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a legendary man?

get heckin laser blasted to shits
there's no way it's not a legendary glaive right
oh right...
fucking new spec
Legendary intellect glaive
its gonna be a sword so the mages dont feel left out 
don't glaives auto swap primary
But you have to do 4 weeks of random dogshit weeklies to finish it
HGELLO
I CANT USE SWORDS
And spend 300k on AH for mats
youre not a mage, unlucky

Yeah but this one is legendary..
IS that the legendary effect?
It just doesnt swap
actually i bet it's not a glaive
IT does nothing else
2 sword that splits into glaives
extra action button just blasts the little shitters in a cone?
anduin gives us his sword
2h**
they havent pressed the EAB yet?
Yeah it's sick
am I blind
Yeah they did
The voidlings crawled towards them and Yipz just smacked em with the hammer
wake of ashes
that
🙂

Mained that spec for the past 4 years
the moment I stop
it's in RWF and not worthless dogshit
that ret ability 
this game is unreal
So when is boomkin gonna show up
reclear
Best I can do is main it again and make it worse
we already represented in the boss ability icons
first secret phase mechanic lura splits into 20 with shared hp
1m convoke so u get 2 uses in amp
gotta be good enough
And all spread
I hope illidan comes threw the ceiling with a rage boner and murders the windchime at the end
With just a single spot of light in the middle with only room for 1 person
is energy bar enrage or is this just an intermission

The secret secret phase is being ported back in time and having to do the whole fight again
Yeah you now get xalatath to spawn a bunch of balls you need to soak
and every time you soak
you need to get dispelled
and the dispell puts a slow on you
Bro you dont get it
The secret phase ports you to shadowlands
And you have to do torghast
To save sylvanas

It's a mushroom creature in Harandar
I thought it was heroic
gamz trolling or
Raid is called Sporefall I think?
ah ok
No lol they already announced that shit weeks ago
I really hope they do one raid per patch
raidslop
take a mob make it big put it in an arena
lmao the dmg meter
is AI writing those articles
New Raids in Patch 12.0.7 and Patch 12.0.5
The first raid, coming in Patch 12.0.7
wait
Ribbon or Gaze?
it says first raid in .7
but there's 1 in .7 and .5
oh what vinter s aid
what

also i had no idea there was two
oh no hold on
the second one is 12.1.5
legendary agi glaive 
put her back in the dagger
just +60% to PL

@dull dust
We all know if anything it’d be a dh leggo
It's gonna be an agi staff
huge
yea
actually when was the last caster legendary
And multiple week timegate
cata iirc
ew man evoker doesn't count
think all dps casters can use ya
600k
and it took
12 weeks to get
just simply don't get it early
I’m so broke I don’t even know how to make money in this damn game
cost me like 150k on alt
took me 1 lfr run
boost?


10s sell for 70k
From the collective ?
Does devourer or deveatation work
idk but fuck em
Sheeeesh
nah fuck collective
Yea evoker was brand new and got a Lego staff
So naturally warglaive is the legendary
Oo that's gonna suck when people double crafted warglaives
Wasted sparks smh
Real
devourer cant use dagger, they can use fist/mace/swords tho

I do


i still dont have evoker or paladin lego
@dull dust i lied devourer can use daggers too
even login screen knows whats up lol
i gotta level them and get them ilvl before i can solo

you know who else uses daggers?

i lied again, i was on my boomy when i checked if i could wear daggers
devourer doesnt use daggers
they can use axes tho
for some reason they cant use daggers like what
maybe since its the first tier and they want all the new casuals to enjoy it they make it like some legendary boots or something
but im hoping for glaive or int weapon

would be funny if it was a int mace
Ha liquid seen secret phase since they got there the first time
Why is this fuck still alive
echo will win this
btw i love ur trinket
Yeah once I think
big ass beam u gotta kite
last phase is cinema
Lura just Kamehamehas
and you gotta run
while EABing the ads
and spreading kyveza
giggety
500% dmg amp so it's basically 20% of the boss HP you gotta do while kiting big ass beam and using extra action button on mobs coming
yeah the hard part now
is figuring out like 2% more dmg before then
cause they need to not get that 2nd cast at the end of the fight
my favorite part is how we get to watch a different boss than we will ever play
whats that mean
i love your trinket
witth like 5 people yeah
why are we stalking

