balance

[dark trail]

Yeah... eyes get drawn to the red writing saying cannot craft and blank everything else out

[jaunty blaze]

I guess its a bit misleading ye

[steel palm]

is myth feather worth it chat?

for m+

[fossil hemlock]

Sim it, but if you don't have any on use trinkets, probably

Dragon trinket in general is a lot stronger though

[steel palm]

i am using these

[vagrant bear]

Are sims to be trusted if they say 2 times Arcanoweave Lining is better than one and Darkmoon Sigil: Hunt ?

[fossil hemlock]

2x arcanoweave and 289 weapon is better than 1x arcano and 285 weapon with hunt

Or should be, anyway

[royal zenith]

what's there to not trust?

other then a human's judgement call in setting up the sims

[fossil hemlock]

So trust nothing, gotcha

[delicate perch]

if you trust it im not

[vagrant bear]

thx a lot

[royal zenith]

that's basically life or

[fossil hemlock]

Real

[royal zenith]

are you that gullible...

(People is)

[grim crater]

Is wow analyzer good??

[round field]

become the wow analyzer urself

stop relying on external tools

[grim crater]

I'm just asking cause yesterday I used it when i saw it on faq and didn't know what the opinion is on it

[livid karma]

Does simming with Dungeon Slice work for M+ or do we have to use combo of target number/fight duration to work out best for M+?

[round field]

its usable but not really activly maintained

[round field]

dslice doesnt work

[royal zenith]

this

[pallid bay]

there was a guy who said he would maintain it no

[royal zenith]

there is a guy working on it, but I dunno how much time he has to actually work on it

[vale pebble]

he lied

[royal zenith]

or has spent

[livid karma]

Would you just combine a patchwerk, 1 tar, 3 min with like a patchwerk, 5-8 tar, 1 min? or would that be cooked haha

[round field]

i always just went with 1 min 5 target

why complicate when u can do simple

wait no

cut that

5 min 1 target

[livid karma]

Ahah using M+ talents tho I pressume

[royal zenith]

I dunno, really just depends on what you want to know

[round field]

i personally simmed st targets always

but i dont rly care about optimizing m+ so

its good enough

[analog cedar]

is feather good for balance

[lofty depot]

Not really no

[analog cedar]

ok ty friend

[sour venture]

I can't seem to equip the Aln'hara Cane on my boomie?

No errors, nothing

Just refuses to equip

Anyone have any idea what might cause this

[granite moat]

tried reloading?

[sour venture]

Yeah

Gonna relog

Super strange... Still can't equip it

I can equip every other staff/mh-oh I've got

[round field]

do u have like

3 embelishments

[sour venture]

Yeah just realised

That's the issue here

This would've been my third

[round field]

[sour venture]

[rigid flame]

I am running 16+ dungeons and was wondering if there is any amount of haste that pushes to 'break points' or whatnot. Looking at all the top M+ boomies, they tend to prioritize mastery and then haste with mastery being prioritized (even though when simming haste as EC is superior). Any suggestions? Just stack as much haste as possible?

[ruby badger]

No breakpoints

[twin lotus]

I think just sim?

[ruby badger]

who are you looking at thats doing mastery then haste

Just sim it mostly but when I last checked I think most usually had crit 2nd highest

which doesn't really matter but just seems to be the path my gear is taking as well from sims

[lofty depot]

The "top boomies" aren't optimizing for m+ yet. And it's like week 5 of gearing. You take what u can get.

[rigid flame]

That makes sense. So just trust the sim, as always and stack haste?

[lofty depot]

And a lot of it is prioing Crit over mastery to some extent

But depends on ur gear

[ruby badger]

I mean haste seems to be doing worse than crit + mastery for me atm

[livid jay]

what are you simming for m+?

[ruby badger]

Canexx's balance druid thats 3.7k atm has more crit than mastery and haste

[tranquil vault]

would it be worth to get the emberwing from vault instead of theother 2

[livid jay]

elunes chosen 5min1Target?

[rigid flame]

When specced kotg, crit mastery is priority. But for my EC builds haste sims highest. Ilvl 279 atm

[ruby badger]

when you say "haste sims highest" wdym

[rigid flame]

I've tried a few different builds. Typically single boss and variations of 2-10.

[ruby badger]

like your top gear / quick sims are showing higher dps with haste jewelry?

[rigid flame]

I have done that too.

[rigid flame]

Yes. Not at my PC, but I can drop a link later today

[ruby badger]

I mean if it sims higher then go for it

That's why they're good, most people need more crit / mastery but you can end up pretty anemic in terms of haste with certain gear setups I imagine

[twin lotus]

crit seems to have jumped a lot in value for me when i got to 280~

[fallen ivy]

Hi, I have a question: how do I simulate for M+?

[royal zenith]

You don't really

or can't

[rigid flame]

Thanks for the input all. I'll update later

[royal zenith]

until MDT routes gets implemented/supported

Or if dungeon cleave w.e. is supported

[lofty depot]

That's not only true for keeper tho

[maiden pasture]

Your best bet is running a number of different sims and combining them all to come to a conclusion

[lofty depot]

Fuggn 3400 big mount saddlers coming in, gotta optimize m+ otherwise I can't complete 16s

[raw fox]

They won’t be coming in

Noone is going to invite a balance druid

[maiden pasture]

When are you coming back king

[raw fox]

Wym bro I’m blasting

[lofty depot]

Canexx doing fine

[raw fox]

Canexx is going to get an invite on an hpal for a dps spot

You just invite the goat and don’t question it

[rigid flame]

Lol. I could care less about a mount, just trying to get that overall DMG number up. Chasing the devourers feels bad

Now if it was a cool weapon skin or particle effect...

[maiden pasture]

mums?

[proven carbon]

hey guys might be a stupid question but should i pick a alnseer hero trinket that sims 0.7% higher or a crit/mastery ring that sims 1.3%. Im thinking trinket cause thats harder to get?

[atomic sequoia]

depends on how available mythic alnseer trinket is for you

[proven carbon]

how puggable is it?

[delicate perch]

real

[jolly delta]

if you have time

it is

[proven carbon]

good to know

[delicate perch]

it would all depend how good you are tbh

any pugs would just kick you if you suck because theres no lockout

[proven carbon]

mostly seeing CE only groups atm haha

[royal zenith]

CE?

for that specific boss or

[jolly delta]

ye you get CE

[royal zenith]

kek

it also makes sense they want people with experience

[jolly delta]

cant wait to use it to get into a HOF guild

[royal zenith]

it's very annoying to reprog that shi

t

[lucid olive]

Should get locked to the raid after engaging him the first time when the trash spawns

People would be so happy with that I think

[delicate perch]

Lock them to the other two raids while they’re at it tbh

[jolly delta]

I love pugging mythic where no one understands how mythic lockouts work

and by love I mean hate

and by hate I mean please just end me

[trail heath]

I love when you get someone who joins your pug and then 10 mins later they are like why can’t I see you guys in raid

[royal zenith]

well you're perma undergeared so you always get invited to demon groups @jolly delta

so yeah..

