how many buttons do they have to press
#balance
stark meteor
lofty depot
I mean they don't have 12 buttons on the bar
So naturally only 4 buttons of said 12 are rotational
lofty depot
Mmhm mmhm
spice roost
thats crazy
wild dune
fun spec especially when u bug star out and get a free one
spice roost
and somehow people mess it up
royal zenith
how many buttons do they have to press
They added a new button
To press
Immolation something
stark meteor
does it glow and light up
wild dune
they actually press it now?
royal zenith
Yee
wild dune
its taken as a passive rn
lucid olive
oh and reap/eradicate
reap/cull/eradicate
royal zenith
Saw a vid this morning
lucid olive
royal zenith
By chance
royal zenith
Cause my devourer is still 83
stark meteor
i was doing the first pull of algethar with a dh and saw like 91% of their 500k dps was immolation something
lucid olive
I think the void scarred one you press The Hunt as well right?
stark meteor
and i actually went wtf
lucid olive
and then also Voidblade for some buff before meta?
wild dune
ye void scarred is way more involved
lucid olive
I think Dev DH is really fun though
wild dune
and way more fun imo
lucid olive
button count doesn't rly matter to me
wild dune
i hate annihilator
lofty depot
Yea, ret pally known for being good
wild dune
ret bangs rn
lofty depot
Mmhm mmhm
wild dune
real fun
stark meteor
i love to press glowing buttons (not much has changed since age 10)
wild dune
hammer of light give big dopamine
stark meteor
oh wait wtf if it released 2012 i was even younger than that
maiden pasture
reap/cull/eradicate
Doesn't show on logs so I don't know to press it 
maiden pasture
button count doesn't rly matter to me
Fr
I don't think pressing the same button is any less fun than pressing one button on repeat and then adding a single extra press every 10s
But to some people that makes a class more fun
stark meteor
i will say as much as i dislike eclipse being a cooldown it feels so good to be bottom of the charts for like 3 seconds and then doubling everyone else's dps
drifting nova
doubling? you what
lofty depot
I don't think that's exclusive to eclipse being a button
lucid olive
I don't think pressing the same button is any less fun than pressing one button ...
I also don't think the button you press the most should inherently be your highest dmg button (for some reason some people disagree with this)
glacial lion
did they remove the resource bar addon?
maiden pasture
I also don't think the button you press the most should inherently be your highe...
No shot people think a builder should be your top damage
lofty depot
People that like ec do
stark meteor
I don't think that's exclusive to eclipse being a button
makes the spec feel kinda clunky
lucid olive
No shot people think a builder should be your top damage
I think the example was Disintegrate for Evoker
but it was compared to Wrath spamming at early TWW
lofty depot
makes the spec feel kinda clunky
I disagree
drifting nova
starfall for cosmos regardless of spec right
lucid olive
crown of the cosmos?
lofty depot
Probably just surge
lucid olive
Starfall when there are 2 targets up
Starsurge the adds in P1 when they're at like 50% and less HP I guess
lofty depot
Droplets don't count now or something
drifting nova
but it doesnt change if its ec or kotg
drifting nova
wish ec had convoke
lucid olive
but even then I'd probably slam Starfall at start of P1 and then Starsurge to finish the adds off
EC with Convoke sims the highest in ST
the Convoke is 1 second longer channel as well..
lucid olive
25% increased time to pick your nose
drifting nova
more tea
stark meteor
I disagree
i think my view is a little skewed from other games and not really playing wow since SL tbh
lofty depot
Most people that have a problem with it have played for 12 minutes and don't see the benefit from it
stark meteor
think im still just bad at managing my eclipse uptime tbh
lofty depot
Casting 2 starfires while mechanics are going is clunky
But that's mythic bosses being hard
stark meteor
i love getting one shot by surges from aa trash because my interrupts are on cd
stark meteor
Casting 2 starfires while mechanics are going is clunky
echo of doragosa sucks so much for that
im positioning to not get hit by a ball then someone gets smacked
and then we just get blasted
lofty depot
Lol me doing 10s I'm getting 2 stacks and sending cds
sharp valve
Hi Fellas, if i spend a Ascendant Voidcore to upgrade my weapon (main hand) will need another Ascendant Voidcore to upgrade off-hand?
lucid olive
most likely
lofty depot
I assume u need cores per item not slot
Which is even if u upgrade 1 mythic trinket then get a replacement, u would need another core to upgrade ur replacement
drifting nova
Anyone who says anything for sure is probably full of bullshit
you can infact not get an upgrade this week
heavy iris
Anyone who says anything for sure is probably full of bullshit
it literally says in the patch notes
we finish the forge and now we have to craft his hammer
fossil hemlock
it literally says in the patch notes
Link?
Where in the notes does it say "this is not available week 1"?
All it says "after this small journey"
Is that 2 quests? Is that 3 weeks?