?
I wish it were mine
i trolled my vault and got a mythic trinket
the extra action button kills the animals walking towards u, theres a big ass targeted laser u gotta astro run from
It was a bad vault for me
astro
@delicate perch U get anything good from vault
anyone know how to show friendly names only in raid I see it on some streams

next week for sure...
hbu
nah
Question - Should you continue to SF/SS even when not in eclipse or wait to be in eclipse then build up SL?
not sure what sl is but u only use spenders outside of solar or luner to not cap ap otherwise build u still spend procs though for cosmos and starweaver
Starlord
Sf/ss to not overcap correct, since you won’t be able to achieve much more then 70/75% eclipse uptime
You can also use asp for movement ofc outside of eclipses
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lmfao
can't wait for the day claude makes Max obsolete
wont be long
In aoe do you spam all astral power on star fall? Does the damage stack if I cast multiple back to back
with ec is getting an extra incarn with lust or stare more value
yeah it does just slam it
p sure as long as its with the 2nd foe its fine
butif you are playing convoke you should hold it
looking at it for m pally prog, some people are using 2 with lust on 2nd foe but you lose a incarn+trinket combo later if you do that other people are holding 2nd incarn for 1.5 idk what sim says is better
so now that the secret phase is known, they can totally nerf this boss so we can see more of it 😄
im holding 3rd incarn cuz theres a soak at 2m
so u just bing chill til after
ye thats what ive been doing too seems to work out just wasnt sure about 2nd
do yall use haste flask or mastery for keys? curious
theyre not different tbf
I'm a new druid this season, used to play hunter. I've managed to tank up to +9 keys no issue as tank but I'm struggling in heroic raids as I have to dps. Would I be better off as balance or feral? Which is easier?
They are both easy afaik
I've run balance mostly the past 2 weeks but I'm parsing low 30s on boomy
have u read the guide
feral prolly easier now + you don't need extra weapon
Hello everyone
hello
Would anyone be able to look at a fight log and tell me what I'm doing wrong on balance?
have u considered adding ilvl to the box or
Well you need to type an ilvl
You could send it here
post it dawg
@lofty depot ec and trees have different statst right?
first and foremost
Not in any seriously meaningful way
shit am i stupid and read wrong im doing haste mastery atm
You do what the robot tells you to do
true
Sim yourself and you’ll be fine
i am simming
So it should be 3 wrath then dots then pop eclipse/incarn?
wats feral stats like? mebe i just ferales
No clue I’m not a degenerate
oof to ferals
I know I need the more gems and enchants. Was waiting on heroic gear plus the weapon enchant is 30k
Tbh enchants and gems are so fucking pricey right now
Also I'm having the balance feral crisis so I've been hesitant to commit lol
EC
uh
tabarnak
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idk random testing shit
Which fight was that? I will work on better use of starsurge vs starfall
are we using base cd tracker for eclipse uptime?
why rnt u sending any surges after those
idk ur jsut afk full asp for 10 seconds
i use the icon in cdm yes
ok ty
I wanna say I was out of place for the march coming through maybe?
Oh right, no clue then
Yeah gotcha. Not sure why I would have froze up. Maybe this week I'll try to use archon to record
man, why did they remove renewal
Vanguard fight, i have 5k hps, a warrior has 17k, lock has 15k
Bear is nice to avoid one-shots but our overall tankiness is gigagarbage
I guess with kotg and two points on the talent we can perma have 16% healing taken increase
could be worse
m+ are we starfalling on 2 targets or starsurging?
Anyone willing to help a fellow boomy out and review my logs for heroic crown. I have watched many rotation videos, and I know the mechs well, but I am parsing very low. Would love some help as I am very new to the spec. Thank you! https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/moon-guard/jalenpumpson?boss=3181
@lofty depot will get to it asap
from next reset starfalling B-)
Im interested in this too, feels like I do my rotation correct but still very low on damage https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/area-52/ericuno tried simming on raidbots for boss and dungeons but dungeons option says it's not supported for balance anymore.
there is a delve sim? 
I used to use it, many years ago, how do you sim dungeons now?
When should I be using both charges of Eclipse?
I've been kidna slamming them off CD where it makes sense to to keep up with its uptime but is there merit to delaying it in specific cirucmstances where required (like for damage buffs if Incarn isn't ready)?
Currently got Vaelgores Final Stare, do people always hold it for incarnation or do you sometimes slam it with an eclipse to use it off cd as much as possible?
always with incarn
I delay mine a little if I have nothing of high prio and I'm riding out the Starlord buff from my previous eclipse
Other than that I find it's usually more to do with the fight rather than my rotation if I want to delay an eclipse
upon entering eclipse (solar or lunar) does spending your 3x spenders and getting 3 stacks of starlord have priority over casting fury of elune? and does this prio depend on whether youre playing EC or KOTG?
in most circumstances you should probably have pressed FoE before eclipse if possible
but you probably just press it unless you'd overcap ap
thought fury of elune was pressed only before incarn, but during normal eclipse
but thank you
hmm, why?
anyways
this seems the kind of shit I would've created fake ads for
during april 1st