[jolly delta]

too busy fighting the system

[proven carbon]

imma pick the myth ring, gotta stay ambitious

[jolly delta]

(also well, every mythic pug group is a demon group)

[dense steeple]

The real dogshit thing is that the bar is just being raised for no reason. 3400 will be the new standard like 3k was in tww, and your pugs are only going to get worse the higher you go because they all want the mount. its the top 1% that people will be shoving to.

[royal zenith]

I disagree

the bar -should- be raised if dungeons are this easy

[jolly delta]

lets be real, with how easy dungeons are this season

[royal zenith]

ye

[jolly delta]

3.4k is the old 3k

[dense steeple]

3k wasnt hard before

[lime pasture]

how do you guys simm a dungeon?

[jolly delta]

neither is 3.4k now

[royal zenith]

neither is 3.4k right now

[dense steeple]

Its just miserable to pug

[royal zenith]

kek

[jolly delta]

deux you're getting too similar to me for my taste

be careful

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

3.4k is piss or

[proven carbon]

im just happy with my 3k even tho its easier this season

[royal zenith]

I think it's like all 17's or all 18's?

[lucid olive]

i pugged to like 3.5k on havoc last season

[royal zenith]

people were doing 19s first week of the season

[jolly delta]

not piss but still fairly doable

[royal zenith]

like don't overestimate this shit

[dense steeple]

The higher you have to pug the more likely you find dogshit players who dont belong. Youre already getting dogshit players in 13s like 1/4 runs. Now imagine getting dogshit players in your 15s every 1/1

[lucid olive]

probably more like all 16s and 17s i think

[red nymph]

is MM an easy spec or does it take a lot of work to make make aimed shot does 50% of your damage?

[royal zenith]

getting or not getting dogshit players is not really based on any score or keylvl

they just are or they are not

[lofty depot]

Think it's 16 or 17

[lucid olive]

i had 3568 on DH last season and i did four 18s, two 17s and two 16s

[dense steeple]

I shouldn't have to run a 16 AA 17 times before I time it

M+ bad minigame. Stop raising the bar

[cobalt junco]

For embellishments wats the bis slots to craft them? is it still Off hand hunt with mythtrack wep and arcano on off tier piece?

[lofty depot]

U don't use hunt eventually

[lucid olive]

depends on the fight

[cobalt junco]

so when i get myth weps, i make 2 arcano?

[lucid olive]

yes

[cobalt junco]

ahhh okok ty !

[dense steeple]

You aren't crafting for bis later youre crafting for gain now

[lucid olive]

+1

[cobalt junco]

yeah we almost at that stage so im just crafting so i dont troll my self and waste a craft

[dense steeple]

Youre almost 289 ilvl? Nice

[lofty depot]

Crafts aren't wasted, crests are

[cobalt junco]

noo XD but my upgrades are just mythic now

[dense steeple]

That doesnt make you close to bis

[cobalt junco]

and i dont wanna pass on a myth wep that i actually want XD

[lime pasture]

how do you guys sim into m+ on raidtools?

[red nymph]

vibez

[raw fox]

100%

i will reach 3.3 soon

[jaunty blaze]

Crazy

[lofty depot]

1% creep is coming

Locken

[raw fox]

I’m pretty sure this szn you can boost top 1% with 3 iranians from a boosting community with no vc

M+ is ultra boring

[jaunty blaze]

They might be unable to for some time

[lime pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

how do you guys sim into m+? please

[jaunty blaze]

Just slam 1t5m

[lime pasture]

okay

[raw fox]

Difference is negligible most of the time

Just slam the st sim and dodge circles

[lofty depot]

If we ignore the m+ sim questions surely they'll go away

Or the white names will answer

Mmmhm mmhm

[raw fox]

“White names”

Nice!

[lime pasture]

toxic, i come here for help, there is nothing pinned

help a boomie out brother

[lucid olive]

solitary should be green name

[jaunty blaze]

It's ok

[lofty depot]

There is in the guide

[lucid olive]

solitary should be top orange name actually

[lofty depot]

But clicking a link is hard I suppose

[lucid olive]

solitary for admin

[raw fox]

I’m aiming for purple tbh

So I can unban turtle

[jaunty blaze]

Janitor color

[grim crater]

What sim option do you guys put in raid bot?

[raw fox]

Patchwerk

[lofty depot]

All of them

[lucid olive]

read FAQ in #1473018731687841853

[lime pasture]

ty

[lofty depot]

Can u edit ur original post in there to link to the faq

Surely that helps

(it won't)

[lucid olive]

huh

[lofty depot]

That's not what I said

The pinned comment

Link to the faq

[lucid olive]

sure

[lofty depot]

Make sure it's visible cuz the bottom half of that post doesn't show wowhead or icyveins links

[raw fox]

A lot of requirements from someone who just bullies people in here

[dense steeple]

What am I chopped liver

[lofty depot]

Yea get mad

[raw fox]

Ur not me

[royal zenith]

who even is solitary

[lofty depot]

Yea yea surely that helps

Mmhm mmhm

[royal zenith]

peak nepotism

for even suggesting

[raw fox]

I LOVE NEPOTISM

[lofty depot]

Idk, but he should be confined

[dense steeple]

Youre right ive been in this discord longer than you've been ON discord

[lucid olive]

ffs man now i have that part of Without Me stuck in my head

[royal zenith]

tell him

[lofty depot]

[jaunty blaze]

That just means you're old

[dense steeple]

Thats on me, sorry king

[raw fox]

Not something to flex…

[dense steeple]

Wizened*

[raw fox]

I’m worried about my cortisol

You’re worried about cholesterol

We are NOT the same

[royal zenith]

yeah you should use a dollar sign as your first letter soma

[lime pasture]

is there anyone kind enough to help me with choosing a weekly from chest and going through sim with me? new to balance

[royal zenith]

that's way cooler than being in here for that long

[dense steeple]

Only thing I'm worried about is why I started the xpac at 400 fps in silvermoon and now i get 100 in silvermoon

[raw fox]

Stealing my swag ≠ understanding my swag

[lofty depot]

If u post the sim maybe someone could help u

[royal zenith]

just like how yeet is still going strong right

oh wait...