Who knows
Stay tuned
fair pasture
just double checking, archon is what warcraftlogs uses to upload logs?
heavy iris
U probably still believe in santa cause you never got proof he isnt real
drifting nova
hows devourer getting buffed wtf
covert coyote
just double checking, archon is what warcraftlogs uses to upload logs?
wat
fair pasture
what addon do u need to upload logs
is the better question
wclogs site only has archon
royal zenith
how is dk getting buffed you mean
drifting nova
that too
royal zenith
devourer is the mc
drifting nova
but fuck hero classes
royal zenith
that's a given
cloud citrus
i think dev will get nerfed next week same as dk surely
drifting nova
melee cleave feral
lucid olive
what addon do u need to upload logs
you don't need an addon to upload logs
but stuff like RaiderIO, MRT and SimpleCombatLogger have the option to perma enable logging
drifting nova
wait really?
lucid olive
all you need is to have Advanced Combat Logging checked in your settings and then do /combatlog in the chat
obtuse wedge
Genuine question, on mythic palis, is it ethical to position yourself on the edge of each aura to have higher uptime on hitting all three bosses with starfall?
drifting nova
padding is unethical
coral shell
Since my guild doesn't raid mythic 4th boss yet, I'll use the bonus rolls on Nexus Point rings (and maybe staff)
Do we know if using Ascendant Voidcores will cost Crests to upgrade the gear?
lucid olive
Genuine question, on mythic palis, is it ethical to position yourself on the edg...
Sure, long as you don't die to the absorb
the gain is minimal though and there are probably specs that are better than you at taking the absorbs
obtuse wedge
Yeah I wondered since we have made pretty good progress and are closing in on a kill if it’s even worth trying to cheese a little more percent.
hasty karma
Since my guild doesn't raid mythic 4th boss yet, I'll use the bonus rolls on Nex...
we are progging dragons rn and i am sitting on my rolls for as many weeks as it takes for us to kill it
lofty depot
Weeks 👀
hasty karma
yeah hopefully not weeks but maybe, we are a two night guild. we are still using some/one of our nights to reclear every week. we just got to dragons last week
lucid olive
dragon boss is not mechanically difficult, but there is a lot of shit going on at once
so if your guild has people that get easily overwhelmed or lose focus then i can imagine it taking a while
hasty karma
yeah we have some of that, but our raid leader for this fight will 21st from now on for it so i think that should help
lucid olive
but the fight is literally just splitting Gloom soaks into 2 groups, tanks sending in a circle around the room and getting the fuck out of the raid with dread breath
and hit the add in intermission
stark meteor
is that us reset or eu
drifting nova
today? us
smoky forge
My smooth brain is having some trouble understanding things in the rotation/priority for Balance.
- Why would we not try and use Eclipse/Celestial Alignment BEFORE Fury of Elune/Force of Nature for the damage boost?
- How is Solar Eclipse a gain over Lunar? Both Starsurge and Starfall get the bonus from Lunar right?
dense steeple
(Me with a green log)
dense steeple
My smooth brain is having some trouble understanding things in the rotation/prio...
- Math
- Math again
radiant jungle
its for the astral power gen
Ah that makes a lot of sense, I was wondering about that for the raid spec
smoky forge
So for my understanding,
Solar Eclipse buffs Wrath, Sunfire, Force of Nature(?)
Lunar buffs Starflare, Starsurge, Starfall, Moonfire, Fury of Elune?
exotic perch
no solar buffs wrath/sunfire, lunar starfire/moonfire
rest hit both
astral is both
drifting nova
tfw can only get into 10s for keys already done, never getting the other portals ig
smoky forge
astral is both
This is the line I was looking for. I didn't realize Astral was buffed under both Eclipses. Thanks!
lean trail
Do you guys know if an Ascendant Voidforged Hero 6/6 trinket also scales to 298 ilvl?
lean trail
I figured as much. Thanks! 🙂
exotic perch
you use the bonus roll to get it at myth then upgrade it
kindred pine
Is it worth starsurging on first boss of algathar and using the small adds as funnel or do you guys just Starfall spam?
lofty depot
Some of us play weaver in which case both are acceptable
royal zenith
if you want to funnel, at least play manual shrooms...
nimble tangle
so now yellow eye is our BiS again?
drifting nova
if you want to funnel, at least play manual shrooms...
thanks for reminding me to swap
royal zenith
yw
drifting nova
will get to practice alot BEFORE I GET INTO A KEY
except the dummies in dummyland are dummies
so do you just send them in cds
royal zenith
sure why not
drifting nova
sure why not
setting me up to fail harder than I already do
royal zenith
I think you're looking too deep into this
ribbon/gaze are good trinkets, vaelgor's is the best trinket in the game rn
BIS lists are whatever
lofty depot
ribbon was on overal BiS list
Both were on it, one is far easier to get on myth track
nimble tangle
dense steeple
lofty depot
Then draco said something like "why the fuck would we gear a boomkin"
lone root
Based statement
sharp valve
Guys, as KotG should i use Starsurge or Starfall in 2 targets? like dragon's mythic.
lucid olive
starfall
ebon pulsar
How do I use wild mushrooms on dragons? When should I use them?
Just when the orbs come out?
royal zenith
promise?
jaunty blaze
pinky promise fr on god no cap
lofty depot
How do I use wild mushrooms on dragons? When should I use them?
