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drifting nova
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I didnt even understand the line in english

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so

lofty depot
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With better words

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Maybe it translate better

drifting nova
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gpt tier sentence

lofty depot
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Mmhm mmhm

craggy sonnet
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kekkers sucht dich

jolly delta
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indeed he does

obsidian fjord
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how did you understand that

drifting nova
eager raft
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kekkers #1 balance chatter

royal zenith
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he does look for a lot of dich ye

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typical kekkers

jolly delta
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@eager raft you ignored me

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i feel sad

eager raft
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WHEN

jolly delta
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when i tagged you

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in my moonkin tier list

eager raft
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Oh I actually remember watching that idk why I didn’t reply

jolly delta
royal zenith
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yeah explain that respectable

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how ironic

eager raft
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I was wondering why csh wasn’t in the top 5

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but wasn’t sure how to ask

jolly delta
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maybe i should remove

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fire from top 1

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maybe it's now F tier......

royal zenith
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add respectable to the list

drifting nova
royal zenith
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but make it like swamp tier

jolly delta
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kek

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he is tier 1

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thats why I tagged him

royal zenith
pseudo drum
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Bomker de raid deserves an Oscar or whatever

lofty depot
pseudo drum
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Outstanding performance

eager raft
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that screenshot is my magnum opus

drifting nova
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you can write?

eager raft
# jolly delta fire from top 1

please no I actually love it I don’t remember what I was doing the first time I watched it but my TikTok brain stopped paying attention

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I liked and subscribed and hit the bell to get notifications

lofty depot
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But didn't comment

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Smh

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Engagement down

jolly delta
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didnt like either

royal zenith
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lying and ignoring

lofty depot
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He said likes

jolly delta
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nvm he did

royal zenith
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he's ramping

jolly delta
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youtube not updating

royal zenith
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next he'll steal your lockout vinter

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be careful

jolly delta
hollow sandal
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is kotg still the best raid spec?

royal zenith
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depends on what boss

hollow sandal
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huge

royal zenith
jaunty blaze
charred mango
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and one day guilds 😎

lofty depot
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👀

charred mango
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all these people that want to speedrun the season til they can raid log but they don’t know about only raiding on Saturday afternoons

lofty depot
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Might try to find a weekend guild to play my dh on

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Maybe fun

obsidian fjord
charred mango
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come raid with me and sang, we only have one dh anyway

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although idk if your dh’s name can compete with Salty Pnut

royal zenith
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2d high ranked > all

lofty depot
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Well I said I liked mercing and one of my other raiders said he used to do it, so we might try to do together, but he's playing ret

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Melee, silly

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But see how it goes

chrome root
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So probably a stupid question but does ca give the damage buff the eclipse usage does?

charred mango
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melee are silly it’s true

lofty depot
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Yes, but also both eclipses, and CA buff which is 10% haste

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Incarn give 10% crit or something

charred mango
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I did have my dh as devourer for like 3 days because melee are silly but I got real tired of interrupting stars and switched back to havoc

lofty depot
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What the

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Stop canceling

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(it's kinda crazy tho)

charred mango
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I got knocked back 😠

lofty depot
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Like learning when u can

charred mango
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mhm

lofty depot
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... The vorasius knock?

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Gonna start a holy war I swear

charred mango
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no I didn’t get as far as raiding on it lol

drifting nova
lofty depot
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Little tiny knocks man

charred mango
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I only maintain balance and ele seriously

lofty depot
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I have my split boomkin, but I also have my devdh

charred mango
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my shaman is like 272 tho, gaming

lofty depot
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And I'm doing keys and shit... My devdh got giga

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Vaelgors from tw box, tier from LFR completed 4p

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Fuggn 2nd bamkin in the dirt

charred mango
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shaman had 4set before my main because we didn’t get any leather tokens in the first two weeks

lofty depot
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Ayo same

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This week we got 3 leather tokens on mythoc

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Locken

sour venture
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So we getting buffed or what

lofty depot
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We got buffed

drifting nova
charred mango
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and then got a feather from first m+ vault

lofty depot
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What more u need?mm

drifting nova
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(the shittest buff)

sour venture
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Sheeeeit

drifting nova
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still dont do aoe damage

lofty depot
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Shit??

sour venture
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We the meta now?

lofty depot
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What the helly

sour venture
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Daaang

lofty depot
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Yea we back

drifting nova
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BUFF STARFIRE, COWARDS

sour venture
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Chicken pride worldwide

lofty depot
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Midnight falls a boomkin boss

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They nerfed it cuz we were gonna be too good on it

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Mmhm mmhm

charred mango
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I don’t wanna do saladbar this week other than to get to dragons

lofty depot
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?

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Why

drifting nova
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the first 3bosses just fall over no?

lofty depot
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Also, our CDs are cringe JK I understand

charred mango
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lol yeah

lofty depot
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Just save CDs instead of sending in amp

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Silly

charred mango
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timings on that boss haven’t clicked with me

lofty depot
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Lorrgs ezpz

charred mango
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gotta make my hands press the buttons when lorrgs says to

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old dog new tricks etc

drifting nova
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chicken not dog

charred mango
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use saptor salve toy

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saptors are dogs I don’t make the rules

drifting nova
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dogs are bipedal

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got it

lofty depot
charred mango
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thank u I appreciate

lofty depot
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Mmhm mmmhm

charred mango
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(we also still have to kill vorasius but we had a few enrage wipes last week so I’m not worried)

lofty depot
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1 boomkin or

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Big add dam

charred mango
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ya I’ve been our only moonkin for a long time

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even though we have three druids

dire osprey
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i was just sending on CD to pad on balls

charred mango
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it’s a shitty amp at a shitty time

dire osprey
charred mango
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like 25% at 1:45 when he spins

dire osprey
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only 25?

