balance

[ruby badger]

I like Boomy rotation

[round field]

balance is just

bland

[lucid olive]

eye beam making blade dance/deaths dance reset into meta making it reset into another eye beam

[round field]

weaver makes a bit better

but eh

[wind ledge]

Feels like we just need raw dmg tuning

[royal zenith]

it's not bland

it's just bad

[lucid olive]

the prune to classes before the expansion took a lot of specs damage and baked it into their CDs

[round field]

bland is bad

[lucid olive]

but they already did that for moonkin before TWW

[royal zenith]

you're working twice as hard as other classes for similar to lower dps

[fiery kindle]

Where is the location for upgrades ( 298 inc )

[lucid olive]

so we went the opposite direction where we lost damage in CDs in order to have more dmg outside

[round field]

in 4 weeks

[royal zenith]

they gave us like what, 6 to 7 (heh) rotational buttons to press and made it feel worse than devourer with 4 buttons

[wind ledge]

Other dps want more dmg outside of CDs lol

[royal zenith]

that's pretty impressive

[lucid olive]

you could say that moonkin is +1 expansion ahead in class design

[round field]

[lucid olive]

they removed pulsar to simplify the spec before TWW and baked all our dmg into CDs

[fiery kindle]

gaze is myth btw

[lucid olive]

and for midnight they did the same for everyone else

[lucid olive]

cool

[fiery kindle]

the game is over

[royal zenith]

we're like 6 weeks in

very impressive

[digital berry]

I’m boutta play double on use cause gaze cucked me

[round field]

noob

[lucid olive]

so i have to do 3 keys just to unlock the rolls at all right

[delicate perch]

3 activites ya

bountiful devles/raid bosses/keys

[round field]

slam lfr wing and afk

[lucid olive]

zzz

[digital berry]

If you in a pinch second monitor lfr is the way

[delicate perch]

(get quest first though )

[lucid olive]

surely timewalking counts

[delicate perch]

one way to find out..

[delicate perch]

what even is the 2nd on use

[digital berry]

Surely

[delicate perch]

surely void trinket is just better

[digital berry]

Stare and ribbon

[lucid olive]

ribbon is not an on-use

??

[digital berry]

Well if I 6/6 myth ribbon it’s like a 1%

[delicate perch]

banger

[royal zenith]

the other ribbon..

2sec channel ribbon.....

[digital berry]

Wait wtf is it called

[lucid olive]

wraps..

[digital berry]

Whoops

[royal zenith]

chicken wrap

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

shawarma trinket

[delicate perch]

don't you just press that

[lofty depot]

Can do t1 bountifuls

I did LFR for the initial quest, then t1 bountifuls for the other

[delicate perch]

can you link sim where it beats void trinket

it's currently -2% at max myth for me

[charred mango]

t1 bountiful works but t5 ritual site doesn’t

[round field]

whats a ritual site

[lucid olive]

wtf is a ritual site

[charred mango]

new mole ppl content

[delicate perch]

new for fun world activity

not for gamers

[charred mango]

actually t2 void recolors are a dps gain

[lucid olive]

did they fuck up world boss scaling or

i just did it in 30 man group and it took like 6 seconds LOL

[delicate perch]

maybe you're just that strong

[lucid olive]

possibly

[digital berry]

I can’t cause it doesn’t exist , I made it up it’s a dps lost at 6/6 against champ void

[delicate perch]

champ void the real OP trinket

[mystic heath]

Anyone ever got their mythic + completion rolled back?

I did my last 17 needed yesterday and after logging in it's like it never happened

except I still have the resil 17 achieve

but io is reverted and on my interface it shows a 16 on NPX

[silk veldt]

If I have a mythic chest catalyzed from m+ does it remove it from the chimaeras loot pool?

[delicate perch]

no

ask me how I know

[silk veldt]

Rip homie

Ty for your sacrifice

[delicate perch]

next week for sure

[royal zenith]

[silk veldt]

Bro I ripped the rings from nexus point first 2 rolls

Ez

[lofty depot]

Mods ban the rat

[delicate perch]

reported

[royal zenith]

there will be probably be insane amount of 'bad rolls' anyway

can't wait for people to perma complain about it

like with vault

[lofty depot]

I'll get 1 ring for sure next week if I take reroll tokens from vault

[silk veldt]

The way my vaults worked out I had basically no bricks from nexus point as feral spec

So I sent it and got the rings

Only brick would have been cloak so I did that instead of coining chim

But it really sucks that you can get the chest from chim even if you have mythic chest

[digital berry]

It sucks that you can get a duplicate of an item you already have, at least myth chest and chimera chest are two different items

[silk veldt]

I have chest and shoulders in my vault right now, I think I do a cheeky wait and see on chim this week

Do you guys ever feel bad sandbagging a vault? I guess it doesn’t matter if it’s the first couple bosses tho

[lofty depot]

That's not sandbagging if u tell ur rl

[silk veldt]

True thx

[tepid ferry]

Hey guys! Been a while since I have played chicken now so wanted to ask if boomies have a go-to dungeon when they sim? Like I know you sim for a route but is there a dungeon that sims the most ''accurate'' than other dungeons? Pugging most of the time so routes are different every time 🙂

[lucid olive]

not really

i just go to keystone guru and pick a weekly route and sim that

but also just rip 1 target 5 minute patchwerk and it's more than fine

[tepid ferry]

ahh ok, that makes it so much easier then 😛 Thanks!

[charred mango]

the worst part of raiding 1 day is that sandbagging my vault takes eons

reset Tuesday raid Saturday

[lofty depot]

Raiding 1 day is crazy

[silk veldt]

Same bro we raid fridays only and sometimes Saturday optional if we’re close to a kill

[charred mango]

it’s not crazy

it’s a viiiibe

[silk veldt]

If you don’t want hall of fame it’s goated

[charred mango]

excuse u

we got hof chim

very real and good hof

[silk veldt]

Oh shiiiiii

Gz Gz

[lofty depot]

Hof has nothing to do with it

[silk veldt]

What’s wrong with 1 day tho?