Do u have 2 blood dks
royal zenith
only 1.5
obsidian girder
increasing 2 per week
drifting nova
the dps I'm fighting for spots in 10s with be like
ionic surge
get me in @drifting nova
dull dust
guys is boomy op now
drifting nova
get me in <@253616853157412865>
yout hink you do but you dont
maiden pasture
metoerites toping dmg
Good bait tbf
ionic surge
imagine playing bamkin
when you could be chadmaxxing as brewmaster
Miikfu sends his regards
dull dust
rough
lofty depot
metoerites toping dmg
Show
dull dust
I cant am at work
lofty depot
Smh liar
dull dust
u should run a talent sim with the mdroute thing i posted
for funsies
see if meteorites does anything
royal zenith
no you do it!!
dull dust
I cant am at work
.
lofty depot
Could drop stellar amp for meteorites and surely it's an increase on total
lucid olive
doubt it
ebon pulsar
Do u have 2 blood dks
We do not.
lofty depot
Wouldn't worry about playing wild mushrooms then
maiden pasture
Miikfu sends his regards
Miikfu is a beast tho
ionic surge
Miikfu is a beast tho
he is
pure laurel
weird question but does meteorites talent have a visual animations? can't see the difference. Also, after tomorrow do we take the talent?
signal leaf
HELLO, why boomies play crit ? When i sim myself, crit is not higher (m+ build tho)
lofty depot
weird question but does meteorites talent have a visual animations? can't see th...
- Uhhh per chance
- Read the pin?
lofty depot
HELLO, why boomies play crit ? When i sim myself, crit is not higher (m+ build t...
Maybe u have a lot of crit
Maybe ur character is in need of other stats
wispy parrot
HELLO, why boomies play crit ? When i sim myself, crit is not higher (m+ build t...
im 26% crit and crit still sims highrt idk how u sim
signal leaf
not really, 489, 16%, playing void trinket tho
signal leaf
im 26% crit and crit still sims highrt idk how u sim
maybe there is a cap ?
outer oasis
Crit does well burst and st… but still lower priory than mast and haste
pure laurel
1. Uhhh per chance
2. Read the pin?
Yes i read it, but just saw info for bosses and I'm mostly into M+ since I'm really new 🙂
lofty depot
Wait what I read was restarted
wispy parrot
Crit does well burst and st… but still lower priory than mast and haste
crit sims higher then haste in any cenario for me
lofty depot
Yes i read it, but just saw info for bosses and I'm mostly into M+ since I'm rea...
Well as stated, nothing changes
lofty depot
Not to chancel tho
signal leaf
crit sims higher then haste in any cenario for me
weiiiirdddd, idk how i'm not
lofty depot
U do 10s so u could play cat weaving and time it
dull dust
not with the goof group I do those with
outer oasis
Ya.. but u have to have a decent haste in m+ whatever for doing greed cast
dull dust
lofty depot
Ya.. but u have to have a decent haste in m+ whatever for doing greed cast
"have to"
lime pebble
whats greed cast?
outer oasis
lol greedy sry not native speaker
lime pebble
i know, im just wondering what you meant
i've been off for so long
you meant like risking staying on puddle just to finish cast?
lofty depot
Usually yes
lime pebble
thank you!
lofty depot
That's what greeding a cast is
drifting nova
does the reset make us do real dam
jade flume
@pallid bay grats homie
lofty depot
ggz
pallid bay
<@148552191874039808> grats homie
ty 🫡
dense steeple
what did he do
dense steeple
ive seen bigger
dense steeple
gotta keep him humble
dull dust
actually gz damn
digital berry
looking at the pinned post, i assume if you already got a myth weapon youre not really gonna start by targeting weapon right
royal zenith
damn, pinned post with info... you still give people too much to think about gamz
never good enough 🫗
lofty depot
Marginal upgrade vs bis upgrade, hmm
royal zenith
(that's sarcasm btw)
digital berry
oh wait i didnt realize that section was about the voidcores ops
normal pilot
pin too long need grok summary
digital berry
no ai round here 
dull dust
@lofty depot summarize the pin k thx
lofty depot
Uhhh, tldr ur damage on important bosses didn't increase.
Ur m+ damage didn't increase and dk/dh did
Tldr #2, get fucked
naive siren
bonus roll for vaelgor trinket if i dont have it already sounds good i guess?
digital berry
sim it but most likely i guess?
naive siren
its on LFR difficulty better then anything els i can get ^^
digital berry
oh
lofty depot
I think it more depends when ur gonna start extending but yea
Cuz technically at worse case, nexus point rings are faster
3weeks vs 4, but to each their own
digital berry
but they arent that huge of a dps increase if you already got them maxed at hero no, and those are farmable
lofty depot
They are
Both rings are 1.6% for me
Vaelgors is more still, just effective % is lower
Just depends what u have.... Won't fault anyone for doing either tbf
I'm sending vaelgors cuz I think we start not reclearing after this week or after next :/
So have 2 weeks to get it or I'm fucked
digital berry
do you not have it or is it hero
unborn perch
sadge
lofty depot
As stated.... The rings are still a big increase and are faster to get
Vaelgors from champ.to myth + the ilvl increase was like 2.3%
digital berry
rings for me are 0.6 and 0.5% increase, i dont think ill be sending bonus rolls on anything but chimera
unless i get that shit in the vault today
heavy iris
you can also get the haste mastery staff from NPX
digital berry
not a dps increase for me
heavy iris
not by itself but if you do the staff/2 rings/recraft your second crafted piece with arcano it's probably more
digital berry
i mean we're talking about such little margins, id rather gamba for big ticket items
lofty depot
rings for me are 0.6 and 0.5% increase, i dont think ill be sending bonus rolls ...
