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fair pasture
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Which one of these is how ur name is supposed to be

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Or none of the above

lofty depot
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lol idk

fair pasture
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Garyéét, syllable-maxing

lofty depot
dull dust
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gary didnt even r1 the egg

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gapped by a kotg gamer

fair pasture
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Keeper of the gap

brazen bramble
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wait is there an explanation somewhere about the cancel aura tech on the compendium or wowhead or something?

lofty depot
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i didnt r1 the fight tho

brazen bramble
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im assuming it's just read here

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xd

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nvm

dull dust
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this guy did 70k more

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lol

lofty depot
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wtf

dull dust
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bro was sleepin on kotg

lofty depot
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this guy is hacking

dull dust
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lol

lofty depot
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HACKER

dull dust
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he even had the big pool!

lofty depot
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yea im shit wcyd

dull dust
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yo are denezins op on that

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randomly

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they did so much dmg

lofty depot
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lol we talked about htat

dull dust
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did we

lofty depot
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...

dull dust
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why is kotg simming poopy for that

fair pasture
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They do so much damage because it keeps morale up having ur little buddies there cheering you on

dull dust
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mabey simc bugged

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need gas to buff kotg 25% for no reason

lofty depot
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i kept getting fms on opener

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means no fm on egg

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oh that pull i didnt get any fm

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smh

dull dust
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oof

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that guy is

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beating the next best egg guy

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by like

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40k

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wtf

lofty depot
lofty depot
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but far less in p1

dull dust
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tettles other druid also did giga

lofty depot
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ye

dull dust
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both same build

lofty depot
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well im not killing that boss again forever so

brazen bramble
lofty depot
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the cancel is specifically for NG stacks and eclipse press

royal zenith
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Guy gets once in a lifetime denizen uptime rng on egg

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Chancel completely lost…

lofty depot
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thats only 1m of the 16.92

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still did 3m more

royal zenith
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Cant wait for people to hyperfixate on crits

round field
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Crit is very important

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If you crit every spell you would do twice as much damage as someone who didnt crit a single one

fossil hemlock
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This is true

fair pasture
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This is why I do a bunch of world quests without crit before raid so I save them all for later

cold gyro
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Hello, I've got my hands on a mythic weapon, I used to run crafted staff with Hunt embellishment and bracers with lining, what should I craft next ?
I've got the 2x rings from Nexus point on 6/6 heroic and I'll use all my bonus rolls to upgrade them to myth. So, cloak or boots are my next craft ? And what should I embellish on them ?

brazen bramble
frosty surge
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Hi All 🙂 what options do you select when simming for M+ and Raid as a Boomkin? I am unsure to change my Heart of the Wind in Mythic with a Soulcatcher's Charm in Mythic (GV). Any advice? I also have the Emberwing Feather equipped in Mythic and will not get Chimaerus and Dragons Trinket in Mythic for a while...

twin lotus
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Hello, I am just running normal 5 min ST sim for raid and 5 min 5 targets for M+. I think the Chimaerus and Dragons trinkets in heroic are better than mythic M+ trinkets so try to do that and maybe get a socket or another reroll from your vault if that's your only choice

frosty surge
twin lotus
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Yes, also consider what dungeons u are going to be using bonus roll in, if they have the same slot as the bonespines might be worth waiting a bit on the vault until after your rerolls

jaunty blaze
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Haste mastery isn't "bis" stats

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It can be good but you should always sim your character

frosty surge
jaunty blaze
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Crit has a lot more value this season

frosty surge
twin lotus
jaunty blaze
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Don't use stat weights either in case you base it off of that

frosty surge
jaunty blaze
frosty surge
frank vine
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i did it as boomie, i had to manage burst phases and cds to get only 1 kick per phase and actually managed to kill him as boomie

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not sure why they still haven't fixed the kick on him, but it seems it's possible even without the fix

somber path
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Ive done it as everything but cat so yeah its possible

vital pewter
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On fallen King Saldbar. how much time do people borther to use on dotting the small adds? Or do you just focus on dotting the bigger adds moonfire and sunfire and just spam starfall for the small ones?

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mythic diff that is

fossil hemlock
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If you don't have someone instantly deleting the small ones, just sunfire them and get to dotting the big ones

royal zenith
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I had zero chance in dotting smallies

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they get deleted by melee

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and/or devourers

round field
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delete dn

mighty mica
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deal

sudden flame
slender island
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qq: are the dragons locked behind killing first 3 bosses? or can you go there right after killing just imperator?

fossil hemlock
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You can skip to it, but they will have more health

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If you really want to you can do it for farm reasons, but definitely wouldn't recommend it for prog

slender island
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right yeah, i just noticed that on wowhead's boss order diagram

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ye my guild is progging there now and we're wondering what to do after reset

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thanks!

celest rampart
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are people running rattle or starweaver in m+?

jaunty blaze
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Can do either

restive garden
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Any tips on juggle eclipse and elune? Do you start with eclipse to get it on cooldown. Then go elune? Then just pop then always when available?

