balance

[fiery veldt]

got it

ty

[drifting nova]

no wonder I dont trust hpals

[dull dust]

understandable

[drifting nova]

crusader strike when

[dull dust]

when melee wings

[drifting nova]

hpal still has the worst mastery in game

[fickle pier]

that's a burst aoe talent, which is useless in high keys when mobs live for the full duration of starfall anyways.

[jovial grotto]

where can u read this?

[lucid olive]

in 12.0.5 development notes

theyre making meteorites a 2 target talent instead of a 1 target talent

and then nerfing the damage

[jovial grotto]

cant find it on wowhead

[lucid olive]

and the reason they stated is that they changed it because its easier than fixing the tooltip

[jovial grotto]

do u have link to the article?

[obsidian jetty]

it's weeks old

[jovial grotto]

ah ty

[obsidian jetty]

can probably just google 12.0.5 wowhead patch notes

[lucid olive]

https://www.wowhead.com/blue-tracker/topic/us/12-0-5-ptr-development-notes-2270121

its here but yeah its old

just ctrl+f druid

[fickle pier]

They can't write. I report tens of typos every expansion.

[lucid olive]

the ring from nexus point was a typo until expansion launched

was called Occulsion of Void on beta

[fickle pier]

Multi gorillion dollar company can't hire one junior year english major intern to just read every line of text once

[dull dust]

might accidently give them experience for the 10years exp requirements

[obsidian jetty]

Then you find out the junior year english major did read it and missed them 💀

[obsidian fox]

Hi guys, I remember there used to be a way to put a buff or debuff in the center of the screen to remind you if it's active or not, I want to put one for "Starlord" buff to know if it's fully charged or not, anyone knows how?

[delicate perch]

with cooldown manager or a various addon giving extra features to that

[obsidian fox]

Apart from Cooldown Manager what other addons are there? just to know

[drifting nova]

addons were banned in the great purge

[obsidian fox]

So there's no addons for that anymore? D:

[lucid olive]

theres several addons that interact with the CDM

but they are all built around the default in-game one

they just let you customize it

[obsidian fox]

And which one can I use to show only my Starlord passive counter? I'm trying with CDM right now but it seems super bugged

[lucid olive]

any of them

[proper mica]

do the eyes of the eagle enchant work? they say they are best for me but i put them on and had no stat change

[lucid olive]

the enchant doesnt give stats that are on the stat panel

[obsidian fox]

Where can I check which ones exist or options for that

[lucid olive]

wago

tons of profiles and imports from different addons

[proper mica]

oooh ty

[lucid olive]

several good free ui packs as well on there

[craggy sonnet]

are you currently using the cdm?

[lucid olive]

yes he said it was buggy

[craggy sonnet]

i mean usually

other than looking at it for this now

because if not, just putting the starlord buff icon in the otherwise empty buff group should be easy enough

doesnt require an addon or anything

[drifting nova]

whoever made the aa puzzle box needs to find a new job wtf

this is cursed

it's eclipse in item form

[exotic perch]

yeah it sucks to use

but damn is it good

[drifting nova]

cant remember if the cursed idol was a stationary channel now

barely got to use it as never got it til end

atleast that was half the casttime

[meager storm]

only took them a gazillion years

W

[craggy sonnet]

couldnt you select from a dropdown before anyways?

[lucid olive]

yeah 1 per sim

[craggy sonnet]

ohhh

its combinations

sorry

ofc

fried

[meager storm]

prob should remove the dropdown one

since its getting ignored

[craggy sonnet]

its the fallback if you dont select anything

or?

[meager storm]

i had haste on the dropdown one and then i selected haste too on the new options and added like 3 mil combinations

so i think the dropdown one is literally just not counting at all

same for food and pot

[meager storm]

oh ye its this

[craggy sonnet]

it also is gonna always sim your base with the option from the dropdown i think

[meager storm]

if u have nothing selected it uses the drop down ones, but if u choose from the combinations it uses those exclusively and ignores the dropdown

W

[craggy sonnet]

i think it sims your base (current) with the dropdown one

since it adds a single combination worth of iterations

if you select just one from the new thing

[meager storm]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3pZqav3yV4SxEaLgfVQVYn

nah i selected vers and ignored the haste from the dropdown

unless only base gear is the haste one

[craggy sonnet]

yes, thats what i mean

the "Current Gear" one

is with the dropdown option

[meager storm]

[ancient lodge]

Hey guys sorry a bit of a noob question but, on crown of the cosmos, is there any indicator for who is being targeted by the first void expulsion cast?

It seems like the purple arrows only appear for the subsequent 2 targets?

[lucid olive]

isnt that a debuff

[ancient lodge]

I actually didn't check my raid frames to verify if a debuff appears hmm

I was hoping there would be a indicator, like I would grow big or get a purple arrows.

But those seem to appear on the follow up cast rather than the initial cast haha? Not sure if I'm wrong hmm

[exotic perch]

the first one is not targetted

the next 3 are you get the debuff

[meager storm]

first one is baited, then the other ones are debuffs on people pretty sure

[exotic perch]

hence why stacking is good

[lofty depot]

if u have nsrt u get a private aura

u also turn big no?

[dull dust]

arctic

[lofty depot]

hi

[ancient lodge]

What is nsrt haha?

[dull dust]

hi

[lofty depot]

northern sky raid tools

its in bigwigs too i think

[ancient lodge]

Ok, so just to clarify the first one that is baited, there's no indication on who's the one getting targeted ya haha?

I think bigwigs has the countdown, but I didn't see it saying who's the one who's gonna bait the first poop ball haha

But I'm likely wrong haha!

[lofty depot]

just enable it surely

[ancient lodge]

Ahh ok let me double check that hmm

Thanks guys!:)

[digital berry]

Btw what is this meek thing and why are weak auras back

Is that a bit coin miner that I just put into my addon folder ?

[somber path]

its a fork of weakauras that has less functionality then the original but works for midnight

[gloomy spruce]

hi

[dull dust]

hi

[meager storm]

no since its baited it just drops under someone no indication, thats why u want to stack

[ancient lodge]

Uh oh no wonderr

I may have been unintentionally messing up the raid

I always thought I only had to bait it if I had a purple arrow

[delicate perch]

stacking on the melee ya

fuck em

[ancient lodge]

Ofc

It'll let me out parse them more

[untold ice]

it was like that very briefly

then it got bugged or reverted or something

[bleak kiln]

Are log analysis chill here?

