balance

[vital hound]

fun good for dps

[ivory osprey]

noo its not necessary, I am looking for opinions about the way this spec feels right now, not just dps but the design itself.
I can improve analyzing my own log, actually I learn way better like this, but I appreciate!

[calm bough]

Is this correct or should I tweak something

[fair pasture]

But if it only feels a certain way because of doing something wrong then it's not an accurate assessment also boomkin #1

[lofty depot]

ever heard the phrase, u dont know what u dont know

[pseudo merlin]

time for a d20

[lofty depot]

sundered firm yucky

[pseudo merlin]

if above 16 you do it anyway

[lofty depot]

hmm

rats

[pseudo merlin]

fuck i said above

shoulda said 16 or above

[true viper]

does beam fuck up the kicks on lura

on mythic

[vital hound]

OH

wrong boss

[grim crater]

How much mastery should I be at having most of the bis gear slots?

Im assuming anything above 30% in boomy form

[lofty depot]

thats not really what u should be looking at

theres not a "should" have number

think i have around 900

[grim crater]

Ah

[lofty depot]

but u dont and i dont have bis gear

even "most" is a stretch

u might have most of the m+ bis heroic gear

but theres some more coniditons to that

[ionic oak]

i only have 1066. wiggity wack

[grim crater]

Dude I honestly feel like im not getting better. Falling behind in m+ in dmg at least 30k behind and i cannot figure out why

[lofty depot]

post a log

[grim crater]

My rotations aren't perfect, but I don't think they need to be perfect to the point where im that behind

[lofty depot]

well theres perfect and theres wrong right

[grim crater]

Didn't record one recently. I could get my best m+ but even that was a couple of days ago

But today I ran a couple and am really lacking the ramp up in dmg

[lofty depot]

well i want u to post a new one from not 3 days ago

because we went over this 3 days ago

and i want to see a new one

[grim crater]

Yeah Ill go for it tomorrow and hit you up

Ill do a quick m+ with the boys and record logs

[keen warren]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6qGjpWVzf2BNDcx4?fight=18&type=damage-done

good morning, can someone review my voidspire logs. I am struggling and I’m not entirely sure why. M+ I’m good but raid I am usually 10th-14th in damage. My characters name is Kryptonek.

And should 80+ parse be something i should be able to reach consistently or im just bad?

[delicate perch]

what are we doin here

[keen warren]

Yeah, I will cancel a wrath or especially a starfire if I capped on AP. Working on that and probably what that is.

[delicate perch]

85% means just a bit of literally nothing, including the cancelled casts

arctic will probs go more in depth but seems like a good place to start

lot of wasted ap too

[keen warren]

Okay, wasn’t sure if it accounts for mechanics. Like moving the fear breath or getting in the gloom

But maybe those are miniscule

[delicate perch]

it wouldn't no and obviously you can just get overloaded with mechanics on some fights, but I don't think any fight has that many mechanics

that's more where planning ahead incase you get it and be in a position to just wild charge out instead of having to cat form sprint to make it out etc

all adds up

[keen warren]

Good point, and when in encarn and CA, seems like guides say to just spend for the 3 empowered spender procs and keep wrathinf unless near cap or a free proc. But I feel like dumping at the beginning of CA and eclipse provide a lot of damage. I’m doing something way wrong because I have a fellow Druid in there keeping up with me in damage most fights and he’s 10 ilvls lower

[lofty depot]

well ur playing terrible talents

convoke on dragons

and 1m convoke at tha

this build is disgusting

fix it

ur doing the opener wrong for it as well

didnt dot both

trees prior to ca

soooo ca lasts 12 seconds... so at 15 those surges are likely out of ca

why are we also dumping asp outside of eclipse

[keen warren]

Okay got it, wrong talents for boss or wrong talents for entire raid generally?

[lofty depot]

idk why were sending starfire in solar

[lofty depot]

1. if u dont know what talens to run, just look at logs for the boss
2. we havent ran 1m convoke ever let alone in the current raid with negative ST and on a boss that has actually 2 targets

[keen warren]

Okay thanks! I thought I’d copied it from Wowhead but that’s a good idea to look at logs of others

[lofty depot]

this is better sequence, but rather if theres adds out u wanted to be preping starfalls into it

ur also sunfiring in ca which is bad

[lofty depot]

theres no talents for specific bosses on wowhead

so ur taking ideas for talents and not practical talents

also i havent said it, but ur spending on surges

and you should be spending on starfall

in which case ur not talented into kindling

[keen warren]

Spending on star falls when? For the free procs ?

[lofty depot]

is this the "i have a breathe" part of that

[lofty depot]

no

[shy knot]

At this stage at heroic wouldn't meteor storm be better than kindling?

[lofty depot]

on 2 targets u press starfall

[keen warren]

Okay, so for the entire fight I dot both bosses and spend starfall

[lofty depot]

yes but that wasnt the point

i want him to understand u should be casting starfall

also.. those heroic adds die in .5 seconds

[shy knot]

Ye I just wanted to learn something for myself 😛

[lofty depot]

is w.e.

[lofty depot]

yes

also i want to make sure u acknowledge this... stop starfiring in solar

[royal zenith]

Acknowledge it or you will be sued

[keen warren]

Understood, I think I probably went into solar eclipses when those little adds spawned.

[lofty depot]

mmhm mmhm

that doesnt matter

u dont go into lunar in any fights in the raid

u dont cast starfire in solar

[sharp cairn]

@lofty depot How do you find the time sequence of what people cast? My parses are horrible so id like to look at better players.

[lofty depot]

hm

[sharp cairn]

Tyvm

[keen warren]

So even in the paladin fight I stay in solar eclipse and wrath but spend with starfall

[lofty depot]

well thats the exception

but ur playing EC on that fight so

well i should say 99.999999999% of people

the 0.000000001% are playing convoke 1m and doing no looking at logs

[keen warren]

Okay got it!

1. Use right talents
2. Generally never enter lunar or use starfall.
3. Use right opener
4. Work on cancels and abc

[lofty depot]

i need to look at voras first

[shy knot]

Starfire*

[lofty depot]

cuz dragons doesnt help u

[keen warren]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/6qGjpWVzf2BNDcx4?fight=10&type=damage-done&source=20

[lofty depot]

lol u can click the tab at the top and move fights

[jaunty blaze]

That's rough

[lofty depot]

this is next level opener

u wouldnt understand

[jaunty blaze]

😭

[keen warren]

Yikes did I double tap encarn there?

