for u
#balance
scenic mist
fair pasture
i knew that would be the response
fair pasture
craggy sonnet
👆
normal pilot
should update it with cyclone
and make sure your cyclone the boss in all your openers
lucid olive
hibernate is better
can put hibernate in APL to make number lower and doubt anyone would catch it
craggy sonnet
good luck. you should probably add all these items individually again in top gear. the bonus ids bug out because raidbots had issues back when it was made or something
normal pilot
wasn't there some embellish or effect that proc'd off casting cc like hibernate
loud kettle
wasn't there some embellish or effect that proc'd off casting cc like hibernate
it was a pvp embellishment yea
though it mightve only been interrupts
dont remember
celest rampart
what ilvl?
pseudo merlin
higher
celest rampart
so what 5/6 mythic or higher higher new scale
dense steeple
bro its a fucking 10 just grab one
pseudo merlin
nah you can't trust these tanks
drifting nova
bro its a fucking 10 just grab one
cant find 1 for my 8 smh
celest rampart
ok guys, this is legit the most dumb question I will possibly ever ask here
what nature damaege do we actually do
outside of wrath
pseudo merlin
everything but starfire and moonfire?
normal pilot
well damage type doesn't matter at all. but shrooms is nature
celest rampart
is astral nature?
normal pilot
you can just open any log and look at the colors
celest rampart
like starfall
pseudo merlin
astral is bothj
celest rampart
ohh ok
normal pilot
astral is nature or arcane, whichever is better
celest rampart
this ring could be big for us in m+ then no>
normal pilot
which ring
pseudo merlin
sporegar ring?
nova ocean
That ring should beat out double nexus set I'm guessing with ilvl increase
normal pilot
ya usually these have free procs like the set ring
so it's just free dps always good
lofty depot
dream surge is nature
lucid olive
keeper wins again
nova ocean
To bad the neck is healer proc would rather not farm mythic lura one
lucid olive
it doesn't really matter since you ahve sunfire
and there you go stomping on my dreams
gastank the buzzkill they call him
lofty depot
To bad the neck is healer proc would rather not farm mythic lura one
u can press regrowth
and or convoke proc it surely
nova ocean
U can but do u really want to be casting as many free ones as possible for the proc
I'll see if u can find it
lofty depot
well someone of us were doing that in manaforge
celest rampart
this ring could be really nice in m+
normal pilot
tiny bit of extra damage
celest rampart
think we can use rerolls in new raid?
nova ocean
Ya
lofty depot
then im op
pseudo merlin
yes you can bonus roll new raid (i made that up)
celest rampart
yes you can bonus roll new raid (i made that up)
thanks ill start saving as I can tell you are trustworthy
lofty depot
But nexus one of the rings has crap stats
?
no
silly frog thinks we only want haste mastery
nova ocean
I don't I just follow wat robot tells me
celest rampart
silly frog thinks we only want haste mastery
really we want vers (we dont)
nova ocean
But same time pins say no vers
lofty depot
what nexus point ring has vers
celest rampart
But same time pins say no vers
who ya gona trust, me or a silly pin
Gamz just doesnt want us pushing high keys
nova ocean
Ya
celest rampart
the effect is just extra
Ravec said 15% (he didnt)
nova ocean
I wish they would just put int on rings again man
pseudo merlin
nova ocean
Rings suck to upgrade
lofty depot
?
lucid olive
yeah im not gonna believe a sentence that starts with ravec said
lofty depot
rings are actively good to upgrade
nova ocean
It's fine u can have a bad opinion
lofty depot
ur opinion is wrong so
nova ocean
Nice try
lofty depot
people crafting bracer
proper mica
How much crit are yall at? I am at 28 before the ring enchants and it still wants more crit
lucid olive
i'm at whatever amount the sim tells me
lofty depot
How much crit are yall at? I am at 28 before the ring enchants and it still want...
about to be more
lofty depot
what enchants
proper mica
Don’t the ones that give like 1.25% crit not show on tool tip
lofty depot
well they give 2% now
proper mica
Ooo sick
normal pilot
tooltips are kind of bad
lofty depot
but its also crit dam
proper mica
I thought they did
proper mica
Oooo
It’s just so strong with the crit burn
Does the enchant increase crit damage then?
lofty depot
but its also crit dam
hmm
proper mica
That’s cool
pseudo merlin
yeah im not gonna believe a sentence that starts with ravec said
'Ravec said Gamz is a good bamkin player
sonic surge
yeah im not gonna believe a sentence that starts with ravec said
Most based thing said in this discord so far. Im so blessed to be blocked by him
lucid olive
Most based thing said in this discord so far. Im so blessed to be blocked by him
thats weird
he's a good guy, just not a knower
exotic perch
its a keeper fight
daring gull
bless
delicate perch
Most based thing said in this discord so far. Im so blessed to be blocked by him
@pseudo merlin
pseudo merlin
?
lyric kettle
you have a fan
If ravec has one million fans….
drifting nova
more fans than wow has subs, wow
dense steeple
@lofty depot this look right to you? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vqY33UgrXjSjcAC9NUEqVs
lucid olive
arent there leg boes
delicate perch
why are your boots 3/6
dense steeple
cause i could only afford 1/6 upgade last week
dense steeple
arent there leg boes
not worth
lucid olive
gg..
