balance

[dreamy locust]

[lucid olive]

think EC can be fun in raid

[drifting nova]

couldve also been solved by apex talents actually being real talents

[normal pilot]

can't wait for LC buff in 12.0.7

[drifting nova]

and not just fake spec talents

starfire should be the dominant spell in ec

[digital berry]

ec was fun ish on vanguards

[dreamy locust]

Playing fights with movement and getting interrupted on 2 sec lunar casts is ass

What was the double beetle boss people were playing EC

hated that fight

[digital berry]

ec was also more fun with having access to three insta casts

[drifting nova]

well yeah but thats moreso how they designed hero talents

they 100% designed kotg to be the raid talent

and ec to be the m+ one

[lucid olive]

EC on Vanguard is so much better for movement than KOTG is

EC is better for movement during Beloren egg phase as well

[drifting nova]

theres been a severe lack of true aoe/council fights past few xpacs

1 a tier is just for show

[digital berry]

i never played ec on silken court

i mean this tier literally doesnt have a single true ST fight

[drifting nova]

I wish both hero talents were truly playable on both st and aoe fights

[lucid olive]

they are

[drifting nova]

but they just arent set up that way

[lucid olive]

you can play keeper on paladins if you want

[drifting nova]

they just arent

[lucid olive]

they are

[digital berry]

the only fight we take convoke is belo and thats just because only egg phase matters

[drifting nova]

I'd rather play ec all the time

[lucid olive]

okay

[drifting nova]

only fun part of kotg is convoke

[lucid olive]

you can play EC all the time then

[drifting nova]

fuck trees

[lucid olive]

you'll maybe do a little less dam on spread cleave like Vaelgor & Ezzorak

[round field]

no but

[lucid olive]

or Alleria P1

[sonic surge]

i love the trees they do the dotting for me

[round field]

theres no way

[lucid olive]

but you can play both

[round field]

first boss

is hard

[drifting nova]

its not just a druid issue, virtually every class had hero talents archetypes predetermined

[round field]

for tanks

??????????????????????

[digital berry]

i like the idea of kotg and burst windows over flat dmg profiles

[drifting nova]

slayer for warriors being st, thane/colo being aoe (m+)

[lofty depot]

U can play convoke on vorasius

[drifting nova]

they funneled too much into each hero talent

[lofty depot]

And on saladbar for that matter

[lucid olive]

I think the tank mechanic on that boss is a bit different than usual

maybe some tanks take longer getting used to it

[round field]

but

[dreamy locust]

who tf playin convoke on those lmfao

[round field]

its like

week 20 of the tier

[lofty depot]

Non-padders

[drifting nova]

had hope and still do for a real hero talent expansion, treants into an ancient of war or lore

[round field]

surely u ever played tictactoe in ur life

???????????????????

[royal zenith]

you can play convoke on lura

[dreamy locust]

Boss damage copers

[drifting nova]

but I doubt hero talents get revisited now

esp after apex

[royal zenith]

you just wont be slotted

[drifting nova]

huh what

[lucid olive]

I ripped 1m Convoke on L'ura in heroic reclear

copped rank 3

[round field]

what what

[drifting nova]

a tic tac is a sweet smh

[round field]

i heard cyanide pills are rly sweet

[royal zenith]

arn't they mints

[round field]

can u try and let me know kekkers

[drifting nova]

sweet/mint

[royal zenith]

spearMINT

[drifting nova]

I consider them sweets

THEY ARE SWEET

[lucid olive]

I assume they're bitter since bitterness is the bodys natural reaction to poison?

[royal zenith]

well that says enough about you kekkers

[drifting nova]

but yeah you pop them like you would chewing gum

but gum is also sweet

not my fault your taste buds are shot

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

I meant cyanide

and seems I was right according to google that they're bitter

[drifting nova]

then again I spose I do have a ..special attention to sweet things ig

[lofty depot]

What is the mint flavour ... Is it spearmint or peppermint

[drifting nova]

same thing

[lucid olive]

mint condition

[lofty depot]

Nhuh

[drifting nova]

this was the og tho, idk about that new woke double flavour one

[digital berry]

I grew up on that shit

And it had like a bunch of different colors and flavors too

[royal zenith]

yeah they're iconic

[drifting nova]

the explosion of "new" flavours of things in the 2010s

was a bad thing

[royal zenith]

not sweets tho

but yeah

[drifting nova]

and the orange ones

[digital berry]

Mints aren’t sweets in my book either yeah

Orange ones were literally BOMB

gas

They cooked with those

[drifting nova]

rolled by AI

[royal zenith]

yes candy

not sweets

[drifting nova]

???

[royal zenith]

you're factually wrong kekkers

[drifting nova]

you think I use candy for things?

[digital berry]

using AI to prove a point is wild

[drifting nova]

probably a reddit thread about it somewhere but cba

[digital berry]

as much as it pains me i stand with deux on this one

candy aint sweets

[drifting nova]

probably didnt help I didnt have much sugar as a kid so

[round field]

whats the difference

between candy and sweets

[drifting nova]

candy is american

sweets is..not

they are virtually the same

[royal zenith]

keyword

virtually

[normal pilot]

wtf calls them sweets

[digital berry]

sweets evokes the idea of slices of cake, cookies, shit like that

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/flag-pudgy-pudgypenguins-london-uk-gif-24890566329402930

[normal pilot]

oh figures

[drifting nova]

like chips and crisps

[digital berry]

well if you want to say you enjoy things that are sweet wouldnt you jsut say i like sweets?

[drifting nova]

..you would here

and mints are sweet so sweets they are

[timber pine]

Polly Pig likes sweets.

[lofty depot]

No I meant like actual mint lol

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova sulphur blades 5th kill

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

no t6 for me

[pseudo merlin]

my ranged attacks now heal me for 42

and overheal me to shield me for 29

i can afk kalphite queen

[calm wave]

on dragons are you hitting mushrooms 3 times on orbs?

[drifting nova]

so done with leagues I accidentally healed a key yday

[pseudo merlin]

lmao why

just respec ur tree and dont be bad

[drifting nova]

not just that kourend first blows

[pseudo merlin]

yes so get another zone

[drifting nova]

thats 40 more tasks

[pseudo merlin]

which takes like

2 hours

[drifting nova]

[drifting nova]

probably

[lofty depot]

I send 2 on the first and 2 on second

Kinda spreading out the damage possibility assuming neither set gets bursted

[calm wave]

cheers^ sounds good

[lofty depot]

U can send 1 on pull aswell

[mystic heath]

is wild charge good enough to ignore bird on last boss SR?