Hello friends! As someone who's really enjoying Balance right now, what's the best to take/learn? Ellune's or Keeper of the Grove? I've always used Ellune's as it seems a bit more simpler. But, Keeper seems good too.
If you want to just casually play then feel free to play either. Take a look at Wowhead, Tettles' yt video, play a bit around
not sure, maybe just my misinterpretation
probably because i misinterpreted this
Once you're more comfortable with the class take a look at dreamgrove.gg
KOTG is for sure slightly more complicated to play but it's also pretty much the only viable tree in raids
If you want to play optimally
OMG thank you! I'll read that site.
evne though i know these are rotational details, i thought that you would use fury of elune during lunar eclipse and only before incarn
I was thinking about using KOTG, it might be a bit more complicated, but I think it's a good idea to learn it now than later as I'm just question in Open World and such
Yeah that is slightly incorrect
But
It's also difficult to convey the nuance of it
Without bloating the prio list too much
yes of course, i completely understand you but thats why i came here to ask and make sure 😄
Generally speaking you can use it the global before - or up to a few globals after - any eclipse
but dont i lose dmg since im not in an eclipse?
after you pressed eclipse, not after it ended
aaaa right
sorry, cant read lol
so generally speaking before an eclipse i send FoE and then focus on spending my spenders and building those 3x starlord
and from there just the generic rotation
Eh, using FoE on the global before Incarn is optimal if you have both available, if not then just default to sending FoE off cd
it's about delaying incarn until after FoE rather than delaying FoE until before incarn?
Unless you happen to not have Lunation talented, then you just send to upkeep Atmospheric Exposure before using Eclipse/Incarn
Yeah basically
Incarn with EC has only trinket as anchor, other than that you can send CDs on where you feel like it's needed
So you kinda want it to line up with a fresh FoE
so what this means, if im interpreting it right, is to send FoE on CD until it lines up to be the global before incarn?
My understanding was send FoE on CD and shift your eclipses/Incarn around to arrive at the "FoE right before eclipse" goal, but I am not a pro
Just don't overthink it
It's good to have dmg buff from Atmos Exposure in Incarn but you shouldn't hold either spell if it means a bad line-up in the fight
keep in mind that by trying to minmax the timings too much you risk wasting foe (and or damage in general)
absolutely, thank you everyone, always a lovely informative chat in here
consider also playing a bit around with the planner
i never knew of this, much obliged
If we craft weapon with hunter embellishment, what’s a good second embellishment piece?
TIl there's an actual opening for the rotation and that I've been palyign it wrong
if you play sundered firmament, you have atmos expsure during incarn anyways
though i still dont have any clue if we play lunation or not
Omg I'm such a scrub actually. MFW I've been doing Moonfire > Sunfire > Purification Beam > Incarn > spend
you mean missing the precasts .. or?
Nah like, the first few seconds after the precasts
subtle but effective
Because WowHead does 3x Wrath precast > Moonfire > Sunfire > Eclipse > Surge > FoE > CDs
I've effectively skipped the Eclipse and the Surges
And went straight into 3x Wrath > Moonfire > Sunfire > FoE > CDs
ah, well .. ye

i thought this wasnt recommended in the guides anymore
but going into ecl and spending all three apex stacks on spenders and then building again for the foe incarn is technically better
It's supposed to be taken out? 
uhhm





some spells
their hardest hitting spell has full moon length cast time
and goes on like a 5 sec cd if you cancel it accidentally
coping
Bamkin really is good guys, trust me!!