dense steeple
will wait for token drop
delicate perch
drifting nova
can blizz just release 14/16 vaults
or w/e they were going to do
but ended up not doing
lofty depot
why r ur gems crit haste
what the helly
wheres ur primary gem
the fuck we doing
craggy sonnet
soma ethical gaming with the pure st embell
jolly delta
Is the new patch coming in June or what
craggy sonnet
.7?
jolly delta
Ye
craggy sonnet
guess so
craggy sonnet
next season probably not before august
drifting nova
convinced I'm going to still have this champ wep by .1
drifting nova
what will i do
wanna do a key?
jolly delta
should be june 21st
not starting with turbulent timeways?
normal pilot
idk when's that line up
jolly delta
16th of June
normal pilot
oh maybe they are doing 7 week cycles then
drifting nova
what even is .7
craggy sonnet
speeding up the timeline .. gotta leave less time for qc
new 1 boss raid
flex mythic
normal pilot
er wait n/m idk why i thought 12.0.5 was on the 23rd
normal pilot
so ya, 16th would be 8 week cycle
drifting nova
tf is the use a of a flex raid so late in the patch
normal pilot
if that's when they have turbulent scheduled seems like it'll line up
craggy sonnet
tf is the use a of a flex raid so late in the patch
wdym? they just wanna test out the concept
drifting nova
new m+ rotation
maybe by then I'll get my war into a 10 
drifting nova
wdym? they just wanna test out the concept
which makes more sense in a new season but w./e
blizz knows best..I guess
craggy sonnet
they dont want to do it for anything race related
or main tier raid stuff
and probably wont until at least next xpac if at all
loud kettle
5 hunters wasn't enough, i need 10 in my raid
lucid olive
so ya, 16th would be 8 week cycle
Gotta factor in they want next main patch to be out and race be over before BlizzCon
lucid olive
Since they'll also do MDI at BlizzCon onstage again
delicate perch
i am sat on belo prog
@vital hound insane work
lucid olive
Yes
craggy sonnet
i feel like ive heard liquid folks didnt wanna get burned out
vital hound
<@126112819476168705> insane work
some people are so garf
lucid olive
Liquid has a team and several Echo folks are in teams
normal pilot
whens' blizzcon?
craggy sonnet
okay, guess it was fake news then
lucid olive
September 12
delicate perch
some people are so garf
craggy sonnet
wait what .. thats extremely tight
indigo ether
What's the proper build for Dragons? Im trialing in a guild and they have me on mythic dragon. This would be my first time on this boss.
craggy sonnet
14 days of prog
craggy sonnet
and then 1 week to prepare for mdi?
indigo ether
or should i just pad
drifting nova
time to give it another hour to get my alt in a 10,. here we go
craggy sonnet
i mean who is gonna compete in mdi then?
theres gonna be like 5 guilds finished with prog
that week
craggy sonnet
probably hardcore enough to raid 4 times a week or something until clear
craggy sonnet
just seems like awful timing wise again from blizz
wasnt there something messed up last summer as well
normal pilot
idk i doubt actual decision makers at blizz care about mdi stuff that much
keeping to production schedule is where the real job is
and blizzcon date was set well in advance so the boutique shit like mdi/etc will just have to work around it
craggy sonnet
i didnt see that there was a bluepost earlier
yeah, that makes sense then ok
i thought they would have to practice with s2 launch
or at least its not as bad
normal pilot
if you're one of the teams going to bcon you'd just ignore s2 and just keep practicing
since you're talking about tens of thousands diff for placement
craggy sonnet
yeah
i didnt see that it is just an extension
basically guaranteed money
is the s1 finals supposed to be tgp format already?
or is that reserved for blizzcon
unkempt tree
guys my bonus roll give my tier like first week on 12.0.5, its that normal?
inner pilot
i still improved on my hps from last week even with the nerfs! woahoo
digital berry
failed the gaze bonus roll three times in a row
so im getting it 100% next week
lmao this is just...
lofty depot
guys my bonus roll give my tier like first week on 12.0.5, its that normal?
those rolls didnt count towards the badluck protection
digital berry
Oh yeah they dont
jolly delta
failed the gaze bonus roll three times in a row
Brother in shit rolls
I rolled legs
Got two tokens back, was happy
Then rolled legs again
So in the end I just ended up being one week behind
drifting nova
are rolls 2 a week?
dense steeple
yes
drifting nova
so 4 this week?
dense steeple
so 4 this week?
its 2 a week
drifting nova
drifting nova
ok but if I didnt buy any this week
jolly delta
Reset is happening in a few hours
jolly delta
Then no
jolly delta
You can get 4+3
dense steeple
jolly delta
got the worst item from AA
Brother
Why are you spending rerolls
On hero track gear
jolly delta
dense steeple
vinter getting old cant read
jolly delta
Ok so then they're mythic
drifting nova
ye
jolly delta
How is this bad
drifting nova
who do think I am
dense steeple
he got the low roll upgrade instead of the high roll upgrade
drifting nova
I already had the 6/6 hero, basically the same as 1/6
jolly delta
he got the low roll upgrade instead of the high roll upgrade
He could've gotten no upgrade
jolly delta
I already had the 6/6 hero, basically the same as 1/6
Surely you have the crests to upgrade
jolly delta
kekkers I feel like doing some charity work. if tomorrow you need to get boosted in a +10 lmk
dense steeple
passenger princess
drifting nova
ok
drifting nova
kekkers I feel like doing some charity work. if tomorrow you need to get boosted...