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Sometimes I find myself in a situation without eclipse and it feel so bare. Spending lunar without eclipse.

lofty depot
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There are times when ur out of eclipse

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U can start with eclipse on aoe. Which can be used before dotting, u can also spend the ascendent buffs prior to incarning so u have more starfalls being buffed. But that requires the pack to live through that sequence

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Learning where ur CDs go and what damage is required and then changing or being fluid with your cds

celest rampart
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the Gamz one from the resources tab is gone

violet fern
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henlo my felow chmikens r we casting the falling stars today?

dense steeple
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Cause gamz doesn't use it anymore garf

violet fern
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yes yes i too press the stars of the falling because i am felow chmiken like u

zealous zenith
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ima bat shrug

celest rampart
dusky orchid
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I too am felloe chickmen let us summon the stars together my brethren

dense steeple
lofty depot
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Also surely it's in there

dense steeple
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"Hey soma, why did you install a camera in your office pointing at the door, thats weird"

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me after watching my IT director walk into the office while I was not working

livid jay
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@jolly delta i dont know if its unfixable and its not really something that matters at all but the toc is still missing the Single Target Priority entry 😄

lofty depot
dense steeple
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He came to talk about a presentation hes giving about ai Sadge

digital berry
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istg if i get an another garbage vault three weeks in a row im going to flame arctic

round field
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just for that i hope ur vault is horrid

digital berry
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i guess glass half full pov is i can probably get a NP ring from a bad vault

lofty depot
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That's what I'm likely doing

digital berry
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still throwing bonus rolls at chimera

jolly delta
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Thanks for the reminder

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new website coming soon tho LetMoonkinCook

digital berry
jolly delta
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(not new dg.gg website to be clear)

digital berry
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damn got my hopes up

jolly delta
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i mean is there anything to change in dg.gg

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i think website's fine

violet fern
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Hey guys when do we cancelaura starlord

jolly delta
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you can't

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aka never

digital berry
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true dg is perfect as is

violet fern
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haha you fool. This whole time I was a feral in disguise! You all never saw it coming.

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Thank u for sharing me ur secrets.

digital berry
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god feral players are weird

lofty depot
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Don't think feral players disguise themselves very well

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Like 2 kids in a trenchcoat

digital berry
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it is what it is

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gaze waiting room

dense steeple
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Oh vaults are up?

lofty depot
digital berry
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i didnt do shit i want gaze

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i am still rocking the champ track quest trink

royal zenith
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I bonus rolled mythic gaze last night

dense steeple
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I bonus rolled 2 vaelgors last week garf

digital berry
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33% for me to bonus roll gaze todayu

lofty depot
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Hmm

digital berry
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plus it hasnt dropped for us for weeks now

dense steeple
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Classic if you didnt spend rolls last week you can get any this week rn

digital berry
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lmao what

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the max you can store at once is 2

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why

pallid bay
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already gotten max amount for the season

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gg

lofty depot
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Assumption being u could go spend them, then pick up the quest. Unless the season maximum is actually fucked

digital berry
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thats gotta be it

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erm

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my crests are still showing 600/600 but i assume its a visual bug

robust gust
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Does someone know, with big certainty if i can grab the 2 new nebulous voidcores if i saved my other 2 last week?
The context is that it shows 2/4 on the voidstorm machine but in my currency tab it shows 2/2 season maximum AND whenever im gonna hand in the quest to buy the other 2, the text on the amount of voidcores shows as red, the same way it shows for example when you are capped on crests and hand in a quest and don't receive more

dense steeple
robust gust
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So If i'm holding 2, I can't pick up the other 2? I need to spend the 2 i have?

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THat's pretty dumb

lofty depot
lofty depot
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Now u get to skip trash and go get ur other rerolls

dense steeple
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Vault has dragons cape and aa ring

round field
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Yikes

dense steeple
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Why yikes

robust gust
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That's ass

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Where is that stated

round field
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Cape stinks low budget slot

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Aa ring smells cause i said so

dense steeple
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What would you preferred to have dropped

dense steeple
jaunty blaze
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Next id tho yes

round field
dense steeple
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I want you to look up my character and tell me what you wanted to be in my vault

maiden pasture
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Xd

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Surely visual bug

dense steeple
round field
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I ordered an iced coffe and its warm

dense steeple
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The biggest one

round field
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Im confused

dense steeple
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But idk

dense steeple
round field
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Ok im looking at wclogs

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And for ur next vault

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I hope u roll

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Hmm

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50 euro coaching coupon

dense steeple
dense steeple
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I aint playing to pad boss

round field
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They call me toxic but never calling me a liar..

dense steeple
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Im an ethical gamer

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This apad tier and im not doing it

round field
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Uhm

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Sir

quiet drift
dense steeple
# round field

Okay yeah im not good anymore you didnt have to oust me

round field
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Dw

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Same

digital berry
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im a padder and i am not ashamed of myself

quiet drift
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w

royal zenith
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Padding is for losers

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(So are grey logs)

digital berry
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can't win with deux

lucid olive
digital berry
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can't talk shit tbh im progging crown

lucid olive
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needed to make an omelette

royal zenith
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Ill be honest

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Parses dont matter shit

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Killing boss does

digital berry
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they really do not yueah

quiet drift
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#truthnuke

royal zenith
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But not being able to parse is also definitely a skill issue

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But thats from a minmax pov

dense steeple
royal zenith
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(My logs have been grey on all the bigger bosses)

round field
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Its fine deux

lucid olive
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arent you like 40 years old

round field
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At one point ur age just overtakes your parses

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Its natural

dense steeple
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you can tell where the 2 day guild timeframe stopped me

royal zenith
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Its not fine

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Being deadweight always sucks

gaunt cove
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currently got this in vault, if i take this weap, would it be an issue not using hunt embelish since im taking this weapon?

round field
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Time to retire then

royal zenith
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Like playing boomkin

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Yeh next tier

lucid olive
modest wagon
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has anyone taken their voidcores yet? I'm worried I'm about to erase them if it's bugged

round field
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Roll tank and come keys with ne

royal zenith
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Lolno

round field
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We can vibe in weekly 12s

gaunt cove
lucid olive
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WoWHead talent calculator works as well

twilit charm
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Please explain me someone. Just had balance druid in my party. How much you have to be lazy to not pump higher than 30k dps at 243 ilvl? m+10, no matter of what it was - big pull with BL, small pack, big pack or boss. He was doing max 30k at every scenario and couldn't pump more than that, I was outdpsing him using one damage button that my healer has.