[ruby badger]

Very limited reclears or limited prog

[charred mango]

the time crunch, not having the prog mental reset where you come back the next raid night and everything clicks, losing a large chunk of your week if your roster suddenly forgets how to interrupt the gd adds on chimaerus

there’s obv downsides

[royal zenith]

that doesnt make 1 day worse though

cause you already choose to have less prog if you go 1 day

[vale pebble]

if u compare 2day 2h vs 1day 4h 2day is always better

[charred mango]

prob

but

[royal zenith]

this is a fair comparison

[charred mango]

it’s way easier for people to raid with us on a second character as 1/4

[vale pebble]

i wouldnt want my guild to be that tbf

but its a good point if thats what u want yea

[charred mango]

and that’s why our evokers are squishei and sang

[silk veldt]

Yea I mean my guild is an alt guild basically

[vale pebble]

all 1day guilds are that no?

ig

thats the point of it yea

[charred mango]

can be

[vale pebble]

if it is not why would u play 1day guild

[silk veldt]

I think if you spend a lot of time m+ and pvp then a 1 day is attractive

[charred mango]

I think we have 6 people that main raid elsewhere out of 25

[delicate perch]

could you imagine having an alt @royal zenith raid with you

logout

[charred mango]

maybe 7

[vale pebble]

[charred mango]

I SPECIFICALLY cut those numbers up into separate lines

hate u

[delicate perch]

you could've just not said one of them

but you didn't

[charred mango]

shut up

[delicate perch]

[silk veldt]

Raiding is sick but the time commitment is hard

[charred mango]

I was gonna say our guild is also just old but ig I don’t have a good sense of how old the player base is these days

[silk veldt]

I think flex mythic is a great idea to make it so you can have a more loose attendance policy

[lofty depot]

So u can sit the worst 7 people

Mmhm mmhm

[silk veldt]

LUL

[charred mango]

flex mythic is gonna be really toxic if the inflection points for when you get less or more of a mechanic are noticeable

[lofty depot]

Assume the boss is xavius

[silk veldt]

Probably at the top end but for a lot of people it will be good I think

[lofty depot]

I think it's worse at the bottom

Not the top

[silk veldt]

How so

[sly wadi]

Yeah, the difference between #1 dps and #14-15 on liquid is waaaaay smaller than on some rando top 100 mythic guild

you'll get way more value benching #15 at the lower end of the bracket than you would at the top

[silk veldt]

Fair point lol

[charred mango]

definitely gonna see some guilds that demonstrate the section of “people we have to bring to get up to 20”

[lofty depot]

In my alt 2 day guild we used to call it seal team 6

Where we killed rasz with 12 people cuz the other 10 just couldn't figure it out

[charred mango]

rasz (in s1) is the last time we didn’t kill a mythic end boss

[silk veldt]

Yea my guild is a mix of newer players and ringers from a top guild so we cover the whole parse color spectrum lol

[vale pebble]

is that not a problem for ur guild?

ig the top players truly dgaf

[charred mango]

now we have good pull counts for new kills and bad pull counts for farm

[silk veldt]

Not really, lots of friends.

[lofty depot]

Yea so if u can flex the newer players out cuz ur not killing the boss u wouldn't?

U would just sit there wiping until they didn't get the mechanic that wiped ur raid or

[silk veldt]

If it ever gets to the point where we can’t kill it with the newer players that’s the plan probably

[lofty depot]

Ok, so that's toxic

Welcome to the conversation

[silk veldt]

Rip

[charred mango]

blame the system, embrace toxicity

[silk veldt]

I’m a newer raider and from my perspective the hardest part seems to be getting 20 people to show up lol

Idk man blizzard has quite the problem to solve

[charred mango]

if you are a mythic guild that struggles to reach 20 to do the raid then sporefall will be a benefit for sure

[lofty depot]

Well that's also the commitment part not necessarily that 1 day is easier... But that the people that want to 1 day raid don't have the same commitment levels as people that would 2day/3day

[charred mango]

hm

[silk veldt]

Yea that’s so true

[charred mango]

I think for me I have the commitment to my 1 day schedule that I did when I was top 100 raiding 16 hrs (and couldn’t devote to that schedule now mentally) but you’re probably right for a lot of folks

[silk veldt]

On a different note, do you guys think boomy will be seen in the .1 keys or relegated to the bench

[lofty depot]

Well raiding in multiple alt guilds, its generally people that play the game 1/2 days a week not that they only want to raid 1 day lol

[charred mango]

Yeah we def have some of those

[lofty depot]

Not doing their keys, not doing their homework on fights, overall skill level lower both mechanically and class rotationally

[charred mango]

but also a lot of people who just key all week

[lofty depot]

Actually was funny the first time I did it... U noticed how shit ur healers are it shit guilds

Cuz u just fall over for fun

[silk veldt]

Yea, slamming keys all week is a vibe

[charred mango]

we did have a lot more people than I expected first learn about bonus rolls and the quest chain last week…

[silk veldt]

Need to get these people a dratnos sub

[charred mango]

like I said

one of our raiders is a wowhead admin

we have access to information!

that’s the commitment part

[silk veldt]

There is time commitment and mental commitment. Time commitment can be hard, mental commitment is not. Lock in

[lofty depot]

I mean, by the time u get to bosses everything is figured out

There's 100s of guides out

Generally it's not the lack of information

It's the lack of care

[silk veldt]

Welcome to planet earth bro, it’s not just wow

[lofty depot]

Well yea on the low end of human nature yes

[charred mango]

sadly

[silk veldt]

What comp would you guys want to run for boomy in m+ if you could pick anything

[lofty depot]

Depends if u wanted all the fun buffs to boost ur damage

Or just the best meta classes around u

[silk veldt]

Best comp for pushing 1% keys let’s say. Cuz that’s probably just a mix of meta stuff right

[lofty depot]

1% is like 2-4 levels under title and u can push that with any comp tbf

[silk veldt]

That’s good

[charred mango]

brew aug devourer priest and bribe the priest to pi me instead of dev

[silk veldt]

Brother I’m just happy to be in the group, send the PIs on the devourer lol

[charred mango]

you said I could pick anything

[silk veldt]

Ik Ik I was trying to be funny

[charred mango]

I was kidding

[silk veldt]

Rip

[charred mango]

but yea

it’s really

[sturdy nova]

Can i bonus roll on a boss that im already saved? So if i kill dragons today, can I go and bonus roll it later in the week ?