[sudden flame]

🥀

[royal zenith]

@csh

[lofty depot]

@paper

[raw fox]

It’s spelled yeat

Old man

[lime pasture]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vmLvGzanCqAFwcfJD8osWP

[royal zenith]

you're right

mb

[lofty depot]

No it's not

[royal zenith]

genuine mistake

[raw fox]

That’s what I’ve always admired about you

[lofty depot]

Question, so we're optimizing right

[raw fox]

You speak confidently and have no problems admitting you make mistakes

[lofty depot]

Like were top 1% type shit right?

[raw fox]

True alpha

[sudden flame]

the rapper is spelt yeat the word is spelt yeet smh

[lime pasture]

these are the already simmed things

[royal zenith]

🤝

[lofty depot]

We're like giga gear type shit right?

Like epitome of excellence type shit right?

Why are we not m+ bis week 5 ?

We not trying or

[raw fox]

Just help him with his sim man

[lucid olive]

trying = cringe

logging in and getting loot without trying = chad

[charred mango]

cosign

[lofty depot]

I am, but his sim is shit and I'm fixing it

Btw uhhhh

[lofty depot]

Ur not crafting a mh when ur looking to get off of staff

Ur crafting an oh

Ur preferred in taking a mh 289 cuz it's more stats

[lime pasture]

so just craft a of 285?

for now?

[willow thicket]

genuine question, should prob be asked on #feral but, anyone who plays both specs have any tips on getting used to / learning feral as a boomie player?

[red nymph]

do you have a 289 mh?

[lime pasture]

nope

i got 276

[lucid olive]

then a staff is a better upgrade

[raw fox]

Play the game

[lucid olive]

hit training dummies

queue for content

queue for pug raids in LFG even if you're saved

[raw fox]

If you’ve not played melee before you can watch some POV’s to see what people do to not lose uptime

[lime pasture]

i had shit in my vault today, no mh or anything

so you think staff?

[willow thicket]

i watched a few psybear videos yterday, I used to play windwalker before boomie

[lofty depot]

Melee players get lost in the always be casting part of it

[lofty depot]

Not having a mh isnt a problem.

That's why u craft staff

[willow thicket]

feral just never clicked for me before

[lofty depot]

So u don't have to worry about the best slot

[raw fox]

Practice makes perfect unfortunately

[lucid olive]

also the biggest difference between the specs is that Balance wants to fill every GCD, where casting the wrong spell is better compared to not casting a spell at all, but Feral can run into moments of forced downtime during rotation to wait for Energy etc

[raw fox]

No tricks to help you adjust

[willow thicket]

okay perfect, ig just a few more agi items and I can start trying it out

[lucid olive]

getting used to the downtime waiting for Energy etc was definitely the hardest thing for me to learn as Feral

[lime pasture]

these are my weapons rn

[lucid olive]

feels like you have to rewrire your brain after playing an uptime caster for years

bro crafted wrists

[raw fox]

For me it was not biting my monitor mid pull

Due to having to play feral

[lofty depot]

When I said have a mh, do u think I meant a stinky 276 item

[lucid olive]

👀

[lime pasture]

get it so its a staff then

ty

[charred mango]

I would recommend simming the voidstorm trinket against what you have on

[lofty depot]

The staff is 285, a 276 mh is beans in comparison

[lofty depot]

He did

[charred mango]

o

[willow thicket]

any clue what I can craft here?
my vault was 2 myth daggers and 1 shit ring (i went for currency for socket)

im lowkey lost

[charred mango]

mb I’m on mobile skimmed over it

[willow thicket]

feral trinkets angle

[lofty depot]

Yea pictures cringe

[lime pasture]

yea, its better, i was just testing stuff, i use it usually, i would have to upgrade with hero crest the other one to make it make sense

[raw fox]

Droptimizer sim for crafts

[royal zenith]

topgear..

[willow thicket]

droptimizer can sim crafts?????

[lofty depot]

Gloves prob

[raw fox]

Yeah

[lofty depot]

Go find some trinkets

[willow thicket]

ohh shit aight bet

[lofty depot]

Holy fuck

[charred mango]

yea enter the name and ilvl in the box below your crest count

[raw fox]

But what deux said

[willow thicket]

i been running trinket dungeons a bit bro, no luck

[lucid olive]

are those the named boots or arcanoweave ones

[charred mango]

and then you can add embels

[raw fox]

You can add crafted items to top gear sims

[willow thicket]

arcanoweave, it was my worst piece a couple weeks back

[lucid olive]

id craft hands

if you have all 5 pieces at least

[willow thicket]

oh set hands is haste vers, yea it makes sense

cheers man

[maiden pasture]

Don't do this 🙅‍♂️

Hitting dummies useless unless you know what to press and why

[lofty depot]

Also if ur not getting raid trinkets the others are beans but nonetheless

[lucid olive]

you're the dummy i'm training on

ofc you'll say that

[lofty depot]

If u haven't ran 20+ of Windrunner by now, he probably trolling

[maiden pasture]

What the helly

[willow thicket]

ill have to learn feral via shock therapy

just play with my group and get bullied until I learn

[lucid olive]

at least bloodtalons doesnt exist anymore so its not like its gonna be hard to learn

[lofty depot]

Ferals need shock therapy, trueeeeeee

Ferals get bullied regardless of them learning or not

[sudden flame]

[lofty depot]

It's their kink

[willow thicket]

why do ferals get bullied?

[lime pasture]

idk running around as a big fat bird or a furry cat, i got my side chosen

[willow thicket]

bird is cool dude it shoots stars and shit

[lofty depot]

U got 12 days?

[lime pasture]

yea

[willow thicket]

I got more than that

[lofty depot]

We're gonna be here a while

[willow thicket]

wtf did ferals do 😭

[lofty depot]

U see the voice channel called blood talon bar

[willow thicket]

I do sir

[lofty depot]

Do that math real quick

[willow thicket]

wtf

TWFG

WTF

[dense steeple]

Lmao

[lofty depot]

[lime pasture]

is this item any good on 289? or should i just stick with my 263 crucible and 276 feather
it doesnt want to sim

[willow thicket]

good lord

[dense steeple]

That channel is why im tryna get purple again

[willow thicket]

can I ask for feral help in here instead of over at #feral ?

I dont want to associate

[lofty depot]

Uhh no

[lucid olive]

wdym it doesnt want to sim

[lofty depot]

U can try

[lucid olive]

stop being weird

[charred mango]

he put it in the sim and the sim said no thank u

[lime pasture]

nothing i do changes this

[lofty depot]

Tribalism is going well

[willow thicket]

tribalism is human nature

[lucid olive]

increase your crests at the top

[charred mango]

click Max in the currency box up top

[lofty depot]

Get more crests silly

[lime pasture]

boys i am ahead of you

[dense steeple]

Quick ask me a feral question

[lucid olive]

then resolve item constraints

[willow thicket]

best cat skin?