[digital berry]

some sets implode so 2 is not really feasible, like the intermission overlap

[mystic heath]

can I save myself is my question

[digital berry]

if you are brought to the edge and dropped you should be able to travel form wild charge back onto the platform

ive seen shamans hop that aswell

[mystic heath]

boomie disengage not good enough?
ç

[lofty depot]

I have 3 DHs, I promise all my sets blow up

[digital berry]

answering the wrong person i assume

[lofty depot]

Yea

He respond fast

[digital berry]

should be i am just not sure if you can rotate the camera in time to not propell yourself further away from the edge

[mystic heath]

either way I can shapeshift into stag before getting to the edge

[dense steeple]

Theres like 9 classes that can do it

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova triple jad

[fiery kindle]

🥳 🥳 🥳 🥳

[ivory sentinel]

any voidcores experts here? my main got 6/6 voidcores. but my alt only got 2/2? am i missing something or.

[round field]

6/6 is for bonus rolls 2/2 is for the upgrade

[charred mango]

2/2 is the actual reroll currency

6/6 is unlocking the ability to get it

[ivory sentinel]

my main got 6/6 + a new quest or whatever. then i logged my alt and i got this whatevr this is?

shi confusin

[pseudo merlin]

bro

[charred mango]

2/2 is "i bought my two rerolls"

[pseudo merlin]

you need to unlock the forge on 1 char

after that you get 2 coin cap per week for all chars

[charred mango]

6/6 is "i did the quest to enable myself to buy rerolls" you can ignore it forever

1/1 is "i am progressing towards the weapon and trinket upgrades"

[pseudo merlin]

me when i dont read quest text

thank fuck you dont need to unlock it on alts

[charred mango]

if you log in next to the voidforge after the next reset it will say 2/4 and 1/2

[dense steeple]

i wish you did

[pseudo merlin]

????

[eager raft]

Not sure why you’re lying……

[misty tundra]

any mthic fallen king saladbars in the chat?

are you primarily in lunar eclipse or solar?

[lofty depot]

Only time ur in lunar is during ur incarn

[round field]

for the love of the game

[misty tundra]

and are you using starfall whilst in solar during orbs?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[misty tundra]

tysir

or maam

[lofty depot]

Him

[round field]

[lofty depot]

Just hide those messages

They don't exist if u don't see them

[round field]

no i defintely saw my game exploding

even without the error message

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova killed corp beast and all I got was some teak planks

[dry compass]

I saw a tweet about unholy discord melting down and wanted to check in on my chicken bretheren. How we doing - still dogwater?

[royal zenith]

he actually thinks its a fun meme 😭

[dry compass]

what am i missing here

[copper valve]

It is a fun meme though

I love it

[dry compass]

but hey upper half for the first time in what, 6 tiers? W chickens

[lofty depot]

We were upper half last tier

Just took a few buff patches

[dry compass]

sir, worst class in the game for prog only to be midpoint in X.5 isn't upper half in my books

[royal zenith]

what makes you think it's any dif rn

[dry compass]

well I quit after dimmy died so I have no idea xd

I'm trusting arctic for info which as we both know is not a good idea

[lofty depot]

When did dimmy die

[dry compass]

before x.5 for me

[lofty depot]

Smh

[dry compass]

I think? I don't remember

[lofty depot]

Well Lura not dead yet, why u so slow

[dry compass]

I was on the bench so xd

[lofty depot]

Should go check on dwilkz damn

See how ugly it is

[royal zenith]

this is what you're missing..

[dry compass]

yeah that looks mostly like manaforge prog

what I'm learning is if I hadn't quit I would've still been in warlock jail

or worse, forced back into aug jail

how on earth did aug end up a top raid spec again after they gutted it

[royal zenith]

yeah those are by far more valuable specs

they never really gutted it

changed the way it works in raid

just does good dps in midnight

shrimple

[dry compass]

I thought they pulled a ton of dam out of ebon might and put it into the Aug's own damage before midnight

maybe that was an early beta thing they reverted

[royal zenith]

uhh that's what people want to believe

it's like 50/50 or 60/40

but it's more normalized

[dry compass]

Last time I actually progged on Aug was Amirdrassil where it was what... 70/30? so idk

[soft warren]

how is balance druid looking this patch? been rolling with destro lock and looking for a new alt bc im learning if youre not playing demo nobody wants you and i find demo extremely boring

[round field]

if ur playing boomkin nobody wants you

[jaunty blaze]

so real

[soft warren]

sigh…. rolling demo it is….

[rough flax]

If you are playing balance nobody wants you if you are not playing resto

[cedar bay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/blackhand/viquin what should i craft next?

[lofty depot]

w.e. the sim says

[dry compass]

one day of your graph is enough to trigger the mages

[lofty depot]

its not my graph

[foggy kelp]

wonder if porom is the most ignored individual on twitter of all time

300 billion tweets to the devs

[drifting nova]

just roll frost

duh

[ionic surge]

@dense steeple mount for 3.4k cant be bought yet right

[exotic perch]

i applaud porom hope he keeps it up

[delicate perch]

Mages when they aren’t #1, #2 and #3

[signal meteor]

is there any way in top gear to set items as acquired through the bonus rolls?

trying to get a sense of how much better using both to try and roll for vaelgor trinket would be than just sending both in xenas

[lofty depot]

run a droptimizer sim and look at expected value

[signal meteor]

and i also have one of the rings on myth track in vault, so if i got it out of dungeon i could take myth wep instead

[lofty depot]

because ur not looking at only those items but what value u would get on average from each of the items :/

granted when u take 1 item out of hte pool, the expected value from nxp will change but nonetheless

[signal meteor]

yeah okay that makes sense

[lofty depot]

id have to see what the increase from heroic vaelgors to mythic is

i feel like unless u have a hero vaelgors u should be sending on mythic vaelgors

but 2/6 items vs 1/4

[signal meteor]

i have hero, it says upgrading to 289 would be +912/0.9%

[lofty depot]

in 3 weeks that numbers would be 298 as well :/

[signal meteor]

yeah

[lofty depot]

but thats probably close to nxp

also depends on ur likelihood of extending soon

[signal meteor]

yeah i think ultimately it'll all be a wash

i asked officers and we're likely gonna at least reclear for the next few weeks for voidcore uses, and then prob just extend march anyway

so i do have more opportunities later, but that makes me think it's better to send on vaelgor loot cuz there's less loot on the table and all of it is upgrade

[leaden birch]

I swear lfr stare was clearing myth M+ trinks last time I simmed

[lucid olive]

yes

[fiery kindle]

sick boss

@lofty depot i need ur twitch pov, still available?