never got my war into a 10 tho 
just release 16keys or w/e they did on beta
would fix 10s
jolly delta
passenger princess
the new upgrade thing is in a week right?
drifting nova
not a 100?
dense steeple
the new upgrade thing is in a week right?
yes
kindred token
Hi. Is there any guide on druid balance's basic movement?
dense steeple
yeah pool astral power a bit before a big move
jolly delta
Hi. Is there any guide on druid balance's basic movement?
Its mostly just saving AP for movement
And using wild charge
delicate perch
1 of 2
indigo ether
whats the non padding build for dragons
elder remnant
we are back at it
Gang gang
drifting nova
whats the non padding build for dragons
there isnt one, always pad
nimble tangle
dense steeple
whats the non padding build for dragons
lofty depot
killing the orbs isnt padding
dense steeple
every fight is a pad fight if youre brave enough
lofty depot
grow up
dense steeple
oh my bad g
dense steeple
were oyu even gonna send me some
dense steeple
they dont all have to die
drifting nova
swear we had this exact scenario in nerubar
you dont kill the boss without X add dying
drifting nova
they dont all have to die <:garf:1182703292313255946>
realistically none have to if you have healers with hands
frank scaffold
guys, can you recommend any nice video guide for mythic dps that's updated? I'm trash!
and I don't get how I'm that bad
drifting nova
I have questions
lofty depot
read the guide, record ur game play, go hit a dummy, reread guide while watching game play, repeat 3 times. go log some raid kills so i can show u what ur doing wrong
drifting nova
how do you magically get to mythic raid and realise you cant do damage
is my first question
lofty depot
how do you magically get to mythic raid and realise you cant do damage
@dense steeple please answer
u should know
drifting nova
like surely the signs were there in heroic
lofty depot
were oyu even gonna send me some
also how am i gona send u some... THROUGH THE MAIL?!??!?!
atf hello
desert imp
Anyone using Exwinds here? for last two days the addon keep shouting in chinese even though i have the english addon installed. Any idea how to fix this (i have deleted and reinstalled a couple of times).
drifting nova
F to your pc
lofty depot
Anyone using Exwinds here? for last two days the addon keep shouting in chinese ...
the addon is buggy
drifting nova
surely at this point the crusade against addons' worst part is
they might work today
they might not
50/50
desert imp
dense steeple
how do you magically get to mythic raid and realise you cant do damage
autism, next question
dense steeple
also how am i gona send u some... THROUGH THE MAIL?!??!?!
yes
its alcohol man slap an ole smokey label on it and send it on its way
lofty depot
its alcohol man slap an ole smokey label on it and send it on its way
i will not be buying that slop
drifting nova
autism, next question
me or you?
delicate perch
both
lofty depot
yea
analog pier
when playing Elunes chosen in m+ do we need to swap targets to fury of elune or can we beam the same target twice to get double benefits
Except for the debuff, does everything else double? I.e damage and power generation
lofty depot
no it doesnt double debuff
analog pier
Gotcha. Thanks! That means it’s better
To swap and beam so more than 1 target gets the debuff ya?
daring gull
we made it gang. grey parse CE hype
indigo ether
too late
I didnt take meteors
should have though cause no one in the guild was sending on the adds
Guild full of "ethical" players
lofty depot
Gotcha. Thanks! That means it’s better
To swap and beam so more than 1 target ge...
uhhh
what are u specifically talking about
river stirrup
anyone know what this addon is and how to move (or remove) the bars?
copper gate
anyone know what secondary stat the hunt embellishment gives on L'ura
lofty depot
vers
lofty depot
copy=vers
midnight.darkmoon_hunt_race=undead
u can sim it using that line if u want.. i think its usually random buffs
drifting nova
getting mh/oh in vault should be a crime
tardy hare
getting mh/oh in vault should be a crime
I agree. Fun to see that Chimaerus offhand every week in raid slot.
plus I have 50% chance to get it from reroll this reset...
Already gotten belt and chest
drifting nova
got the MT dagger atleast, could be worse
delicate perch
drifting nova
sure the offhand is still champ but
half myth
..and now my tmog doesnt work
the technology is coming
edgy quarry
anyone know what this addon is and how to move (or remove) the bars?
Edwind maybe ??
royal zenith
Exwind would be my guess too
jolly delta
anyone know what this addon is and how to move (or remove) the bars?
