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i donate every race too
is it worth using the myth crests to craft a myth Aln'hara Cane? I can craft it as hero atm, and the only myth piece i have atm is the tier pants i got from the vault this week so i should be able to get it to 6/6 as well.
@dense steeple WE DID IT
Send it
im still very new to gearing in endgame wow so still trying to figure out what best practices are
(Probably wait till vault. Just in case you get myth weapon)
if u were to spend hero on it
u would then effectively waste crests
which u run out of hero crests weekly

im about 260 off from not needing hero crests anymore
yeah i figured if i can already run the +10 keys i should just farm the crests
ye
ye
Damn. No garyyeettt
thats the 3rd druid which isnt leveled
That druid is really purple colored
how much does normal vaelgors go for hmm
GARYDUH
damn you lowballed that hard and they actually sold it to you?

i just asked how much
holy
he lowballed himself 
crazy
i usually just overbid
bought a heroic ashes of the embersoul for 500k in amirdrassil
there is quite literally no chance healing keys is as hard as some of these healers make it seem.... right?
there is quite literally no chance interrupting casts is as hard as some of these dps players it make it seem.... right?
Why you against us

Lol
i wish that was the reason here. thats an easy fix. im affraid the fix these LFG healers need is a practice that has become either illegal or highly unethical
easy solution is to play resto
exactly what im going to do. I need to see for myself
havent healed in 3 expansions but ive had so many bad healers, i must know
the solution to the end boss should be bring a balance druid to kick it all
change my mind
balance should work on those interrupts
it's about time someone other then DKs get a guaranteed broken mechanic skipping role
has anyone even checked to see if solar beam silenced them as they rotate into it?
dunno
surely
i sold mythic kingaraoth trinket for 750k in antorus
hey, we got cyclone on saladbar last tier
So for +10s do you guys run Keeper or Elunes? I have been finding keeper more fun but wondering what the general thing people are taking is
fucking hell
is there a way to do drake fight
without having a giant wing flapping into my face
wild mushroom
occupying half the screen
oh nah wings are part of the experience
do i need to play first person or what
real tech is to stand behind them
WoE.... my beloved....
some dude posted the whole super mario galaxy movie on twitter so i just snipe downloaded it
reported
YE
I rolled 93 on valegor's perverted gaze
...but lost it to a 97

Ive done raid every week with 3 different characters and have not gotten a single item on any of them
Tis a scam. A scam I say!
dont worry turbo boost
What dat
Ohhhh haha
Cool
Naw its not a big deal. My moonkin has progressed surprisingly fast
Already 265 ilvl and just started this week :)
Its just kinda weird at this point
About the raid drops... probably not actually that weird
Any guides on game performance, during raid my fps goes to like ten, highest memory usage was elvui so like, that seems normal and I don't know how to shrink that (maybe I should use gnomeui, bazinga)
Like major settings to tweak or soemthing
Im at store can do in a bit

bonus rolls for a chance to obtain you item you want*
how do i know what Drum of Renewed Bonds buff was simmed? Or was it even simmed with the variations?
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oig3saJKpF6KCCeo893dXV
why are we doing this
ty
LOL sry...
swap those numbers 
Druid
Balance
Starfall damage increased by 16%. Not applied to PvP combat.
Ascendant Eclipses’ Lunar Bolt damage increased by 10%. Not applied to PvP combat.