[lofty depot]

did u go look at my twitch or

[fiery kindle]

i look but i cant find

[lofty depot]

i highlighted the kill

my past broadcasts are all shown

[fiery kindle]

lemme check

[dense steeple]

I BELIEVE NOT

caps lock

[sleek dirge]

On P1 of Alleria, are you spending Starfall or Starsurge ?
i feel like Starfall can make some dmg to all three if you stand dead center, but Starsurge makes the dps race go a bit faster on each targets 🤔

[lofty depot]

if u stand in the center that means maybe ur tanks have harder time getting the droplets to the actual bosses

[sleek dirge]

that's what the RL wants... 🙁

[lofty depot]

well ur rl is wrong

[sleek dirge]

and yeah ive noticed the swarms of voidlings on my face. I tried a pull with only starfall and i was a bit swarmed. when i switched to starsurge, it was okay

[lofty depot]

i was essentially starfalling the ascendent buffs

then surging after cuz droplets were then on said boss and u gain more on st

[delicate perch]

raid leader wants p1 to take longer nice

Guys why are the big adds with 0% damage amp not dying???

[sleek dirge]

lul. his argument was that all casters are in the center to more easily rotate between ads

[lofty depot]

his argument is shit

[sleek dirge]

and melee are moving around

[delicate perch]

True since you do kill them all at the same time

[sleek dirge]

nice 😄

[lofty depot]

you gate to the other side

[sleek dirge]

maybe that's why it's been taking some time

[lofty depot]

and u sit between the 2 anyway

and ur not really doing increase damage on the 2nd add in your range anyway

because u need to kill the other one in time

[sleek dirge]

focus 1st add and just dot 2nd add, right ?

[lofty depot]

i dont both on start

which is also why i starfall so i can extend dot til when i can redot the 2nd add

which is around the 2nd interrupt cast

[sleek dirge]

aah make sense now to starfall yeah

[delicate perch]

You also want to help the small adds die when it has no damage amp

[edgy quarry]

Hello everyone ! I hope you are doing well. I need you

We are progressing on Crown MM with my guild and I need some advice to deal more. I feel a lack of damage

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pRWq9NYrGgdCXT8x?fight=24&type=damage-done&source=18

If someone see something i'm doing wrong ^^'

Thanks by advance 🙂

[keen perch]

Hello guys i have a question, is it better to upgrade crafted weapon with embe or regular myt weapon +´offhand?

[wispy lake]

I have a question: when do you use Vaelgor's Gaze on cooldown, or do you wait until you have Celestial Alignment up?

[jaunty blaze]

You always use it with CA

[sleek dirge]

hi, im not an expert but i did a comparison of your log with the built-in comparison tool.
Compared to at least two others who have roughly the same ilvl, you're not pressing starfall enough, especially in P2. They always had one starfall active and the rest was starsurge whereas you seem to press starfall much less on that part of the fight.

I don't know if that's the full reason you feel lacking dps, but it could be something to look into 😄

[lofty depot]

permission to draught on belo

[delicate perch]

Send it

[lofty depot]

[lofty depot]

ur moving and or dot moving a lot prior to cds

first global starfire kinda sus

jeeez

ur surging cosmos procs

thats wrong

[edgy quarry]

this is what i'm doing in record in this part

[lofty depot]

i dot morium

u entered eclipse and then sunfired

[sleek dirge]

with the upcoming Ascendant Voidforge, my sims say that Final Grade from Academy with crafted boots would be better than the craft 2h.
2nd is Multitool from Nexus Point.
Check with your character

[lofty depot]

why r u walking around the circle

it doesnt do damage

u casted 4 wraths with cosmos up ur lucky u didnt munch

disgusting bar

[edgy quarry]

thank you tts !! x)

it doesn't work so i need to see it but i agree

[lofty depot]

ur tts tells u to incarn like 6 seconds after i press mine

[edgy quarry]

u press it before 20s ?

[edgy quarry]

thank you I will look at that too...

[lofty depot]

yes

[edgy quarry]

To prior mono damage on demiar ? I was thinking doing right :x

[delicate perch]

20s sounds a bit late ya

Unless somehow your small adds just aren’t dying, but even then it’d probably throw off next usage

[lofty depot]

uhh u guys killing droplets giga late

[delicate perch]

There it is

[edgy quarry]

yep ! so at 24s demiar got much more buff

That's why I tried to delay a bit

[lofty depot]

well thats not the point

ur guild needs to be killing those faster

u should have 6 stacks at like 18-20s

u guys arent getting it til 24

fix that shit

[edgy quarry]

u are right.. :/ But we did'nt do faster in fact, cause they ask us to really prior mono damage and less cleave I will talk about it to my raid lead

And if I use my cosmos proc on starfall they will die sooner if some people cleave too

[lofty depot]

well i understand that

but u need to prio killing hte droplets on the boss

well "need"

[delicate perch]

The prio damage only matters when there’s damage amp

[lofty depot]

it would be less stress if u guys did it properly

[delicate perch]

Which is not getting put on the add

[lucid olive]

do you have the m33kaura to track the buff

[edgy quarry]

I don't !

[lucid olive]

are you using nsrt

[edgy quarry]

I am ! and Timeline reminder

[lucid olive]

the m33kaura is linked in nsrt somewhere

[edgy quarry]

Oh i go check then

[lucid olive]

but you also need to get the m33kauras addon if you dont have it

[edgy quarry]

I do have it I wasn't using it for now

[lofty depot]

that kinda crazy u put a sound on ur cosmos

and didnt press it for 10 seconds

[lucid olive]

it basically looks like this

just an icon with a timer and number on the right of the nameplate

you send CDs on Demiar at like 6 ish stacks

[edgy quarry]

i did that ? omg oups :x Maybe a try When i was less concentrate

[lucid olive]

imagine not spending your free spender

am i right

[edgy quarry]

got it

Yeah ofc it's a huge mistake

[lofty depot]

coudlnt be me

hmmm

gastank always right man

[dull dust]

gas is a spy

[edgy quarry]

So P1

Dot morium
More cleave
Track stack to optimise burst

In P2 I'm part of people who are bursting the rift
Dunno If you see other things?