[lofty depot]

no u double tapped incarn

u also didnt dot before it

[keen warren]

lol, feels bad. Didn’t remember that

[lofty depot]

riveting gameplay

[keen warren]

Cancels, starfire and starfall. Probably adds but now I know it’s bad

[lofty depot]

this is a natty casted starfall

which isnt done on st

however when playing starweaver, u wouldve casted starfall on that touch of cosmos proc

sending convoke outside of eclipse let alone incarn

[keen warren]

Okay, I didn’t realize how terrible I am doing the rotation. Ton of mistakes

[lofty depot]

u effectively casted nothing in 30 seconds

seems to happen where u build for like 20 seconds

have asp for some stuff but then when idk anything happens ur eveywhere

theres like negative mechanics during that fight

[keen warren]

Okay, this was all helpful. I’ll try to pug some raids to get more practice time.

[lofty depot]

like during the slams

ur building buildign building then surge move into the circle

then build for another w.e. it is 5 seconds

spend to move

granted this is a little harder with rattle

ur canceling casts and or doing nothing to move

[keen warren]

Okay, makes sense I think. I should be spending whenever I need to move and building when I know I’m about to move

[lofty depot]

correct u dont "need" to spend

build starlord, dont cap asp, spend procs

outside of those, your building and then spending to make sure you have good damage while moving

[keen warren]

Got it, thanks for all this

[livid jay]

anyone else just running out of eclipses at some point on mythic paladins in EC?

feels like i got so much ap all the time that i barely need to build outside before pressing again

[round field]

yes everyone

thats how the spec is designed

[livid jay]

well it aint that bad in keeper

havent really played ec until paladins

[round field]

thats a sign

keeper > elunes stinker

[livid jay]

[round field]

dont be a sheep

[shadow willow]

got rank 15 boomy on vael but didn't realize i had wild mushrooms because i blind copied rank 1 gg...

[lofty depot]

where are u using

are u saving incarns in places

[livid jay]

not really so far

[lofty depot]

wild mushrooms my goat

[lofty depot]

i hold the 2m til after the soak

hold 4m til around 430

u can also see where people are eclipsing on lorrgs

[livid jay]

hmm i copied some timings and the guy was sending it before soak

why u holding?

just so u can cast more efficiently after dodging?

[lofty depot]

cuz i was hotw-ing

and didnt want to waste time in incarn

[livid jay]

yea seems im not the only one that has that gap after like 1:20 roughly

[lofty depot]

and sometimes i was having to sit in bear

well u have the game yes

u could also hav eless gaps by spending eclipse prior to incarn in the opener

if u look at 6

[livid jay]

yea but lust still up

[lofty depot]

less massive downtime

do u think when i said spend eclipse i meant holding incarn for the duration

[livid jay]

oh my bad

its early

[lofty depot]

u spend eclipse to spend the ascendent procs for starfall buffs

more starfall buff

[livid jay]

so u kind of did what number 4 and 6 are doing with incarn timings up to like 2:something

[lofty depot]

ye

[tawny linden]

Did you also encounter a bug where moonkin from plus bl on the first boss in pit of saron does not save you from hiding behind the rock?

[lofty depot]

i was playing pretty safe cuz we 5 heal

[lofty depot]

uhh that used to happen cuz incarn makes u bigger

ive not encountered it this expac tho

used to happen in priory

but its not a bug

[tawny linden]

Yep, I was so big that I could manage to dps behind the rock and take stacks

[sharp cairn]

Whats the set GcD in retail atm?

[lofty depot]

usually out of incarn by the time the rock is out

[tawny linden]

That was a bad use of Inc, but was not expecting though

[livid jay]

our healer setup is beyond cursed

anyone got a mw alt and wants to raid xD

[sharp cairn]

Aint the GcD in retail 1.5 seconds then reduced by haste?

[lofty depot]

uhh sure

y

[sharp cairn]

Im looking at a log of a palyer, and he cast starfal after a starsurge within 0.5 seconds, im confused.

[lofty depot]

in lust

[sharp cairn]

AH ofc

Dumb morning brain be dumbing

[lofty depot]

mmhm mmhm

[sharp cairn]

Ye nah i gotta start looking at logs and do beter, my parses are horrible

[livid jay]

u know wowanalyzer?

[lofty depot]

parses are tricky

so much padding

[sharp cairn]

Im just gona start logging and doing Norm/heroics over and over and over till i got it in my fingers

I had a 4 parse yesterday on crown. And i am ashamed.

[lofty depot]

did u die

[sharp cairn]

yeah

but still

[lofty depot]

stop dying

[sharp cairn]

Duuh

[lofty depot]

silly

[livid jay]

probably a less running around more planting and casting angle

[lofty depot]

what are we running around for during cosmos?

[livid jay]

fun

[sharp cairn]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/id/103401570

I mean, i rly gotta step up on dragons

[livid jay]

thats a 14 not a 4!

[sharp cairn]

well 4 compared to my ilevel.

[livid jay]

ah dont mind those

[lofty depot]

well u could be aevorn and not died

[sharp cairn]

at least on the logs i saw yesterday, but lol

[lofty depot]

and parsed lower

go make fun of that guy

[sharp cairn]

We are friends in my guild, lol we dont bash people xD

[livid jay]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/h9cxgWvBG2pbf8Ta/126/60

[lofty depot]

never heard of friendly banter?

hmmm has mythic staff

[livid jay]

do this to cut off before you died

[lofty depot]

and not 2 crafts

[sharp cairn]

Nah, we are fragile creatures.

[lofty depot]

is curious

[sharp cairn]

Well, 2 craft actually makes sense

Because i had staff, but got a myth trac and it simmed better so

But with my dumb dumb brain i did not include an other Craft

[lofty depot]

we saving incarn for next pull or

[sharp cairn]

ssssssh

[livid jay]

also you are way too ethical starsurging

[sharp cairn]

we dont talk about my logs in details

[sharp cairn]

i feel naked when you do

[livid jay]

theres plenty targets to starfall

[lofty depot]

lets get one thing straight

under no circumstance are u permitted to cast roar as the first global in incarn

that is banned

[sharp cairn]

Not when you need people to get around with silver arrow

[lofty depot]

u will be placed in the shadow realm if i see something as cursed as that again

[sharp cairn]

because they be to slow

[lofty depot]

nono

[livid jay]

their problem

[lofty depot]

u can cast it prior to incarn

[sharp cairn]

thats true enough

[lofty depot]

but yea also... u dont press incarn without trees

shouldve pressed it closer to pull

[sharp cairn]

but hey - hey -hey .