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during movement?

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yea fk that im gonna keep padding

lofty depot
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Lol big gamer

dire osprey
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cant let these shadow priest and warlock egos get too big

lofty depot
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Mmhm mmhm

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Show them their place

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In the dirt

charred mango
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it does line up with control convoke

lofty depot
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It lines up with incarn too

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U just need to press buttons faster

charred mango
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true

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just need to proc more surges

inner plover
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I kinda dislike "casino druid" in Raid 😄 you just hope for procs and even its too much shit to pay attention to

charred mango
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wha

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compared to DRE ele we do not have a casino spec lol

inner plover
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idk you proc: Free starsurge, Free starfall or combination... kinda too much for same abilities

charred mango
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reacting to procs dynamically is not the same as “sometimes I’ll do triple my usual dps because I didn’t drop ascendance for a full boss fight” imo

cobalt junco
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am i stupid? why dont we play metorites in m+?

normal pilot
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meteorites is a single target talent

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the tooltip as always is stupidly written

cobalt junco
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so what does it do exactly sorry?

red nymph
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every time a wave of starfall damage goes out, one target in that area gets hit by a meteorite

cobalt junco
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yikes thats terrible

red nymph
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does anyone know if wild surges asp gen only applies to primary target or splash damage as well

normal pilot
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ap generation has nothing to do with what you hit

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you get it when you cast the spell

shut dew
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Hey, is it worth to craft ring right now?
It's simming better then everything else that I could craft SilvervaleSits

jaunty blaze
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mind linking the sim

lofty depot
jaunty blaze
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droptimizer doesnt add an embellishment to your crafts

shut dew
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ah I see

lofty depot
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That's 2.56%

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Big numby

long wagon
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Hey, can anyone tell me what the exact up/downside of playing new moon is?

lofty depot
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Downside, That ur playing new moon

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Upside, none

craggy sonnet
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exact please

long wagon
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fair, always liked the visual and it is mentioned in the compendium as an option but i guess i stay with my trusted orbital lazer

minor condor
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Which talents do u guys sim for simming whats best to equip in raid

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incarn or convoke?

lofty depot
lofty depot
lost grove
lofty depot
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Answer what I said

minor condor
long wagon
lofty depot
minor condor
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Nah nothing like that, forexample, when i sim in pure st build it wants me to equip Beloren ring, which leaves me with basicly no haste, and 1k crit, and only 800 mastery, i asume this is not the best for most of the bosses, since u'd like to starweave when adds are upo

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which makes haste more valueble

lucid olive
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crit very good

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look apex talent

lofty depot
long wagon
minor condor
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Yeah, but when u play incarn, and adds are spawning, id asume u want some haste no? like basicly no build on the bosses is the convoek build, that one i can see u dont want as much haste

junior plaza
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If you are going to play incarn build and you want to know what gear from raid is best for that build you should know how to do your droptimizer?

lofty depot
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Mmhm mmhm

dense steeple
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OPTIONAL?

lucid olive
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technically

chilly coral
lucid olive
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good trinket

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also why are we simming 10 targets 1 minute

chilly coral
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Big dam

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can it really be true its better tho

lucid olive
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damagemaxxing on first pull of the key

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yeah crucible very good trinket

chilly coral
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u know it

lucid olive
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your other options are all dogshit too

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also you can upgrade your crucible to 263 for free since you have 2 trinkets at 263 or higher

chilly coral
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ye i know i can upgrade, but i just blew my mind

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Whats the best way to sim for m+?

lofty depot
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need the buffs

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granted thats content u wouldve been doing already

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also fix that thanks

normal pilot
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idk if you can even sim m+ atm maybe in the future

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stuff like 10t1m is prolly worse than just vibing

drifting nova
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I'm getting scammed

lucid olive
drifting nova
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smart

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tank racked up 20deaths first pull of seat

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thought it was bricked, turns out the timer is giga forgiving

charred mango
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I do all my keys with people I know so I can inform the tank that the pull isn’t big enough as I’m moonfiring extras

drifting nova
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still hate that dungeon

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not a fan of bosses b2b

chilly coral
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so no recomends for simming m+? Hows the dungoen slice thing

drifting nova
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bad

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do not use

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5t5min is the goto I think

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idk

lucid olive
lucid olive
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stats don't change anything noteworthy with new targets + the APL is not optimized outside of ST + most dmg in m+ is single target anyway

craggy sonnet
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previously the one thing dungeonroute cared for is usually a tad more haste than what you'd get in st patchwerk

drifting nova
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speaking of do people not link routes anymore

craggy sonnet
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other than that probably doesnt matter much

drifting nova
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is that dead

craggy sonnet
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unless you want to cook talents based on sims which might not be a good idea

rough flax
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btw is locus really better than gaze, cuz no matter what I sim. gaze is always higher value am i missing a setting in the sim for locus trinket ?

charred mango
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gaze is bad unless you have the addon to mute it

drifting nova
charred mango
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it’s so LOUD

upper anvil
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Gaze isnt that loud imo

lucid olive
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bad trinket

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pick up orbs

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yuck

drifting nova
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VerySadCat mythic wasted

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thought yesterday surely theres no way its a useless item

normal pilot
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just be better and pick up orbs

round field
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When will u learn

normal pilot
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there's huge upsides if you can

round field
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To stop thinking

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@drifting nova if you were to take an iq test you would get a grey log

scenic dune
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Hi, I need a bit of guidance. Today I opened my vault — there are two Haste + Mastery myth tier staves in there.
I currently have a crafted 285 staff myself.
Is it worth taking one of those and upgrading it, or should I just not choose any of the items?

