balance

[dull dust]

huge buff

[ivory barn]

huge - About 1.5%-2% gain on 2-3 targets.

[digital berry]

wait so ther normal collect 3 shards quest is th first step to get the weekly 2 reroll thingies?\

[dull dust]

from 1 Lil talent

[ivory barn]

When did cosmos trinket go from not being bis anymore :o I see Gaze is bis now

Godamit

[digital berry]

gaze has always been at the top?

[ivory barn]

No earlyer it was vaelgor trinket then cosmos on the bis list. Now its vaelgor and gaze it seem

[digital berry]

what bis list are we talking about

[dull dust]

gamz s guild found out he gaslit them

[digital berry]

bro

[ivory barn]

Guess i have to get gaze now

[digital berry]

bis lists like these are a bait

[ivory barn]

its made by gamz. how can it be bait

[lucid olive]

this bit is funny but man i hope it's not gonna bite me in the ass when some takes it seriously

[lucid olive]

all bis lists are inherently bait

[dull dust]

[lucid olive]

sim your character

[dull dust]

just say u were aura farming

for ilvl

worth

or more likely sims weren't optimized

[ivory barn]

Gamz why did u change the cosmos trinket for gaze? just curious what changed

[lucid olive]

well this is actual answer

[dull dust]

yea

[lucid olive]

gaze got better implemented in sim

• fights aren't as long anymore so ribbon loses value

• chimaerus is easier to kill and gaze is therefore easier to get

[normal pilot]

if you're actually concenred about missing out on a trinket because it wasn't on the list but now it is

you shouldn't be using lists in the frist place

lists are for ppl who don't care about details like that

[ivory barn]

im not concerned at all. I just wanne squish out the most dips as possible to min max lol

[digital berry]

bis lists do not provide any true real value aside from i guess sometimes figuring out which piece is off piece for tier set

[normal pilot]

no there's value is not caring about having the correct answer all the time

[ivory barn]

the cosmos trinket sim higher for me anyways than gaze

[normal pilot]

sometimes better to just yolo and play the game

[ivory barn]

I agree, however. Nothing wrong about keeping up to date if something changes or get buffed nerfs. to optimze ur dmg

[lucid olive]

you're right; that's what raidbots is for

[dreamy locust]

Yeah if you want to optimize, you sim not use list, But also must learn the simbaits

Things like vessel, Idk if that thing ever got changed to not sim perfectly

[ivory barn]

I was just curious if gaze got a buff or not. But agein cosmos sim better for me so it dosent matter

[dreamy locust]

You mean crucible? or ribbon FROM cosmos?

[digital berry]

it does matter depending on what myth track raid boss loot you have access to

[dreamy locust]

or what we talkin about

[exotic perch]

holy fuck man the game is bricked

cant send a crafting order

AH sucks

i play my character for 3 mins then its just bricked

[ivory barn]

forgot what its called. The trinket cosmos drop

[dreamy locust]

Ribbon gotcha

I forget that boss is ever called cosmos I just say alleria / lura

instead of the dumb names last bosses got

[bleak stag]

My buddy lost his weapon in a recraft. Deleted, gone

[dreamy locust]

You guys wanna kill MIDNIGHT FALLS?!

[ivory barn]

da fk

[exotic perch]

yeah idk how they keep doing this lol

[fair pasture]

Midnight falls sounds cool as hell tho

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova i got pkd by a guy shooting like 5 brown small skulls at me at the same time?

just proj vomitting skulls, what is that

[ivory barn]

small indie company

[fair pasture]

So does crown of the cosmos

[dense steeple]

yeah i think it just happened to my neck

[drifting nova]

idk but did you see the clip yday of guy doing scorp got 4manned and just outhealed with mage

[pseudo merlin]

no but ive seen someone outheal 6 jads

[drifting nova]

moons or echo amox, whats the deal

idk which#

[pseudo merlin]

?

[drifting nova]

which do I do

[pseudo merlin]

i dont understand the querstion

[brazen bramble]

hi friends is the ribbon sim bait? it's only heroic but it's simming higher than myth pieces?

[drifting nova]

moons for blood or echo amox wep

[pseudo merlin]

its not either or

[drifting nova]

which first

smh

[pseudo merlin]

kill amox once and go moons

????

obviously you get the point first

[drifting nova]

yeah I've done 2

[pseudo merlin]

30 seconds for huge power increase vs hours of farm

[drifting nova]

..30s

clip it smh

[pseudo merlin]

do you want me to show you right now?

[drifting nova]

yes

[pseudo merlin]

how do I record

[lucid olive]

link sim

[brazen bramble]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rx89fcXL8ZPidUqoj93GpP
im simming for keys im not a raider right now. idk i think i've done something wrong.

[frail wasp]

Hi fellow boomkins

[lucid olive]

nothing wrong with this sim, but your takeaway from it is flawed

ribbon is not "simming higher than myth pieces" because you didn't choose another myth trinket to sim it against

in that sim its also basically neutral for you to take the gloves from vault

[dull dust]

3 min sim

[lucid olive]

the ribbon is your highest vault increase because your 2 existing trinkets are champion track

[dull dust]

ribbons undersimming if anything

unless ur killing shit in 3m

[lofty depot]

3m sim fine

locken

[frail wasp]

I feel like I suck at doing damage on this class, would someone be up for teaching me some tips and tricks on dummies someday for MM+?

[brazen bramble]

so would it be bennificial for me to take the ribbon over the myth pieces?

[dull dust]

is it fine to microwave jacklinks meat

[lucid olive]

flip a coin

[frail wasp]

(I'm on EU time btw)

[lucid olive]

take whatever item it lands on

[lofty depot]

post a log

[lucid olive]

you likely won't ever replace the gloves, but you'll replace the ribbon with a Gaze of the Alnseer eventually

[lofty depot]

2 worst items from nexus point

wooo

[frail wasp]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Z9P7MBhGkq1w8z4a?fight=9&type=damage-done&source=159

[drifting nova]

@pseudo merlin forgot to cook fish for blood moon gg me

[frail wasp]

this?