what the fuck is this graphic on me for beloren/bird boss
it made me think i was light feather
But ur purple
my first time doing it on normal
Did u watch a video prior
i thought i was in lightmode just looking kinda purple because of boomie form
i heard ab out this but idk where to find the import
Rle presumably in the channel
this channel?
Just google m33kauras github
its first hit
man those top guilds cooking addons that are basically weakauras
but we cant have ui
I was watching a high key balance video and saw this kick timer. Anyone know what it is?
i can get m33kauras no probs its the import for the WA to track the feather that i need
probably on nsrt addon somewhere
I think MiniCC is the most used one for this now
but it is incredibly inconsistent unless all party members are using it
so I wouldn't really use it unless you're in an organized group
i guess you could use it if you enjoy the extra visual noise on your screen though
Hi guys, do you know how I can import my DungeonRoutes from MDT ? I had plenty errors in it. Can I use Patchwerk with 5+ boss 1min ?
You can't export SimC strings from the MDT addon anymore since Weakauras don't exist
Damn, Im stupid aha
You can however make a route (or import a route string from the MDT addon) on keystone.guru website
and then choose the simulate option on keystone.guru and then copy the strings into the right expert mode part on raidbots
It is currently not recommended to sim dungeonroute at all though since the AoE APL is lacking, you're better off just slamming 1 target 5 minute Patchwerk
Thanks for your advices ! I'll keep running patchwerk then
Oh okay, that's unfortunate. Nothing worse than using solar beam same time as someone else's kick
yeah, and if only you had the addon and somebody overlapped a kick with you it would only show the CD of the guy that kicked
since it refreshes on the "interrupted - charactername" event on the nameplate cast bar
but if someone else also has the addon it refreshes on them pressing the button and then communicates it to other addons somehow through chat message workarounds
not 100% sure on how they make them communicate with each other but i think it's something like that
Well it's for padding on adds
its for funnel
use 1 mushroom on pull to get it on CD and then slam all 3 charges on the voidorbs
thats 60 AP in 3 instant casts
so you want to put it just before adds targetting the boss ?
yeah crazy
and then full starfall ?
are your adds getting mass gripped
Yes
pool AP before the mechanic starts, and when the circles start you treants+incarn and dump starfall, then target the orb that the other orbs are getting gripped to
and just slam all 3 charges
ok i see ... i have to be fast
not fast, just decisive and confident
also need to Wild Charge out of the tether that happens right as the voidorbs get gripped
but you can use instant casts during Wild Charge animation so it shouldn't lose you any uptime
ok ! Just got difficulties sometimes to target adds to be honnest buttt you are right just need to be decisive
thank you very much ! 🙂
glad they clearly succeeded with the purge
grr blizzard bad
That's what I said
Me when i lie to my raid leader
@lucid olive is total eclipse this bad that noone uses? or the other node just better?
dogshit talent
Anyone use AyijeCDM and notice it doesn't show procs correctly all the time?
Starweaver procs sometimes don't show at all (but I can see the buff, just the bar doesnt glow)
The instant cast on eclipse also sometimes only shows Starsurge but not wrath as well.
Hey where is the best place to see balance rotations for raid and M+ also for talent trees
compendium in pins
Thank u 🙏🏽
addons won the war on addons
His discord is linked on his Curseforge page
should go ask in there
I haven't had that issue at all so I suspect there is something wrong on your end
Hey guys. 🙂 guardian Druid here, tired of tanking high keys and I’m trying to learn balance, but, I’m so inconsistent. I feel like I have the rotation down , but I’m just not doing the numbers. 268ilvl and still 60k on single target and around 100k on 5 enemy packs, maybe a little more dps If a little more is pulled. But I can’t help but feel like I’m missing something here. Using incarnation and elunes fury, not convoke or the little trees lol. Is there a way to log mythic runs and post them so someone intelligent can tell me I’m dumb? 🤣🤣🤣
Warcraft logs will log a dungeon run for you. That said I'm not sure anyone here is looking at more than boss logs. I'm in a similar boat, 270 ilevel but am only doing like 84k overall and it's really depressing.
Yeah, like my overall on 10’s is like in the 80’s
And I don’t feel like I’m missing anything. I’m sure I can smack fury of elune off CD better cause sometimes it does sit for a second or 2, but not a long time?
I just watched an insta video of a girl on a +15 hitting 850k in the big AA pull and I’m like. Wow. I do 120k there
real quick did you have a good hard look at the compendium?
10s, stuiff is dying quickly enough you won't burst that high.
yeah i mean, you're definitely doing something wrong doing 120k on first pull of algethar
And also what you have in the group.