Need to figure out what I could be doing better

[lofty depot]

arctic = chill

[grim crater]

@lofty depot https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YVwqT7ZtaGMcdC8g?fight=37&type=damage-done

Lightblinded fight I just did

felt better, still not great

at moments I peaked for 100+ dps but fell off a bit in this run, other attempts in the same instance I kept a more stable amount of dmg

[unreal bridge]

those are the talents i used, i was doing 135k

im 272 not at all decent trinkets

[ivory talon]

Yo quick question in AA what buff are people taking for say a +15ish

[lofty depot]

so uhh, paladins is kind of a EC boss granted its heroic so w.e.

if were not worried about that we shall just work through it

[grim crater]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Enr4bc3JeOOzHLYY8R

[lofty depot]

1. this sunfire in incarn is not ok

2. that surge prior to incarn, were just wasting asp prior to our big cds

3. you dotted everything and sat casting wrath for 5 seconds.... either send cds after the dots or enter eclipse then do that

4. foe prior to trees

[grim crater]

no no

that has an explanation

fkn team wouldn' t dispell paladins

all the fkn fight

so they would lust and in order not to waste my whole rotation I just kept spamming wrath to do something

[fickle pier]

hm

[grim crater]

when bubbles went down thats when I would throw Trees Foes and Incarn

[lofty depot]

do u mean "wouldnt" dispell?

or

[grim crater]

yeah exactly, just corrected it

[lofty depot]

ok so i would suggest next time.. telling them to seek help

[grim crater]

ik

[lofty depot]

what we doing here

[grim crater]

I was so mad

[grim crater]

i couldn't tell ya tbh, would like to have an answer for that but don't

[lofty depot]

assumption being its the move

(idk timings cba)

but press wild charge for it :/

the problem with this sequence is ur delayed and now foe doesnt line up

[grim crater]

as in, I waited too much or didnt wait for them to go off cd?

[lofty depot]

yea so cds are fun

generally u align them up

i need u to stop pressing regrwoth in ca

uhh also i didnt really think about it til now

when theres only 2 targets ur starfire will hit, u shouldve been in solar and wrathing

but 3t boss can be funny

sorry got busy

ur essentially not preparing for movement and having major gaps

paladins has a big move like every minute

all the rest of them are out of group side step stuff

u shouldve also crafted staff by now

[ripe depot]

Hello. Does anyone have a plater profile or plater mod that updates colors based on if moonfire and sunfire is on the target? I can’t get any mods Iv found on wago to work.

[lucid olive]

that function doesnt work anymore

[lofty depot]

sorryt didnt answer

ive seen people start taking crit

[ripe depot]

Ahh thanks

[grim crater]

yeah you're right

I could be casting but I'm not cause I have nothing

[grim crater]

whats our crafted staff?

like the nam

I thought our bis was the one hander from Belo'ren

nevermind I got it

[lofty depot]

idk go lok at wowhead

somehting cane

[static sluice]

Planning around bis only makes sense if you have a realistic chance of acquiring it in a timely manner.
And if you do you will probably want to have the weapon for the kill because the boss is hard

[lofty depot]

"bis" also isnt effecient early on

just cuz something is bis later doesnt mean its the best option early

[red nymph]

did they fix the cheap feast reset?

[delicate perch]

sure (I have no idea what that means)

[red nymph]

if you ate a hearty feast you could refresh the duration with a non hearty feast

[lofty depot]

not that im aware

it worked last raid

[delicate perch]

sounds like poor activites

[sonic mica]

errr anyone knows the stat priority for balance? Wowhead says haste>crit>mastery>vers.........icyveins is mastery>haste>crit>vers

[delicate perch]

[lofty depot]

depends on ur gear... what ur doing and plenty of other things

sim your dude

[lucid olive]

Where does it say that on wowhead

[delicate perch]

right here (I never learned how to read)

[raven obsidian]

Hello guys

Anyone has northern sky raid tool profile with vocal reminders so i can copy / post it plz ?

[lofty depot]

just go to the reminders tab and turn them on

shows like spell and text tts

check the boxes

[tight cypress]

Hey there, just had a look at some guides and came across something weird. In the single target priority for elunes chosen with starweaver it seems like you dont enter solar eclipse? Do you just cast Starfire as builder?

[jaunty blaze]

You cant even enter solar in elunes chosen

[tight cypress]

Oh yeah i just noticed

sounds like a fun version to try out for M+

[rain prairie]

Sorry I'm new and also confused by this with when to use which builder, I'm using elunes chosen and star weaver . Is it still the case I should be wraith st/Starfire mt as my builders but occasionally using the free wraith or Starfire no matter the target count ? I keep seeing people using Starfire and starfall in single target?

[jaunty blaze]

Read the lunar calling talent and it will become clear why starfire is your main builder

You only wrath in st while playing elunes chosen when you aren't in eclipse

[rain prairie]

Oh thank you

That's really helpful

[stable frigate]

Huh you sure about that? Do you EVER cast wrath in elune's besides maybe prepulling?

[delicate perch]

Huh you sure about that? Do you EVER cast wrath in elune's besides maybe prepulling?

[molten ember]

Huh you sure about that? Do you EVER cast wrath in elune's besides maybe prepulling?

[jolly delta]

I am not sure of anything

[slender island]

that is a very a healthy approach to things

[jolly delta]

ok maybe there are two things of which I am sure

[vital hound]

Huh you sure about that? Do you EVER cast wrath in elune's besides maybe prepulling?

[copper valve]

I thought it was a thing that Star Cascade procs when the projectile hits the target

Didn't know it was an actual bug

[wise aurora]

Does anyone have an add on or a good time setup for tracking free starsurge/starfall procs. I find I have to stare at small icons currently and miss so many.

I feel like they should be our pop up icons around our character like eclipses

[hushed jetty]

Is there somewhere I can see what % of my DPS is expected to come from each ability?

I understand in AoE it will differ on the amount of enemies, but in single target maybe.

I just want to know if I'm optimizing my DoTs really

[slender island]

i dont think that makes a whole lot of sense in general, but probably the closest you can get that to that is looking at top logs, e.g. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?boss=3182&class=Druid&spec=Balance&difficulty=4

but no point really in targetting %s of dps per ability, so best to just practice your rotation

[sleek dirge]

Hey, im not entirely sure which gems to get. I've simed several times my character and it seems to change all the time. Mastery/haste seems to be the classical combo but i've seen a lot of Crit/Haste on some top warcraft logs profile.