Targeted spells
Or exwind
drifting nova
Edwind maybe ??
whats vancleef doing these days?
edgy quarry
oh wow i got the ref xD
winged moss
patchwerk 4 targets https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/46fUWwedP4L31TkC5oRfy1
i know d slice isnt functioning good
But what should I take? which trinkets?
for m+
pine steeple
Heyho im new to Balance druid and the guides always say sim urself and i will do it but can i get sum numbers of the stats i should have for RAID/ m+ haste/mastery/crit
winged moss
feather + heart or charm and feaTHER
analog pier
uhhh
wanted to ask if we do stack fury of elune casts on different targets or we cast it after the one from the proc finishes
wise hare
Heyho im new to Balance druid and the guides always say sim urself and i will do...
no you cant really you are just supposed to sim your stuff
you really dont change your gear going from raid to m+ besides maybe trinkets
and most of the time ilvl is just gonna win over stats anyway for the beginning
livid jay
wanted to ask if we do stack fury of elune casts on different targets or we cast...
Fury of elune is aoe damage. Everything it hits gets the debuff, no need to swap targets. Unless you are fighting two packs at the same time in two different places i guess
winged moss
feather + heart or charm and feaTHER
nyone?
livid jay
raidbots will help you
sly iris
hey guys, what is that buff you got from shifting to bear for ~6 second that made u more tankier? is that gone now ? i forget what it was called
sly iris
omfg yes thank you
was driving me nuts i couldnt find or remember name
was playing last expasion not even that long ago but getting back on now , i feel newborn, cant remember anything or somthing is changed completely lol
livid jay
well, eclipse is completely different ye
royal zenith
like a whole new universe
slate bear
when raiding, what is the order of the cooldowns? i understand u start eclipse, then incarn
but when do u incarn again after that?
fossil hemlock
when raiding, what is the order of the cooldowns? i understand u start eclipse, ...
It depends on the fight you're doing but generally speaking you don't eclipse before cooldowns in raid
ruby badger
but when do u incarn again after that?
Just check the wowhead guide, will just be whatever our answer is
ruby badger
^ and that's what you can do for fight specific stuff
glad helm
Hello everyone. This might sound like a stupid question, but can sims sometimes bait you into the wrong choice?
I just opened my vault and... THEORETICALLY I know what to choose but I simmed 2 different specs and it gives me 2 different results and I'm not sure if I should trust it or not
jaunty blaze
Maybe link the sim
glad helm
Sure
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/as8cuy1ErEjr2x5Zx7FDmC Sim 1 with my M+ spec
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j71MgVj1uJJdgQoF8zMngd Sim 2 with my raid/pve spec
Now I can choose between Heroic trinket, but it's literally my bis (not getting mythic one anytime soon lol) or either legs or chest from set on mythic track
I was suuuuure trinket is always the best option but... wtf
vivid light
I got the choice between hero to myth tier chest, and myth gaze. Didnt even bother simming as I dont have a gaze lol
royal zenith
It's literally not your bis, cause that would be the mythic version..
glad helm
Got Hc gaze from vault last week. I got both bis trinkets in a row LOL
royal zenith
(Im jesting)
glad helm
someone is watching from above
jaunty blaze
You should at least do the raid on hc first tho before picking it
royal zenith
^
glad helm
It's literally not your bis, cause that would be the mythic version..
It's my bis if I will never get into mythic raid xdddddd
royal zenith
grabbing items is always a matter of "is it easy for me to get this item through other means"
glad helm
You should at least do the raid on hc first tho before picking it
absolutely a fair point
royal zenith
if the answer is no, you probably take from vault
glad helm
but let's say I don't drop shit
glad helm
also I just realized, I didn't upgrade the ilv of trinket
'cause I can upgrade it for free
maybe that changes something
royal zenith
yeah it might
vivid light
I would say at the point where it is a 200 dps increase on paper in an aoe sim to take chest, and 2k on single target sim I would say trinket always wins
ruby badger
Are you raiding in a guild or just puggingf
vivid light
But I get the point of chest winning in aoe might cause some uncertainty. But I am also jsut getting back into the whole boomie thing 😄
jaunty blaze
I mean the trinket is the best you can get this season and even lower versions beat almost all other myth trinkets
round field
vaulting chest over trinket is definitely a choice
considering how easy it is to get a myth chest this season
glad helm
Are you raiding in a guild or just puggingf
I recently applied for a 4/9 M guild, not sure if I get in yet
so pug for now
ruby badger
I'd probably just take the trinket, can get many myth leather chests from vault / bonus rolls, can only get 1 vaelgors
jaunty blaze
jolly delta
how did we even end up in such a situation bonus rolls are a farce 
fossil hemlock
how did we even end up in such a situation bonus rolls are a farce <a:catscream:...
I have an NPX ring in vault I can't take because I would want to bonus roll the place for the other ring and risk getting the one I have in vault
analog pier
Fury of elune is aoe damage. Everything it hits gets the debuff, no need to swap...
Thanks! If we stack casts does it give us double the power generation?
fossil hemlock
It's a decent system but holy hell does it have some obvious gaps in design
livid jay
Thanks! If we stack casts does it give us double the power generation?
yea
wait
yea i think so
with stack casts u mean cast manually on a target that has fury from moonfire proc
analog pier
Got it! Thanks!
analog pier
with stack casts u mean cast manually on a target that has fury from moonfire pr...
Yeah
Was overthinking that bit on swapping targets
ruby badger
I believe it's in EC
sudden flame
I have an NPX ring in vault I can't take because I would want to bonus roll the ...