[lucid olive]

i think reiterating to your guild that you want the droplets killed on demiar insta on pull is good, especially since its typically a fight with very few melee to meat grinder them

[dull dust]

guys is my druid getting the rerolls refunded

we shall see

[lofty depot]

when did u do ur rolls

also... im so lucky il lget the same items :/

[dull dust]

like middle of last night

[edgy quarry]

I see I will talk to my raid leader !

Using CD in P2 and P3 how it works ? I looked at lorrgs but it's kinda on cd ?

I feel I can do better

[quiet drift]

"we got the system working as intended on live realms at around 8:05 p.m. PDT on Wednesday, April 22 (05:05 CEST April 23)."
"We’re identifying every player-character who spent a Nebulous Voidcore before the fix and in the next day or so, we will grant them back to you in-game."

[edgy quarry]

yep ! Found it ! thanks !

[normal pilot]

does that mean if you spent a coin you get the coin back and you keep the item

[dull dust]

yea

one time u win by getting cucked

[lucid olive]

+1 vendor item for the duplicate cloak i got

[edgy quarry]

Thanks @lofty depot @lucid olive i will work on all of that 🙂

[dull dust]

whern are those getting refunded

[normal pilot]

should've just not gotten a duplicate

[dull dust]

my pally did it so early i should get it on them

[lucid olive]

theres also lots of kill vids for moonkin pov on youtube as well

[lofty depot]

sucks kinda for people that didnt send rerolls on their mythic kills

but like hwat u gonna do send it, and then next week get fucked cuz u got the dup again

idk tough spot

[edgy quarry]

Yeah for sure I will look at it !

I was wondering if is it good idea that i go on rift in P2 ? during BL

My RL wants maybe to take off one range for that

[lofty depot]

tell him to take a stinky range off of it likke mage

boomkin is good and starfall good

u can also just not target it and slam damage into alleria after dotting

[lucid olive]

honestly if you have an ele shaman

[edgy quarry]

we have

[lucid olive]

then you can just send 2 warlocks and a moonkin over with ele shaman

and just have the warlocks hit the boss instead

and just the shaman actually full hitting the simulacrum

you can hit boss as well and just starfall cleave it

[dull dust]

i kinda like this version of boost

[delicate perch]

Send it on nexus ring set

[dull dust]

better makes up for missing 10 vaults

[edgy quarry]

can be a good idea too yes !!

[lofty depot]

i did that

[lucid olive]

like this was our dmg on that first simulacrum

[edgy quarry]

And really easy to do

[lofty depot]

these are ppop

[lucid olive]

i just wild charged over, dotted it, sent CDs and like 2 Starsurges and turned around to boss

[lofty depot]

where ur damage stinky

[lucid olive]

not on the simulacrum

thats the dmg done while its up

[lofty depot]

is that damage total done

or to alleria

[edgy quarry]

we changed I did during the second part of the raid mostly btw

[tawny cloud]

Are you guys running different speccs for the bosses or do you just go with one specc for them all?

im running with a little different speccs taken from Logs. but when i sim to craft a new neck it changes stats on my rings n neck depending on what specc im using. should i just go with the stats that sims the highest?

[delicate perch]

Next week trust

[lofty depot]

blud gapping me

[edgy quarry]

and then mix starfall and starsurge i guess ?

[lofty depot]

starfall and surge alleria

[lucid olive]

yeah starfall on touch the cosmos or starweaver procs

then main surge alleria

[lofty depot]

i was tab targetting both for a bit

[lucid olive]

when the first adds spawn you starfall

you can be cringe like arctic and plan all your eclipses around the add spawns in p2

or you could be ethical giga gamer

[edgy quarry]

😂

[lofty depot]

do u want to r1 or u want to be gamz

[lucid olive]

?

[lofty depot]

we cant kill that in 1 pull and then suddenly my guild starts hitting adds

giga depresso

[lucid olive]

disregard that i got 3 externals

and its still a rank 2

behind another guy who got 3 externals

[lofty depot]

smh

i was trying man

[lucid olive]

meteor storm is such a degenerate talent

[lofty depot]

dont say that theyl ltake it away

[edgy quarry]

Thank you again I will continue to work on the fight... Next try on monday (maybe the kill ?)

[unkempt ore]

on dragons are people casting their wild mushroom on an orb when it spawns? it only seems particularly effective if every wave is mass gripped to me but i might be missing something, unless its also for the on demand AP

[lofty depot]

u would be correct

if u dont have 2 dks i doubt u need to play wild mushroom

[lucid olive]

if your team is stacked enough you can put it on the middle orb

[lofty depot]

wild mushroom mostly snipes pad

[fickle pier]

you dont need to do anything, that fight is so undertuned. But it's probably a damage gain due to funnel ala tindral

[lucid olive]

yeah its to fight against the devourers

[lofty depot]

ye

i have 3 man

[unkempt ore]

im padding my ass off but not feeling much value on the wild mushroom

[fickle pier]

target of target your devo macro and kill their target before their star prolapses

[lofty depot]

ur not padding ocrrectly then

[unkempt ore]

we have a single blood dk and i think he missed a couple of grips even

[lofty depot]

oh well tell him to play better

[unkempt ore]

i did but then i got punished by bonus rolling a cloak

[lofty depot]

or rather the person in the center if theyre correct

[fickle pier]

shroom did like 15% of my damage its really strong on that fight, though it doesnt matter. Those adds melt

[unkempt ore]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FKV8RNtHm4Yq3MXP?fight=44&type=damage-done&source=52 did 5% of mine last night lol

[lofty depot]

15%??

do u have afk people

[unkempt ore]

15 seems wild

[lofty depot]

sir what are we doing

[drifting nova]

illegal

deport from the discord instantly

[lofty depot]

ur casted incarn so late

U NEED TO BE 3ISH STARFALLS DEEP WHEN THEY SPAWN

[obsidian fox]

Can you use Ascendant Voidcores on every piece of equipment?