WEREW BACK
i was just complaining about keys
HUGE?
i think it worked
I need to gear my druid
Are we still shit with the buffs or is it still my fault?
Where are the new sims and updates to the pins! its been minutes!
LOGIN
my p1 alleria damage is gonna go so hard next reset
@vital hound delete the hunter
4%? lol
1 billion %
minimal no shot it's 4%
It’s only sf no?
yes
if it means perma weaver its a vibes increase
16% on a spell you only casted after 20% of starsurges isn't likely to be 4% ST lol
which is infinite
could be 4% if you giga roll?
too bad theres no ST in this tier to fact check against
what about 16% of a spell you cast as a spender instead 
unless we're back to starfall as our main spender on ST with weaver 
NA math
I mean crown phase 3 is the closest we have to patchwork this tier no?
ive decided the numbers between 6 or 7
mods delete this
singular dps
still too high
True true
gamz is working on it
hes already locked in
straight bricked second he saw
starfall on cosmos procs incoming
After Touch of the Cosmos i always Starfall for the guaranteed 40% chance to for Starsurge so every 5th starsurge and ever 6th Wrath got boosted by 14%
the math checks out, dw about it
i would love to look at numbers if WCL decided to function
math? that was hardly even english ngl
we are so back
The english checks out, dw about it
looking at a high boss damage log for vorasius it would be like 0.7% dps for them to gain +16% sf (assumingthere's no like weird multiplier bs that makes it worth less)
0.7% boss dps*
guys I did some math, and based on my calculations, we should be seeing 14 Balance druids in the world first kill, and triple balance druid comps in m+ should be able to clear +30s next week
proof?
@lucid olive show brick
Druid
Balance
Starfall damage increased by 16%. Not applied to PvP combat.
Ascendant Eclipses’ Lunar Bolt damage increased by 10%. Not applied to PvP combat.
have you guys seen this
nah thanks for posting that mate
hi hippo thanks for the info
nope, can you link?
no i hvanet hippo! thanks for sharing with us
wheres it from
im glad they buffed the nothingburger parts about the spec that dont contribute to meaningful dmg instead of the st
the devs need to be fucking obliterated
👍
👍
nerfed starfall 16% on week 1
prepping for the rdruid m+ nerfs
i dont even know who the humans behind designing the spec are
Now buff back
ofc
i didnt get to pad hard enough on voidorbs
Very efficient
Did grok make these changes
not a single change this xpac has made sense so far. we must retaliate
does balance druid have good SingleTarget dmg? or is it mainly aoe
yesn't
i blast on every target count
i do zero dmg on all target count in all situations
uhhh do we starfall on paladins now
was i not supposed to be starfalling before
Starfall buff is like 3% on paladin fight....that'll fix it for sure
do you guys think if I organized a 24 Balance druid heroic clear every week, blizzard would nerf us?
now we can starfall 2 targets 
Does this mean we starfall in m+ now?
you'd have record slow kill speeds it might buff us actually 
well we cant get high execution scores with 24 balance druids, so I guess we can hold CD's for the whole encounter to lower the speed score too
So we're back to normal now
starfall with cosmos on 1 target you mean
big weaver buff
same honestly
I did anyway out of protest
say it ain't so I've been enjoying rattle
Hey! I am a bit confused by the wowhead bis list for balance druid this season Vessel of Tortured souls is listed as one of the better m+ trinkets in one paragraph and then it is listed as D tier in the matrix below, is it good to use ? It seems pretty bad on bloodmallet.
Lol
i wrote the tooltip before i started changing shit around
classic
Is there a way to track Starweaver Buffs separately?
I see nps! I guess its not that great then ?
its okay but there are for sure better options
what y'all think about vessel?
its bad
i hate it
yea i would etoo
isn't vessel the orb one
the two omen rings are mandatory right?
piece
Maybe I am wierd but I think fetching the orbs that spawns is a pretty fun minigame but if its bad then I will find a better alternative
yo free buff
if you like that minigame you should check out devourer
its basically their entire kit
also were we not supposed to be starfalling cosmos procs? oopsie
meteor storm bosses going to go crazy
I dont have starsurge bound i only press starfall
Wat? Did we really need more AoE damage?
I wonder if we starfall on 2 now
Aah cool thanks might do that! 👍
our ST sucks
Our ST is fine
You either cleave or go home
Huge buffs next week
who cares for raid
Well they tune around raid
I wouldn’t mind starfalling on two targets
Most people here
not starfalling on dragons feels weird
this buff is nothing
Yeesh.. spec is down bad. Haven't seen that little traffic after actually getting mentioned in the notes
Well we didn’t need buffs to begin with
found the minigamer 
in m+ for sure did
I feel like we're fine in keys
only pet battles are important in this game, true
i know it's a meme in here but if you want to push high keys we are not fine
balance is one of the lowest dps in keys according to archon so I think its fine with the buff
🖕
?
there is very few seasons where every spec doesn't get title
based
Plenty of boomkins pushing high keys
"plenty"

druid is for healing silly minigamers
truee but wish the druid healer could do some damage aswell ;D
I did a 15 key today and a demo lock did 50% more overall damage than me and a hunter
Boomkin is great in keys
Sounds like it’s less about classes being underperforming and more about classes being stupidly broken
reminder warlock got a 8% buff from hotfixes last tues
50% is unrealistic something else going on most likely