I mean the vault for dungeon loot litterally does not matter with voidcores
fossil hemlock
I mean the vault for dungeon loot litterally does not matter with voidcores
Yeah, bit sad
livid jay
the one in hero tree and firmament
oh thats why i couldnt find it, they are both choice nodes and the dreamgrove ec m+ build plays none of them 😄
vital heart
Does shape shifting break plunge grip pick up in pit of saron?
sudden flame
is that the gargoyle one
vital heart
Yes
sudden flame
then yes
sudden flame
ye shapeshifting breaks you out of that
hexed warren
Any way to sim fully stacked ribbon trinket? I want to know which trinket is better for beloren egg phase
quartz void
Which one would you guys take? Cloak sims the highest with 170 dps over recrafting cloak to better stats but the weapon is endgame bis no?
jolly delta
Any way to sim fully stacked ribbon trinket? I want to know which trinket is bet...
Not in a simple way.
lone turret
how much trinkets? All
jolly delta
Any way to sim fully stacked ribbon trinket? I want to know which trinket is bet...
You can try pasting this in the "Custom APL" box: https://hastebin.ianhon.com/9163
Should work
It will cast only wrath until you have 10 stacks and then proceed with the normal APL
there's a bloodlust start time at the top that is hardcoded (bloodlust_time=140), you can try to adjust it if you see that it's pressed too early/too late
hexed warren
Alright ty, will try 😄
jolly delta
Its not ideal because you're still factoring the first ~2m of the fight into the dps calculation
hexed warren
Yeah but we are holding dmg anyway in end of p1 and p2 and only missing like 4% on egg
but with 10sec extra proabably wont be a problem anyway
jolly delta
Yeah but we are holding dmg anyway in end of p1 and p2 and only missing like 4% ...
Yes sure but the sim doesnt know about this so it's gonna be skewed towards passive trinkets that buff 2m of wrath regardless
lucid olive
Just override buff
craggy sonnet
i havent tried .. but cant you use
override.precombat_state=buff.<name>.stack=<buff_stacks>
with deepening_temptation
lucid olive
jolly delta
It didnt seem to work, maybe I was doing something wrong
lucid olive
you can also do a 2 hour fight timer sim
between gaze and ribbon
and the sim will have spent enough time at max ribbon stacks that the result will reflect which effect is better
jolly delta
It didnt seem to work, maybe I was doing something wrong
Ok yes was human error
lucid olive
but you wouldnt even be at max stacks for first egg, right?
ye
round field
you can also do a 2 hour fight timer sim
name it the rextroy solo sim
craggy sonnet
so looking at pretty much half stacks for first and roughly full stacks for 2nd
would be fun to see the results i guess
void jacinth
name it the rextroy solo sim
how do i actually add the npc paladins to my sim
void jacinth
yes u played The Sims
round field
wrong actually
void jacinth
@lucid olive this guy is actin up
lucid olive
ok
livid jay
is this the norwegian alliance vs iqnious or what
livid jay
thats for sure a word yep
lucid olive
DG is lowkey a meritocracy right
no
void jacinth
anarchy?
lucid olive
maybe it used to be once upon a time
its not anarchy either
closer to a dictatorship
but not that either
void jacinth
monarchy?
jolly delta
closer to a dictatorship
it's always Deux....
livid jay
whats the political system where nobody can be arsed and the people who can be arsed the most and have a slight clue get the job
void jacinth
would xanzara be God in this hierarchy
lucid olive
maybe it's more of a oligarchy with origins in capitalism
they used to put in an effort but now they're all old, jaded, complacent and tired
void jacinth
it's always Deux....
that would be a dicktatorship
livid jay
sheesh
void jacinth
they used to put in an effort but now they're all old, jaded, complacent and tir...
all i know is i didnt vote for you as green name tc but you got it on MERIT
lucid olive
green name is not having power
livid jay
green name is working class
lucid olive
it's like a puppet role
livid jay
unpaid
round field
slavery role
void jacinth
ah you are merely puppet
round field
lowkey
lucid olive
my power is influence over the white names
round field
u have no influence over me
livid jay
literally an influencer
lucid olive
but unless you use that power to throw the oligarchs it's worthless
craggy sonnet
green name just funnels the white names into your dms
lucid olive
my DMs are not a safe space
lucid olive
3
lucid olive
yeah then 1 day during farm and until new raid content
lofty depot
my DMs are not a safe space
Sure they are
lucid olive
maybe we add an extra day if we giga throw a reclear and someone wants to kill boss for mount or achievement they havent got
void jacinth
some 2 days and 3 days both raid like 8 hours a week right?
lofty depot
White names think gamz is a savant, little do they know
He just spams me with GTA rp pictures
lucid olive
some 2 days and 3 days both raid like 8 hours a week right?
idk what other guilds do, i haven't been looking at other guilds for almost 2 years
vital hound
some 2 days and 3 days both raid like 8 hours a week right?
most 2 days are 7
lofty depot
some 2 days and 3 days both raid like 8 hours a week right?