[lofty depot]

assuming those are the upgrade ilvl ones

no

[fickle pier]

trinkets and weapons

[obsidian fox]

Yes those are the ones that give extra lvls

[obsidian fox]

Only? wow

I thought you could at least use them on tier sets

[unkempt ore]

i was trying the reduced cd treants, threw my timings off a bit tbh

[obsidian fox]

Not even rings? D:

[lofty depot]

weapons and trinkets

[fickle pier]

teapons and wrinkets

[lofty depot]

idk starfiring in solar is wrong

and ur not prepping into void orbs

so ur doing negative damage

[obsidian fox]

Darn

Oh well, weapon first then, unless I manage to get Mdragons this weekend

thanks

[lofty depot]

idk id blast like 60mil in ur raid

ur orbs live 20 seconds its insane

[jolly delta]

👀

[unkempt ore]

Was mostly wondering about mushroom tbh but appreciate the feedback

i am starfiring in solar cause of starfiring to spend instant cast during incarn, id misunderstood that

i thought id read to always spend the instant cast on starfire somewhere but either thats changed or i misread

[lofty depot]

ik, and i fix ur damage

[jolly delta]

@craggy sonnet send me the broken planner import

[craggy sonnet]

what are you cooking now?

[jolly delta]

idk im just fixing dg

[craggy sonnet]

ah

the broken planner import..

uhhm

[jolly delta]

people donated so can't let them down

[craggy sonnet]

holy

[fair mist]

God I cannot believe I’ve been roped into healing paladins RIP.

What have I done to deserve this fate

[unkempt ore]

Do you do this on all the add wave phase bosses? I do tend to start starfalling after adds are active

[lofty depot]

ye usually

[unkempt ore]

ite thanks, ill play around with it try and bump these purples up to oranges

[delicate perch]

Probably by letting them know you can heal

[fair mist]

Gotta learn to shut my mouth at the start of tier I guess

[lucid olive]

oh nice, you got more donations after that one guy that asked you if he could be unbanned from the discord

[delicate perch]

Just int a few keys when you join a new guild

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-will-refund-nebulous-voidcore-bonus-rolls-in-the-coming-days-381366

hopefully you spent your cores

[lofty depot]

wow im sure he didnt see that yet

[jolly delta]

LETS GO

exploit early

bug early

whatever

[wild dune]

punished for being cautious btw

[teal sphinx]

yea used mine day 1 got gaze

now imma get 2 chances at a weapon uppie

[jolly delta]

Thank you for your passionate feedback the last couple of days. We really appreciate it.

[wild dune]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-kronii-mumei-burning-house-gif-26351138

[teal sphinx]

pit wep inc

[wild dune]

better see it

[obsidian fox]

Is this any good for boomkins? Like we have no shadow damage, but it's a "Very rare" drop from Alleria

[teal sphinx]

i got the AA one from vault, but that one is like 400dps higher

[wild dune]

i think garfrost is like omega bis right

cuz its so crit heavy

[obsidian fox]

And I think rings proc shadow

[wild dune]

im just happy i get 4 full crafts now

now im just staring down the barrel of another 500 myth crests to farm...

[teal sphinx]

allegedly if you have lura one thats omega bis, but im pretty sure everyone will end up with that one

[wild dune]

raiding is for stinkers so

garfrost will do

[lofty depot]

yes

but its not like pit one isnt bad

pit should be better

[dense steeple]

used mine day one got vaelgor, now i have 2 chances at something idk

[obsidian fox]

I got these, and I'm not sure if it's better to get a Mythic piece (cloak) or go for the Alleria's Neck

[elder remnant]

Bro just give everyone two and be done with it

[gaunt lantern]

I was very sad I looted pit neck in my first vault.. now that coins exist pretty happy fr

[dense steeple]

thats the correct thing to do yea

[teal sphinx]

vaelgor next week then heroic vaelgor

[elder remnant]

Yes the people who got dupes might be behind the people who held off or didn’t get dupes but they still get 1-2 chances at getting the loot they need anyway

[dense steeple]

the proper way to do this would be just attach +2 voidcores free reward from completing the machine, and then giving everyone currently whove done it just a free +2

[teal sphinx]

nah, let me benefit from exploit early exploit often for once

[elder remnant]

Well I didn’t bother doing the machine because it was bugged as hell

[elder remnant]

Bro you got exploited

[teal sphinx]

let me be a victim

[elder remnant]

That’s what I’m saying

[dense steeple]

i was victimized

with good luck

[delicate perch]

Double myth chest

[vital hound]

i raise you off hand on one character

shoulders & waist on another

(in slots i both already have myth)

[teal sphinx]

i raise both of you, myth track gaze

[delicate perch]

Mods ban this idiot

[civic junco]

am I big dooming to say that this game is borderline unplayable now?

Can someone tune me up and make me see the light

I dont wantt o leave the cult

[delicate perch]

What’s unplayable about it

You can log in

[civic junco]

I had to download an addon to hide all of the UI errors...c aused by default UI

this is insane

[lofty depot]

imagine knowing u have errors

i could never

[civic junco]

like what the fuck is going on

can we fire Ion

im begging

[delicate perch]

The “Your ui has errors” message is perma ignored by me

[lucid olive]

make a video about it

[civic junco]

im thinking about re-releasing my downfall edit

just to roast this incompetent ninny a second time

[ebon parcel]

hi wanted to ask opinion on how i can improve further
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4yNaTjwGFqXxMknz?fight=19&type=damage-done&source=18

[bleak junco]

i never get to play balance in dungeons... I always end up tanking D:

[lofty depot]

presumably u spamming surge when the ring about to come out

just sit on a surge to move instead of canceling

[ebon parcel]

roger that

ranked a 79% in there
i must be doing some major mistakes

[onyx zinc]

What are we thoughts on the new meteroites for m+ gang gang after the patch has been out for a few days

[lofty depot]

not padding adds

no dots

this pretty cooked in incarn

essentially spam dotting boss cuz ur not prepping for movement

[vital hound]

i dont have any

idk how but my ui is goated

[ebon parcel]

ok so my damage on adds can be improved.
basically i dot them up then i go incarn and focus more on add dps ?
i was focusing on boss damage thats why didnt bother to dot the add

[lofty depot]

well ur asking why ru damage is bad

ur not padding so ur not doing damage

[clever vigil]

hey arctic quick boomkin question why is my class blue ?

[dense steeple]

@lofty depot what do i roll

[tall creek]

is this bis neck? or reroll token angle?