just get rewarded for playing the correct class
50% is insane broski was doing tank dmg
Sure
Also everyone mentioning warlock dont even think they are the strongest. MAge, hunter , devour , aug , arms
All are super competitive
can i tell my guild 'we are so back' or not?
in raid? we've been back
So back, feel the pad with starfall
if u aren't in that's a u problem
Lots of spread aoe this tier ngl
#showtooltip Starsurge
/cast Starfall
Use this so if guild demands to see your UI you’re covered. Hope this helps
this tier is a meme
hahahha thank you
agreed, i thought we were solid , buff surprised me
we are fine there just happens to be better choices alot of the time. So if your raid team has a lot of options can be benched
"bro i actually dont even have starfall bound" is the best defense
I did a 15 key today and a demo lock did 50% more overall damage than me and a hunter
i feel like our only issue was everyone just wants resto druids for the druid buff
Can you game the numbers to make us fall on 2t pls
Yeah Gamz brings up good follow up, gotta remove Starfall from the bars too and be like ?? Idk what is even happening
i wouldn't say that's the only issue
damn right
not being op damage is an issue too
Why did they buff starfall lol
m+ buff
Theyre gonna give it to Demon Hunters so they wanted to test it for us
Thats nice of them
If you strafall during ecplipses does it snap the damage or is it dynamic?
Was just wondering is it wort to send the last seconds of Incarnation on starsurges
@lucid olive
dynamic
Dynamic
all your damage is dynamic
Very few classes have snapping still no ?
fearl
Okay thought so.
or w/e the % is
holy fuck we're so back
please respond
also Rogue also has snapshots with garrote and tempest
Find him on discord and harass him until he joins back

holy fuck we're so not back @delicate perch


splits 
full heroic or just void?
how many sheeps are there
void + chim
sheepfive is the latest addition
we're definitely getting 6/7 this season

Jfc can’t imagine playing 6/7 toons per season
67
Nice tag man
thanks man
wheres the when in doubt buff starfall graphic
Kitty cat mad he cant catch bird again 🙁
i don’t raid
but i do m+
iykyk
wait 2 weeks to craft 2h weapon or get my wrist to 285 now and push my weapon back 1 week??
How much of an aoe m+ buff is it? Also well still be playing weaver for m+?
2h weapon should have been your first craft
was pugging drakes hc for the past 3h ama
dh sent breath exactly in the middle of the raid
when asked why he said "bro you didnt put markers"
ah yeah well there's no markers guess i'll just put it in the middle 

how hard is it to aim a breath and why are wow players monkeys
natural selection
Gotta try it on a normal pug
you mean that smart people dont play wow right?
Makes sense
yeah bro i have literally no clue wtf i was doing

i don't think it's anything about smart/dumb more ppl that don't really want to give that much effort into success or not would gravitate towards wow
eventually you can just float your way thru content
Balance Druid buffed?
I mean you aren't wrong
some ppl just wanna chill and get carried
R1 cause feral dont play minigame
TIMEWALKING IS SICK
OOOOH BABY WE HYPED IN HERE
WERE GOING HAM
Hes on his devourer
Devouring all the lootdrops
toss away the whole class
i’m above balance too lol
wym
Dwilkz doesn't play the game 
I have on both
bros alt has it and it dont
dwilkz more like dbetrayer
wtf