[brazen bramble]

very true. my question is. is chimeria going to be puggable ?

on mythic

[lucid olive]

it already is

it was puggable week 1

[drifting nova]

only if you have the kill already

[lucid olive]

people pugged that boss to hall of fame

[drifting nova]

probably

[lucid olive]

the only struggle is getting invited

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova oh wait i dont need to record

[drifting nova]

real close to just being a terrorist tank next season

[pseudo merlin]

see?

[drifting nova]

wadafak

[pseudo merlin]

brother

Im doing echo

not normal

[drifting nova]

that might also be regular

[pseudo merlin]

i can do normal in 3 seconds

[drifting nova]

idk how to pb it

[dull dust]

kekkers is a rs casual im gathering

[leaden birch]

Do we just do the 3 raid boss voidforge quest and then get our bonus rolls right after?

Or is there more i need to do before raid time

[drifting nova]

my build is giga dog early on

[dense steeple]

i think the crafter still has it

my crafter apparently cant complete

[pseudo merlin]

i thought kekkers was the rs goat

[wraith basin]

the weapon ilvl upgrade thing that you can get this week, its best to wait for a mythic staff over using it on crafted staff right?

[dull dust]

ik I've been led astray too

[charred mango]

can* get this week

[pseudo merlin]

this is normal

[drifting nova]

range no?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

actually normal is slower

cuz echo gives you attack speed boost

[orchid fox]

Don’t try to craft guys

[pseudo merlin]

i will never craft a guy

[orchid fox]

Mine got stuck in main and can’t pull it out. Now that gear slot is missing from my char and I’m stuck at 256 I lvl down from 275 now

[charred mango]

i will be crafting guys

this is build a bear

[drifting nova]

just got 4 mauls in a row on blood, mb my echo rng was just bad

[pseudo merlin]

I hate not being able to zoom out in pacts

[drifting nova]

wait is maul the play in enrage

[willow thicket]

just read this, and sorry for tag/notification, but is this the new stuff to make it so bosses/dungeons drop more items?

[lucid olive]

read last line

[thorny wagon]

is there addon for balance resource visuals?

[lucid olive]

click link

[lucid olive]

there's some stuff written about addons in #1473018731687841853 and in the Compendium

[willow thicket]

will do ty

[thorny wagon]

uuh thanks

searched before specifically for druid but i suppose global one works as well

cheers

[bleak junco]

what happened to the CDM

i can't edit/take stuff off it

[dense steeple]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/m7RGDH1n7yw8GNU81vNqnX this would be my sim if the game didnt steal my fucking crafted neck

[lucid olive]

[dull dust]

his order will time out soon

surely

[dense steeple]

it timed out 10 minutes ago

[dull dust]

[dense steeple]

because the crafter is my RL and its stuck in his box he cant get rid of it

[dull dust]

[dull dust]

tell.him to delete his character

[analog moat]

How do I update twintops resource bar?

[dull dust]

actually i wonder what happens in that scenario

[dense steeple]

surely thats a good idea lmao

[dull dust]

does the game realize to send it back to u still

or does it get deleted with him

[analog moat]

Oh, it's just a regular addon.

[meager storm]

i dont feel the buff

i think devourer needs another 8%

ty

[dull dust]

true

[opaque steeple]

hi! I have a stupid question: is boomkin boil down to essentially keep up dots, and try to stay in Eclipse as much as possible?

[normal pilot]

no. eclipse is a set cd there is no 'as much as possible'

you might wnat to re-read some guides like dreamgrove.gg to see how it plays now in midnight

[manic agate]

is elune's chosen simming higher in ST for anyone else today?

[dull dust]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[manic agate]

[delicate perch]

Embrace starfire

[dull dust]

simming better doesnt mean it performs better however

[normal pilot]

sounds like skill issue

[dull dust]

gas

make route delay work with target count

[normal pilot]

idk what that means

[dull dust]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/a5f7d9586c6b8fb8929c6c6b9f97fbd19ed91b19/engine/sim/raid_event.cpp#L517

raid event delay

when u copy paste route strings

[normal pilot]

what's that got to do with target count

[dull dust]

I want it to chain if theres 1 dude

or have the option to

[lucid olive]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/iSCY1Jzffcurc6ABxAuwSn

[normal pilot]

oh, you want the delay to start when you have 1+ mobs left and not when 0 mobs left

[dull dust]

or if the pack is at 10%

yea

rn its just waiting for packs to fully die unless u do some weird shit

[frozen beacon]

If i crafted weapon and bracers how many sparks should i have left?

[dull dust]

like setting multiple to pull 1 and having differnt delay timers

[lucid olive]

was the weapon a staff

[frozen beacon]

Yes

[tacit oriole]

anybody with a nice Twintops import I can have? Fucked around and lost what I had

[lucid olive]

then you've used 6 sparks

you can do 1 more craft

and then another next week

[frozen beacon]

F i crafted a guardian weapon and went back to boomie main so kinda fucked myself then

since im sitting on 3 sparks was hoping there was a way to get a second one this week

[lucid olive]

if you hover the currency in your character panel it should show current cap

but you'll also be +1 since the spark from Midnight: World Tour quest was outside of the cap

[frozen beacon]

copy that thanks

@lucid olive if i buy one using Thalassian Token of Merit (Vault tokens)does it go over the cap?