[lofty depot]

shrug

[lofty depot]

u could sim it

[thorny wagon]

do i even need to track eclipse sides?

i feel like i should

[obsidian fjord]

what is a side

[thorny wagon]

solar lunar

[obsidian fjord]

do you just mean which eclipse

[thorny wagon]

yes

[obsidian fjord]

i mean yes

its partially automated now i guess but still worth tracking

[atomic jackal]

Who would be a good boomy to get some coaching/log reviews?

[obsidian fjord]

dangerous quesiton

[lucid olive]

just post a log here and surely someone takes the time to look at it

[vernal pollen]

starting crown prog tomorrow. Can we stand in the middle for giga pad like heroic or nah

[lucid olive]

no

[vernal pollen]

didnt think so

[lucid olive]

there are kill videos on youtube in moonkin pov

think everyone pretty much played it the same

[delicate perch]

“Someone” @lofty depot

[lofty depot]

@lucid olive think its better to just up 1 dot on egg in the middle there or

[lucid olive]

no clue

[lofty depot]

would u just delete the line or

hmm

maybe i proc'd higher the few pulls i just refreshed moonfire

butttttttttttttttttttt idk

also if my fucking convoke would just refresh it

[next sedge]

i wasnt locked in smh

[lofty depot]

woinder if u just send convoke laterrrr and it refresh it better

[next sedge]

im not usually one to gaf about parses but i feel like i should be proud of a 93 on a first kill

[vital hound]

there's a good clip of a boomkin jumping off the edge as well

[whole hornet]

is there a way to track stellar amp

dont see it in the cdm anywhere

[lofty depot]

not on cdm or frames

boss frames :/

hmmm

[whole hornet]

this game is so fried

[elder remnant]

any changes to m+ build this week or am i good with this

[lofty depot]

is good

[dull dust]

lowkey ng feels so nice

[rigid flame]

For the class tree I would suggest changing intervate to fluid form. There are a few debuffs/abilities you can shift out of and saving a global each time feels good

[delicate perch]

For the class tree I would suggest logging off and not doing a minigame

[elder remnant]

in 12 i don't care

i like annoying my healers with "innervate on you"

[lucid olive]

Nature's grace over mushroom is fun

Can Shadowmeld for some dam

[elder remnant]

[lofty depot]

👀

[elder remnant]

fuck

[vital hound]

[ionic oak]

hate to see others live your dreams

[dusty thorn]

I have a question for playing rattle the stars - apl is saying to use a touch the cosmos proc on starfall over starsurge in a 1 target sim. Would it not be better to spend on a starsurge?

[lofty depot]

u dont use cosmos on starfall if u dont play weaver

[vital hound]

egg burn?

[lofty depot]

yea

[dense steeple]

bro i offered a guy who looted heroic gaze 150k in a pug

like quietly in a dm

and he immediately /y CURRENT OFFER 150K WHO CAN BEAT THAT

[vital hound]

EC not worth

[lofty depot]

??

[vital hound]

you can get owned by a shit pie slice rng

and you dont cast for 6 minutes

and its joever

[lofty depot]

no u dont

[vital hound]

also p1 damage isnt as free as you would think for people in guilds like ours

[lofty depot]

that shit free as fuck boi

[vital hound]

kotg good

[lofty depot]

?

ec does more in p1

lock in

[mild chasm]

🤣 🤣

[vital hound]

not when im playing chief keef

lock out

[wraith dirge]

[vital hound]

last boss as a boomkin

(get me out)

[wraith dirge]

Rank 1 Balance in M+ is running 27% crit

[lofty depot]

LOL

i actually dont know tbf

[dense steeple]

i respect his hustle but at the same time fuck that guy

[vital hound]

kotg does own intermission

are there ec logs? i havent looked since yesterday

[lofty depot]

yes

[mild chasm]

Can Imagine there been some Higher offers .. but ya fugg that guy

[mild chasm]

Iirc its the Guy running arcanoweave lining twice, dont know If that actualy made sense

[dense steeple]

its also just on my alt so like who cares tbh

bedge time

[wraith dirge]

Nope, his off-hand is The Hunt

[mild chasm]

Oh i was mistaken, sorry

[pseudo merlin]

ur good qt

[lofty depot]

we have final ascension

[elder remnant]

ty bestie

[pseudo merlin]

[weary lodge]

would any kind soul be able to explain why we fill wraith with no eclipse in EC on st, is wraith just more efficient without the lunar bonus'?

[jolly delta]

@lucid olive now we need someone to write guides tho

[slender island]

#balance message

[weary lodge]

makes sense, thankies

[hollow mist]

@lucid olive i am training an army of moonkin babies to fight for u. they already know how to moonfire. they will kill for u soon.

[craggy sonnet]

look at their little murder mittens

[hollow mist]

holy moly clankz orange what a time to be alive grats yo thats sick

[jolly delta]

@lofty depot guides when

[craggy sonnet]

truly groundbreaking event! thanks tho

[lucid olive]

I admire your dedication to the cause. I will need all the Moonkins to be battle ready before the revolution!

[cobalt junco]

yoo im just starting to prog crown and im looking through logs and see some full SS bosses and only starfall with starweaver procs. and some spam starfall wats the best to do?

i feel starfall till bosses are like 50% with lots off debuff stacks then dump SS right?

[lucid olive]

Yeah do that

Starfall good, but Starsurge to finish off the boss that has high stacks

[cobalt junco]

thought so! was just making sure, dont wanna grieft the raid. but gotta pad a bit for that LOGGGG smile

[honest musk]

Too much padding this raid, I hate logs

Actually I love logs, they teach

I hate rankings

[lucid olive]

Agree

[tawny cloud]

Hey im running a little differenet talents on the bosses(different talents in Kotg not from EC) , im trying to craft a neck but when i sim the differenet specs it changes the stats on my rings and gems and also want different stats on the necklace. any tips for this?

[cobalt junco]

from what i mostly see, u want mastery as most stat. then more crit than haste.

[cobalt junco]

also neck craft? u got mythic bracers/hands/belt/feet? for neck id say choker from pit of mythic salad bar

[tawny cloud]

i got myth bootes, gloves and crafted wrist

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4spZxQrUUJxLVBFh1RMHcm

[cobalt junco]

yeah fari enough u geared

[lucid olive]

Why are you simming all of the ring enchants except the good one

[delicate perch]

meta slaves the lot of you

[lucid olive]

I thought people had caught on that the Eagle enchant is busted

After the wowhead articles

[delicate perch]

I couldn't get anything to beat it before the rando buff

[lucid olive]

Yeah it was already the best one before the buff

[tawny cloud]

Because i dont know any better simple as that

[delicate perch]

based

[rough flax]

How would you position? Middle is prob griefing the adds away from the boss so in between 2, the one you focusing and the ones thats next?