Thanks in advance ^^

exotic perch
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is everything else in the vault bad

lofty depot
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no

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therse a sockey in there

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mmhm mmhm

lucid olive
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I would take the staff

round field
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Socket bad

lucid olive
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next craft is next week

exotic perch
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yeah personally if nothing else is good take the staff

round field
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I thought craft was this week

lofty depot
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nah its next

charred mango
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7 sparks this week

lofty depot
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along with cata charge

round field
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What the

scenic dune
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the haste crit wrists sim the highest - but I do have vet wrists equipped

round field
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I had 5 last week

charred mango
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6 natty + world tour

round field
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Whats a world tour

charred mango
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istg it is unreal how many people don’t read their quests lol

lucid olive
royal zenith
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blizzard does a terrible job at guiding players

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dont blame them

charred mango
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no

round field
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Is it the one that u have to do all the events?

lucid olive
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if its an alt and you finished campaign on mine then talk to Soridormi in the Inn and then talk to Lorthemar

charred mango
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I blame them

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eyes affix

round field
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But

royal zenith
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it's the same as gearing up

round field
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How would i know it goes above cap???

lucid olive
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you wouldnt

royal zenith
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^

round field
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My currency said 5/5

royal zenith
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you can't

round field
lucid olive
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but you have played every season since sparks and crests became a thing

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and a single uncapped spark has been guaranteed every season

charred mango
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^

lucid olive
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its just usually been "hey you got 1 spark here let me give you another" quest instead of the world tour

round field
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I dont remember it being uncapped

royal zenith
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the keyword here is it being uncapped

lucid olive
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always was

royal zenith
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same as some crests being uncapped

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the game doesn't tell you

lucid olive
round field
charred mango
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not being against cap is fair ig

round field
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I got a spark and i got quest pop

lucid olive
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yeah that quest doesnt give you a spark

charred mango
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I had multiple guildies not know the quest gave a spark at all and made a weapon a week late

round field
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Oh does it not

royal zenith
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uncapped is cringe either way

lucid olive
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its just a quest to make sure you know what sparks and catalyst is

round field
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Thats dumb

royal zenith
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why have a cap if there is uncapped shit

lucid olive
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who knows

royal zenith
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like what's the purpose

lucid olive
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feels better for players when something is uncapped

charred mango
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free stuff!

royal zenith
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especially casuals, who the game is mainly for, will never know

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nor care

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0.1%'ers in here

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MC's

charred mango
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but ya with four tiers in a row of starting the season with an extra spark from some sort of quest

royal zenith
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That's a dumb take

charred mango
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I figure people should at least wonder where it is

royal zenith
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it should be clear for anyone starting at any point

lucid olive
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also don't the crests actually say they ignore the cap

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or

exotic perch
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yeah it only matters if you play bunch of alts

lucid olive
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the crests you trade down specify it in tooltip

royal zenith
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"yeah if you played this game for 20 years, you would* know about this!"

lucid olive
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there is also more than 1 way to get that uncapped spark

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the world tour is just the most popular one

proper mica
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Any one feel like boomie struggles in key pugs. I never seem to have CDs when the tank decides to pull

zinc forge
royal zenith
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meanwhile people perma happy with larias his checklist

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cause the game is so easy to understand right

charred mango
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not arguing that the game explains things well, just that I do expect more people who’ve played consistently to at least be like “hm I didn’t get this thing I have been getting, wonder if it’s available”

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maybe I should lower that

round field
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idk i saw the quest and i was like

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i cba

royal zenith
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It's fine

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at some point people just don't want to understand the point

lucid olive
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you can do some PVP and get the extra spark from there instead

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don't need all the world tour events

royal zenith
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would it be easier if the game says you are at 6/7 sparks or is it easier if the game tells you you're 6/6 sparks (just one is a secret)

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thonking

lucid olive
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6/7 sparks

round field
royal zenith
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:)

proper mica
royal zenith
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can't say I agree with that

lofty depot
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Says 3/3 but then u have 1 in bag

royal zenith
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but pull size matters

lofty depot
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Then u have to tell people to stop looking at currency cuz it lies

royal zenith
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yeah it's the same as tooltips

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like why are we defending insanely bad communication in this game

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anyway it's w.e. just wow things

lofty depot
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I have 10 uncapped myth crests I can't use

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Cuz ?? Gave 30 and not 20 or 40

lucid olive
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literally thats what i did

lofty depot
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Is it 10 down or

lucid olive
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my hero and myth crests were both at an odd number

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so traded 10 myth for 10 hero