[charred mango]

brew, aug, someone who keeps me alive, a dps

[lofty depot]

Go try it so I have knowledge, thanks

[maiden pasture]

bonus rolling on heroic not good

[sturdy nova]

Im a chump

[junior stirrup]

Would it be worth me taking the Myth 2H weapon or is it kinda a waste? I know theoretically we want a crafted weapon so we can use hunt right? Or are 2x other embells worth taking late season as a move towards "BiS"

hands might be ok pick but i dunnop

[silk veldt]

I think you can take the staff and craft hands? If it’s good stats

[charred mango]

looks like a weapon and craft gloves angle to me

can add the crafted gloves to your sim and then the robot can be more accurate than us

[silk veldt]

Could also craft cloak

[junior stirrup]

so its not mega bad to drop hunt and go for double arcano or whatever? Shall sim rn give me a sec 😄

[silk veldt]

Long term you will want a 289 weapon and if the stats on it are not troll it’s fine here I think

[junior stirrup]

yeah its high mast low crit

which is great

that staff

[charred mango]

oh nice i said weapon when i thought it was crit haste

[graceful path]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/azralon/cajox

I was unsure which item I should craft. I was thinking about the trinket because I can't get the one from the Chimerus.

[silk veldt]

Well the staff will be a dps loss at first because you will need to put arcanoweave on something

But once you shift the embellishment it will be an upgrade for long term

[charred mango]

you can add lining to the craft in sim

so it’ll account for that

[warm briar]

The staff from nexus point is pretty nice

[silk veldt]

The staff from sky reach is also good, haste mastery

[warm briar]

Could waste a roll on that, once they fix the duplicate item bug

[charred mango]

yeah I’m waiting to hear about the bug from blizzard but

[junior stirrup]

seems to be the play

craft hands with arcano, take wep

[charred mango]

npx has 7 items for balance which includes a good weapon, two tier slots that I currently have hero, and rings

[silk veldt]

If you have a weapon I recommend rolling nexus point as feral

[charred mango]

could also roll as cat/bear and take the weapon off the table but guarantee rings sooner

[lofty depot]

Imagine rolling as balance and not feral

Ain't no way

[charred mango]

I already said

[lofty depot]

Rolling belo for weapon mmhm mmhm

[charred mango]

belo is far away

[lofty depot]

Nah it's next week

Locken

[charred mango]

hm

I’m not saying I don’t believe you

I’m just saying I expect we’ll kill dragons and start paladins on Saturday

[livid jay]

Lockenstock?

[silk veldt]

Isn’t the most value dragons and chim?

[warm briar]

I’ll eventually kill mythic belo… my casualish guild still progging l’ura on heroic

And yeah dragons and chim with the bis trinkets

[lofty depot]

Depends what trinkets u already have

[lucid olive]

If you already have hero track Vaelgor you can probably chill on rolling for mythic Vaelgor and go for other pieces instead

[lofty depot]

Seems sus to prog heroic Lura instead of mythic bosses

[livid jay]

yea we still havent pulled hc lura yet xD

[lucid olive]

Vaelgor is very good trinket but the increase between hero to myth isn't that large compared to increase you can get in other slots

[lofty depot]

We did like 5 pulls to set up the weakauras / macros

[warm briar]

We’re completionists so like to get heroic on farm before moving to mythic

[livid jay]

but we are also 100 pulls deep in vanguaard so i guess we are just bad

[charred mango]

I have m gaze h stare h npx rings, the mythic rings are each bigger upgrades than m stare

[lucid olive]

huh

[warm briar]

And we’re also trying to weed out derps who won’t cut it in mythic

[lucid olive]

how do you do 100 pulls on that boss

[lofty depot]

U can do that in mythic lol

[lofty depot]

No monk, 5 heal, tanks brain off

Pick 1 or all

[lucid olive]

think only boss we have 100 wipes on so far is beloren

[livid jay]

roster issues, issues with not having eyes and loosing 2 people to dodges every single pull

[lucid olive]

actually we're at 90 for beloren

surely it dies in 10 pulls

[livid jay]

sounds like a 200 pull boss for us then

[lofty depot]

If they don't have finger on pot or health stone they get yell at

[sudden flame]

[lucid olive]

yeah idk those hammers are way too easy to dodge for people to die to it

[warm briar]

I can’t wait for people in my guild to let the orbs hit boss in mythic

[lofty depot]

At least 40

[sudden flame]

assuming you have a completely terrible comp for it

[livid jay]

let me show u something

[lucid olive]

no just bad players

[sudden flame]

[livid jay]

across 1 night of 22 pulls

[lofty depot]

Hammers do less than the shield lol

[livid jay]

yea

thats why theres barely any deaths from them

but they put people low

and make them play bad

and make healers struggle

and play worse

[drifting nova]

healers job innit

to heal

[lofty depot]

6 healers, heal my character

[livid jay]

5 healers

and im still in bear 24/7

[silk veldt]

Is the dungeon slice sim updated for the meteorites change?

[drifting nova]

yes i'm still salty I didnt get dispelled on chim last night

[warm briar]

how do people not pay attention enough to not get hit by hammers

is my question

[drifting nova]

fack healers

[lofty depot]

Dslice isn't used, allowed, or thought about

[livid jay]

dungeon slice never worked

[drifting nova]

[charred mango]

should censor the word slice here

[drifting nova]

you dont like sliced bread?

[silk veldt]

So do we just rip 5 minute patchwork and add targets? How do we know if meteorites are good

[drifting nova]

you dont

[lucid olive]

you can sim 2 targets and see the number improved since yesterday

or you can do a dungeon route sim with string from keystone.guru

[lofty depot]

Can look at the pin and see someone else already did that for u

[livid jay]

i had the same question

[lucid olive]

updated the APL last night to work with dungeonroute sims so shouldn't be too bad

[drifting nova]

sub me in, I can dodge big hammers

[lucid olive]

we had a rule that everyone soaking circle stands in the middle, but if you have a circle debuff overlap you stand in the back of the soak

that way everyone can dodge inwards after the soak

[drifting nova]

oh lord, it finally happened, the set is done

[lucid olive]

except the people assigned to stand near the circle to take the healing absorbs

[livid jay]

yea

makes sense i guess

but what doest it matter if people with circle stand back or sides

as long as they dont stand in middle

[lucid olive]

yeah idk

no matter what the boss is just about positioning

[livid jay]

ya

thing is i have 0 jobs on this boss i cant even say anything

[lucid olive]

and it's consistent for every pull

[livid jay]

im just a starfire starfall bot

[lucid olive]

the only thing that throws it off is tank movement cause the bosses are cringe and sometimes refuse to move in time to drag them out for their ultimate