[dull dust]

did it not change anythinf

[lucid olive]

probably

[dull dust]

[lucid olive]

it took dreamstate over eg

rattle 0.1% behind

that checks out

[dull dust]

meteorites 0.1%

[lucid olive]

i have another sim brewing

actions.aoe=celestial_alignment,if=(prev_gcd.1.force_of_nature&!variable.ec|variable.ec&buff.eclipse.down&(cooldown.eclipse.charges_fractional<1.5|(fight_style.dungeonroute|fight_style.dungeonslice))&(variable.on_use_trinket=0|trinket.1.cooldown.remains>60|trinket.1.cooldown.ready|fight_remains<trinket.1.cooldown.remains|trinket.2.cooldown.remains>60|trinket.2.cooldown.ready|fight_remains<trinket.2.cooldown.remains))&target.time_to_die>(20*talent.incarnation+15*!talent.incarnation)|fight_remains<20

[dull dust]

the heck

[lucid olive]

big condition

love trinkets

[dull dust]

oh

[lucid olive]

the sim seems to just switch between goldrinn/denizen/mushroom/meteorites for the last point

regardless of starweaver or rattle

stellar amp is worse with rattle but that makes sense

[dull dust]

should probably temp swap to a diff routr

since algathar might be a bit off

[lucid olive]

yeah maybe

i think the talents it gave are correct tho

[dull dust]

yea

did u use the same route input it had

[lucid olive]

yeah i just yoinked the ec after profile

with the route

[dull dust]

kk

mala edited crawth to be a bit less hp

since sim doesnt count his amp or buff it was living for like 5mins

[dull dust]

I talked to the guru guy and he should be changing it

[lucid olive]

straight from pull 1 to pull 14

[dull dust]

no sure why it does that

[lucid olive]

exsqueeze me, i just gotta dot the last boss at the start of the key

[dull dust]

damn ur range is nuts

[lucid olive]

im several pulls into the future

[dull dust]

yeah idk why that does thst

[lucid olive]

took 27 minutes to kill that first pack

[dull dust]

look at the report tho

it looks less cooked

[lucid olive]

yeah

its just funny

[craggy sonnet]

Already on phone in bedge.
Wasn't sundered better with rattle?
And lunation is a lock?

[lucid olive]

idk i'm just pressing buttons

[mystic heath]

anyone else getting their key completion reverted?

Just finished a 17 and when I relogged I got rolled back seemingly

[bronze sparrow]

any 1 having issues H dragons?

[analog moat]

Is it worth to bonsu roll heroic dragons if we're not doing mythic?

[lucid olive]

vaelgor is better than myth track m+ trinkets

probably better than 298 m+ trinkets too ngl

[normal pilot]

hm i wonder if they fixed feather

[dreamy cove]

cancelaura stuff?

[normal pilot]

and scaling

[digital berry]

hmm?

[languid rock]

does starfall actually hit vorasius if you stand at max range? hes outside the indicator and i cba to check logs for it

[dull dust]

u can cancelaura 2 of feathers downsides

or something

[misty glade]

I'm a fan of this bonus roll system already 😉 😉

[digital berry]

i know DAMN WELL i aint getting it

[lofty depot]

lol

[digital berry]

i dont get it

[ivory barn]

U have to do it on myth right? to roll for myth i asume

[pseudo merlin]

lmao

[digital berry]

yes

[ivory barn]

madlad! :D

[grim crater]

is anyone having issues with logs recording 100* parse ?

[lucid olive]

its the first day of a new patch

parses arent locked in yet since its a new partition

[grim crater]

ahh

[lucid olive]

wait until tomorrow and its somewhat normal again

[grim crater]

did not know hat

[lucid olive]

it usually takes like 12 hours from your log until the rank gets "locked in"

[lofty depot]

blud thought he was locked

[dense steeple]

ez bonus roll vaelgor

[digital berry]

I FUCKING LOVE THIS GAME

EVERYBOD YELSE GOT GAZE

[exotic perch]

damn what trinkets

i still dont have a vaelgors

[digital berry]

literally 5 people got gaze

[exotic perch]

i will play the game in a month

[digital berry]

from bonus roll

[exotic perch]

soma has perfect trinkets hmm

still parses bad

[vital hound]

banger

[lucid olive]

got this belt in vault last week gg

[misty glade]

Twinsies

[lucid olive]

insta catalyst

[dense steeple]

bad player wcyd

[exotic perch]

i got heroic gaze and wrap im chilling

will wait for farm to have fun in wow

[digital berry]

I already fuxkibg have it

Being able to bonus roll smth you literally already have is cringe

[exotic perch]

well now you cant get it anymore

[digital berry]

Knowing my luck next week I’ll get the chest

[exotic perch]

im fully expecting to take like 3 bonus rolls for vaelgors

[digital berry]

I didn’t even have a decent vault I got nothing in the vault either

[blissful pier]

you got a free socket at least

[dense steeple]

i took myth weapon

so i could recraft shit elsewhere

and then blizzard stole my recraft

[exotic perch]

i got myself a myth puzzle box

giant

feral simming 110k

[digital berry]

i got ribbon so i can use double on use

cringe

[lofty depot]

[sonic surge]

anyone know how to make the cdm alerts louder? mine became really quiet since patch

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch vault?

[orchid fox]

You recraft stuck in mail?

[dense steeple]

never madfe it to mail

its stuck in the crafters craft box

hes as much a hostage as i am

[orchid fox]

Same thing happened on my recraft

[digital berry]

doesnt it auto decline in 30 mins

[dense steeple]

its been sitting at 0 minute timer since 730pm est 🙂

he already crafted it

he cant complete the order and send it back

[digital berry]

wait that was your weapon wasnt it

are you litrally unable to paly?

[dense steeple]

no it was my 285 neck

[orchid fox]

It’s stuck in my mail now with a mail error that won’t let me get it out. Now I’m missing my wrist and I’m down like 20 item levels

[dense steeple]

yeah i lucked out

and still had the pvp quets neck

[drifting nova]

turns out the hide and seek minigame has an afk timer

[exotic perch]

giant

[sonic surge]

anyone know?

[drifting nova]

turn your speakers up

[sonic surge]

that makes everything else louder tho

i just wanna undo whatever this patch did

[pseudo merlin]

yo but

bonus rolls are bugged

and giving duplicates

thats crazy

[drifting nova]

if patch is cooked

today is the day

so it is infact cooked

[obsidian fox]

So which one would you pick of these?

[drifting nova]

wind

or chain ig

[obsidian fox]

Chain is a very rare drop from alleria isn't it?

[drifting nova]

yeah, big doodoo vault

surely I'll sap your luck

already have too many tokens

[obsidian fox]

Thought it was good since it has Lura and Alleria drops

[digital berry]

no fucking way

from dungeons? That's wild

[pseudo merlin]

yes

[tardy hare]

Is eu open yet?

[slender island]

nope

[viscid scarab]

Hi guys, I can stack this with 2 crafted items?