[lofty depot]

can hold trees for a little

[sharp cairn]

Dont deep dive my logs, im good i will improve

[lofty depot]

well u linked them

[sharp cairn]

Ye just to show my horrible parse

[lofty depot]

yea im gonna fix ur horrible parse

[sharp cairn]

i guess i shot my self in the leg on that one

[sharp cairn]

ima go smoke a ciggie while reading your torture advices T_T

[lofty depot]

u pressed incarn before it was done

and without trees again

what in the banned fuckery

[sharp cairn]

ssssh, dont think about it

[livid jay]

yea gotta sync those up

and boom 40 parse

[sharp cairn]

@livid jay thats one one u linked?

wowanalyzer or what it was

[livid jay]

yea thats your log put into wowanalyzer

breaks it down a bit

[lofty depot]

ok i go to sleep have fun

[livid jay]

gn

[sharp cairn]

that is hilarious tho

gotta make sure to double dot u know

they stack

[livid jay]

yes

before you press incarn

😄

[sharp cairn]

should have casted 50

the wow alayzer looks good

[livid jay]

you only press incarn when you're ready to pump

and that means full ap, everything dotted, trees just pressed

[sharp cairn]

How come some logs show Solar eclipse at start of some fights with 99 parsed logs?

And how are parses measured? Is it just optimal damage?

[livid jay]

boomies werent completely sure about the best opener this season so a lot of people press eclipse before going incarn

[lofty depot]

Uhh, on cosmos mythic u do so cuz there's an amp when droplets die

[livid jay]

a 50 parse means you are bang average, a 90 parse means you are better than 90% of players, and better just in terms of damage done

[lofty depot]

Heroic is kinda w.e.

Parses are just highest damage

[sharp cairn]

So the closest damage you get to a sim basically

[royal zenith]

definitely not optimal damage

[lofty depot]

No

[royal zenith]

just damage in general

[lofty depot]

The sim has nothing to do with it

[loud kettle]

its entirely based on how other players of your spec did damage wise on the fight

And where you fit in that

If there were 100 boomkin parses (you were the 100th parse), and you did the 10th most dps, youd get a 90

All stars points is similar, except it compares only to the rank 1 parse for that fight

[sharp cairn]

i see i see

The analyzer rly make things easier to look at tho, good overview ill deff use that to try and correct my plays

[loud kettle]

And its out of 120 for some reason

[livid jay]

yes but be careful its not completely updated yet for this season

but its definitely nice to see the basics

but it also doesnt tell you to sync your cd's

but u can see that u basically never pressed trees into incarn which u should always do

[sharp cairn]

Yeah

I have to put that one on my brain

You never hold incarn and trees for anything right? Just once they sync up?

[livid jay]

really depends on the fight if theres adds coming up or something

[lofty depot]

U can hold incarn at times

U don't need to press incarn right away

[jade flume]

all star points is 100 points for the % and 20 points for difference between u and top parse

[sharp cairn]

Adds die so quick tho, but im only doing heroic so

[jade flume]

so a 99% parse that is 90% of max is 99+20*0.9

[lofty depot]

Well ur not using incarn to kill droplets

[sharp cairn]

i guess you would hold it for cosmos into p3 change

[livid jay]

https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/druid-balance/crown-of-the-cosmos?difficulty=heroic

another helpful website

[lofty depot]

U press 2 times in p1

[loud kettle]

Thats so weird

[lofty depot]

Hold the CD til p2, press 1 time in p2.. then 2 times in p3

All of which look like long holds

[sharp cairn]

ill bookmark em

[lofty depot]

Ur not incarning for adds tho

Or rather thats not why ur pressing it

Adds can die fast and u still press incarn and sequence properly

[sharp cairn]

I think some times i legit just press incarn because i panic that i dont have an ecplipse up

Which, is a big nono

Bit its my first time ever playing balance, so im still derping in my retardin brain from last season.

[royal zenith]

trust me, you will be derping till the end of times

just look at @lofty depot

[delicate perch]

[raven obsidian]

Hello

anyone knows the macro for force of nature to have it directly on target

[livid jay]

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor] Force of Nature

target doesnt work if i remember correctly

only cursor

[raven obsidian]

ah ok i dont like this macro to be honest

you can have your cursor not on target

[livid jay]

try replace @cursor with @target but i think it doesnt work

it doesnt really matter where you put your trees anyways

[raven obsidian]

will try

[livid jay]

unless u put them inside a pack that you are not supposed to pull in m+ xD

[raven obsidian]

who play trees in m+ ? 😄

[livid jay]

me

[raven obsidian]

ah ok :p

[livid jay]

way better in low keys

(10s and 12s)

[raven obsidian]

yeah

what are your talents for +10 and 12 then ?

[livid jay]

im playing this mostly

cause im too lazy to care for weaver procs which would be a bit better prio damage

apparently goldrin is bad aswell

can replace it with astral communion

but i like the AWOOOOO

[deft crown]

Can some1 please have a look at my mythic vorasius kill log? i felt like i was doing okay then i saw i am in the green https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/cqRdfyKJagh2p9HF?fight=22&type=damage-done&source=74

[raven obsidian]

i see i do agree that astral communion is better

but this is for low keys

[livid jay]

you had a bit too much downtime between 3:12 and 3:45 where you also massively overcapped ap and where you should have pressed force of nature again (you missed out on one force of nature usage)
and you did not try to pad on adds which you need to do to get a high log on this fight (cringe) so your boss damage parse is blue not green

[deft crown]

yeah i wasnt trying to pad on adds, call was fuck your logs and kill the boss, so i tried to focus on that

[livid jay]

which is good if its about killing the boss on prog yes

not pressing a single starfall without weaver procs is a pretty big damage loss there tho

you also cancelled 11% of your casts which is too much

[deft crown]

i see thanks for the quick summary

[livid jay]

when you enter an eclipse, make sure you are actually ready for it (pooled astral power and dots already on target)

[round field]

you cant cast ground targeted spells on a target

unless you have a specific talent for it

like some specs do

(we dont)

[royal zenith]

dont think this is true

but maybe placebo works it's magic

[livid jay]

feels better at least i think

[royal zenith]

there you go

I spam pit of sauron 10's for my weeklies, played both, didn't matter much for overall

what does matter is tank pulls and if the other players have hands

[deft crown]

so basically its okay to spend a little extra time casting wrath outside of eclipse to maxout astralpower and enter eclipse that way?

[livid jay]

yes as long as you dont sit on 2/2 eclipse charges ready

[deft crown]

noted, thanks

[livid jay]

@jolly delta theres something wrong with formatting in single target keeper prio

indentation after force of nature usage

[jolly delta]

ty will take a look

[livid jay]

basically this tho

[livid jay]

while you are on it, the single target priority list is not mentioned in the toc

[deft crown]

yeah i see sometimes i just panic that i am outside of eclipse and not doign enough dmg so i just press it but, now i see that i am doing even less dmg like that 😄

[livid jay]

yea thats probably a remnant of the old boomie mindset where u always needed to get into eclipse asap

but now that its actually a cooldown the mindest is slightly different

[deft crown]

yeah i guess just need a little bit of time to get used to it

[flint drift]

Do you all swap constantly per raid boss etc or do you tend to just play one version of the spec based on what you enjoy?