lucid olive
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cool

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idk what you want to accomplish here

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joining balance druid discord to flame this 1 guy in your party as if there are only 10 moonkin players alive and they all sit in here daily

dense steeple
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Idk why you invited a 240 ilvl character to you +10

lucid olive
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insane loser behavior imo

dense steeple
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I dont think I would consider inviting someone lower than 260 to my +10s, let alone someone at 240

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To then come complain to his discord that he does no damage because he has no gear

lucid olive
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yeah thats crazy

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please go outside

gaunt cove
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ty

digital berry
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bro people who pop cds right before third boss skyreach are so lame

earnest flame
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Does anyone have a guide on how to sim for crafted gear upgrades. I am trying to figure out what I need to craft now. What I did suggested I craft a ring -- but all the guides say to craft belt/bracers. I think its probably because I already have a belt crafted and I think embellishments are unique equipped, but I could be wrong.

Here's my current quick sim -- tho I just noticed I logged out in M+ spec so its simming that and not the raid spec
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3rJvgCpUd6DvwUY46nmzpb

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Maybe there's a pin im missing too, if i did please point it out

lofty depot
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u sim them in top gear by looking up the items and adding the stats to them then adding the embell at the bottom in the slot

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but yes, if u have shit items itll likely tell u to craft in those slots

earnest flame
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Is the idea with crafting gear that you replace it eventually and they're just like temporary upgrades?

digital berry
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i feel like if you havent gotten shafted by vault chances are you wont get much of a dps upgrade from using myth crests on crafted gear at this point

earnest flame
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I don't really wanna craft a ring only cuz I am trying to get the 2pc ring set from nexus point

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I already have one hero track ring in my bags -- but its a current dps downgrade without the other one

gaunt cove
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when i use builds from guides, they use battle of the stars. But when i check logs says 100% people are using starweaver. When i search Key specific keys in logs

earnest flame
lofty depot
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some people play worse with procs

earnest flame
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I think I am personally a fan on battle of the stars more. Just more fun getting like 8 starfalls out on big packs

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and then going machine gun boomkin on bosses

jaunty blaze
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Battle of the stars hmm

lofty depot
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dont think ur getting 8 starfalls out on big packs like that

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but sure

earnest flame
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I've been using the bliz tracker and watching the number of starfall stacks hit 8 pretty consistently

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so unless that's wrong idk man

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The tank I play with loves to pull massive packs and I just slam as many starfalls as I can

lofty depot
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u can get 8 after casting starfire a few times

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but i think the max u can get depending on a proc is 6

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7 with ob proc and or asp gains

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rattle just giga boring

livid jay
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Weaver is boring too, just annoying on top

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I just play battle of stars in weeklies

drifting nova
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no procs is bad

crisp moon
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I think we should normalize battle of the stars

dark trail
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Is Dungeon slice the go to for simming for m+? only really simmed myself for ST until now

crisp moon
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Such a better name

normal pilot
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dungeonroutes is the only way to sim m+

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dslice doesn't work

dark trail
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is that a different site or am i missing something on raidbots?

normal pilot
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you can goto keystone.guru, pick a route and get the simulate string and paste it into the expert mode footer on raidbots

dark trail
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Thanks ill give it a look

lucid olive
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it's for demon hunter, but same stuff applies for Druid

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just need to change what raid buff you're using

dark trail
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cheers ill give it a watch

nimble tangle
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Void core limit is just visual bug right?

lucid olive
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no its the weekly increasing cap

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the refunds and the cores bought with vault currency are outside of the cap

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cap increases by 2 every week

fast finch
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For reference we have mythic chim in farm and we just started our mythic drakes prog

ebon pulsar
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If people aren't using the weapon embelishment, are they using two arcanoweaves?

radiant jungle
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based on data from Archon anyways that is what they are doing, simmed out better for me that way too so I went that way as well

lucid olive
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especially since bonus rolls exist

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tho u should probably use it on heroic vaelgor & ezzorak unless you kill mythic asap

leaden birch
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can you get tier from bonus rolls?

lofty depot
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Yes

leaden birch
marsh zenith
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@lofty depot you still maining frost mage?

lofty depot
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No

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I also didn't ever main it lol

wheat rivet
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FINALLY got Heroic Vaelgor's Finale Stare trinket

dull dust
lofty depot
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I played it in manaforge

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Ig I mained it in legion lol

dull dust
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arctic mage main

lofty depot
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Legion classes so much fun man

exotic perch
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yeah almost like they had more then 3 devs doing all of the classes then

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wild how investing resources makes specs fun

normal pilot
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eh i don't think that's true

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they haven't really shrunk the combat team

exotic perch
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well classes got extra dev time bc of the artifact trees and all the class halls

normal pilot
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legion was before all the harrassment stuff when they had to fire/quit the old timers with all the knowledge

exotic perch
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def felt like there was just more overall

normal pilot
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team's always been between 15-20 ppl

exotic perch
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hero trees are kinda the equivalent of artifact trees but are so dumbly uninspired

normal pilot
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if anything it's prolly bigger after legion

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if anything it's those legion dev's fault why current development is so bad

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those old devs were shit at documenting/leaving things behind

exotic perch
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yeah that might be part of the reason BFA was so stale was bc all the artifact stuff just disappeared

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and classes were bare bones

normal pilot
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bfa was a bunch dumb executive decision at higher level.

exotic perch
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prob didnt know how to implement many of the artifact stuff into base classes

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well dumb executive decisions is every expac haha

normal pilot
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it was the same guys they knew how to do it

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ion or someone high up just decided pruning & azerite was the way to go

exotic perch
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fuckin ion ruining wow!

