balance

[lucid olive]

Archon data is good for what its use case and target audience is

[royal zenith]

I dunno how much of archon’s aggregated data is correct anyway

[vital heart]

What's the use case

[royal zenith]

1200 mastery is a fuckton

[lucid olive]

If you take the effort to ask in a class discord about the data then you're already better than their target audience

[vital heart]

[craggy sonnet]

Funny thing, if more people were to sim instead of blind following some random stat prio, the data would become a better reference

[royal zenith]

Most boomies (that are doing decent content) in raid have balanced stats crit/mas/hastr

And its only really m+ that do weird shit

[lucid olive]

m+ers and feelycrafting

[craggy sonnet]

(though ofc still skewed by whatever gear one is able to acquire early on)

[royal zenith]

Hence why around 600 crit is normal

[lucid olive]

looks more accurate if you filter Beloren or L'ura

[royal zenith]

Cause 800 to 900 is usally top end

[lucid olive]

since those logs aren't polluted by people who craft mastery/haste without a care in the world

[lofty depot]

U saying wr 400 people don't care 👀

[lucid olive]

there's nothing wrong about crafting mastery/haste or wearing items that sim worse though, whatever floats your boat

[vital heart]

Having higher haste feels so good though

[lucid olive]

wear higher haste then

[lofty depot]

Feels good the worse u are

Mmhm mmhm

[lucid olive]

sims are a guideline

you can sacrifice some dmg for more fun

but sims are the most accurate source for gearing when it comes to your own character

[lofty depot]

Convoke better than incarn if youre shit at casting

[craggy sonnet]

Crazy how much you can "fix" your stats with choosing a flask this season

[lucid olive]

its always been that way no

[vital heart]

Not saying I'm going higher haste, I just love when the meta calls for more haste is all

[lucid olive]

gems and flasks exist to fix stat distributions

[quiet drift]

when the meta calls

[royal zenith]

The problem is never stats itself but just making up random arguments to stack a stat

[craggy sonnet]

Hm maybe

[lucid olive]

ye

[quiet drift]

i answer

[lucid olive]

but people also love getting fed random reasons why something is better

because "it does more dam" and "sims better" isnt cutting it for most people

[craggy sonnet]

Guess it's a bit recency bias cause the relative value dilutes further in the xpac

[royal zenith]

Thats why its better to ask questions like “hey what does mastery do for balance druid”

Instead of asking about values/amount

[lucid olive]

Been a lot of times someone comes in here and asks like "why this talent instead of this" and even though you know the best answer is "idk it sims better" you still kinda need to give them another reason or they either won't accept the answer or they think you're just being dismissive of their question

[lofty depot]

Gamz playing sotf on lura cuz he's shit at casting

Mmmhm mmhm

[lucid olive]

I stopped taking it after I stopped playing Incarn

I think it's unironically good with Incarn

[lofty depot]

So is wild mushroom 🙂

Today even better

Might take off meteorites tho... Trying to convince myself :/

[lucid olive]

i'm giving it a couple pulls tomorrow before i take off meteor storm

need to see if devourer nerf did anything for us

[royal zenith]

Why are you even running meteorites on lira

Lura

[lofty depot]

Does damage

[royal zenith]

For the adds that live 3seconds?

[lofty depot]

No

[lucid olive]

meteorites is an st talent

[lofty depot]

It does damage or lura

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/bMhXutCrh5x97nNT5AuPLX

[lofty depot]

Also those adds don't live 3 seconds

Grow up

[lucid olive]

talent sim where the only Starfall talent locked is Meteor Storm

cause pretty much everybody playing that for p1 Crystal dmg

[lofty depot]

Yea make all the other classes drop tapents

[royal zenith]

I dont think its about growing up

[lofty depot]

We have a fire mage :/

[royal zenith]

If you communicate mostly ST builds that never pick meteorites

just trying to understand the logic

[lofty depot]

I be casting starfall

[lofty depot]

Those starfalls be hitting boss

[vital heart]

Is there a resource or somewhere I can be pointed to for talent build recommendations per raid boss?

[royal zenith]

wowhead ahead of dreamgrove again

[lofty depot]

Warcraftlogs

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/druid/balance/midnight-season-1-raid-tips

[vital heart]

hells yeah, ty

[royal zenith]

when did we find out about meteorites

in this type of build

[quiet drift]

When you look at a log

and meteorites is doing 3%+

[lofty depot]

I mean it was good before

I played it on cosmos

[lucid olive]

meteorites been played as a ST talent entire season i think

[quiet drift]

Its way better now

[royal zenith]

the fuck

[lucid olive]

people started using it more and more

[royal zenith]

okay you are just making things up or Ive entered a new timeline

which is fine

[lofty depot]

Sunseeker mushrooms was doing 70% of it's total damage in p1

[lofty depot]

Not paying attention

[quiet drift]

But sunseeker also generates 20ap per proc in that fight

[lofty depot]

Yea but I cba

[ruby badger]

I usually just find boomys in good guilds and copy them, ideally ones I can bug with questions

[lofty depot]

I r1 ezpz

[lucid olive]

eeeh idk, moonkin talents have been hard to follow for the expansion in general

too many talents

[lofty depot]

Innovation

[royal zenith]

no I have, I look at tons of logs

this was/has been the go-to

[lofty depot]

I disagree but sure

[royal zenith]

(which is also the code I imported from dreamgrove)

[lucid olive]

I think stuff changed with the Starfall buff

[royal zenith]

Im just stating facts, not opinions

if it has changed It's fine by me

[lofty depot]

U play meteor storm on more bosses than u play NB

[lucid olive]

tbh

Starfall buff and pressing it on Cosmos procs helped it along

[lofty depot]

And then a lot of people have stopped using foe

[royal zenith]

yeah all good and all

but I'm talking about the source(s) of information and timeline

[lucid olive]

sure

I think a bunch of people are getting baited by Meteor Storm and Wild Mushroom on some bosses as well

[royal zenith]

I think people have absolutely zero clue what is good where and how

[lucid olive]

Seeing top logs take it and not realizing why they're played on the top logs

[royal zenith]

with current boomkin

[lofty depot]

Well wild mushroom especially for people playing dragons right now

[royal zenith]

it's an actual dogshit mess

and that's not yours fault obv

[lofty depot]

U just don't need it

[lucid olive]

like I saw Luckyone do alt raid on his moonkin and he copied my talents and then never pressed Wild Mushroom

hopped into his stream when he was at Paladins and had to tell him

[ruby badger]

[lofty depot]

But they see top logs and don't realize people are trying to snipe orb damage

[quiet drift]

Lowk Meteor Storm is op

[tacit oriole]

Mythic vael in vault my birds

[lucid olive]

yeah that talent is so nice

[quiet drift]

I was comparing my log to r1

His Starfall had 2x my hits

I had 2 more casts

[lucid olive]

I wonder if Meteor Storm exacerbates the "can gain or lose a tick randomly" bug with Starfall

[quiet drift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4cLTfRrbzQhWx6k3?fight=7&type=damage-done&source=17
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PYhRJvZLzAxCKdGk?fight=9&type=damage-done&source=5

nvm

was almost

3x

but i had less casts

im noob...