[lime pasture]

thats what i dont understand, and i become silly

[charred mango]

are you forcing it to sim with another item also in vault

[lofty depot]

Click more trinkets or

[dense steeple]

Ask in #feral

[red nymph]

if youre not capable of deeper thinking and associating emotions

[dense steeple]

Gottem

[lucid olive]

Remember that any combination of items can only ever have 1 great vault item in them

[dense steeple]

The real answer is blue mage tower skin but i had to commit to the bit

[lucid olive]

If you have any slots there with only great vault items then you need to select another item in that slot

[lime pasture]

that makes sense, thank you @lucid olive

[willow thicket]

thats good, thinking too much makes you stressed

[charred mango]

you could always get a fresh simc loadout and just manually add your vault items so they aren’t flagged if you want to sim as if you could get two of them for future planning

but that’s not really useful rn

[sudden flame]

purple tower and blue and white balance of power easy

[red nymph]

does astral smolder add the remaining amount to the dot when you crit?

[lucid olive]

it updates constantly while active if thats what you mean

kind of like ignite for mage

[willow thicket]

are these still obtainable?

[sudden flame]

i can't believe they killed ferals ignite ability and gave it to balance.....

[sudden flame]

balance of power is tower forms arent

[lofty depot]

U can't believe that?

[lucid olive]

moonkin has had it since vault of incarnates

[lofty depot]

Cuz I sure can 🙂

[dense steeple]

Balance of power is

[willow thicket]

oh dude igotta use the owlcat

to represent boomie

[red nymph]

exactly what i mean. i couldnt think of any word other than compounding, and i didnt know if that was the right term

[lofty depot]

I mean, many boomkins use glyph of stars :/

Actually funny note, we had a new healer for paladins and he's the one that has to run out to the other soak if he has it and.... And he often didn't know where that other soak went, so he used my fire chicken form as reference lol

[royal zenith]

lol that's so funny

[lofty depot]

Fuck u bud

[red nymph]

me, until i got fire chicken mog

[royal zenith]

🥹

[ocean oriole]

As a new boomkin player(since feral failed me) does anyone have any tips or auras to monitor eclipse and such?

[lofty depot]

I take that back, that wasn't noce

[lofty depot]

Auras to monitor eclipse....

U can do that in the cdm

Just add it yea

[ocean oriole]

Ok I’ll add it, I haven’t been using the CDM at all lol

[lofty depot]

U can also, copy gamz cdm from the resources tab

[lofty depot]

Well that's probably not smart

[ocean oriole]

Yea I know. I swapped over mid raid because I just wasn’t keeping up as feral. I added 40k just swapping

I figured since I did well in raid I would start doing keys. And I was on par with feral but the pallies are still killing me

[charred mango]

throw something shiny on the ground it will distract the ret paladins long enough to beat them

[willow thicket]

gamz cdm is great

[fiery kindle]

🥶

[honest musk]

I am thinking of opening vault as boomkin. I already have 285 weapon as bear, might as well fish for boomkin weapon which I play on raids, right?

Also trinkets are bad for feral as far as I remember.

[charred mango]

puzzbox pgud

[honest musk]

i have heroic version

[charred mango]

ok so “already have the good trinket” not “trinkets are bad” 😛

[honest musk]

yeah you're right

do i just grab myth chest and cata it?

[charred mango]

but uh yeah if you raid as balance then fire away vault as balance

[lofty depot]

Yea prob

[charred mango]

chest most likely biggest uppy depending on what you have ya

that belt is vgood but also a low stat slot etc

[lilac citrus]

how good is a feather for balance ? its either feather or a M tier might be awhile before i can get Vaekgir's final stare as im not raiding for atleast 5 weeks due to holiday and work

[lofty depot]

Holiday.....

[charred mango]

feelycraft tells me it’s better in dungeons than raids

[lofty depot]

What holiday in March hm

Idk, trinket kinda beans

[oblique shard]

Question - if we have a crafted weapon, do we always want 1 Hunt, 1 Arcanoweave Lining - will there ever be a time to have 2 Arcanoweave Lining

[normal pilot]

feather's good at max ilevel. it's bugged so it drops off faster at lower ilevels

[oblique shard]

Also, is it a good idea to craft a neck over bracers, since the neck we want is from Midnight Falls and there isn't a great dungeon option?

[tranquil vault]

the one from the pvp quests is an oke one i think?

[lofty depot]

Theres a time yes, but that also requires u to craft off pieces that are maybe worse than upgrading chest, legs, helm slots

Eventually I will craft it tho

[lofty depot]

Pit one is better for me

People still assume mastery haste is their best stat

[normal pilot]

yo stealth balance 12.0.5 buff meteorites works with boat

[lofty depot]

Holy

Big stonks

[honest musk]

can you have 3 embellishments? 1 weapon 2 other slots

[tranquil vault]

nope

only 2 embellishments

[lucid olive]

man is freaking me out linking picture of the feral or guardian guide

thought the staff item IDs changed overnight or something

[honest musk]

oh lol yeah it is guardian 😄

didn't notice i was in balance channel haha

[lucid olive]

mine looks better

[honest musk]

so the third craft I use no embellishments, right?

[lucid olive]

if you already have 2 yes

[red nymph]

if you can rip a 3rd i highly advise it

[honest musk]

this is kinda awkward coz i have weapon and bracers on bear

if i want 2nd embellishment on boomkin i wont be able to use it on bear

[maiden pasture]

You can always remove the embellishment from your weapon

And have 2 embellished armour pieces

That you can use for both

[leaden matrix]

is there anywhere that has a talent tree per boss somewhere?

or is it more or less to look up logs and copy builds for that lol

i know the first three bosses is probably just generic st with some aoe, i figure dragons and paladin is pure cleave

[maiden pasture]

There isn't no, gamz lost the passion to make boss recommendations

[lofty depot]

Just look at logs

[red nymph]

WCL archon and just look at the top 100 talent build. copy

[leaden matrix]

cheers

[exotic perch]

You can just see the top 100 on wcl thats the best

[ancient drift]

do you lovely people reckon it would be better to go this weapon than to go for the shoulder? I've simmed and it said to pick the shoulder, which i just feel would be a waste of a slot. If this is the wrong chat i apologize:)

[exotic perch]

Archon i wouldnt say to use lol

[leaden matrix]

we have too many healers so im forced to boomkin with our heroic friendraids

[gaunt ruin]

what's the best race for balance now? nightelf?