jolly delta
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i am

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downloading ff

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wcyd

normal pilot
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that's so slow

jolly delta
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thats germany for u

normal pilot
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unlucky

jolly delta
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no well im also in a temporary home

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so im not the one that decided the wifi plan

jaunty blaze
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speak for yourself i have fiber

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its not bad everywhere

jolly delta
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literally 3rd world

celest rampart
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has anyone figured out how to track the heal from Heart of the wild in the CDM? it tracks the Heart of the Wild Bear HP fine but doesn't track the Heart of the Wild Wild Growth heal?

jaunty blaze
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its pretty bad LULE

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especially compared to france

normal pilot
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this list says avg germany speed is ~100Mb and france is 300+

jaunty blaze
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france has pretty good fiber coverage

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germany really depends where you live and if youre lucky ig

jolly delta
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And Germany started kinda to wake up now

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A few years ago it was even worse

jaunty blaze
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ye most of the network is from the last 5 years

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the worst part is that its unreasonably expensive too for what it is

normal pilot
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do you guys have broadband monopolies? like only 1 provider per location

jaunty blaze
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in my area we do, because there is a regional provider that built the network and you can only get connection from them

dense steeple
jaunty blaze
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as i understood it they have a few years of monopoly on it

normal pilot
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ya i used to get kind shitty prices and then 2nd fiber provider moved in and now you get insane speeds for the price

vital hound
lucid olive
livid jay
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i mean 100mbits is at least enough to download at a decent speed

normal pilot
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  1. better than germany but still not great
livid jay
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i remember downloading wow over night and it was only 6 gb

jaunty blaze
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Good old days

lucid olive
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google says 160-170, that checks out, mobile 5G is at 220

livid jay
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with my 15mbits in germany back then

lucid olive
livid jay
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you can almost everywhere get 500mbits in germany now with cable internet

jaunty blaze
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Funny enough you might even have more difficulty getting fast internet in Berlin than in some rural areas

lucid olive
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a friend was at my place for like 4 days downloading WoW on his laptop back in Wrath, then we took a USB memory stick and shared the files with each other cause that was quicker than downloading it separately

livid jay
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yea because in berlin cable internet isnt really useable cause of the big houses

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cause they all share one cable

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the tv cable thing

lofty depot
lucid olive
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the wild growth not trackable in CDM so that means not trackable at all

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unless you make a custom buff that checks for your current stance not being bear and your spec being balance and you pressing the HOTW button and then showing a x second duration buff icon

fickle pier
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After this week's vault I'm legit gonna have like 180 haste lol. Feels so weird with it simming so low

lucid olive
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i miss manaforge 0 haste

fickle pier
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Got the m+ mast/crit staff from seat in the vault, and recrafting embelly to cape. Seems good

jaunty blaze
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Beloren makes me want tww s3 back

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Would be so good for it

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😭

dull dust
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im suprised

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Americans use mb aswell instead of tiktoc downloads per min

normal pilot
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who downloads tiktok..... is canadaland so remote you can't stream

dull dust
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I couldn't think of something u download regularly anymore

lucid olive
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canadians think tiktok is that snake game on their nokia

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thats the latest craze

dull dust
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man I wish

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we would have flying cars by now

lucid olive
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smart phones ruined us

dull dust
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real

lucid olive
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give me back the phone keyboard where i had to press down 2 twice to put a B

dull dust
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flip phone meta

lucid olive
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this shit was crazy

jaunty blaze
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Goat

celest rampart
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In skyreach final boss is it possible for us to save ourselves when we get grabbed

thorny wagon
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did the class discords just crash?

dull dust
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yes

maiden pasture
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We back chat

spice roost
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is it only class discords

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lol that would be funny

dense steeple
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few others tho

dull dust
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its still goin

spice roost
lucid olive
dense steeple
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nah ive got some non wow discs non responsive too. small ones which is odd seemingly as its almost exclusively the big massive servers that are down

spice roost
digital berry
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we are BACK

lofty depot
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Damn thought we were free :/

lucid olive
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idk give it a second

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oh there we go

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i was trying to ping arctic earlier but it said he wasnt in the server

dense steeple
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its still going on

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i still have 9 servers down atm

dull dust
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only if wow servers go down and dont come up will u truely be free

lofty depot
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Server dies before I die

nimble tangle
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Sabotage

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Druid

dense steeple
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someone on my raid team deadass died last week 🙁

dull dust
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wtf

dense steeple
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yeah we just found out

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both the world and our team are worse off for it

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he was a good guy

dull dust
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sorry to hear that

dense steeple
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life happens yknow

dull dust
celest rampart
dull dust
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my fruit gushers fused

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(they are both hard now im sad)

dense steeple
# dull dust

what if i told you i know exactly how that happened

dull dust
dense steeple
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because i use to operate the machinery that makes those packages

dull dust
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do tell

dense steeple
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so basically they have a machine with some bronze crimpers and a knife

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it turns the package from a sheet of foil to the bag shape, and then another tube seperate from it drops the candy in at a preset weight, then the crimp seals, cuts, and starts the next bag all in one motion

dull dust
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so the cut got borked or something

dense steeple
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well these machines are set up on timings and shit

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the reason THIS happens

honest rapids
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Wasn't that on an episode of "How they do that."?

dense steeple
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is because product falls at the wrong time

#

and gets caught in the crimper

dull dust
#

also does this mean theres a chance u messed up my gummies personally

dense steeple
#

no i never worked with gummies 🙂

#

i worked with nabisco products

dull dust
#

ah

dense steeple
#

i went to go get a picture of a bag and i see this one

#

see how the edges are like not just a designed cut but also like really messy?

#

that happened because the crimper was dirty

dull dust
dense steeple
#

the advertised picture on this website is from a bad product example

dull dust
#

that goes crazy

dense steeple
#

also you know how packages will have like a white or black bar on the ends?