[royal zenith]

I like this build a lot better

[lucid olive]

I know there are still some bugs with Starfall gaining ticks

but thats the Dryad one

afaik it's why logs parse the Dryad like this

[lofty depot]

We do too much damage I can't spam starfalls and kill adds

No fun anymore

[quiet drift]

nvm was bait

[lucid olive]

the Starfall dmg that is sourced to the pet are extra ticks afaik

[royal zenith]

your dryad controlled you?

[quiet drift]

294 was meteorite

[lucid olive]

the Starfall from the Dryad has always been sourced to the player

[royal zenith]

I was yoking..

[quiet drift]

so around 66% tick gain from Meteor Storm

[royal zenith]

can't you just have arctic do all the dreamgrove updating @lucid olive

he has nothing better to do anyway

delegate that shit

good for his ego too, he loves that

[lucid olive]

I told him to download pnpm and visual studio code and he malfunctioned

[royal zenith]

bro's useless 😭

[lofty depot]

I asked vinter for help and he hate me

[lucid olive]

@jolly delta based

[lofty depot]

Oh well

[strange basin]

anyone knows why im not getting 10 % krit from incarnation, just the 10% haste work on my stats

[lucid olive]

we did add Arctic to the secret website discord

[lofty depot]

Big secret discord haver

Lots of talking and stuff

[lofty depot]

Can u show that information or

[royal zenith]

knowing vinter there's a lot of yappening

[lucid olive]

doesn't show on character sheet

[lofty depot]

It's not really

[royal zenith]

[strange basin]

so i get the 10% krit but it doesnt show it on my stats ?

[lofty depot]

I've talked more about the simcode app in TC than seen talked about the website in the website discord lol

[lucid olive]

yes, i guess because your stat panel doesn't show critical strike chance

it shows just your critical strike stat

[copper gate]

you aren’t getting the 10% krit because it’s actually crit

[lofty depot]

German prob?

[strange basin]

ah ok ty a lot !

[lofty depot]

Also it's % not stat

[royal zenith]

does kinda make sense

[craggy sonnet]

you gotta take into account that the current apl spending cosmos on starfall always nudges it into that direction

[lucid olive]

no it's just the guide writers pinging vinter when there's a bug or when they need an update pushed

[royal zenith]

no bugs is good!

[lucid olive]

actions.kotg_st+=/starfall,if=buff.starweavers_warp.react|talent.aetherial_kindling&talent.meteorites&buff.touch_the_cosmos.react&target.time_to_die>5

does it

[lofty depot]

Gotta do the AOE opener for adds to get more buffed starfalls for lura

I'm giga locked

The first set cringe tho, not enough time to bank procs

[normal pilot]

Some buffs give your character crit, and some buffs give crit only to certain spells and not to your character. Incarn is one of those, so only those spells get crit and not your character. If you cast a spell that's not in that list you get no benefit

[craggy sonnet]

hm. guess not.

i thought thats how its in there based on whats being recommended

[lucid olive]

idk i have noticed some weird results from base profile sometimes when making copies Starfall differently

[craggy sonnet]

dont understand

can you explain what you mean?

base acts differently than copies re starfall?

[lucid olive]

idk hard to explain, just a few times i ran a sim and gone "huh thats weird"

but havent bothered checking it

like the Starfall line should not fire on Cosmos procs with Meteor Storm talented at all

[craggy sonnet]

yea

[lucid olive]

but when I simmed copies that had different versions of "Starfall Cosmos/Starfall Cosmos but not Asc Stars/Starsurge Cosmos/Starfall Cosmos outside of Eclipse"

i noticed the difference between base and Starfall Cosmos was basically identical

but it's like a week ago or something and i didn't bother checking for bug

[royal zenith]

that's clankz his job!

delegate..

:)

[craggy sonnet]

hey, i already did funny excel sheet

[royal zenith]

exactly

you are the right fit for the job

[craggy sonnet]

it is in fact not using starfall on cosmos procs checking a quicksim from your talent combinations

[royal zenith]

how much of that voidforged shit do we get?

like 1 per week?

(the upgrade)

[lucid olive]

i should finish the excel sheet i had an idea for

but making those sims are super annoying

[manic plume]

It better be 1 per week 😭

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

I basically wanted to take this, but make the data be somewhat relevant for regular people https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cCrukETfgX8JOg9HuR4vCRW2LvgMVbmsLtg1EeHJ59Y/edit?gid=1698899621#gid=1698899621

[craggy sonnet]

but tbf, it is hard for me to truly trust the base apl with these single line optimizations

[lofty depot]

Ew

[manic plume]

Brother one per month sounds like an unsub angle

[lucid olive]

cause right now the only relevance in that sheet is for understanding the APL and SimC

[lofty depot]

It better be 4 now

[manic plume]

Takes 4 weeks to recharge 🤢

[lofty depot]

It's not 1 per month

[royal zenith]

oh we dont know?

[lofty depot]

There's like 3 months left in raid

[royal zenith]

It's a lot of power so every 2 weeks or more is better tbf

[craggy sonnet]

ca for ec is +223% but for kotg just 7%?

[lucid olive]

thats what I mean its only relevant to understand the APL and SimC

not for regular players

[craggy sonnet]

but is that accurate for whatever the testing scenario was?

seems like maybe one of these had a talent the other did not 👀

[lucid olive]

yes

no

thats not possible

    
profileset."celestial_alignment:1"+=spec_talents+=/celestial_alignment:1    ```

it works like this

[craggy sonnet]

or is it just cause the apl breaks down for kotg maybe

[lucid olive]

you take base character and a base talent page

I think the APL breaks for EC

and it malfunctions since one of the iterations don't have CA

so when the other iteration has CA it's a 223% gain

[craggy sonnet]

hm ye

[sonic surge]

Blizz pls make CA 223% gain

boomie needs buff we are so weak

[craggy sonnet]

maybe a funny approach would be to always pick the highest gain talent and iteratively pick up one after the other noting down the gain

[lucid olive]

the spreadsheet takes the .csv file from your sim and does a quick "celestial_alignment:0" iteration ends with a 0 so compare this with "celestial_alignment:1" and calculate the difference between them

it checks for the name of the talent on one side of the colon, and then compares the numbers