[lofty depot]

"why does it matter if I get hit by something if it doesn't kill me"

Shitty cop out

[livid jay]

next message was

[lucid olive]

only healers and tanks have jobs on this boss tbh

[graceful pagoda]

same problem ish here

[livid jay]

that sometimes hes getting hit by them when he flies with deep breath

[livid jay]

and absorb soakers

[lofty depot]

Has he considered not deep breathing during the drop or

[lucid olive]

i guess the group that baits Senn has to use like 5% of their brain power to have an alert 5 seconds before the charge to run out

[charred mango]

I have a job on every fight (innervate the mistweaver)

[lucid olive]

idk absorb soaking is piss or?

it comes right after the healer soaks

[livid jay]

hey thats me!

[lofty depot]

Why r we innervating mw

When the fuck they ever need mana

[livid jay]

yea but they could have an argument that its harder to dodge in that spot

[lucid olive]

just put the bottom left group to stay behind to take the absorbs

no they can't

[ivory barn]

this one is rough lol

[lucid olive]

flip your camera

[livid jay]

😄

[lucid olive]

the hammers from the boss ulting are slow as shit

[charred mango]

As soon as any other healer wants to stand up and say “innervate should be for me” I’ll give it to them!

[lucid olive]

and they're static

[charred mango]

he calls for it

[ivory barn]

Thoughts Gamz on vault? xD

[livid jay]

man how i love my raidleader calling "ok guys, there is nothing to do but watch shields, nobody dies to shields" into two black healthbars

[lucid olive]

idk looks fine to me

i would probably wait with taking item

and bonus roll somewhere for an offhand

thats actually almost precisely what i'm doing

just other way around I guess

I have myth chest and myth off-hand in vault

so I'll wait with taking anything cause I can bonus roll somewhere for myth weapon or myth chest

[ivory barn]

Fk so i need to find a myth of hand then

somewere

aim for this one maybe in skyreach?

[cosmic lantern]

so I got a Erratic energies trinket on my bdruid

only 2/3 upgrades but I simmed all 2 out of 3

got the best 2

and it simed 1.1% ugprade for trinkets. but when in a key my dmg was way worse vs a diff trinket. Is it just sim bait?

[lofty depot]

Placebo

Also it's week like 500 go get the 3rd buff or

[indigo barn]

do we know how the ilvl upgrade works with crafted wep now? will there be ilvl difference over myth ilvl? Got Final Grade in vault and wondering if it is worth taking over crafted 2h

[charred mango]

289 goes to 298, 285 craft goes to 295

[ember dock]

at which target count in m+ we use starfall as spender again? somehow guide wont open 🙁

[charred mango]

2

[ember dock]

thx wasnt sure anymore

[maiden pasture]

wtf

<@&114146878353833984>

[urban hare]

Got it, ty

[ebon void]

tryna scam us bird brains eh

[wicked shuttle]

i got all the gold for myself

[indigo barn]

gatekeeping investment advice, smh

[silk shard]

lol

[charred mango]

I looked at another app for two minutes and I missed a chance at generational wealth? fml

[royal zenith]

Ive seen you talk oltanya, zero chance at generational wealth

sorry...

[lofty bear]

guys is it worth the meteorites talent atm ?

[royal zenith]

depends

[lofty bear]

on what ?

[royal zenith]

what situation you want to run it

[silk shard]

how many mobs your tank is pulling at a time

[charred mango]

you think I talk like a poor? 😔

[lofty bear]

Mostly m+

[royal zenith]

talk like a normie..

@dull dust is meteorites worth in M+ any simmers??

[silk shard]

i have the dreamgrove guide pulled up, for m+ it's still listed in the "optional" color

[lofty bear]

yeah but it works better on elunes chosen or kotg ?

[royal zenith]

you'd have to sim it to know the actual answer

on 2T like dragon boss it's worth

[drifting nova]

any vault raters

[lucid olive]

is the Shadow Enclave delve bugged for anyone else

[royal zenith]

why are you doing delves...

why do I have to do delves.....

[lucid olive]

unlocking the voidcores

[royal zenith]

fml

[drifting nova]

just do lfr

[lucid olive]

and cba queueing for anything

[drifting nova]

faster, bub

[royal zenith]

yea Ill just do lfr

[silk shard]

delve shaming 😔

[next sedge]

counterpoint lfr is even more boring than delves

[drifting nova]

countererpoint you can afk

[next sedge]

counterererpoint i no no wanna

[drifting nova]

me when I think about the game

[lucid olive]

picking up the mirrors in the delve makes my strafe keybinds not work until i relog gg

[sudden flame]

[silk shard]

that's a really weird bug

[leaden birch]

All raid last night my cdm kept bugging out

[lucid olive]

yeah that makes sense, they pushed some new API restrictions regarding CD numbers so addons had to update

[leaden birch]

Guildies had to turn off sounds or else they kept hearing bags opening

[lucid olive]

but this isnt addon related

[sweet path]

is someone can tell me if we're playing new talent or something else with 12.0.5 in mono-target and dungeon ? please ? ❤️

[leaden birch]

Just queue as healer for lfr

[sweet path]

icy-veins and wowhead doesnt have the same talent use, idk what to play atm 🙁

[lofty bear]

thats what the sim told me

i dont know what i am doing wrong

[pseudo merlin]

hello

[drifting nova]

the jump portal on the trash before beloren doesnt work

ty blizz very cool

[copper gate]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[lofty depot]

Well ur simming dslice

And that's wrong

[fiery kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/abSddaayZ2D2DTWfjy4Exc

[lofty depot]

Go sim the Crit damage ring enchant silly

[royal zenith]

Nice trinkets stinky spriest

[fiery kindle]

i'll try

[pseudo merlin]

you're welcome

is poe out yet

cant believe blizzard hasnt blue posted on the coin dupes yet

[fiery kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/muUi6Xn1BiQmLRvwuSUqbN

nah

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[fiery kindle]

can u fix my sim xd

[lofty depot]

I just did

[fiery kindle]

i need try with ec slop

[pseudo merlin]

@dense steeple did you get your craft yet

[dense steeple]

Uhhh idk im at work

Lemme remote home and check

[dense steeple]

Slowpoke

[drifting nova]

so whats the nebulous voidcore for

[leaden birch]

Is it bad that when things break like this, my first reaction isn't to be like 'cmon blizz'

[pseudo merlin]

yes its expected

[leaden birch]

But instead blame user error for trusting blizz would drop a patch without bugs?