#

\sometimes\

#

like this one

#

the random white bar then some more red, right on the end

#

thats showing that the machines timing was off

#

that line is suppsoed to be exactly where the cut is

#

to ensure the package is centered

dull dust
#

damn some of these were way off then

dense steeple
#

its why you see shit like this sometimes

#

theyre supposed to get caught by line workers, not shipped out, and also brought to the machine operators attention

dull dust
#

thats fuckin sick

dense steeple
#

ive done a lot of jobs kekw

#

you ever see those rubber floor mats like this?

#

used to make those too

dull dust
#

oh word

#

ive only ever worked in like

#

fish plants or customer service

#

man lobster aint worth shot after that on god

stone ledge
#

I printed the Abbott Covid test kit boxes from 2020-2023

#

If the blue was .1% lighter or darker they would require a reprint

dull dust
quick thicket
#

hello, anyone has links for anything balance druid related? im having some issues with my rotation, and i grey parse in mythic raid 💀 (at 280 ilvl with gaze)

lofty depot
#

Sounds like any guide will help u, which they are linked in the pin and the resource tab

coral crystal
#

i ahve the dark moon hunt on my main hand, what embellishment should i put on my off hand crafted weapon

lofty depot
#
  1. in the future u shouldnt craft like that
  2. u should have ur 2nd embell as arcanoweave which is a 3rd craft... which is the part of craftin a staff and not 1mh 1oh
coral crystal
#

ok thx. i didnt know. thought you could stack the hunt

#

now i have to recraft

foggy kelp
#

you can stack the hunt it just isn't worth it and costs 160 crests for a weapon vs 80 if you craft a 2h

tiny tendon
#

I OPENED IN FERAL DUDE

digital berry
#

Oof

lucid olive
uncut roost
#

That's a lot of mastery

tiny tendon
#

Yeah I slammed that box but FUCK

dull dust
#

reroll time

#

@loud kettle take him to the shadow realm with y

tiny tendon
#

beloren bear spec incoming

coral crystal
dull dust
#

arctic

lofty depot
#

well i said it was arcanoweave

dull dust
#

if i just want to roll the feather in vault

#

is it better to open as bear

#

someone count all the items for me thx

lofty depot
#

wowutils

#

silly guy

dull dust
#

thats a thing?

lofty depot
#

first time?

dull dust
#

yea im new

dull dust
#

that just spins the box

#

am I missing something

lofty depot
#

can we lock in?

dull dust
#

I dont see it

foggy kelp
#

shows total number of items available to the spec. change spec on the left to see different specs

dull dust
#

still cant find it

#

at this point i no longer care

#

im opening as bear

#

im gunna blame arctic

lucid olive
#

surely one of these hit

timid umbra
#

Hey guys, does anyone know why my EC build for m+ is simming 2% better on single target than keeper raid build?

lucid olive
#

EC good

timid umbra
#

so I just play EC all of raid and m+?

lucid olive
#

not necessarily

timid umbra
#

Why are 99% of boomies on logs sleeping on this?

exotic perch
#

if you are comfortable with it and not canceling casts and such yea it should be good for a few fights

lucid olive
#

because EC is dogshit gameplay

exotic perch
#

but it isnt as good as keeper is for burst

timid umbra
#

with starlord it ain't so bad, but rattle EC is the absolute worst

#

thanks for help

lofty depot
dull dust
#

ec bad

dense steeple
dull dust
#

kotg beat ec on egg

#

egg is life

dense steeple
dull dust
#

I still have no idea how

dense steeple
#

wait

#

i broke that

dull dust
dense steeple
#

duality of boomkins

obsidian girder
#

i want it to beat kotg in raid so i can say byebye to trees

tiny tendon
#

if you want 3 buttons devourer is right there man

lofty depot
#

@dense steeple do i 1/2 the ring or do i take helm from vault

dull dust
#

are u guys extendo perma now

#

reclear bird cowards

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

well i started at 2/3

#

or sorry 2/4

dense steeple
#

no i mean

#

what do you plan for bonus

lofty depot
#

i did already

dense steeple
#

oh

lucid olive
dense steeple
#

is it nxp ring

lucid olive
#

fuck that boss

#

i suddenly catch the flu whenever we have to farm that boss

lofty depot
#

i rolled twice already

dense steeple
#

might be hat angle

lofty depot
#

is prob

dull dust
lofty depot
#

have 2 next week :/

dull dust
#

put me in

#

I gotchu

obsidian jetty
lucid olive
#

I think its maybe good on Lura but you do negative dmg in p1

obsidian jetty
#

p1 is the only phase that will require dmg at this point

#

kill adds, do mech boss die

lucid olive
#

ye

digital berry
#

if ec was truly better then kotg in a real life scenario the sweats would have already farmed 100 parses with it let's be honest

lucid olive
#

i think its more that nobody wants to be the innovator

lofty depot
#

clecia be innovating

#

recruitie will innovate on rekills

craggy sonnet
#

parses also dont necessarily indicate what would be more useful on a given encounter

fickle pier
#

People at the top play the wrong thing all the time. Echo won SL S2 as NF.

dull dust
#

but they indicate length and gurth

digital berry
#

wipe 2 minutes into a 14 key, 4 people say gg nt

#

what the fuck is up with the wow community

fickle pier
#

But try a moderate move fight as EC and see how it does

dull dust
#

people just give up

#

for no reason

dense steeple
#

actual 2500 andies pushing for 3.4k because blizzard put shiny at end

normal pilot
#

i'm not paying $15 for things to be hard i want ez mode

digital berry
#

lost MAYBE 40 seconds and they think those 40 seconds were the difference between IO or no IO

normal pilot
#

if they want me to work i should get paid

dull dust
dense steeple
#

no we dont like preach here

midnight hazel
#

Do you guys Starfall Single Target in Keys on bosses?