[craggy sonnet]

and rank them that way

[maiden pasture]

Me when I discover the A star algorithm

[digital berry]

istg if i dont get gaze today

it's the day im committing

to bettering myself

[maiden pasture]

W

[digital berry]

3 weeks of hero + myth kill and 2 weeks of bonus rolls

[lucid olive]

I wanted to take the concept of simming talent gains this way, but instead of trying to force a talent page that is as "neutral" as possible to avoid conflicts, I'd take the most popular and played talent pages instead for different scenarios and then sim only the talents that directly interact with that page

I think that data is more relevant for regular players and could be interesting

[sonic surge]

Which to take in bad guild that has only cleared up to saladbar and chimmy

[lucid olive]

but actually writing these profileset sims sucks massively so I've been procrastinating

[lucid olive]

idk a socket probably

[sonic surge]

im leaning helm, helm gotta roll lots in m+ or kill vanguard

[craggy sonnet]

is it A* ? actually not sure what differentiates it from dijkstra

[sonic surge]

wot why

[lofty depot]

U can get helm from first boss

Can craft boots

[sonic surge]

o shit u right

[lofty depot]

Neck is shit

[sonic surge]

i mean its kinda the best neck pre-midnight falls no

[lofty depot]

It feels like ur gear might be beans

[maiden pasture]

Not exactly but closer than djikstra. Djikstra has weightings to see how far you are from the end so you don't just take tiny paths in the wrong direction

[sonic surge]

My beans mr arctic

ignore boots ofc

[royal zenith]

dijkstra...

[sonic surge]

i have heroic crit mastery boots

[royal zenith]

djikstra

[maiden pasture]

Mb

[pallid bay]

kinda seems easy

[lofty depot]

Yea beans

[lucid olive]

just really boring

[sonic surge]

why is it beans

[maiden pasture]

Dsune TC-Mogging gg

[lofty depot]

A lot of 276s

[lucid olive]

but it works well

[sonic surge]

wat can i do like i said not a great guild

[lofty depot]

Yes I understand

[pallid bay]

all talents should be defined in druid.cpp right

[sonic surge]

i feel like crafting is tough atm, very strapped for mythic crests

so i wasnt considering crafting too much @lucid olive @lofty depot

[royal zenith]

crafting is kinda

[lofty depot]

Well some myth crests are better spent on some slots

[lucid olive]

I think so? Maybe some of the basic class talent dmg % increases aren't

[royal zenith]

I dunno, it's pretty useless

just get embelish

[lofty depot]

U should wait til u rekill first boss

Then make ur decision

[pallid bay]

    // Balance
    player_talent_t aetherial_kindling;
    player_talent_t astral_communion;
    player_talent_t astral_smolder;
    player_talent_t astronomical_impact;
    player_talent_t balance_of_all_things;
    player_talent_t celestial_alignment;
    player_talent_t cosmic_rapidity;
    player_talent_t crashing_star;
    player_talent_t denizen_of_the_dream;
    player_talent_t eclipse;
    player_talent_t elunes_guidance;
    player_talent_t force_of_nature;
    player_talent_t fury_of_elune;
    player_talent_t harmony_of_the_heavens;
    player_talent_t hail_of_stars;
    player_talent_t incarnation_moonkin;
    player_talent_t light_of_the_sun;
    player_talent_t natures_balance;
    player_talent_t natures_grace;
    player_talent_t new_moon;
    player_talent_t orbit_breaker;
    player_talent_t orbital_strike;
    player_talent_t power_of_goldrinn;
    player_talent_t radiant_moonlight;
    player_talent_t rattle_the_stars;
    player_talent_t shooting_stars;
    player_talent_t solar_beam;
    player_talent_t solstice;
    player_talent_t soul_of_the_forest_moonkin;
    player_talent_t starlord;
    player_talent_t starweaver;
    player_talent_t stellar_amplification;
    player_talent_t stellar_flare;
    player_talent_t sundered_firmament;
    player_talent_t sunseeker_mushroom;
    player_talent_t touch_the_cosmos;
    player_talent_t twin_moons;
    player_talent_t umbral_embrace;
    player_talent_t umbral_inspiration;
    player_talent_t umbral_intensity;
    player_talent_t waning_twilight;
    player_talent_t warrior_of_elune;
    player_talent_t whirling_stars;
    player_talent_t wild_mushroom;
    player_talent_t wild_surges;```

[sonic surge]

boots also first boss

maybe neck... when saladbar dropped neck most of raid was wanting it

but yeah ill wait till reclear

[maiden pasture]

Just buy some boots

[sonic surge]

wdym

[maiden pasture]

Problem with neck is some classes (aug specifically I think) won't take it off ever so you're better giving it to them

[maiden pasture]

Boots are a boe slot

[sonic surge]

thats why i take vault one

[craggy sonnet]

you mean the other way around?

[sonic surge]

can u buy me some ill send u feet pics

[maiden pasture]

Is it the other way around idk I haven't looked at them since 2018

[lucid olive]

those are not every talent right

[maiden pasture]

I have less than 1m gold GG

[lucid olive]

missing some that I assume are either scripted or part of another talent struct

[pallid bay]

name one talent missing

[lucid olive]

Meteorites?

[pallid bay]

gg

[lucid olive]

wait

[sonic surge]

good news that is enough

[lucid olive]

thats old no

has crashing star

crashing star doesnt exist anymore

[pallid bay]

oh im on tww branch

[lucid olive]

gg

[craggy sonnet]

i think so .. cause i know how dijkstra works and that didnt seem familiar. dijkstra is pretty "dumb" in that it has no additional information

[pallid bay]