[pseudo merlin]

pretty much

[leaden birch]

We're so conditioned😭

Knowing blizz they won't even refund the bonus rolls

[drifting nova]

or admit fault

to which I chuckle

[leaden birch]

'sry its not possible'

[drifting nova]

crafters hahahahah

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-funny-laugh-gif-11964564

[pseudo merlin]

The worst part is that Blizzard used to be the company we all praised for being industry leaders with beyond exceptional customer support

Not just within gaming, just in any sector, absolute top tier support

[leaden birch]

Blizz GMs back in the day

Humans that cared

[dense steeple]

Were saved

[lofty depot]

Key word, humans

[charred mango]

u did it

[lucid olive]

Guys they fixed Soma's character

[dense steeple]

Gamz im at work

[leaden birch]

This kills me

[dense steeple]

The fact I even logged into my computer at home to provide proof its fixed is incredible

As I cant even go to warcraftlogs on the company network

Im breaking like 6 rules just to log in

[pseudo merlin]

sweet

im so happy for you @dense steeple

[jaunty blaze]

[dense steeple]

[dense steeple]

Yeah thats my name

[vital hound]

lmao

[static sluice]

Does anybody know if the rumor is true that set tokens can not be bonus rolled on bosses?

[dense steeple]

Thats a bad rumor

Because theres hundreds of people who can verify that they are bonus rolling tier

[round field]

the rumor is actually fake

[dense steeple]

My favorite part about the bonus rolls is that I get to spend them all on dragons for the foreseeable future

[pseudo merlin]

Just hit in week 1 ?

[dense steeple]

I did

[pseudo merlin]

o

[dense steeple]

But i also need cape and tier

[pseudo merlin]

just vault the tier

hit cape next

[dense steeple]

Bad vaults do not award me

Ill try

But the plan is to bonus roll one of those 2 items next week

As long as I dont get hands yknow

[vital hound]

they can't

(i rolled some tier earlier)

[dense steeple]

I was about to say

[vital hound]

lmao

[dense steeple]

We had 2 guys bonus roll tier on chim last night

[pseudo merlin]

im still too scared to roll

like what if the fix for the dupe issue is resetting peoples loot pools

and now you will dupe even if you only used 1

[jaunty blaze]

Just wait a day no

Surely they address it

[dense steeple]

Can we talk about how dev is going to get the old yeller treatment

[craggy kernel]

Now thats a vault...

My heart is telling me to take the heroic dragons trinket but my head says thats a stupid decision

[digital berry]

I’m considering whether to take docket this week from vault to finish my sockets and put it in my wrists or to take token

[teal sphinx]

can we also do that to warlocks

[stray wharf]

Hey, is Power of Goldrinn not working by chance? Just ran up 20mill damage on target dummies and didnt see a single proc

[lofty depot]

Did see a dog go awoooo or didn't see it on the meter

[eager raft]

???

[stray wharf]

Didnt hear/see him at all

[teal sphinx]

fuck i forgot mb mb

[eager raft]

I do agree devourer gotta get nuked

[wheat scroll]

What are top boomies playing in m+, elune?

[stray wharf]

So apparently blizz's meter doesnt seperate the dog for some reason from the starsurge damage

[normal pilot]

ya you're wasting your time using in-game meter

it's basically useless

use logs if you want to do any kind of analyzing

[lofty depot]

Well goldrinn is under the surge usually

Which is what I was asking what u thought u were seeing cuz I tell u to go look at a log

Assuming ur not paying attention to the awoooos

[stray wharf]

I got it to go out and function properly. Was a weird UI glitch where it wasnt actually "applied/learned" going on.

But yeah its consolidated inside starsurge damage on blizz's meter, it doesnt seperate like how dryad has its own damage thing for starsurges

[lofty depot]

Well dryad is a unit

[normal pilot]

that doesn't matter

[lofty depot]

In log it shows the damage but u can see it under surge

[normal pilot]

all the grouping is done manually

if you see some stupid grouping on the in-game meter, that's done purposefully

[lofty depot]

Suppose u can see dryads under it aswell

[normal pilot]

some dev thought that was the way to go and spent time manually doing it

[lofty depot]

Well yea in game meter

Fuggn close ur eyes, shits useless

[past warren]

Not sure. Is this buff or hard nerf?

[lofty depot]

Well it's not a hard nerf

[topaz venture]

buff to raid cleave profile

[past warren]

So Council?

[topaz venture]

dragons paladins crown of the cosmos etc

[gentle patio]

its a buff. instead of 1 you get 2 meteors but they do 30% less damage.
So 100% + 100% - (2*30%) = 140%.
40% buff to that talent 🙂

[past warren]

Yeah, nice okay

[jolly delta]

classic blizzard forgot to put a wall in decor duel

I think dreamgrove.gg needs a decor duel guide

thoughts

[normal pilot]

what' decor duel

[jolly delta]

hide and seek

[lucid olive]

prop hunt

[normal pilot]

oh the real endgame

[lucid olive]

do you have the strat vinter

i havent tried it yet

[normal pilot]

definitely need a guide

[lucid olive]

i got tilted after my strafe keybinds broke in that mirror delve

[jolly delta]

yes

they forgot to put a wall here

so you just out of bounds and camp

[lofty depot]

Apparently if u don't get found or something the game thinks ur afk and u don't get credit

[shadow willow]

is that bug like the saladbar mc bug

[jolly delta]

there's also this funny spot

[gentle patio]

just get in their base, everyone to dumb to check there

[jolly delta]

worked fine at the start, not anymore

this is the true tech now

[frank sail]

Should I go for the eye? I have [Soulcatcher's Charm][Vaelgor's Final Stare] atm

[jolly delta]

funny thing is there's a wall and the seekers can't even tag you

[lucid olive]

no its not druid specific

picking up a mirror breaks your strafe binds until you relog

[jolly delta]

i hope they make decor duel HoF

[jovial sundial]

Until you swap to a different character entirely

[lucid olive]

nah i just relogged

well, first time i alt f4d, but after that i just relogged

[leaden birch]

you can track humanoids in prop hunt btw

in positive news, blizz fixed the ethereal augment rune

[jolly delta]

get lost

i feel a bit like kekkers atm

[earnest flame]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/class-bugs-with-patch-12-0-5-unholy-dk-preservation-evoker-381338?utm_source=discord-webhook

Was this bug fixed, or just not mentioned?