#

With SW proc

dense steeple
#

yes, specifically with proc

midnight hazel
#

Okay thoguth so. I must be looking at bad logs ha

#

thanks

craggy sonnet
digital berry
#

even oif you tripled my silly estimate that owuld still be plenty of time

dull dust
#

14s with geared people should be insanely free

#

even with like 15 deaths

foggy kelp
#

i think people just see a wipe at the very beginning of the key representative of what the rest of the key will be like and decide its not worth 30 minutes of their life

dull dust
formal crest
modest wagon
#

do we prio stellar amp or just starfalling on dragons

#

id peep a log but im boutta pull

lofty depot
#

starfall

#

u still press ur procs tho

modest wagon
#

ofc, thanks

inner pilot
#

is there an addon, or a setting in game that will help track how many seconds left on eclipse? i need it to be closer than the top right where all the buffs are scrolling

delicate perch
#

various cooldown managers can give a better visual of that

wheat rivet
#

what do yall think would be a better craft, boots or cape?

#

both are my lowest, 2/6 hero

vital hound
#

grow up and read your buffs

delicate perch
delicate perch
#

bro needs to see the screen to play midnight kekwpoint

#

hunter discords that way pal 👇

vital hound
elder remnant
#

What’s the rule of thumb sending eclipses btw do you wait to line them up with anything in particular?

delicate perch
#

line them up with logging out

elder remnant
#

Very helpful Cavey thank

delicate perch
#

what else is new

#

regular when

lofty depot
#

uhh ur generally sending

craggy sonnet
#

in what context?
if you have some kind of other cds anchoring your burst (trinket, trees, non lunation foe), then you sometimes have to substitute a CA/Incarn with a normal eclipse because it just wont be up.

lofty depot
#

then sending with trees at 3m

craggy sonnet
#

otherwise you are filling inbetween bursts, trying to get some ap before pressing eclipses

#

resto druid deadge, surely big rise of the owl

dull dust
#

lowkey chicken pumps

fickle pier
#

Idk about pumps. Its fine. My 7 ilvl lower ele alt that I am much worse at does the same dps

#

But I'm not doing 18s either so it probably scales up a bit better

dull dust
#

how much are u doing on ele

#

so i make ele alt

#

stonks

dusky orchid
#

i dont hgave logs but any gamers have any quick high level feedback on this damage breakdown for my Overall for a +12 MT? just trying balance for fun, aoe feels weak... ST felt good i think I was 80-85k on bosses

#

with so many tiny mobs idk how much moonfire to do

digital berry
#

a dmg breakdown doesnt say much

dusky orchid
#

ah alaright

dull dust
#

bros dmg meter is ratting him out as a feral

dusky orchid
#

ya thats weird honestly idk wh y lol

dull dust
#

mine does that too

#

blizzard things

digital berry
#

jsut log a random key and then it's going to be much easier to give pointers

fickle pier
delicate perch
#

100000000 billion damage

fickle pier
#

Ele shits on bosses (except all the 2/3 target ones lol) and massacres one pull every 2 mins

dusky orchid
#

oo that sounds fun, ive been thinking of leveling my ele

#

my lvl 45 ele sham........

fickle pier
#

It is fun. Its just vibes too. Its pretty easy by comparison

#

But the 2t and 3t is despair, you're doing dog damage

dusky orchid
#

i heard ele has some multidotting?

delicate perch
#

is boomkin difficult currently

fickle pier
#

Which is kind of same as boomkin but worse

dusky orchid
#

feels like that with feral too

fickle pier
#

No boomkin isnt difficult but comparitively it is more complex than most casters. Many got big prune and we gained minor complexity

dusky orchid
#

2nd boss Seat im always sad lol

delicate perch
#

boomkins have IQ though so it's fine

fickle pier
#

Ele gains like 15% damage from adding a second target or something ultra pathetic. You only get a second lightning rod up and flame shock tick

#

Its really sad

obsidian jetty
dull dust
#

I miss the triple burst tierset

obsidian jetty
#

aoe lava bursts every 7 seconds on up to 5t

dusky orchid
#

was also debating lvling spriest

dull dust
dull vale
#

Is the change to meteorites make it worth it now? What do we swapped over to it? Mushrooms? Context EC in m+ keys 10 - 12

pseudo merlin
#

@royal zenith I made righteous fire PogCat

digital berry
#

aaaand i got tier piece and not a single gaze dropped

#

fuck this fucking game

dull dust
#

I blame arctic

digital berry
#

i am triggered

#

next week its a 50/50

#

this is the third or fourth week without a gaze dropping

lofty depot
#

but u can check the top logs if u want

dense steeple
#

aight as long as my parses hold i am back to purple avg

digital berry
#

i got a 44 on dragons cause i died in .5 and its gonna be there till we kill freaking lura

exotic perch
#

guys my alt is better geared then my main this is fun

dull dust
#

i got a agi stick from vault

#

i blame arctic

delicate perch
limber lance
#

whats wrong with my macro

exotic perch
limber lance
#

it wont cast celestial it just uses the trinket

#

i fixed it i had to put trinket first

scarlet niche
dense steeple
limber lance
exotic perch
#

tbf i have also got raid loot on my shaman for beloren lol

limber lance
#

im using orbital strike tho

dense steeple
limber lance
#

and orbital strike is nice for aoeing down big mobs when i pull

dense steeple
#

okay fair

#

no you dont need to tell my what its good for

#

i get all that

limber lance
#

ye ye

#

thats also why i like treants taunting LOL

#

even though balance mains hate it

limber lance
#

theyre doing their best

lofty depot
lofty depot
digital berry
#

i assume in p2 alleria we just surge her and dont bother with the add pad?