I checked out the rotation stuff and talents thoroughly, and I don’t see anything that I was missing/doegettj to do
gonne need some logs then
I don't mean to sound rude but this is a very popular cop-out excuse
"oh the content too low for my spec to do damage"
I’d counter this with I’m actually in really bad DPS groups at 10’s where packs are taking forever to die. lol
I did like 650k on first pull Algethar in a 10, with an enhance shaman bursting for 1m dps
Yeah but like, I have a dev evoker, a ret pally and a DH tank pulling above 100k dps, stuff in 10s dies in like 5 seconds.
I mean you're not wrong though.
When I’m in my big juicer groups with my friends shit does die super quick and that hurts my damage, but when I play with people that do similar bad dps like me, I still do bad dps.
be more proactive
It doesn’t feel like the length of pull is mattering to my DPS. lol
I spend a lot of time moonfiring every mob.
Follow right behind the tank, watch what mobs his character model is throwing stuff on, start dotting those mobs
Stop Moonfiring on mobs when they're stacked and just start doing dam instead
Fair.
If you're doing it right then all mobs should have Moonfire on them when the tank has stacked them up because you apply dots to them as soon as they're in combat
And as long as you follow close to the tank it doesn't matter if you rip threat cause you can just kite it thru the tank
(Ignore dotting the shitter nonelites that die in 3 seconds)
And if the tank flames you for ripping threat then play with better players
So, some clarification. With incarnation, AND the talent where it’s only lunar bean. When I have fury of elune up, and one of those available, with no eclipse currently popped, I cast fury of elune first, then I hit EITHER incarnation, or eclipse, correct?
yes also this
just be proactive
yeah sure
you press Fury of Elune off cooldown
And you press Eclipse/Incarn when it makes sense in the pull and don't really care much about other cooldowns for it
I'll give you an example. Windrunner spire, my tank pulls the group leading to both ramps down then everything in the room there. He's also a DH and dashes ahead, it's not possible to MF even a quarter of that before he stops. Plus lots of mobs trickle in from up top.
in an applied scenario at least
Yes I deffo have that down. I’ve been casting it, then hitting one of the eclipse or incarnation. I jut wanted to make sure I don’t wanna hit the CD first then the spell.
idk what packs you mean
just log a key and come back. stuff like specific spell ordering doesn't make that much difference
but you can definitely keep up with a DH tank if you're being proactive
cat form, dash, roar, human form wild charge, cat form wild charge, flap etc
you have so many movement tools you can use to keep up with him
if you're struggling that much then you're prolly doing something wrong without realizing what you're doing wrong and there's no way to diagnose that without logs
if you dont do dmg ur doing something very wrong so dont assume you have the rotation down
acceptance is the first step to improvement
Yeah this
I will do that. I’ll do a 10 when I get home and log it and pot here.
A lot of people come in here going "I have mastered the Moonkin rotation, but I still do bad dmg because the adds die too slow"
Post ^
and thats the biggest copout ever
Let me rephrase then, I feel like I have the rotation down. But I know I’m missing something. I definitely know it’s a me problem not a class problem, lol. I’m here to improve.
wheres the logic in that tho, if they die slow we do more dmg
well the other specs are killing the adds while the moonkin is busy picking his nose (or beak)
My dps tanks when we start a big pull that lasts a while but there's only a few mobs alive at the end, like 2-3 but they are beefy guys.
I may burst for 400k but I'll end the pull at like 100k.
My other issue is not pressing incarn enough cause I feel like I should keep a charge for bosses.
what key levels are we talking about
Yeah there is no harm in holding on to a charge of Incarn
I'm personally doing 12-13s with my group and doing 70-90k overall.
Ideally you want to press your Incarn around whatever on-use trinket
yeah unless you play with pumpers that does seem like a low range for your overall
whats ur character called
Huh, I actually parsed a 96 on this run. Oh, my evoker was aug though so that probably skews it.
10-12
First pull you pressed Moonfire 8 times
Pull has 10 mobs
That's 3 times too many
Yeah, I def overdot.
If you're at 2 charges of Eclipse you should definitely just press Eclipse before starting to dot
If you spend 10 seconds dotting mobs then you have basically lost 0 uptime on Eclipse by pressing Incarn after
theres also multi second gap between them
makes me think that
- you're being slow starting to dot and not proactively following the tank
- you get lost and randomly LOS yourself
- you either have shit nameplates or you're just bad at hitting them
Mines druidikaa on Dalaran server
Default plates, I need to get platynator.
I have some logs it looks like from other people probably. It still has my rating as like 1800 and it’s 2300 now lol. I’ll log and post my own later today.