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now both numbers are even

lofty depot
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Hmm

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I have 0 hero so that doesn't help me lol

lucid olive
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gg

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i probably missed some uncapped crests from somewhere

lofty depot
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Ye

royal zenith
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maybe they should add fun legendary items to chase instead of uncapped crap

lofty depot
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👀

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Like a legendary warglaive

sudden flame
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you should have 50 uncapped myth crests i believe

lucid olive
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or like a legendary where you can choose what powers you want

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and one of the powers is every 600 astral power spent grants CA

lofty depot
lucid olive
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also why tf does savage have orange name

lofty depot
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Ferals got a lot of regulars

lucid olive
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guy is just mimicing chancel and clankz at this point

sudden flame
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Boomkins been getting to many regulars lately

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so we had to balance the numbers

lofty depot
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U don't play balance

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How can u balance them

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Smh

royal zenith
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I know who brought Savage forward

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so Im cool with it

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:3

lofty depot
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Probably spy that rat

lucid olive
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should give me mod so I can veto all these cats..

royal zenith
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every channel has its own eco system

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stay away

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power hungry freak!!

normal pilot
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you can't veto cats that's like picking on the homeless after blizzard abandoned them

lofty depot
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Just start throwing funny feral sims out again

sudden flame
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you changed....

fair pasture
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i was in feral chatt the other day and yall were just viciously slandering us

lofty depot
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As they do

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U should ask them about their uptime

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That usually hits well

fair pasture
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ill keep that one in my back pocket

lofty depot
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Mmhm mmhm

lucid olive
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and people said "he's that moonkin guy fuck moonkins"

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not fun anymore showing appreciation for people who don't show it back

lofty depot
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Should go look at their convoke timings to see which ones are trolling

lucid olive
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i think spec loyalty and spec tribalism is the single most cringe shit in the WoW community

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i would rather be in a room with 100 wowhead housing hater commenters than a room with 10 people who's only personality trait is the spec they play in a video game

lofty depot
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Don't u have like 5 of those 10 in ur guild and ur one

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Silly guy

lucid olive
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not really

fair pasture
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D :

lofty depot
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(context I'm spewing on a 2 hour drive in some.cornfield)

fair pasture
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i dont like when mommy and daddy moonkin are fighting

lofty depot
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Who's mommy

digital berry
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Feral channel is a scary place fr fr

fair pasture
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not sure you two would have to figure that out

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it can be daddy^2moonkin if u want

lofty depot
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Think double peen means double dad

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Could be wrong

fair pasture
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owldads i dont like when you fight

brave gulch
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@lucid olive hi

lucid olive
brave gulch
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ITS NOT MY FAULT

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blame the mods man

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I cant do anything

lucid olive
lofty depot
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Hmm, phased why are we double boomkining cosmos

fair pasture
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max said yesterday "moonkin are great but we already have hotw buff from guardian"

craggy sonnet
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if only voulk could remember the last time phased was helpful

brave gulch
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we realised that spec stinks

digital berry
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Listening to max’s opinion on balance Druids is not the brightest idea

lofty depot
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What the

lofty depot
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That spec blasts maybe theyr playing wrong

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I'll review

lucid olive
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phased orange and me purple

brave gulch
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is it actually good on cosmos

lucid olive
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and DG is saved

brave gulch
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we were having p1 add damage problems

lofty depot
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Have they considered doing add damage

brave gulch
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idk

lucid olive
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for P1 i think its kinda piss

royal zenith
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well they get told to starfall in the class discord

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so yeah

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thoughts?

lucid olive
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it doesn't do anything amazingly well compared to other specs

lofty depot
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Yea maybe they're not running good talents silly

brave gulch
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its tettles he is the one doing the telling

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but yeah idk they're alright I guess

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nothing crazy

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mages carry first add, warlocks 2nd I think? and dks third

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moonkins just exist

royal zenith
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do you know how much dk's sim ST

lucid olive
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moonkin is an average boss dmg merchant on that fight

digital berry
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Thats kinda been the unfortunate state of balance for years

royal zenith
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only 116k+

lucid olive
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and need to do some cringe positioning things on alleria as well

craggy sonnet
lucid olive
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possibility of some really shit baits

royal zenith
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what are you basing your opinion on?

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cause that's not what I'm seeing in logs

drifting nova
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the real question is why aoe is booty

lucid olive
drifting nova
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but st is less so

red nymph
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moonkins are omega OP according to everyone that isnt a moonkin or RWF

lucid olive
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bottom overall dmg

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middle boss dmg

royal zenith
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I think this is extremely fair for boss damage

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I dunno?

lofty depot
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That's good no?

drifting nova
sudden flame
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man how do i get to that high ilvl

royal zenith
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by getting loot funneled

lofty depot
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Farm keys surely

royal zenith
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what else

lofty depot
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Get 1-2 items from raid

royal zenith
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276 is pretty easy to reach