[unkempt ore]

I have a talent build per boss and almost all of them are different, its a pain in the ass ngl 🤣

You could probably get away with a fairly default keeper of the grove build, with kindling and incarn and it would be fine for most of the fights, but you'll lose some damage on fights where you dont need to extend dots

[flint drift]

That was my worry haha

[raven obsidian]

There is a new tuning class for 12.0.5 right ?

[ruby badger]

The changes between bosses are pretty minimal honestly

Except for LBV

[craggy sonnet]

i think longterm it is always gonna be worse to waste ecl uptime

[obsidian fjord]

play best build for every boss

u will become better player 👍

[wraith dirge]

Any suggestions as to what to craft tomorrow? I was thinking either Waist or Back

Or maybe shoulder

[pallid bay]

your character sheet looks absolutely awful

[delicate perch]

enc che mar encirin zul'jin's

[pallid bay]

you can craft waist and put a socket in it when your vault is shit

[lofty depot]

Could also cata shoulders and craft gloves

[wraith dirge]

I have it already

Just not using

[lofty depot]

That seems smart

[delicate perch]

I love vers

[lofty depot]

I mean even outside of the stats, it's just more ilvl

[wraith dirge]

I'm leaning towards shoulder because big int compared to the other slots

wait, its not higher lol

nvm

[lofty depot]

Gloves and shoulders are th same

And idk why u wouldn't wear it if u already had it

Essentially wasting crests and sparks

[hushed jetty]

Can confirm that there's a significant delay between leaving the raid instance and receiving non-looted currency.

idk how long but multiple hours minimum

[wraith dirge]

🤔

I meant I already have a hero tier shoulder, its just that current gear sims better

[lofty depot]

Early morning didn't see the wrist

But yea the stats are better cuz ur using gloves

Until u swap them and gloves are higher ilvl with better stats

Vers is beans

Pit neck should be better than ur current aswell

[lofty depot]

That's why there used to be a weakaura to remind u to loot boss

[restive jolt]

theres an option in nsrt for reminder to loot boss

[hushed jetty]

I wont make the same mistake again haha. It was honestly skill issue, I am new and thought that only one person needed to loot it, since the items work that way

[lofty depot]

Well the other items do, ur personal items dont

Ie the crests

[wraith dirge]

I never considered that neck

[restive jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-ds9-rom-yes-yes-please-gif-25757388

[hushed jetty]

Nightmare prey hunts give champion gear and crests right?

Is it even worth the effort of unlocking if you dont need champion gear anymore?

[split trail]

I am trying to understand Balance druid better and I have some questions if anyone can help me:

1)in M+ as Elune's Chosen, if stellar amplification is a good talent choice, should we prefer starweaver to rattle the stars, since it will give us free starsurges on the main target as we spam starfall?
2)I'm having issues where I might not have Eclipses or Inarn in quite a few pulls and I'm not a huge fan of Astral Communion, and it seems it is the only talent i can really afford to lose. I'm thinking of Swapping it for Sculpt the stars to at least have some lower cds on eclipses. Is it a bad idea?
3)I know I should apply moonfire if the target will leave more than 6 seconds, but is there a number of mobs in which you should just press moonfire twice and switch to starfire? when the tank pulls a lot in keys and I know they will leave more than 6 seconds i apply moonfire 6 times and then by then time I properly join the fight the other dps are at 100k dps and I am trying to catch up...

[lofty depot]

Depends if u have champ gear

Early gearing it's worth

It's how I geared my dh

Now it's w.e.

[lofty depot]

1. It's possible the prio damage is good
2. I don't think 2s off ur eclipse charge does anything. Ur likely wasting uptime and or tank pulling like shit. There are times ur out of eclipse at the end of packs yes. But that's I learning the pulls and the tank knowing what they're doing.
3. No because moonfire procs shooting stars and is also pretty big part of ur damage, having 2 dots be 10-15% of ur damage be good

[hushed jetty]

I have like 3 or 4 champion pieces left to upgrade but I'm probably just going to try and get them all to hero in m+, unlocking nightmare prey would take a while not sure if it's worth it

[lofty depot]

Could just do ur delves

[hushed jetty]

To farm crests?

[calm bough]

To farm crests spam any key above 10 cap myth can trickle down

😌

[hushed jetty]

lol

So easy fr

[calm bough]

Jk but it’s what I do now

[lofty depot]

Can also drop hero item

[hushed jetty]

im doing like +6 rn

[lofty depot]

Think it's +8?

Maybe it's +11, idk

Or the beacon thing

[hushed jetty]

I think it's +9 for mythic crests

But +6 starts dropping hero gear

[lofty depot]

Hmm, wonder why I thought +8

[jovial sundial]

Probably because of delves

Oh wait thats what were talking about, the chart threw me off

[fallow sparrow]

guys, should i spend all AP inside eclipse, build AP then spend all? or should I only use spender if im about to cap AP?

[lofty depot]

Both of those can be true

If u do 15% more damage in eclipse, why would u want to dump asp outside of eclipse

[fallow sparrow]

thanks

[lofty depot]

And then the other is spending asp. Which is building starlord, not capping asp, and not munching procs

If you know a mechanic is coming ur pooling asp for the movement in case u get kt

Then u spend to move because those are the best globals both damage wise and moving effectively

Spam casting dots while moving is worse, casting nothing while moving is the worst

[fallow sparrow]

thanks, just thinking if I'm doing something wrong. I've just started doing +12s and I'm averaging 95-97k overall at end of keys. other classes are doing over 100k overall

[lofty depot]

100k not even that high tbf

[craggy sonnet]

i think generally speaking you want to always spend during ecl.
the earlier you do so (at least in the first 10s which you have boat value) the better technically, unless other factors like movement come into play like arctic said

[fallow sparrow]

cheers guys!

[craggy sonnet]

past that, you can consider other things like how far out is your next eclipse and does it make sense to not spend too aggressively in the last 5s of your ecl (during incarn you usually always spend even if it hampers your next ecl) so you can hit the next one earlier

and sometimes you may even want to actively spend outside if ecl if there is a large gap where you wont be able to and can build up starlord stacks and pool enough before your next eclipse is due

[lofty depot]

I think there's just more planning into it, there's plenty of pulls where I was doing a certain sequence then changing what I was doing at the end... Say if I was sending eclipse at the end and then not having for start of the next pack.

U just have to run dungeons and learn what shit needs

Just like any class with multiple CDs now

Assuming ur just slamming eclipse at the end of packs and not thinking about a future problem

Cuz that's generally what I've seen people do

[fallow sparrow]

doesn't make sense to use eclipse seconds before a pack dies

save it for the next pull

but yes I understand, need to learn more. Thanks!