got 4p from lfr
got valegors
game is litty
same

normal vaelgor
trade u
gamz is stealing my loot by proxy
Hello guys can someone tells me which trinkets are the best for Boomy in raid and in mm+ ?
Im the best demon hunter look at me devourer yumyumyum
Yo does the 16% starfall mean we use that as our spender in 2t now?
Or still SS for stellar amp
there will be a pin at some point
unless its been fixed recently, no
is this shit still not solved 
I've done the sims and this buff will increase our overall starfall damage between 15% and 17%
15.1% kk
try again
heard it here first
no
15.6/15.7
imagine they nerfed boomkins starfall so it wouldnt be in rwf
then buffed it once they got their comp set
mmhm mmhm
btw I have to ask, I heard boomkin 4set is good but isnt the 2 set a giant meme
easiest way to balance m+ and raid amrite
we spend like 25% of our time outside eclipse right
where is the meme
ur reading it wrong
the and is a +
also that
so its 40% more damage, AND u get 2 more astal power outside eclipse
blizzard should learn commas
yes
yeah
did I read it wrong or is it poorly written
both
read it wrong
yes
- Ascendant Eclipses’ Lunar Bolt damage increased by 10%. Not applied to PvP combat.*
Wtf does this mean
the bolts ur lunar eclipse shoots out
Ascendant Eclipses fires a bolt
will now do 10% more dam
Oh ok
It's damage is increased
Thanks fellas
(probably a feral player doesnt know what bolts are smh)
I love reading things back to people in the same way
mmhm mmhm
I used to main warrior please excuse me
that doesnt help ur case
Furry warrior
Only hope now is 12.0.5
But that hope is still minimal based on what PTR development note
That buff is what
3%
And demo is still complaining they are weak?
yea well fuck them
they're just playing the right class
Show me demos complaining they are weak
when playing apex and VI in raid, do you generally send swiftmend on your LB target to extend it?
wrong channel buddy
Like at this point I want proof of random claims that make no sense over the internet
oops my bad lol
yea sure send it
(no clue)
@lofty depot no shot your name is gary too
pronounced ay ay ron
he did his best
lol
if you vanquished the void why are literally in a whole xpac about it
People named Gary seem to wan to let everyone know that’s their name
cause there arent very many left
^^
In fact, I've yet to meet one younger (I'm 32)
old ass name
?
susge
im 33
mmhm mmhm
Is the Starfall buff enough to make it worth casting on 2 targets or will we still prioritize starsurge on 2 targets
?
lmao
very smart, very original
Gary Oak the best Gary
purple class
When sims are done we’ll have a pinned comment probably
Ok I’ll be patient thank you
playing balance druid floor simulator whats up gamers
if you could reliably sim for m+ yeah
i could pin the override code i guess
Well at least in raid there’s plenty of 2t scenarios
sure, someone will probably check..
top boomy logs on dragons are starfalling the whole time anyways
Hmm have we been lied to?
those people also have non padders and not 2 blood dks
top boss dam does it too 
surely 16% will make it the more obvious choice then
if it wasnt before
Does a % increase to starfall make it what we want to use it on two targets or still SS?