  // Balance
    player_talent_t ascendant_eclipses_1;  // apex
    player_talent_t ascendant_eclipses_2;  // apex
    player_talent_t ascendant_eclipses_3;  // apex
    player_talent_t aetherial_kindling;
    player_talent_t astral_communion;
    player_talent_t balance_of_all_things;
    player_talent_t celestial_alignment;
    player_talent_t celestial_fire;
    player_talent_t cosmic_rapidity;
    player_talent_t denizen_of_the_dream;
    player_talent_t eclipse;
    player_talent_t elunes_challenge;
    player_talent_t elunes_guidance;
    player_talent_t force_of_nature;
    player_talent_t fury_of_elune;
    player_talent_t harmony_of_the_heavens;
    player_talent_t hail_of_stars;
    player_talent_t improved_eclipse;
    player_talent_t incarnation_moonkin;
    player_talent_t meteor_storm;
    player_talent_t meteorites;
    player_talent_t natures_balance;
    player_talent_t natures_grace;
    player_talent_t new_moon;
    player_talent_t orbit_breaker;
    player_talent_t orbital_strike;
    player_talent_t power_of_goldrinn;
    player_talent_t radiant_moonlight;
    player_talent_t rattle_the_stars;
    player_talent_t sculpt_the_stars;
    player_talent_t shooting_stars;
    player_talent_t solar_beam;
    player_talent_t solstice;
    player_talent_t soul_of_the_forest_owl;
    player_talent_t starlord;
    player_talent_t starweaver;
    player_talent_t stellar_amplification;
    player_talent_t sundered_firmament;
    player_talent_t sunseeker_mushroom;
    player_talent_t total_eclipse;
    player_talent_t touch_the_cosmos;
    player_talent_t twin_moons;
    player_talent_t umbral_embrace;
    player_talent_t umbral_intensity;
    player_talent_t whirling_stars;
    player_talent_t wild_mushroom;
    player_talent_t wild_surges;```

[maiden pasture]

Why buy 279 when 282 boes exist

[sonic surge]

djikstra for pathway solving is very outdated no?

[lucid olive]

yeah just missing hero talents

imagine they're defined somewhere else in the .cpp

[maiden pasture]

Ah, A* must be the smarter one then mb

[pallid bay]

    // Keeper of the Grove
    player_talent_t blooming_infusion;
    player_talent_t bounteous_bloom;
    player_talent_t cenarius_might;
    player_talent_t control_of_the_dream;
    player_talent_t dream_surge;
    player_talent_t durability_of_nature;
    player_talent_t dryads_dance;
    player_talent_t early_spring;
    player_talent_t expansiveness;
    player_talent_t groves_inspiration;
    player_talent_t harmony_of_the_grove;
    player_talent_t potent_enchantments;
    player_talent_t power_of_nature;
    player_talent_t power_of_the_dream;
    player_talent_t protective_growth;
    player_talent_t spirit_of_the_thicket;
    player_talent_t sylvan_beckoning;
    player_talent_t treants_of_the_moon;

    // Elune's Chosen
    player_talent_t arcane_affinity;
    player_talent_t astral_insight;
    player_talent_t atmospheric_exposure;
    player_talent_t bask_in_moonlight;
    player_talent_t boundless_moonlight;
    player_talent_t elunes_grace;
    player_talent_t glistening_fur;
    player_talent_t lunar_calling;
    player_talent_t lunar_insight;
    player_talent_t lunation;
    player_talent_t moondust;
    player_talent_t moon_guardian;
    player_talent_t penumbral_swell;
    player_talent_t star_cascade;
    player_talent_t stellar_command;
    player_talent_t the_eternal_moon;
    player_talent_t the_light_of_elune;```

[craggy sonnet]

A* uses heuristics, ye

[sonic surge]

its ok u can buy me 279 and still get feet pics

[maiden pasture]

Or I buy them and keep them for myself

(I'm also EU)

[royal zenith]

non-dutch people are no longer allowed to type dijkstra

[digital berry]

getting into 10s today is harder then getting into a damn 15

[lucid olive]

no you're not

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

@drifting nova voted so you're not part of EU anymore maya

[lofty depot]

do i force 2nd ring

or do i loot balance for 50/50 staff and ring

[royal zenith]

its almost as if there's like more competition on a 10

that's super weird??

[maiden pasture]

Shiii you right

[craggy sonnet]

regardless, i think some kinda shortest path approach could be interesting

and i feel like it has good odds of landing in a similar spot to the best simming stuff

but idk how to set up a script for that

[normal pilot]

just ask claude

it's good at that kind of stuff

[maiden pasture]

Claude op af

My favourite part about LLMs is how good they are at guiding you how to use them

[lucid olive]

tbf I made the talent value sheet with help from Claude as well

love that guy

[ruby badger]

How did you all meet this guy

[lucid olive]

wrote me a .py script that auto creates the spreadsheet, just have to add the .csv files to a folder and run the command in terminal

[drifting nova]

what da fak did you ping me for

oh wait

I cant read

[covert coyote]

crafted affix on a boss drop?

[lucid olive]

hell yeah

howd that get there

[normal pilot]

smh self reporting exploit

[lucid olive]

its TWW affix as well

[maiden pasture]

Wowhead writers.....

[covert coyote]

I swear that used to show the craftd offhand, i was going to look up the name

[viral summit]

I'm midly confused, how come keeper of the groove sims somewhat significantly lower than elune's chosen on my sims?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3qb3abMEz3SUEheHFQkffT
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v7xNWTdkSRC4AqDi1i1Jnv

[normal pilot]

it's been that way for a while

[vital heart]

while simming for m+ I've only selected motw, should we also select bloodlust?

[normal pilot]

kotg tends to end up better fit for typical raid encounters

but at some point the dps difference'll be large enough and it might flip to ec

[viral summit]

for the cd timing basically?

[lucid olive]

should be fixed

[covert coyote]

[royal zenith]

please stop helping the wowhead writer barial

[jolly delta]

when did u ask......

[royal zenith]

you're supposed to complain about it being bad and wrong

[lucid olive]

the wowhead code was confusing to me at first when I started, and that bug was just me not clearing out the bonus IDs from the weapons

the cheat sheet code in general confuses me still, and is made worse by the preview being consistently broken and the page being harder to get to than others

[jolly delta]

unlike dg, the superior website

[royal zenith]

wrong not up-to-date

[jolly delta]

we should also get acquired by whatever private equity firm is running wowhead

[lucid olive]

idk judging by Arctic giving up 5 minutes into being explained how to update DG

i think theyre both not good

[jolly delta]

bro

[lofty depot]

for help... many times

[jolly delta]

i implemented you an in-website editor

and

[royal zenith]

typical developers always wanting to create their own shit

[jolly delta]

you forgot it even exists

[normal pilot]

huh they fixed emberwing trinket scaling

[royal zenith]

why can';t they all just do wordpress you know

so everyone can work with it

smh

[jolly delta]

you can edit from the browser with no setup and have an instant preview

smh

[lofty depot]

nono i use

where

hehe

[lucid olive]

thats not true

[viral summit]

I'm trying ot undesrstand that actually, wouldn't there be only small amount of diff between kotg and ec CD timing? like you could ~roughly line up with the 1min CD I guess? Also could this be due to the trinket out of curiosity? 1.5min CD, kotg not lining up well with that?

[lucid olive]

i know it exists

i even have it bookmarked

that's what makes it so funny that i have never used it

[royal zenith]

to purposely avoid it

:)

[maiden pasture]

Meaning? they nerfed it scaling too high or?