Oh? I'm surprised that works still. I nuked all my old addons.
why are you surprised that works
So on those, it's me trying to dot as my tank pulls, like you said. But I'm behind him so I'm running to catch up.
you can't use the scripts that automate anything but Plater is just a regular nameplate skinner addon
they all work, they are just more dogshit than before because that was easier than improving the base UI
U held 2nd incarn for roughly 3 minutes
Which means u sat with 2 charges for 1 of said 3 minutes
idk this is like an 18 second window where you're not really doing much
taking forever to dot and then using FoE after your Eclipse
remember that every Moonfire cast while FoE is ready is also wasting Lunation value
Yes, I've caught myself doing this multiple times. I need to move the CDM window to have better visability of charges.
entered Eclipse on Derelict duo and then AFKd
here you're busy building a house or something
derelict what now
The PUdge + Banshee boss
2target boss in Windrunner Spire
entered Eclipse then AFKd
4 Sunfire casts in 15 seconds
So better dot usage, less time casting dots when mobs are grouped, don't waste charges, more time casting.
yeah
but also just stop overthinking
the whole rotation for Moonkin is just
Enter Eclipse with resources -> Spend resources end of Eclipse -> Pool resources for next Eclipse
rinse and repeat
Cause where you lose your most damage is from pressing Eclipse
Spending once
being out of AP
then being caught out from mechanic
that's why there are multi second gaps
That's a good tip.
That's what I meant earlier when I said you should be proactive
Being proactive means to prepare for what you know is coming next
Compared to being reactive
Which is just letting shit happen and then improvising
You can not play Moonkin reactively and consistently do well, it is inherently a proactive spec
It's also small stuff like
You used Wild Charge 1 time
30 minute key
2*
Yea that doesn't count tho
I use probably like 6 Wild Charges just from travel form
Yeah.
The gaps while moving and doing nothing are from u not playing around he 1 movement ability
Then not having asp
Yeah Gamz mentioned that as well.
But also, if that ever happens the absolute worst thing is being afk. At the very least could've sent moonfires for lunation cdr
Disregard the fact that I went in here alone just to record it
but like
you are one of the most mobile classes in the game
👀
it's not hard to just sprint in at the start and keep up with the tank
Is that all default CDM and energy bar?
ayijecdm addon
and yeah get a better UI
you can play well with dogshit UI its just a lot worse
anyway I have raid in an hour and I haven't had food yet today
appreciate the chat
Thanks for your help!
I play 15+ keys, mobs live for more than one minute anyway
If I have an Eclipse (will overcap during incarn) and I'm going to overcap on incarn / am at 2 charges, should I Eclipse -> spend the ascendent Eclipse stacks -> incarn ? Or just straight into incarn
Are we talking in raid or m+
Either
And are we talking context of a pack that is gonna live that length of time
In aoe it seems better to eclipse and spend stacka
Assume yes for this. Lower health adds might die during incarn
i think generally you'd wanna avoid overcapping
Then yea prefer to send eclipse prior
if you have enough leeway on your incarn cd, that might mean to just delay your incarn further
Makes sense. Would you spend the ascendent stacks? Or just use Eclipse for the one off free spell
and play out the eclipse first
Fire okay
U also don't foe until prior to incarn
I see some people sending with eclipse in that scenario
unless it is a situation in which you want to/have to use your big burst, then i would go eclipse, spend the ascendant spender stacks and then build ap to incarn
Solid appreciate it
Would u wanna play starweaver or rattle the stars in M+?
Is there a way to track starlord duration/stacks?
sure .. cdm has the buff
Yup, sure does, I'm blind.
Play what u want to play
rattle the stars; starweaver might be better on bosses (since you can use starfall procs to fish for starsurge procs) but overall rattle is better in M+
Keys so low it's doesn't actually matter yet
Proof or
eh, doubt that weaver is better in ST
i said might
Cool thank u
U said overall rattle better
well hey if im wrong them in wrong 🙂
weak
are yall usin starweaver over rattle?
Yea
yes
But that's cuz I cba and am bored
hmm, ill give it another shot then. didnt work well for me when i tried it for a bit
Mmmhm mmhm
i do like much longer solstice uptime from free procs tho
ec does get some additional solstice uptime from star cascade fwiw
Bring back cascade giving stellar amp
Ec would be giga
No
Don't need more "gain random dogshit buff from Starfire" talents
It's not dog shit what the helly
You agree with me on that you're just too stupid to see it until it happens
Well I agree with already, I'm just trolling tho
I want them to buff Starfall by 300% so that our entire rotation is moonfire star fire + builder and Starfall
Am I asking too much here
Yes
Damn alright
Ur lucky it got buffed back up 16%
Little rat fucks like "we can't have boomkin be good at 1 fight like undermine so nerf those rats Starfall"