Do u already have said rings
digital berry
i do have some shit gear but not in slots that are really relevant
brittle flame
Can someone explain to me why they nerfed the balance but buffed the DK?
digital berry
Blizzard hasn't cared about making balance useful for quite a long while
viscid rampart
Ascendant Voidcores upgrade makes a 285 crafted wep 298 as well? Same as upgrading a 289 wep?
lofty depot
Can someone explain to me why they nerfed the balance but buffed the DK?
We didn't get nerfed tho
lofty depot
Ascendant Voidcores upgrade makes a 285 crafted wep 298 as well? Same as upgradi...
No, it's 295
viscid rampart
Ah
modest wagon
If you dont actually read the changes to balance you may think it got nerfed
drifting nova
does anyone elses new tabs keep bugging
like a raid/party tab doesnt show anything even with boxes ticked
leaden birch
Devourer and udk getting buffed though because they needed it
drifting nova
smol arms buff
digital berry
devourer getting buffed ? That's hilarious
drifting nova
devourer getting buffed ? That's hilarious
forgot the first rule, hero class
= buff
wild dune
smol arms buff
8% st aint small man!
compact musk
So, like... why exactly was Meteorites nerfed? lol I'm trying to find the logic (bold of me to assume).
lofty depot
Did u read the change or
drifting nova
8% st aint small man!
feel like I'm griefing on bosses atm so, colo is so fun but so dog st
esp when pug tanks dont drag funnel in
compact musk
Did u read the change or
Meteorite Projectiles nerfed by 30%
lofty depot
Ok now read the change above that
brittle flame
Can someone explain the change ¡?
charred mango
no only read the changes that make you mad
lofty depot
12.0
Meteorite do 100 damage 1 target
12.0.5
Meteorite do 70 dam to 2 target
compact musk
Ok now read the change above that
2 targets instead of 1?
wild dune
compact musk
12.0
Meteorite do 100 damage 1 target
12.0.5
Meteorite do 70 dam to 2 target
Fair, I thought it was 2 targets before. My mistake.
brittle flame
oohh
compact musk
Technically a very small single target nerf, I guess.
Unless the projectiles can both hit the same target when there's not a second target.
royal zenith
watch me
lofty depot
You play it on fights where you're pressing starfall as a main spender
royal zenith
Ill play it on ST and prove you're wrong
compact musk
So that doesn't matter
Not exactly true, but I get your point.
lofty depot
What part isnt true
It doesnt change the builds ur playing cuz it was already worse on st than the alternatives
compact musk
Not every pull is going to be AoE, so you'd have times where you're having to choose which to be optimal in, no?
Like, what you're saying makes sense in a vacuum, but that's not how the game's played.
kind sage
if i use the new token in hc raid i get myth item anyways?
warm briar
No
charred mango
no
warm briar
Only content you get myth items is m+ at 10 or higher
You still have to raid mythic and kill the bosses to get myth track on bonus rolls
brittle flame
Is there anyone who speaks Spanish I can ask a million questions about the balance druid? hahaha i need help
compact musk
Is there anyone who speaks Spanish I can ask a million questions about the balan...
Good luck. People around here get really impatient with questions in my experience. 😅
fossil hemlock
This is not true, by the way
charred mango
think you’re interpreting tone in text as irritated instead of direct
exotic perch
Is there anyone who speaks Spanish I can ask a million questions about the balan...
i dont speak spanish but if anything id check the dreamgrove guide pinned and see if that can answer any
granted its in english
exotic perch
Good luck. People around here get really impatient with questions in my experien...
what the fuck man
fossil hemlock
You only get myth track from bonus rolls on myth bosses or +10s
exotic perch
gotta roll on them heroic ones
leaden birch
First thing im rolling for is heroic stare
lucid olive
Not every pull is going to be AoE, so you'd have times where you're having to ch...
can you explain?
lucid olive
idk any spanish speaking moonkins tbh
lofty depot
Habla un poco
lucid olive
I know moonkins in all the other big languages
royal zenith
you dont know dutch, stop lying
lucid olive
I know you
vital hound
Habla un poco
donda esta un sacapuntas
lucid olive
Deux counts as both portuguese and dutch so it's a two for one
royal zenith
No!
lucid olive
cyon told me your name was Alfred when i said you look like a Diego
fossil hemlock
Deux counts as both portuguese and dutch so it's a two for one
3 for one, I hear portugal is more brazillian than portogoose these days
drifting nova
I thought I knew a dutch word once
royal zenith
cyon told me your name was Alfred when i said you look like a Diego
we're talking cyon here
lofty depot
donda esta un sacapuntas
No say, esta en escuela?
royal zenith
he's ginger and probably knows about 6 names in general
lucid olive
am I close with the Diego at least?
compact musk
can you explain?