What are your thoughts on that?

[raven obsidian]

Ty

[round field]

Its gonna change probably with any gear u get

Just chose one and stick with it

It wont make a relevant difference

[hushed jetty]

I understand

[fiery kindle]

what do u prefer in m+? i dont want play EC..

[jaunty blaze]

Then dont

[fiery kindle]

wish

[jaunty blaze]

Idk you can just not play it?

Noone forcing you

[fiery kindle]

That's the equivalent of picking bm on a hunter

[jaunty blaze]

Ok but bm is actually good in m+ what's your point

[fiery kindle]

I was just asking a question

[jaunty blaze]

I answered it tho

But you already have your mind made up

[atomic cove]

Big boomies

are there any boomie goats to watch good pov videos or explanation of rotation?

[fiery kindle]

for m+ dwilkz good

[jaunty blaze]

Don't think there is anyone for educational content but ppl stream boomie gameplay

[slender island]

but boomies are moonkin, not goats

[jaunty blaze]

Krona canexx dwilkz

[atomic cove]

Hahaha

right you are

ok ty guys i will check em out

does any of them do raid too?

[jaunty blaze]

They do but idk if they stream it

[fiery kindle]

I generally look through logs

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/k96go2VkpsdBZpemGyBvzL

[gentle patio]

Yes you can. With incarn 🙂

or another talent

[jaunty blaze]

Ye you can also just not talent lunar calling

[gentle patio]

yep

[jaunty blaze]

Do you ever do that

[viscid ermine]

After starfall buffs, we starfalling 2 targets now?

Like dragons or p2 alleria

[grand galleon]

Whats like a good overall to be aiming for in M+?

[stable hawk]

depends on the dungeon you're pushing

like what lvl

[round field]

150k

[grand galleon]

12-14's playing trees as well

[drifting nova]

eww, trees

[grand galleon]

Naaa trees are life

[craggy sonnet]

Not as easy to do actually

[elder remnant]

Is oi in this discord anymore

[craggy sonnet]

Ye @pallid bay

[kindred token]

Hi. How do you guys track sun/moonfire and when do I need to cast those?

[twin lotus]

ashamas, open the pins of the discord and read carefuly the rotation on dreamgrove.gg

practice it on a dummy until u feel comfortable

You can use the cooldown manager to track them

[copper gate]

Good morning my fellow moons and suns

[ivory barn]

we dont use fury of elune in raids anymore? I musta missed something

[fair pasture]

[wise aurora]

Where is the best place to see good talent loadout for specific raid encounters?

[storm karma]

Archon shows common builds for boss encounters with alternatives

Is it the best. Idk lol

[wise aurora]

Thanks, at least a starting point for things for me to consider

[craggy sonnet]

can also see whats being played on warcraftlogs

[grand galleon]

Yeah warcraft logs is really good for that I find

[lucid olive]

nah

only deivations like that are in class tree

can look at what top logs do

for spec and hero talents it depends what dmg profile your group needs

[leaden birch]

No one runs convoke anymore

[lofty depot]

Good

Down with convoke

[leaden birch]

What's wrong with the voke

Voke goes brr

Kinda

[wise aurora]

At least it's not run Kyrian instead of convole this time

[lofty depot]

When all ur damage is front loaded and/or comes from 1 ability, and necessarily an ability only good at st.....it's shit

Look at feral

[leaden birch]

I don't even look in the direction of feral

[lofty depot]

Skill expression >

[red nymph]

?? boss is still impossible for balance

[lofty depot]

Correct

[red nymph]

but actually free as resto

[lofty depot]

Go play as bear/resto or go do it with a group of 5

[red nymph]

resto you can just put 3 hots on alleria and afk until dispell

[lucid olive]

just find a group in lfg

theres loads of em doing it for the crests

[red nymph]

i tried it as bear as well, got him to like 7% then got hit got 900k?

[jade flume]

man pugging dreamrift

is some crazy shit

and its such a bitchass boss too

[lofty depot]

Did u consider pressing a defensive and fr

[red nymph]

Well when every other one hits you for like 200k and then a 900k comes out of nowhere, its kind of hard to plan for without any warning that its going to for 4x as much damage

[lofty depot]

End up sending incarn prior to intermission 3

Then having it in the last 25%, pop it and slam as much as possible

[red nymph]

Why would I even worry about that tho? I can just go resto and use 1% of the brainpower

[drifting nova]

you know why

[lofty depot]

Well at the time when I did it, I was unaware of resto

So u plan out ur CDs a bit to do things to not die

[red nymph]

Sure yess but when a mechanic goes from doing 200k damage one hit to 900k the next without any warning, like an enrage, there is no planning. Its unforeseen.

[lofty depot]

Well no, it's foreseen cuz p3 it hits harder

U just lacked knowledge

[red nymph]

They were both in p3

Correct. I lacked the knowledge that it could randomly hit 4x harder

[lofty depot]

Valeera give u shield or w.e. sometimes

Sometimes u have cheat

Wcyd

[red nymph]

Go resto

[lofty depot]

Lol well u knew that before and didn't do it

So confusion

[red nymph]

But I didnt. Tried balance, still bugged. Tried guardian, RNG one shot. Tried resto, sat there while Alleria killed. I learned each pull

[lucid olive]

Resto is easier but guardian makes you feel like you did something

If you're doing as resto might as well go in LFG and find a group so it's 15 minutes faster

[hushed jetty]

Got all purples yesterday :d

[bitter hedge]

congratulations! :)

[hushed jetty]

Thanks!

[analog moat]

Holy shit you weren't kidding. Haven't played resto in like over a year, one shot it.

[red nymph]

No achieve

[ebon parcel]

in 2 target boss fights such as Vaelgor
do i still use starfall when there are no adds or still starsurge on 2 targets?

[red nymph]

Starfall

[craggy sonnet]

yeah, it was a lie from big sim

target swapping still better

unless you dont play goldrinn

[ebon parcel]

i have been starfallinh but compendium says starsurge?

[craggy sonnet]

this was the previous sim on the topic by @pallid bay just taking the default APL and modifying it.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wzSLt5X6sHMFv2bdvHJFLH

i just included a check to always surge the target with lowest stellar amp duration (though you might argue to not take stellar amp at all but that requires some more talent combination sims)
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/b7NAZmxnn2wjKG1QX9DTJd

[last breach]

so starfall > starsurge 2 targets?