[narrow iron]

Are hero items transformable into mythic now? how does that work the reroll thing

[digital berry]

does crown have a disgusting unethical ammount of padding for half decent parses?

[digital berry]

no

[lofty depot]

u cane have to crafted items with that embell yes

[viscid scarab]

Already have wrist, I was thinking about craft a belt also with that embell

[delicate perch]

Myth track legs

You?

[digital berry]

do you have weapon with embellish?

[viscid scarab]

No I dont, I have a mythic wep

[digital berry]

then yeah you can put arcano on smth

[viscid scarab]

thanks

[teal sphinx]

myth track wep

but i bonus rolled gaze AND got hunger

[digital berry]

everybody bonus rolled gaze but me

fml

[teal sphinx]

because i go prot spec

there is like 3 items to roll from

[delicate perch]

I’m either getting gaze or a belt tonight

[teal sphinx]

🔥

yea i kinda got juiced

[delicate perch]

Me in 6 hours: I’m getting gaze next week

[digital berry]

SURELY they are going to give everyone one more of the items

since so many people got FUCKED from m+ double dropping the same shit

[delicate perch]

What?

No fuck em

[digital berry]

i want the extra item

i already didnt take nothing from vault

[delicate perch]

I don’t want minigamers to get extra items though

[pseudo merlin]

L bozo

[jaunty blaze]

[narrow iron]

So where can I lookup how does the reroll work

[digital berry]

You don’t turn heroic items into mythic items at the end of a m+ run, you roll for a vault item pretty much from that dungeon out of your pool

[pseudo merlin]

google?

[drifting nova]

judging by it I dont think blizzard knows

[pseudo merlin]

like google to find a wowhead link, cuz looking things up on wowhead doesnt work EVER

but its quite shrimple

kill raid boss or end a key, get a bonus loot window

-fin

[drifting nova]

cant wait to still get no loot from a key

think its like 8keys in a row now

[pseudo merlin]

thats good

that means your next key is guaranteed loot

So you can target farm

[elfin beacon]

Guys, quick question: What should I use my bonus roll on? HC raid trinkets (e.g. Vaelgor's Final Stare) or two Mythic items from +10 dungeons?

[pseudo merlin]

hc raid rolling sounds OMEGA cursed

but we already know we will be getting a shitload of these coins

[drifting nova]

rolling raid in general seems cursed

giga grief

[elfin beacon]

So you’re saying I should stick with 2x Mythic for now?

[pseudo merlin]

I'd sim it, but I feel like it's highly unlikely a miniscule chance at a HC trinket is going to beat 2 whole ass mythic items

[elfin beacon]

Yeah, that makes sense. The guaranteed Mythic items seem like the better choice.

Thanks!

[delicate perch]

Heroic stare is kinda nutty tbh

Compared to not having it

[elfin beacon]

Yeah, I know, that’s why I’m asking. I don’t have any good trinkets, nothing from dragons or Dreamrift.

[lofty depot]

u should hold ur rerolls until they fix it

[pseudo merlin]

If you hit

Just pug and win

[elfin beacon]

Wait, is the bonus roll bugged?

[pseudo merlin]

yes

you get dupes

can get*

[delicate perch]

Real

[elfin beacon]

what the...

[delicate perch]

Bro if i roll a 2nd myth bear weapon tonight

[elfin beacon]

Good to know.. thanks!

[dense steeple]

if i dont get my myth craft back im suing blizzard

[pseudo merlin]

class action time?

First they stole your crafted crests at the start of this tier

Now dupe coins

[gusty totem]

is there any changes to m plus talents with the patch ?

[drifting nova]

it'd give me a good chuckle if the crafters get scammed

non crafters rise

[dense steeple]

its not even like the bots that scammed me

its blizzard

[drifting nova]

so..big bot?

[dense steeple]

i sent a recraft to my GM, he completed it, and blizzard literally stole it

it vanished

its not in mail

[lucid olive]

Stare at 250 is better than 289 gaze + 289 ribbon

[dense steeple]

he had it for 4 hours before it just vanished from his open orders

[drifting nova]

I will now sleep knowing that crafters got scammed

[dense steeple]

my item, my mats, my commission

all just gone

[drifting nova]

🙂

[pseudo merlin]

LMAO

WHAT

[naive siren]

LFR vaelgor is equal to myth helm PLUS myth legs for me.
i am rolling into vaelgor heroic if i don't get it dropped.

people with vaelgor trinket not realising how it sucks without it ^^

[dense steeple]

yeah i sent the order to my gm at 645pm

[delicate perch]

Everyone glazing the passive trinkets when they’re only good because everything else is worse

[dense steeple]

as of right now 1am i still do not have my item

[pseudo merlin]

maybe its just delayed

[drifting nova]

bring back withered jim

[pseudo merlin]

it would be crazy if it's just gone gone

[dense steeple]

he shared screen showing the error message he got

[delicate perch]

Real

[dense steeple]

he was able to craft it like 6 times

[drifting nova]

well it is blizzard we're on about

[pseudo merlin]

oh he got an error

lmao

[dense steeple]

never left his open order box

timer hit 0

it stayed for another 2 hours

now its gone from his orders

and i never received the item in mail

[pseudo merlin]

wow: betanight

[drifting nova]

hell I'd take one of my favourite trinkets, cunning of the cruel from dragon soul

big shadowbolt energy

[dense steeple]

luckily i was able to restore a neck to use for raid

but i lost out on 3k sim dps using it, and i couldnt provide accurate sims for item drops in RC

[teal sphinx]

@delicate perch whats the BOE website searching pricing one called

[dense steeple]

underminejournal?

[pseudo merlin]

oh btw

Don't buy a vault bonus roll token before you get your weekly tokens

[teal sphinx]

surely there was a different one

because that one is piss and has been changed

[dense steeple]

[teal sphinx]

doesnt show pricing for all realms just 1

[dense steeple]

no idea, going to bed

[drifting nova]

english?