[leaden matrix]

so just vibing through the raid at this point

[lofty depot]

Why would upgrading a tier slot be a waste

[red nymph]

what do you mean? it gives you a heat map of the talents of the top 100 parses

[exotic perch]

If you raid mythic then id take the staff honestly

[red nymph]

why would that be a bad thing?

[exotic perch]

Cause archon as a whole is a privacy nightmare

[ancient drift]

as my guild already kills mythic salhadar

[lofty depot]

U have a mythic weapon already, tbag staff isn't your best weapon at 289 either

[red nymph]

huh

[exotic perch]

More like malwarearchon

[lofty depot]

Me when I wait 6 weeks for the token to drop

[dense steeple]

We play wow

Blizzard just leaked over 600 emails during awc

[exotic perch]

I still remember when an archon dev came in here and horribly failed to justify their whole app

[dense steeple]

CC everyone instead of BCC

[lofty depot]

Hold ur vault til if u want. That staff shouldn't involve any sort of feeling of good tho

[red nymph]

idk having a heatmap of the top 100 logs and turning that into a heat map for talents is pretty justifiable

[sudden flame]

archon makes up data then steals yours

[lofty depot]

Seems like a good business model

[gaunt ruin]

.

[lofty depot]

Meld is good for m+

[sleek trellis]

if i didn't get better gear from the vault do i just take the merit?

[oblique shard]

Well my options is to either

1. craft a 285 neck (best in sim, but doesn't take into account the embellishments)
2. craft 285 wrist/belt/boots with no embellishments and keep Hunt on my weapon
3. or craft craft 285 wrist/belt/boots with Arcanoweaving and take the Hunt embellishments of my weapon

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cYKLU9LSmdLxKTGpxFX2Tt

[red nymph]

vibez

[lofty depot]

U also don't have a good neck

So we're not comparing the best m+ neck to said crafted

But it might be better surr

[lucid olive]

Sim with top gear to add embellishments

[vast oar]

hey guuys, What is the best stat distribution for Haste and Mastery?

[lucid olive]

lots of mastery

some crit

some haste

no vers

[vast oar]

how much haste?

wouldnt versa be good for m+, so just a bit of it?

[lucid olive]

vers bad

nobody purposefully puts on less dmg in order to have more vers

[granite moat]

not even tanks are grabing versa

its that bad

[exotic perch]

remove vers give back multistrike

jk vers just needs to do something better

[pliant tiger]

what are we crafting after staff? Hands like wovhead suggests?

[dense steeple]

Shouldve crafted hands 2 weeks ago, the question should be what are we crafting 3rd

[exotic perch]

damn i crafted bracers

then boots

so its just w/e you have in a low spot

[dense steeple]

^

Everyone is different

Sim it

[pliant tiger]

yeah ill sim

[river galleon]

the fuck? How is it possible to have same tier set on myth track in vault without third stat?

[lucid olive]

what?

[granite moat]

actually versa has one use

i have a tank friend full versa, he is great for my logs

all his parses go grey and make mine orange lol

[exotic perch]

based tank

[drifting nova]

only thing we'l ever agree on

[dapper cloak]

So I have a question about raid spec - I noticed most recommended raid specs don't run convoke - How should I ideally play the recommended spec? just pop cooldown when I would pop convoke normally? (at pull/bl/combat potion) etc?

if anyone has a guide for the currently most common recommended raid specs I'd appreciate it

[exotic perch]

https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium

got descriptions of the talents there

[charred mango]

vault doesn't avoid giving you items you already have

[lucid olive]

nah i removed that section i think

cba updating it

[exotic perch]

nah you got the part talking about convoke still

[tulip snow]

don't the talents already have descriptions?

[lucid olive]

this is still there i guess yeah

idk if thats updated tho

[exotic perch]

yea i cba to even play the convoke build anyway

love spamming big incarn cds

[tulip snow]

more spend == more fun

[exotic perch]

and more procs please

getting a chain in incarn is great

[hollow sandal]

do you guys go EC on any fights? if so, which ones?

[tulip snow]

paladins, but I don't like it

[exotic perch]

thats cause paladins sucks for everyone who isnt a mm hunter

all specs hate it

[hollow sandal]

alright cool. do you go for Aetherial Kindling on dragons?

[exotic perch]

its nice now since you can 2T starfall the entire time yea

could go meteor if you really wanna pad on the small adds tho

[tulip snow]

I padded that fight so hard lmao

[silver flume]

how do you pop your shrooms in aoe? all together for big burst or what?

[fickle pier]

Well you only use shrooms on dragons, and no

You spread them out else you run out of charges

[silver flume]

people are using shrooms on chime and pala too

[dapper cloak]

❤️

[fickle pier]

Yeah, people do wrong things all the time

[pallid bay]

thats me

[fickle pier]

Would be wasting the dot if you just did them back to back

And paladins isnt a burst fight

So idk why you'd do that

[silver flume]

ye lets say for small aoe padding you just throw them?

[royal zenith]

they play passive shrooms on paladins

[pallid bay]

surely the dot still ignites

did they change that

[fickle pier]

Idk, talent hasnt been used since tindral

Cba to look at math stuff

[pallid bay]

so we're just lying..

[fickle pier]

Not really. You'd only use them on dragons for orb damage imo

[ruby badger]

think the AP gen is the big thing about manual mushrooms

not necessarily the dam they do

[fickle pier]

It is

[dapper cloak]

So basiclly most fights this seasons has so many adds and aoe focus choses on elune is preferred, and you just pop CDs to do add dmg?

[fickle pier]

Well they do like 12% of your overall on dragons if you pad the orbs

[royal zenith]

actually there's only like 2 peeps who play shrooms on paladins

[dapper cloak]

is that the gist of it?