[normal pilot]

kotg has bit higher burst and spends less time hard casting

[royal zenith]

more potential to ruffle your feathers

heh..

[viral summit]

oh yeah fair point actually

[lucid olive]

Maybe they buffled the feather?

[normal pilot]

both are favorable for encounters usually but like i said at some point the extra dps will be better

[royal zenith]

[maiden pasture]

shiver me timbers ruffle me feathers

[viral summit]

gotcha, thanks for the explanation 🙂

[normal pilot]

you can just rerun the trinket on latest idk maybe it's better maybe it's worse

[lofty depot]

i could be using that hmm

but i didnt know it exist

unforch

[lucid olive]

looks the same to me

[normal pilot]

maybe they renormalized it to your character's ilevel

[jolly delta]

you need to be part of the dg.gg org on github to use it

idk what the requirements are but

[lofty depot]

RIP

o7

[jolly delta]

you should probably be added

[lofty depot]

i did a pull once

[jolly delta]

dont see why not

[lofty depot]

i help

[lucid olive]

this was now vs 4 hours ago

276 feather still loses to 250 vaelgor with kotg

[vital heart]

for m+ sim i just have motw marked in buffs, should I also mark bloodlust or nah

[lofty depot]

do u often do keys with a bloodlust

[vital heart]

think i saw the information too just go 1 target 5 minutes

[lofty depot]

that do be correct

none of those buffs change ur decision making on gear

[lucid olive]

doesnt work currently apparently

[lofty depot]

smh maybe 2027

[lucid olive]

nah i imagine its not a difficult fix

Just nobody has used it so nobody reported a bug with it

[lofty depot]

hmm staff + ring = 1.8% inc

locken

no sockey for crit gem tho :/

next week for sure

need to craft cloak on dh so i get lower upgrade on main

🧠

use the stupid ass 10 extra crests ive had all season

[jolly delta]

no I'll try to fix it today

if

you do your homework and get added to the dg org

I think you need to ask faide

[lofty depot]

Homework.....

[lucid olive]

no i think @normal pilot can do it?

he added me to the org i think

back in the day

[jolly delta]

ye maybe also gas can

[lucid olive]

yeah Gas is listed as owner

[jolly delta]

ok nvm I think I can

@lofty depot send me your username in dms

[lofty depot]

Uhhhh

[jolly delta]

the github one

[royal zenith]

owner

[lofty depot]

It's ogre chat

[normal pilot]

smh doesn't even have a pr to show up

[lofty depot]

The only pull I did was when foe and new moons would bug every reset lol

I'm helping

[lucid olive]

yeah, when they would random change the nodeID the talents belong to?

so they just flipped in every recommended build

[lofty depot]

Ye

[sudden pawn]

the wind chime has been broken

[lofty depot]

New low

Lake dried up or something

[lucid olive]

log reveal

[sudden pawn]

no i did bad lol

[lucid olive]

private logger..

[sudden pawn]

but i did high p4 damage if that matters

[lofty depot]

It doesnt

[sudden pawn]

its over

[lofty depot]

Actually what does matter now

Cuz like p3 isn't a damage check

[normal pilot]

ok you should have an invite

[lofty depot]

Maybe p4 damage does matter

[void jacinth]

need key?

pls say key

[normal pilot]

unless it's an imposter arcticxx

if so blame gamz

[sudden pawn]

well 95% of the raid lost to the bear in p4 so

as well as p3

and p2

and p1

[drifting nova]

[lucid olive]

kanskje senere, kanskje ikke..

[drifting nova]

wait I dont geta key if I dont do 1 this week right

bad system wtf

[sudden pawn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/cat-scared-37--k01KQWJ1EQE7BYKZABHMKGX4RGV

[lucid olive]

nah you can pick up a key regardless

it'll just gradually be worse

[royal zenith]

I too, can turn on vantus rune

and generate those numbers

[drifting nova]

after the ptsd of the 9 yday I cba doing 1 tonight

[royal zenith]

stinky froyo!!

[sudden pawn]

no no no

[void jacinth]

this you?

[lucid olive]

Luds and Deux are friends??

[royal zenith]

no

[void jacinth]

keep yer enemies close

[royal zenith]

that 2.6k is way too high

my main is like 2.3k

[grizzled nimbus]

Hey guys would a 289 feather be better than 276 vaelgor?

[void jacinth]

do i look like a raid bot

[drifting nova]

no

[drifting nova]

rip

[royal zenith]

yeah you're a nerd confirmed

looool high

score

[void jacinth]

whats title gonna be ?

[royal zenith]

^

[drifting nova]

wtf is cavern

is that in dutch

[void jacinth]

?

[drifting nova]

fair, fuck that dungeon

[lofty depot]

That numby fake
Inspect element type shit

[royal zenith]

I got my score like week one and never did any higher key

not needed

[drifting nova]

and I now cannot find the 10s I want/need for portals

minigame bad

lfd when

[lofty depot]

Wait huh

Every phase

Down with the bears

[maiden pasture]

Losing in P1 and P2 seems like a skill issue NGL

They don't even use their echoes in P2 we can't be losing to that

[lofty depot]

Well I ain't losing to that

Froyo a aug

So "we" isn't him

[sudden pawn]

our bear just did infinite damage at all points

idk

[lofty depot]

Gamer

[past kraken]

How do I properly sim myself, when I'm mostly doing M+? What settings should I use?

[normal pilot]

there's a section in the faq in #resources or the compendium

[past kraken]

oh my bad. I looked through it but I must have missed it! 😅

[normal pilot]

it's ok blame gamz

[ripe slate]

always blame gamz

[lofty depot]

I require my name not be on the "written by" part

I shall not be blamed

Mmhm mmhm

[royal zenith]

weak

[dull dust]

I already been blaming u for any apl problems

[royal zenith]

we can just add Chancel's name

see what happens

I like to see the world burn..

[dull dust]

[lofty depot]

Yea then I can post about that to the mages

[dull dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bomb-pipe-bomb-gif-11987700991386067050

[lucid olive]

gifs you can hear

[lofty depot]

Where's the star augar "why we wipe video"

[lofty depot]

Tettles said "I can't do damage to crystals"

What the helly?

[marble cypress]

How does Locus-Walker's work in dungeons? I haven't played with it yet this season but I'm looking at one in the vault. Is its value significantly worse in m+?

[lofty depot]

If ur out of combat for extended periods of time I'll lose stacka

There's a lot of dungeons with downtime as such

[marble cypress]

Guess I just gotta stampeding roar and keep us in combat 🫡

[lofty depot]

U gonna stampedeing roar and take the nexus point port

Surely that helps

[marble cypress]

gonna bribe my tank to keep a mob alive throughout the dungeon for me

lol. Are dungeon slice sims good right now? I'll sim it when I'm home.

