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lucid olive
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I guess 1st boss is possible if your team giga meatgrinders down the adds

warm quest
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Well Im just doing heroic later tonight, would you run it there?

digital berry
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On heroic adds probably just implode

lucid olive
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yeah I just slam boss damage on heroic

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the Wraths might

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the Starsurges are always on your main target

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yeah but not like 5 of them

lofty depot
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This is the idea, but not always true. At the end of ca if u 2 eclipse charges, u send regardless of asp

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Like every boss lol
Vaelgors for orb spawns, chimaerus if ur first down,

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First boss is add spawn timjngs

lucid olive
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the Moonfire cast shouldn't replace a Starsurge cast, but the Moonfire cast is also not guaranteed I think

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at least that's what I gather from looking at the sheet

lofty depot
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Vorasius ur getting only 4 uses on CA so u hold ur 2m one til 3m add spawn

digital berry
lofty depot
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There's even more tech actually

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But its super secret and I haven't r1 yet so I'm not gonna tell u

dawn surge
lofty depot
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Maybe next week

lucid olive
warm quest
lofty depot
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Chimaerus tech needs to be fiund

pliant quiver
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So couple questions about cooldown windows:

As an Eclipse/Incarn buff is falling off but you still have time on Starlord should you recast Eclipse/Incarn to keep the damage from that rolling? Or wait and pool asp and as soon as Starlord falls off go into another eclipse/incarn window?

If you’re playing with Convoke, should get full stacks of Starlord before hitting Convoke?

lofty depot
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Getting the MC thing is giga parse

lucid olive
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Like personally I can just slam the same braindead Convoke build on every boss cause I know it won't matter since my team is good enough that the bosses get oneshot anyway, but that's obviously not true for everybody

digital berry
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Chimaeras I assume you just open with eclipse if you go down first

lofty depot
lucid olive
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you can

lofty depot
lucid olive
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you wanna stop dmg on the big add downstairs anyway eventually

lofty depot
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Depending if u have time on ur charges u can build asp

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If u have 2 charges of eclipse, u send eclipse regardless of asp

warm quest
lofty depot
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No

lucid olive
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that would mean sending CA without treants

lofty depot
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No trinket either

warm quest
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okay, so you just use an eclipse on pull if you go down first

lofty depot
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Sending a natty ca sounds beans

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I was gonna tech some shit and use wraps

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But decided against it

digital berry
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Then again in heroic you might not get a whole lot of value from that since adds die super fast

lofty depot
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Play meteor and do damage faster

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Silly goose

lucid olive
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I'm just tunneling boss on Chimaerus on downstairs phase tbh

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little adds get blown up insta and need to stop dam on big add

lofty depot
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Lol stop dam

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Is crazy work

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Just kill it

pliant quiver
lucid olive
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best way to do the fight innit

dawn surge
digital berry
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There is not a single reason to do it if you’re planning on entering eclipse / ca anyway

lucid olive
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you time the shield breaking on the big add with your debuff running out

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so that he phases topside with you

lofty depot
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Again, if u have max charges or not doing thag

lucid olive
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then stops moving for the Consume cast with your entire guild hitting him instead of only half of them at a time

lofty depot
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If u don't u can build then go into eclipse surr

lucid olive
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gains you a ton of boss dmg as well since tanks never have to move the boss to kite the mob + melee gets full uptime

dawn surge
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sounds like a lot of coordination and timing for a shitty easy boss

lucid olive
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not really

dawn surge
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considering how easy it is, yes really

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the only difficult part of chimaerus is relying on your mages to kick

digital berry
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Idk anything to make strats more reliable and repeatable is a good idea in my book

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No variance

dawn surge
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just hit buttons get kicks win fight idk

pliant quiver
dawn surge
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sure im not saying its worse to do that overall

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just doesnt seem like good bang for buck value y'know

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overcooking

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just hit the add and then hit the boss when its dead

digital berry
lofty depot
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Unless ur playing incredibly bad

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U might have less depending on the timing of ur other asp spends

digital berry
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Lowkey sending 3 spenders at the start of any eclipse is so easy there isn’t much of a reason to sweat over starlord

lucid olive
# dawn surge overcooking

it's not overcooking when you have to kill the boss in splits with different setups and you wanna guarantee no accidental wipes

dawn surge
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on a real note can we start like a prayer group in here and just channel our energy into hoping for vaelgors trinket in every single boomy's box

pliant quiver
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Ok. Makes sense. So really looking to optimize uptime on Incan/Eclipse is more of a priority than uptime on Starlord.

lucid olive
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if you want to just kill it in a pug and fuck off then sure that's different

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can pad all you want in random pugs

pliant quiver
lofty depot
digital berry
dawn surge
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next week every boomy gets atleast heroic version in vault

lofty depot
dawn surge
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surely