We await the clankers
What did everyone craft this week that isn't staff
I reread old convos and feel like it was "gloves" or "sim yourself"
I'm figuring out the sim stuff but also I have no tier and all my gear is ass rn so I feel like what's best might change abruptly
How do you have no tier
Raidbots doesn't even work right because they don't include teleport to moonglade in their rotation so I can't trust it
I haven't won a single loot roll
Damn
I have 2 dawnlight manaflux but seems like I need to wait for vault
Or I can screw myself too hard
Should have 3
Me too and I had 3
So last week I think?
I hit 90 last Monday
Hmm
Where do I actually get them from
They're just in my currency tab
There's so many tokens and stuff
I came back to game just now since legion so it's been a lot at once
You dont have 2k io
Oh that yeah ole
You should have 2 natty. And one for completing eight 7s
Also if you dont have a full vault you should make sure its full, no half ass shit
9 slots = 9 chances of tier
4 piece is huuuuge
yeah i only had 6 vault slots last week
If you only do 3 slots of content youre basically fucked
this week will be 9
took a nap and woke up to starfall boof? nice
But it was practically guaranteed this week
take a few more
yeah ive been spectacularly unlucky
but bearing all this in mind
is there a 'safe' piece to craft
this week with my hero crests
dont gotta tell me twice
well i figured id recraft my weapon with mythic when i got 80 mythic
and id craft something else with hero crests
that is not wise
wasting hero crests bad
At this point you need to get into some 6+ farm groups to farm hero track gear, preferably 7s for myth crest(could be 8 or 9 idk) then save your craft for Tuesday vault
you do not need gear to do 10s
i got in a guild ten but we didnt complete in time but somehow wasnt even my fault my dps was fine
Would you invite a 250 ilvl player with 500 io to your 10?
my io is less than that
I am not playing with strangers so no
but my ilvl is 256 xD
I estimated based on the 2key numbers you gave me
gotta bump those numbers up
i got 96 hero crests and 28 myth crests
send all your champ crests
send a delve map too
you can basically send everything below hero
those are sent
then use hero on 266 items in good slots
You can also just try and get your ow up
I was pugging 10s at 244 just by posting my own key
yeah true
Last week
absolutely not
xD
Finger has no int
you never upgrade a 1/6 item
ok is there any way i can like send my current gear
and 100% not a ring
i am willing to be told i am wrong but at this rate it seems more efficient if i can link my profle somehow
yes the current sim being the end of running one
The natural gear progression is just farm keys higher and higher as your ilvl grows, run your own so you don’t risk sitting in group finder for an hour
But then again idk who is running 2s nowadays
should be 8/9 i think unless the raid i did today skipped a fight
erm a wing or something
Not 9/9 smh
we did 2 pulls on normal earlier and everyone left and we didnt go back yet
on lura or w.e
i did chimaerus thats not listed here
idk what else we missed
Jokes aside you can easily if you have the time just farm some keys for crests and gear
Run your own and pray
yeah crown and chimaerus not listed here but i did those
Or learn to heal and do that
i can run more keys, or delves too or w.e, thats all fine, but i guess for now dont use any of my hero or myth crests or my dawnflux
with what i currently have
I would not
Hero and myth crests are still valuable
Maybe try and get into a heroic pug
Am I supposed to be holding my 3rd ascendant for starfall in aoe, if I dont have asp and have a starweaver proc, or do I just send the proc? After insta starfire, of course. It feels weird, and before I was just running rattle.
Ascendant? You mean ca ?
Yay buffs
no, ascendant stars
why r u holding it
for the macros to cast sunfire/moonfire with just cursor hover, can you safely replace your normal moonfire/sunfire with those or do you set those to alternate buttons
this
lemme think about that
accidentally casting it on my OWN TEAM AND THEY DIE AND YELL AT ME
we raid with friendly fire on
the third druid dot
you have to believe real hard
i guess
if my cursor is hovering over something i DONT want to dot?
i can just get more used to that, the benefit of aquickly dotting adds way higher
why are we simming anything at 89 lol
lmfao
because with not max lvl maximun dps give
what
i got all the suggested macros from dreamgrove and gamz thingy on method site
any more niche ones people like
hold up let him cook
can i use innervateon an arcane mage to make them not spend mana and do less dps
If i dot someone and the holy paladin martyrs it do i gain double the benefit?
idk im going off arcane circa 10 years ago
im going of vibes too
yes

there has been at least one change over 10 years to wow
Stuck
prove it
no
can i reorder these icons
Yes
swag
they seem mostly fine but id like to change the text size and colour and move them around a bit
Literally untrack wrath starfire starsurge baseline
Depending on if you have any frame addons or if base ui does it, you can also untrack the dots
the annoying thing is ive been staring at this bar a lot now and so ive developed stockholm syndrome
whats ur UI look like
Idk im not online
Gamz is cool
thats the one i have
i downloaded his wago thing
but things werent in the same spots
to send a +20% starfall instead of a +20% starsurge in aoe?
thats what im asking, is it worth to hold starweaver SS to use AS on starfall?
Can we see the damage increase from our 4-set? I wonder how much the procs from 4-set are doing. This may have been discussed but I’m newer to the balance side of this discord
only in logs. blizzard fucked in game meters
its not faster
u just prefer not adding an extra click or u prefer not accidentally dotting wrong target
u could munch buffs
munching bad
I assume it’s the second “shooting stars” when I click the breakdown for shooting stars
It’s very hard to just visualize the tier sets dmg buff since it’s more than just one proc that does dmg
How much of a buff is inc
hmm 16% to starfall and 10% to lunar bolts
probably like 2-4% Aoe and 1-2% single target i can be wrong
its faster than my clunkily tab targetting or fumbling the targetting
if u fumble that much u will fumble a lot of wrong targets mouseovering too
its just preference
its already so much better than before using it
therefore i win, you lose, checkmate
gottem
doubt its anywhere near 2% st
10% and I assume it's primarily a buff for EC right?
aoe number probably correct
why would it primarily be a buff to ec
Because it's lunar bolts and they only have lunar eclipse?
those BIG lunar bolt buffs 
lol
they do so much dam!!
because keeper in aoe doesnt go into lunar.. mmhm mmhm
because incarn doesnt give both mmhm mmhm
yea that'd be dumb
🙁
yucky

cuz that does damage ever
our main damage spell should be mushroom
and also moonfire and sunfire should be replaced by mushroomfire
and also we should be melee and hit them with a big mushroom