[red nymph]

who tf gonna be thinking about this during the fight tho.

[craggy sonnet]

about what?

[red nymph]

steller amp and refresshing the lowest target each starsurge

shit like that is sooo impractical esp for people learning the class itself

sooo min max that has a greater chance of just being less damage if you mess up rather then just slamming starfall

[craggy sonnet]

im just giving you information. you can do with it whatever you want

(though i think the setup of that sim is not fair .. now that i look at it, it is straight up removing points .. so definitely need to run some talent combinations)

[lofty depot]

Before a week ago u would've surged, but now Starfall better on 2

[lofty depot]

Yes

[lofty depot]

Me

[lofty depot]

The surges he's talking about is weaver procs and right before surging on 2 was better by like 6% or aomething and u were just surge 1 of those targets. And then it was a 1% gain over that to surge both for amp.

It might be impractical for some. And plenty of people were slamming starfalls on dragons regardless

Some of us do minmax shit

There's all ways of life here

[craggy sonnet]

why is this talent combination sim taking meteor storm 💀

[lofty depot]

Lock in

I wonder if I take meteor storm for cosmos maybe droplets die faster we get amp faster

Take makes sense surely

[craggy sonnet]

AK probably only worth over it if there are consistently more targets (or them being spread) to require more than a single cast of mf/sf to upkeep and them living long enough as well

[lofty depot]

I've been casting Sunfire moonfire on morium during the 2nd interrupt cast

Reupping it at that time

But I'm not getting I'm not actually getting many starfalls sometimes :/ in that 10ish second window :/

Just slamming surges

[proper mica]

What talents yalls running for dragons

[craggy sonnet]

ok, so after actually applying fair talent combinations to these 2t options (including target swapping for stellar amp):
default starfall - cosmos starfall
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hgNMX7ozTiPtexmGZNcf3F
default starfall - cosmos surge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kRgYJPkPM7wmhhdPZ1v3Ze
default surge - cosmos starfall
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/j6Vee85KhjbFQX2bkDHWPx
default surge - cosmos surge
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1XztWBBrCW1EiM8mbyGCzg

it does indeed seem that starfall is quite handily ahead

[analog moat]

I thought meteorites was just terrible in every context, but it's ok on dragons?

[craggy sonnet]

yes

[lofty depot]

It's not terrible

It's terrible in context of spam casting surge vs starfall

Ur now casting Starfall at 2, so it looks better

[craggy sonnet]

and it is going to be even better in two weeks

on 2t+

[lofty depot]

Hellya

Is ptr live

[craggy sonnet]

think so

[lofty depot]

Wanna test it this weekend

[craggy sonnet]

test pressing starfall?

[lofty depot]

Ye

[dull dust]

[drifting nova]

whys the top dude on chim using it

[dull dust]

soon we remove all the pad from logs

[lucid olive]

what made you think that

meteorites is a very good 1 target talent if you press starfall a bunch

it just doesn't make sense to have a starfall talent that is only good on low target counts, but that doesn't mean it's a bad talent

[analog moat]

Eh, the other day I remember people talking about it. And that it doesn't proc from each hit like the tooltip says, only like once every 2 seconds or something.

[lucid olive]

yes

the tooltip doesn't say that it procs from every hit

it says it procs whenever Starfall deals damage

it just doesn't tell you anywhere how Starfall does damage

and Starfall tooltip says it calls down "waves of falling stars over 8 seconds"

it's a little confusing maybe but the wording for Meteorites is exactly what the talent does

[analog moat]

That's fair.

[lucid olive]

Starfall does its damage in waves and for each wave it's +1 proc on a random target

I assume Meteorites only proc on stuff in Starfall now instead of "any target regardless of combat state and range as long as you're targeting it"

like it did on beta

[twin lotus]

good change for meteorites

[lucid olive]

idk

not sure i agree

[twin lotus]

Was there a scenario where you would get meteorites over goldryns in ST?

[lucid olive]

look at current raid bosses

and then define ST for me in that scenario

[twin lotus]

yeah ...

[lucid olive]

is ST boss dmg on alleria and salhadaar

or is ST talents for beloren

cause those are vastly different

i think regardless of meteorites hitting 1 or 2 targets it can still hit shit like 99% DR'd adds on Imperator

or ball that's about to die on Salhadaar

maybe it's hitting NPCs on Vaelgor and nobody has realized

[twin lotus]

It's a bad talent overall, the change is imo towards a good direction

but very underwhelming talent

[lucid olive]

i disagree on it being a bad talent

make it proc on current target and it's a really good boss dmg talent

[twin lotus]

I am calling it bad in terms of how it feels.

It's not very satisfying to press starfall, and the talent doesnt help

[lucid olive]

i guess that's where we differ

i think pressing Starfall to fish for Starweaver procs is the single most fun thing I've done on this spec

since Dragonflight season 1

where I pressed Starfall to fish for Starweaver procs

I might be contrarian but if you read the developer note for why Meteorites is getting changed

[twin lotus]

as in using ur cosmos procs to get starweaver procs?

[lucid olive]

it's because the talent needed to "clarify Meteorite's role and how it works"

which they could have done by just writing a clearer tooltip

and maybe specifying Meteorites hitting your current target instead of piss random probably immune target

but the talent is being removed in 12.1 anyway so we only get this season to play it

it's going the same exact route as Lunar Shrapnel did

and the one before that and the one after that

[twin lotus]

what is it getting replaced with?