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if we pray we can manifest it

lofty depot
glacial steeple
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Who's the patron saint of Boomkins?

dawn surge
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dawg im sitting on champ track gaze and rep trinket still

lofty depot
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Tettles

dawn surge
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id take a heroic vaelgors in a second

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shit id take a normal

lofty depot
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Naguura maybe

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Lorgok maybe

dawn surge
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who tf is lorgok

drifting nova
lofty depot
round field
pliant quiver
digital berry
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Isn’t lorgok Hella problematic or smth

drifting nova
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weirdly everyone else passed aside from friend who was like 240 on mage

dawn surge
lucid olive
drifting nova
round field
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Lorgok is the goat

digital berry
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Might be confusing him for someone else

lucid olive
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thought the boss was so easy..

drifting nova
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master puzzle solver

lofty depot
dawn surge
lucid olive
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is that why you were sat on vorasius

dawn surge
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not like i raid in a hof guild

digital berry
dawn surge
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no i was sat vorasius because i just joined them

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lkiterally tuesday

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then i was brought for chimaerus which ive alrdy killed in a diff guild

lucid olive
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just joined them and already calling them bad in public discord

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some raider

stark meteor
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to be fair I came across probably the best pug I've ever been in

dawn surge
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i mean youre trying to catch me out being a weirdo but yes we failed to kill chimaerus in 2 hours personally to me thats bad

stark meteor
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three wipes on the dragons, none for the next two(?) bosses, two wipes on allergies

drifting nova
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am I dumb or is there no talent copy button

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to duplicate it

royal zenith
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2 hours is fine for a first kill

stark meteor
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alleria, allergies, close enough

royal zenith
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and it's not like balance druid carries that fight

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I dunno, might wanna pipe it down

dawn surge
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we DIDNT kill it and didnt even make it out of 1st intermission

royal zenith
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or?

dawn surge
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in 2 hours

stark meteor
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what difficulty?

lucid olive
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lfr

digital berry
royal zenith
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and remember

drifting nova
stark meteor
drifting nova
royal zenith
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you're at the level of play that you belong

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else you would be in a better guild

dawn surge
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?

drifting nova
dawn surge
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that doesnt make any sense whatsoever and you know it lmao

drifting nova
royal zenith
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"it's the low elo man!"

stark meteor
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who want me (bottom 3% on the two dragons fight) ❤️

exotic perch
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If i played league ranked id be challenger guys

dawn surge
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im choosing to be in a guild that i want to be in

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has friends in it

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idc to push hof ive done that

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it sucks

exotic perch
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If only my grandmaster in hots transferred

dawn surge
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rather do keys

stark meteor
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team liquid let me know

dawn surge
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chimaerus is mechanically very easy thats just how it be

digital berry
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Minigamer calling guild members bad ThumbsUp

royal zenith
drifting nova
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pvp is so dead holy

royal zenith
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I dunno, chim can be a pain in the ass if you dont have enough interrupts, grips, yadda yadda

drifting nova
lucid olive
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yeah its a comp heavy fight

stark meteor
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it can suck in eu pugs especially

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im only somewhat useful when he spawns all the adds

royal zenith
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no idea why eu is included

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but pugs in general are pain ye

stark meteor
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bottom 6%. not to brag.

stark meteor
royal zenith
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okay stop capping

dawn surge
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thats pretty goated

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ngl

royal zenith
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literally all speak english

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LMFAO

lucid olive
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world rank 1000 sneaking in the easiest hall of fame ever talking about how easy the boss is

stark meteor
drifting nova
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I put the entirety of spain on my shitlist an hour ago

dawn surge
stark meteor
dawn surge
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sorry youre worse than me bro

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get over it or somethin

drifting nova
exotic perch
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Chim is an easy mythic boss yes

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But its still a mythic boss

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Cant disrespect the encounter and expect to kill it

royal zenith
stark meteor
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also how hard is the timewalking ragnaros fight

royal zenith
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Okay okay, Im just baiting at this point

dawn surge
digital berry
stark meteor
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YAY no mechanics

dawn surge
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well technically theres an intermission

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technically

stark meteor
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YAY some mechanics

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is there any way to more concretely track your m+ performance or is it just the score on warcraftlogs

digital berry
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The score on wclogs is the least concrete way to track your performance

lucid olive
stark meteor
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oh shit im 1825

lucid olive
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if number go up = its good

stark meteor
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yay

dawn surge
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most keys arent even logged anyways

stark meteor
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is there any way to get different secondary stats on tier pieces

digital berry
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Nope

lucid olive
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no

digital berry
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Ope

stark meteor
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🧑‍🦲

dawn surge
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finally

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my time to shine

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aw

royal zenith
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only 1300 members

wicked shuttle
dawn surge
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probably mostly bots too

stark meteor
dawn surge
dawn surge
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^

lucid olive
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none of their keys are keeper

stark meteor
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raid build then?