Meanwhile Hunter good on every fight no meaningful nerfs 5-head
does any1 knows the best talents for burst? I want to do Belo'Ren with the cheesy strat
it was all a pretty bumpy rollercoaster ride
Ec convoke
hunter was good .. then they nerfed it to shits, then they buffed it to shits
Or keeper convoke
yeah, that was what I was thinking, thanks!
i think almost none of the projected specs are actually the ones that are now dominating across roles *in raid
they also buffed like every spec by 15-20% right as the raid released
lot of why Voidspire was as easy can be chalked up to that
then they giga buffed Quel'danas last week
oh no .. i mean they drastically upset the balance with changes
Question regarding TWW specifically in a mythic setting
Was the rotation of the spec easiest in S1, S2 or S3? Did it vary much at all?
never changed
played EC and pressed Starfire perma for 3 seasons
same shit you do now only Eclipse is a button this time
mythic or m+
yeah, wasnt sure what he meant
s3 definitely had the most punishing timing things
in raid
Gamz forgets that OS was played for the first 2 weeks of queen tier
And then we had to start doing mental gymnastics
2 weeks for you maybe
for me it was 8 weeks
True I did comeback late
Also he asked if rotation changed
and it didn't
You don't have different rotation just cause you talent into OS
You still press CA/Incarn right after Treants
or whenever you fucking feel like in m+ with EC
Think the only difference after 11.0.5 was the Dreamstate change
making it way less cringe to play around
i am having trouble understanding how starweaver plays in reality using the keeper m+ build. Is it correct to just always use starfall in bigger aoe and not alternate with surge until it is like 2 or 3 cleave or whats the point with using it?
when you say alternate, you mean if you get a proc?
yes, f.e. i fight the whole first plattform in spire. I use starfall but surge proccs
i would not have used surge for more starfalls then
if so, yeah .. i have no clue at which target count it is not worth doing anymore (it does provide decent prio damage tho, to upkeep stellar amp with the free surge procs)
just to clarify, i did not say you should use surge there
Should use those procs as long as ur not capped on asp
but just that i am not sure where the cutoff is
Surge better than starfire aurely
It doesn't seem to track at all for me with Plater, do you know if there's some setting I have to tick in for it? I see mushroom debuff, coil etc when it pops up
#balance message scroll down a bit
what is asp?
astral power
astral power?
thanks
so i would use surge with a starweaver procc while fighting 10 targets but not over starfall, only over starfire if i would not be able to starfall?
Yeah the message about "seeing useless spells"? I have all mob buffs / personal debuffs / shared CC enabled already but it's still not showing stellar amp 
starfall maining is giga dog, dont propagate it
Your 4 set means using a free spender in AoE is still pretty good, even if it's starsurge
I prefer using it over a non proc Starfall but that's not what guide says
What's that addon? is like weakauras?
I'm also confused about this section - do we just straight up overcap astral power in AOE if we're fighting 2 targets and they both have stellar amp up?
Surely not?
Cause there's no "If you're about to overcap on 2 targets" for starsurge 
I am loving balance but I feel like I have the world’s worst trinkets. So many dungeons and raids for no drops
I am 269 and still rocking trinkets from preseason
i think it is because it is the aoe section and you would just use starfall to not overcap then
Ah
i think what was intended is that you use starsurge on 2t always
if you have stellar amp
Oh ye below it says starsurge 2 targets 
and target swap
Star surge on dragons over starfall?
But still, I can't find how to track it on nameplates. I have all the options enabled in options I'd assume are needed but stellar amp is still not showing on nameplates
Oh
Gamz fake newsing 
So in Maisara Caverns for example, you'd just have to alternate starsurges then between the two
gamz linked you to his correction
that he thought you said unitframes
or boss frames
or whatever
I like the gamz fake news narritive