[lofty depot]

No

They're not good ever

[marble cypress]

F

[digital berry]

lotus has to be dog for m+ this season\

so much random teleporting around

[nimble tangle]

How about stats increase?

does it stay forever even after stacks gone

[lofty depot]

Huh

[digital berry]

the stacks are the stats increase

[raven obsidian]

Any exwind profile ready to import please ?

[royal zenith]

think tettles released a video and added profiles to his youtube video's summary

which I found by googling exwind

[lucid olive]

why would you google when you could ask dg

[royal zenith]

self-sufficient... faster

better

[lucid olive]

definitely not better

[royal zenith]

trust myself more than class discords..

[lucid olive]

trust the google ai response..

[royal zenith]

nuh uh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJHTounnzLs

it's real

[raven obsidian]

Ty

I guess he has enabled only the tts for bosses

Trash alerts still not enabled

[royal zenith]

you can ask him directly if you want

just tag him

just a human, dont be afraid... !

[vital hound]

gm

[royal zenith]

in all seriousness, probably a reason for that

and the whole point of a profile is so you can customize it yourself, so if you prefer that option

[vital hound]

@lucid olive carrick gets the job yea

[raven obsidian]

Lol didnt know he is in this this discord

[royal zenith]

you turn it on

@wicked shuttle why dont you have trash alerts enabled for exwind tools

now Im curious

[raven obsidian]

Yes the idea is to take one and adjust it

[void jacinth]

We have to

[lucid olive]

yeah for sure, there are no good alternatives on the market and he's shown he can work with these players

[vital hound]

unless nagelsmann comes available

but even then

[void jacinth]

Players would strike if we didn't

[vital hound]

carrick is a known quantity

[lucid olive]

think i'd only take Luis Enrique but itd probably end up same way as Amorim

[vital hound]

agreed

[raven obsidian]

Arsenal will win the C1

[lucid olive]

United needs a coach because Ratcliffe and the other bozos in charge insist on being in charge of spending on recruitment

[scenic mist]

let him where he is, thxw

[vital hound]

i fucking hate ratfucker

[void jacinth]

Surely not Parisian

[scenic mist]

surely not

👀

[void jacinth]

Can u still swim in the Senne?

[scenic mist]

you can do it at least once, for sure

[void jacinth]

[scenic mist]

[fair pasture]

Heroic gaze in vault today

Rip champion shadows of the empyrean requiem you've done well

[royal zenith]

heroic ew

[fair pasture]

I haven't killed mythic yet were working on it

Can people just be happy about things

[royal zenith]

Im pretty happy about my mythic gaze

[vital hound]

dogshit man

[lucid olive]

i bonus rolled once in dreamrift and got gaze

[royal zenith]

same

[royal zenith]

trash

that's actually so bad

holy

[lucid olive]

thats a socket for sure

[vital hound]

insane

reroll token

[lucid olive]

one step closer to playing crit effect gem

[vital hound]

druid is dead anyway who cares

crest achieve donation character

[lucid olive]

smh

[lofty depot]

Took reroll, now go get staff and ring from nexus point

[wicked shuttle]

i do now

[lofty depot]

Big dam inc

[wicked shuttle]

i didnt bc the english pack was bugged and disabled it

[vital hound]

wtf is this

[lucid olive]

thats a flag

[royal zenith]

if you have an updated profile, I think many users will want it augles!!

[wicked shuttle]

i updated it

[royal zenith]

including @raven obsidian

oh pog

[wicked shuttle]

i put causees tts into it too

[viscid rampart]

I like heart of wind, feels good in high m+ keys for me

[wicked shuttle]

i think that addon is just a buggy mess for some ppl lol

[lofty depot]

Tettles why u think we do no dam to crystals

[drifting nova]

skill issue

[royal zenith]

feelings dont matter if you can do more dps

seeing your vid and the features that addon has

it's bound to be messy

[wicked shuttle]

gotta run mushrooms

[viscid rampart]

I am doing more! Not sure if Gaze would increase my overall actually

[royal zenith]

don't think you would ever be able to figure that out, unless you sim

[viscid rampart]

Can’t 🤯

[royal zenith]

M+ keeps feelycraft alive

down with the gamemode..

[viscid rampart]

Haha exactly

This is why it feels good

[royal zenith]

although I do think EC wants more haste

but dont tell gamz I said that

[viscid rampart]

You’re making my case for me

Thanks

[lucid olive]

EC always been good with haste

[lofty depot]

noctuss didnt and he still did like 10m

[raven obsidian]

Hello @wicked shuttle can i have your EXwind profile please ?

with Trash alerts enabled plz

[delicate perch]

no

[lucid olive]

he said he updated the video description

or wherever you got it from earlier

[scenic mist]

he couldve been lying

[lucid olive]

he wouldnt

not my streamer..

[scenic mist]

like in shadowland

KYRIAN SURELY

[delicate perch]

👢

[fair pasture]

any good macro compendiums

[lucid olive]

pokemon go global

hm

[delicate perch]

one of my many emote servers

[royal zenith]

haha thats so cool

[lofty depot]

for what

[fair pasture]

mostly rn i wanna make like, drop form, use wild charge

[delicate perch]

who asked though

[scenic mist]

#balance message

still a lie to this day

[royal zenith]

exactly

[delicate perch]

u

[lofty depot]

why

[lucid olive]

[fair pasture]

seems cool

[lofty depot]

seems useless

[ruby badger]

Shapeshifting is a GCD so you can't macro drop form > wild charge I think

any knowers?

[royal zenith]

you cannot

[fair pasture]

i think you can still you just press it twice

[delicate perch]

[ruby badger]

Yeah but at that point you may as well just press Moonkin form > Wild Charge

assuming you're in moonkin form

[scenic mist]

dropping form isnt on the gcd tho

[lofty depot]

u can, its just 2 presses

[fair pasture]

id rather have it on one button

[lofty depot]

which neither are on gcd

[fair pasture]

and also i wanna know how to make form based macros in general

[lucid olive]

you can use macro like that on some pushback mechanic where you wanna go to a DK or something in caster form

[raven obsidian]

ah great

[lucid olive]

think people used it on raszageth p2

i had it set up for dimensius p2 but those winds were chill anyway

[fair pasture]

i just want the options

[scenic mist]

/cancelform [form: n]

if i remember correctly

[fair pasture]

ty

[lucid olive]

you can just do /cancelaura moonkin form or

smh

[scenic mist]

ye but where is the style in that

[lofty depot]

#showtooltip Wild Charge
/cancelform
/use [@Mouseover]Wild Charge

[royal zenith]

where is the style in double pressing the same button..

might as well go full OBR

[fair pasture]

you just sit here and act like an asshole to people all day?