lofty depot
#

"we"

#

yea sure

delicate perch
digital berry
#

ratas

lofty depot
#

dh be ratas

digital berry
#

so jsut fall until they go down to 0 hp and surge?

analog moat
#

Is there an average dps change between myth weapon+crafted OH vs crafted staff? I know, I know, sim it, but I'm lazy.

digital berry
#

sim

#

there is no other answer unforch

meager storm
#

even after the divorce we stay together

lofty depot
#

u guys reclearing

#

what the helly

#

still splitting chimarues jesus

#

what atime

meager storm
#

just first 4 on vs

#

and back to lura

lofty depot
#

how many gazes and vaelgors do u need

#

holy

meager storm
#

a few

digital berry
#

its a free easy kill at the end of the day

#

if they were unlucky as fuck its worth killin

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

our rekills werent going that well

delicate perch
eager raft
exotic perch
#

this boss sucks

meager storm
#

we are not doing bird again we just went straight into lura

exotic perch
#

ya thats our plan kill bird this week

#

never kill again for a month

#

they need to nuke this boss again lol

#

take out kicks or a set of balls or something this is annoying

scarlet niche
restive hearth
#

Haven't played my ol' boomie since raiding regularly with it in DF. For leveling the druid up now in Midnight, would you suggest Guardian or is Boomie fine?

lofty depot
#

guardian pretty free

#

but boomkin is fine now

#

before thiso expac was kinda cringe

restive hearth
#

free?

lofty depot
#

ur just never gonna die

#

and do a lot of dam pressing ravage/raze

fickle pier
#

feral also can't die and just presses berserk to obliterate whatever is nearby

#

I leveled my split druid as feral for the first time and it was faster and easier than balance I think

#

but they're all fine

fair pasture
#

Balance felt crazy good for leveling you have so many instant spells and short cooldowns that blow everything up

#

You can just repeatedly crush huge groups

#

But also I have zero frame of reference this is the only spec i Ieveled since WoD so maybe meaningless but it felt great

digital berry
#

what do people do to lvl these days?

#

no more dungeon spamming?

fair pasture
#

People in my guild levelled multiple chars with timewalking over the weekend it seemed crazy

#

Timewalking mists dungeons

lofty depot
vital hound
#

the set of orbs right after intermission

#

bing chillin

pseudo merlin
delicate perch
#

console d4 logout

pseudo merlin
#

not console get rekt L + ratio

delicate perch
#

using a controller on pc even worse

#

are you kekkers?

pseudo merlin
#

how is it worse

#

unlike POE, Blizzard actually figured out how to get a mouse and keyboard to work alongside a controller

#

on POE you have to log out, reboot your pc, get the launch codes from Chris Wilson

#

Fly back home from New Zealand

delicate perch
#

idk controller movement just sounds jank

pseudo merlin
#

Then you can swap input

#

That's why I play righteous fire

#

I literally just run circles around a boss and it dies in <2 seconds

delicate perch
#

sounds slow

rustic belfry
#

What is logic on why touch of the cosmos procs are used on starfall even in single target? Normal tooltip damage suggests starsurge should do more, but I assume some interaction makes it worth.

lofty depot
#

u would be correct some interaction, that interaction being starweaver and hail of the storm

loud kettle
#

Not stellar drift?

#

A tragedy

ivory barn
#

I have an embelishment problem. I wanne craft gloves. myth. But i cannot put embelishment hunt on gloves. Only on weapons. Any other alternativ?

ivory barn
#

have it on theese

#

@lucid olive

sudden flame
#

put it on the hands too then

#

it stacks

ivory barn
#

Oh i dident know that sorry

#

Thank you!

sonic surge
fossil hemlock
#

Starfall has a 40% chance to proc weaver

#

Surge only has 20%

#

So using it on starfall has a higher overall chance of more free spenders which proc hail of stars

delicate perch
#

free proc gud on high cost spender

jaunty blaze
jolly delta
#

anyone knows why the 1st trinket is showing the error?

#

I have enough currency to upgrade it

fossil hemlock
#

Got enough non-GV trinkets without myth crest cost for combinations?

jolly delta
#

I have the 2 base ones I use now

#

Oh nvm got it

#

i force upgraded one item so not enough crests

jaunty blaze
jolly delta
#

bro not my fault this sucks ass

delicate perch
#

expert btw

jolly delta
#

in my new website im clearly showing the error

#

maybe raidbots should steal this idea as well???

fossil hemlock
jaunty blaze
jolly delta
#

No it says

#

uhhh idk maybe too expensive maybe not figure it out yourself

delicate perch
jolly delta
delicate perch
#

well it could also be a unique item

#

so if it is not then you know it costs too much

jolly delta
#

anyways

#

garbage vault

jaunty blaze
#

Only 1,5% 😭

jolly delta
#

only 1.5% after upgrading everything etc

delicate perch
#

whys your sim start with 9 😭

jolly delta
#

the vault itself is like

#

0.3%

jolly delta
delicate perch
#

my raid loot was cursed

jolly delta
#

at least you got raid loot

delicate perch
#

I am still using void rep trinket

jolly delta
#

same

delicate perch
#

I wish I had gaze

jaunty blaze
#

Gonna miss myth achievement by 0.27 ilvls this week

#

Not fed enough

delicate perch
#

gg

jolly delta
#

Actually

#

nvm

#

this is pure great vault

#

tragic

jaunty blaze
#

Just take the socket already

sleek dirge
#

In Vault, I got Myth Dagger vs Myth Cape.

Are we still going for the dagger + lantern set up with the voidcore being able to easily get Mythic 2H Staff like Multitool from Nexus Point ?

jaunty blaze
#

Only answer to that is sim it

sleek dirge
#

Answer is yes: Dagger + Lantern (both voidcored) > 2H voidcored Myth 2H Staff
+0.2% diff in dagger's favour.