dawn surge
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raider.io shows whatever talents you logged out in on the frontpage

stark meteor
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argh..

dawn surge
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to see the talents they run in keys u gotta open up their keys below

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and see individually

lost violet
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Starweaver VS Ratltle // Whats your pick and why? I followed grove build but when i reviewed keys on logs i see most seem to play Rattle. I think Starweaver is gigapump on for example DMG amp in Nexus, I've reach 350k dps there. But whats your thought guys?

pallid bay
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Weaver prob better

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More ST usually makes dungeon go faster

lost violet
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or is it just more interactive with the procs?

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i mean rattle, thats the reason maybe?

dawn surge
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isnt rattle best for pure st tho

lucid olive
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Rattle with Convoke yes

dawn surge
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interesting

lucid olive
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difference is negligible anyway

dawn surge
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i was never given that qualification from who i was told when to use it by

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thats all

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didnt know

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glad to see i wasnt totally inting then

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only .3% inting

lucid olive
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Incarn prefers Starweaver cause its higher uptime on Eclipse and a more flat dmg profile

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Convoke prefers Rattle in general cause it's more upfront dmg + Convoke already gives you average 6-7 seconds of Solstice

dawn surge
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so in theory would you say starweaver is better for overalls in m+ in lower target count dungeons compared to rattle?

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like seat for example

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i tried it there and it felt terrible but maybe i didnt give it a fair shake

lucid olive
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yeah EC with Rattle better for higher pull counts for sure

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and Keeper Weaver better on ST and boss

dawn surge
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maybe i should try kotg in seat

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and skyreach

lucid olive
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no clue which one is better in general for lower pull count dungeons but those are generally their strengths

dawn surge
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i only do like 115k in skyreach and its kinda variable in seat depending on the route but still noticeably lower than others

lucid olive
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EC is also the highest simming in ST though so who knows really

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if someone made a dungeonroute APL you could sim it

dawn surge
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what about EC weaver vs EC rattle

drifting nova
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only one is correct

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the other is jail territory

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choose carefully

dawn surge
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lmao ive been defaulting to ec rattle bc i dont like starweaver for m+ so far every time ive tried it

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not fully convinced starweaver is worse though

dawn surge
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im probably just a hater because im not used to it

lucid olive
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starweaver worse for EC yeah

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too easy to overcap AP

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too much random passive AP gen

drifting nova
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but that also means big moon bad

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orbit

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and we both know thats not true

lucid olive
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EC procs Solstice with Star Cascade

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and with tier set

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so OB still good

drifting nova
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but doesnt proc stellar amp as someone said a few weeks ago

lucid olive
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yeah you just do that natty with spending starsurge

drifting nova
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wtf 2 starsurges

lucid olive
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need 4 starsurges to max it

dawn surge
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or just be greedy and dont even run stellar amp

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ez

lucid olive
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how is that greedy

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its not like it's a mandatory talent

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but the other choices in middle section of the tree are all kinda shit

dawn surge
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ur not starsurging in aoe so u just maximize overalls by not taking it

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wurf

lucid olive
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do you though

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like what else would you take that gives more aoe

dawn surge
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soul of the forest

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more AP gen

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ez

lucid olive
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More AP gen in a build that is like perma capping you?

dawn surge
lucid olive
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Stellar Amp increases Starfall damage as well..

dawn surge
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in keys

dawn surge
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imagine starsurging in aoe ew

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couldnt be me

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been thinking about astral communion tho too tbh

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the extra max ap prevents overcapping although that is just a stopgap for poor play usually

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actually wonder if meteorites has good value in skyreach and seat

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with starweaver

lucid olive
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meteorites is a single target talent

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loses immense value whenever there are other entities nearby

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also SOTF seems like extra bad if you also have active shrooms

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less globals spent on Starfire means less value for SOTF

twin lotus
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just take the possible double eclipse talent and get proc on every eclipse

dawn surge
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time to yeet sotf i guess

lucid olive
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id swap out the shrooms for natures grace or elunes challenge i think

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or just go sunseeker

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active shrooms with all the dmg mods from the EC tree it doesn't get affected by sounds like shit

dawn surge
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id run active shrooms or no shrooms personally, active is way better than passive in my experience cuz u actually get the dmg on all the mobs reliably

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istg passive shrooms only proc when the mobs are dead or dying

lucid olive
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yeah i think they're good with keeper

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not as good if you're perma lunar

dawn surge
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think ima swap sotf for astral communion in more aoe centric keys and stellar amp in lower target counts

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maybe go starweaver in those low target counts too

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to lean into it more

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thanks for the input and thoughts

