudtic
jade flume
I respect it
livid jay
hes the most ethical padder
watched me prog it for a bit and gave me advice on how to pad better
pallid bay
not speccing pres unless they pay me
mercing for your own guild
jade flume
it is what it is
craggy sonnet
well im innovating on pad so i can r1
r1 without goldrinn just for P1 pad?
craggy arrow
Trinkets: mythic Gaze simming as a DPS loss compared to mythic Soulcatcher's Charm - is this likely correct or am I victim of a sim bait for this particular trinket?
sudden flame
Surely you can unironically do more damage if you play for boss damage
is convoke not better for the p3 and p4 damage amps on lura
i guess they are whole phase amps not limited duration
round field
Trinkets: mythic Gaze simming as a DPS loss compared to mythic Soulcatcher's Cha...
i think u fucked something up really badly
show sim
most likely picnic
round field
jolly delta
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b4LT3g8CUjYsSj1ZHnjWsz
what in the sim is that
in the sense, I dont see anything wrong
jolly delta
except for the results
round field
^
fair pasture
Eternal voidsong chain
And shadow damage?
Prolly not being procced otherwise
Idr what dmg type nexus rings are
round field
rings proc from anything
fair pasture
Yes but what type of damage does the ring proc do
sudden flame
shadow
but you have 77% uptime on shadow damage from the trinekt so its definitely proccing the neck more
round field
pretty sure its shadow ye
ruby badger
I think having more main stat in your CD windows, which in this raid can often be during increased target counts or damage amps, would in practice net you more DPS even if the sim says 0.2% loss in a pure patchwerk 5 min
craggy sonnet
thats not bad tbh .. so how we dealing shadow dmg then?
craggy sonnet
gimme something better
craggy sonnet
find free shadow dmg, still play gaze, get .4% for free
sudden flame
or play gaze and get lura neck for double socket
craggy sonnet
(i have no idea how much a socket is worth)
jolly delta
~0.4%
sudden flame
sudden flame
craggy sonnet
unfortunate
sudden flame
when sporefall coems out we all gonna be rockign the lura ring and sporefall ring cya nexus point rings
round field
what if ur sporefall ring rolls shit stats
craggy sonnet
you get another
round field
what if that one rolls shit stats as well
sudden flame
is that a thing
round field
ye apparently they made a change last patch that all items from that raid have random stats
round field
enjoy ur
high vers low crit bonus roll
bonus roll into 250 vers 30 crit
(ur spec wants 0 vers 0 crit)
merry cargo
guyswhats the trinket from doung instead of gaze/vaelgor
craggy arrow
Well, ty all - glad to know it wasn't a sim issue
craggy sonnet
Tbf, I don't know if it actually works like that ingame
Stuff triggering stuff not always consistent
round field
dont trust big sim
lofty depot
r1 without goldrinn just for P1 pad?
Well I said I was going to change AC, I was just doing some tests last night
sudden flame
padgod
craggy sonnet
is it even worth doing both wild mushrooms and meteorites?
10 minute fight with 15s of adds idk
craggy sonnet
ok, i meant the whole starfall package
and you are not pressing starfall enough even with meteor storm to make meteorites worth
lofty depot
Maybe you arent
craggy sonnet
(unless ofc you are deliberately spending procs on it and lose dmg)
lofty depot
Deliberately spending procs and losing damage
You cosmos Starfall procs so idk how u mean but sure
lofty depot
You do
livid jay
i do?
fossil hemlock
surely you've seen this
I saw it but it's awfully unclear
lofty depot
Saw a bunch of colors on a sheet
craggy sonnet
did you also see the condition on the sides?
trail swan
This might be a dumb AF question : I have issues atm doing more than 120k overall in 15s with ilvl 279. Im a bit confused on when to use the lunar eclipse outside of cds.
ruby badger
If you can hit something for the duration of lunar eclipse and have a lot of AP, press it
craggy sonnet
talent goldrinn
lofty depot
That also says always
fossil hemlock
lofty depot
With stellar amp
fossil hemlock
lofty depot
So ur just making shit up
Grr angry man
Says always with stellar amp to
Blud trying to impead my innovation
solemn granite
I thought us dudu’s are peaceful 🥴🤝
craggy sonnet
is it worth it for 15s of adds in a 10min fight
lofty depot
is it worth it for 15s of adds in a 10min fight
It's worth it on st the fuck u think it's not worth it on aoe
Are we so serious
craggy sonnet
talenting meteor storm and wild mushroom
lofty depot
Well wm is just cuz we needed add damage at the time
Still kinda do
Depends on devdhs ability to be powerful
lofty depot
One of them is not being powerful
I also could pad more and pot on 2nd set
But I pot on pull so I can do more boss dam
dense steeple
if you ask the ddh's theyll tell you that WCL needs to seperate 12.0.5 and 12.0.5post ddh nerf logs
lofty depot
Ethical >
dense steeple
because any good parse from last week is just guaranteed locked at its rank and you cant beat it
dense steeple
maybe
they lost like 10%
dude who got r1 imp last week said his parse wouldnt last 3 days
now that its nerfed no ones even fuckin close
craggy sonnet
Well wm is just cuz we needed add damage at the time
but cant you just blast the adds with wm and be done?
do you actually need meteor storm
lofty depot
I mean
dense steeple
giga pad parse man couldnt beat it yesterday on his kill when his guild was actively trying to let him
lofty depot
They lost like 5% aoe
jade flume
giga pad parse man couldnt beat it yesterday on his kill when his guild was acti...