[lofty depot]

It doesn't make sense yea, but people still do it

Happens when ur trying to learn

[calm bough]

Also consider balance ramps and if ur in a group full of ppl blasting away it gives you little time to ramp

[rough flax]

is there a specific reason why ppl sent CA back to back in paladin mythic ?
Or is it bcs in EC you dont need to allign with trees so you just sent ?

[lofty depot]

Well u don't play trees in ec

[rough flax]

yh i know

[lofty depot]

So u align it with foe

[rough flax]

So in EC you can just sent them back to back basically and only really need to hold if a mechanic/ objective requires it ?

[lofty depot]

Well again the thing u send it with is foe

And if played correct the CD is up at the end of ur first incarn

It's also up around the 3rd paladin is running back in

There's some easy timing stuff u can add in that no one is really doing yet

Assuming those people don't know the proper eclipse + incarn sequence

[rough flax]

what would that be ?

[lofty depot]

I will not be sharing my thoughts so I can rank 1

Is just eclipse sending

[rough flax]

[craggy sonnet]

i responded earlier to mahra .. i dont think this is better in the long run of the fight

[lofty depot]

What part

[craggy sonnet]

this b2b incarn thing

[lofty depot]

Well that's cuz ur doing it wrong 🙂

[craggy sonnet]

im not doing it at all tbf

[lofty depot]

Nice

Actually now that I think about it.... I think the timing isnt b2b

It's like 25-30 off that

[craggy sonnet]

this is like extreemely bad for ecl uptime

and i can tell you that sim doesnt like losing eclipses

so unless you have very good reason to do so

idk

[lofty depot]

Well the sim also sends eclipse prior to incarn and spends procs

Which most of those logs don't do

[craggy sonnet]

why are they not doing it

[lofty depot]

Cuz they haven't looked at a sim most likely

[craggy sonnet]

unlucky

[lofty depot]

Real

[craggy sonnet]

though all of them are also playing lunation i think?

im not even sure thats the play

[lofty depot]

U think the sim doesnt play lunation or

Silly goose

[craggy sonnet]

no clue what you are saying

[full shuttle]

anyone got any addon recommendation for eclipse? i used the one from tracked buff and tracked bar but i just still not seein it enough 🙁 really like the old WA where there's long icon on right and left side

[lofty depot]

Just make the icons bigger?

If ur looking at ur cast bar and or asp bar u should be able to look at an icon next to it with a counting down number surely

Muscle memory of looking down at certain locations and getting used to something new

Maybe go practice looking at it

LFR or target dummy

[full shuttle]

guess thats the only solution for now😔 yeah still not used to the new ui
okay then i just have to play more, thank u

[slender island]

also consider checking out twintops resource bar, it colors the ap bar according to your eclipse and puts a timer on it, that's what's worked out the best for me in ecl tracking

[proper mica]

Which specs are yall liking for raid? The incarnation build or convoke?

[lofty depot]

Incarn mostly

Think I haven't played convoke since heroic 2nd week

Think we play convoke on m belo

[clever heart]

How is it with great vault?
If i kill cosmos once in the season, is it possible for her loot table to come in the great vault for the rest of the season, even i just kill first 4 bosses for the rest of the season?

[jaunty blaze]

Yes

[clever heart]

Where can i find information about this?

[lofty depot]

Idk was changed in DF when everyone was only killing first 2 and last 2 on alts

Probably just Google wowhead great vault changes

[charred mango]

ya killing any boss adds the loot of it + all bosses below it to your possible vault loot table for the rest of the season

[proper mica]

Is it still the same stat priority for incarn? I have been playing convoke this whole time but see every 1 at the top playing incarn

[dense steeple]

Can confirm i was an abuser to cause this change

I had a warrior in SL that only ever killed 2 bosses in SFO

Every week my lootoptions were first boss or jailer

I was grinding for big gavels

[lofty depot]

Usually it's different cuz haste doesn't do anything for convoke

This tier kind a weird cuz Crit is good

[proper mica]

Ahhh copy ty. I like convoke because of the huge burst on CDs so was just trying to figure out how it plays

[lofty depot]

Incarn gives u a bit more fluidity with ur cds

Granted some face trouble with it

[proper mica]

I would assume you have to make sure you have incarn up for every fury of elune.

Weird to use that in ST for sure

[lofty depot]

Not necessarily

The st sim sends foe before the 2nd incarn so it can line up with 3/4/5 incarns

[proper mica]

Ohh ty

[lofty depot]

In practical boss fights u sometimes save incarn anyway

[proper mica]

I’ll give it a shot next week for raiding

I hope they eventually buff moons back to good. I love the visuals

[lofty depot]

U can get that visual with convoke and or it breaker

When moons was buffed to be competitive with foe, no one liked it

Maybe it's better now, but shrug

[hushed jetty]

This is worth it right?

[lofty depot]

Sim it?

[hushed jetty]

I don't understand

[lofty depot]

Granted if u don't have tier, yes it's just always worth it

[lucid olive]

There is no harm in catalyzing those no

[lofty depot]

What don't u understand?

[lucid olive]

He doesn't know what simming is

[hushed jetty]

I think I got it

[lucid olive]

Nostra very very new

[hushed jetty]

Moonkin mentioned some simulators a few days ago

but I haven't gotten around to experimenting with those

[lucid olive]

Yeah raidbots.com

[hushed jetty]

It's a lot to take in at once haha

[lofty depot]

Simulators 👀

[lucid olive]

It's a good tool to see what items are upgrades

[lucid olive]

Well yeah I had to explain it in broad terms innit

[hushed jetty]

These set pieces they always give the same stats right? There's no way to get it in haste/mastery rather than crit/mastery

[lucid olive]

Yeah

[hushed jetty]

oke thanks

So getting my 2 piece should be a big step right?

I already have pants

[lucid olive]

Yes

[hushed jetty]

Sweet

Where do these catalyst mats come form? I had 2 when I finished leveling but I don't think I've gotten any more

[lucid olive]

You get one every 2 weeks I think

[lofty depot]

1 from world soul quest aswell

[lucid olive]

And then you get one extra from getting 2000 m+ score (or 2500?)