[lucid olive]

who knows

I am making shit up

but knowing how these things usually go

that talent is not meant for this world

even tho it's by far the best talent they've made to make Starweaver a viable option on ST cleave bosses

[dull dust]

wtf lying on the interwebs

[twin lotus]

starweaver is very fun though, I agree

[lucid olive]

Starweaver being fun is the reason it's taking me a while to figure out how to write a feedback post

[twin lotus]

I am just a bit bummed in M+ where I am playing KotG with rattle. Pop all CDs and spam 500 starfalls and dmg isnt even taht good

[lucid olive]

I am a big fan of the current version of the spec even though I know some people feel the exact opposite

so posting objective feedback is difficult

[dull dust]

I kinda want generators to generate more

10 wrath aint it chief

[lucid olive]

thats what i've been saying for months

but people freak out if you mention a talent that increases value of filler casts

[kindred sluice]

I would rather not all our damage be focus on spenders and give wrath and starfire more power back

[lucid olive]

okay i'm freaking out

[twin lotus]

Thats an extremely hot take Nights

lmao

[dull dust]

[lucid olive]

i can't say my true opinion on that take

auto mod will get me

I think the biggest thing that has to get changed is Hail of Stars, but providing that feedback to Blizzard is very scary since that talent is the only thing holding Starweaver up

[dull dust]

3x wrath ap Gen an lower its dmg and mabey spender dmg a bit

spec would feel 2x better

[lucid olive]

I really like having a talent that interacts with free spenders like Cosmos and Starweaver

but Hail of Stars giving Solstice duration is just a big gaping hole of dogshit

[dull dust]

well I guess starfall too

fire*

imagine if starfire wasn't a shit ass cast time

[lucid olive]

its not that easy tbh

you can take SOTF for more active AP gen

[dull dust]

isnt it tho

[lucid olive]

nobody is playing it

we've been through this route entirety of TWW

its really not that easy

[dull dust]

make sotf number bigger and they will

[lucid olive]

the talents that increase active AP gen are competing against a bunch of passive AP+dmg talents

astral communion, stellar amp, nature's balance, wild mushroom

celestial fire (idk why they made this talent)

shooting stars

solstice

[dull dust]

we could just delete like 10 talents

[lucid olive]

all passive AP gen talents that lower the value of filler casts

[dull dust]

and replace them with something interesting

[lucid olive]

yeah

and you can just go out and win the lottery

why be poor when you can just make money

right

same logic

[dull dust]

gamz is bullying me again

mods help

[lucid olive]

it's fun to think about like "oh if they changed this 1 little thing the spec would be better"

but its not that easy

also need to somehow maintain balance between talents

and that's where current moonkin is actually really good

not a lot of specs have the same amount of choice

moonkin players manage to paint that as a bad thing, but i think that's more of a comment on the community than the spec

[analog moat]

Anyone got a good plater profile tehy like? I'm using Jundies but it's kinda smalla nd hard to see the buffs.

[jaunty blaze]

you can also get jundies for platynator its easier to adjust to your liking there

[analog moat]

I'll give that a shot.

[dull dust]

I was laughing at rets the other day becauae they havnt used one of their hero talents since the system came out

boomkins almost always been able too so at least they got that goin for them

[twin lotus]

How does boomie have choices

[dull dust]

u can choose to tree or not to tree

and both are basicly fine

[wispy lake]

any advise? what stats priority you choose?any cap?

[lucid olive]

1 min convoke
2 min convoke with foe
2 min convoke with UE
incarn rattle keeper
incarn starweaver keeper with NB and no Kindling + Goldrinn
incarn starweaver keeper with NB and Kindling + Goldrinn
incarn starweaver keeper with NB and Kindling + Meteorites
EC rattle incarn ST
EC 5 second convoke full ST
EC rattle incarn M+
EC Starweaver incarn

how does it not have choice

heck even orbital strike has scenarios where its probably better

[dull dust]

me arcane run same build in raid dung open world delves pvp

[twin lotus]

Are people actually playing those? I've only played Incarn kotg and EC for vanguard

[lucid olive]

cause orbital strike in isolated scenario is bigger value

[twin lotus]

I am guessing convoke is the play for beloren, havent checked logs yet

[lucid olive]

all those incarn starweaver builds are being played in various degrees

[dull dust]

@lofty depot

[lucid olive]

and even if nobody was playing it that doesn't mean it's not a choice

[dull dust]

just means the fights that favor it dont exist

wcyd

[lucid olive]

people overestimate the value of talents

[dull dust]

7%!

show trees being 35%

[lucid olive]

probably gonna release this spreadsheet publically whenever the data is more relevant

[round field]

@sudden flame i see u

[hushed jetty]

Could someone explain how the free crest upgrade thing works on slots that have two items like trinkets and rings?

I thought upgrading one ring would mean the second ring would be free but that doesn't seem to be the case

[analog moat]

You need both slots to be at the level for example 3/6 hero. Then any future items you find in that slot get upgraded to 3/6 hero with gold.

It's for if you get a shitty piece that you want to replace, you can upgrade it and not worry about wasting crests when you find an upgrade.

[hushed jetty]

okay I understand, the double slots were confusing me a bit but it makes sense that you need both

[lucid olive]

for Weapons it also counts a two-hander as both slots

So if you upgrade a Staff you can upgrade both main hand + off hand for free

[hushed jetty]

Thats good to know, although my staff is crafted :p

working on the 80 hero crests right now

[lucid olive]

yeah, just good information to have anyway

[wispy lake]

what stats you will put in the craft stafft?

[analog moat]

Sim it but generally haste/mast

[sleek dirge]

if you can skip this part and jump to the 80 myth crests, it's a good amount of gold spare + big pew pew bonus.
you can get them from M+9 onward !

[hushed jetty]

I don't think I can get invited to +9 groups

Idk if they can see my mythic+ rating or if it's just my ilvl but anything above +6 is insta decline, or has been so far

Which is fair, I am a noob

[sleek dirge]

party leader can see both, yes. so that could be an explanation. keep pew pewing o7

[hushed jetty]

Will do

Although I am playing healer haha

Seems to get me more groups

[sleek dirge]

throw more grass in their faces !

[hushed jetty]

Lots of grass

[drifting nova]

another reason to delete crafting

[hushed jetty]

Is there a general priority in which to upgrade items? like if both my chest and my trinket are the right stats should I do chest first because I get more stats per crest?

[drifting nova]

jewellery

[sleek dirge]

yes. big stuff pieces : head, chest, legs give more intellect stats so give them a boost.
then medium size pieces such as boots, gloves
then small pieces : cloak, bracers
rings and neck don't give intellect, only endurance and secondary stats.
im not qualified to judge where that goes in the prio list, but big pieces go first for sure

[chilly python]

Stats over the rest, trinket is debatable

[hushed jetty]

understood thanks

[fickle pier]

optimal talents this tier change on nearly every boss

wym

most other specs are just running the same cleave spec on every boss except birb

[lofty depot]

Boomkin not in the bottom 4 cuz we got 1 defensive added

Who would've thought

(we got a stam buff too but none the fucking less)

[fickle pier]

tbf 3 of those specs are not being played at all so

[dull dust]

I was more point and laughing at mage

silly wizards

deserved amirite

im blending in

[fickle pier]

they can just go bear form if they want to live

[dull dust]

[sudden flame]

why are you playing brew?