[fickle pier]

No, you only use elunes on paladins

Its keeper every other fight

[royal zenith]

no idea how you came to that conclusion

if everyone plays kotg on most of the fights

[fickle pier]

Yeah, just super wrong lol

[pallid bay]

elunes is a very flat dmg profile

[dapper cloak]

I mean incarnation

no

KotG but NOT convoke

is what I mean

[fickle pier]

Convoke is a patchwerk talent, so you only use it on bird

[royal zenith]

ah incarn is what you meant

they really need to do something about these talent names

[dapper cloak]

yeah, incarnation chosen of elune haha

[ruby badger]

You'll do more dam with incarn in a lot of cases but you can pick convoke if your raid team is able to take care of any adds easily and you just wanna do more boss dam / burst

or just whatever you feel in general, plenty of both in the top parses on any given fight

except LBV

[dapper cloak]

I mean the main reason I started thinking a lot about it is because I'm finind the crown of cosmus pull very annoying with covoke, and also all the adds

[royal zenith]

I think picking convoke for that reason is cope

[dapper cloak]

all I need is just a litlle pointer of how to play that as I've been playing convoke for a long time now

[royal zenith]

it's really only good in pure ST

[dapper cloak]

I know

[fickle pier]

Convoke is a patchwerk talent

[royal zenith]

any add involved? ggs

[fickle pier]

Dont take it except for bird

[dapper cloak]

I just looked at all the top players and they are NOT using convoke so

[fickle pier]

Yeah

That is correct

[exotic perch]

ye p sure you only take convoke for beloren

[fickle pier]

Its not very strong, its only better than incarn on bird

[exotic perch]

to slam that egg damage

[dapper cloak]

But I pop CD's on pull or for incarnation or when

just trying to figure out the rythm

[fickle pier]

Lorrgs.io

[ruby badger]

It's the same as convoke

[dapper cloak]

alright

[ruby badger]

except you just don't press convoke

[dapper cloak]

thanks, that's all I want to know 😄

love you all ❤️

[marsh drum]

Is there any time you ignore free Starsurge/Starfall procs?

[gaunt ruin]

@lucid olive are you playing with all stats around the same amount?

[red nymph]

ooo the one boss .7 boss will be flex mythic as well

[grim crater]

Not really

They proc shooting stars

[pseudo zodiac]

is the Starfall dmg buff out yet?

[grim crater]

As well as stellar amp

[red nymph]

the first or the second? yes to both

[grim crater]

Buffs?

Has there been a second buff to starfall after the big druid update?

[pseudo zodiac]

16% buff i heared some time ago

[grim crater]

Oh well yeah that happened already

[red nymph]

i guess the first was just overall buff. the second was more focused on starfall

[grim crater]

Is it recommended to spread stellar amplification on to different targets or is worth more to stack the cds on to one target in aoe?

[red nymph]

Probably not a damage loss to spread the buff but if it requires an extra train of thought, fuck it

and probably only worth if using AK

[lofty depot]

Sometime ago would be correct

[lofty depot]

There are times but those are some minmax parsey things that I would say u shouldn't necessarily worry about until u understand why u would hold

[ashen plank]

hello everyone, just a quick one, is it worth using the 2 rings from NexusPoint for the set bonus, or should I go with something like the Bifurcation Band from Magisters?

[charred mango]

set bonus is pretty good but ilvl of the rings matters too (in other words ask the robot)

[lofty depot]

Mmhm mmhm

[charred mango]

also crit is good so don’t discount the AA or Belo rings as options

[lofty depot]

I will be discounting them

[charred mango]

don’t do it!

[ashen plank]

got it, thank you so much!

[lofty depot]

Who's chat is that in

[red nymph]

max

[lofty depot]

I'm pretty sure those were supposed to be boomkin buffs what the helly

[red nymph]

just a typo

[jaunty blaze]

we need them 😩

[normal pilot]

balance is perfect

[willow thicket]

Guys, which specs in m+ do the most single target damage?

[wind ledge]

not balance

[fickle pier]

The rings have generally mid secondary stats (haste) and so will probably be worse than two crit/mastery rings of equal ilvl

The cantrip is pretty weak on them

[fickle pier]

Unholy maybe idk

[ashen plank]

thank you!!!

[fickle pier]

Sim it though is the real answer

[lofty depot]

Unholy might be correct, boomkin is pretty high up there tho

[wind ledge]

guys i just talked to my dad at blizzard. he said they are going to fix boomkin in next expansion

but not feral

[lofty depot]

Who

[teal pike]

just talked to my cousin who works in the coffeeshop in front of blizzard headquarters and they're buffing boomie 8% next reset

[wheat crown]

saw this and got happy... till i noticed resto only

[devout agate]

are the paladins bugged in voidspire? 🙂

[lofty depot]

What part

[devout agate]

when they spawn

[dreamy cove]

they bubble when you lust, need dispels

[lofty depot]

Can u use ur words or

[devout agate]

before you pull them

they're not appearing and killing all the adds

the encounter is not triggered

[dreamy cove]

happened to us, we had everyone go out and come back in I think

it's when someone takes the shortcut? portal to where dragons were I think

[devout agate]

idk, we just did drakes and when we pushed palas, none appeared

[lofty depot]

Well those are ideas pre raid. You then have 4 weeks of logs to determine what builds are the best

And while those 4 weeks happen, the build then changes cuz you gained 30+ ilvls and now vorasius fake

If ur lazy then idk why ur not looking at warcraftlogs to see what people are running

Lazy doesn't mean incompetent

[cloud lion]

any fix to see paladins?

They are not spawning

[drifting nova]

too busy helping guilds kill dragons

[royal zenith]

Im a bit in a split, the NPC's did kill dragons

but kekkers is also an NPC

hmm..

[drifting nova]

I wouldnt die in that raid group

trust

I pamp

[random pasture]

#showtooltip Celestial Alignment
/use Fleeting Light's Potential
/use Light's Potential
/use 14
/use 13
/cast Incarnation: Chosen of Elune
/cast Celestial Alignment
Can anyone tell me why this macro don't use the pot?

[drifting nova]

which pot

[lofty depot]

1. I find it funny people still macro like this
2. U don't need both of those /casts in there, u onto need celestial alignment

3. Do u have this pots in your inventory lol

#showtooltip
/use 13
/use 14
/cast [@cursor] Celestial Alignment

[heavy iris]

is vorasius not giving boomies all star points?

[meager storm]

looks like it

[heavy iris]

so weird lol

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova leagues is IM only?

[drifting nova]

ye

and I already regret one of my choices

[fair pasture]

anyone mushroom padding on dragons wanna link their talent tree thx

[heavy iris]

CYGA8cL7tpvige+kkmGM9zUPWDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWoMbNjxMD8AmlZmZmhBDz2MLjtZMjNWmZZMzMsgBADwy2YDTzMLjAAAAsZmZmZwmxwYGAzMAwA

[lofty depot]

Can look at the warcraft logs talents

[dense steeple]

anyone mushroom padding on dragons wanna link their talent tree get shot thx

[fair pasture]

[meager storm]

ngl this tft patch is kinda eh, but then I saw meeples

we will be forcing it every match

[lofty depot]

I have t decided what game I play now

Friend said he want to push, but then say after prog.... Which is like 1 month from now :/

[red nymph]

pretty sure its this, maybe with rattle

[charred mango]

I played two games of the set

7 1 didn’t have fun in either

give carousel back

[cobalt junco]

drop umbral for stellar amp

or am i wrong?