When you get 4set you also start randomly gaining catalyst charges from dungeons and raid bosses

[hushed jetty]

Interesting

[lucid olive]

Cause in the past it has been like a "oh I could catalyst these Veteran pants to finish 4set but then it's still on Veteran!" dilemma

So just letting you keep accruing charges after you've finished the 4set helped with that

[lofty depot]

Now I can cata off pieces freely

[unborn perch]

Delves, too

[hushed jetty]

thats good, I was regretting using it on my champion pants when I didn't know what it was

[lofty depot]

Getting 4pc most jnport

Then u can farm out hero items and cata those

U'll also have enough free cata charges next week to get 4p

[hushed jetty]

which items are the other pieces? I have chest and legs

[lofty depot]

Not gloves

[lofty depot]

Also to touch on this, haste/mastery isnt always ur best stat combo

Right now it's not even for me

[hushed jetty]

Moonkin reccomended crit and mastery staff so I went for that

[lucid olive]

Helm, shoulders, chest, hands and legs

Are the tier set items

[hushed jetty]

nice

[lucid olive]

Since you only need 4 pieces to finish the set that means you usually skip out on the item that has the worst stats and use the other 4

Which is usually Gloves this season

[bleak junco]

Question is there any special techniques that druids can do for the last boss of Sky reach to save ourselves from being dropped off the ledge? I thought cat form wild charge would work but it didn’t

[warm briar]

Rest of the group paying attention

You can use ursol’s to yeet it back to where it picked you up. Not sure if typhoon works or not but most CC will work. Best being stuns, then you can snare/rop as well if you have a monk

[bleak junco]

There’s no self saving measures after the point of no return like demon hunters etc though?

I was thinking flapping or some kind of wild charge but nothing worked so far

[round field]

just hit the add..

[lucid olive]

Regular Wild Charge should be enough

Regular Disengage works for Hunter

[bleak junco]

OK thanks

[polar tapir]

How are we simming for M+ these days?

[normal pilot]

you're not. not yet but maybe soon(tm)

[polar tapir]

Do you just run a few sims on 1, 2, 5 targets and average it out?

[normal pilot]

if it makes you feel better but that's just vibing

[polar tapir]

I guess it feels a bit better than yoloing a trinket or two 😃

[normal pilot]

sure placebo can make you feel better = play better

[proven swallow]

it does, its a bit tight

[lofty depot]

Yoloing trinkets 👀

Just get the good ones

[fallow sparrow]

why do we cast trees before CA?

[lofty depot]

Otherwise ur wasting a second in ca

[fallow sparrow]

oh

[lofty depot]

Wrath be casting damaging spells

[fallow sparrow]

they dont benefit from CA?

[normal pilot]

casting tree doesn't do any damage

[lofty depot]

Tell that to my trees melee strikes

[vale pebble]

they afk anyways mate

[drifting nova]

wdym its the other way round

[lofty depot]

Yea, they are mostly there to give u a damage buff

[fallow sparrow]

i wish they can throw twigs that we can light up with sunfire

[drifting nova]

the ancient of war is coming, trust

[lofty depot]

U trying to burn some trees?

[manic plume]

this is sunseeker mushroom with extra steps

[hushed jetty]

reached ilvl 260 and finished all dungeons in the same run :D

[prisma jay]

Good to know I should be doing 5s at 260+ lol ive been lowballing myself

265 and too chicken to go above a 2 lmfao

[hushed jetty]

haha wtf

well I am playing as a healer

But 6-7 has been the sweetspot

[hasty karma]

maybe a stupid question, but i’m away from my gaming rig and can’t check it myself. the starsurge/starfall cost reduction from elune’s guidance, if you chose incarn - is that only when you are in incarn or all the time?

[prisma jay]

Ah yeah im balance so ive been airing on the side of caution

[hushed jetty]

I am not sure but I don't think it's necessarily harder as DPS, you might just not find groups as easily

I am building my char for DPS still but playing healer to gear up

[vague jackal]

hi all, i wanted to get the BIS gear list from simcraft for my guildie, then saw there isnt one up for balance, is it fine to follow the wowhead list?

[normal pilot]

sure those lists are all fake anyways. w/e lets you move on from wasting time and get back into playing the game

[lofty depot]

Inside incarn ye

[twilit bone]

does shooting stars deal more dps inside an eclipse?

[lucid olive]

yes

[craggy sonnet]

ofc

they benefit from either/both eclipse bonuses

[prisma jay]

Anyone know if its still a true story that convoke wants to stay out of melee range to optimize damage?

[twilit bone]

aight tytyty

[lucid olive]

never was true

[prisma jay]

Oh actually?

Dang

[lucid olive]

maybe in Shadowlands

[drifting nova]

you wanted to be in melee

for rake

[normal pilot]

yes listen to kekkers

[drifting nova]

WHAT

I'M RIGHT

[lofty depot]

Actually being in melee range was a benefit for a bit

[lucid olive]

it was marginably better to be in melee some time yes

[lofty depot]

When u couldn't proc 3rd dot and thrash did it for u

[drifting nova]

for the wane debuff

[prisma jay]

[drifting nova]

shaking my head smh

[lucid olive]

well, the feral/resto spells come out of the same pool

[royal zenith]

kiddie pool or what?!

[lucid olive]

so standing in melee would make it feral spell and standing range would make it rejuv

[lofty depot]

[craggy sonnet]

dont the feral spells count towards your offspec bucket? so technically no harm in getting those, right?

ye ok

[lucid olive]

just doesnt matter much anymore since standing range = regrowth = blooming infusion

[prisma jay]

Ohhhhhhhh. This just made everything click into place

thank you lmfao

[royal zenith]

if you stand outside the raid, you will become an augmentation evoker

try it out..

[jaunty blaze]

please no

[craggy sonnet]

i guess that is the counteracting force .. yeah

[lucid olive]

wdym

augmentation evokers are much inside the raid

[prisma jay]

About time druids got dragon forms /lh

[lucid olive]

enhancement shamans outside the raid currently

[royal zenith]

[lucid olive]

2 bosses since Crucible where Wordup is playing diff spec

and theyre back to back Voidspire bosses

state of that spec must be dire

[jaunty blaze]

not like the others are too hot either

[lucid olive]

he played mm hunter on paladins and dev dh on alleria yday

[jaunty blaze]

😔

[royal zenith]

you can only have so much dead weight

boomie is one

[lucid olive]

real

im there to buff mark of the wild and crack jokes

[prisma jay]

occasional floor warming and brezzing

[drifting nova]

why does prot pal do so much dam

[royal zenith]

the question you should ask is

why are you doing so much less dmg

[drifting nova]

prob beat him on druid, but he's like 245 doing 300k aoe pulls

0ramp

[wild dune]

just ppal things

they always do omega dam

[round field]

If ur losing to tank i have bad news..

[pallid bay]

boomkin is alright though

[lucid olive]

so are my jokes..

[pallid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/twerk-cat-dae-cat-gif-24200690

[drifting nova]

listen I was on my warrior without 4pc but still

ppal is dumbo

[round field]

Ur so bad

[drifting nova]

you do 300k at 245

[olive cloak]

Just picking my Balance druid up. I used to have my plater nameplates change colour if enemies needed MF/SF. Is that still possible? Ty

[drifting nova]

no

[olive cloak]

Worried that might be the case. Fair enough, I'll use my eyes. Although, it looks like stuff shouldn't fall off much...Or am I wrong there?