[lucid olive]

With the rest of your team

[lone turret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dVrdopRAbe2dCc3CamXwNz

[sonic surge]

With the refund of the item roll voidcore, assuming I spent it trying to get heroic vaelgor, can I go pug it and roll again despite not being eligible for loot?

I remember you could do roll once each time even if locked out of loot with the old coin roll system

[fossil hemlock]

Yolo it, it's only heroic

It shouldn't be a huge waste of time

[livid jay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Bm2CxPpwfNchFYrt?fight=7&type=damage-done
the things you do to get the bonus roll tokens cause u didnt do the quest the last 6 weeks

[junior stirrup]

Will this not kill adds in bad places potentially? Im guessing its worth sf when we gate to middle and finishing moriun then hitting vorellue?

Indidnt starfall at all on our first night maybe thats trolling

We were struggling to kill last miniboss in time

[lofty depot]

Not if u stand not in the middle

[lofty depot]

That's just people learning how to do damage tbf

Can also be a mix of tanks not taunting droplets in

[tawny cloud]

thats what i ended up doing. thanks

[lucid olive]

Don't fall for the "Starfall is never ethical" spreaders

The Droplets need to be killed asap on Demiar

A lot of them also love to hit healers with healing threat, so if you get threat instead it's generally easier to control

You just Starsurge to help finish off the bosses when they have racked up buffs

[junior stirrup]

Yeah we found killing demiar was ok, but last boss was our issue. Probs a facor of not swapping off moriun early enough, and having melee heavy comp no sp etc. we made it a few times but was sketchy. Was watxhing echoes vods and your movement is much cleaner which helps a lot

We had a few adds die in the middle on kast mini, the ones that would have been under morium after it died. I noticed in ur vod reholt pulls them all the way over and they live

[royal zenith]

you start swapping off of each add around 20%ish

send dk's and tanks earlier if possible

and yeah, getting enough adds on boss is the determining factor

[junior stirrup]

Yeah makes sense will try that

[lofty depot]

Also, if u pull some off of morium u kill it slower, depends what stacks it's at

[royal zenith]

you want the next add to have like 7 stacks-ish

[lofty depot]

Think it usually gets a lot tho

[royal zenith]

possibly more

[junior stirrup]

Yeah i think we fucked that up

Also i think cds too early on demiar

[lofty depot]

Also a lot of guilds slow on killing droplets for demiar early

[junior stirrup]

When do you pop? I was doing at 4 staxks ish

Ie after first obelisk movement

Too early?

[lofty depot]

U need to get 6 stacks prior to 20s

[junior stirrup]

Ok then thats an issue we need to fix

As we didnt manage that

Think aoe on pull was weak

[lofty depot]

Need DK to grip droplets from morium

[junior stirrup]

Ya we did that

From each side

But they live long

Somehow

[lofty depot]

Yea

[junior stirrup]

Just badd add management

And ppl scared to not st

Maybe

[lofty depot]

Then go look at everyone's CDs and see when they're sending

[junior stirrup]

Ya

[fallen wyvern]

hey, is there in midnight smth to remind if we are not in moonking form, as the old weakaura?

[lofty depot]

Change all ur human form icons to wrath or Starfire and always run fluid form

Mmhm mmhm

I think the buffs reminder addon does it? Not sure

[fresh hill]

Do I generally hold my second incarn in m+ to line up with valegores when it comes off cd again?

[true fog]

anyone made a spreadsheet or smth for best bonusrolls assuming no gear currently?

[ruby badger]

If all things are equal yeah

[lofty depot]

Likely not no

[ruby badger]

but if you roll up to a fat pull with no vaelgors but a charge of incarn

not worth to hold

[fresh hill]

Gotcha

[lofty depot]

Wowhead has a list ish

[fresh hill]

Ty!

[true fog]

right thanks

[dusky orchid]

How do yall evem track stacks on crown for the droplet debuff on the bosses, i cant see it

[ruby badger]

nsrt

can see debuff count on the mobs nameplates

[dusky orchid]

Whats nsrt

Addon?

[ruby badger]

Yeah Northern Sky Raidtools

Useful suite of features for raiding

[dusky orchid]

Oo nice thanks

[fresh pebble]

Hey all 🙂 I´m 277 ilvl. Have both the gaze as as trinkets and was just wondering what dps is realistic in raid battles and in m+. Simming gives a bit higher amount than i am able to actually get, so was just wondering what the "baseline" is around

[lofty depot]

U have to download another addon called m33kauras

[dusky orchid]

Xd

[round field]

weakauras died for nothing

[lofty depot]

Well simming isnt something u use to determine what DPS u should be doing.

[round field]

wrong!

[lofty depot]

There are also aren't any fights that are 1t5m so using for specifically that isn't helpful easier

Better to post a log of what ur doing and someone can figure out why ur not doing damage

[craggy sonnet]

someone

[fresh pebble]

never really done that.. XD

[craggy sonnet]

you can just straight tell the guy you want to rip their log apart

[round field]

first time for everything

[lofty depot]

Trying to rip my egg sim apart

We shall prevail!!

[fresh pebble]

I play Zeblackowl on Twisting Neather. I had a bad dungeon, as I had my fishing hat on. I don´t do a lot of m+ and raiding other than puggin Heroic

[maiden temple]

Question about FoE usage in M+: is there any scenario to hold Fury for Eclipse or vice versa? Or is it always better to send (assuming you're not at the end of a pull etc.) either if they don't line up? Then I guess same question for Incarn - should I hold Fury for some amount of time if Incarn is coming up?

[lofty depot]

Generally if ur already I engaged in a pack ur not pressing incarn in the middle of it

So u send foe, and then prep into the next pack

[maiden temple]

What about for Eclipse?