Uhh 2 days are usually 6, maybe. 8 sometimes.... 3 days are 9-12
lucid olive
we do 3x 3 and a half hour raids
lofty depot
Ye some are like that
lucid olive
4x 3 and a half hour on first 2-3 weeks of a tier
vital hound
ya 3.5 slots seems to be most common
lucid olive
from 8pm to 11:30pm
vital hound
yep
safe kite
Does anyone use Rampant Abandon? it's currently siming significantly higher for me but I have no idea how bad the void zone you spawn is and if it's griefing the raid or if it's fine.
lucid olive
no
lucid olive
that's tech for reclear
round field
whats a rampant abandon
lucid olive
potion that spawns a silence zone under you
lofty depot
Might tech it for lura
lucid olive
but gives more stats than light potential
lofty depot
10% more mmhm mhmm
lofty depot
No
round field
drop a silence zone on someone
safe kite
Can i silence other people in my raid? If so it sounds increadibly worth it.
safe kite
aww
ruby badger
does it work on other people
This being your initial reaction is insanity
round field
safe kite
Griefing the raid is fine if it's funny
round field
what did i do
round field
This being your initial reaction is insanity
ive done worse things tbh
royal zenith
:clasi
royal zenith
potion that spawns a silence zone under you
this potion is funny btw
I used it on my monk during birb during a pug
and I was like the fuck am Igetting silenced
(it's not that big of a deal if you know what it looks like btw)
lofty depot
Griefing the raid is fine if it's funny
It's funny if u troll a DK with ursol on rekill, it's not funny to wipe the raid on prog with a silence pot (if that was a thing)
safe kite
I mean mostly it's not gonna be a wipe, just someone crying about their logs to be fair
lofty depot
No one cries about prog logs surely
round field
It's funny if u troll a DK with ursol on rekill, it's not funny to wipe the raid...
wrong
round field
No one cries about prog logs surely
also wrong
lofty depot
Unless it was me and I missed r1 by 1k dps
safe kite
exactly
plucky valley
Can we have emoji reacts back? I wanna pregnant man emoji to everything Arctic types
safe kite
There is always one guy on every pull claiming he had a top 3 pull.
lofty depot
Top 3 who cares
sudden flame
plucky valley
Damn. Well I tried
round field
Damn. Well I tried
just do this 🫃
royal zenith
just respond to his msg
safe kite
Top 3 who cares
Got to pretend to be humble
ruby badger
vital hound
No one cries about prog logs surely
if boss dies you did good
plucky valley
Top 3 who cares
🫃
sudden flame
No one cries about prog logs surely
what if i get a zero on my permanent record
royal zenith
the classic is always "if we would've killed this boss person x wouldve gotten a 100 log"
cause it was right after popping cooldowns..
safe kite
yeee
vital hound
what if i get a zero on my permanent record
first funny thing ive read here in a minute
safe kite
45 second wipe
lofty depot
what if i get a zero on my permanent record
Blame ur class like all the other ferals
safe kite
"Holy shit i am 80k dps over rank 1"
sudden flame
lofty depot
sudden flame
round field
i had multiple rank 1 pulls on tindral but my fat chud guild couldnt run over mushrooms
sudden flame
safe kite
i had multiple rank 1 pulls on tindral but my fat chud guild couldnt run over mu...
had a rank 1 on Fractillius for about 15 minutes because it's the only boss where not even my guild could let me down.
vital hound
safe kite
Is that a spoon in purple soup?
lucid olive
no it's someone pouring egg yolk into a bowl
lofty depot
Why is bluds game on bright mode
lucid olive
plays with HDR
jolly delta
no its someone pissing in a toilet
round field
but
jolly delta
plays with HDR
this
safe kite
Why is bluds game on bright mode
4k ultrawide, 52 inch monitor kind of gamer.
round field
why do hdr screenshots look so disgustsing
lucid olive
arctic too broke to know screen recording HDR washes out the game
round field
what is wrong with that
jolly delta
because window pumps the screen luminosity and then the monitor balances the colors
round field
every time soma posts dps meters i get eye candy
jolly delta
or smth
round field
that stupid
earnest nova
is it viable to use stare + feather?
craggy sonnet
why do hdr screenshots look so disgustsing
because your shitter monitor cant handle the color info
safe kite
If you can't raid in 3:4 you're using techincal doping
eager raft
💀
craggy sonnet
rtx is indeed marketing .. seeing as it is the current gpu brand nvidia runs with
vital hound
arctic too broke to know screen recording HDR washes out the game
imagine raiding without raytracing
craggy sonnet
but yea, dont think either of the actual technologies are scam .. just the implementation you are being sold may not be worth
round field
thats what a scam is
fossil hemlock
Raytracing is very cool but often overhyped
Actually almost exclusively overhyped
craggy sonnet
idk .. feels like your fault if you buy a hdr 10 monitor expecting anything
doesnt mean you'd wanna miss out on hdr 1000 on your big screen tv
royal zenith
Imagine you start playing balance druid cause you think it's epic and all
and then you realize what kind of APL they have..
it's basically the same
!
royal zenith
I don't think you can really blame people with believing marketing schemes/tactics, as they are literally designed to misguide people
(I would know, I do performance marketing)
lofty depot
What is performance marketing
royal zenith
and emphasize the good parts
round field
ah so a con artist
lofty depot
Sounds like u added a word to marketing to sound more important
royal zenith
What is performance marketing
you put money in ads, you get roas or roi
round field
basically ur evil
royal zenith
roas / roi = performance
craggy sonnet
fair. i just wanted to say that the technologies arent bad just cause there is bad marketing for them
royal zenith
simpler explanation is just online advertising and making sure they generate profits @lofty depot
but Im more of a T-shaped marketeer...