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278+ is hard

craggy sonnet
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20 splits

lucid olive
brave gulch
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im 278 WICKED

digital berry
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I have a grand total of 0 myth pieces from raid as it stands

royal zenith
lucid olive
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with boss dmg merchant I mean dmg after p1 and not to the 3 adds

lofty depot
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I'm 278 and took sockey from vault

sudden flame
#

no mythic weapon dropped so im completely down bad

royal zenith
#

okay then yeah, you should be more specific

lucid olive
#

well I don't consider the 3 adds in p1 bosses

royal zenith
lucid olive
#

even tho they technically are

royal zenith
#

is part of the conversation

lofty depot
#

Better than frost mage

#

Locken

lucid olive
royal zenith
lofty depot
#

Better than those padding mms

royal zenith
#

LOL

lucid olive
#

and how much p1 dmg is from the bosses they are not actively killing

royal zenith
#

you made the statement their boss damage is bad

lucid olive
#

no i said it was middle

#

or, average

dense steeple
#

high key think i got baited

#

i put on gaze of alnseer

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and my dps went down

#

in every boss

royal zenith
#

I think damage wise it's pretty fine

#

BUT

brave gulch
#

very average

lofty depot
#

Have u considered u are playing wrong

royal zenith
#

balance druid lacks a ton of 'good' damage

lucid olive
red nymph
#

Is there something different with logs now? I feel like in past tiers they are really fast in filtering for adds that people pad on, like the small adds on alleria and the adds on drags

lucid olive
#

average

royal zenith
#

it does feel like everything is just pad

dense steeple
#

you tellin me i played correct last week and played incorrect this week arctic?

brave gulch
#

bring back venthyr

royal zenith
#

yeah

brave gulch
#

3 starsurges to just one shot an add with damage amp

royal zenith
#

please

brave gulch
#

fuck it

digital berry
#

Well in that screenshot pretty much everyone is within 3/5% of each other no? That’s kinda… a good place to be at

royal zenith
#

did they have to pop coolies into rift, phased?

craggy sonnet
dense steeple
#

look at deux rippin slurs

lucid olive
rocky flame
#

boomy is doing better than feral in raid quit whining

brave gulch
#

uhh im not sure

lofty depot
digital berry
royal zenith
dense steeple
#

im not talking parse %

lofty depot
#

What u talking about

dense steeple
lucid olive
#

talkin bout practice

dense steeple
#

my damage went down

royal zenith
lofty depot
#

See gear fed last week

dense steeple
#

doing the same thing i did last week

royal zenith
#

I know that's weird for ferals

digital berry
#

What fight is that

royal zenith
#

:)

dense steeple
#

chim

rocky flame
#

yeah ur right

digital berry
#

Yeah well

lofty depot
#

R u first group or

dense steeple
#

where i save my CDs for adds every time

digital berry
#

More ilvl on everyone means adds implode

royal zenith
dense steeple
#

i was first group last week

lofty depot
#

Bet this guy is playing wrong

royal zenith
#

did arctic tell you to do that?

#

bahahhaha

rocky flame
#

saving cds for adds

#

jesus christ

dense steeple
royal zenith
#

what did I say

dense steeple
digital berry
#

Ain’t parsing anything past blue without lining cds with adds tho, if you’re on farm who cares

royal zenith
#

if that's a slur then sorry? I guess I was not aware

lofty depot
#

What u mean who cares

#

What the helly

dense steeple
#

yeah thats a slur

digital berry
#

Boss dead either way

royal zenith
#

but in the context you would definitely understand it's cooldowns

dense steeple
#

||my wife yelled at me about it last month||

rocky flame
#

i parsed a 97 sending cds on boss everytime

lofty depot
#

Fuggn green parse andy

royal zenith
#

so you linking it to a slur is on you

rocky flame
#

just saying

lucid olive
#

oh damn it is a slur

#

i didn't know about that one

red nymph
dense steeple
#

based

royal zenith
#

americans..

rocky flame
#

yea fucking americans

digital berry
red nymph
#

fucking non americans

#

everything is just coke

royal zenith
#

please dont

rocky flame
#

i mean i pugged it so idk

royal zenith
#

dont want to spoil our genetics

lofty depot
rocky flame
#

i don’t raid i just pugged and got alnseer

lucid olive
#

even sodapoppin killed that boss

#

he got hof actually

rocky flame
#

my grandpa could’ve got HoF chim

royal zenith
#

once guilds figure out the skip last intermission part..

lucid olive
#

sodapoppin parsed a 69 on chimaerus

royal zenith
#

giving 1 boss raids hof achievements was a mistake

#

unless it was actually like a

#

600 pull boss

lucid olive
#

did you catch the guy in here the other day when i mentioned some chimaerus strat my guild did

digital berry
dense steeple
#

today i figured out that chimaerus shouldnt have been released until this week

#

lore wise

lucid olive
#

"the boss is easy you don't need that"
-> wr 1200 guild pulled it 60 times for hof

royal zenith
#

60 times gollum

#

I mean, it's good that it's killable

#

for a lot of guilds

#

but yeah hof achievement bit lame

lucid olive
#

yeah i agree

dense steeple
#

my guild didnt even bother attempting to kill it for hof because we knew it was a fake hof

lucid olive
#

my guild killed that boss 3 times in like 20 pulls

dense steeple
#

took us 27 🙁

royal zenith
#

okay so we're still getting 1 more raid right?

lucid olive
#

yeah

royal zenith
#

or am I misremembering something

lucid olive
#

Sporefall

royal zenith
#

yeah...

#

when is that even?

lucid olive
#

in 0.7 patch

#

so uuuh

#

11 weeks?