[lucid olive]

probably not mentioned, they never reached out at least

or they did and i blanked

who knows

[normal geyser]

Kind of curious. Why does WoWhead suggest Rattle the Stars over Starweaver for raid? Where as according to Archon, most players are doing the opposite.

[lofty depot]

Or squishi hates boomkins

[royal zenith]

Id be surprised at all if they reach out

it's not peak journalism

[leaden birch]

tldr is that bug good or bad

[lucid olive]

well they ask me before all the "this is how much you gain with tuning" or whatever posts

[lucid olive]

its just weird

[leaden birch]

lemme read what the talent does lol

[earnest flame]

it doesn't really change anything afaik, but does make the AP come at weird times

its more obnoxious in practice than gamebreaking

[lucid olive]

AP?

[earnest flame]

astral power

[lofty depot]

[lucid olive]

..

[lofty depot]

Yea idiot

[charred mango]

Ability power

[earnest flame]

?

[charred mango]

as opposed to attack damage

[lucid olive]

i was trying to ask what AP has to do with it

its a free starsurge proc

[royal zenith]

it doesnt generate AP

it generates depression..

[earnest flame]

It'd be great if I wasn't called an idiot for mis-understanding something

but whatever

[lucid olive]

he called me an idiot

not you

[charred mango]

gamz was called an idiot

[lofty depot]

U weren't called an idiot lol

[royal zenith]

I stand with snorlaxius

dont gang up on him with 3 people

Ill fight you all

[lofty depot]

Idk how u interpreted that as me calling u an idiot

[lucid olive]

i can see it for sure

[charred mango]

deux you already fight everyone unprovoked

[royal zenith]

correct

[lucid olive]

nah deux stands up for the people

[royal zenith]

now I have a reason

[lofty depot]

Deux stands up for anything

[royal zenith]

hate sitting down..

[lofty depot]

He's an anarchist

[royal zenith]

that's actually true ye

[lofty depot]

If he sits down for everything, what would he stand for

[exotic perch]

its bc deux is dutch if he stands up for anything he hits his head on the ceiling

[royal zenith]

I'm only 5'11

it's not that bad

[leaden birch]

only heroic

but

[limpid jolt]

Fuck my life

[carmine relic]

That first trinket is quite good. The 2nd one is annoying and the 3rd sucks

[leaden birch]

soulcatchers ain't bad

too bad stare and gaze are just so far ahead

[fiery coyote]

@lofty depot did they fix the bonus roll yet?

[ivory barn]

Wtf do i do halp.

I dont have spark to craft ofhand. I can try get myth ofhand from skyreach. Then put wepon embelishment on boots?

[rare wedge]

Good evening everyone I play balance in Midnight, and I feel that I get stuck in m+15 where the others are at 120k overall I am at 107k overall only, I am 275 ilvl if someone has an idea

Raiderio : https://raider.io/characters/eu/hyjal/Moonalisse

Of why im stuck

[ivory barn]

@lucid olive I need proffesjonal imput

[lucid olive]

reroll for an off-hand before picking your vault

[teal sphinx]

they didnt mention anything for arms and we arent getting Deep wounds from the slam/heroic strike crits that come from 3+ target cleaves and its pretty sizeable dam. so i wouldnt be surprised if they just didnt reach out

[ivory barn]

And if i dont get ofhand? and if i get ofhand i put embelishment on boots?

[lofty depot]

Until they make a blue post I wouldn't trust shit

[lucid olive]

can put embellishment on gloves if you dont have myth track gloves

[lofty depot]

Post a log

[lucid olive]

i would just in general use the bonus rolls and see what i get first before taking out the vault

[lofty depot]

Just wait til next week who cares

[ivory barn]

I have bis gloves. I have craafted boots

[lucid olive]

your gloves are hero track

hero track can not be bis

[ivory barn]

Oh right

They are lol

But how can i put embelishment on myth hands? i need crafted to put embelishment no?

[lucid olive]

yes

craft 285 gloves

maybe a next week thing idk

i'm sure you'll figure it out

[ivory barn]

why not on boots?

[rare wedge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/43qVjvkQKfgFprnZ

here

[lucid olive]

you can put it on the boots as well, doesnt rly matter

[ivory barn]

Ait

[outer oasis]

We spam wrath or starfire out eclipse for st as EC

[dense steeple]

Wrath

[dense steeple]

Two things you can do without me deep diving.

1. Trade your locus walker trinket for a vaelgors trinket.
2. Stop dying. You were literally half of the groups deaths and there were double digit deaths.

[rare wedge]

No vaelgors trinket, Unlucky on this

I was in duo with the RSham I died on the first pull (unlucky, then the tank did a bad pull )

[frank vine]

meteorites are, despite the buffs, not played in m+, right?

[lofty depot]

Doubtful

[wary tendon]

Someone on liquid posting this. On what world are we this high unless there’s some sort of bug or this is skewed in som form?

[dense steeple]

Youve accounted for 2of your 6 deaths.

Regardless, the locus walker trinket is just an eye of kezan. Its not good in keys, you must be in combat nonstop to get full use of it. Any downtime is bad. With 6 deaths you had a lot of downtime. One thing you can do to help live is to bring healing potions

[dense steeple]

We got an aoe buff, every boss is aoe. Wcyd

[eager raft]

All bosses wcl chart

CLASSIC

[lofty depot]

"on liquid"

[royal zenith]

holy shit balance is so op??