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got stuff to try

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maybe if i talent right ill time a 17 sr soon :D

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wait OR i could drop shrooms for astral communion instead of dropping sotf in aoe

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since as u said shrooms arent buffed in ec

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this is tech for sure

lofty depot
lofty depot
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Weaver in all keys

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Grow up

dawn surge
stark meteor
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what should i get to craft an aln'hara cane VerySadCat

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like the embellishments and shit

celest narwhal
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dark moon

lofty depot
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Hunt presumably

stark meteor
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should i try and get a myth crest before crafting order-ing one?

copper valve
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What's the numerical value with Shooting Stars in terms of its frequency?

lofty depot
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U can recraft it if u want

stark meteor
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i've got a +11 pits in the bags

digital berry
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You’ll need more than one key to get enough crests for a myth craft

stark meteor
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did a 10+ (not ++ we kept dying 😻)

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darn

digital berry
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It’s 80 crests

stark meteor
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80 crests wtf

bronze sandal
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bring back pulsar

digital berry
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Do not

copper valve
stark meteor
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would sparks of radiance be worth to replace these

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though sparks only bring it up to 252(?)

celest narwhal
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make a 2 hand staff

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at 285

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or whatever the best i can

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you

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+8 keys drop 263

digital berry
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try the pvp channel

lucid olive
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he didn't have to delete his message..

glacial steeple
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What'd you say to them?

lucid olive
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he wanted pvp advice

glacial steeple
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Oh yeah I figured we just booted those guys from the server

plucky valley
viscid ermine
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On alleria hc on 2nd phase with simulacrum we Starfalling or Surge?

plucky valley
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That way you don’t have to spend hero crests

digital berry
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surge on 2T

lofty depot
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Then recraft when u get the crests

plucky valley
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True

digital berry
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the l'ura addon drama is so funny

dusk hazel
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balance seems deadge

royal zenith
digital berry
dusk hazel
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wanted to roll druid alt

dull dust
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any bets on tuning tonight

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🪙

drifting nova
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it is friday

digital berry
stark meteor
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up from 41.3k dps to 72k dps

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YEAHHHH

digital berry
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Hyuge

lofty depot
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Maybe nerfs to the heal absorb

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Wonder if vaelgors catches a nerf

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Cast time on the orbs prob

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Lower their HP while ur at it so maybe u don't need 3rd tank

nova ocean
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Beloren I'm betting gets gutted real quick

lucid olive
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idk still 10 ilvl to get

dull dust
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vaelgors nerf would be nice lowkey

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(because I dont have it yet)

royal zenith
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they will nerf it a bit @ gamz

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happened to stix too

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the ilvl is not really an argument, we had raid buff back then

lucid olive
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just not kicked in yet

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and not tied to renown track

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what do you think all the weekly quests for decimus in voidstorm is for..

royal zenith
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yeah, just saying these thigns dont matter

lucid olive
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yeah

royal zenith
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its not like the amount of kicks will diminish for birb

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that boss is a bit insane

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we'll see

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waiting for logs to remove piss adds and voidorbs

lucid olive
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there will be less kicks with more dmg

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since they die quicker

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but yeah no way to know really

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i think if they nerf beloren its a hp nerf

drifting nova
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kicks required? so chicken is cooked then

royal zenith
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well you also stack immunities

dull dust
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blizzard could've gave boomkin a free spot on end boss if beam just kicked everything

lucid olive
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but hp nerf also kinda ruins phasing timers..

royal zenith
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you're by definition just useless on a fight like birb

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passenger really

nova ocean
drifting nova
lucid olive
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0 assignments

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pressing starfire entire fight

drifting nova
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starfire buff wen

nova ocean
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Tonight

drifting nova
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wdym

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it is friday

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did you not see when I said that

nova ocean
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They said they will have tuning next reset and they announce usually Friday night

lucid olive
dusk hazel
lucid olive
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skill issue

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i'm blasting

dull dust
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same

jolly delta
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same (on mage)

dense dawn
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Question: Why do i lose 6% haste when i enter boomkin?

jolly delta
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lycara

red nymph
raven gorge
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is balance's burst damage still really bad in m+?

dense dawn
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Right so my actual haste is what it is in boomkin...

tardy stag
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Hey guys quick question , in M+ we play with Elune's Chosen, during Lunar eclipse in Single target do we spam cast Starfire or Wrath?

jolly delta
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sims always assume you enter moonkin

lofty depot
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The problem is the burst part of the spec is on the other hero talent

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And u won't play it once u get higher keys

dull dust
royal zenith
dull dust
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gunna remove that and see if gamz notices

royal zenith
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not the %

jolly delta
dull dust
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can u stealth after ur first 2 wrath still

normal pilot
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no it puts you in combat

jolly delta
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you can meld tho

dull dust
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True night elf optimizing

jolly delta
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does the new invis pot work only out of combat?

dull dust
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yes

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er actually idk

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usually they dont

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work in combat

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havnt used new yet

jolly delta
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i mean it clearly doesnt matter

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but

lucid olive
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i dont think they made a new shadowmeld pot

jolly delta
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i think in tww there was one no?