[teal sphinx]

[delicate perch]

Wowpay2win or something similar

[pseudo merlin]

?

what dont u get

you get 2 coins a week

you CAN buy one more from vault

if you buy vault first

you only get 1 weekly coin

[delicate perch]

Wait what

[ionic oak]

ohhhhh

[delicate perch]

That’s so good

[ionic oak]

nice

[delicate perch]

Just don’t get a bricked vault idk

[ionic oak]

pretty simple

[pseudo merlin]

My strat for when EU servers come up

IS literally don't log in, don't do anything

🙂

[wild dune]

do not play the game

[ionic oak]

smart

[wild dune]

do not pass go

do not collect

[dull dust]

real world shipping and handling time

rough

[pseudo merlin]

bro fedexed your craft

[charred mango]

specifically FedEx economy, not even priority

[pseudo merlin]

snailmail

20-28 business weeks

[shadow willow]

https://fxtwitter.com/FelrynX/status/2046802370651111905

Felryn (@FelrynX)

also, if you bonus roll make sure you only bonus roll on ONE key stone level.
︀︀
︀︀The loot pools are tied to key level so if you bonus roll a 10 skyreach and then bonus roll a 12 skyreach, you can get duplicates.

Quoting Xyronic (@LimitXyronic)
︀
PSA: if you are taking coins from vault to gain a bonus roll, make sure you acquire the 2 from the quest turn in before you buy the bonus roll from the vendor. you'll juice a coin otherwise.

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big psa

[pseudo merlin]

[copper gate]

forget damage buffs fellas we need durability buffs

i feel like a level 7 mage in hardcore classic being mauled by gnolls

[pseudo merlin]

this is bullshit btw

you still get fucked sticking to the same key level

[torpid skiff]

that sounds like a bug .. right ?

[pseudo merlin]

it is

[torpid skiff]

Ok I love US doing QA for EU

[pseudo merlin]

Yes it's very convenient

[delicate perch]

should be per key done instead

[pseudo merlin]

true

[delicate perch]

(fuck minigamers)

[pseudo merlin]

When you do a key you should just automatically get a piece of loot if you have a coin

there should be no agency at all whatsoever

[delicate perch]

and if not, you are in debt -1 coin

[pseudo merlin]

[delicate perch]

(also random loot spec)

[torpid skiff]

I wish they just added a slot machine you can play and the only thing you get from m+ is coins to put in the machine 😩

[pseudo merlin]

not just loot for your class

[delicate perch]

farming for boots

boots pop up

plate????

[pseudo merlin]

[charred mango]

me every week on demon hunters boss

[delicate perch]

for returning dungeons, small chance to have their xpac ilvl loot instead

login

[woven shard]

Is it better to craft staff or an offhand + main hand?

[delicate perch]

one uses a lot more, just off the dome like double, as many crests

[woven shard]

so best to go with staff then

[delicate perch]

[teal sphinx]

hey

wtf

why did you buff devour and demo lock

[delicate perch]

[teal sphinx]

[delicate perch]

they were underperforming

obviously...

[teal sphinx]

hey while you are at it, can you nerf paladins so you can stack 10 melee

[delicate perch]

no

[pseudo merlin]

[delicate perch]

@ blizzard hire me

[tardy hare]

this round of buffs was the most ridiculous thing ever. every meta spec was buffed?

[spice forum]

Devourer needed the buff clearly

[meager storm]

[cloud citrus]

this is the the first time in 20 years i have gone HUH from tuning

kinda crazy

[tiny salmon]

Hello,

Does anyone know if it is worth catalysting the chest or the legs? I did sim both but not sure how it translates to M+ since I did Patchwerk 1 Boss. Feels like the chest effect is more benefitial to have in M+? Both options lead to 4 set

[livid jay]

just do what your sim says

unless the difference is like 0.2%

[delicate perch]

I would do myth chest for 4set then get a cata charge for legs

tier gloves stinky

[tiny salmon]

Aah ok, is there a proper way to sim M+ btw or is it the 1 Boss Patchwerk you always go with?

[delicate perch]

vibes

[tiny salmon]

Thanks!

[livid jay]

the proper way is to sim 1T5Min, more info in faq in resources channel or in faq in pinned guide

[tiny salmon]

Appreciate it!

[livid jay]

so what do i need to do now if i wanna get these ascendant voidcores and nebulos voidcores?

[delicate perch]

the 3x core thing quest

from decimus

[rain jetty]

Is the upgrade with void

This week or next week to 298?

295?

[delicate perch]

defs not this week

pretty sure it's a 5x weekly quest

[rain jetty]

What u mean

?

Do you have 4 set?

[tiny salmon]

Yeah,

Was just curious if the chest was more benefitial to not catalyst due to the Leech. But I went with People's recommendation and simmed with different gloves and it simmed a bit higher

[rain jetty]

Leech is not relavant tbh

If you are raiding or m plus

[livid jay]

but theres catch-up

?

[rain jetty]

Only thing u need to look for is avoidance or speed

[tiny salmon]

Aah ok thanks, answered my question!

[rain jetty]

I have to flex a bit guys

[livid jay]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

[rain jetty]

hahahahahaha

[livid jay]

now show logs with that

surely all 99s

[tiny salmon]

If only I would get the goddamn trinkets...

🙂

[rain jetty]

Both are Mythic

👀

[tiny salmon]

Goddamn

Feels like Vaelgor's Trinket would crank up my DPS way higher in keys

But it wont drop from either boss or vault

[livid jay]

im still running the goddamn worldboss trinket

[tiny salmon]

Sadge

[livid jay]

but surely vault today after work has that myth gaze in it

right?

[tiny salmon]

Ain't no way

[livid jay]

[delicate perch]

no clue for new quest this is week1 of it

[livid jay]

oh for the ascendant voidcores?

[round field]

isnt it 4 weeks

[delicate perch]

idk lil mouseover thing says 1/5 for the hammer

[round field]

yuck

[delicate perch]

nvm I cant read it says 4

get gaslit

[gaunt ruin]

guys. i am blocked. what to choose from gv? if you press run sim again should show you my gear and my gv items. also i can craft one more item 285 but don't know which one https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/knRU8gtZ3PHACnN275xTMS

[gaunt ruin]

it's not that simple

because they sim it like i will have only 1 embelishment

and told me to take the heroic neck

and the other good choises are 2h staff with mastery haste and waist mythic

[round field]

ok then add a second embelishment

[obsidian fox]

So if I have 2 good items from vault, one is from Mythic+ in Mythic rarity, and second is from Heroic L'ura, which one is better to take?