I might legit be weaker now than when we killed aeleria
on my discyp
random pasture
First time progging on Alleria for me tonight. Any tips and tricks worth mentioning?
lofty depot
Not really no, just watcha boomkin pov or look at a log and get the gist of what they're doing
livid jay
press barkskin or go bear when u get an arrow
hasty mirage
Can someone look and see if there are any obvious differences in these setups? I checked gear, talents, and simc build/hash and I haven't been able to find anything different. I know the ability log at the bottom is just a sample, but the second one is using 2nd incarn immediately after first incarn and seems to completely skip its 2nd convoke cast around 1m.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4HW86XfNEtEtVhGsXotXWC
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/uQiEbvDPvycK4ijrgo7Wgr
livid jay
well gear is different
hasty mirage
oh shoot the 276 ring...i mean it adds another hundred or whatever to the 2nd one
lofty depot
Early spring vs bot
livid jay
adn the belt
lofty depot
Which then means it's pressing trees early
And condition on convoke is have ca which it doesnt
dense steeple
Don't let them gaslight u
not gaslight, wowhead doesnt know how to do anything
the estimated intended nerf was 6-7%
they got closer to 9-10% nerf
blizzard dogshit at doing their job
because of the rip to world killer and also cucking catastrophe they lost more than what wowhead reports
lofty depot
That just means I do more damage than expected
dense steeple
because they do less damage than expected 
lofty depot
Well blame the wowhead guide writer
dense steeple
you know how this works this is on blizzard
lofty depot
Nhuh
lofty depot
Well maybe they should e waited to say what the nerf was til after it was impemented
dense steeple
wowhead clickbait article deadlines
all that being said when im on my druid; fuck the devourers idgaf about them
when i'm on my dh though; damn man how could blizzard do this to me i'm so weak now
speaking of wowhead though
pick one 
lofty depot
pick one <:kekw:838132597434875914>
50/50 reporting = views silly
livid jay
yea this wowhead boatload of articles dropping every day to generate clicks is so annoying
dense steeple
livid jay
couple years ago i looked at every post and most were at least kind of helpful
nowadays the news channel with the bot is muted
dense steeple
now when you try to find an article they posted 2 days ago you have to search through 8 pages of news
livid jay
yep
you read "lmao these nerfs" in guild general chat and have to scroll 2 pages through the news channel to find the post
dense steeple
my favorite is when a patch goes live
and they slam 3 articles back to back about the patch changes that just link to their other posts about the patch changes
like bro please stop you are worse than fucking yahoo news at this point
im more likely to get a good article out of kotaku than wowhead if i look for wow content now
livid jay
must suck to be under such pressure to pump out content that u have to do shit like this
dense steeple
according to my friends who write diablo articles
yes
"need more clicks, rev up the article factory"
lucid olive
pick one <:kekw:838132597434875914>
I wanna know what happens
If you get like
a couple thousand people
to all ask the bartender to create their own instance of the arcantina
Like how many people pressing that button at once is enough to crash the server
dense steeple
we've coordinated more for less we could figure this out
lofty depot
John Blizzard "please don't do that"
dense steeple
"we are aware of a DDoS on our servers and authentication might be delayed"
and its just us playing the game as they intended
clever wadi
is EC significantly behind Grove in ST?
clever wadi
I guess I'm counting stuff like vorasius/belo/lura as ST
lucid olive
playing EC on Lura sounds like a terrible time
lofty depot
Guess we have different definitions of st
lucid olive
on Beloren you can play it
round field
playing EC on Lura sounds like a terrible time
playing EC ~~on Lura ~~sounds like a terrible time
lucid olive
Vorasius you can play it as well, but you'll do less damage than someone playing KOTG and lining their CDs up for the adds
(the adds need to die in order to break the walls, and you won't wipe to missing boss dmg)
lofty depot
But what if the adds die to fast
lofty depot
livid jay
i usually have to hold back cause they die too fast 😄
lucid olive
sounds like a you issue
clever wadi
I mostly play UDK but wanted a ranged alt and EC boomie was my first choice, if I can do fine in raid with it and still do well in M+ with EC then I'm happy :D
round field
meteor storm is such a fake name compared to what it does
lofty depot
Smh padder
round field
should be called rain droplet or something
lucid olive
meteor storm is such a fake name compared to what it does
meteor storm isn't meteorites
round field
oh
lucid olive
meteor storm makes Starfall do full dmg in half the time
round field
thats the faster starfall right
round field
i mixed up
lucid olive
i agree that making 2 Starfall talent and then naming them Meteor Storm and Meteorites
round field
le talents
lucid olive
is begging for confusion
livid jay
i dont even know half the talents
they are all the same color same thing
all 0.5% dps increase
most do nothing gameplay wise
who tf cares
lofty depot
I mostly play UDK but wanted a ranged alt and EC boomie was my first choice, if ...