Well, in mythic+, you're going to be doing a lot of AoE, so you'd choose AoE talents, right? But then on boss fights where there aren't really a lot of adds, that's going to be suboptimal. That's all I meant. It's a small nerf within a specific situation, so it's not really a big deal. I was just saying that's where this would actually be a very small nerf, if you're even running Meteorite.
royal zenith
so no, diego is not close
compact musk
Also, no idea what the garfield emoji means. Could someone explain?
vital hound
No say, esta en escuela?
lo siento, me espanol vocabularo es muy puqueno
drifting nova
so no, diego is not close
are you also a dutch vanner?
lofty depot
U didn't play meteorites before because it was like that
compact musk
U didn't play meteorites before because it was like that
Fair
drifting nova
van der?
yeah, saw a vid about that last week, guess I never really thought about it
lofty depot
lo siento, me espanol vocabularo es muy puqueno
Si, habla un poco. My novia es de peru
lucid olive
Well, in mythic+, you're going to be doing a lot of AoE, so you'd choose AoE tal...
the talent loses a lot of value when there are additional targets up.. overall it's a buff in the content you would take the talent, and reading the development notes the change was made to give Meteorites a clear identity as being good at "low target counts"
vital hound
Si, habla un poco. My novia es de peru
yea idk man
warm briar
Van damme
lucid olive
which usually means anywhere from 2 to 5 targets
royal zenith
favourite van? and why is it van der sar
volkswagen surf van
lucid olive
favourite van? and why is it van der sar
van nistelrooy
drifting nova
van nistelrooy
acceptable
lucid olive
Van Soffthewall
royal zenith
yea idk man
he's saying his sister is from peru
compact musk
the talent loses a lot of value when there are additional targets up.. overall i...
Thank you for the clarification. This was a really helpful response.
royal zenith
no jk I dont remember what novia means
drifting nova
he's saying his sister is from peru
doesnt that also make him from peru?
vital hound
drifting nova
warm briar
no jk I dont remember what novia means
Novia is girlfriend, unless Spanish has evolved
lucid olive
yeah i was boutta correct Deux
not because I know spanish better, but because I know Arctic..
now that's a self report..
royal zenith
drifting nova
aug players make me
compact musk
ok bud <:shrugeg:1115674346120294591>
Aren't the servers currently down?
royal zenith
think they just went up
drifting nova
Aren't the servers currently down?
I'm a time traveller
charred mango
Aren't the servers currently down?
there are other regions in the world
compact musk
I'm a time traveller
drifting nova
I've just accepted the fact I'm only getting seat 10s
like needing experience for your first job
compact musk
there are other regions in the world
It just told me no realms were up when I checked, so I wasn't sure what else to think.
charred mango
eu and cn have their resets later in the week than na
royal zenith
like needing experience for your first job
it's actually exactly like irl
drifting nova
literally
royal zenith
that's why nepotism is so strong
charred mango
not realms
drifting nova
we've mimiced the real world
cant do 10 without a 10 even with a 8/9+3
10s only
its reset day again, guild has broke again
eternally loading
dense steeple
servers soon tm
compact musk
eu and cn have their resets later in the week than na
You're the one that brought up realms. I don't follow.
err
drifting nova
I am once again asking to remove physical keys
compact musk
*Regions
drifting nova
thank you
pseudo merlin
I am once again asking to remove physical keys
irl?
drifting nova
oh god no, we need those
royal zenith
in game too
pseudo merlin
yup
lucid olive
oh god no, we need those
we do?
pseudo merlin
why do you need keys irl anyway
royal zenith
we need 2factor on our doors tbh
drifting nova
enter door
dull dust
guys just saw the wowhead tuning, so when's the real tuning drop
compact musk
we need 2factor on our doors tbh
🤮
charred mango
You're the one that brought up realms. I don't follow.
atp I don’t know what you’re asking, but being surprised that people are online during North American maintenance means you forgot that other regions than North America are allowed to play WoW
pseudo merlin
we need 2factor on our doors tbh
nah just a thumbprint scanner
drifting nova
why do you need keys irl anyway
I still pay with cash so I am behind the times
lucid olive
why do you need keys irl anyway
I give off such "grew up in bumfuck nowhere" energy man, the only time I lock my door is when I'm already inside
pseudo merlin
damn you have money?
royal zenith
paying with cash is insane
drifting nova
rolls of it
pseudo merlin
I give off such "grew up in bumfuck nowhere" energy man, the only time I lock my...
relatable
dull dust
I give off such "grew up in bumfuck nowhere" energy man, the only time I lock my...
u lock ur doors?
pseudo merlin
I lived in Romania I didnt lock my house or car
pseudo merlin
unless I left for months
dull dust
thats what dogs are for city slicker
lucid olive
I only lock my car so I remember to bring my keys, cause if not it's gonna lock me out..
drifting nova
I'm not scanning my own shit smh
royal zenith
btw, serious question about meteorites, we keep saying "it won't change any of the builds we play" but is there any build that's actually communicated on wowhead/dreamgrove that grabs meteorites? @lucid olive
lucid olive
ec paladins and kotg dragons i think
royal zenith
kotg dragons is on dreamgrove?
lucid olive
wowhead
compact musk
btw, serious question about meteorites, we keep saying "it won't change any of t...
Not currently on Dreamgrove. Might change?
dull dust
and we will still be shit regardless
lucid olive
its in these..
royal zenith
Not currently on Dreamgrove. Might change?
yeah dw I know how they work
as in
who writes them
lucid olive
I can update DG talents too but those take more time since I have to do color coding
royal zenith
wowhead check
pseudo merlin
I give off such "grew up in bumfuck nowhere" energy man, the only time I lock my...
meanwhile in New York they're locking up M&Ms behind those cases they used to put €100+ video games in in my country
royal zenith
I can update DG talents too but those take more time since I have to do color co...
yeah dw
lucid olive
There is a "Season 1 Raid Tips" page on the wowhead guide with talents + some random tips for the bosses
royal zenith
just wondering for/if/when people ask
lucid olive
sure
pseudo merlin
its wild out there
royal zenith
still waiting for chancel to stop pretending he works
lucid olive
meanwhile in New York they're locking up M&Ms behind those cases they used to pu...