I think there's a show like that
i died in highschool and was reincarnated as a level seventeen mushroom mage?
iim confused now
16 % buff starfall
Did you see it on wowhead?
no way man, link?
wait

holyyyyyyyyyy
starfall on 2t let's go
just wait we gonna starfall cosmos procs in st
then theyre gonna freak out and nerf the proc on cosmos :/
I have a question: I see quite a few Boomies with full crit haste builds, what do you think of that?
with this gears
where is the full crit haste
I have the PvP mastery haste necklace and I sim better with the PvP necklace than with the crit haste necklace.
whats full crit about that
that do be how stats work
Look at Warcraft Logs, most of the ranked boomers have a lot of crit haste
maybe it doesnt sim best for them
a lot is not full crit haste
a lot =/= full
most of them items have mastery on them
yes i sim pvp neck is better on raidbot
ok then wear it
crit is good
haste is good
mastery is gooder
not really a hard concept to understand
stats good
expect vers, tahts yucky
Yes, but when I see Boomie Rank players wearing this neck and Raidbot tells me the other neck is better, you can understand why I have questions.
ur stat prio will change a lot based on your other pieces and trinkets and shit dood
thats why u just topgear sim
also maybe they just dont have that neck
Yes, but I have exactly the same gear as them.
how do you know they have the neck
the pvp neck simmed better than the pit neck for me, until i got gaze
This necklace can be farmed in 1 hour.
so?
maybe they dont want to pvp
for some reason I doubt that
266 cloak too 👀
266 not upgraded ring 👀
Yes, but I'm thinking he could have the PvP collar, why equip the pit neck?
maybe they like the item more
cant tell if not listening or
I would not want people knowing I pvp'd :\
looking back at the old sets, visually, they missed the mark on every shadowlands tier
how are all 3 so bad
You should check on Warcraft Logs, there are a lot of people in the neck pit. I even saw some boomie crafters with neck crit haste.
Has the nerds done their math yet on if boomie are meta in m+ now or no?
mathkins are asleep
lmfao
Fuck
why dont you ask him
yea the small starfall buff will make them catch up to warlocks for sure
m+ meta not decided by sims
(level your warlock if you want to minigame)
its big u see numby has 2 digits
maybe the collar makes him feel cuter
Where is the math?
big big
Yes, I could ask them, that's true.
nobody has ever simmed m+ meta game ever
anyone that says they have has no io
srry
show urs?
Im talking about calculations here, not feelings
The warlocks are way too far ahead, there's no contest even with the buff.
haha
theres some math
go do some math on a log
they are not gaining close to 40k bud
rip gg
can u give me an example in the past where people decided m+ meta from sims
Yes
holy
What kind of calculation is that?
whats the number arctic
do u know how to do math or
how many buffs
when SV/destro did 2x the damage of everyone else
lol 10x lower of that number
would you like to share my brethren
His math is as correct as his opinions
?
Did i stutter?
probably
if you are only looking now how did you know his maths were wrong
thats what big logs want u to belive
kk tell me what number u hit and if its 10% of 35
hiding the real op classes from us
ill wait
yes but that was people observing that in keys and in logs
I hit more
no humans are pushing keys anyway it's all fake info
Dont check logs for m+ meta
nobody came out of a halls of atonement with a destro lock doing double everyones damage
and then they were like
ok i better tag @hasty dove in class discord
U need to check players
to confirm that this is OP from maths
Thx
check players
my brethren
what does that mean
hah
should i find a tierlist
who do you think are in the logs
primo bait
Yes, on one key we'll earn 15-20k overall.
The ragebait is real here

yes you are ragebaiting successfully
gotta know the meta slaves that are playing boomkin right now
mmhm mmhm
Correct sir
you have ignored every question i ask u
But I gave u some fun?
if i wanted to have fun engaging with a subhuman i would just go play with my dog
I just asked 1 simple question and I got 5 people angry
Are u subhuman?
probably
Based
So to answer my 1 question - no, we are not meta?
A simple no would have been enough tbh
well
it wouldnt have been
Elaborate
you asked htis
Yes
and then you argued with someone who answered you
so obviously a simple no was not enough
what a funny interaction
i had to don my cold orange man angry hat
morons do that to you
u should watch that movie
too old