[lucid olive]

they don't fall off if you re-apply

[drifting nova]

if you use the starfll one, no

+3s

[olive cloak]

Cheers, ty. I'll have a proper look at all of it soon. Haven't touched it since TWW.

[lofty depot]

They didn't fall off before either

Curious

[hushed jetty]

exactly 2000 hehe

[lucid olive]

[lofty depot]

U know like when ur 4 year old ties his shoe for the first time

[hushed jetty]

I want to say yes but I am 24 years old I don't have a child

[eager raft]

Getting pretty close to Arctics score

[hushed jetty]

This is my last piece of veteran gear, if I craft wrists to replace them do I get the ability to transform veteran crests into champion crests?

[lofty depot]

If they're all upgraded to max vet yes

[hushed jetty]

all my other gear is champion or hero

[eager raft]

Then yes

[lofty depot]

It would be level 2 in champ track on all pieces I think

Cuz 2/6 champ is 6/6 vet

[hushed jetty]

oh so I don't even need to replace this piece?

i just need to upgrade my 1/6s to 2/6s

[lofty depot]

Ye, which u can save crests if upgrade vet items rather than the champ ones

But just saves u time farming crests now

[hushed jetty]

I see I see

I only have 1 champion gear that is 1/6 all others are 2/6+ so its going to be easy then

[tender elbow]

are u using cloth as a leather

[hushed jetty]

wow im stupid

how did that happen

[hushed jetty]

thanks

now ill really have to get some crafted

unless some drop from the dungeon i was doing rofl

divine intervention

[lofty depot]

Jeez

[tender elbow]

haha gzgz

[hushed jetty]

xd

[red nymph]

the fuck does this even mean? should a boss not count toward all star? how about they just remove add damage from log?

[round field]

you just dont get allstar points

nothing new

theyve been doing it forever in pad fights

[lofty depot]

Vote no they're taking my boss away

That's toxic

[round field]

it does not concern me

therefore i will vote yes

[lofty depot]

Ahhhh

Stop thag

(it's getting removed regardless) everyone always votes yes to all of it

Every mass aoeing cleave fight gets nuked

[red nymph]

i mean in the same survey they asked if the voidlings from crown, and the orbs from salad bar(that dont die) should be removed from logs. but they cant do the same for dragons? they just remove the allstar all together?

am i misisng something?

[lofty depot]

Well they didn't say remove void orbs

They said remove the fight

If they remove void orbs from the fight then people stop aoeing

[red nymph]

on salad? they said remove the damage from orbs that dont die

[lofty depot]

Because it doesn't help their parse

Yes at the end of the fight when u could be killing. Boss, but instead spam starfall while everyone else kills boss

Ur padding and they're not

[red nymph]

regardless, why is this the option and not just have the add padding removed from dragons?

[lofty depot]

Well reread what I said

[red nymph]

what you said made no sense

yoiu said they are removing saladbar

[lofty depot]

Clearly didn't read what I said

[lofty depot]

Yes those are the dragon ball shit

[red nymph]

on saladbar they are adjusting the logs to not show pad damage on orbs that dont die. On crown, they are adjusting logs to not show voidling damage from p1

that is literally no different then dragon adds

but their solution for dragon is remove the entire log

[lofty depot]

It is different

[red nymph]

not at all

[lofty depot]

There's like 10 sets of orbs on dragons u kill

[red nymph]

just remove the add cheese that skews the logs

remove them from logs

[lofty depot]

So people stop aoeing?

And then wipe a bunch

[hasty mirage]

yea the corollary to saladbar is only dont count the orbs if they are alive when you kill right?

[lofty depot]

Yes

[red nymph]

you still have to kill them or you dont kill boss and cant parse anyways

[ruby tide]

For raid, is elune good? I hate playing force of nature, and keepers has to use that talent

[lofty depot]

Yea that's so.eone else's problem so I can parse. See how that works

[lofty depot]

No

[red nymph]

but if they are skewing the logs, just remove them from the logs?

just like orbs

just like voidlings on crown

[lofty depot]

They aren't removing the orbs from saladbar

[red nymph]

theyre all mechanics you have to do regardless

the ones that dont die they are

[lofty depot]

The void orbs are less than 40 mobs

[red nymph]

IE excess aoe cheese thats skewing logs

[hasty mirage]

great then whole raid is specced for full 2 target cleave and the adds never die until the guild votes on the scrub that has to do the aoe pad and cant parse

[lofty depot]

The void orbs spawn 40 mobs in 1 minute

[red nymph]

so remove them from the logs

?

[ruby tide]

Care to explain? trying to learn balanec

[lofty depot]

Casting Starfire while doing. Mechanics is unfun

[maiden pasture]

bro this was so funny in nerubar

when they removed rashanan small adds from all stars

[lofty depot]

He doesn't understand the degeneracy that happens

[red nymph]

they have done it many times in the past with similar cheese mobs

[maiden pasture]

and people started just not hitting them and guilds wiped to it

[ruby tide]

wait, so you have to cast starfire on st always? i thought you only press it with the proc, the rest of the time i use wrath

[lofty depot]

As ec yes

What proc

Hmm

[eager raft]

This is why I hate when wcl pushes their little agenda with removing stuff from logs or allstars

[ruby tide]

the one that makes starfire free

[lofty depot]

No lol

[red nymph]

exactly, if they still want to kill the boss for their logs, they still have to kill them

[lofty depot]

As ec ur casting starfire always

Unless out of eclipse

[ruby tide]

ohhhhhh, i see, thank you so much

[maiden pasture]

"their agenda" u know they do it from community perception, heavily from what people ask in their discord and then they do a poll for it

[lofty depot]

Are u procing them

Or are u hiding them in combat

Or are u wanting them to always show even when not proc'd

[lucid beacon]

just show in combat

[lofty depot]

That doesn't answer the questions presented

Please try again

[eager raft]

rigged voting don’t show results

[maiden pasture]

good one

[lofty depot]

U don't need to show results cuz everyone votes yes regardless cuz they think them not being able to pad isn't a skill issue

[lucid beacon]

yes i am

[drifting nova]

it isnt

[eager raft]

I insta slam no on all those wcl polls

[lofty depot]

Based respectable

1 of 12 people prob

[eager raft]

Their 35 might become a 40 if those padders aren’t padding

Real ones sort by boss damage anyway

[lofty depot]

I r1'd on fight and boss dam, so is that really a problem

Starfall on 2t wow so hard

[eager raft]

Yeah we’ll ignore the 100k dps to void orbs

I’m not good enough at my class to get decent ranks whether they remove stuff or not

Oh I actually didn’t read this one

I change my vote to yes

Should do the same with imperator adds that don’t die

[royal zenith]

remove the dragons

[eager raft]

Like entirely???