For me it was the Maisara's Dagger that won compared to the Terrace's.

fossil hemlock
jaunty blaze
#

What weapon do you currently use

sleek dirge
#

Now : 285 Crafted 2H

Where can I see the margin of error on the sim ?

jaunty blaze
#

Seems a bit sus that you sim such a big upgrade

fossil hemlock
#

It's voidcore plus more stuff

#

+10 ilvl on weapon isn't small

jaunty blaze
#

Ah

sleek dirge
#

it's voidcore and some enchants/gems changes

#

Im not sure yet how it will go to voidforge the dagger + the lantern, but i think i did it correctly in the setting putting both of them on the voidupgrade 298/285

wise hare
#

where did you put ur second embelishment

sleek dirge
#

bracers 285

wise hare
#

no i meant

#

instead of 2h

sleek dirge
#

Lantern off hand

#

still Hunt

vital pewter
#

What talent loadout do people use to sim their toons for raid?

delicate perch
#

the one I'm using for the boss I want to sim for

civic jungle
#

Did you also add your second emb in the sim on your bracers? You should sim 1 arcanoweave + hunt vs 2 arcanoweave. + you need to optimise gems for diff stats on dagger and staff

celest rampart
solemn oar
#

hi - when i play m+ with elune spec. what is my st rotation ? do i never press wrath ?=

white sandal
#

Outside of eclipse you use wrath as a builder on ST

fiery kindle
#

NOOOOOOOOOOO

solemn oar
#

but with lunar eclipse up not right?#

white sandal
#

In eclipse still use starfire

solemn oar
#

ok ty

#

is there a % haste we aiming for?

fossil hemlock
#

Whatever the sim says

drifting nova
stable frigate
#

Im gonna try placing with mushrooms on Vaelgor mythic tonight(maybe it's big with other bosses as well)
When do you actually use the charges? Is it on pull then every add or can you put 2/3 down at once when add spawns?

finite vapor
#

Anybody know a easy way to sim crafted gear with different stats combos? Or is the best way just to make separate sims with all combinations ?

round field
#

can make multiple

#

or add the items manually in topgear

stable frigate
lofty depot
#

Then u would find the timings when he's going to aoe grip and use mushrooms at those points

stable frigate
#

Them all?

#

So all 3 charges

#

At once

lofty depot
#

Depends how fast they die

#

Probably just 2

stable frigate
#

Aight so I pop one at pull on dragons then 2 on first set of adds where he will be gripping then i figure out whatever i do after that 😄

wooden obsidian
#

Method's gearing guide says that the Nevermelting Ice Crystal is BiS if you're doing mythic+. However, this discords website, along with IcyVeins and WowHead places it very low in tier lists or doesn't include it at all. Is this purely a "sim it" situation or what could be the reason that Method is the only one having the trinket so high in priority?

The active gives crit chance so I don't see how that's beneficial over other trinkets with mastery/haste.

lucid olive
#

thats not what the method guide says

#

the lists are "good gear FROM raiding/mythic+"

#

not "best gear FOR raiding/mythic+"

#

notice how there are 0 raid items here

#

i guess trinkets could still be changed but you shouldn't really look at them anyway

lucid olive
drifting nova
#

time to login an be disappointed

lucid olive
#

the Pit of Saron trinket is not very good tho, but neither are any of the other M+ alternatives compared to Vaelgor and Gaze/Ribbon

drifting nova
#

and not login til next patch

round field
#

feather is fine

lucid olive
#

a 250 Vaelgor from LFR beats any m+ on-use

wooden obsidian
lucid olive
#

no its equal to crit

round field
lucid olive
wooden obsidian
# drifting nova and not login til next patch

don't I know it. Logged inn and got yet another weapon (I have a radiance crafted max level), that crit trinket I mentioned and mythic shoulders. (one of the few mythic pieces I have) yet again... This season is showering me with the few things I have already upgraded. Nothing new for me lmao

round field
#

thats where u vault a bonus roll

lucid olive
drifting nova
#

first like 3weeks I took tokens thats how dog it was

lucid olive
#

thats also a 289 emberwing

#

that is being shit on by LFR vaelgor

wooden obsidian
#

yeah at least I can use tokens for a nebulous voidcore, that's kinda sick. The nexus point dungeon has tons of upgrades for me

lucid olive
#

getting beat by trinket 39 ilvl less

round field
wooden obsidian
#

oh damn that's wild

round field
#

sim ec the better spec and u will see

pallid bay
drifting nova
lucid olive
drifting nova
#

it isnt dog atleast

pallid bay
lucid olive
#

who knows

lucid olive
#

it hurts

round field
#

idk

#

theres no other content to do

#

just vibe weekly 12s

wooden obsidian
#

Is 275 item level gonna be difficult to find a pug for this week? Couldn't bump my item level up before queueing

round field
#

a pug for what

wooden obsidian
#

oh, mythic+ 10's

round field
#

i mean

#

sure probably

#

might take a while

lucid olive
#

ilvl doesnt matter for pugging m+ as long as you're not like 220

#

score and being a desirable spec matters far more

wooden obsidian
round field
#

well what keys are u doing

wooden obsidian
#

Gonna do 4 this week on Nexus to attempt BIS rings and get a chest piece/gloves

lucid olive
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ilvl doesn't matter in the context that nobody is going to invite someone with 2300 score even if they're 287 ilvl over someone who is 3500 score and 270 ilvl

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i timed a 13 pit with 4 people last night after the healer quit on 1st boss

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on rat alts

round field
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game is very easy

lucid olive
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m+ on levels earlier than +20 is literally a joke

lucid olive