[mild chasm]

i need advice after nightshift, didnt had a nap yet.

ilvl 289 set chest item
or
ilvl 276 Gaze (trinket)
from the great vault? (gosh i need sleep)

[obsidian fox]

I'd go for gaze if you don't have like, very good trinkets

[round field]

Mby kill chim first and then decide

[obsidian fox]

[mild chasm]

nah i dont have realy good trinkets, since i dont raid and my rng is the shit. I currently have ribbon and soulcatcher

[obsidian fox]

Then try doing Chimaerus this week, see if you can get it from there, if not go for gaze from vault

[mild chasm]

yes sir .. thank you

[obsidian fox]

[gaunt ruin]

How? I have to craft another item to add a second embellish…

[modern hinge]

Title: Quick question from a KR player about raid loot!

Hey NA folks, quick mechanics question:
If I loot an item from a boss before rolling for the rest, does the game exclude that item from the rolls? Or does it not matter?
Curious how it works here. Thanks!

[round field]

you can add any item in the game in topgear

[ivory sentinel]

Intresting. vault & tw quest reward.
hopefully i can macro this trinket into my incarn

[lethal imp]

Can you use 2 arcanoweave linings?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[celest rampart]

how tf do we get our re-rolls?

[wise hare]

do the qeust

[celest rampart]

which one?

[wise hare]

probably the one at the voidforge in voidstorm

that you should have done a few weeks by now

[celest rampart]

IM 6/6

[wise hare]

then you buy them from the npc

he has a daily

well 3

[celest rampart]

hmmm, ill relog

ty

[wise hare]

gold, void mari or crest for rerolls

[vagrant sky]

Goodmorning, could use some advice about vault if possible please 🙂
Myth weapon, haste/mastery ring, pants ( can use catalyst ) and hc trinket from Crown ( the mastery one )
Already crafted the weapon, but could just pick the myth weapon and craft wrist+belt or smthing ? All options seem valid, except maybe the Trinket, it sims the best, but thats cuz i have bad trinkets ( relatively new char )
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n2QTv99Vecsy8ebdYUWkm5

[leaden birch]

the first quest you get from him is to spend voidcores

you probably already have your first 2 reroll tokens

[past warren]

So is Gaze better than Locus now? WoWhead says Gaze + Vaelgor is best, but Archon says Locus + Vaelgor?

And I'm simming Locus + Vaelgor?

[delicate perch]

[winged moss]

How much % overal dmg does the new talent changes do ? In a m+ dungeon

[graceful pagoda]

nothing

[wise hare]

you probably wont notice it

[graceful pagoda]

wath to upgrade gaze or main hand?

[wise hare]

ah yes

[graceful pagoda]

myth track gaze or wait for 1h idk

[wise hare]

since i clearly know your whole character

from the ins and outs

i can for sure tell you

what to upgrade

sim it bud

[graceful pagoda]

cant sim wath i dont have it but yea you are right

[wise hare]

you can

top gear lets you add items

[vital hound]

has the clip

of gamz jumping off cosmos platform

been shared

[wise hare]

i have not seen it

but i would like to

[vital hound]

https://youtu.be/BqQR668s9Qk?t=202

"expert" btw

[sudden flame]

💀

[wise hare]

not my expert

[round field]

nice

[static sluice]

Man I really hate that you can buy bonus rolls for Tokens of Merit ... now I have to Weigh a sure DPS upgrade against a like a 3/8 chance for a slightly higher DPS upgrade ...

[sleek dirge]

depends. Raid and single target Locus is better.
but M+, Gaze is better because it doesnt lose the buffs between fights

[round field]

you might have a gambling addiction

[azure latch]

I can't see my astral power anymore since patch. Is that a known problem and is there already a workaround?

[sleek dirge]

addon issues probably ?
check that and remove everything then load one by one

[static sluice]

Also does anybody know what happened with the 3.4k achievment and the saddle? I got neither upon login in on EU

[gaunt ruin]

I would take the trinket

[winged moss]

Im playing with starweaver and when we’re heavily pulling in m+. Do I spam starfall over “free proc” starsurge??

[sleek dirge]

i think i remembered (maybe wrong) that it's at the end of the season ? 🤔

[static sluice]

I dont mean the 1% thoug but the fixed 3.4k Feat of Strength. Wouldnt make sense to get that at the end right?

[winged moss]

Or the free starsurge for solstice procs?

[viscid ermine]

using bettercooldownmanager?

[orchid leaf]

Hi, I was wondering if someone could explain to me why mythic set pants are a downgrade to my hero set pants https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h1yhWhnTfmiE9yz153oZUk

[azure latch]

thx @sleek dirge and @viscid ermine . no, i don't use an addon for this. only personal ressource display. and it shows me only mana and life...

[tardy hare]

They announced it yday that its not in the patch. Comes later.

[round field]

why are we simming 1 minute 1 target

[static sluice]

ffs Blizzard

[orchid leaf]

Ugh, oh no. I always forget to reset the settings after playing around

[round field]

probably something wonky going on with the duration

[wise hare]

1min sims

[orchid leaf]

I probably ran around with messed up sims for weeks

[round field]

thats not very smart

[orchid leaf]

Yea, that's me

[static sluice]

Not if they are messed up in favor you getting more items 😄

[round field]

yea i highly doubt thats the case

[orchid leaf]

OK, now the sim looks more realistic. Thank you, guys

[static sluice]

One can always dream

[delicate perch]

holy fuck

[orchid leaf]

No, I'm a substitute healer in our raids and healers get the good loot last, so I'm in this weird place.

[static sluice]

You are a main DPS but substitute as a healer if needed and dont get loot because of that? Probably resulting in getting benched more as DPS? Or am I missunderstanding?