It feels a bit wonky sending them 5-10s apart if they dont line up but I get you need to have as much FoE uptime as possible

Same for Eclipse

[alpine star]

Probably a bad habit but I stopped waiting for FoE lineups and my dps improved

[maiden temple]

That's helpful ty <3

[lofty depot]

Depends on the pack, knowing if ur gonna send eclipse innit or wait to send eclipse prior to incarn in a big pack

For the most part, for the uninitiated, u lose damage holding shit, so better to send until u understand more flow of dungeons

[maiden temple]

Not following what you mean here

[lofty depot]

That's the uninitiated part

U learn which pulls u need to send 2 eclipses in and which ones u just kind of float the CD to the next one

[maiden temple]

I'm with you now

Makes sense, cheers

[lofty depot]

Which is also the minmax of aoe... Because eclipsing prior to incarn is an increase but the pack needs to live long enough

[maiden temple]

Do you mean eclipse -> play out eclipse -> incarn OR eclipse for lunar bolts -> incarn straight away

Assuming the former

[lucid olive]

Bit of both

Depends how long the fight is

Playing 12 seconds of Lunar before using Incarn means that you have gained the Eclipse charge back when your Incarn runs out

You can use Eclipse while dotting if your intention is to Incarn right after

[lofty depot]

U don't fully play the lunar out just the initial part for dotting and the buffed starfalls

Hmm, why cats bad with ec

Lol, gamz forgot about initial asp line

Big gamer 0.2% inc

[lucid olive]

what

oh you mean you forgot

i'm not interacting with your 30s egg sim

[lofty depot]

Lol

[lucid olive]

waste of time imo

[lofty depot]

Bored

[jolly delta]

@lofty depot why are u ignoring me

[lofty depot]

IM BUSYING CREATING DAMAGE

Uhh, I have a bunch of shit written out, but didn't finish it

I give u this weekend

Mmmhm mmhm

[jolly delta]

how about we get busy creating content instead

[jolly delta]

ok good

love u

thoughts on the new instance cards??

need to tune down the effects

Mmmhm mmhm

[lofty depot]

Uhhh

One aec

Whoa

The Lazer be moving

[jolly delta]

ye its too distracting

[lofty depot]

Smh

[jolly delta]

rest turned out well imho

except that

this is the content inside smh

[lofty depot]

Is good yea

Really nothing ur gonna add to that tho

[jolly delta]

"pad on ads"

[lofty depot]

Actually big grief question

If u stand on the soaker, does a different person have to soak u and the other person

Or can 1 person soak both stacked

[jolly delta]

2 people

[lofty depot]

Damn

Gotta pay someone so u pad

[silk veldt]

Do you guys know how the nexus point rings damage proc scales? Is it based off the ring ilvl?

[jolly delta]

need to do a bit of work on the dg.gg brand identity

idk

not being paid enough

[lofty depot]

Brand identity...

[jolly delta]

kek

[lucid olive]

I remember I had some ideas for those pages when I tried to write Undermine stuff

but I forgot what

if Arctic is writing some shit there should probably invite him to the discord btw

[royal zenith]

dear lord

[royal zenith]

he'll add that damned peanut everywhere

[jolly delta]

maybe this is better

[silk veldt]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1281579/twilight-barrage#modified-by

I think the damage scales off ilvl of the rings?

[lucid olive]

that would make sense yes

[jolly delta]

true

[silk veldt]

Was wondering if it was worth it to upgrade them yet or not basically and wasn’t sure if the sim was accounting for that

[fiery kindle]

locken

[lucid olive]

the sim does

[silk veldt]

Ty

[lofty depot]

Normal or

[lucid olive]

the 2set dmg isn't very large though

it's like 0.5% in a 5 min quick sim

[silk veldt]

On my sim it’s like 3.4% somehow

[lofty depot]

Show sim

[lucid olive]

link

[fiery kindle]

i dont think i 100 parse on myhtic difficulty xd

unf im not good

[silk veldt]

Running it again one sec

[lofty depot]

Smh

[lucid olive]

might proc more in some builds than others

assume it procs off direct attacks only

so Starweaver builds with Meteorites might saturate the proc

I could be making that up tho

[silk veldt]

I ran the sim in my m+ build cuz that’s what I mostly play

I’ll link when it’s done

[lucid olive]

maybe do a cheeky @normal pilot and see if he knows what the Nexus Point rings proc off

[lofty depot]

Your spells silly

[silk veldt]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8tSoUnUrps1sjUsig72WXv

[lofty depot]

Iirc it's 2 + haste

[lucid olive]

ye thats still 0.5%

[lofty depot]

Show sim with 3.4% tho

[lucid olive]

he could have been looking at ascendant eclipses

[silk veldt]

Yea I must have fucked something up on the other sim lol

[lucid olive]

icons look familiar

[lucid olive]

click the burger and find the old sim

[lofty depot]

Big

fire burger

[silk veldt]

I don’t have an account I might have been looking at the other buff cuz I did it on my phone

[lucid olive]

probably

[silk veldt]

But yea that sim I just ran shows .5 like u were saying

I have mythic ones now so I’m gonna do a sim when I get home to see if it’s worth the crests now versus a potential item from raid tonight

[lucid olive]

good rule is to save your crests until after reclear

and then spend them for the bosses you're trying to kill but haven't yet

[silk veldt]

Yea hopefully we can kill mythic chimaeras and rip the trinket

If they refund the void cores before tonight that would be huge lol

I think coining chimaeras is my best bet right now since I have a heroic vaelgore and we’re not close to killing dragons

[round field]

i want 2 voidcores extra

[silk veldt]

You had to risk it for biscuit man

[round field]

i dont like biscuits

[silk veldt]

Hehehe

[lofty depot]

I risked it and got 0 biscuits

[round field]

gg

[lofty depot]

Naturally I'm gonna spend them again and get the same items

[round field]

they should just give everyone 2 extra

why not

[lofty depot]

Cuz u weren't disadvantaged

[silk veldt]

Yea I basically can’t roll on nexus point anymore since I full natty ripped both rings before the bug fix was in kek, actual luck ball

[round field]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-3572040316452832612

[lofty depot]

@ mods ban that mother fucker

[silk veldt]

I think they should give everyone two more though

But I guess since the loot tables are fixed it’s not the same

Cuz the original rolls were disadvantaged

[lucid olive]

wdym loot tables are fixed

[round field]

thats debatable right on a case to case basis

[lucid olive]

I rolled Skyreach twice and got the same cloak

I can use the refunded voidcore and get the same cloak again

[round field]

people who rolled good and dont have to roll again get 2 items extra for free