[royal zenith]

no it's just sarcasm

and you take offense in it

[fair pasture]

its annoying as fuck

[scenic mist]

that's ducks for you

[royal zenith]

that's unfortunate

[lucid olive]

deux usually a man of the people

the devils advocate

[lofty depot]

u can also use this for all the root breaks

[lucid olive]

now on trial

[royal zenith]

Ill use more emoji's next time

[scenic mist]

tbf we always mach buttons, no ?

[delicate perch]

he hasn't had his dino nuggies yet

[lofty depot]

to cancel form and it doesnt wild charge

[lucid olive]

you can cancel form by just pressing your moonkin form button

[scenic mist]

ye but if not in mk form, pressing it will lock you in gcd

[lucid olive]

surely you put that on a better button than a niche wild charge macro

[lofty depot]

imagine not having the spammable form button

[fair pasture]

its not bound

[scenic mist]

holy

[fair pasture]

well it is, but i just click it

[scenic mist]

what do you do after dashing ?

like mid fight

[fair pasture]

my stance bar is huge

i click moonkin form

[dense steeple]

what if we had a "summon favorite form" button and it just cycled all the forms at random like the mount button does

[fair pasture]

ive been meaning to bind it to a better key but i just keep forgetting

[lofty depot]

WHAT

[scenic mist]

lmao

[lofty depot]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTT

[lucid olive]

thats fine

@meager storm is a clicker as well

[scenic mist]

everything's fine

[fair pasture]

i just got the mount form and the tree form buttons

and theres too many forms

cant click them anymore

[lucid olive]

i just do c1 c2 c3 c4

not a care in the world

[fair pasture]

thats what they are

[dense steeple]

not that many

[scenic mist]

c4 goes boom tho

[lucid olive]

stance bar is perma hidden

[fair pasture]

its awkward on my keyboard

[lucid olive]

get that shit outta my screen

[dense steeple]

as god intended

[dense steeple]

i have it hidden in combat

[fair pasture]

going from 4 to 6 is a 50% increase in buttons

[lucid olive]

do you use hdr or is your game just washed like that

[fossil shard]

hdr

yee

[scenic mist]

but from 6 to 4 only 33% decrease
go figure

[delicate perch]

the poor mans gaze

[dense steeple]

gamz

[delicate perch]

[dense steeple]

what color is this

[fossil shard]

make sure you have a copy paste message to your tank to chain pull LMAO

[scenic mist]

the dress is white and gold

[lucid olive]

thats white

[delicate perch]

I will NOT be entering keystones above 12

[royal zenith]

thats yellow

[dense steeple]

the bar not the lettering

[royal zenith]

ochre yellow to be precise

[scenic mist]

black

[dense steeple]

i'll end it all

[lucid olive]

it gives a citrusy flavor

[dense steeple]

artic thinks its BROWN

[fair pasture]

its light brown

the bottom part? dark brown

[lucid olive]

according to claude its a gold/amber yellow

[scenic mist]

Gamz used a token for this

that's commitment

[fair pasture]

imagine asking a disembodied robot without eyes

new movement to harvest unused human eyes and hook them up to data centers so we dont have this problem

[royal zenith]

I have the real answer for you @dense steeple

It's #925b1d

you're welcome

[desert imp]

Quick question guys, i thought Gaze and Vael combo are best but seems like Locus+Vael is slightly better for me. Shall i pick it up in vault?

[delicate perch]

why does your sim start with a 9

[scenic mist]

means it's the same

[desert imp]

ok thanks mate

[delicate perch]

more serious response is you need to eventually upgrade a myth trinket so if you don't have a better trinket it's still quite good

[desert imp]

i have both heroic vael and gaze with high prio on getting Gaze if it drops this reset

so i was thinking if i take locus then i can prio roll on Vael

because that will he hugest upgrade

[delicate perch]

ya could either do that, or depending on what your other choices are take a diff item/send a reroll into the ring set/weapon

but I just took ribbon and it made stare a bigger upgrade than gaze now

but my stare is heroic so it'd be weird if it didn't

[desert imp]

i am in the same boat

[lucid olive]

hey claude told me its #F5C518

[lofty depot]

0.1% doesnt actually matter

[royal zenith]

I used photoshop

the REAL tool

[lucid olive]

smh

[desert imp]

so then take extra roll to get rings/Vael trinket?

[royal zenith]

(it's brown btw so arctic is right)

[scenic mist]

arent you...

nevermind

[lofty depot]

yessem

staff from nexus isnt bad iether

i was rolling feral to get rings first

[desert imp]

but i dont have any mythic trinket

[lofty depot]

but didnt work :/

[lofty depot]

yea so any trinket is good

[desert imp]

already have mythic staff for first week vault

[delicate perch]

ya I have a 1/3 chance into a 1/2 chance to get ring and weapon this week

there is NO way I don't get weapon

[lofty depot]

which is different from "this trinket is best with my shitty gear"

[delicate perch]

right..?

[lofty depot]

so roll feral on nxp

6 items vs 7 ezpz

[royal zenith]

I am

🃏

[delicate perch]

we knew that though

[delicate perch]

emoji user lol

[scenic mist]

damn here is the emoji

didnt wait long

[royal zenith]

yeah Im evolving

[delicate perch]

doubt

[scenic mist]

Claude ???

[royal zenith]

[desert imp]

sorry, just to be clear. so i still dont pick this mythic trinket from vault to replace my heroic and roll better upgrade from Dungeon and be on waitlist for raid drops?

[royal zenith]

that one is for you people

with a bg

[delicate perch]

and honestly? that's growth.

[delicate perch]

thanks I hate it

[royal zenith]

[scenic mist]

dont you mean gross

[opal fulcrum]

Is keeper being used in keys now? I see some on murlok using it

Unless they logged out in it

[delicate perch]

no I'm copying the robotic shit ai says to people who talk to it

[scenic mist]

which

is

gross

[delicate perch]

oh yes

duex stinky I agree

[scenic mist]

https://tenor.com/view/kdrama-handshake-shaking-hands-gif-26102712

[royal zenith]

just actually open raider.io and look up the high keys tbh

and even then, yeah, it can be them logging out with the spec

so use warcraftlogs to actually look up the highest keys

[civic junco]

Erm, we are still missing a simulationcraft sim? https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/MID1_Raid.html

[lucid olive]

oh no!

[loud kettle]

That's ideal actually

[royal zenith]

you just lost all of your credibility in terms of proper research aqual..

Ill be honest..