LMAO
royal zenith
we need the dungeon route sim
dull dust
its functional
pseudo merlin
need 3 different keys and an eye scanner and 2 employees to turn a key at the opposite ends of the store to unlock the cheese cabinet
dull dust
sort of
royal zenith
need 3 different keys and an eye scanner and 2 employees to turn a key at the op...
I think that's fair
although...
they recently released m&m's cookie dough
pseudo merlin
elaborate
i dont even know what to picture
like m&ms filled with cookie dough or
royal zenith
I tried them, they are good
royal zenith
charred mango
the best m&ms are the peanut butter ones (not peanut)
pseudo merlin
thats crazy
spice roost
ya there gross
charred mango
but the pb ones >>
pseudo merlin
@drifting nova idk why ur crying, mixed bag is pretty good?
i got 8 points in it now
8/18
just gotta get tzhaar-ket-em and d2h
maybe a few godswords
lucid olive
I'm not a fan of M&Ms in general
pseudo merlin
same
but cookie dough sounds fantastic
I only liked those ultra tiny m&ms as a kid
pseudo merlin
because kinder is insane?
lucid olive
kinder bueno is good but Norway has a lot of good milk chocolate in general
pseudo merlin
even the eggs are amazing
digital berry
the best kinder is paradiso but they dont got that in the us
digital berry
its soft vanilla lemony sponge with cream inside whats horrific about that
royal zenith
ye
restive jolt
perfect
royal zenith
extra info in pins
pseudo merlin
the best kinder is paradiso but they dont got that in the us
huh
ive not heard of that
royal zenith
americans get it early
restive jolt
im oce
royal zenith
or oce
pseudo merlin
the best kinder is paradiso but they dont got that in the us
ok you're officially not allowed to have opinions anymore
I looked it up
That aint it buddy
pseudo merlin
No wonder I've never seen it anywhere
why the fuck would I want to bite a cloud
?????
How is that a positive
lucid olive
bro its just mass produced cake slop
digital berry
I'm not american brother i just live here
lucid olive
i saw a few pictures of it before i realized i've probably had it 100 times before in different names LOL
charred mango
lucky being not american
lucid olive
same
charred mango
gotta find a Canadian to marry or adopt me
dull dust
me when i've never had real baked goods before
can u bring some for the class
drifting nova
<@253616853157412865> idk why ur crying, mixed bag is pretty good?
it works when it highrolls, it does nothing with shit weps which you have until hally
its an uber late build
dull dust
gotta find a Canadian to marry or adopt me
ill adopt u but u gotta pay all my bills for me and take care of me when im old
drifting nova
I'm not american brother i just live here
pseudo merlin
it works when it highrolls, it does nothing with shit weps which you have until ...
? this is already doing insane dam
drifting nova
yeah you see I'm still on temotlis and om with sulphur
drifting nova
idk if I can be bothered to do echo amox for the wep
drifting nova
sureee
pseudo merlin
you literally dont take dmg
drifting nova
and I'm obama
pseudo merlin
and the fight ends in under 20 seconds
dull dust
and I'm obama
do u care
charred mango
and I'm obama
why did you drone strike so many children
wild dune
obamna
pseudo merlin
If you were obama you'd be making change
drifting nova
why did you drone strike so many children
love of the game
charred mango
nice
drifting nova
pseudo merlin
he does love blowing up kids
but man if he isnt the most charismatic man on the planet
impossible not to like
drifting nova
here I go wiping to chim again
because jimmy whos done it on mythic thinks a mechanic is optional
drifting nova
yeah, trying to do it on war, think it was 6? wipes on druid few days ago
upto 2 on war
pseudo merlin
ivory sentinel
can you macro icarn & fury of elune into 1 or is that eh?
pseudo merlin
wouldnt do that
ivory sentinel
bet.
pseudo merlin
kekkers did you take wildy yet
drifting nova
no and i wont
pseudo merlin
missing out
drifting nova
thats asgarnia bud
drifting nova
fake godwars
drifting nova
yeah
drops ecu keys, to make getting into gwd without kc
but the actual bosses arent there
pseudo merlin
ah
compact musk
can you macro icarn & fury of elune into 1 or is that eh?