#

give and take

royal zenith
lucid olive
#

it's 2 resets I think until 0.5

dense steeple
#

hall of fame sporefall Pog

lucid olive
#

and then 8 weeks from 0.5 to 0.7

lofty depot
#

But the trinkets in vault

royal zenith
#

I do think having a mid-patch raid is kinda fun

#

unironically

lucid olive
#

depends on the tuning target

#

but yeah i agree

royal zenith
#

fair point

lucid olive
#

You can see when 0.5 releases when you enter the raids btw, that "blahblah will come with aid" or whatever isn't part of the game files yet

#

but they are on PTR

#

so its logical to assume the 0.5 patch drops whenever that kicks in

#

would also keep up with their 8 week patch cadence

royal zenith
#

OH gamz

#

what do you use to track trinkets

#

or is it baked into elvui

craggy sonnet
#

you can add them in most cdm addons, or?

#

what are you using

royal zenith
#

`really? Imma try that

#

bcdm and arcui

lofty depot
#

Bcdm has it

royal zenith
#

I have not researched it at all, so I'm being ignorant

craggy sonnet
#

bcdm has extra tab for trinket tracking

lofty depot
#

He uses ayijes

royal zenith
#

check

craggy sonnet
#

arcui also has it in the arc auras tab i think

lofty depot
#

But yea can add any custom buffs aswell in bcdm

#

Pots, health stone

royal zenith
lofty depot
#

Mmhm mmhm

craggy sonnet
#

oh bcdm menu changed?

lofty depot
#

Ye

craggy sonnet
#

or is that ayije

royal zenith
#

nam menu changed

#

nah *

#

used to be at the top

#

now everything on le left

#

they cleaned it up quite a bit but

craggy sonnet
#

ye

royal zenith
#

I don't care too much after Ive set it up

#

so can't say if it's better

craggy sonnet
#

ye, was just surprised cause it looked diff

#

than i last saw it

misty tundra
#

does the rule for starfall change now given the buff? still on +3 only or do we do for +2 now?

lofty depot
#

It's 2 now

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

Cosmos Starfall aswell

royal zenith
#

fixed it with bcdm Wicked

lucid olive
#

Yeah, all the CDM add-ons basically do the same shit now

#

Some do a little more but imo it's cringe setup for little payoff

river galleon
#

Hello guys. I have one question. I see current top 50 balance druids for m+ and they're actually split between hero talent we choose. Can someone of u say something about this more?

lucid olive
#

Like EQOL letting you use the default spell overlays from the game files by tying it to an active buff from the CDM, that is very cool that you can do but it's pain to set up + hidden behind bunch of random settings so it's hard to find

lofty depot
#

I forgot

royal zenith
#

is the question about hero talents

#

or just explaining those talents

lofty depot
#

I think incarn one is better burst

lucid olive
#

that particular choice node

lucid olive
misty tundra
lofty depot
#

Is tails

lucid olive
#

ah gg

lofty depot
#

Ezp

royal zenith
#

let's apply m+

#

logic

carmine acorn
#

anything changed in our m+ build with this week's buffs?

lucid olive
#

coinflip is m+ logic

lofty depot
#

Ok so it was tails, so u then go fury of elune

lucid olive
royal zenith
#

smaller shorter pulls you go foe

lofty depot
#

Mmhm mmhm

royal zenith
#

bigger pulls and sustain you go 'Astral insight'

#

thoughts??

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

X for doubt

lucid olive
#

thats probably best takeaway from it

lofty depot
#

Think the foe talent gives more sustain cuz it increase ur damage by 6% more surely

lucid olive
#

but maybe a lot of people are taking Astral Insight because the other one is untakeable on Paladins and they just zone into dungeons with the same talents

lofty depot
#

Shrug

royal zenith
#

I dont think that's the definition of sustain arctic!!

lucid olive
#

like the opposite direction of when you saw a lot of people had Remove Corruption on Soul Hunters last tier

#

they just zoned into that fight with m+ talents

royal zenith
#

Im gonna play AK on chimmy hc

#

for fun

lucid olive
#

maybe some people just zone into m+ with Paladins talent

normal pilot
#

light of elune is rppm so astral insight shoudl be better if you have longer gap between pulls

#

and light of elune better if you has less gaps and can stay in combat longer

royal zenith
#

the reversed

river galleon
#

Ok i lost coin-flip, coin stays in the middle. Does it mean i have to play without one hero talent? @lucid olive

royal zenith
#

do it..

lucid olive
#

remember to reroll the coin every time you enter a new m+ group..

#

only wao to achieve true talent enlightenment

pseudo merlin
#

@royal zenith league delayed to june

royal zenith
#

shut up..

#

not truths!!

drifting nova
#

ravec would never tell a porky

craggy sonnet
normal pilot
#

nah they fixed that in... bfa?

craggy sonnet
#

ah

normal pilot
#

used to be able to bank up big procs for the initial burst on pulls but not anymore

craggy sonnet
#

(was just semi recently confronted with that in fellowship .. there it starts counting with the first trigger action and then continues all the way)

#

so you get more bias towards proccing at the start of pulls

#

after the first

normal pilot
#

ya blizz just doesn't like compounding player power

#

make it too hard on devs

craggy sonnet
#

just wasnt sure how it actually works in wow

#

not too invested in either direction

normal pilot
#

it used to prolly where fellowship guys based their design on

#

it's certainly a lot more fun

craggy sonnet
#

but to get back to that choice node .. i think astral insight sims decently better in st and burst is usually the better profile in m+ as well .. sooo

lucid olive
#

so what you're saying is to just flip a coin

#

factually correct response

lofty depot
#

Hmm doesn't fit my narrative

plush oracle
#

Hey, do we starfall on 2 targets now with the buff or still not worth it ?