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or am i glitching

lucid olive
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yeah season 3 had a shadowmeld pot

dull dust
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oh yeah they made a meld one

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never used it

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just be the right race

pallid bay
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start prepull in human form with 4 regrowths into 2 wraths 1 regrowth 2 starfires

royal zenith
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pre-meld jump 3 times and innervate the tank

dull dust
royal zenith
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not the rake opener... @loud kettle

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deja vu

loud kettle
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(:

lofty depot
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BRING ME BACK

loud kettle
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Talent fluid form

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Stop with the manual cat nonsense

exotic perch
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crazy feral is quite nice actually

lofty depot
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He probably has it and doesn't know

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Mmhm mmhm

exotic perch
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its so much smoother brained

loud kettle
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ya too smooth brain for me

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I was testing it on beta and realized I was simply not enjoying the spec

exotic perch
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its a welcome change from cooldownslop moonkin

lofty depot
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1m convoke so fun

exotic perch
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what did you wish they didnt do with it tho

royal zenith
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moonkin actually cooldownslop

loud kettle
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the most cooldownslop ive ever seen fr

exotic perch
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im so happy my years long crusade of hating eclipse is still active

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and people are finally getting it

loud kettle
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Bake trees into eclipse and make eclipse off gcd

lofty depot
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Wonder when a feral is gonna kill vanguard

exotic perch
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i dont even wanna kill feral on any druid spec

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that fight looks awful man

dull dust
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its still bad

loud kettle
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Well it was only reasonable before because of uh waning twilight?

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Did I get the right name

dull dust
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actually

lofty depot
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Should've been here last year when crazy was bodying the feral dev

dull dust
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bow does fluid form and meld work

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if i meld in boomkin does the rake still get buffed

loud kettle
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yep

dull dust
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ok

loud kettle
lofty depot
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W

dull dust
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also can u actually eclipse in cat form

loud kettle
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probably

lofty depot
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U can incarn in bear form

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Sonprob

loud kettle
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(I have no idea)

dull dust
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it does in sim

loud kettle
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Wish there was a way to find out

dull dust
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@lucid olive

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figure out this super useful tech

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k thx

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arctic how do I make this slightly better

lofty depot
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How about u go figure out if meteorites is better on 2t/3t with casting cosmos starfalls

dull dust
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that might improve ur gameplay tho

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dont want that

lofty depot
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....

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Mage is dead silly boy

dull dust
lofty depot
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U changed to motw

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Make it better already

dull dust
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True true

grave agate
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how do you sim 2 set trinkets on raidbots if you dont have one?

lofty depot
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Probably better to cast wrath then eclipse not?

lofty depot
lucid olive
lofty depot
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Hm

dull dust
#

hold up

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we're nuetral

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all gains from here

lofty depot
#

Did u add the phys talents in the class tree?

dull dust
#

is there phys talents

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isnt it just rake

lofty depot
#

No

dull dust
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and the choice node

lofty depot
#

Grevious wounds is 10% inc on rake

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And then there's the idk killer instinct that inc by 6%

dull dust
#

oh i have dw

lofty depot
#

Sheesh

dull dust
#

using boat on stealth rake is so funny

spring thorn
lofty depot
#

Go sim it surely

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(idk if works)

spring thorn
#

it works, just tried it. Will sim it, thanks!

stark meteor
#

anyone on eu wanna do lightblinded vanguard :3

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normal difficulty...

warm quest
#

When your playing like the ST convoke build how do you do the burn. Like I remember in manaforge it was a set number of Starsurges after you droped CA and trees then you voked

lofty depot
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That was mostly so u could fight the 2nd CA and 2 surges in trees after xoncoke

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There's not a set amount, but rather time to convoke and dump asp after convoke in trees

loud kettle
warm quest
dull dust
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prob dont have todo that

warm quest
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or do you just drop those both and immediately voke

dull dust
#

its dpet is like half of a wrath

lucid olive
lofty depot
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Under the amount u need to cast another surge yes

warm quest
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okay so CA + trees then SS till your under 40 or 36 depending on your rattle vs starweaver