[round field]

Im not

Im playing iqnidh

[lofty depot]

Boomkin is in the top half

So that doesn't matter

[lofty depot]

Nah we've asked for years for something

[craggy sonnet]

The big issue there being that you want the AP gen outside of eclipse to get back into eclipse. Since inside eclipse you are getting carried quite a bit by weaver

[dull dust]

still kinda feels like a slap to have to shift bear to get it still

[desert imp]

guys, i KoTG for mythic fights when add spawn do you still always stay in solar and spam wrath on main target while keeping dots/starfall on adds or go Lunar and cast Starfire to cleave better?

example like imperator fight

[ruby badger]

Adds die too fast on any mythic fight atm to use a full lunar eclipse

[lofty depot]

Yea, is what it is

[lofty depot]

The only fight I've gone lunar in is paladins

[dull dust]

least it lasts long enough u can preplanned it before a incarn if need

[lofty depot]

But yes he spamming wrath

[bleak junco]

Can i still be an elune moonkin if I want to

[lucid olive]

yeah

[bleak junco]

i see most people running kotg nowadays

I am wrath phobic

😛

[drifting nova]

good

they are ill

stay away

[drifting nova]

is there a convoke ec build yet

[lucid olive]

yeah there has been for weeks

[lofty depot]

It's fine to be wrong

[drifting nova]

for m+ or

raid

[lofty depot]

Well convoke is worse in m+....

But feel free to use it in ur +5

[drifting nova]

hear me roar

[lofty depot]

Holy is that ur pb?

Locken

[drifting nova]

idk like 2750 something last season

[lofty depot]

Guys I think 10s are too easy, even kekkers gonna be 3k

[drifting nova]

3k does not entertain my brain holes

2500 is it

moslty just wanted portals

look at this beautiful wep

cant be beaten

[lofty depot]

Yea except for u know crafting one dork

[drifting nova]

I do NOT craft

should know that by now

not getting a single hero wep is pretty weird tho

not even a mh/oh

dungeon loot pool stinks

[lofty depot]

I actually didn't

Ll

[drifting nova]

aside from the neck in df s1 but yeah no weps

crafting is cringe

[meager storm]

didnt know they actually banned u from logs

thats crazy

[royal zenith]

yeah better stop editing your logs dak

[true viper]

thats hilarious

[vital hound]

fkn owned

[shy knot]

Watched some vaelgor myth kills cause we gonna start tomorrow I'm a bit confused do we starfall the whole fight and just use surge in proccs?

[lofty depot]

u starfall

starfall got buffed

[slender island]

am i crazy or is stellar amp not trackable in cdm?

[lofty depot]

its not

[slender island]

wp blizz

[lofty depot]

not importnat

[slender island]

now that we starfall 2t, true

[fickle pier]

dreamgrove still says to surge but believe that to no longer be teh case

[shy knot]

Ok I missed that thing with 2t starfall. I'm a dud

[lofty depot]

gamz slow

[fickle pier]

[lucid olive]

i was right on time

[rose aspen]

@tired granite check the pins 👍

[tired granite]

fuck you

[lucid olive]

whats the context here

[dull dust]

idk but fuck you too

[wise scroll]

guys how do you consider balance rotation? specially compare to feral?

[dull dust]

I dont play feral i have standards

[drifting nova]

I dont play feral

[wise scroll]

why lol

[vital hound]

every class is literally the same

build -> spend

some have some dots thrown in

[dull dust]

is melee

[vital hound]

its all the same 4 buttons

[drifting nova]

it's a combo class

[vital hound]

https://tenor.com/bJJ0X.gif

[chilly python]

Easier you just press buttons

[wise scroll]

like all classes :p

[drifting nova]

cant remember the last time I saw a feral

[wise scroll]

is balance more viable for pve content? raid and m+

[normal pilot]

you're gonna have to explain what you mean by viable because every spec is viable

say what you're really looking for. easy pug, chart dps, or something else

[drifting nova]

neither are viable to title push

[wise scroll]

chart dps and competitive dps also easy pug. doing all content with pug

[normal pilot]

if you want to pug then balance. pugs are dumb and they'll pick balance even if feral is actually better

[drifting nova]

not like theyl know til you turn up

in cat form

[lucid olive]

talent into moonkin form so you can pretend youre a chicken until key has started

[drifting nova]

then they know you're a chicken

turn up as cat, pretend to be cat

better if in stealth

convinced a large percentage of players have dinosaur vision

they only see you when you move

or do the much easier route and use a toy

that changes appearance

[wise scroll]

lol

[timid rover]

Any tips for soloing Nullaeus as balance druid?

[normal pilot]

isn't it still bugged

[fossil hemlock]

Respec bear or resto

Yeah, should be

[lucid olive]

Valeera as tank if you can live the debuff (you probably cant)

[vital hound]

go resto

set valeera to dps

stand in corner and heal

[timid rover]

I was able to get past the third interrupt with pure dmg but then the poisonous bugs murdered me

[lucid olive]

<@&114146878353833984>

[meager storm]

REAL

[chilly python]

Am I wrong to forfeit trees and make my rotation easier by playing Elune in raids ? I know it's more punishing but I believe making mistakes would hinder my DPS more (I'm still learning so I will make mistakes)

[lofty depot]

i think ur overcomplicating it and should just learn how to play it

i feel like pressing trees with your ca isnt that hard

[wicked shuttle]

I think trees are much easier than EC in raid due to the globals attached to starfire

[chilly python]

What if I just dislike the solar eclipse

[lofty depot]

why do u dislike solar eclipse

[true viper]

Guys mr beast is giving away $10k to anyone who plays ec in single target

[lofty depot]

explain why 1 is different to the other in a raid i actively dont press lunar in

[chilly python]

0 use at all ?