lofty depot
#

2t yes

plush oracle
#

Thanks

dense steeple
#

@pseudo merlin god is punishing me

lofty depot
#

For ur bad parse or

pseudo merlin
#

scrape it off buddy

dense steeple
drifting nova
#

healthiest popsicle

earnest ermine
#

last expansion i had a weak aura that made a sound and icon pop up if a mob was enraged and sootheable. is their anything in the game like that now?

lucid olive
#

no

#

you can see it on nameplates using nameplate addons but no visual cue for it

earnest ermine
#

i hate this game now

lucid olive
#

if you were to make an addon have an audio cue for it you would probably have to hard code it to play a sound whenever any buff is active

#

no way to differentiate between enrage or magic buff (or any other buff) on nameplate afaik

earnest ermine
#

thank you for answer

ionic oak
digital berry
lucid olive
#

surely not

ionic oak
#

Its never too late for him to start

lucid olive
#

arctic doesn't spread misinfo he just shares the misinfo he gets from me

ionic oak
#

I like that.

lofty depot
#

Locken

#

Oops I didn't reply to him

lofty depot
mint plover
#

Hey i just wanted to know if like balance druid gets better with ilevel cause right now at low ilevel i feel both useless and non existent

lofty depot
#

Much like every class, yes it does

ionic oak
lofty depot
#

If ur 20 ilvls behind someone in keys, ur gonna do bad

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

It's also, not always about ilvl

lucid olive
#

that guy you can probably beat..

lofty depot
#

Nah

#

U wouldn't say that to my face

wheat crown
#

EC Sims higher for me then KOTG - yet every druid i see on logs is running Kotg

#

is that normal ?

lofty depot
#

Yes

#

Imagine trying to cast a 2s button and then u have to move

mint plover
lofty depot
#

Something might sim better, but in practicality it's bad

lofty depot
normal pilot
#

balance is always worse than bear for that, ilevel doesn't matter

#

higher ilevel makes it feel better but it'll always be behind bear

wheat crown
#

ii thought keeper would still lose to EC in the raid since there is no true ST only fight

#

this tier

mint plover
#

maybe balance isn't for my dopamine brain

lofty depot
#

It's better for most add problems in fights

#

I doubt we ever play EC substantially in raid

#

Until they make Starfire faster or something

round field
chilly coral
#

Locus walker or hearth of the wind with Vaelgors final stare for m+?

thorn nebula
#

Lmfao I was wondering why I had a notification for this channel 😂
I did sandbag crests quite a bit until this week. Also was extremely unlucky with ring drops in general. Finally got the rings from nexus to drop though which was pretty significant boost

#

Maybe geared a bit too much, they gave mythic dragon trinket to someone else again this week 😭

mild frigate
#

im reading the pendium for boomie and looking on raiderio some top runs only put one talent point into the new apex talent and put the rest into something else...is that only for extremly high keys? since trash packs live so long

normal pilot
#

no those sites are most likely wrong

normal pilot
#

i don't htink wcl can properly detect talents

lofty depot
mild frigate
fair pasture
#

anyone know what addon thd and some other people used to track food buffs and stuff

delicate perch
fair pasture
#

shows up as an icon if u dont have the buff

delicate perch
#

You might find you have 3 points left to put in smilers

lucid olive
fair pasture
#

ty

#

also anyone know any good optimization settings for fps during raid, i have all my stuff in game set to very low, but in raid i get sub 20 fps sometimes

#

especially bad off the pull

#

if lusting

charred mango
#

are you raiding with 30 people

fair pasture
#

its really bad in LFR, but its also a problem in 20 man heroic

charred mango
#

mm

fair pasture
#

like paladins is super bad

lucid olive
charred mango
#

yeah have heard a lot of people complain about frame rate on paladins

lucid olive
#

it's on ElvUI github but not related to ElvUI at all

spice roost
#

march is worse

lucid olive
#

just generally good graphic settings

spice roost
#

for fps

fair pasture
#

tyvm

willow thicket
#

has anyone asked today/yesterday if the buffs change any talent choices for elune m+?

lucid olive
#

if you're using ElvUI though you should look into getting a profile with more optimized aura settings cause a lot of ElvUI lag is caused by public bad profiles

willow thicket
#

oh this is gamz

#

dude...

#

I got whistle on AA13 today

#

and my healer has it aswell, can the trinket procs be double dipped?

lucid olive
willow thicket
#

I noticed I can give assign the trinket to 1 person, and the healer can assign it to me, but idk if this actually gives more procs

fair pasture
lucid olive
lucid olive
#

i keep changing small stuff in the ayijecdm profile but i don't think i've pushed an update for a few weeks

willow thicket
#

this is the trinket proc, https://www.wowhead.com/spell=383799/time-to-shine
Is it possible to somehow track it ingame without weakauras? Im not sure how it'd have to be done

lucid olive
#

for graphic and game settings I just install the LuckyoneUI addon and press the button to import all of Lucky's settings and then disable the addon after

lucid olive
#

need to look at your buff bar

fair pasture
#

while vaguely on the topic, what are your keybinds xD ive just been thinking about best way to optimize mine lately

willow thicket
#

ill do it in dummies later

lucid olive
#

i use razer naga with 6 side buttons

fair pasture
#

yeah im just curious what other ppl use

lucid olive
#

i wouldn't look at my keybinds for anything

#

there are some general rules you can follow with keybinds

#

like the core rotational buttons should all somewhat make sense

#

sunfire/moonfire/wrath/starfire/starsurge/starfall

willow thicket
#

Im gonna test the double whistle stuff whenever possible and then type here if I find anythin interesting

lofty depot
willow thicket
#

you want my schizo keybinds?