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then you convoke

lofty depot
#

Sure

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Btw there's not a flight on myth I think I would be convoking right now

dull dust
#

dragons

lofty depot
#

Seek help

dull dust
#

its a gain on 3t still afaik

lofty depot
#

Good thing I'm not worried about 3t

dull dust
#

2t

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still

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are u padding orbs

lofty depot
#

Yes

dull dust
#

then paladins

loud kettle
#

Ur dumb if u dont pad

dull dust
loud kettle
#

Always pad

dull dust
#

True always pad

royal zenith
#

boomkin has no reason to exist

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if it doesnt pad

loud kettle
#

Stop the "important dam" cope

lofty depot
#

Convoke gonna random wrath the immune target and silence u

royal zenith
#

also if you are able to pad

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your group kinda shit

dull dust
#

that would go hard

royal zenith
loud kettle
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Convoke spells are all procs

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Shouldn't get silenced

lofty depot
#

The fury of elune talent is a proc

dull dust
#

just dont convoke for 10seconds

lucid olive
lofty depot
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And that shit silences

loud kettle
#

Nice

lucid olive
#

lunar bolt silences you

loud kettle
#

Don't hit immune targets idiot

lucid olive
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light of elune procs silences you

dull dust
#

idk what fight is sub 3t

lucid olive
#

meteorites probably silences you as well

royal zenith
#

good thing they bring a moonkin to paladin fight then

lucid olive
#

Halo silences you

lofty depot
#

Is belo egg an amp or no.

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How long does it last

lucid olive
#

no

dull dust
#

ice lance cleave silences

lofty depot
#

Maybe u play convoke there if ur bad

lofty depot
dull dust
#

if u had remaining freezing on them

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it can go that way

lofty depot
#

Rekr

dull dust
#

even at like 80 yards

lofty depot
#

Consume it next time silly

dull dust
#

but u just look away and its fine

lofty depot
#

Oh so stand in center and look away

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Ezpz

dull dust
heavy iris
#

is there a chance boomy somehow can get buffed to be relavent in keys this season or is it just cooked

royal zenith
#

who knows

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its also not like it's bad

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resto is just better pick

heavy iris
#

it is bad

dull dust
#

its gunna get 3% and people gunna all reroll

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even tho its fine rn

heavy iris
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any dps is better almost

plucky valley
#

i hit 890k first pull academy @lofty depot

royal zenith
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it will only be better if other dps actually get nerfed

lofty depot
#

Aug or

royal zenith
#

even buffs won't save it

heavy iris
#

fair

plucky valley
#

no one dps died o pull

lofty depot
heavy iris
#

no

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i'm top 5 overall in almost every key +16

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getting gapped by dev/ele/demo/you name it

lofty depot
#

Theres like 6 DPS that are better

royal zenith
#

okay nvm, the dps is actually shit

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LMAO

heavy iris
#

It's horrible overalls in high keys

lofty depot
#

Link log bet he's playing wrong

royal zenith
#

getting gapped in every log

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hahahhaha

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balance druid KEKL

wild dune
#

tragic

heavy iris
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orange name so he knows better tho

wild dune
#

devourer is actually broken tho so

royal zenith
#

it's just arctic

wild dune
#

just need rwf hostage situation to end so actual nerfs happen

lofty depot
#

The chances that ur doing the opener wrong is very high just saying

heavy iris
#

you can pull any log you want from high keys and see boomy is not doing well

royal zenith
#

I don't think it will get buffed though

lofty depot
#

But I wouldn't expect an m+er to know how to minmax something that wasn't told to them outright

royal zenith
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cause in blizzard's eyes it's "competitive"

dense steeple
#

Too much variance in m+ anyway

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Who cares

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Boomy niche is being mmediocre

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Nut up and shut up or fotm swap

royal zenith
#

nut up huh

lofty depot
#

The dreamstate stack minmax that all the rats didnt do forever

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"sundered firm so good, me wrath wrath start of pull"

royal zenith
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nobody gives a shit arctic

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grow up

heavy iris
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not even running sundered firm makes me happy now

lofty depot
#

Skill issue

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Shut up deux

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Evoker rat fuck

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Is flavorpuss u or

royal zenith
#

DiD YoU Do YoUr OpEnEr RiGhT

lofty depot
#

Missing damage on starfalls get good moron

royal zenith
#

Ive given up on this tier tbf

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unironically

lofty depot
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I increase ur dam

heavy iris
#

ur gonna rip me i guarantee i fuck up so much or do wrong shit constantly

royal zenith
#

everybody does

lofty depot
#

Oh so now we're making excuses

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LINK THE LOG

wild dune
#

maybe thats why ur getting gapped

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hrm

dull dust
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artic is nice guy

lofty depot
#

I'm out here increasing boomkin propaganda

royal zenith
lofty depot
#

Small gap

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What we talking about

heavy iris
#

those guys did horrible

lofty depot
#

Not enough Starfall before incarn

lofty depot
#

Foe before incarn not during eclipse

heavy iris
#

this was really big gap

lofty depot
#

Sunfire silly

heavy iris
#

so there foe before eclipse, should be a second starfall before incarn and yeah that sunfire in incarn was bad

lofty depot
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I said foe before incarn

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Not before eclipse

heavy iris
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i see cause out of the 8 seconds it lasts by the time incarn hits there's only like 4 or so seconds remaining getting no value from incarn buff

tacit oriole
#

Would you want to spend all 3 buff spenders before incarn or naw?