(that's sarcasm with a pinch of realism)

[scenic mist]

damn crazy still rocking the green name

[mighty mica]

wdym still, did you think it was a joke

[royal zenith]

he's been green for like

5 months?

or so?

[scenic mist]

i sure hope not

[delicate perch]

until kekkers is green it has to be

[loud kettle]

Uh 7 I think

[civic junco]

I've BEEN washed

[scenic mist]

it's been green from the moment i told xanza to make it green

i am a man of influence

french touch

[royal zenith]

to be fair, the person who made that shit can easily just get a profile/sim from this discord or w.e.

so it's just lazyness on their part

[civic junco]

Its a weird oversight from them tbh. Idk who puts it together. I thought they worked with the guide writers, but I guess not

[pallid bay]

It's not an oversight

[normal pilot]

nobody puts it together

nobodys checks those profiles

any random can put one in

[pallid bay]

The profiles are mostly useless

[normal pilot]

some spec communities prolly put a lot of work into them idk

[pallid bay]

They're used for the most part to compare one spec to another

Or as a bis list

[royal zenith]

especially this one

is sooooo good this tier

[civic junco]

XD

[pallid bay]

Neither is guaranteed to be accurate

[civic junco]

I use it as my baseline to see if I can put together gearsets / talents that out perform it

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

giga druid guy

[pallid bay]

source=default
spec=balance
level=90
race=night_elf
timeofday=night
role=spell
position=back
# KotG - Convoke - FoE - RM - Early spring - Control 
talents=CYGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjxMDMmlZmZmBYYWmZbYmZGbsMzyMjhZDDAGgttxGmmZWGBAAAYzMzMzgNjhxMAmZAgB

# Default consumables
potion=lights_potential_2
flask=magisters_2
food=harandar_celebration
augmentation=void_touched
temporary_enchant=main_hand:thalassian_phoenix_oil_2


head=,id=250024,bonus_id=13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/1808,enchant_id=8017,gem_id=240983,ilevel=289
neck=,id=250247,bonus_id=12806/13577/13668,gem_id=240900/240900,ilevel=289
shoulder=,id=250022,bonus_id=13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574/13574,enchant_id=8031,ilevel=289
back=,id=251206,ilevel=289
chest=,id=250027,bonus_id=13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575,enchant_id=7987,ilevel=289
wrist=,id=244576,bonus_id=12214/12214/12214/12214/8790/8960/12384/1808,gem_id=240900,ilevel=285,crafted_stats=32/49
hands=,id=251113,ilevel=289
waist=,id=251082,bonus_id=1808,gem_id=240914,ilevel=289
legs=,id=250023,bonus_id=13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575/13575,enchant_id=7935,ilevel=289
feet=,id=249382,enchant_id=7963,ilevel=289
finger1=,id=251093,bonus_id=12806/13577/13668,enchant_id=7997,gem_id=240892,ilevel=289
finger2=,id=251217,bonus_id=12806/13577/13668,enchant_id=7997,gem_id=240908,ilevel=289
trinket1=,id=249346,ilevel=289
trinket2=,id=249809,ilevel=289
main_hand=,id=251111,enchant_id=8039,ilevel=289
off_hand=,id=245769,bonus_id=12214/12214/12214/12214/12214/12214/12214/12214/12214/12214/12214/12066/9627/12693/8960,ilevel=285,crafted_stats=32/49```

[civic junco]

outrageously based

[royal zenith]

augmentation=void_touched

[lucid olive]

early spring???

[pallid bay]

It's u who posted it

And also didn't update it

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

nice

[civic junco]

:OMEGAKEKW:

[lucid olive]

[delicate perch]

never release big sim

always gaslight

[civic junco]

Release the files

[royal zenith]

can't wait to see our maximum 109k dps

[pallid bay]

This good example of no guarantees

[royal zenith]

also are these profiles even with voidforged items

[civic junco]

There is no way

[royal zenith]

mm hunter profile probably old

[normal pilot]

i think some are

[royal zenith]

yadda yadda

it's sooo bad

[civic junco]

The feral one is 289 weapon

[lofty depot]

what else is ur vault...

i dont know based on a picture

[normal pilot]

if you want a diff profile just submit a PR

100% guaranteed to be accepted

[scenic mist]

Do not let sune gaslight you
We are trash
Other specs dont have working sims
We are bottom dps
Our defensives are shit
Healer cds are nerfed

[civic junco]

Wasn't there some guy doing turbo insane shit like submitting Mechagnome feral druid in DF? Or did I dream that?

[delicate perch]

probably kekkers

[drifting nova]

[normal pilot]

sounds plausible nobody checks submissions

[drifting nova]

wdym submitting

[scenic mist]

kekkers submits to no one

[loud kettle]

someone did try that

[drifting nova]

in other news

cna we just get a follower dungeon

to scale to 10

ty blizz

[loud kettle]

somehow it didnt go through

gently lead back to night elf

it wasnt even the best racial in a vacuum

maghar orc 📈

[royal zenith]

I vouch for maghar orc druids

sounds good

[loud kettle]

at least at the then times, nowadays its night elf by a country mile

[drifting nova]

if we dont have human druids

we arnet getting anything nwe

[lucid olive]

i vouch for orc druid

female orc has best casting animation

[scenic mist]

f the orcs tho

[royal zenith]

wish kekkers could shapeshift into something useful

[drifting nova]

idk what I'm doing

[normal pilot]

idk sometimes kekkers is the most useful while eberyone else yaps

[civic junco]

I do the nelf male casting animation irl when I do math. What's it to ya?

[drifting nova]

throw spells

out

if they die, skill issue

[royal zenith]

that is true

[drifting nova]

tried to get my war into a 10

but no bites

[dense steeple]

Id bring your war to a 10*

[scenic mist]

male nelf legit casting final flash

[dense steeple]

*if I didnt know it was you

[lucid olive]

yeah its annoying..

[lofty depot]

why are we doing funny sims, wheres spreadsheet

[royal zenith]

I got invited, by a pug, to a 10... on my rat ilvl 267 monk

+2'd it

looted puzzlebox

logged out

🤝

[civic junco]

I am a greatly flawed individual

[lucid olive]

@lament sigil

[royal zenith]

I wish it was the real puzzle

[drifting nova]

theres no useful loot in aaright

that cant be gota s resto

[royal zenith]

uhh has a decent ring, puzzlebox for feral/bear and the whistle for resto

[drifting nova]

so resto covers it

[royal zenith]

2h is also pretty okay for both feral/moonkin

[drifting nova]

I'm not a furry

[royal zenith]

I mean...

[drifting nova]

so just staff and trink

[royal zenith]

NOOOO

the new raid drops higher ilvl