lofty depot
Wouldn't that be accounting :/
craggy sonnet
also btw .. @jolly delta
craggy sonnet
be smart
royal zenith
or meta (facebook/instagram) ads
royal zenith
marketer and marketeer are 2 extremely different things
craggy sonnet
t-shaped?
royal zenith
yeah like broad knowledge of a lot of subjects but specialized in specific parts
craggy sonnet
aight
lofty depot
Suppose I'm an estimator but end up being a project lead, office manager, and collections sometimes
royal zenith
dunno if you work for a smaller/medium sized company
cause then it would be normal ye
muted citrus
get a new job
livid jay
hdr is just a marketing scam
not true btw
muted citrus
anything plus collections/ar even is just horrendous
royal zenith
collections is terrible
round field
not true btw
wrong
royal zenith
actually all of those roles are terrible
livid jay
also btw .. <@124935035412414475>
works but not always
muted citrus
ya and it just makes it sound like you work for a family company you're not related to
idk giving awful vibes
lofty depot
anything plus collections/ar even is just horrendous
Collections do be the worst of it
muted citrus
common nance W
round field
no
craggy sonnet
works but not always
how do these screenshots look on your own monitor btw?
are they also off? getting doubly processed, or?
royal zenith
they're purple on his screen
round field
my balls are purple too..
muted citrus
.
livid jay
how do these screenshots look on your own monitor btw?
they are also off ye
royal zenith
yea but nobody wants those on their screen iqni
livid jay
the screenshot software cant comprehend the hdr signal while turning it into an sdr screenshot
livid jay
but my pc displays sdr content properly
round field
snipping tool is goated
livid jay
so it just looks like it looks on yours basically
delicate perch
every time soma posts dps meters i get eye candy
thats just because he sucks though
craggy sonnet
default windows snipping tool user??
its not my screenshot
taken from reddit or something
but yes
lucid olive
snipping tool is goated
i bet your local electronic shop still sell CRT
craggy sonnet
idk what do be wrong with snipping tool
royal zenith
he plays wow on his ngage
livid jay
default windows snipping tool user??
i wish we had win+shift+s at work
muted citrus
i bet your local electronic shop still sell CRT
no one is this lucky
livid jay
always need to type sni in search to open snipping tool
royal zenith
type sni
royal zenith
also I think it has a setting for hdr or
craggy sonnet
also btw .. <@124935035412414475>
its what i posted ye
livid jay
win key + shift + S
read my message 2 minutes earlier 😄
livid jay
doesnt do anything
delicate perch
severe hollow
read my message 2 minutes earlier 😄
have you tried windows button shift s?
craggy sonnet
type sni
round field
i bet your local electronic shop still sell CRT
jokes on u
electricity still wasnt invented in my country
void jacinth
isnt*
lucid olive
won't
void jacinth
cant
livid jay
type sni
livid jay
remember to show them my rank 1 sarkareth boss damage on patch day
im still proud of this one
royal zenith
you amongst the WHO's?
livid jay
exactly
royal zenith
I wish I had this need/want to be top logger like you guys
unreal stratus
Hey everyone ! My girlfriend is a Balance player but struggle in some keys to have a good dps. We're at the 15/16 range. Sometimes she can perform well in keys like 12/13 but recently her performance as dropped drastically. I'm not a Boomie expert and can't say what she's doing wrong.
Here's a replay of our last key where she had gray parses : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wgt8gBLE9LQ
The log : https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wXf4qztryFbgNjRG?fight=last
her char : https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/fr-fr/character/eu/eldrethalas/pauleth/
She's playing with "Rattle of the stars" talent instead of "Starweaver" because she's not confident with the "starweaver" talent procs.
On big thing to consider is that she's stressed out on these kind of keys (could be why she's underperforming)
craggy sonnet
@lucid olive with video .. thats one for you
royal zenith
It's not even that bad, looking at the timeline of casts
what are you comparing her performance to @unreal stratus
other moonkins or other classes?