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Buffed*

lofty depot
#
  • OB after surely
lofty depot
#

Preferably

#

I'm still testing some talents on overall and opener but it's kinda annoying

tacit oriole
#

I thought so.

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

be sure to at least spend 8 globals before you start doing damage

lofty depot
#

Depends on the pull

royal zenith
#

you know, this confirms even more

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that stacking starfalls need to go

lofty depot
#

Mmhm mmhm

royal zenith
#

back to starfall on a cooldown

lofty depot
#

Make it do like 10x dam

royal zenith
#

more like 6 or 7

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heh

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back to what it was

lofty depot
#

It was ass before

royal zenith
#

might also just be way more useful in raid

#

no, it wasn't

lofty depot
#

Surge on 8t

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Or w.e. the fck

snow elm
#

I want starfall to do all dmg instantly at once thanks

royal zenith
#

you need about 6 starfalls right now

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to get to levels of CN

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Im convinced, stacking needs to go

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👉 🚪

lofty depot
#

Deux on the train lfg

snow elm
#

I want lunar bolt to apply moonfire to all mobs hit

royal zenith
#

not even a bad idea

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unironically

lofty depot
#

That is kinda badass

royal zenith
#

but that would make the class fun to play

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and blizzard won't allow that

lofty depot
#

Mmhm mmhm

lofty depot
wild dune
lofty depot
#

I was thinking about this the other day

wild dune
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SEND IT

lofty depot
#

For all the times we prepped pulsar pre key.... And devourer gets a talent that starts their souls at 25/50

#

Can I get that dev on my spec

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Like holy fuck

wild dune
dense steeple
#

We have that same thing

#

Its called balance of power

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Or nature's balance or some shit

royal zenith
#

yeah but one starfall

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is not really the same as one devourer's genki dama

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is it

dense steeple
#

Our niche is mediocrity already said this

royal zenith
#

bring back power to our spenders

dense steeple
#

That would make us too good

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M+ ruined boomkin

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Shits been all down hill since legion

lofty depot
dense steeple
#

They're the spender

lofty depot
#

fury is the spender

dense steeple
#

Not in meta

lofty depot
#

ARE U DUMB

dense steeple
#

Which is the only thing that matters to them

brittle spire
#

hey boomies i got a quick easy question

i wanna play boomy but i really cba a playstyle where i have to kjeep swapping forms like going cat for speed, goinng bear for phases where bosses are doing big pulsatying damage

will i have to do that as boomy or can i stay boomkin form all the time (besides stampede roaring for like some mechanics where i have one lil task)

dense steeple
#

You can stay in boomkin for a majority of the time

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Def never sit bear

lofty depot
#

u can dot those while thye run

#

also didnt bark til way later

#

ur also not prepping to the next pull

wild dune
lofty depot
#

u all the way back here

lofty depot
wild dune
#

collapsing star is just full moon but better and fun

lofty depot
#

dotting too many shitters

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

theyre half hp and u just entered eclipse

dense steeple
#

everything about dev is more fun and better than boomy rn

wild dune
#

i wish it had like 1 or 2 more buttons

lofty depot
#

what the helly

wild dune
#

but the dopamine return of star

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

it is

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ur incarning on a starfire cast

#

is wrong

dense steeple
#

Didnt spend the free dam procs garf

lofty depot
#

yea but i already told him to fix that

dense steeple
#

I cant read

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Picture go brr

lofty depot
#

cant u meld the cat charge

dense steeple
#

Idk

lofty depot
#

i mena u bear'd it and took like 200k dam

dense steeple
#

Not elf

lofty depot
#

miss me bearing that outside of 20s

#

press bark silly

#

pack been in combat for like 12 seconds and just entered eclipse

#

???

wild dune
#

love arctic

lofty depot
#

what are we doing

wild dune
#

i think bro left man

wild dune
lofty depot
#

i wanna know

#

will not moveon

wild dune
#

i think boomie could be insane in keys ngl but rdruid overshadows

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and devourer/ret/uhdk/aug are all just a little too good

lofty depot
#

well he said he gets gapped by everyone and the spec isnst better

#

and were wrathing in lunar on fucking 10 targets

lean sun
#

does aug actually do dmg now or they just beefing the good specs up that much

dense steeple
#

Thats crazy work

#

Miss me hitting wrath in a key in aoe

#

Whether its a 2 or a 22

wild dune
lean sun
#

damn just better than devastation for keys?

wild dune
#

yes

lean sun
#

😮

royal zenith
#

it's way better actually

#

its basic attack already has more functionality than dev

lean sun
#

lol

dense steeple
#

Someone on my friendslist asked if he should buff boomy as aug and I told him yes

#

Im doing my part

royal zenith
#

yeah except

#

you dont really target buff people anymore

#

you can, but little effect

lofty depot
#

who wants to do lfr and give me tier

dense steeple
#

I will

#

Lemme login

lofty depot
#

@dull dust logon

dense steeple
#

Is lfr champ

dull dust
#

im at work

lofty depot
#

didnt ask

#

log on

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

you should try that some time arctic..