[wise hare]

just sandbag your sims to make items look better

[round field]

Thats usually what warlocks do

Guys how much dps is item

And warlock is somehow 5x more than everyone

[sleek dirge]

Hey, sorry to butt in.
Questions about the Spark-crafted items : how do you choose which stats to pick ? crit/mast, haste/mast, haste/crit ?
the sims i do now could become very obsolete when i get other belts, boots or gloves for example.

[delicate perch]

you sim it against your current gear

[static sluice]

You just recraft if you get new gear

[round field]

yea thats just something you have to accept

or waste a lot of gold recrafting over and over

[static sluice]

I somehow feel offended

[orchid leaf]

So I'm always in the comp since I'm the only druid in our group. I only heal when one of our healers can't make it which happens more often than we like because of shift work. But on a fight where we need more than 4 healers, I will always have to heal and I will probably get loot last from them. Luckily that isn't that many bosses. But it sure feels weird

[sleek dirge]

oh yeah i forgot that recrafting existed, thanks !
do you need your gold for something else than crafts and comps ? 🤔

get the economy flowing 💸

[round field]

not rly

repairs crafts consumables

[stoic grotto]

is gaze just better or is there cases for locus walkers

[vital hound]

[vital hound]

so good

[sleek dirge]

damn.
yes, because you can still have the bonus when outside of combat (M+) whereas locus fades fast

but sim it just in case 😄

[static sluice]

How high are you up in the prio for either trinket in your raid 😄 Or does one lock you out of the other

[stoic grotto]

were splitting dreamrift but im p low on prio for gaze

[wise hare]

splitting

[stoic grotto]

locus walker im probably not getting until end of prog cause we arent rekilling crown

until then

[round field]

split dn

[sleek dirge]

depends on your own priority of what you want to do i guess then. Locus is supposedly better in long raid fights. Gaze would be better for higher keys

so Locus would help you "more" for your raid progress 🤔

check how much diff you have on your sims

[round field]

idk just slam gaze

no think

[sleek dirge]

zugzug shopping list

[stoic grotto]

gaze sims like 250 higher on 5min

[sleek dirge]

then it's probably better for you overall

[stoic grotto]

ait

[remote rain]

Are we bugged at all

[wise hare]

yes

should be doing like 10% more dmg

[weary lodge]

is this ever worth to run over myth crafted weapon to run 2x arcanoweave or bait

or just sim it

[ruby badger]

I mean a myth weapon should do better than a crafted one no matter the embellishments

[fresh garnet]

even for 3 ilvls?

4*

[ruby badger]

The extra ilvls worth of main stat and secondary tend to outweigh the benefit of an embellishment

but yeah sims usually your best bet

[royal zenith]

[ruby badger]

and I'd probably call it a waste of myth crests when you could get more mainstat + secondaries from getting a hero piece a myth upgrade

[wise hare]

i doubt that

highly

[ruby badger]

I haven't checked my embellishment sims since myth raid opened but it gave me a tiny DPS bonus

maybe that is misinformation, BUT I did say just sim

so I'm not legally liable

[fresh garnet]

Am I understanding this right, that I can bonus roll once a week, pr. raid?

[weary lodge]

well that's no embellishment just rawdogging the weapon swap

another day no stare no gaze

[wise hare]

yup

once per week in raids, twice in m+

[maiden pasture]

if u take tokens 2 weeks in a row u can roll 2 times in raid the 2nd week

[vital hound]

@delicate perch login

[delicate perch]

[green burrow]

guys did moonkin get aa nerf with meteorite dmg reduction?

[obsidian girder]

it hits 2 targets so no

[green burrow]

ah, it was only 1 target before? so then its even a buff

[sudden flame]

yes

[vital hound]

gg

[round field]

so bad

[jaunty blaze]

beeg offhand

[round field]

did u see

if you can get the tier as well?

[vital hound]

yea its offered

[round field]

cringeeeeeeee

[sudden flame]

[round field]

i will kill chim

bonus roll the tier chest

and then vault bonus roll

[vital hound]

ya not actually

[round field]

and roll trash

[vital hound]

upset lmao

[round field]

[sudden flame]

so its tier weapon and trinkets?

or can you get the dogshit belt

[vital hound]

waist

ya

[round field]

you can get belt ye

[vital hound]

good belt no?

cm?

[sudden flame]

absolutely cooked

[round field]

mby diff loot spec?

[sudden flame]

sure but who wants a belt if i can get the trinket

[round field]

i have 1/3 on dev

[vital hound]

feral has more

rest the same

[round field]

chest belt trink

feral has more

[sudden flame]

ye you just spec guardian tho

[blazing fossil]

if i got chim belt but i cata it will it still show up for bonus roll?

[round field]

it shouldnt?

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/cJq80yKHHoE.gif

[round field]

bonus roll only cares what it rolled beforehand

it doesnt give a shit what u have equipped

[vital hound]

ye

it only cares about rolls

[round field]

you can still get something you already have but didnt roll for it

[vital hound]

to stop bonus roll splits

lmao

[sudden flame]

guardian doesnt have the shitty ooze trinket on lootable so its - one item

[sudden flame]

what does balance vs resto look like for the loot table

[vital hound]

same

[pallid bay]

chest or ring..

[round field]

ur ragebaiting..

stop it

[vale pebble]

trinket

[pallid bay]

[latent light]

hey Guys, question was prob. asked before but. Can i get items i already wear in bonusroll? I mean not the ones i "rolled" before

[sleek dirge]

yes

[latent light]

dayum, thats unfortunate

thanks for answer tho 🙂

[sleek dirge]

bonus rolls look at your spec loot table and then gives you one of these
if you get for example a belt, then when you roll there again, you cant get that belt

so if you're chasing a specific item, check your other spec to see if it reduces the loot table

[vital hound]

socket

[sleek dirge]

feral and guardian loot spec often reduce that number

[latent light]

nice, so i have a 3 to 1 chance to get an item i already have on myth chimaerus.... prob. wont roll there

[sleek dirge]

everything to get that myth Gaze xD

[fading isle]

Token angle

[digital berry]

I got belt again

At least I got a free socky I guess

[latent light]

unlucky

[livid jay]

if i do this quest 6 times

to then get an item i already have

im unsubbing

[round field]

you mean a free bonus roll

[dire stone]