Stellar amp extends duration
Are you actually able to get 285 dark moon cards?
If u wanna use sparks I suppose (u shouldn't)
does starfall buff change prio on 2 targets ?
Ye
and it scared you even more?
Any suggestions for AyijeCDM profile? ❤️ edit: and where to find them?
Atrocity
Why not just make your own?
Bear druid back on the menu
big dam
any druid but the chicken
natural selection
watch the one change from bdk to bear is gonna be like 2% boss dam
stinky bears
They need to allow those back attachments like the murloc in a backpack while in all forms
Would you guys go for mythic gloves or mythic 289 staff?
If you haven't crafted wep?
i can smell the people that wanna type "sim it"
I got crafted weapon like pretty much everyone, just doesnt look like in high end staff would be bis compared to crafted off hand and 289 main hand
If you dont have myth gloves and you crafted wep, I'd go with the gloves
taking wep when you crafted one this early feels awful
It's not
gloves
staff sucks
crafted 2h is giga strong until crafted oh + 289 mh
is the nexus ring set piece good?
but dont we want masetry]
sorry typo
dont we boomys want mastery and then haste/crit?
yea but other stats are good in moderation
stats are like vegetables
its good to have lots of some, but you gotta have a complete meal
i did a small mistake i gotta be honest, i crafgted a ring, which ill recraft with hero crests
dont waste ya hero crests
but then wont i have finished a sloit?
use myth crests
only if the crafter make it a R5
the rank you get is determiend by the crafters skill
i didnt put crests
Yea ik
just a waste of gold really
Cant wait to 2t sf soon surely
U could do it now if u want
ya this is the play on alts
Only thing remotely of value I could get is gaze or vaelfor
Everything else I can just guild group farm 10s
ye true
And it's devdh so I do 100k for free
Some of us are poor

I want to play my devdh
but after 3 levels
Im already destroyed, mentally
wtb boosts, Ill pay 60 eu blizzard
its ok wait for the legendary glaive
Just play veng and spam shadow point
Ezpz
And yea, legendary glaive is coming surely
Ok, start watching TV show
rematch all of avatar
Is good show
what spec did yall use for ?? delve nullaeus
Bear
for solo
do u set her to dps or tank