#

work..

vital hound
#

you should wait until after the weekend

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

lfr is veteran ye

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nm is champ

dense steeple
#

gross

#

alright inv

lofty depot
#

i just need 1p so i can cata 4p

dense steeple
#

im at the pc

lofty depot
#

then im farming

#

???

#

is this guy kiding or

normal pilot
#

that's a troll

dense steeple
#

it says right there

lofty depot
#

doesn he not know what ally is

fathom nebula
#

Are we shit in keys or am i shit?

lofty depot
royal zenith
#

no se habla

fathom nebula
#

je ne parle pas francais

dull dust
lofty depot
#

no francai, engli

dull dust
#

souce mon pecit

dense steeple
lofty depot
#

mmhm mmhm

dense steeple
#

i thought he meant queueing memes because dh can talk cross faction and shit

digital berry
#

Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?

dull dust
#

Hun hon hon

royal zenith
#

chancel es un baguette

dull dust
#

I live in a French town

royal zenith
#

🥖

dull dust
#

the extent of my French is very basic

glacial steeple
#

I live in your walls

dull dust
dull dust
normal pilot
#

hm

#

does this mean you dip your baguettes in maple syrup

glacial steeple
royal zenith
#

hm always spells new data mining

#

oh

#

ohhh... that is CURSED

dull dust
#

havnt tried that

#

probably is good tho

normal pilot
#

you can't dip something in poutine

#

silly european

lucid olive
#

wtf

normal pilot
#

you can use poutine as a topping, but it's not for dipping

royal zenith
#

gas's got a point

lucid olive
#

if not dip then why dip shaped

glacial steeple
#

I thought poutine was the entire dish

dull dust
#

bro that is

glacial steeple
#

It's just gravy

dull dust
#

like bargin bin poutine

dull dust
#

cheese curds are nasty

#

just use fuckin shredded

shy knot
#

Quick q: if I'm playing elune in m+ and I'm in incarn on a boss for example do I wrath or starfire?

lucid olive
#

nah with a girthy enough baguette you can dip anything

#

trust me i'm fat

glacial steeple
dull dust
#

same bro same

digital berry
#

i always imagined gamz are skinny and tall

lucid olive
#

thats crazy

dull dust
#

bro mains boomkin

digital berry
#

i main boomkin too

dull dust
royal zenith
#

it's the reason why Im retiring

#

doesnt fit the image

lucid olive
#

gg

royal zenith
#

need to embrace my inner devourer

lucid olive
#

they just stole moonkin spells..

glacial steeple
#

Not the most iconic moonkin spell though right?

dull dust
#

convoke?

glacial steeple
#

Symbiosis

dense steeple
#

i just got declined from a 10

#

the lead has 700 io

#

make it make sense

glacial steeple
#

Are you even trying? Why is your ilvl so low?

dull dust
#

people only want ret paladins in 10s

dense steeple
dull dust
glacial steeple
royal zenith
#

I would never invite a boomkin either

#

useless in 10's

glacial steeple
#

I'm in a RP guild to raid now

dull dust
royal zenith
#

Ill be stacking my groups with mm hunters and ret paladins

dull dust
#

ive been in some wild keys this week

vital hound
dull dust
#

where im doing both the other dps combined

#

lots of time to ramp

royal zenith
#

yeah 10's are demonic

#

cause too easy

vital hound
#

why pugging

#

just guild group

dull dust
#

no friends

royal zenith
#

(not a bad thing, them being easy)

red nymph
vital hound
#

find new guild

dull dust
#

soon

red nymph
#

what if guild friends?

vital hound
#

find new friends

dull dust
#

cant

#

its the curse of being too smart

vital hound
#

L

glacial steeple
dull dust
#

played ret for a month to flex on a guild ret with a ego

#

trashed him then never play again

glacial steeple
#

Just think now you could be doing 10s

dense steeple
#

gamz on liquid stream

dull dust
#

why

dense steeple
#

he donated money

#

tettles tried to gear mog him

dull dust
dense steeple
#

"show his ilvl if hes not 274 or higher hes bad"

#

they show and hes like "oh fuck hes higher than me"

dull dust
#

unlucky=bad

lucid olive
#

gg