You can only get away with that if the cooldowns are the same, they're both off GCD, and the abilities are pretty much always used at the same time. None of these are true for these abilities. @pseudo merlin is right.
pseudo merlin
10?
drifting nova
I DIED TO THE DOT
pseudo merlin
...
drifting nova
I just want the kill for the trink to not drop
like how hard is it
to roll against 29 other people
indigo ether
Roll for Mythic Gaze (I dont have any version of the trinket) or Roll for Heroic Stare
im a pugger
royal zenith
probably would not ever roll for anything heroic
if Im honest
but that's from a luxury pov
charred mango
my attempts at pugging m chim on alt have not gone well
indigo ether
I have a champion version
I've gotten so unlucky
that i've paid a collective 650k
royal zenith
oof
indigo ether
for the LFR and Champion verisions to get those trinkets
royal zenith
but yeah what chancel said
really depends on if you're able to clear dragons with a group
preferably guild so there's actually a chance you can get one
indigo ether
im tempted to join a guild tbh but im not sure i can keep up the obligations once i start residency in june
cause pugging is reducing my life span
royal zenith
if you're gonna pug, might be worth looking into heroic stare ye
charred mango
that’s a June problem not an April one
indigo ether
that’s a June problem not an April one
dont wanna mislead or leave people hanging
dull dust
just become a crafter and make enough money u can buy a boost
lofty depot
im tempted to join a guild tbh but im not sure i can keep up the obligations onc...
theres not many obligations for some guild in the 800ish range, let alone 1300
charred mango
I was joking
meager storm
up 
royal zenith
you say that, but rosterboss is probably the most important obligation 💀
drifting nova
rosterboss no more with flex
dull dust
SERVERD
pseudo merlin
calm down buddy
indigo ether
isnt that a one time thing
pseudo merlin
it's 1 boss
indigo ether
the flex raid
dull dust
soma check my vault.for me
charred mango
as a 1 day a week raider I get not wanting the time commitment
lofty depot
1 day...
dense steeple
soma check my vault.for me
charred mango
1 day!
indigo ether
theres not many obligations for some guild in the 800ish range, let alone 1300
I'll look into it.
charred mango
Saturdays 12-4pm locken
lofty depot
I'll look into it.
the only obligations part thats tough is if ur schedule rotates days
analog moat
Ze servers do be up.
charred mango
a number of our players raid in other guilds too but i'm happy with 1 day
lofty depot
LFG
charred mango
gjgj
digital berry
damn fuck
charred mango
enjoy your nexus point rolls
indigo ether
the only obligations part thats tough is if ur schedule rotates days
wrong reply
I have a mythic track offhand
drifting nova
sometimes I wonder if people can read and/or dont have rio installed
digital berry
lots of people i fell do not use RIO
pseudo merlin
you're cute
lucid olive
why would i install rio
pseudo merlin
LFM Chim, have exp. Means have HOF or item level 285
pseudo merlin
I GOT MYTH VAELGORS FINALLY
you said LFG, what are you looking for a group for
lofty depot
also 4/6 cuz we killed cosmos
dense steeple
what do i click
pseudo merlin
what do i click
oooooo
lofty depot
4-5-1-6-2
charred mango
luckyvault
drifting nova
LFM Chim, have exp. Means have HOF or item level 285
like its always the dogwater 2mythic killers with grey parses too I dont get it
lofty depot
vaelgors in 1 surely
digital berry
why am i the only one that just cant fucking log in
pseudo merlin
I think it's 5
dense steeple
dull dust
not bad
dense steeple
dull dust
take windy
pseudo merlin
oof
lucid olive
Luckyone made the addon for Doctorio afaik, but it seems to have caught on (nvm I'm wrong)
leaden birch
this might just be the worst vault I've ever gotten lmao
dull dust
this might just be the worst vault I've ever gotten lmao
bonus roll
leaden birch
bonus roll
fr
dull dust
surely
dense steeple
ive been had
lofty depot
RIP
charred mango
hoping for a myth stare in my vault too (we have not killed dragons yet)
digital berry
leaden birch
all I wanted was heroic stare
lucid olive
ive been had
good weapon
leaden birch
now I have to go roll on it and also not get it again
digital berry
wait cant you buy the ilvl upgrading item for the 6 tokens?
leaden birch
p sure asc voidcores are random drops
sleek dirge
wait cant you buy the ilvl upgrading item for the 6 tokens?
no, the six tokens are for the nebulous voidcore (the bonus roll one)
delicate perch
good weapon
somas reaching kekkers level of do not interact I swear
dense steeple
somas reaching kekkers level of do not interact I swear
wtf
delicate perch
is what it is
dense steeple
you could not insult me any worse than that
dense steeple
u get bonus roll now
where
drifting nova
you could not insult me any worse than that
sleek dirge
dense steeple
sleek dirge
then idk 🤡
im in EU so its not live here yet
dense steeple
so why are we not taking weapon
cuse have myth craft when i could get another voidcore to spend on m+?
copper gate
would both nexus point rings at a myth level be bis
lucid olive
yes
sleek dirge
yes
copper gate
NO MEME?
lucid olive
cuse have myth craft when i could get another voidcore to spend on m+?
sus
send me ur vault sim
lucid olive
taking weapon and fully upgrading is 20 myth
your other gear according to raiderio is already fully upgraded
which means you can craft wrists or whatever with 80 myth
delicate perch
yea but he could rng a myth item (he will not get a good one)
lucid olive
so you can have 298 weapon + 2 crafted item embellishments by spending your weekly myth cap
dense steeple
lucid olive
compared to 295 weapon with embellishment + 1 piece with 285 arcanoweave and 80 crests leftover
dense steeple
and then just roll with no crests for when i roll avaelgor tonight at raid?
versed zephyr
hi! any reason for updates to bis list from beloren wep to M+ wep? did something change?