[lofty depot]

Who's posting and how they walk on water

[royal zenith]

did wf racers not know???

how is THIS possible

[eager raft]

Hey deux

[dense steeple]

Rwf not realizing the boomy meta. Classic

[royal zenith]

hello

[eager raft]

How is it going

[wary tendon]

i mean it was thdlock. didnt think their name mattered. i know they post crazy stuff at times anyways

[royal zenith]

pgood hbu

[eager raft]

Not bad

[rare wedge]

ok so I had the feather (WS) crucible in trinket so Feather is better in Keys ?

[eager raft]

Kicking myself for not killing crown on Monday

Cuz now p3 is kinda hard

[lofty depot]

Tee hach dee sometimes be trolling

[dense steeple]

Feather would likely be better in keys than locus walker imo

[hidden heron]

Hello everyone, just got this week vault, got the head tier set myth, based on this and in the fact of the newest bonus roll I would like to get a opinion on what I should prioritize.

Green Check correspond to bis gear that are at myth level 6/6
Yellow check are bis gear but heroic or champ all level 6/6
Red are gear that I don't have at all

I was thinking about occlusion of void or the weapon, what are your thoughts? Ty

[dense steeple]

Never listen to thd lmao

[rare wedge]

ok thanks a lot, time to be better in keys, I will do an updtae soon

[dense steeple]

I have faith in you:)

[rare wedge]

[lofty depot]

The weapon shouldn't be on your radar when ur missing the biggest upgrade being the trinket

[royal zenith]

thought you alreay killed

yeah with that change

its weird af

[lofty depot]

Also, bis lists are cringe

[eager raft]

Sadly not. Between the immune change and the MM nerfs

Things are much tougher

[royal zenith]

Ill be honest

EC is kinda chill in raid..

[drifting nova]

except when you look at your dam

[lofty depot]

They'll fix it then nerf belo again dont worry

[eager raft]

Which fight(s) you playing it in?

[royal zenith]

nah Im just doing heroic reclear

but the starfires are not that bad..

[lofty depot]

Belo

Yah yah

[eager raft]

Really??

Just cuz of asp gen letting you turret surges on egg or what

[lofty depot]

Fight is mechanically piss easy

[eager raft]

Yeah definitely

[royal zenith]

Im actually getting convinced

[lofty depot]

Well ec sims higher st

[royal zenith]

its good

for all fights

[eager raft]

I’m just surprised

I am very out of the loop on boomy stuff

[royal zenith]

you lose very lil ST damage too... going pad build

I mean aoe

sorry typo heh

[lofty depot]

Keeper does far less outside of egg phase too

So idk :/

Granted p1 is padd cuz it doesn't matter

I also often times don't get above 8.5mil so idk

Tettles and the other boomkin did like 9mil

I'm shit I think

[eager raft]

You gotta get to p2 tho no?

Or is the check not close

I remember liquid holding dps

[lofty depot]

U hold DPS ye

Vantus + 2% raid buff

Shits insanely annoying

[eager raft]

We revantused crown last night sadly

So won’t have for belo

[lofty depot]

Kinda sus no

[eager raft]

Yeah I thought so

[lofty depot]

Granted ur not killing belo this week so w.e.

[eager raft]

Yeah I think that was the thinking

We did first few pulls without it on crown yesterday in case we could kill fast and get to belo with enough time to kill this week

[lofty depot]

100 pull boss, ain't no way ur killing it this week

160~ top top

[eager raft]

Yeah so I think vantusing crown was prob the right move

[royal zenith]

survival hunter is owning btw

[frank vine]

survival is insanely good

[royal zenith]

hope they keep it that way

survival deserves it

[lofty depot]

Year of the spear?

Or rather daggers

[frank vine]

it just feels bad not getting invited into keys as boomie (yes, im pugging)

[royal zenith]

such is life

[dense steeple]

cant relate i get into any key i want

[lofty depot]

There's 5million people queuing at 270 ilvl, such is life

[dense steeple]

imagine being 270 ilvl tho

[past tide]

whjats a good build for m+

help

[lofty depot]

Wowhead yeayea

[wild dune]

CYGA8cL7tpvige+kkmGM9zUPWDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjxMDwsMzMzMLMYMLzsMziZmxGLzsMmZMWwwAM22mZwY2GBmAAAAswMzMD2MMGDAAzMwA

[past tide]

ty

[high kraken]

Can i summon some boomies for aid? My logs are terrible this expansion and i dont know what im doing wrong -.-
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GtMF3mATja7kdHqR?fight=last&type=damage-done Vorasisus which is close to my best log i think
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GtMF3mATja7kdHqR?fight=14&type=damage-done I have no clue why i did a 22 log her tbh

[gaunt surge]

Is it normal that i can cast while moving as a boomy ?

[lofty depot]

Hackerman

[wild dune]

did u happen to just do a decor duel

[gaunt surge]

i did before raid yes

[wild dune]

yes there is something up with decor duels

and casting while moving

[gaunt surge]

interesting

[lofty depot]

New tech?

[gaunt surge]

Looks like it

[normal pilot]

quick lock in your parses before it's fixed

[round field]

what the

[royal zenith]

that's golden

[eager raft]

Wait they brought back stellar drift

At the low cost of doing a prop hunt

[signal meteor]

does anyone know if the raidbots item search is just busted right now or is it something that i'm doing wrong on my end?

[lofty depot]

What do u happen to be doing

[signal meteor]

typing a word into the item search and there are no suggestions appearing at all

[lofty depot]

What item

[signal meteor]

i've tried a number of em

but it's not finding valegor's or any crafted silvermoon leather items

[lofty depot]

Did u type in the ilvl or

Worked fine for me just now

[wooden obsidian]

anyone know if it's worth it to upgrade corespark multitool to myth 6/6 compared to aln'hara cane 285? with the acuity of ren'dorei enchantment

[signal meteor]

weird, i guess it's just on my end or something

[lofty depot]

Try refreshing the page idk

[royal zenith]

nah you need to select the ilvl

after item

else nothing will pop up

[lofty depot]

Sim it or

[royal zenith]

dunno if intended

but yeah bad ux

[signal meteor]

oh wait

it's vael

[royal zenith]

valegor is his spanish cousin..