[wicked shuttle]

I’ve never gone lunar in raid

Aside from council

[lofty depot]

correct

[vital hound]

owns on paladins

just ap flowin

[wicked shuttle]

Can’t relate. I’m afk in silver moon

[vital hound]

(me too)

[chilly python]

Need to learn what bosses do then. I expected needing to cleave once in a while and having actually balance between both eclipse

[lucid olive]

Should try EC Weaver on Paladins honestly

perma free globals

feels like BM hunter

[lofty depot]

if u cant hit 3 targets why are we doing into lunar

[lucid olive]

Its not just "use Lunar Eclipse whenever 3 targets are alive"

they should ideally live for a bit of Lunar duration + be in range to get cleaved from Starfire

and in raid that rarely happens so its safer to just enter Solar instead

unless youre on bosses where you can do prolonged cleave, like council bosses

[wispy lynx]

Hello, is there a guide to which items pref to craft for balance druid?

[lucid olive]

wowhead

gear page, scroll down and there is "late crafts" and "early crafts"

[fickle pier]

cleave in raid is building on the boss and then dropping 4 starfalls when adds spawn and continuing to wrath the boss

[lofty depot]

well i still want to know why he dislikes solar

[normal pilot]

maybe he thinks you need lunar to starfall

[spice roost]

because he couldnt think of another excuse

[normal pilot]

it's a common mistake ppl make

[lucid olive]

yeah i never understood that one

[normal pilot]

starfall is blue/white icon = lunar eclipse

[fickle pier]

10 years of having to cast two unempowered starfires in ST. They yearn for the useless, slow casts I guess

[unborn perch]

Basement dwellers shun the light

[chilly python]

Felt weaker and during leveling having an instant Starfire made me want to click lunar to increase it's damage

[fickle pier]

This is how little damage wrath and starfire do

[chilly python]

That was also a discovery they made it astral or whatever both empowered name it is

[chilly python]

That's good advice

[fickle pier]

ya spenders do the same damage in either eclipse

[normal pilot]

it is kind of badly explained

[fickle pier]

it is

[normal pilot]

or i guess just not explained at all

[fickle pier]

you aren't casting starfire in raid outside of paladins as EC, or your first filler after entering CA is a starfire because its instant and just hits harder than a wrath while you have both eclipses

[craggy sonnet]

wdym?! you cant deduct astral being both nature and arcane?

[lofty depot]

assumptions during leveling shouldnt be taken as gospel when at max

theres things u do at low level that u just dont at max

but yea assumption was that he thought lunar meant starfall

and why would u press starfall in solar cuz "im st-ing"

[dull dust]

because its good

make circle circle cool

[fickle pier]

most scenarios in raid where you're dumping starfalls, starfire would only hit like 2 targets anyways

anything that is actually stack cleave gets obliterated by prolapsing star

[manic plume]

hihi - seeing a few POVs and some people having trinkets on their CDM anyone know off hand which addon that is?

[dull dust]

people are just making click threw action bars with elv or whatever and showing them there

afaik

[craggy sonnet]

nah

a lot of cdm addons can do this

all of the popular ones in fact (i believe)

[craggy sonnet]

are you currently using any of them already?

[manic plume]

Yeah using BCDM - trying to find the setting right now

maybe I didn't look hard nuff idk lol

[craggy sonnet]

there is an extra tab for Trinket

[manic plume]

yeah when I select it the frame doesn't update -

nvm the fuckin trinket is in narnia

[craggy sonnet]

ggs

[manic plume]

ty ty

[craggy sonnet]

yw

[fair pasture]

ok i got 80 myth crest do i recraft my hero 272 staff to mythic, or do i make mythic gloves and get arcanoweave

i couldnt get a dps number for arcanoweave on sim thingy

[craggy sonnet]

weapon should be the biggest upgrade (though you could have tried not to invest hero crests into crafting your staff initially, since these are just "wasted" now)

[fair pasture]

yeah

[craggy sonnet]

should be able to sim arcanoweave, you can right-click the item in the selection thing and add an embellishment

but im not sure how it handles the ally buff per default

[fair pasture]

its cause i have random non crafted ones rn and it doesnt let me add an embellishment to them

i figure it out

[plucky forge]

yo guys what are we pref for high keys i thought starweaver is the only way to go with that tier set, now i see some Rattle the Stars enjoyer what are we pref.

[wild dune]

vibes

starweaver makes buttons shiny and keeps mental engaged

thus is better pick

[lucid olive]

real

they should buff starweaver

[chilly escarp]

wow head says to craft that loa worshippers ring is that thing actually any good?

[lucid olive]

it says to craft wrists and offhand

the loa worshippers band is just as a 3rd option there

[dull dust]

hope they buff convoke

by 30%

[lofty depot]

shut up

[dull dust]

wtf

[chilly escarp]

its cause i have a myth weapon and off hand so should i not go to the 3rd option?

[wild dune]

mods remove his orange

[lucid olive]

did you already craft an offhand

or do you have a myth one

can probably just do 2x arcanoweave lining too

on your off-tier slot + belt/wrists or something

if you have both myth track main hand and off-hand

[chilly escarp]

yea i have myth weapon and OH

[craggy sonnet]

ah, you can add the crafted ones when searching for them in this box

[lofty depot]

so u should then use top gear and see what items are best to craft

[lucid olive]

mmhm mmhm

[lofty depot]

👀

[dull dust]

ok here me out

[lofty depot]

no

[lucid olive]

hereing you out

[dull dust]

what if convoke did 10 spells per target

all in 2 seconds

[chilly escarp]

yea I just figured id throw the question about that ring, cause i didnt know if it was bait like how some people say the darkmoon cards are bait

[lofty depot]

it would be op

[dull dust]

good

[lucid olive]

what if convoke was a 12 second cooldown and 2 second channel that did a flurry of 6 starsurges

[dull dust]

and it would look cool as shit

[lucid olive]

so you enter eclipse and convoke each time

no skill needed

insta stacks your starlord

insta spends your apex talent

no thinking needed

[dull dust]

perfection

[lofty depot]

so u mean void ray that stacks souls for u isntantly

hmm

now were talking

[lucid olive]

and what if starfire was castable while moving

[lofty depot]

....