That's like choosing not rider unholy dk
livid jay
could just bake them into class and bring back old talent system
jovial sundial
i agree that making 2 Starfall talent and then naming them Meteor Storm and Mete...
Just throw in dev's meteor shower for the trifecta, even if its not on same class
clever wadi
That's like choosing not rider unholy dk
:( I see. I just don't really like the trees + and general vibes of Keeper, ty all for your answers!
lofty depot
"I don't like the horsey play style even if it's better"
dense steeple
im still unsure what can be fine even means in this case
lofty depot
"I don't like trees" it does quite literally the same thing. Foe does
dense steeple
yaeh butyou press it less
clever wadi
For UDK I'm just happy that I like both sanlayn and rider so whichever ends up being better I'm happy to play it :D
lofty depot
If u say u don't like the visuals then u don't care about the damage and it doesn't matter what u play
jovial sundial
I can understand not liking riders as someone who played fdk last tier
dense steeple
i jsut cant imagine being the best melee dps in the game and being like "i wanna play boomkin"
lofty depot
Thats not the same thing tho
lofty depot
For UDK I'm just happy that I like both sanlayn and rider so whichever ends up b...
Why don't u like trees
clever wadi
I think they look silly to me
lofty depot
Like I said
dense steeple
hate to break it to you but druid been using that tree model since forever
lofty depot
So u don't actually care about damage or gameplay
So why does it matter which one u play
Play what u want
clever wadi
Guys Im not insulting your class, I dont know where the hostility is coming from :(
It's okay I appreciate the input have a good day
lofty depot
Ur taking it as hostility it isnt
dense steeple
hes not being hostile hes being realistic
round field
lowkey u can barely see them anyways
lucid olive
Guys Im not insulting your class, I dont know where the hostility is coming from...
welcome to dreamgrove
don't take it personal
clever wadi
thats kinda sad
lucid olive
it's not hostility either
also there is no chance you came from DK discord to call this hostility or
@velvet oriole
lofty depot
Carebear ass dks never have to deal with hostility, u just press deaths advanced
dense steeple
the only time i notice my treants is when i notice i targeted somewhere stupid off screen and it didnt go on cd
clever wadi
You all have a good day
dense steeple
in my old age i cant see my cursor
lofty depot
There's an addon for that
lofty depot
Lol, I asked my mage if my trees bother him
jovial sundial
the only time i notice my treants is when i notice i targeted somewhere stupid o...
Last expac I started taking screenshots of everytime I accidently put treants in a weird spot
dense steeple
oh you mean like on a tree branch or a ledge right
lucid olive
Last expac I started taking screenshots of everytime I accidently put treants in...
i love putting treants on the archway before 2nd boss in Tirna Scithe
or on the roof of the 3rd boss in Halls of Atonement
jovial sundial
Just a delve but still
lofty depot
dense steeple
i just mean like i lost my mouse and i hit trees and it doesnt cast because its out of range or no path available
lofty depot
Guy has the DK pets, lock pets and my trees on top of him
dense steeple
i like his name
lucid olive
i just mean like i lost my mouse and i hit trees and it doesnt cast because its ...
do you not have a cursor circle or somethin
dense steeple
do you not have a cursor circle or somethin
no
lofty depot
Smh
dense steeple
because im in denial about being old so i wont rectify the problem
lofty depot
Just let it happen bud
copper gate
Real men play balance druid (studies back this up)
dense steeple
GanzUI(36)_final.v2(reallastupdate).5_finalfinal.zip
dense steeple
whats your ui look like tho
lucid olive
whats your ui look like tho
dense steeple
what about in raid what do your raid frames look like
lucid olive
just regular blacked out elvui raid frames
dense steeple
ew
lofty depot
It said GamzUI
lucid olive
idk just use colored frames if you want
lofty depot
It's not really what u think
dense steeple
no its the elv part i think is gross
lofty depot
Grow up
lucid olive
oh yeah the GamzUI addon is just bunch of random QoL stuff
pallid bay
i just mean like i lost my mouse and i hit trees and it doesnt cast because its ...
yolomouse..
lucid olive
no, that text is on there in AtrocityEssentials as well