I do think removing it entirely would be healthier than just removing the adds

[royal zenith]

yeah sure why not

who cares

[eager raft]

definitely not you

Caring is so lame

And you’re nonchalant

[royal zenith]

nah it's more that

people will go out of their way to make dragon boss the most optimal pad-fest

like legit will tell others to NOT touch voidorbs

it's genuinely not fun to parse that way

for anyone

except ones that have the ability to chokehold their group

[lofty depot]

Go look at the top log

Lol

[red nymph]

exaclty. just remove the damage to adds

[eager raft]

I don’t need to look to know it’s a Chinese guy who paid everyone to let him do all the add damage

[lofty depot]

It's not china

[eager raft]

Removing damage to adds means no one kills them

[royal zenith]

it's clecia

jk, I dunno current rank

[eager raft]

And then the fight is miserable

Either remove the entire fight or remove nothing

[royal zenith]

well it's also just the 4th boss of the raid

drops the best trinket in the game

people will want to kill it

but adding it to allstars will make it cringe for reclear

[lofty depot]

Oh it is china man

Unforch

[royal zenith]

I dunno, my list goes on of just

deleting it

for the sake of more fun in the game

but subjective ofc

[grave agate]

is there a way to make a macro to cast heart of the wild and then shift instantly back into moonkin form?

[lofty depot]

Are u talking the bear form one or

U should play fluid form and cast wrath

[royal zenith]

wasnt worm-boss also removed from allstars?

I dont recall

[lofty depot]

Yes

As was stix

[royal zenith]

similar situation imo

[eager raft]

worm boss was way more degenerate

[lofty depot]

Yea, the adds need to die but won't if they stop aoeing

[eager raft]

People purposely getting infested to spawn more adds

[lofty depot]

So u just remove it and doesnt matter

[grave agate]

nah the wild growth one

[eager raft]

yeah you 100% gotta just remove the entire fight if you’re removing the adds

[lofty depot]

Stix u could leave the dogs up and not eat them so u could parse

[eager raft]

Either all or nothing

[lofty depot]

Rather than have the balls pick them up and bring to melee

[royal zenith]

you can bruteforce anything on these type of bosses

just heal through the orbs

[lofty depot]

Yea u still play fluid form and cats wrath

[royal zenith]

keep them alive forever etc.

[lofty depot]

Ur wasting a global

[grave agate]

hmm I see, or you just never press it : )

thanks

[eager raft]

I definitely wouldn’t be pressing hotw to use wild growth lmfao

But the bear version is good

[grave agate]

in m+ sure

[eager raft]

In all content. Bear form is incredibly op

[grave agate]

100%

I am just forced to play boomie in raid

[dull dust]

how u gunna buy items

need to shop bro u just got a penta

[royal zenith]

I would respond with a sensible LoL answer

but I dont play that game

[dull dust]

yey

yet

[exotic perch]

hope they cook again with the arena updates

god that mode is the best

[dull dust]

based

[exotic perch]

i smurfed the shit out of a bard game yesterday in arena

[fair pasture]

did they change something with valeera tanking nullaeus, last time it was easy to heal her but now shes like, constantly dying immediately even with all my stuff on her

[exotic perch]

make her dps

not tank

[fair pasture]

ty

[hushed jetty]

😵‍💫 🥴

[willow thicket]

/run if not xalfr then xalfr=CreateFrame("ModelScene", nil, UIParent) xalfr:SetPoint("TOP") xalfr:SetSize(512, 512) xalac = xalfr:CreateActor() xalac:SetModelByFileID(5159886) end xalac:SetAnimation(1138) xalac:SetPosition(2,0,0)

/run if not xalfr then xalfr=CreateFrame("ModelScene", nil, UIParent) xalfr:SetPoint("TOP") xalfr:SetSize(4096, 4096) xalac = xalfr:CreateActor() xalac:SetModelByFileID(5159886) end xalac:SetAnimation(1138) xalac:SetPosition(2,0,0)

I saw these on t*itter

they are uhh, beneficial to boomie rotation

don't run them mid dungeon, you might have to restart game

[exotic perch]

ah yes those seem excellent to type out

[willow thicket]

its frightening that this is even possible

[exotic perch]

would be very useful rather then just hitting my buttons like a normal person

(that was all sarcasm)

[lofty depot]

Guys I just got hacked what do

[red nymph]

like those addons that send all your gold to some one as soon as you open mailbox

[willow thicket]

no these just play an animation on your screen, or something similar to that

no shady stuff

I wouldn't risk getting banned here

altho I remember one time when playing private wotlk, someone posted an "Updated" version of DBM, and when ulduar came, turns out it was auto deleting peoples' items so that the guy who updated it, and his guild, could get "realm first"

[red nymph]

if you cant beat em, fuck em

or something like that

[willow thicket]

ye that one was incredibly fucked up though lmao

on a private blizzlike server dude, like, people got realm first on those bosses like a decade prior

[dull dust]

send my ur credit info

[lofty depot]

"hello this is tech support"

[dull dust]

no i just need money

k thx

[fair pasture]

got it thanks team

[fair pasture]

What animation

[red nymph]

If ya'll are coming up to a period of extended time outside of eclipse, do you spend all youre asp before leaving eclipse or do you keep your asp and get 3 stacks of starlords as soon as possible outside of the eclipse?

[maiden pasture]

spend in eclipse

[red nymph]

wb gamz

[lucid olive]

should exit Eclipse with low AP in general and spend your downtime building back

[twin lotus]

any cooks for mythic beloren burn?

i am running

should i change the umbral thing for communion maybe?

[red nymph]

prob not communion with convoke. maybe look into dropping FOE for 1 min convoke but i think those are the 2 highest simming build for ST

[lofty depot]

Sunseeker prob bad

[tranquil vault]

is ?? to do as balance? or better do as guardian/resto?

[red nymph]

its bugged. cant do as balance atm

bugged or overlooked

[tranquil vault]

oke

[red nymph]

one way or the other

[tranquil vault]

i saw someone do it as balance with her as dps, but just really slow dps to not over aggro valeera

but better do it as guardian? or resto?

[twin lotus]

if u just want the crests just find a group Vincent

[red nymph]

if youre doing that, you might as well just go resto

[tranquil vault]

i want the solo achieve 🙂

[red nymph]

you just hot alleria and afk until you have to dispell

[tranquil vault]

the 5 crests are meh.. rather do a myth 10+ then for crest

[exotic perch]

yeah do it as resto with dps valeera

its a joke it just takes 14 mins

[red nymph]

can throw some cat dps in there but no need

[tranquil vault]

will it work in the resto one button dps spec? 🙂

[exotic perch]

i threw one moonfire at the start and that was it to nulleaus

you can dps the adds tho

its so easy lol

did it on my shaman too same idea

[tranquil vault]

oke will create a healing spec 🙂

[drifting nova]

god I wish I could flame the horde