ruby badger
First pull looks mostly fine, it's just a giga small pull for skyreach really
royal zenith
defeating stress just comes with getting reps in
ruby badger
It's hard to say when she should press incarn again but I probably would've saved it for this instead of pull 2
Scarier pull and more mobs
lofty depot
Random tidbit of not knowing the dungeon or tank being a puss. But the 2 pulls are small and then she sends incarn at the back half of it. Then when u get to platform u have nothing
ruby badger
I would only ever send incarn partially into a pull if it's a DPS race of "if we let this pack live too long, we will wipe"
lofty depot
But yea u generally prefer incarn there
unreal stratus
defeating stress just comes with getting reps in
We're just looking at key parses almost everytime
ruby badger
well in 15s I usually get people pulling the entire bottom platform
royal zenith
these guys are right though
if the route is also just pretty shit for a boomkin, you'll get mediocre results
unreal stratus
I'm the tank here and new to tanking so... I'll ask also in the Monk discord xD
royal zenith
LOL
ruby badger
On the boss pull she just rips incarn at 60AP
She has 2 Eclipse charges, 1 incarn charge, should always send the eclipse charge first there to reduce eclipse downtime
lofty depot
God rattle logs are so boring man
craggy sonnet
something you could look to improve from the first few minutes tho .. is pressing eclipse even when you set up pulls to incarn
first ecl was pressed 1:20 into the key
ruby badger
Does she speak english? we're a woke channel so she won't get discriminated against for non-gameplay reasons
lofty depot
Unless she french
craggy sonnet
and the next a minute later
unreal stratus
She's reading your advice next to me rn ^^
ruby badger
A big thing of Balance damage is minimizing eclipse downtime, if it's ever at 2 charges and a pull is starting, the only reason not to press it is:
You want to build more AP before pressing it
You have 2 incarn charges
lofty depot
I actually within reason don't prefer that explanation anymore
craggy sonnet
even if you have two incarn charges
lofty depot
Rather than minimizing downtime
craggy sonnet
it is almost always correct to press ecl into incarn
royal zenith
send your lunar bolts on every new pull smh
lofty depot
U should be maximizing your time in eclipse/incarn
royal zenith
feels good...
craggy sonnet
U should be maximizing your time in eclipse/incarn
you know thats the same thing, hey?
lofty depot
It's not
pallid bay
ABC press CA beginning of pull, sync with trinket
craggy sonnet
minimize downtime =/= maximize uptime?
lofty depot
It's also not maximizing uptime
craggy sonnet
oh ok
ruby badger
She needs boss timers as well
lofty depot
Correct
Pressing incarn willy nilly and thinking ur gonna do damage on 10 mobs
Then the next pull has 40 mobs and ur doing nothing
craggy sonnet
but yeah .. 4 minutes into the key .. you probably already lost at least 3-4 eclipses
pallid bay
CD on CD unless you know when not to
craggy sonnet
sitting on full charges
unreal stratus
She needs boss timers as well
yeah boss timer was off since last update, we don't know why
lofty depot
Well sure, but that's the learning part
And what sune said, generally u send cuz u don't know better
Which is better than not sending at all
ruby badger
It's a lot to take in so some shorter points are:
- Incarn should only be used if you'll get the full duration of it
- Eclipse is the same, you can afford losing a small portion of it, but most of an eclipse should be spent hitting stuff
- Be at max AP before hitting either
- Try to use Incarn on juiciest pulls without letting it sit at 2 charges
- Eclipse should not sit at 2 charges for very long
pallid bay
is feather good for EC m+
lofty depot
2m always unfun no?
pallid bay
oh its even 2m
lofty depot
Ye :/
royal zenith
it's okay-ish for EC
lofty depot
I don't think haste is particularly good tho
pallid bay
its prob fine anyway but u wont peak like vaelgor
lofty depot
I should look to see if the gamers are doing the AOE opener or still just sending incarn like normal
unreal stratus
thanks a lot for all the answers
craggy sonnet
just looking at first boss, also refhresed dots at like half duration a few times
once during incarn even
lucid olive
is feather good for EC m+
You can cancelaura some of the punishments from Feather apparently
unless they fixed it
drifting stump
hey guys, normaly im tank but for dragon myth i probely have to switch to dd. i like EC more
moon/sun fire on both dragon
sunfire on smal orbs into starfall i guess?
and then normal single target prio?
lofty depot
U don't dot the orbs no
ruby badger
thanks a lot for all the answers
Also if she's not in eclipse and it's single target, she should press Wrath
unreal stratus
just looking at first boss, also refhresed dots at like half duration a few time...
yeah that's a knowned issue, when she move she tend to refresh dots 😄
unreal stratus
Also if she's not in eclipse and it's single target, she should press Wrath
Even in Elune chosen ?
lucid olive
Even in Elune chosen ?
yes
ruby badger
yepyep
drifting stump
starfall all the time?
craggy sonnet
yeah that's a knowned issue, when she move she tend to refresh dots 😄
yeah, common thing. just wanted to point it out
lofty depot
On 2t yes
craggy sonnet
(in m+/aoe talents)
pallid bay
yeah that's a knowned issue, when she move she tend to refresh dots 😄
there's honestly just a lot of movement, a lot of pressing starfall without enough AP
unreal stratus
Okay so wrath when not in eclipse + 1T
ruby badger
You can min max that point more, but she has more fundamental issues to fix first
craggy sonnet
there's honestly just a lot of movement, a lot of pressing starfall without enou...
true .. its just a bit hectic.
pallid bay
this is like 2 seconds of not pressing a damage button
craggy sonnet
not being aware of ap because a bit of panic is involved
drifting stump
okay thx a lot
unreal stratus
there's honestly just a lot of movement, a lot of pressing starfall without enou...
The biggest thing is about the starfall use, should she have more AP ?
royal zenith
dw guys we can always blame the tank.. >:)
lucid olive
looking at the instant Starfire proc and wondering when its gonna be pressed
oh it ran out
craggy sonnet
wild charge good
royal zenith
The biggest thing is about the starfall use, should she have more AP ?
need to plant, cast, spend and pool for movement / inside cooldowns
perma
all the time