[lofty depot]

Probably spelt gaze but gays

[ionic surge]

@drifting nova rate the drip

[drifting nova]

ya blind blud

find specsavers

[eager raft]

my goat

[ionic surge]

no u

[meager storm]

wait till they fix devourer and then even more dmg is lost

[eager raft]

Nuke that spec

Respectfully

[dense steeple]

believe it or not

theyre saying the same thing

the bad devourers are crying knowing its coming, and everyone else is just waiting because it needs to happen

fun fact: its still bugged

[dapper cloak]

anyone know if "current spec" or "loot specialization" will determine void core bonus roll loot table ? want to run nexus point for balance rings but might do it while healing

[dense steeple]

no idea

for safety, select your loot spec

[lofty depot]

Should loot as feral

[dense steeple]

but also yeah

feral has less items on table i think

[lofty depot]

Should work like all the others

It does 6vs7

[dapper cloak]

I swear I read somewhere that current spec determines

so wondering if healing to loot dps gear would even be possible

with "loot spec"

[dense steeple]

cant confirm youve read that or not, but the safest play will be to set your loot spec in any regard to trying

[dapper cloak]

yeah

thanks though

[royal zenith]

Ill be honest

I would not trust anything with this patch

[round field]

just hover over the thing and it shows what can drop

[royal zenith]

it's a pile of shit

[round field]

but it also might be fake

ye

[royal zenith]

and that's not an understatement

[dapper cloak]

oh yeah you're right

I can just not roll if it's not on the table

[round field]

[dapper cloak]

fake? the loot table? 😄

[round field]

ye bro

this company is legit

[dapper cloak]

haha

[round field]

so incompetent

its insane

[dapper cloak]

buggy mess

[royal zenith]

no sacrifices to quality

good talk blizzie

[dapper cloak]

void/light rings are on feral loot table?

[round field]

expansion made without a crunch

well ye

[dapper cloak]

but trinkets I might not need are also avail?

[round field]

if they put in 10% as much work into making the game work instead of nuking addons week after week

it might be solid

[round field]

anything you can loot in a loot spec is available from bonus rolls

[dapper cloak]

yeah..

just finding so hard to find pugs as balance :/

is there something about the upgrade to weapons/trinkets also being bugged?

[round field]

no thats just not in the game yet

[lofty depot]

Well it's not out yet, but idk what would be bugged

[round field]

it upgrades into an item with a bugged id and deletes its perma

without being able to item restore

[dapper cloak]

haha okay

[eager raft]

shoulda made thme work weekends and stay late....

[round field]

bro they didnt even work weekdays

what are u on about

[dapper cloak]

the quest just ended and noting happened and I was confused so

[lofty depot]

Gotta refresh wowhead better on patch day

4 week timegate

[fossil hemlock]

Is it a known thing to sometimes get the resto kotg treant bloom thing?

[glacial steeple]

Bro what is this patch?

[pallid bay]

yea

u just cant do anything with it

the swiftmend thing right

[fossil hemlock]

Nah that's the dryad, happens if you proc the thing then convoke swiftmends

This is the basic "flowers bloom" thing

Same as what we get on wrath/starfire but resto

[pallid bay]

that i havnt seen before

[fossil hemlock]

No clue what would even cause it to happen

So uhh, I think it's human form hotw?

Somehow?

Yep

[craggy sonnet]

makes sense i guess

in some twisted way

[fossil hemlock]

You only get the bloom, no healer treant

Funny though

[craggy sonnet]

the talent probably just triggers on wild growth cast or something?

[fossil hemlock]

Wild growth or swift I suppose

So convoke swiftmend might also trigger it?

[craggy sonnet]

since its got FoN/GG as a pre-req to work in the first place

[fossil hemlock]

Or is swift not available in moonkin convoke?

[drifting nova]

no sacrifices we can see, buggy as balls

[craggy sonnet]

dont think so?

[fossil hemlock]

Hmm I thought that was how we randomly got the tranq dryad to spawn, but maybe I'm misremembering

Or do we not spawn the dryad but just get the buff?

[craggy sonnet]

or maybe it did but extremely unlikely

im not sure its still possible now that SM is not in the class tree anymore

[pallid bay]

its like extremely unlikely

[royal zenith]

@pseudo merlin 29th

[pseudo merlin]

THIS MONTH?

[royal zenith]

nope

[pseudo merlin]

June?

[royal zenith]

may ofc

[pseudo merlin]

That's great timing

[craggy sonnet]

are we positive they didnt change anything when they reworked class tree?

spreadsheet is probably from SL or something?

[royal zenith]

from SL

[pseudo merlin]

dude how is there still no bonus roll blue post

[pallid bay]

its from hero trees right

whenever that was

DF

TWW?

[craggy sonnet]

the convoke spreadsheet?

[pallid bay]

AI = astral insight

[pseudo merlin]

artificial intelligence*

[pallid bay]

yes, i made it

[craggy sonnet]

ahhh

hmmm, when did they take out swiftmend and wg?

[lucid olive]

afaik that sheet was made right after they changed Starsurge prio in Convoke

during TWW beta

so after they took Swiftmend out as a talent

[craggy sonnet]

ye aight

that was straight with alpha, correct?

then probably still possible albeit unlikely

[normal pilot]

it never cared about talent, only if the spell was removed entirely from the game

[lofty depot]

had to get home to make meme

[craggy sonnet]

so who's gonna test if that procs the dream surge from new GG

[lucid olive]

you are

[craggy sonnet]

X

[royal zenith]

keeps asking questions about "are we positive that"

but doesnt want to test

classic..

[pseudo merlin]

I remember when orange names used to contribute...

[lucid olive]

when was that

[pseudo merlin]

uhh

when gastank and jund were orange

[lofty depot]

were?

[pseudo merlin]

i mean

[lucid olive]

true

[pseudo merlin]

where's jund

gastank is still here ofc

[lucid olive]

@steep stratus

[pseudo merlin]

but like now the pool is diluted

[royal zenith]

he leveled up

[lofty depot]

oh sheeeeeeeeesh

[drifting nova]

PROMOTE ME

I CAN DO IT

none of these fake druids like chancel

[royal zenith]

how much are you paying kekkers

[drifting nova]

why would I pay myself

[mighty mica]

yeah man, you and zimbita are going to bring this server from ashes

[drifting nova]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-sp2-gif-11772773330043840102

[fiery kindle]

how this is possible

we at vanguard - suck
lura - suck
beloren - suck

[drifting nova]

zeah 1st sucks just fyi, I hate it

[mighty mica]

[fiery kindle]