dense steeple
i am getting the sim for you
sleek dirge
Speaking of which, Gamz, in your wowhead update, you said that prio for Ascendant Voidcores should be on the Crafted 2h cane. But now that it can be easier to get the other 2H weapons with the bonus rolls, shouldn't we just focus on them to ascend them to 298 and gain the 4 ilvl instead of ascending the Crafted 2h to 295 ?
lucid olive
Speaking of which, Gamz, in your wowhead update, you said that prio for Ascendan...
tooltip states any myth track weapon works here
sleek dirge
I'm thinking for example of the Corespark Multitool haste+mastery staff in Nexus point
lucid olive
it's just to show your highest priority should be upgrading a weapon
not which weapon
lucid olive
hi! any reason for updates to bis list from beloren wep to M+ wep? did something...
yeah i felt like updating it so i updated it
you shouldn't take "bis lists" as gospel like that
there are multiple different sets of gear that will all be about the same damage
versed zephyr
just curious then did you run sims and find something out, or new voidcore interaction or something? I run sims but seeing face value some goals is cool too! appreciate the work u do !
drifting nova
no rift trink
lucid olive
Any weapon sims good there tbh, but a myth track m+ weapon is easier to get than a myth track Belo'ren weapon
drifting nova
big if true
versed zephyr
i see, so youre saying it was relatively the same but one is just more achievable for most
lucid olive
yeah
the staff from Seat is good as well
then you just do 2x crafted pieces with Arcanoweave Lining
delicate perch
bugs? on patch day?
dull dust
forced ptr day*
heavy iris
4 more weeks for upgrades lul
lucid olive
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/87uDscVpzFrRVXsdSZdQgm
is that 70 with or without current cap
lucid olive
so your actual myth crests is 170
dense steeple
yes
digital berry
this is a CRIME
delicate perch
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/87uDscVpzFrRVXsdSZdQgm
bros sim starts with 9
dull dust
🥀
lucid olive
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/87uDscVpzFrRVXsdSZdQgm
guess the item upgrade thing is bugged for now
should just be 1 voidcore here instead of the initial crafting cost
dense steeple
it does say top of screen it wont be up for about an hour
lucid olive
yeah
i reported it in raidbots discord anyway
not like it's that necessary to sim either
i would rather take the head socket over another bonus roll
wise onyx
do we have any big talent changes?
lucid olive
no
wise onyx
ok ty
fossil shard
so you can have 298 weapon + 2 crafted item embellishments by spending your week...
Well, I mean not for 3 more weeks he can’t
dense steeple
Well, I mean not for 3 more weeks he can’t
why 3 weeks?
fossil shard
Can’t 298 until then
dense steeple
we cant even boost our gear yet?
lucid olive
that checks out
dense steeple
lucid olive
the voidcore shit was barely tested on PTR
fossil shard
lucid olive
everyone went off vague blue post on how the system works
fossil shard
Shocker lol
dense steeple
thats so funny
fossil shard
Dr. Atnos was right once again
dense steeple
god i hate when hes right
dull dust
this is why we choose to work on tuesdays
skip all the bugs log in when servers are fine
fossil shard
Amen
torn trout
hmmm...
dreamy locust
guess the item upgrade thing is bugged for now
Is ascendant voidcore stuff out this week?
or is that next week or later
oh I see posts below yours, 3 weeks then?
exotic perch
skip all the bugs log in when servers are fine
yeah i cant play my shaman lol
game thinks im logged in and using AH bricked character
dull dust
think im gunna watch all of yu gi oh tonight
modest wagon
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/atBumQayepe9xZb8uuYmgV
Is it worth dropping Alh'nara Cane for a Final Grade and crafting another arcanoweave item at this point in the season?
lucid olive
sure
modest wagon
Otherwise I'm prob taking 6 tokens
ok I'll commit, trying to sim more but the queue is so long rn and raid is in 50 min
dull dust
id say do it
indigo ether
what do I take here
lofty depot
can only reroll 1 time per dungeon
lucid olive
what do I take here
belt
dense steeple
@lucid olive https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mueaKfTYBtpaHgw6WfWC4V seem worth?
dull dust
sim
lucid olive
<@147914503588282368> https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mueaKfTYBtpaHgw6WfW...
yeah thats basically what i was simming earlier
but also add crafted wrists next week when you get new craft and do 2x arcanoweave lining instead of the iris
meager storm
4 more weeks for this sht is insane
dense steeple
even at 289 this wins out
indigo ether
sim
max upgrade its .5% better. But im hoping that I might be able to use my crests on a mythic gaze (either from reroll or from getting lucky on a base roll if it drops)
lucid olive
max upgrade its .5% better. But im hoping that I might be able to use my crests ...
have you already killed mythic chimaerus
indigo ether
have you already killed mythic chimaerus
not yet this week
lucid olive
but you've done in previous weeks
indigo ether
ya
lucid olive
so you can technically hold your upgrades to see if you get the trinket this week then
and then decide after
lucid olive
yeah id probably still take belt
just don't dump crests into it until you're sure you can't get anything more worthwhile this week
indigo ether
kk roger
ivory barn
DRUID
Balance
Meteorites has been updated – Every time Starfall drops a wave of stars, a meteorite also falls on up to 2 targets in its range, each dealing Astral damage.
Meteorite projectile damage reduced by 30%.
da fk is this lol
lucid olive
read pins
lofty depot
those are called patch notes
ivory barn
Tnx