lofty depot
#

No

willow thicket
#

nice

fair pasture
#

1 starfall 2 wrath 3 sunfire 4 moonfire 5 starfall f starsurge q incarn r eclipse z force shift+v convoke/foe v solar beam g health potion shift g lock rock

#

i swap wrath and starfall for EC

lofty depot
#

Why do u have Starfall twice

fair pasture
#

because all the spells are the same damn name

lofty depot
#

What u mean u swap wrath and Starfall.......

#

Can we locken

fair pasture
#

fucking

#

these ones lol

#

why is my image all whack

lofty depot
#

Discord dying

willow thicket
#

same here

fair pasture
#

starfire and wrath

#

starfall is on 5

#

and it hurts my wrist lately so mostly i wanna put that somewhere else

lofty depot
#

Yea 5 is beans

#

It goes on V

fair pasture
#

no thats interrupt button noooo

lofty depot
#

No that's q

fair pasture
#

omg noooo

lofty depot
#

Incarn is c

#

Mmhm mmhm

clever vigil
#

interrupt is g for Get beamed idiot

lofty depot
#

Ele shaman refuge is back

#

Smh

clever vigil
#

What the hell

lofty depot
#

Allo mister silly

clever vigil
#

someone has to be the mastery buff 🥀

lofty depot
#

Real

willow thicket
#

is this adept the twitter guy and also mythic raider

lofty depot
#

Boomkin gets buffed and he's relegated to being a different buff

lofty depot
#

But yea the twitter guy

clever vigil
#

world first raider

willow thicket
#

yea he posts funny sometimes its nice to see

clever vigil
#

thanks man

lofty depot
#

He posts some cringe egirl shit, mostly not funny

clever vigil
#

this guys my biggest hater

lofty depot
#

He also gets relegated to the worst CD timings actively

#

Tragic really

clever vigil
#

sometimes it be like that

lofty depot
#

Pray for my boy on lura

clever vigil
#

im funny all the time tho u got me fucked up

#

l’uras about to be a movie

lofty depot
#

W.e. u say mister silly

#

R u shaman on that too?

clever vigil
#

but ele shaman belo’ren is on the menu first despairge

#

idts but u never know

lofty depot
#

Plays ele when they nerf aug

#

Tragic really

clever vigil
#

they made beloren harder so i have to actually do damage

lofty depot
#

I believe in you

lucid olive
#

can't use it

#

I know some crazy individual who has Starfall on Shift-G though

clever vigil
#

you only have to press it once a minute g is perfect

lucid olive
#

my kick button is always on 4

clever vigil
#

thats sunfire

lofty depot
#

Yea that guy timed me out for fun a few hours ago

lucid olive
#

no Sunfire is on 1

lofty depot
#

Little rat

clever vigil
#

that’s wrath

lucid olive
#

thats 2

clever vigil
#

moonfire

lucid olive
#

thats R

lofty depot
#

R is FOR SURE NOT MOONFIRE

clever vigil
#

the artist formerly known as stellar flare

lucid olive
lofty depot
#

it's sure as shit not flare

#

When they let people out of the insane asylum

#

Shits insane man

clever vigil
#

Tf is wrong with flare on r

clever vigil
lucid olive
#

blasting..

clever vigil
#

my eclipse is on f4 tho were basically twins Pleading

lucid olive
#

the F keys are mouse buttons

clever vigil
#

ye same

digital berry
#

i feel like mine are acceptable

lucid olive
#

basically only the middle ones are dmg stuff

lucid olive
#

mb4 and mb5 are movement and defensives

lofty depot
#

Fuck

clever vigil
#

its the mouse button where my thumb is resting

#

ez press

willow thicket
#

3k rating certified binds

lucid olive
#

whats ur middle mouse

lofty depot
willow thicket
#

extra action button

lucid olive
#

idk why but i always had middle mouse as big dmg cooldown press

lofty depot
#

Holy fuck get out

clever vigil
#

i dont have anything to middle mouse click but shift up/down are roar and dash

lucid olive
#

shift up/down is gateway shard

clever vigil
#

thats ctrl+tab

willow thicket
clever vigil
#

i have jump bound to scroll wheel down

willow thicket
#

bunnyhopping on cs binds

lucid olive
#

surprisingly there hasnt been any episodes of accidentally pressing middle mouse button when doing shift+scroll wheel for gateway..

clever vigil
willow thicket
#

these work perfectly for me but proper mmo mouses are kinda goated seemingly

dull dust
#

better then mine

royal zenith
#

who proc'd adept

#

was it chancel

lucid olive
#

wdym procced

#

he's here every day

#

adept the dreamgrove regular

royal zenith
#

sussy??

fair pasture
#

or tank cds

#

currently i have regrowth on shift scroll dwn and ursols on shift scroll up

royal zenith
#

that is a cursed button to press

#

for a major cd

fair pasture
#

nah its really comfortable

royal zenith
#

it's obv the beam-button