[red nymph]

could but youre just slamming starfall. trust, if youre running this degenerate shit, youre not worried about dragon damage

[meager storm]

nah u definitely run stellar amp over umbral

[red nymph]

could

[meager storm]

its more dmg

[red nymph]

then do

[lofty depot]

I still play weaver

[cobalt junco]

same

we just spent 2 and half hours on reprogging dragons, im so tilted

[royal zenith]

[lofty depot]

What the helly

[royal zenith]

reprogging is a good time to pad even more

proud of you guys

[honest musk]

Could anyone please have a look at this log?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/MW7gYwqKrRA9xFc6?fight=last&type=damage-done
Maybe some obvious mistakes. One thing I notice is I overcap AP a lot.

[dense steeple]

yeah were reprogging it too sadge

[fiery kindle]

me too

hate it

[royal zenith]

Its kinda annoying to review m+ logs

press foe before eclipse/incarn tho

[fiery kindle]

myth salha

i love this boss

[cobalt junco]

bearing in mind we have killed it twice already -_-

[honest musk]

okay, that's an advice, i'll take it 😄

[royal zenith]

just seems you're not casting to spend most of the time, if I look at your timeline

or vice versa, just spending and not casting to generate asp again

also seems like you're holding your eclipse charges for way too long

[lucid olive]

yeah waited until a minute in to press lunar

you can do like incarn -> lunar -> incarn

or like lunar while dotting -> incarn -> lunar

[royal zenith]

abuse the instant cast starfire for movement

[stone ledge]

Must be nice having the small adds live more then 1 global

[fiery kindle]

raid group need this aoe dmg

[red nymph]

they should live at least 3 right, before they all group up completely?

[fiery kindle]

also

[lofty depot]

Blud not even padding hard

[split trail]

is meteor storm too far behind aetherial kindling?

[honest rapids]

I read something pre-launch that I feel is wrong now that I'm going into my 3rd week or progression. Do I cast Elclipse 1 global before incarnation or use it after incarnation as a fill between?

[royal zenith]

they're different type of talents

[split trail]

what does that mean

[main phoenix]

Maybe its a stupid question. But why does Cane sim 0,1% better than Magister + off hand?

[royal zenith]

I mean, did you read what the talents do

they're used in different situations

AK is good for spread cleave and sustained AOE

Meteor storm good if you need starfall to do more damage in a shorter amount of time?

[split trail]

yeah but in a m+ scenario you cannot swap talents so you have to stick to one. surely some people tested out metor storm over the default AK to have a verdict on whether it works or not. the reason why I am considering it is because packs don't last more than 10 seconds in my usual premade group.

[royal zenith]

It would be kinda more efficient if you actual state the scenario you're thinking about, ahead of time, for le future

in this case you can also just sim both talents in a 6T situation with short duration

in general you play AK for M+

[royal zenith]

can link the sim so people can have a look

[main phoenix]

sure https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gxK7KxzNw2qbJFhwppF7hz

[pseudo merlin]

@drifting nova lock the fuck in buddy

[drifting nova]

take this hally, slowpoke

[craggy sonnet]

It's just sim variance I guess?

[royal zenith]

IT's just a sidegrade, basically

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t33dbzjkPVUvgf7sTtjmyq

[craggy sonnet]

That's what the blue line next to the top two results indicates

[craggy sonnet]

If you run it again, it might come out differently

[normal pilot]

sidegrade means all those items are the same dps

[main phoenix]

I did the error of thinking the Cane is suboptimal, since I will be mythic raiding. My life didnt really let me raid, so I stuck w offhand. Now I can either craft the cane, or the Magister's knife and wait for a proper myth 1H later, while also craft a ring or neck.

Thanks a lot!!!

[red nymph]

youre welcome

[main phoenix]

I didn't really know sidegrade exists 😄

although I've been simming since SL

[craggy sonnet]

If you already have the offhand. There is no reason to craft 2h now

Just wastes an additional spark

[main phoenix]

yepp

Thank you guys!

[pseudo merlin]

lets go buddyy

[main phoenix]

You saved my gaming experience

[drifting nova]

I severely regret going 2h early..theres no weps

[pseudo merlin]

dont care im an ar cher

im banging with my crossbow

[drifting nova]

not even a real build til nox

[tender elbow]

mythic reclear today. feelsbad

the 100 is technically rank 2 on paladins but damn

[pseudo merlin]

Look at that, even my talent tree is flexing

[lofty depot]

Is that his healing parse

[tender elbow]

damage parse kek

mine

[fickle pier]

40th percentile mm hunter equivalent btw

[atomic robin]

Hi I'm new here and i was wonder if there was a place i could ask questions about balance and working on a rotation? I've been looking up videos and websites but can't really fine anything other then "cooldowns in incarnate" "have eclipse up as much as possible"

[pseudo merlin]

check out the compendium in the pins, that's the main source you should be using . Steer clear from youtube videos

you can ask all your questions here

[atomic robin]

I've been looking at the logs of our raids and i parc between 40-65 depending on the day and im 274 rn and i just dont know what im doing wrong.

parc'ing like 9 for ilvl apparently as well

[pseudo merlin]

just post a log and tag @lofty depot

[atomic robin]

i dont want to be the best but i want to be better then that though you know? lol

[pseudo merlin]

for sure

[fiery kindle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/guxNZGdRhCPoQhH4QVqtaF
🥶

[pseudo merlin]

definitely make sure you have read the compendium before you ask queustions that might already be answered there tho

[atomic robin]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/aPfZ1GDv2z7wcJrh @lofty depot im tealiani

[pseudo merlin]

because im not sure which websites you've been looking at, there's some heinous ones out there

what im seeing real quick is wrong opener, dps potion randomly pressed, a lot of cancelled casts, gaps where you're not doing anything

overcapping asp

[lucid olive]

build AP before using cooldowns, and use Force of Nature first and then press CA/Incarnation right as the GCD ends before using 2 Starfall/Starsurge spenders

in your cooldowns there you used them at like 0 AP and then pressed Wrath forever

also waited 2 seconds between using treants and your instant wrath cast

you also keep using Fury of Elune at like 30-40 seconds in

[leaden birch]

who I gotta pay for a vaelgor's stare

[lucid olive]

I would go read either of the guides linked in pinned messages

[leaden birch]

shits so annoying to try and get without a guild

[lucid olive]

dragons is puggable isnt it

[leaden birch]

its not the pugging

it's winning the roll

[lucid olive]

bonus rolls next week or something

[pseudo merlin]

you might be able to pug dragons

[leaden birch]

I wonder if I can bonus roll multiple times or only once a week per boss

[pseudo merlin]

but youre not getting past aversian

once per week bud

[leaden birch]

pug dwagons mythic?