Quick question - starweaver / spender proc - do we interrupt a cast to spend or finish

[livid jay]

why would you have to interrupt something

[round field]

interrupting cast bad

[digital berry]

I guess you might munch a proc if you double proc but it’s better to do that then interrupt a cast

[livid jay]

u get a proc upon pressing the surge/starfall right

you have the global after to react to it

and press the correct button afterwards

[dire stone]

Think there’s one off wrath / star - that’s more what I’m referring to

[livid jay]

oh i get what u mean now

the free spender proc

[digital berry]

I guess with lust when you’re dumping you could not realize fast enough

[gentle patio]

We are like BM now? https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/comments/1sse0dv/why_am_i_druid_able_to_cast_all_my_spells_while/

[livid jay]

yea and gcd's are somehow very sluggish atm and u sometimes just munch some on accident

it is what it is

[dire stone]

Sorry normally melee player - last time I played range was ele and you always interrupted a cast to launch free meatball

[livid jay]

never cancel any cast

[dire stone]

Ok

[delicate perch]

shaman stinky

[livid jay]

even if its wrong cast

you finish it

[dire stone]

I was - will swap to always never

[gentle patio]

you can play elune on ST then

[dire stone]

Ty!

[digital berry]

I mean cancel a cast if you’re gonna die

[dire stone]

Haha fair

[delicate perch]

no

[dire stone]

Was trolling my wow analyzer for mythic and it was like - way too many cancels

[livid jay]

no

die

and remember to plan in the moving next time 😄

[digital berry]

Not enough asp in the world to be able to not cancel on vanguards

[lucid olive]

just proc

[proven swallow]

the myth alleria neck just went from a 0.9% upgrade to 0.0% sidegrade for me after i replaced a hc soulcatcher with myth gaze, is this expected or is something up with sims after the patch?

[lucid olive]

no that checks out

the alleria neck is the one that procs from shadow dmg right

and the soulcatcher trinket does shadow dmg

[proven swallow]

ahh

true, that makes sense then

[lucid olive]

so naturally it plummets in value when you remove the trinket

the neck isnt that good though tbh

[ember dock]

there is no way to skip the war of light and shadow part of the campaign on alts right?

[lucid olive]

i don't think you need to do it

[ember dock]

ah wrong dc sry, but thx...

yeah idc i couldnt continue with alts at the voidforge idk. gotta check again

[lucid olive]

only the leveling campaign is required afaik and you can skip that one

at least i hope its not required cause i haven't done anything

[ember dock]

haha 😄

[digital berry]

How cringe would it be to play ribbon and breath

Got it in myth track cause nobody else wanted it

[lone root]

Hey, i can't find a way to track stellar amp on my target frame, any idea ?

Dots show fine, but this don't

[lucid olive]

only trackable on boss frames

[digital berry]

Don’t need to track that shit just vibe it out

[lone root]

Ohh, thanks

[lone root]

Is this that useless to track it or ?

[digital berry]

Just can’t be bothered to stress that much over it, In my head it’s harder to drop on most raid fights then one would imagine but I’m probably wrong

[lone root]

I'm progging M Dragons, having double devo in the comp, can't touch a damn orb, was thinking well in that case i'll optimise my 2t dps and start 4surge each one of em in a loop

[digital berry]

No way the orbs die THAT fast

Send cds right before , tab as they spawn, shroom fire fall fall and you’re padding

[lone root]

Well they are

[delicate perch]

they literally get exploded by 1 dev man 2 would be insane

[lone root]

Usually, sending tree and CA 1s~ before they spawn, i can only press one shroom one starfall, things are not on my view anymore man

Well we also have one fury and one ret, i assure you they don't live long

+dk's grip, obvi

[static sluice]

Really no reason to play for pad damage if they explode anyways though? Unless the raidlead is an idiot

[digital berry]

No need to play for anything if the boss dies, might as well pad on reclears before you have to lock for crown prog

[lone root]

So i was thinking if i can't do "my job" by doing the heavy aoe part, i'll go for a more 2T thing, and was wondering how much was stellar amp x4 optimisation dps wise

[digital berry]

God bless we ain’t got a dev then

[trail vale]

so whats new with the boomie?

we playin meteorites now?

[digital berry]

I am pretty sure nothing changes

[wind ledge]

Am i crazy or does our rotation between CDs and non CDs feel real good and smooth to play compared to other dps?

[trail vale]

btw is it just me or are we having a down phase somewhere between 3 and 5 minutes where nothing is ready?

[delicate perch]

idk I don't play other dps

hope that helps

[wind ledge]

Yea

[delicate perch]

nice

[static sluice]

Well he said they are progging Dragons though?

[digital berry]

Cds feel extremely unimpactful outside of just doing more dmg

[digital berry]

Boss dam is most likely not the reason they haven’t killed yet tho

[wind ledge]

Well isnt the point of CD to do more dmg ??

[round field]

well ye but some cds are actually fun

instead of

"you do 20% more dmg"

[wind ledge]

Is it not fun to be SS and SF more often and procs?

[round field]

ca doesnt affect procs?

[static sluice]

Convoke is fun though. Sadly it is not really good unless you go for pure ST

[round field]

🤮

convoke is fun

ive heard it all

[delicate perch]

I love afking for 4s

[digital berry]

I mean obviously I like the spec but cds are very unimpactful on playstyle

[delicate perch]

very fun

[wind ledge]

If you do more SS or SF then u get more proca of starweaver

[round field]

its 10% haste

its barely noticable

[delicate perch]

[lucid olive]

20% in keeper

[round field]

[wind ledge]

I mean other classes literally only DPS during their CD window. At least we have eclipse windows to fill in

[lucid olive]

Eclipse is a CD window

[wind ledge]

That has 75% uptime nearly

[lucid olive]

but yeah you're not wrong

[round field]

yea but other classes have cds that actually do something gameplay wise

compare ca to like void meta

night and day

[lucid olive]

compare it to meta in general

[wind ledge]

Im just saying,i kinda want to reroll but looking into other dps.. moonkin at least feels fluid

[lucid olive]

even havoc meta is fun to play around