[lucid olive]

and every 50 targets hit by starfire let you throw a big full moon

[dull dust]

but not wrath

[lofty depot]

why does mage get scorch thats 1s cast while moving

and we get 2s cast while moving

remember when lightning bolt was cast while moving

[dull dust]

because it's useless until execute

[lofty depot]

so not useless

k

[lucid olive]

remember how mad mages were when they had to hard cast pyroblast

[dull dust]

[lofty depot]

dont most fire mages like skb

im confused

[dull dust]

I like skb

gamz is a liar

[lucid olive]

meanwhile i was praying to my familys ancestors multiple times per night casting full moon during smolderon intermission

[lofty depot]

gamz non knower

smolderon mention

wooooooooooo

[dull dust]

smolderon was the simplest hard boss ever I think

that guy farmed guilds while having like 2 mechanics

[lucid olive]

@meager storm

[dull dust]

dont stand in shit win

soak somtimes

[lucid olive]

the discipline you needed to have to not spend AP for like 30 seconds waiting so you could have Pulsar in the intermission

crazy

thats why they removed pulsar

i see it now

its all Dak's fault

[dull dust]

need to blame arctic too somehow

get the 2 for 1

[lofty depot]

skill issue u could spend and then get it back 5 seconds in

then u would bait orbs at the edge of platform

[fossil shard]

agree

[lofty depot]

what the

[dull dust]

u must duel

[meager storm]

sorry

[fossil shard]

fuck pulsar, you know what i miss?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/315975622335660032/1491853764536172574/image0.gif

[lucid olive]

real

[delicate perch]

granted but 9/10 of them are rake

[dull dust]

ngl raking 50t is still p good

[loud kettle]

what if convoke didnt have a cooldown

[dull dust]

convoke just a 1hour long channel spell

recastable

[loud kettle]

and your rotation was just spamming convoke

and maybe pressing funny other cd buttons

maybe add a talent that makes starsurge consume all available ap and scales its damage with ap spent

[carmine vigil]

this spec is too hard for me

[loud kettle]

tune it just high enough where its 0.1% dps gain to starsurge instead of convoke when at max asp

[carmine vigil]

can some1 suggest an easy spec to play?

[dull dust]

aug

your time is now

[lucid olive]

devourer

[lofty depot]

DEVDH

[wintry umbra]

seems too hard for the dev dh in my guild /s

[meager storm]

dwilkz is a devourer hater

i have tried to convince him but he says he will be playing aug instead

smh

[lucid olive]

crazy behaviour

[meager storm]

then he will see the 20% devourer buff on .5

and he will start lvling one

W

[meager storm]

i remember the gap that night

[lofty depot]

idk what im doing and doing like 130k+ in m+

idk

shits teletubby ez

[meager storm]

devourer is the most fun i have had in keys since s4 boomy

[lofty depot]

^^

playing a completely different game

[meager storm]

like i only do 3k on the first week to just get easy pugs every tier, i actually went for 3.3k the first 2 weeks or whatever

then i got bored of pugging

[wintry umbra]

lol if they could consistently do half that in raid we'd have cleared heroic a week ago

[wild dune]

theres like big tech to get to 5th/6th star right

[meager storm]

so i just do 10s again

[wild dune]

thats where ur giga damage is

[meager storm]

yeah its called proc a soul immo

[lofty depot]

essentially me

[wild dune]

idk how the spec works mine is like 88

[lofty depot]

give me freidns to push

surely

[meager storm]

for st 5 stars is pretty standard i can get 5 stars now without lust or pi on st

[wild dune]

every ddh i pug with has been suss

[meager storm]

with my current haste

on m+ u can get 8 pretty sure

i think i got 8 once

[wild dune]

jeepers

how big that hit

[meager storm]

giga

[wild dune]

how big a star can you slam into corewarden

the big dmg amp boss in xena

[meager storm]

only 1.1 mil

on seat u can get like a 2 milly

but check alleria

without pot or trinket on p1

[wild dune]

insane how a 3 button spec can deliver such dopamine

[meager storm]

3.5mil eradicate

nothing to see here

552k ticks of voidray

W

W spec and its getting buffed

let me check recruities surges

surely they hit hard

[dull dust]

holy

large individual

[spice roost]

is it literaly a 20% buff wtf

[meager storm]

its like 5% on st

but on aoe since its uncapped

idk man

for sure over 10%

[wild dune]

what's happening with devo in .5?

[wild dune]

ohh

ok blissard chill

[prisma pulsar]

curious to know what others talent builds lookin like for m+ seen a bit of diversity amongst rio keys

[analog moat]

Think the EC talent build on dreamgrove is the common one.

[stark meteor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/L8t7QcH4X9KfJPym?fight=4&type=damage-done

[lofty depot]

dont think so

[stark meteor]

are these guys just cracked out of their minds (obviously) or is this simply the consequence of having an aug evoker in your party

[lofty depot]

well the logs takes damage away fro mu

and gives to aug

[stark meteor]

cracked out of their minds 📝

[lofty depot]

but yea ur not gonna see a consensus of build for a few more weeks

[wild dune]

Starweaver

[peak flume]

is their a way to understand the rotation. i don't get it at all ?

[stark meteor]

what about it doesn't click (and what content are you doing right now, m+ or raids or other stuff)?

[peak flume]

@stark meteor pretty much all of it. like am i meant to be tracking eclipse phases and im currently doing m+

[stark meteor]

the dreamgrove guide is pretty solid, i would follow https://www.dreamgrove.gg/blog/balance/compendium elune's chosen aoe as far as your rotation goes

[lofty depot]

i would go look at some boomkins UI and see what theyre tracking if ur not

theres plenty of things to track

[versed hawk]

Do you always hold tigers fury (and berserk) until 14 seconds on frantic frenzy

[meager storm]

yes

[delicate perch]

yep sure (wrong channel)

[leaden seal]

has kotg raid build changed at all since the start of the expansion

[versed hawk]

Sorry

[lofty depot]

uhhh depends what u mean

many people played convoke on normal/heroic

its not played until prob belo'ren on mythic

[fair pasture]

How many years has boomkin had an interrupt with a cooldown this long

Alternate question: what are the chances I wake up tomorrow and we have counterspell instead of solar beam

[wild dune]

quite literally zero

[fair pasture]

Ok what about... Three days

[urban bloom]

very new boomie, are we not using wrath at all if we're playing the M+ tree?

[red nymph]

only in ST outside of eclipse situations really

[willow thicket]

guys, is there a tank whose gameplay is similar to balance druid?
aka 2 buttons and super chill

[red nymph]

i think this ^ guy is missing something

[brave gulch]

balance druid is a dps spec friend

lowkey just bear though

press thrash and if 👍

[spice roost]

also balance is not 2 buttons

[willow thicket]

ik bro

[spice roost]

you siad 2 buttons

[willow thicket]

how's bear nowadays? Im gonna start getting some feral gear so might try it eventually ig

[willow thicket]

sarcasm