[pseudo merlin]

but you only get 1 per week anyway

[leaden birch]

I dunno if I want that pain

I thought it was 2

[pseudo merlin]

no

2 m+ rolls

1 raid

rolling raid is troll

[leaden birch]

🤮

at least they separated them which is kinda nice

good guy blizz

[lucid olive]

my favorite thing about silvermoon is finding one of these spots

can just be stuck there

perpetual motion

[meager storm]

also if u stand here and look at a specific angle it completely deletes the walls

[pseudo merlin]

Both of you need help

[rough flax]

How much time of the current expansion did you already spent in running around in silvermoon

[lucid olive]

enough

time on beta as well

important distinction

ive been flying around silvermoon since november ish

[lucid olive]

lmao thats crazy

[drifting nova]

yeah but can you dc yourself on that tree?

[dense steeple]

how you gonna tell me its gone man

whats the point of living if i cant get an XL pizza for half the price of a large pizza

[drifting nova]

who only gets a pepperoni wtf

[dense steeple]

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[bold night]

hi all ! new to balance, is there a way to diminish the visual effect of starfall ? its making me bug hard

[edgy quarry]

Hi guys !

We are currently trying to kill Lightblinded Vanguard Mythic, and sometimes I'm being silence 5s random by this speel from Seen ! Can I do something ? I'm not even on him.. I totally don't understand 🥲

Thanks by advance !

[dense steeple]

microcenter

[dense steeple]

dont starfall when she casts it

[compact musk]

Is it normal for Regrowth to start feeling weaker and weaker as you level Balance Druid?

[edgy quarry]

But I'm always doing starfall xD

And it has my dots

[bold night]

what do you mean ?

[dense steeple]

yeah theres not much you can do about the dots, but you can def avoid procing it from starfall

[dense steeple]

so if you go to microcenter, you can buy crazy good pc parts

[pallid bay]

light of elune procs a fury of elune from your moonfire

which just spam silences you

pick the other talent

[edgy quarry]

hahun...

[edgy quarry]

Cause it's not 100% ? ok ok i see :/

[meager storm]

[dense steeple]

should probably do what oi said to do

[lucid olive]

one of these days my training dummies will have a health bar and hitbox

i cant wait

[dark siren]

You should be able to turn spell effects down in your settings. May to play around with them to find the sweet spot

[edgy quarry]

Everyone play Elune chosen :x

[dense steeple]

yes

[fringe plover]

This sim I scrambled together is the best I could come up with for endgame and yet it feels so flawed, especially in regards to the main hand and back. Any idea why that is?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xaXiEY9f5wnH3X5g4izNmr

And yes I tried more hasty options, raw DPS was always lower.

[fickle pier]

The only other main hand from raid is big haste which is probably bad. Crit is very good right now

[fringe plover]

yeah it's the Dagger from Belo'ren, but it comes short.(badumtss)

[fickle pier]

Im surprised the ring combo would be bis, its worse than other rings (mastery/crit) for my character

[fringe plover]

I tried it with the platinum star band, but gets overshadowed by the set. Tried the best items from 5 guides in various combinations tho ^^'

[lucid olive]

but is it useful information

[lofty depot]

surely mushrooms procs silence too

[lucid olive]

your sim looks fine tho

[lofty depot]

u didnt answer gamz, but assumption is ur not sure what ur doing wrong but havent read the guides on what youre supposed to be casting

what the helly

[fringe plover]

wanted to figure that out, since my guild is Working with a BiS list addon, and two of those guides were written by you with different BiS lists xP so I tried to gather as much information and useful items as I could

[lucid olive]

gg

[spice roost]

lol

[edgy quarry]

seem to be fury of elune proc

[lofty depot]

i jsut turned it all off but ye

[lucid olive]

yea that is what Oi told you like 20+ minutes ago

[lofty depot]

u can also hit it with a lunar bolt if ur close

[lucid olive]

it also silences from Halo for priests

[lofty depot]

not anymore

they fix that

[lucid olive]

gg

i suppose OB can silence too

not sure i never tried

[desert imp]

Hi guys, can anyone have a look at my logs for Mythic Imperator, Vorasius and Chima kills and help me find issues so that i can improve?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/60127330

[edgy quarry]

Yep i know ! But i can"t change this talent x) and thanks @pallid bay for his answer btw 🙂

[lucid olive]

yes you can

just take astral insight instead

thats what everyone else is playing

i guess 15% just lived on the edge actually

[edgy quarry]

OMG

I'm so dumb

i feel so dumb right now I was confuse and understand the wrong thing !!

[lofty depot]

seems odd ur first globals arent surge

[pallid bay]

🥀

[lofty depot]

ur doing this fun new player thing where u build to full and dump to empty

[edgy quarry]

so so sorry @pallid bay

[lofty depot]

its in ur cds so its not the worst thing... but when ur outside of it in eclispe and or outside of it... this will become problematic with movement

ur dotting first globas of incarn

also highkey... sat on wildmushroom charges for a full minute

see the difference

(i forgot to pot opener ignore my idiocy)

[desert imp]

sorry is this my log or still the last person?

[lofty depot]

urs'

[lofty depot]

but this is mine

[desert imp]

ok noted, i guess i was just saving the mush for adds

[lofty depot]

well i know that

but u not understandign what the button does

it recharges in 30 seconds

meaning u can press it twice prior to those adds spawnning

[desert imp]

oh gotcha, so wasting charges atm

[lofty depot]

then ur eclipse after incarn youre doing negative damage

[edgy quarry]

thank you and sorry...

[lofty depot]

this nexrt set better

[desert imp]

sorry can you explain more on this? wdym

[lofty depot]

kinda dotting for fun at the end of incanr

[lofty depot]

u pressed 3 surges in 15 seconds

[desert imp]

gotcha

[lofty depot]

same here after your incarn there

need to see something

[desert imp]

so the fix is in carn it should be just pump and dump on main target and dot everything before that?

[lofty depot]

yea idk either im the goat or u have negative procs

[desert imp]

i did notice my free procs were not that good last night

[vital hound]

@lofty depot are you logged in

[lofty depot]

ur cosmosing surges

[lofty depot]

no wy

[vital hound]

need starfire cast time

[lofty depot]

how blud get 1 minute of no cosmos procs

[lofty depot]

uhh 1.8s surely

[vital hound]

need the funny number

[lofty depot]

uhh

[vital hound]

if someone is logged in and can help

[lofty depot]

one sec

[vital hound]

bigger is better

thanks